April 3, 2025 • 16 mins
Pastor Steve examines Jeremiah's powerful metaphor about abandoned fountains and broken cisterns, revealing how this warning perfectly mirrors our modern spiritual crisis.
• Ancient Judah's double sin: abandoning God (the living water) while creating their own spiritual solutions (broken cisterns)
• The danger of making the church building or religious activities a substitute for genuine relationship with God
• Modern idols we purchase and prioritize instead of God: cars, boats, possessions, comfort
• How our desire for control leads us to create substitutes for God's lordship in our lives
• The risk of placing political leaders in "messianic" positions while ignoring our need for genuine repentance
• True Christianity evidenced not by religious activities but by the fruit of the Spirit
• The need for humility and confession to restore our relationship with God
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Thank you, reminder for us to recall in today's
divisive and dark culture, fromfoundational truths and
scripture to the hot topics oftoday's culture.
Allow this podcast to inspireand motivate you on your faith
journey.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, welcome back to the Main Thing podcast.
As always, pastor Steve is hereto discuss scripture and how
that pertains to our lives andhow we can keep the main thing
the main thing.
So, steve, I know last week youguys looked at Jeremiah and so
we're going to continue lookinga little bit at Jeremiah today.
I'm going to read out ofJeremiah, chapter 2 to start us
(00:54):
with, and then we'll get going.
So Jeremiah 2.13,.
He says For my people havecommitted a double evil.
They've abandoned me thefountain of living water and dug
cisterns for scripture.
But I think we need a littlecontext.
Talk a little bit, if you would, about the context of this
(01:16):
particular verse.
I know I've heard it preachedon before, I've heard people
reference it.
What's the context of whatJeremiah is saying here?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, there's imagery there that he's giving us what
we need to satisfy our souls.
God has provided, but webelieve and in their case Judah
believed they could satisfytheir own souls, take care of
their own needs, and so thecistern statement is imagery for
(01:46):
us to understand that God hasprovided for us, he has taken
care of us, he has brought usthrough, and then, routinely,
what we do is, when times aregood, we turn away from Him and
try to design our own fate, ifyou will.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
So it seems to.
In this particular context, thepeople are putting their trust
really in two things.
They're putting their trust inidols and false gods, but
they're also putting their trustin the temple.
Yes, now I know here.
If somebody asked me, is itimportant to go to church?
Of course I would sayabsolutely, you need to be in
church.
How do we, at least in this dayand age, how do we put our
(02:29):
trust in the church instead ofChrist?
Kind of like these Israelitesare putting their trust in the
temple and not that relationshipwith God.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Absolutely.
I think we have to rememberthat the church is where the
building is, where the churchgathers.
The church is the human beingsthat God has saved and brought
together.
The temple is a building.
It represents God and theworship of God, but it's not
(03:02):
literally God.
It's just a building, it's anedifice, and so I think they,
when they built the new temple,it became an object of worship.
I've seen this in my lifetimewhen churches have built new
sanctuaries, the sanctuarybecomes more important than the
mission, important than themission, and so I think we can
(03:29):
be just as guilty.
Today.
Being in church is what we needto be doing absolutely, but
being in church without worshipof the one true God is a total
waste of your day, and so Ithink Judah had a misplaced
loyalty, a misplaced affection,if you will.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
So another thing that went along with that is this
idea of false gods or idols.
What were some of the idols atthat time period that Jeremiah's
dealing with that people mighthave put their faith in?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Well, they often fashioned their own idols.
That's why the silversmithshated the Apostle Paul he was
getting into their pocket.
But even in the Old Testamentthey tend to make their own gods
.
It'd be the equivalent today oftaking a pottery class and
(04:21):
making your own little potteryitem and making that your god,
worshiping your god.
How they could do that afterthey had seen the power of God
exhibited is almost notunderstandable.
But they did and we do the samethings today.
(04:42):
Our gods are a little different.
We usually buy our gods today,but we absolutely worship.
You know, we buy automobiles.
If somebody scratches them, wewant to have a fistfight,
because the truth is thatautomobiles got such a presence
in our life, that automobile'sgot such a presence in our life,
(05:05):
such a high place in thepecking order, and that's just
one thing, you know.
It can be our boats, our camps.
I mean we make all kind ofthings idols in our lives today.
We're no different than theywere.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
What do you think the draw is to create these idols?
Why do we do it?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I think, because in our sin nature, we all want to
be in control of our own lives.
This is one of the hardestthings for people to come to
Christ.
If they really count the cost,as Jesus instructed, then
they're looking at thisunderstanding that if he is Lord
, he is master, at thisunderstanding that if he is Lord
(05:49):
he is master.
I'm not, and the average humanbeing struggles with this idea
that I would give God totalcontrol of my life and I
wouldn't be in control.
And I think theirs was probablythe same way.
In making their own gods andfollowing their own paths as
they saw fit to follow, theyfelt like they were in control
(06:10):
of their lives.
So I think that's what leadspeople to do that.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I think it's inevitable.
When you think you're incontrol of your life, when
you're focused on somethingthat's not eternal, you're
focused on something temporary,it's going to lead into a sin
pattern.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I'm guessing yes.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
So in Jeremiah's day you have people living in
unrepentant sin.
Obviously, we have that happentoday.
What's the road back from that?
In other words, talk aboutrepentance.
What does that look like?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Well, there's a couple of things, one of my
fears for America right now andI'll just be very honest I voted
for Donald Trump.
I think he was by far a betteroption than the direction we
were going, and I like a lot ofthe things he's doing.
He's Trump.
(07:02):
He's still saying things thatmake the world mad, but the
policies are important to me.
But one of the things thatreally concerns me is the
Christian community.
Somehow or another in theirminds, have almost made him a
(07:22):
quasi-messiah you know where.
All of a sudden, we're aChristian nation again overnight
because Trump went in the WhiteHouse, and this concerns me,
for us, greatly, because we'restill living in sin, we're still
flipping our finger at God,we're still doing the things we
want to do.
(07:42):
None of that's changed, and soI personally believe we're still
looking, as a country, at theimpending judgment of God upon
us.
He gave Judah every opportunityto straighten it out, and we've
had this opportunity fordecades now, and I just can't
(08:06):
help but believe that we'redrawing near to a judgment day
in America.
So that's one thing.
The other thing is that we tendto form our own idea of
Christianity.
It's not a biblicalChristianity.
(08:28):
We spend an hour in church onSunday.
You know, we sing the songs,some of us listen to the
preaching and we go out and ithas no effect or impact on our
lives whatsoever, and nothingever changes on our lives
whatsoever, and nothing everchanges.
And so we falsely convinceourselves that we're pleasing
(08:53):
God because we checked a box ortwo.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And so I'm guessing that when we do that, that's how
we end up putting a politicianin the place of God.
That's exactly right.
I know I saw in this particularelection cycle both sides were
convinced their person would fixeverything.
Yeah, and we have given them somuch power they don't have.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
It so reminds me.
You know Rich Mullins, who's anawesome guy.
He had another song that wasfairly obscure.
It was on one of his otheralbums, but it was called Hold
Me Jesus.
But there was a line in therethat has lived rent-free in my
head for many years.
It says I'd rather fight youfor something I don't really
want than take what you givethat I need.
And that line has always reallyspoken to me, because that
(09:38):
speaks to these false idols.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
That's absolutely what's going on in our nation.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
There's so many things we think will make us
happy, and they just are notgoing to do so.
So I want to read a few verseshere.
This is out of Jeremiah,chapter 7.
If you would, I'm going to readthe verse.
You just comment on it, okay.
Jeremiah 7, verse 4.
It says Do not trust deceitfulwords chanting this is the
(10:03):
temple of the Lord, the templeof the Lord.
The temple of the Lord.
Instead, if you really changeyour ways and your actions, if
you act justly toward oneanother, if you no longer
oppress the foreigner, thefatherless, the widow, and no
longer shed innocent blood inthis place or bringing harm on
yourselves, I'll allow you tolive in this place, the land I
gave your ancestors long ago.
(10:24):
What's going on there?
What are they doing?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Maybe a way to say it that we'll understand it today.
They were doing religion.
They were doing religion, theywere following religious rituals
and they were checking the boxfor the times of worship and
doing whatever it was the templewas requiring of them at that
time, but there was no personalinteraction with holy God.
(10:50):
It was hollow and I've oftensaid we talked about it a little
bit.
Last week's podcast, Chet,brought up that it seems when
we're hurting is when we turn toGod.
It seems when we're hurting iswhen we turn to God.
And the reality is, until we'rein a place where it's just us
(11:12):
and God, we tend not to getserious about our relationship
with holy God.
It's only when we findourselves in that place we can't
control that.
All of a sudden we startevaluating is this real?
Am I genuine?
(11:32):
Is God real?
Is he genuine?
Can I really know him?
And those are legitimatequestions.
But unfortunately, to reallyget down, as the old farmer says
, to the fodder, down, as theold farmer says to the fodder,
get the fodder down to the calf.
We usually have to be in pain tosearch those answers.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, absolutely.
I think that's one of thethings we don't do well as
humans is step back and examineourselves.
Yes yes, and really be honest.
Here's another one Jeremiah7.10.
Jeremiah asked the people.
He says then do you come andstand before me in this house,
call by my name and say we aredelivered, so we can continue
(12:13):
doing all these despicable acts?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Again, it's a picture of our world today.
We got all kind of peopleclaiming that God does this and
that and they have this and thatbecause they trust God.
And I think we have to becareful about those things and
make sure that something reallyis the blessing of God on our
(12:39):
life, that we're not falselyclaiming that.
I've told the story before ofmy pastor friend who was going
out to a picnic on an island ina boat with a church member and
he had preached on tithing thatmorning.
And the church member saidBrother Wayne, the Lord
(13:01):
convicted me this morning.
As soon as this boat's paid off, I'm going to start tithing and
wait.
He said that's wonderful, howmany payments you got left.
He said I just bought, you know.
So that's kind of where we arein our affection and dedication
to the Lord.
You know, we say we love Him,we say we believe, we say he's
(13:24):
our Savior, but we continue todo things that scream otherwise.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
You know I love that story.
You've told it obviously before, but I've always wondered did
that guy say that with astraight face?
Yeah, you just got to wonderhuh, yeah, it's funny, you know.
So that picture in Jeremiah.
I think it's a beautifulpicture.
It pictures people having thisclean, fresh water in perfectly
good containers and theydeliberately choose to pour it
out into something broken, soit'll just all spill away.
(13:52):
So how do we come back from thatin 2025, in a world that's very
unique to history, I think,this particular time period in
life, how do we change?
If we are pouring out thatliving water into the broken
cisterns, how do we change?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Well, for one, I'm not convinced.
A lot of people are going tochange.
We have created a verycomfortable Christian
environment in America.
But, furthermore, the only wayto change is to humble ourselves
, confess our sin and ask God toforgive us and to give us new
(14:38):
direction, his direction in theway we would live, the way we'd
conduct ourselves, the way we'ddo things.
You know.
So, until we're ready as achurch and I'm talking about the
corporate church to humbleourselves and to get on our
(14:59):
knees before holy God and to begfor forgiveness, I don't know
that much will change.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I know today a lot of the things we'll look at is
showing the marks of being aChristian.
A lot of those sometimes arekind of outward signs.
They listen to Christian radio.
They must be a Christian.
They go to church, they must bea Christian.
You know they dressconservatively.
They must be a Christian.
But what's the real marks ofthe cross, so to speak, in your
(15:27):
life?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Well, I think it's the fruit of the Spirit.
You know, when someone says,how can you know someone's
really a Christian?
You often hear well, nobody canreally know but God.
But I don't think the Bibleteaches that the fruit of the
Spirit is the evidence thatChrist is living in someone.
And so you know.
(15:50):
You see people who claim to beChristians they mean as a snake.
You see people who claim to beChristians and mean as a snake.
You see people who claim to beChristians and they steal in
from their employer every day.
And you can go on and on.
But the reality is those areelements in a person's life that
scream I'm not a follower.
(16:12):
I can't be a follower and livethis way, because if you are, we
know the Holy Spirit willconvict you and that won't last
long if you fall into that.
And so I believe, when we'reGod's children, there's certain
things Scripture tells usthat'll be evidenced in our life
(16:34):
, in our behavior, in ourthinking, in our speech, in the
things we do.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Well, guys, I appreciate you guys joining us
for Main Thing Podcast.
We will see you next time,thank you.
Thank you, reminder for us to recall in today's
divisive and dark culture, fromfoundational truths and
scripture to the hot topics oftoday's culture.
Allow this podcast to inspireand motivate you on your faith
journey.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, welcome back to the Main Thing podcast.
As always, pastor Steve is hereto discuss scripture and how
that pertains to our lives andhow we can keep the main thing
the main thing.
So, steve, I know last week youguys looked at Jeremiah and so
we're going to continue lookinga little bit at Jeremiah today.
I'm going to read out ofJeremiah, chapter 2 to start us
(00:54):
with, and then we'll get going.
So Jeremiah 2.13,.
He says For my people havecommitted a double evil.
They've abandoned me thefountain of living water and dug
cisterns for scripture.
But I think we need a littlecontext.
Talk a little bit, if you would, about the context of this
(01:16):
particular verse.
I know I've heard it preachedon before, I've heard people
reference it.
What's the context of whatJeremiah is saying here?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, there's imagery there that he's giving us what
we need to satisfy our souls.
God has provided, but webelieve and in their case Judah
believed they could satisfytheir own souls, take care of
their own needs, and so thecistern statement is imagery for
(01:46):
us to understand that God hasprovided for us, he has taken
care of us, he has brought usthrough, and then, routinely,
what we do is, when times aregood, we turn away from Him and
try to design our own fate, ifyou will.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
So it seems to.
In this particular context, thepeople are putting their trust
really in two things.
They're putting their trust inidols and false gods, but
they're also putting their trustin the temple.
Yes, now I know here.
If somebody asked me, is itimportant to go to church?
Of course I would sayabsolutely, you need to be in
church.
How do we, at least in this dayand age, how do we put our
(02:29):
trust in the church instead ofChrist?
Kind of like these Israelitesare putting their trust in the
temple and not that relationshipwith God.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Absolutely.
I think we have to rememberthat the church is where the
building is, where the churchgathers.
The church is the human beingsthat God has saved and brought
together.
The temple is a building.
It represents God and theworship of God, but it's not
(03:02):
literally God.
It's just a building, it's anedifice, and so I think they,
when they built the new temple,it became an object of worship.
I've seen this in my lifetimewhen churches have built new
sanctuaries, the sanctuarybecomes more important than the
mission, important than themission, and so I think we can
(03:29):
be just as guilty.
Today.
Being in church is what we needto be doing absolutely, but
being in church without worshipof the one true God is a total
waste of your day, and so Ithink Judah had a misplaced
loyalty, a misplaced affection,if you will.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
So another thing that went along with that is this
idea of false gods or idols.
What were some of the idols atthat time period that Jeremiah's
dealing with that people mighthave put their faith in?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Well, they often fashioned their own idols.
That's why the silversmithshated the Apostle Paul he was
getting into their pocket.
But even in the Old Testamentthey tend to make their own gods
.
It'd be the equivalent today oftaking a pottery class and
(04:21):
making your own little potteryitem and making that your god,
worshiping your god.
How they could do that afterthey had seen the power of God
exhibited is almost notunderstandable.
But they did and we do the samethings today.
(04:42):
Our gods are a little different.
We usually buy our gods today,but we absolutely worship.
You know, we buy automobiles.
If somebody scratches them, wewant to have a fistfight,
because the truth is thatautomobiles got such a presence
in our life, that automobile'sgot such a presence in our life,
(05:05):
such a high place in thepecking order, and that's just
one thing, you know.
It can be our boats, our camps.
I mean we make all kind ofthings idols in our lives today.
We're no different than theywere.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
What do you think the draw is to create these idols?
Why do we do it?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I think, because in our sin nature, we all want to
be in control of our own lives.
This is one of the hardestthings for people to come to
Christ.
If they really count the cost,as Jesus instructed, then
they're looking at thisunderstanding that if he is Lord
, he is master, at thisunderstanding that if he is Lord
(05:49):
he is master.
I'm not, and the average humanbeing struggles with this idea
that I would give God totalcontrol of my life and I
wouldn't be in control.
And I think theirs was probablythe same way.
In making their own gods andfollowing their own paths as
they saw fit to follow, theyfelt like they were in control
(06:10):
of their lives.
So I think that's what leadspeople to do that.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I think it's inevitable.
When you think you're incontrol of your life, when
you're focused on somethingthat's not eternal, you're
focused on something temporary,it's going to lead into a sin
pattern.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I'm guessing yes.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
So in Jeremiah's day you have people living in
unrepentant sin.
Obviously, we have that happentoday.
What's the road back from that?
In other words, talk aboutrepentance.
What does that look like?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Well, there's a couple of things, one of my
fears for America right now andI'll just be very honest I voted
for Donald Trump.
I think he was by far a betteroption than the direction we
were going, and I like a lot ofthe things he's doing.
He's Trump.
(07:02):
He's still saying things thatmake the world mad, but the
policies are important to me.
But one of the things thatreally concerns me is the
Christian community.
Somehow or another in theirminds, have almost made him a
(07:22):
quasi-messiah you know where.
All of a sudden, we're aChristian nation again overnight
because Trump went in the WhiteHouse, and this concerns me,
for us, greatly, because we'restill living in sin, we're still
flipping our finger at God,we're still doing the things we
want to do.
(07:42):
None of that's changed, and soI personally believe we're still
looking, as a country, at theimpending judgment of God upon
us.
He gave Judah every opportunityto straighten it out, and we've
had this opportunity fordecades now, and I just can't
(08:06):
help but believe that we'redrawing near to a judgment day
in America.
So that's one thing.
The other thing is that we tendto form our own idea of
Christianity.
It's not a biblicalChristianity.
(08:28):
We spend an hour in church onSunday.
You know, we sing the songs,some of us listen to the
preaching and we go out and ithas no effect or impact on our
lives whatsoever, and nothingever changes on our lives
whatsoever, and nothing everchanges.
And so we falsely convinceourselves that we're pleasing
(08:53):
God because we checked a box ortwo.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And so I'm guessing that when we do that, that's how
we end up putting a politicianin the place of God.
That's exactly right.
I know I saw in this particularelection cycle both sides were
convinced their person would fixeverything.
Yeah, and we have given them somuch power they don't have.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
It so reminds me.
You know Rich Mullins, who's anawesome guy.
He had another song that wasfairly obscure.
It was on one of his otheralbums, but it was called Hold
Me Jesus.
But there was a line in therethat has lived rent-free in my
head for many years.
It says I'd rather fight youfor something I don't really
want than take what you givethat I need.
And that line has always reallyspoken to me, because that
(09:38):
speaks to these false idols.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
That's absolutely what's going on in our nation.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
There's so many things we think will make us
happy, and they just are notgoing to do so.
So I want to read a few verseshere.
This is out of Jeremiah,chapter 7.
If you would, I'm going to readthe verse.
You just comment on it, okay.
Jeremiah 7, verse 4.
It says Do not trust deceitfulwords chanting this is the
(10:03):
temple of the Lord, the templeof the Lord.
The temple of the Lord.
Instead, if you really changeyour ways and your actions, if
you act justly toward oneanother, if you no longer
oppress the foreigner, thefatherless, the widow, and no
longer shed innocent blood inthis place or bringing harm on
yourselves, I'll allow you tolive in this place, the land I
gave your ancestors long ago.
(10:24):
What's going on there?
What are they doing?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Maybe a way to say it that we'll understand it today.
They were doing religion.
They were doing religion, theywere following religious rituals
and they were checking the boxfor the times of worship and
doing whatever it was the templewas requiring of them at that
time, but there was no personalinteraction with holy God.
(10:50):
It was hollow and I've oftensaid we talked about it a little
bit.
Last week's podcast, Chet,brought up that it seems when
we're hurting is when we turn toGod.
It seems when we're hurting iswhen we turn to God.
And the reality is, until we'rein a place where it's just us
(11:12):
and God, we tend not to getserious about our relationship
with holy God.
It's only when we findourselves in that place we can't
control that.
All of a sudden we startevaluating is this real?
Am I genuine?
(11:32):
Is God real?
Is he genuine?
Can I really know him?
And those are legitimatequestions.
But unfortunately, to reallyget down, as the old farmer says
, to the fodder, down, as theold farmer says to the fodder,
get the fodder down to the calf.
We usually have to be in pain tosearch those answers.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, absolutely.
I think that's one of thethings we don't do well as
humans is step back and examineourselves.
Yes yes, and really be honest.
Here's another one Jeremiah7.10.
Jeremiah asked the people.
He says then do you come andstand before me in this house,
call by my name and say we aredelivered, so we can continue
(12:13):
doing all these despicable acts?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Again, it's a picture of our world today.
We got all kind of peopleclaiming that God does this and
that and they have this and thatbecause they trust God.
And I think we have to becareful about those things and
make sure that something reallyis the blessing of God on our
(12:39):
life, that we're not falselyclaiming that.
I've told the story before ofmy pastor friend who was going
out to a picnic on an island ina boat with a church member and
he had preached on tithing thatmorning.
And the church member saidBrother Wayne, the Lord
(13:01):
convicted me this morning.
As soon as this boat's paid off, I'm going to start tithing and
wait.
He said that's wonderful, howmany payments you got left.
He said I just bought, you know.
So that's kind of where we arein our affection and dedication
to the Lord.
You know, we say we love Him,we say we believe, we say he's
(13:24):
our Savior, but we continue todo things that scream otherwise.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
You know I love that story.
You've told it obviously before, but I've always wondered did
that guy say that with astraight face?
Yeah, you just got to wonderhuh, yeah, it's funny, you know.
So that picture in Jeremiah.
I think it's a beautifulpicture.
It pictures people having thisclean, fresh water in perfectly
good containers and theydeliberately choose to pour it
out into something broken, soit'll just all spill away.
(13:52):
So how do we come back from thatin 2025, in a world that's very
unique to history, I think,this particular time period in
life, how do we change?
If we are pouring out thatliving water into the broken
cisterns, how do we change?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Well, for one, I'm not convinced.
A lot of people are going tochange.
We have created a verycomfortable Christian
environment in America.
But, furthermore, the only wayto change is to humble ourselves
, confess our sin and ask God toforgive us and to give us new
(14:38):
direction, his direction in theway we would live, the way we'd
conduct ourselves, the way we'ddo things.
You know.
So, until we're ready as achurch and I'm talking about the
corporate church to humbleourselves and to get on our
(14:59):
knees before holy God and to begfor forgiveness, I don't know
that much will change.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I know today a lot of the things we'll look at is
showing the marks of being aChristian.
A lot of those sometimes arekind of outward signs.
They listen to Christian radio.
They must be a Christian.
They go to church, they must bea Christian.
You know they dressconservatively.
They must be a Christian.
But what's the real marks ofthe cross, so to speak, in your
(15:27):
life?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Well, I think it's the fruit of the Spirit.
You know, when someone says,how can you know someone's
really a Christian?
You often hear well, nobody canreally know but God.
But I don't think the Bibleteaches that the fruit of the
Spirit is the evidence thatChrist is living in someone.
And so you know.
(15:50):
You see people who claim to beChristians they mean as a snake.
You see people who claim to beChristians and mean as a snake.
You see people who claim to beChristians and they steal in
from their employer every day.
And you can go on and on.
But the reality is those areelements in a person's life that
scream I'm not a follower.
(16:12):
I can't be a follower and livethis way, because if you are, we
know the Holy Spirit willconvict you and that won't last
long if you fall into that.
And so I believe, when we'reGod's children, there's certain
things Scripture tells usthat'll be evidenced in our life
(16:34):
, in our behavior, in ourthinking, in our speech, in the
things we do.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Well, guys, I appreciate you guys joining us
for Main Thing Podcast.
We will see you next time,thank you.
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