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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
Welcome to Make It to Wednesday, the podcast that
gets you through the week withlaughs, real talk, and all the
Gemini energy you didn't knowyou needed.
We are your hosts, Carly andCarla, two best friends born a
week apart, but somehow totalopposites.
Here we dive into life's bigquestions, small wins, and messy
moments.
Think dating, marriage, family,pop culture, and everything in

(00:23):
between.
Whether you're thriving or justsurviving, we're here to remind
you you're not alone.
So grab your coffee, your wine,or whatever gets you through,
and let's make it to Wednesdaytogether.
Welcome back to Make It toWednesday, a hump day podcast.
We are your show hosts.
I'm Carla.
And I'm Carly, and this isepisode 50.
The big five-oh.

SPEAKER_00 (00:43):
And we even brought balloons.
Look at it.
We're so festive today.

SPEAKER_01 (00:48):
So festive.

SPEAKER_00 (00:49):
It's a celebratory thing.
Yeah, but we thought thoseballoons would be bigger, to be
honest.

SPEAKER_01 (00:53):
Yeah, we did.
We thought they'd be like theones from 26.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (00:57):
Which are like this tall.
Turns out, they're this.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01):
I was so like, we can't get 40-inch balloons that
I didn't look at the size ofthese ones.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06):
In our head, these were like 25 inches.
But they weren't.
They were 14.
Turns out we don't know whatinches look like.
This big.
This big.
It's all the same.
Wow.
Depending on who you ask.
No comments.
No comments.
Uh no comment.
It's episode 50.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22):
Episode 50.
I brought a fact.
Oh.
It is crazy to think about.
Um, I brought a fact from the1950s.
Okay.
So Silly Putty.
Do you remember Silly Putty thatcame in like the egg?
Yeah.
That is still being producedtoday under like Crayola,
whatever.
Um, Silly Putty first sold onshelves in the 1950s.
Interesting.

(01:42):
It was like, I I guessapparently it was an accidental
creation.
Accident.

SPEAKER_00 (01:48):
Like, what does that mean?

SPEAKER_01 (01:49):
In 1943, they were trying to figure out a way to
make like a rubber substitutefor World War II.
I didn't really like read intothe why.
Okay.
And it was invented in 43 forthat, but I think it didn't go
anywhere.
And then someone like rebrandedit and was able to get it on
shelves and sold it.
For children now.

SPEAKER_00 (02:08):
Yeah.
Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 (02:09):
Yeah, because they realized it could be like
flexible and malleable and allthe things.
And like it was essentially afidget toy before fidget toys
were fidget toys.

SPEAKER_00 (02:17):
I guess.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I guess that's fair.
It's like the slime of I guessit is technically slime.
It is a version of slime.
Yeah.
Interesting.
I know.
Um.
Did you read other facts fromthe 1950s?
Um, a few other ones.
So I had a guest over on sorry.
Steve number two came over onwhen Wednesday.

(02:39):
Someday last week.
I don't remember what day itwas.
This week.
One was reading up on facts fromthe 1950s, and he wanted me to
ask you a question.

SPEAKER_01 (02:45):
Alright, Steve, what's your question?

SPEAKER_00 (02:47):
He wanted to know if you felt like the facts that you
read about the 1950s really umsignify the turn of the century.
No.
Okay.
She said no, Steve.
I don't know.
I don't even know what's I don'tknow what he read to like I
don't know.
Huh.
I have no idea.

SPEAKER_01 (03:06):
I mean, I just brought a fact today for the
1950s.

SPEAKER_00 (03:09):
Sure, and I don't I don't feel like that fact really
like that one didn't changeanything.

SPEAKER_01 (03:13):
Um so no, no, Steve.
Um, the 1950s, I don't feel likeanything significant has been
brought to the table.

SPEAKER_00 (03:21):
Maybe she just saw yeah, maybe she just saw like a
different set of facts than yousaw.
I I'm interested inunderstanding.
Like, he didn't say more aboutit.
I told him not to tell me thefacts.
So I told I like to besurprised.
Oh, okay.
So I have no idea what he saw.

SPEAKER_01 (03:33):
Yeah, I mean, sure, yes, there's a turn of the
century, but like I'm also veryI'm I'm like now I'm curious
what he saw.

SPEAKER_00 (03:40):
I know.
I'm not sure he'll tell me likewhen I see him.

SPEAKER_01 (03:42):
I mean, it was the stuff like we already talked
about the things leading up towith war, with baby boomers,
with all that.
Like yeah, I guess in that senseit was the turn of the century.

SPEAKER_00 (03:51):
The turn of the century.

SPEAKER_01 (03:52):
Yeah.
Oh sorry, Steve.
That's an expression I've neverthought much about either.
Turn of the century.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (03:58):
When do you feel like do you feel like you've
lived through the turn of thecentury?
Like No.
Oh, interesting.
No.

SPEAKER_01 (04:04):
Not even when two through some things.
Yeah, I wouldn't call that theturn of the century.
Why?
Because what century are wetalking about?
The 1900s or like the 2000s?

SPEAKER_00 (04:14):
Like within that cluster, I don't think it's
defined either of them yet.
You don't think you've livedthrough the turn of what do you
mean?
Of a century?
Sure.
Not the century.

SPEAKER_01 (04:27):
Like, how are we categorizing these?

SPEAKER_00 (04:29):
Like nobody's living through the turn of more more
than one century.
That's true.
You know, that's true.
We're all living through theturn of a century.
I don't know.
Just curious.
That's a good good question,though.
That's a good phrase to the turnof a century.
Yeah.
That feels that feels important.
You know what I mean?
Like important.
Feels like it really meanssomething, even though it

(04:51):
doesn't actually mean anything.
It always makes me think aboutfarming, like turning over the
fields and crops.
Like you have to go through somestuff and like turn things over
to get it to like bloom again.
Oh, that's really sweet.
I would have never once thoughtabout that.
No.
Do you feel like that's what theturn of a century is?
Like you have to go through someshit to that's how I'm choosing
to look at it.
Okay.
That could be.
That's fair.

(05:11):
I really don't.
I really don't know.
There's nothing evidence backedhere.
What do you mean?
At every turn of the century,like something, something I
won't say drastic, but somethinghappens.
Something happens to flipthings.
Normally the economy.
Yeah.
That's essentially that's foralmost every single time what it
is.
Yeah.
That's always the economy.
Fair, fair, fair.

(05:31):
Yikes.
But happy 50th episode car.
Happy 50th episode car.
I don't think we'd get this far.
You didn't?

SPEAKER_01 (05:38):
No, I I had no opinion on where it was gonna go
when it started.
I just wanted, I knew we wantedto do it.
I never thought, oh, we have tomake it to episode 50 or we have
to make it to episode 100.

SPEAKER_00 (05:51):
Like it's just always been like a little treat
to make it to the next episode.
Do you feel like now that we'vemade it to 50, we have to make
it to 100 now?
Absolutely.
You do.
Like you feel like we still likehave to like now we're gonna
turn of the century.
We have to make it to a centurynow.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, yes.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Happy 50th.
Happy 50th, everybody.
Thanks for being here for 50episodes.

(06:12):
Yes.
That's crazy.
It is.
Like the more I think about it,that's like a lot.

SPEAKER_01 (06:16):
It it is a lot.
And I keep now calling it ourafter dark episode.
Yeah.
Guys.

SPEAKER_00 (06:22):
Welcome for joining us, or welcome to joining us.
Um te drinking.
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
Some more than Actually, I don'tthink that's true.
I don't think that's true.
Probably about the same amount.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's been a fair amount.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It has been a fair amount.

(06:43):
We are still working on a bottleof vodkila.
Yeah.
That was brought to my home bysomeone uh many moons ago.
And it has traveled with me toand from festivities and is
still like I got here and therewas still half a bottle left.
Like you say it's been travelingwith you, but like how can that
be?

SPEAKER_01 (07:02):
I'm the only one drinking it when it traveled.

SPEAKER_00 (07:04):
Apparently, and you're drinking sips at one
time.

SPEAKER_01 (07:07):
Sips.
I made a massive drink with it.
You say that was like how canthat be true?
How can that be true?
I did.

SPEAKER_00 (07:12):
I don't know.
We're not working it hardenough.
So we did shots of Aquilatonight.
Two.
More than one, more than oneshot.
Technically, one was a doubleand the other was a regular, so
we did three.
And we also did like a winetasting.
Mm-hmm.
Crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (07:25):
With some of the stuff that he just brought out.
What?

SPEAKER_00 (07:28):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (07:29):
What do you mean?
Um, the server brought out.
Oh, he brought like threesamples at all.
We've been drinking.

SPEAKER_00 (07:34):
We've been drinking.
But it's episode 50, so we'regonna drink more because we're
doing truth or drink today.

SPEAKER_01 (07:38):
We are doing truth or drink today, and I'm just
gonna like them open.

SPEAKER_00 (07:42):
We're gonna crack yours too.
Ready?
Ready?
One, two, three.
I'd already opened mine, guys.
I'm sorry.
She told me too late that wewere gonna do them on camera, so
it is what it is.
But I'm drinking my usual umLucky One lemonade, a blueberry
lemonade.
And this is still one from thesummer, isn't it?
Or is this the last time youcame over?
The blueberry gin lemonade.

(08:03):
Oh my god, I have no clue.
Did you like yours?
Yeah, I love them.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Okay, yeah.
Oh, it's so sweet.
Uh-oh.
Yikes.
Oh, I chose poorly.
I chose poorly.
No.
Whew! Anyways.
Um yeah.
We're doing truth or drink niceday.
We're doing truth or drink.

(08:23):
We were sports moms today.
Sport sports.
I was sport auntie today.

SPEAKER_01 (08:27):
Auntie.
I love it.

SPEAKER_00 (08:28):
Did you say auntie or auntie?

SPEAKER_01 (08:30):
Auntie.
I say auntie.
Well, I don't say either, to befair.
I say aunt.

unknown (08:34):
That's fair.

SPEAKER_00 (08:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Did you ever say auntie at anypoint?
No.
Never.
I think I just tried it a minuteago and it didn't feel like it.
For the first time?
Yep.
Oh, is that cultural?
Probably.
Oh, I didn't realize that.
Yeah.
Never want to realize that.
I say Auntie Paula.
Oh, Duncan.
Auntie Bridget, yeah.
Auntie Patrice.
Yeah.
I've always said auntie.
That's a really true.
Yeah.
No.
I don't think it's culturalthough, because we say my friend

(08:55):
Andrea is Auntie Vicky.
Huh.
Yeah.
Andrea that I met.
Yeah.
Oh.
It's Auntie Vicky.
Auntie.
Where'd you pick that up, girl?
Like, where'd you get that?
And she's always done it sinceI've known that.
It's just a little bit.
Maybe it's a regional thing.
Maybe it's regional.
Yeah.
Where are you from?
And what do you call your aunt?
Is it if you're in Michigan, isit auntie or aunt?

(09:18):
Or aunt.
Or aunt.
Auntie?
Aunt Auntie.
My auntie.
Aunt Lori.
You say Aunt Lori.
No, I don't.
Aunt Lori.
Aunt.
Aunt Laurie.
Now all I can see is a littleaunt.
Totally.
I was thinking the same thing.
Oh my gosh.
Sympathical.
All right.
We are here.

SPEAKER_01 (09:35):
We are here.
It is been a nice day.
It is episode 50.
We have been out doing thesports things, the wine tasting
things, the hanging out things.
It's been really lovely.

SPEAKER_00 (09:47):
Yeah, I've enjoyed it.
I have two.
Um, we ran out of listen bitchcards.
Are we just gonna go right tointo that?
We're not gonna do like ourwe're gonna do our stuff.
I'm just saying it's staring atme because it's two-sided, and
now like it's hard.
I'm I'm not, but like we'regonna really be up to it.
So I was like, Oh, you had itcovered.
Yeah, let me just I was tryingto like cover it up so we don't
like read it.

(10:07):
Smart, so I don't read it.
You already read it.
No, I didn't.
I just saw the word love.
I saw the word love as well.
Yikes.
Um I do have a text message andit's driving me crazy.
Is it driving me nuts?
I see it.
Can you check in on that?
No, I might pull up the laptopthough.
Um, okay.
Happy and crappy.
Happy crappy.
Do you want me to go first?

(10:28):
You want to go first?
I can go first.
Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 (10:29):
Yeah.
I just feel like um this week Ihad a really good week at home
with not at home, but like ourtime at home with the kids was
really good this week.

SPEAKER_00 (10:39):
Love.

SPEAKER_01 (10:40):
Yeah.
We for the most part didn't dotablets and like did family time
and activities and stuff, butthe crappy for me was that I
didn't feel good a lot of thisweek.
And therefore, neurovirus or Idon't know.
I uh it was mostly like I feellike in my head, like migraine

(11:00):
and congestive and all of that.

SPEAKER_00 (11:02):
Like you sick?
Like, I don't know.
I'm exhausted.
No.
Uh okay.
You said maybe flu.
Maybe flu.
I'd like to not get the flubefore.
I got the flu shot, so oh, soyou did get the flu.
I believe that's what I said,isn't it?
Interesting.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (11:22):
So yeah, I didn't feel great, you know, on my day
off.
At least it was on my day offand not a work day.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (11:28):
And I could just relax and sleep and all the
things, but um, still had theboys this week and still tried
to navigate like beingexhausted.
And being a parent.
Mm-hmm.
It just sucks because like youjust like don't get a break.
Like, what do you do?
My break comes when like on ouroff week.
So then I'm just gonna go.
Sure, sorry, that's not my onweek.
But like, no, but like what doyou do when you're on?

(11:48):
Because you don't get a breakwhen you're on.
Like, if you get sick and godown, just like have to deal
with it.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (11:54):
Ew.
Well, that one night I had amigraine and I came home and I
said, Boys, you can play in thetablet for an hour.
I gotta shut my eyes.
Two hours later, when my husbandwalks in the door, I'm waking up
and I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm apiece of shit.
Why?
I just felt so lazy.
He said it was fine.
Obviously, it's fine.
Like, I just felt bad.

SPEAKER_00 (12:14):
I felt bad.
I'm sure they don't care.
The kids did not care.

SPEAKER_01 (12:17):
Yeah, I'm sure they didn't realize it was more than
and after like he got home, westarted dinner and then we did
some family activities, so itwas fine.

SPEAKER_00 (12:26):
Like, I still got time with them.
I promise you.
Yeah.
If I'm if I'm them, I'm notwaking up either.
Yeah.
Like I'm staying on my tablet.
Yeah.
And they did fight.
100%.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (12:36):
Yep.
They weren't fighting when Iwoke up, nothing.
So it was a good week.

SPEAKER_00 (12:40):
Good.
I'm glad.
Yeah.
Okay.
Love that.
How was yours?
Um my week was relatively goodas well, I would say.
Yeah?
Yeah.
I'm trying to think like yeah.
It was pretty busy, but like notin a bad way.
Mostly good things.
I had something every night thisweek.
Which like at this point is tobe expected.
Is the norm.

(13:00):
Yeah.
You know, as a single girl, youlive in life in the big city.

unknown (13:06):
I can't.

SPEAKER_00 (13:08):
The biggest rapid.
Like it's like not.
Uh-huh.
Like biggest around here, sure.
Okay, sure.
Yeah.
Bigger than not bigger thanDetroit, but like I guess it's
like not around here.
Yeah.
Also, would you say, like, I'mnot wrong.
I we live in southern Michigan,right?
We live in West Michigan.
Sure, but like also SouthMichigan.

(13:28):
No.
Why not?
This is not.
Tell me why.
We're closer to mid-Michiganthan we are to South.
But if if up north, if if the UPis northern Michigan, how is
this not South Michigan?

SPEAKER_01 (13:40):
Oh.
I see what you're saying.
We live in the lower peninsula.

SPEAKER_00 (13:45):
It's also called South Michigan.
How is it not?
It's just not.
No, it is the upper peninsula.
Sure.
And then there's the lowerpeninsula.
But if you call it northernMichigan, why is this not
southern Northern Michigan couldbe anywhere to the north.
We were up.
How is this not anywhere to thesouth?
Just asking.
You know what?
I don't care enough about thisargument.

(14:08):
Yes, we are southern fuckingMichigan.
Thank you so much.
You're welcome.
Um, but yeah, my week was reallygood.
I should that's not true.
It was fine.
It was fine.
It was good for the most part.
Um minor annoyances here andthere, but like good dates.
Minor annoyances.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But what do you consider a minorannoyance?

(14:30):
Um please describe.
I really like don't want to sayit because I No, no, I need to
know.
Just like irritating things thathappened this week.
Um, oh for example uh let methink of something that doesn't
involve a specific like specificpeople.
Is it me?
No.
My headphones broke this week.

(14:52):
Oh, that's a minor annoyance.
I actually would call it a majorannoyance.
Which headphones?
My big ones.
Like the ones that look likethis.
Oh.
That left side of it snapped.
I said, God.
How long have you had those?
A year.
They should not have broken.
I mean, the same exact thing.
The exact same thing happenedlast year.
Are you serious?
By almost to the day.

(15:13):
Almost to the day.
Like my ex my insurance runs outDecember 9th.
Almost to the full day.
Isn't that crazy?
So I will be in back at Best Buytomorrow.
Wow.

unknown (15:24):
Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_00 (15:25):
Fix this please.
Thank you so much.
I mean I have Apple Care, solike it's fine, but like.
Wow.
Do you pay for Apple Care by theway?
No.
For nothing?
Like not even your phone?
No.
What it what all does Apple carecover?
Your phone.
Oh, no, I don't mean that.
I mean, like I my my phone, mymy beats pros, like my my pros
and my like Studio Pros.
Oh, it covers all that?

(15:46):
If you pay for it, yeah.
Oh, that's nice.
But if you don't pay for it, itcovers.
No, nothing.
Wow.
So you don't have insurance onyour devices?
Do people do you guys have alike Apple Care?
Some people have like theprotection, whatever.
That's what it is.
The$19 a month, whatever.
I mean, it's like$13, but sure.
Oh, I don't know.
But still, but like my mom andJeff just got it when they got

(16:06):
their new phones just for thefirst month, but no.
Interesting.
I don't carry it after the firstmonth.
So if your phone breaks, you'rejust like shit out of luck.
I guess.
Okay, fair enough.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Yeah, that is kind of crazy,huh?
I mean, your phone's neverbroken, right?
I mean, why would we say thatout loud now?
Neither had Jeff's, and thenThat's fair.
Yeah.
Also valid.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.

(16:26):
I don't know.
Just curious.
But that was like a minorannoyance thing that happened
yesterday.
Okay.
Oh, this was just yesterday.
Maybe Friday.
A Thursday.
It was Thursday before ourholiday party.
And I was like, okay.
I forgot about your work'sholiday party.
Yeah.
You went?
I did go.
I know I said I wasn't gonna go,but I did go.
And it was fine.
Did you take anybody?
What?

(16:46):
I don't know.
A date?
A date?
Yeah, did you take anybody?
Imagine?
No, it wasn't like that.
It was like a hour.
I did have a date afterwards.
Um I was like really close tobailing on.
Really?
But you went?
Well, I was I wasn't gonna go,and I was telling Sue, I was
like, should I just like bail?
And she was like, No, that's sorude.

(17:07):
And then she literally gets up,asks the entire group.
She's like, Carla has a date in30 minutes.
Is it rude to bail?
And then everybody was like,Yeah, it would be rude.
I'm like She asked everybody?
Yeah, which is like who waseverybody?
Just like all the board membersthat were there.
It's not that crazy.
Board members.
I'd already asked them like ifit would be like I'd already

(17:27):
asked them like a prettyinvasive question, so like it's
like not that crazy.
But like I I think what did Iask?
I asked them if it was like,should it be expected as like if
they're in um in a relationshipthat they as men, if they if
they as men or if their husbandsshould be expected to wipe their
car off of if there's no and oneman was like, no.

(17:50):
I said, okay.
You must not be in love, sir.
Yeah, lucky girl you got there.
I mean, like whatever.
I don't want to Jason wouldactually like flip his shit.
Like why he thinks he should donice things and like does them.
Most and that's really lovely.
I think a lot of a lot of themen uh actually I won't say

(18:12):
this.
I would say depending on whatthe demographic where uh group
you were from, yeah, was thelike it was that's the answer
you got.
Like so like um thesuperintendent of the GRPS is a
woman of color.
Yeah.
Her husband, she like wouldn'teven like her husband wouldn't
even dream of not wiping her caroff.

(18:33):
Yeah.
Same as the other people ofcolor on the board.
Now, the people that maybe areof the less melanated versions
of skin tone.
The white man.
Okay, sure.
Um, they were like, no, I don'tI usually don't wipe off my
skin.
Really?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (18:48):
It was really an interesting Jason would not be
part of the sure.

unknown (18:53):
Sure.

SPEAKER_00 (18:54):
Part of that model.
Yeah.
I mean, it I don't think it justwas an interesting thing to
note.
Yeah.
They're also there was an age,like the f the older people,
there was these are mostly theolder people, I would say, as
well.
Which is interesting to note aswell.
Because where did chivalry go?
Where did chivalry go?
I don't know.
Just something to note.
Yeah.
I'm just curious.

(19:14):
Like, so you think that your manshould I think that I don't mind
if he wipes it off.
And so if I don't mind, Iprobably like it.
Yeah.
Would you be upset if he didn't?
No, I wouldn't be upset if hedidn't.
But also we've worked reallyhard to not put ourselves in
positions where we have to wipeour car off either.
Of course.

(19:35):
Sure.
If you we clean that garage outso we can both park in the
garage.
Let's take the garage out of it.
Okay, garage is gone.
We park outside.
Yes.
We leave similar time.
He leaves first.
Okay.
And you like you, he leaves likean hour before you do.

(19:56):
Okay.
And you go outside and your caris like not wiped off.

unknown (19:59):
Don't

SPEAKER_00 (20:00):
Even come home.
Is that I mean you already wipeyourself, you got buttoned up,
you put your gloves on, you didall the things.
You know I'm rushing to get outthe door because that's fair.
Life of mom, you know.
Does it make a difference if hewas running late or not?
Like, like what of what is likebarely.
It barely like get up early, youknow.
That's the get up earlier.

SPEAKER_01 (20:20):
I don't know.
I'd be better prepared.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (20:22):
Interesting.
Yeah.
What if he didn't have to wipehis car off?
Like, what if he got home afterthe snow had stopped?
Like you'd been home all day, sothis your car's covered.
Covered in snow, but his is notcovered, so he didn't have to
wipe his off.
Then I wouldn't be that mad athim.
Yeah, that's fair.
Yeah, okay.
I don't see any reason to be.
Okay.
Yeah.
Just kidding.
But if he's out there, like inhis attire, whatever that is,
wiping shit down.

(20:42):
And he just like sees your caras well, and he's like, she got
it.
Yeah, no.
No, he better.
That's fair.
I don't know.
I've always grown up that likelike my like I I always think
like my brother would do it.
Yeah.
My brother doesn't even drive,but he would he would do it.
That's the question.
Without question, yeah.
Yeah.
So like I'm like, huh.
Maybe my maybe my maybe my dadand my brother set the standard

(21:05):
too high.
No.
I don't think so either, but I'mjust curious.
No.
I don't know where we came wherewe got here from, but I don't
know either, but I like it.
Also say, I had a pretty goodweek.
Yeah.
My date went well after thatholiday party.
Good.
New you said first date or not?
Yeah, he's the one who said Ihad masculine energy.

unknown (21:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (21:27):
But we still liked him.
Here's what it is.
He explained it.
I shouldn't have said that.
I don't know why I said that onthe podcast, because now that
sounds crazy.
You're giving daddy vibes.
He didn't say that specifically.

SPEAKER_01 (21:39):
Masculine energy.

SPEAKER_00 (21:41):
How else are you gonna take that?
Like that's how I took it aslike I'm giving I I I radiate
man.
Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (21:48):
I don't know how to don't find me attractive.

SPEAKER_00 (21:50):
Yeah.
Yep.
That's not how he meant it.
He meant it is that I'm anindependent woman who don't need
no man, which like and he thinkstraditionally that's a masculine
masculine quality.
Which is crazy.
But wow, that's insane to say.
Yeah.
But you had a nice time anyways.
Yeah.
Otherwise it was totally fine.
Have you messaged since the day?
We've been texting all day.
Okay.
Yeah.
Cute.
Sure.

(22:10):
And you might go out again.
Okay.
I don't know.
I've there's other things thatI'm a little like.
Were there red flags?
Um I don't know.
There were flags.
Um I don't Yeah, there wereflags.
Okay.
Cautionary ones.
I don't know if the I don't knowif I'm just being crazy or not.
You know?

(22:30):
Uh would you want to talk aboutany of them?
No, I mean sure.
Uh he like he was he's newlysingle.
Not newly single.
He was in a relationship upuntil August.
So it's not like newly single,but like Newly single.
Recently single.
Long relationship.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I just like don't feel likethat's enough time.
It's really not.
And I told him like, I'm nottrying to be a rebound.

(22:51):
He said, I don't feel like Ineed a rebound.
And I even asked him like onthe.
Yep.
A few times.
Yep.
I asked him like while we werethere.
I'm just like, is this likeawkward for you to be here?
He's like, I haven't been on afirst date in a really long
time.
And I was like, that's if you'rehis first first date in a long
time in eight years.
Eight years.
Holy shit, what pressure.

(23:12):
I said that same thing.
He's like, there is no pressure.
I was like, that's fair becauseI'm gonna go into this.
There wasn't, and then he calledyou masculine.
Well, now, who's paying for thisdate now?
Am I expected to pay for this?
Or should I go get my date?
Like, I don't Yeah.
How awful.
Totally.
I would die right there.

(23:33):
Yes.
Have you ever felt like less ofa lady?
You know what I mean?
Just walk out.
I was wearing such a like I waswearing like heel, like heeled
boots and like a skirt.
Yeah.
Tights.
I'll just drive myself home now.
I did drive myself home to befair.
Yep.
And you walked me to my car, sooh, okay.
Who's masculine now?

(23:53):
I I still drove myself home, soI guess I don't really know.
I don't know.
Anyways.
I'm just like talking.
It's so phenomenal.
This is our ketchup time.
It's episode 50.

SPEAKER_01 (24:04):
We're having fun.
Um, okay.
So we talked about how we'reswitching up our cards from
listen bitch to what we'recalling the awesome cards.

SPEAKER_00 (24:13):
Now, what we haven't figured out about the awesome
cards yet is that they have twosides.
Yeah.
I do feel like because we'vealready read this one, we have
to read this one now.
Like we now that now that we'veseen the word love.
Yeah, let's just read it.
Do we just read both of them,though?
Do we read one?
I think we just read the one.
I think we read both.
Why?
Not at the same time.
One is during start and one toclose.

(24:33):
Yeah.
Okay, let's try it.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (24:35):
Let's try it.
Yeah?
Okay.
So I'm gonna read the one that'sfacing up right now.
Okay.
Okay.
So these are awesome cardsbecause behind us, you'll see I
redecorated once again.

SPEAKER_00 (24:45):
Can you yeah.
If you go, if you'll recallepisode maybe like two.
One of the things that I said,well, one of the reasons I said
I don't think I could live withCarly is because she redecorates
her house so often.
And if you'll see there was anew table behind us, because
Carly has again redecorated thepodcast space, which is not a
bad thing.

SPEAKER_01 (25:02):
It's fine.
This was an extra table.
It holds our podcast shit now.
Of course.
We can hang shit above it.

SPEAKER_00 (25:06):
It's good.
Yeah, it's not a complaint.
Just to be clear.

SPEAKER_01 (25:09):
But I move furniture again.
So I put the deck of cards backthere.
And what does it say?
Don't be afraid to be amazing.
So now they're just amazingcards.

SPEAKER_00 (25:17):
Yeah.
And there's an author in there,so I don't know who there's a
lot of cards.
There is an author.
Something Andy.
Emily?
What?
How did you say Emily?
I saw Andy.
Funny.
I think it could be Andy.
My eyesight is really poor.
Must be nice.

unknown (25:30):
Shut up.

SPEAKER_00 (25:30):
I really must be nice.
You're gonna get glasses, youthink?
I'm so jealous.

SPEAKER_01 (25:34):
I don't want glasses.
I probably need some glasses.
Yeah.
One day.
One day.
Alright.
Awesome card.
The first one ever.
Okay.
Episode 50 says the highest loveof all finds its fulfillment,
not in what it keeps, but inwhat it gives.

SPEAKER_00 (25:53):
Oh, that's sweet.
Father Andrew.
We won't be reading the authors,I think, for these.
The fuck is that?
The author matters less than thecentral.
Of course it does.

SPEAKER_01 (26:05):
The highest love of all finds its fulfillment, not
in what it keeps, but in what itgives.

SPEAKER_00 (26:10):
That's sweet.
That's really pretty.
That's perfect for the holidayseason as well.
It is.
Huh.
It's what you give that matters.
It's what you give.
Is that what you got from thesame quote?
Like it's what okay.
What did you get instead?
Like, what do you mean?

SPEAKER_01 (26:24):
The highest love of all finds its fulfillment and
not what it keeps, but in whatit gives.

SPEAKER_00 (26:28):
Just like don't keep things all to yourself.
Show love by sharing those withothers.
That's way better than like.
Okay.
Yeah, that's really sweet.
That's that's really sweet.
It's cute.
I like that.
Okay.
Yeah.
I love uh cute.
I quite like it actually.
Okay.
Now I'm curious what the otherside's gonna say.
Like it's gonna be somethingtotally different, you think?
Totally different.
We'll figure it out at the endof the episode.

(26:49):
And we'll figure it out thenwe'll see if how the two per
episode is gonna go.

SPEAKER_01 (26:52):
How the two compare as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (26:54):
Also, I'm curious how many ep how many cards are
in this box.
It looked like more than a year,more than a year's worth.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's that's what's mostimportant.
We need to make this three year.
I think it'll be fine.
Okay.
Yeah.
Um so we also yeah, we're gonnaplay true the drink.
Yes, I have a question first.
We have time.
Yeah, we have time.
Hell yeah.
I have no idea.
We have time.
We're a mess today.

(27:16):
Question.
I love it, yes.
Um hypothetical situation.
Hypothetical, okay.
You're in bed, okay.
And you hear a noise at the inthe middle of the night.
Am I by myself?
No, you're with your husband.
Okay.
Sorry, that's fair.
Yep.
Yes.
You and your partner aresleeping in bed at night.
Yep.
You hear a noise.
Whose job is it to goinvestigate that noise?
Yes.

(27:36):
His of course it's his job,right?
Like, I'm not crazy like if Ihear a noise.
Yeah, unless it's like somethingwhere I'm like, no, you need
backup and we both go.
Like, it's that.
Oh, am I crazy?
Not a situation where we bothgo.
No.
Well, it would be a situationwhere you both go investigate.

SPEAKER_01 (27:51):
Where I don't want to stay and get murdered in the
bed by myself.
Sounds like someone's breakingin.
What if they come around to theslider in the bedroom while he's
out looking for them?

SPEAKER_00 (27:59):
The slider's locked.

SPEAKER_01 (28:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (28:01):
They could break in.
Okay.
I would go with.
You think?
Yeah.
There's less likelihood of oneof us dying if we're together.
And if we're together, then weboth die.
Hmm.
Okay, that's fair.
What about you?
Um, yeah, there's not asituation where I'm going to
check out.
I don't even have a weapon.

(28:21):
What the fuck am I gonna do?
You're just letting the otherperson like go figure it out.
Yeah.
Yeah, of course.
Did something happen recentlythat made you think about this?
Not particularly sweet, not Imean something happened.
What was it?
It was not, I don't want to.

unknown (28:41):
He's gonna tell me.

SPEAKER_00 (28:42):
Oh my god.
You have to say it now.
Not I mean, like, nothingactually happened.
There was a situation where Iwas in bed um with a fr um a
partner.
A partner at one point in mylife.
Yep.
And uh we had heard a noise, andlike I was like, what?

(29:04):
Did you hear that?
And he's like, Yeah, what wasthat?
And I was like, I have nofucking clue.
Why don't you go find it?
How would I know that?
Um first of all, I'm on theinside.
Like, I don't sleep.
There's not like I'm also I'mnot by the door.
I'm not by the door.
Uh-huh.
You're closer.
Why would I get up and go check?
I love this.
Like, go look.
I don't know.
Yep.
Um he's gonna kill me.

(29:25):
Um and so like he had gotten up,like we had just we were just we
had just been talking.
Like it wasn't even like we werejust we were talking and like so
he had gotten up to eventuallygo get water to like refill his
water bottle.
And he like came back to like goto bed.
Yes.
And uh nothing there wasnothing.

(29:45):
Like he made sure the doors werelocked, everything's safe.
Yeah, everything was safe.
Um we wake up the next morningand uh he gets he has to go to
work first.
Um so he like I'm still I'm halfasleep.
Uh he's like, he wakes up, he'slike, I'm getting ready, I'm
gonna head out.
He's packing up his stuff to getready for work.

(30:07):
Yeah.
Um all of a sudden he just goeslike hey, what's that over
there?
You know how like like look thatway to like something and like
run out over quick?
Yep.
He had like brought his weaponinto my bedroom, which to me is
a really crazy thing to do.
And he said, Hey, what's thatover there?
Yeah, he's to like distract mewhile he like grabbed his weapon
to like get it out of mybedroom.

(30:31):
And he got it when?
When did he like it?
I guess when he like went to goget water, he like what and also
grabbed his his weapon out ofthe other bedroom, yeah.
And like brought it into thebedroom to sleep with.
And I'm like, what if my dog hadseen that?
Like, what if my dog had likestepped on it and it was it on
the ground?
Yes, Carly.

(30:53):
Like that's wild.
The craziest thing.
Huh.
And then did you like not turnand you're like, no, I see.
No, I really I really was like,is there a bug on my wall?
I used him a dumbass and lookedand was like, but what is it?
Like, and then you see himtrying to hide.
No.
I was like, wait, what is it?
And he was like, nothing.
He came back and I was like,wait, what was it?

(31:14):
What did you just do?
He eventually told you.
Yeah.
And then of course I like wentback and looked at my camera.
I was like, he's the I was like,there's no way you actually
brought it up.
Yeah, like that wasn't.
There's no way you brought aweapon into my bedroom without
me knowing.
Did you see when he brought itin?
Like, yeah, watched everything.
I went back and looked at mycamera.
I was like, this he reallybrought He really just walked in
with it.
Oh my god.
Uh huh.
I felt so unsafe.

(31:35):
I'm kidding.
I felt I was I didn't even know.
No, I I understand why he didit.
Like I understand, I understandthe reasoning.
Yeah.
I just Was there a lot ofactivity?
We're just not sure.
The noise we heard, just to beclear.
Yeah.
Like, so you know I have my TVgoing.
It was a commercial.
Oh.
It was like my fire like I havemy YouTube TV going, like the

(31:57):
the YouTube going and like thefireplace noise in the
background.
It was that.
It like switched into acommercial.
Oh my gosh.
And that was the voices we hadheard.
Stop.
And so like.
It was nothing.
It was literally nothing.
But anyways, so you think it'sall it's never ever the woman's
job to go first?
I don't I mean.
Sure.
Like pending what the dynamicis.

(32:19):
What's the dynamic where?
Sure.
Allegedly, according to the man.
That man is so according to theman, we'll call him Timothy.
I don't know what the fuck.
Whatever.
According to Timothy.
He does not know how to have aconversation on a first date.

(32:40):
It's crazy to say to a person.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
To be fair, he hadn't been onthe first date in eight years,
so.
That's true.
But is that something he wouldhave said eight years ago?
And if so, how did he ever getinto a relationship?
It worked out for him.
I mean, they broke up.
Why did they break up, did hesay?
Um, he just said that they likeit just like wasn't working out.
Huh.

(33:00):
Okay.
No, I don't feel like that.
After eight years.
It's never enough detail.
I would agree with that.
I'm sure.
I was really trying not to cry.
Uh-huh.
I was really trying not to benosy.
Because in my head, again, we'rejust being friends right now.
Yep.
But I need to know.
Like the job.
Were y'all married?
I just have some questions.
Like, tell me more.
Because were you were you notmarried?
Like, were you together eightyears and never got married?

(33:21):
Because that's also something Ineed to know.
That would also be something ofnote.
Here's another question.
Yeah.
What's a situation?
You and Jason are together fouryears.
Okay.
Five years.
Um To me it doesn't reallymatter.
Hypothetically, any number ofyears in an unmarried, unwed

(33:42):
situation.
And you want to get married,you're like, you love him, he
loves you.
Yeah.
Is there ever a situation whereyou're getting down on one knee
and proposing to that man?
Huh?
I'm not sure.
Really?

(34:02):
Yeah.
Like there's a chance.
Well.
Like, why isn't it happening?

SPEAKER_01 (34:08):
You know, like what has the barrier been?
Why isn't he doing it?
I'd be wondering.

SPEAKER_00 (34:13):
I can't think of a single situation where like I
would sit in love for that long.
Yeah.
And we've been wanting to movein that direction.
Huh.
Like I get, I get equality.
Like I get Women should be ableto do all the things that men do
without judgment and fear of,yeah.
I don't get on my knees.
No.
I'm not begging you.

(34:33):
Of course not.
I would rather literally lick mydog's asshole.
Like there's just there'sactually no way in the way in
hell.
There's no way in hell.
I get on I get on bend and kneefor the Lord and the Lord only.
Yes.
Honestly, like it's just likenot happening.
It's crazy.
It's just like.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (34:53):
No.

SPEAKER_00 (34:54):
I feel like I agree with you on this one, actually.
Like.
Yeah.
It's just not happening.
I get it.
Like I totally.
And like, no shade to anyone whoany woman on here who was
watching this who was proposedto their man.

SPEAKER_01 (35:05):
But you and me, our personality needs a guy to like
validate his feelings for us andlike 100.

SPEAKER_00 (35:12):
Give us that 100.
And I'm not also I'm not waiting10 years.
I'm not waiting eight years.
No.
I'm not waiting five.
I'm not waiting.
I'm not waiting.
If you know, you know.
Sorry.
I'm not waiting.
Look at Jason and I.
Literally, yes.
Yep.
I don't understand what the whatare we waiting for?
That it's not love.
If you're waiting, it's notlove.
You hate me, actually.

(35:33):
You're just like wasting myfucking time.
Yep.
You're waiting for the next bestthing.
I'm literally so toxic.
It's not the most toxic thingyou've ever.
Anyways.
I love not toxic.
Truthful.
Truthful for sure.
A total space for both things.

(35:54):
Both things can be true.
Both things can be true.
I just feel like I cannot.
I just can't.
I can't imagine if you told melike Carly say that.
Take me out back and shoot.
I've lost my fucking mind.

SPEAKER_01 (36:10):
She's gotta go to the farm, you know.
Yeah.
I've lost it.

SPEAKER_00 (36:13):
Yep.
If you ever see me going lookingfor engagement rings for a man.
Yep.
Seriously, Carly, I'm soserious.
Like, just like take me outback.
I've lost my I really say thisisn't the man for you.
No.
Like, we gotta end this.
Yeah.
And if you won't do it, I willlock you in a cage in the
basement.
Kill him or something.
I don't know what to say.

(36:34):
Like, yeah.
Just on a laugh.
Yeah.
Oh my god.
Seriously.
No offense.

SPEAKER_01 (36:39):
No, but truly, like, there are people that maybe are
strong enough to do that andlike have it be significant and
meaningful and like a greatmoment for them.

SPEAKER_00 (36:49):
I wouldn't be included in one of those people.
I don't think you would be like.
I don't know a lot of women whowould be.
No.
I know a lot of strong women.
I know I don't think it hasanything to do with strength,
actually.
I don't think that's what it is.
I don't know what it is, though.
Like, I don't know.
I don't know.
It it maybe it's just aboutwanting to be desired.
I don't know.
Is it desirability?

(37:09):
Wanting to be desired, likechased after, like I don't know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe.
I'm just not doing it.
I'm sorry.
I'm not doing it.
Anyways.
My gosh.
That's making me think though.
Like, who are the people thatwould like you can think, can
you think of anyone in your lifethat would consider it?
I feel like if I thought hardenough, there's probably someone

(37:30):
really who would propose to aman because their man's not
proposing to them.
Nah.
Because it's not about like itthis is not like you've had the
conversation, you know, likethis is like this is this is
you're not making it happen.
So I'm not sure.
So I'm gonna do it, yeah.
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (37:48):
I'm gonna grab the bull by the horns and get after
it.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (37:52):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (37:53):
Is this you?
Are you listening?

SPEAKER_00 (37:56):
You're like wanting to propose to your man and now
we're making you think twice.
Uh please think twice about it.
Yeah.
I'm sorry that we're making youquestion it, but like you
should.
Yeah.
Question it.
Is this really the is this theman for you?
Why isn't he giving you thevalidation that you so
desperately need?
Because not even validation, notthat, but like confidence, like

(38:17):
boosting you.
Like he doesn't want to be withyou.
He doesn't want to be with you.
He doesn't want to marry you ifhe's not getting down on one
knee.
I'll just say that I'm sorry.
Yep.
That sounds really mean.

SPEAKER_01 (38:27):
I mean, it's truthful.
If he's not getting down on oneknee saying marry me, he doesn't
want to marry you.
Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (38:32):
That sounds awful, but it is what it is.
Yeah.
I'm so sorry.
Like, anyways, um those are myquestions.
I'm good with that.

SPEAKER_01 (38:44):
I love that.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (38:46):
I didn't bring any questions for you.
I just brought vibes.
I'm good with your vibes.
I just brought vibes.
And good vibes at that.
Thank you so much.
Um, truth or drink.
You pulled some cards for us.
Yes, I haven't read throughthem.
I'm hoping they're not repeats.
They're out of that after dark,or what are they?
After dark?
Last call.
Last call.
That's what it's called.
Thank you.

(39:06):
Just a quick round or two.
Just a quick round.
My body's mad at me for drinkingat all tonight.
Why?
I don't drink like that.
Shots and wine and if anyone wasever curious why Carly doesn't
want to like wouldn't be maybe agood participant on my
all-inclusive honeymoon.

(39:27):
I also, though, barely sleptlast night.
Like, let's also credit.
I barely ate today.
And I barely slept last night.

SPEAKER_01 (39:34):
You know what?

SPEAKER_00 (39:35):
I'm just saying, and it's fine.
You know what?
It's fine.
That's not a bad thing.
I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_01 (39:40):
I would get a lot of sleep if I'm gonna drink a lot
though.
That would be my plan.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (39:47):
Um is it giving two options?
It is.
Yeah.
I think I've redone one.
Do I often seem like I'm seemI'm like I'm being fake?
Do I often seem like I'm beingfake?
Yeah.
No.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I'm not sweet.

SPEAKER_01 (40:03):
I mean, I always make you think you I always
think you're making fun of meover stupid things.
Oh, but not.

SPEAKER_00 (40:10):
I'm not, but there's not that.
That's a good one.
Thank you.
Simon has joined us.
I love this.
He's been here.
Loving.
Loving this.
Sounds like skunk.
Do you smell it?
No.
Okay.
It's very strong.
What's the most egregious lieyou've ever told me?
Oh, you.
Oh, I don't know.

(40:32):
Um, I'll drink.
I really don't think I have one.
No?
What's the most egregious lieyou've ever told me?
Well, you kept a boyfriend fromme.
You got me there.
Mm-hmm.
Not a boyfriend, also, let's notcall him that.
Someone you were seeing for fourmonths.
Not a boyfriend, though.
Someone you said you thought youwere starting to fall in love
with.
Not a boyfriend though.
You know how often I say that,by the way?

(40:54):
I know.
It's like if you don't label it,you're like, well, it's not a
boyfriend.
That's exactly it.
Yeah.
Thank you so much.

unknown (41:01):
Fuck you.

SPEAKER_00 (41:07):
What negative thing have I said about you that's
haunted you forever?
I don't think I've ever saidanything like that.
Good luck.
Good luck coming up with a onefor you.

SPEAKER_01 (41:20):
Yeah, I don't know that I have one actually.
That's fair.
Yeah.
One time you like questioned meabout something.
I can't remember what it was.
And I was like, that's a goodfriend questioning my judgment,
making me feel uncomfortable,but I gotta think about this
one.

unknown (41:33):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (41:34):
And I was really proud of you.
It was like earlier on in ourfriendship, and I was like, I
appreciate that.
Like you made me look atsomething from like a different
angle, and I was like, Oh.
Yeah.
But that was it.

SPEAKER_00 (41:45):
That's the only thing I remember that I was
like, oh, we're bringing thehard stuff.
Okay, I'll I'll take that.
That's an answer.
Yeah, there's an answer.
Simon looks like an angel rightnow.
He is an angel.
Truly.
Like.
Um, what's the weirdest thingabout me?
The weirdest thing about you?
Yeah.
So interesting to hear youranswer.

(42:06):
The weirdest thing.
You know what's so funny?
I think you would have adifferent answer than almost
like anyone else.
Really?
Yeah.
Why?
Um, the way you know me isdifferent than the way anyone
else knows me.
Aw, really?
I don't know if that's a goodthing.
Why is that not a good thing?
I mean, like, it's a good thing,it's just like not a good thing
for me.

(42:27):
The weirdest thing about you.
But I also don't think that youwould consider it.

SPEAKER_01 (42:31):
I was gonna say most of the stuff you consider weird
about you, I'm like, that'spretty normal.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (42:35):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (42:37):
I don't know that I have anything that stands out.
Oh, that's fine.
The weirdest thing.
I mean, maybe it's like theitems you keep in your car for
years on end without them everfinding a home.

SPEAKER_00 (42:50):
That's valid.
I was gonna ask what, but Idon't want you to name the thing
I'm thinking.
I feel like you'd you wouldname.
Yeah, because it's still in yourcar.
What does it start with?
Is it what I'm thinking of?
Uh, hold on.
What do you call it?
What's the official name of it?
It's it uh uh is it appropriate?
Like nope.

(43:13):
Yeah, okay.
Nope.
It is still indeed in my car aswe speak.
So moving on.
Of course.
Okay, moving on.
Moving on.
And to be fair, that does comeout of my car.
When?
Um, when I go home.
When like children can't bearound.
I don't know.
Oh, have you ever ghostedsomeone you were close with?

(43:38):
What do you mean close with?
Yeah, let's define close.
Yeah, like talking tooconsistently and then you just
disappear.
Yeah, I have.
Same.
Not not recently though.
No, I'm proud of you.
Now we're like all about endingthings like nicely as adults,
you know what I mean?
Sending surveys.

(43:59):
So proud of you.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Um do you think I'm more or lesshonest than you?
That's easy.
I'm less honest than you are.
You think so?
100%.
Yeah, I would say so too.
A thousand percent.
Yeah.
I'm sparing people's feelings.

SPEAKER_02 (44:21):
Sparing.

SPEAKER_00 (44:27):
This round's on me.
Oh, drink up.
Do you even remotely care what Ithink of you?
Everybody else answers.
Yeah, I do care what you thinkof me.
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 (44:41):
Of course.

SPEAKER_00 (44:42):
Yeah, anyone that says they don't care what people
think about them at all, likeanybody.
You're a liar.
Yeah.
There's like there are people Idon't care what you think.
Right, but like the peoplearound me.
Yeah, you're not.
A person who says no one, I careabout nobody's opinion.
That's a lie.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Then you're just like a monster.
Yeah like you're someone whodoesn't have boundaries and like

(45:03):
yeah.
Or too many boundaries, maybe.
Maybe.
Lower some boundaries.
I don't know what to tell you.
Um, what's the wor Oh, is thisthe best I've looked since
you've known me?
Ooh, uh like not right, not thismoment in the right.
Is this the best I've looked?

(45:23):
Sure.
Sure.
Whatever.
Yeah.
I don't feel like that's likenot right now.
Yeah, I mean right now, butyou're gorgeous.
You were gorgeous then, you'regorgeous now.
Sure.
Yeah.
Sure.
Thank you so much.
You're so welcome.
Cheers to that.
Cheers to that.
Cranking through these cards, bythe way, guys.

(45:44):
There's like one more.
That's so funny.
Ooh.
Ooh, what's something you knowwould make you a better person,
but you just don't want to doit.
Oh, uh, going to the gym.
Working out, eating better.
I love that.
I took it as make you a betterperson, like emotionally, like

(46:06):
internally.
Probably like doing the workthat my therapist asks me to do.
Yeah.
Would probably make me a betterperson.
Following the plan.
You know what I mean?
Like, like not overthinkingeverything like she asked me to
do.
You know what I mean?
Like, yeah, like actually not ina space where I've learned to do
that at the moment.
So we're just gonna get throughthe holidays first, you know.
Listen.

(46:26):
Yeah.
Listen.
I'm doing what I can.
Yep.
With the tools that I have inthe moment that we're in.
You know, so just trying to makeit to 2026.
This girl's doing good.
She's gonna get we're gonnasqueak in.
Yep.
Squeak in.
Barely making it.
Um what am I most ignorant?

(46:47):
This is the last question, bythe way.
What am I most ignorant about?
I would never say that you'reignorant about something.
I'm ignorant about so manythings.

SPEAKER_01 (46:56):
I mean, we all have stuff to learn, sure.
But like, like we've talkedabout this before.
Like, you can use that word, butit just has such a negative,
like, yeah, there's a lot thatwe all could learn about.

SPEAKER_00 (47:08):
Yeah.
But I wouldn't say there'sanything that I'm like, yeah,
that's the thing Carla'signorant about.
Like girls just ignoringlearning about Oh, that's fair.
I'm always open to learningabout things.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Yeah.
What about you?
Are you ignorant about anything?
So many things.
Totally.
Yeah.
Totally.
Anything you'd like to learnmore about right now?
No.
I'm in a season of I don't wantto learn more.

unknown (47:27):
I felt that.

SPEAKER_00 (47:29):
I really felt that atmosphere.
My brain is full.
I'm tired.
I'm exhausted.
I'm so tired of learning newthings.
And you know, that actuallymakes me think this is such a
tangent.
It's okay.
Such a tangent.
That's what a horoscope said.
So that's exactly what ahoroscope said.
That we're on tangent.
It's gonna be a tangent episode.
Oh my gosh.
I love that.

SPEAKER_01 (47:47):
So um I saw this thing the other day.
I was scrolling somewhere,right?
Yeah.
That said, um, if you're havinga hard time like keeping up,
you're not responding to text,you're not leaving the house.
Like, this is not normal.
And like, you need basicallylike a let us help you.
I don't know if it was therapy,if it was meds, if it was

(48:07):
whatever.
Sure.
But I just was like, okay, firstof all, we're all overwhelmed
now.
Yeah.
We're not leaving the housebecause there's a whole world
out there and we're barelykeeping up with the world in
here.
And I'm not responding backbecause I can't keep up.
Like, I just can't, emotionally,brain power-wise, whatever.

(48:28):
Um, and so I saw that, and oldme would have been like, yeah,
that's so true.

SPEAKER_00 (48:32):
And now I'm like, no, like what they are telling
us that we need to be better atkeeping up and doing all the
things.
I'm like, no, we need to say nomore.
Interesting.
That's how you took thatmessage.
Mm-hmm.
What okay?
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you think that like I wish wehad I wish we knew like where
that was from, like where youwhere you saw that message?

(48:53):
I know.
It was something that just likepopped up.
Like, was it like a talk space?
Like an ad, a talk thing, a TEDtalk, maybe.
I don't know.
Damn.
Yeah.
Damn, damn, damn, damn.
I didn't screenshot it.
I just remembered in that momentgoing, huh?
No.
No.
I don't prescribe to that.
Yeah.
When when do you feel like youmade that change?
Like, when do you feel like nowthat I truly can't keep up?

(49:16):
When did that start?
When did that start?

SPEAKER_01 (49:19):
Um becoming an adult, motherhood, life in 2025,
like this year, like so manythings.
It's a mother too.
Correct.
But I think it gets worse andworse.
Like it's a very nowrealization, but it's like a
thing that's been building.
Okay.
Yeah.
And I don't think anybody cankeep up, truly.

(49:40):
Like, how many of us are saying,I missed that bill, I forgot
about this?
I like that's not normal ifwe're gonna talk about something
not normal.
But like, we're doing too muchto do all those things that like
don't contribute to our lives.
Like, we're spending a lot oftime figuring out our weeks and
planning for our holidays andnot like living today.

SPEAKER_00 (50:04):
Do you feel like our parents weren't doing the same
thing?
Like, do you feel like is itjust the age we're at, or is it
like it's what society like doyou feel like our parents were
as busy as we are?
Uh yes and no.

SPEAKER_01 (50:16):
Yeah, I think there's a tipping point around
probably our parents' age oflike where divorce starts
becoming bigger and things likethat.

SPEAKER_00 (50:26):
So, like I think that affects stuff, it affects
people's livelihood andwell-being and expectations, and
then those contribute to how wefeel about future generations,
which makes things worse.
But I don't know, like it's alltied together.
I'm not gonna discredit that,but I think it's like very much
current state of things.

SPEAKER_01 (50:48):
Like, we had a home phone when we were kids.
How many people were texting usand expecting responses?

SPEAKER_00 (50:54):
We have we have immediate, we have immediate
contact with people and wedidn't have the and we expect
immediate response.

SPEAKER_01 (50:59):
Like, if we let a text that we feel like an awful
human being and apologize forit, yeah, like my favorite thing
about Elena was one day she'slike, I know you'll respond.
Might be today, it could betomorrow, it could be like weeks
from now.

SPEAKER_00 (51:11):
But like, you'll get there.
Yeah, yeah.
That is nice.
I will thank you forunderstanding.
I really appreciate that.
Yeah, yeah, that is really nice.
But it just it hit me that likewe're shoving it in people's
faces that it's not normal tonot be able to keep up.
Who def who decided who decidedthat though?
Like, it obviously is normal ifwe're all feeling the same
thing, right?
Like, but there's people likecommenting on this stuff and

(51:33):
being like, I can't do it, Ineed help.

SPEAKER_01 (51:36):
No, you need to start saying no and you need to
like be okay with notresponding.

SPEAKER_00 (51:40):
And that's so funny.
Do you feel like you are okay?
Like, do you feel like you'reI'm getting better about it,
yeah.
Good.
Like I've I let so many I meanKelsey, sorry, I still owe you a
text.
Well, it's gonna be a grouptext.
It'll be a group text.
She says I can't talk to youanymore without her on it.
Yep.
You think that it'sunreasonable?
Like, like you can't be friendswithout me.

SPEAKER_01 (51:59):
I think that yeah, I think it's unreasonable.

SPEAKER_00 (52:05):
You do like why though?
I'm a homo.
I get that.

SPEAKER_01 (52:13):
Yeah, um, that's valid.
And it's like I I can do it inthe group text.
There's no reason I can't.
We can start a group text,Kelsey.
I adore you, but we'll only betexting in a group setting.

SPEAKER_00 (52:27):
But tell me tell me why you think it's unreasonable.
Like that's not unreasonable.
But I just curious, like, why isit crazy that not crazy, I don't
like that word, but why do youthink that like it's what's the
word?
Not strange.
Like, why is it I unreasonable?
That's the why is itunreasonable that I would want
to be included in yourconversation?

(52:48):
Because I think um like it wouldbe unreasonable for me to want
to be included in everyconversation you have with
people that I like, right?
But it's not just people thatyou like.
This is my friend too.
People I like know or like Butthat's not what the that's not
what the situation is.
Yeah.
Like if I if I So like if youwere gonna text someone that I'm

(53:10):
friends with and ask them aquestion I'm just friends with,
though.
Like that's not what I'm that'snot what we're talking about,
though.
We're not?
No, it's not just somebody I'mfriends with.
This is my other like very bestfriend, you know what I mean?
Like, why can't I be like I alsowant to be included in the
conversation?
I don't feel like that's I don'tI don't know.
I don't like because what whatdo you like?

(53:30):
Why there's no reason I mean Ican include you in it.
There's no reason not to.
I just think because there's noreason not to, I'm like, why do
you want me blowing up you?
Like it'll be on mute, trustthat.
But like I just still want to belike because I want to be
talking about, I want tointerject.
Because I want to have like a anopinion on something that we're
yeah, yeah, yeah, just in case,especially because a lot of it

(53:52):
is probably school system based.
I have a question for you lateron on the on the camera, but
yeah, yeah, or like even likewhen you talk about strange th
like maybe maybe if you talkabout stranger things, that may
be something like maybe yeahthat pushes me to want to watch
it because you made it sound sointeresting.
I'm just saying, like, you neverknow.
You just never know.
I will include you when Irespond back to it.

(54:13):
I appreciate that.
Yeah, thank you so much.
Yeah, you're very welcome.
Okay, I feel like that's being alittle bit more.
Do you want to read the rest ofthe thing?
Oh, that's right.
We did that.
Okay, so we did through thedrink.
Yep.
Okay, we did it.

SPEAKER_01 (54:25):
Now we got the backside of our card.
Of our great cards, our amazingcards.

SPEAKER_00 (54:30):
Okay.
Find your passion and pursue itwith whole heart and single
mind.
Find your passion and pursue itwith whole heart and single
mind.
What's your passion?
Do you feel like you have youryou know what your passion is?
Who is just one passion, by theway?
I know.
I have a thousand.
What's your uh is your passionjust like life?
Can I say that?
Yeah.
My passion is life, so likelearning new things, pursuing

(54:52):
life, pursuing life, conqueringwhatever comes my way.
Conquering, that's a good word.
That's a good word for like2026.
I don't feel like that's likethat's a very large word.

SPEAKER_01 (55:02):
It's a very large word.
Has some negative connotation,but like it doesn't have to.
Conquering, that's like I feellike it's a very war term,
war-driven.
Oh, okay.
Conquer.
Take over.
Yeah.
Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 (55:14):
But it doesn't need to be.
It can be a very like positive.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
I never once you're right, it isa negative.
There I can see why it it islike a war, like giving warfare.
It's giving warfare.
It's because I've been readingall these war facts.
Yeah.
It's fucking the 40s, we'rekilling us, yeah.
They were a dread out now.

(55:34):
We're back in the room.
Yeah, but now we're in the 50s.
We're in the turn of the centurynow.
There's some dicey stuff inthere too, but oh, there's
definitely some dicey thingscoming.
I'm a little nervous about whatthat's gonna do first.
Uh-huh.
You know.

unknown (55:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (55:46):
The racism era.
Um, uh era is crazy becausewe're still in it.
But yeah, there are some factswe'll bring forward.
There will be a lot of factswe'll bring forward.
Some might still be relevant.
Yeah.
Most.
Well, I shouldn't say many.
Many, many.
Um, find your passion and pursueit with your whole heart and

(56:06):
single-mind.
Also think what who is asingle-minded these days?

SPEAKER_01 (56:09):
Like, that's like not we we can't have single
minds.

SPEAKER_00 (56:12):
We're responding to 18,000 texts and jobs and going
here and going there and kids,and yeah.
Is there anything you feel likeyou are single-minded about?
Ooh.
I think no.
Really?
Not one thing.
You don't think you're like asingle-minded, single-minded
about parenting?

(56:33):
No.
Really?

SPEAKER_01 (56:34):
I was thinking about like my values and who I am.
Oh, no, because like I believein fluidity, and like if someone
says, I'm not sure that you'reholding that value in the right
regard, like, I'm open tohearing that too.

SPEAKER_00 (56:47):
Um, like what give me an example of what like a
value, a value you would bewilling to like navigate
through.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (56:54):
Like, if if I look at certain situations or
scenarios in a way that coulddiminish my thoughts on a
person, right?
Or like whatever it is, andsomeone were to question that
push against me.
Like, I don't want to be sosingle-minded and so like
narrow-minded that I can't seelike the additional perspective

(57:15):
that would help me look atsomething differently.

SPEAKER_00 (57:18):
Are you thinking of a specific situation?

SPEAKER_01 (57:20):
Not necessarily.
There could be many that couldbe fought for here.

SPEAKER_00 (57:25):
Right.
Yeah.
Sure, sure, sure.
Yeah, but like quite a few.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't know.
I don't know about that one.
I don't I don't know that I Idon't sorry.
When you say value, are valuesand beliefs the same thing to
you?
Not necessarily.
Okay.
Is there a belief that you feellike that that of yours that you
feel like is fluid?

(57:47):
Ooh.

SPEAKER_01 (57:48):
Well, I think like a belief system that I hold space
to be fluid is religion.
Like, not not seeing like likewhen you're looking at the
belief systems and the valueswithin certain religious
practices and things like that.
If you're like, So you're tryingto be open to additional.
I see.

SPEAKER_00 (58:07):
So like not religion as a whole, like correct.
But just like the individualcorrect religion.
Okay, that's fair.
The segments of religion andlike what you look at and value
within those.
Okay.
That's fair.

SPEAKER_01 (58:16):
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
But like I don't think there'sanything that I'm so
single-minded on that I'm like,no, I have blinders.
I'm not looking around for Yeah.
I maybe there are though, andI'm just like thinking I'm like,
I'm not gonna stop fighting forrights for people and certain
rights and things like that, butI still am.

SPEAKER_00 (58:36):
I don't know.
I think there are I think thereare like there are beliefs that
I hold that I'd I'd know that II won't ever change.
Like obviously, like injusticethere that I won't like ever go
back on.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (58:50):
Like we've built those blocks to get here.
But like where we go, I'm veryopen.

SPEAKER_00 (58:55):
But I I also feel like sometimes that's not true
too.
Oh, what do you mean?
Like there are people inpositions of power that I don't
agree with anything that theydo, right?
And so I'm not gonna beopen-minded about their policies
and perspectives and oh okay.
That's fair, that's valid.
That's very fair.
Do you but you but you could youbelieve that people can change

(59:17):
the the way they think, right?
Yeah.
So you can be open-minded aboutthat open-minded that people can
change the way they think andthe way they they the things
that they believe.
Yeah.
Right?
So like in that sense, I guess.
Yeah, in that sense, it's allkind of flexible and ever
changing.
That's like, yeah, that'scertainly not that's that's

(59:37):
really like a reach, I think, inthat aspect.
But like, yeah.
I don't know.
Interesting.
I don't know.
I know it's an interesting,like, deep dive into how the
brain and like people work.
Ugh.

unknown (59:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (59:50):
You ever get like so sick of people?
Yeah.
I get so exhausted.
Do you have intrusive thoughts?

SPEAKER_02 (59:55):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (59:57):
Do you?
I do, yeah.
Um yes, do you want to tell meabout one of them?
I had one when I was in Lansingor in Detroit with Steve.
Yeah.
And I shared it with him.
And like he was so like put offby it.
He was like Really?

(01:00:18):
Yeah.
He was so like, I don't know.
I've and I felt like dismissiveor something.
No, not dismissive.
He was so taken aback by it.
He was really he thought it wasthe craziest thing.
Like, how could you think that?
How could yes?
And I was like, it I wouldn'tactually do it.
Like that's not at all what Iwas saying.
It just is like But like they'rethere.
They just like play in my head.

(01:00:39):
It's just like a would you everjust have you ever thought about
you know what I mean?
Like you know how many um newparents, especially, want to
just like drive over a bridge orcrash into a tree.
That's exactly the type of thingI was thinking.
Like, yep.
And not and it's not in thislike grandiose like whatever.
It's just yeah, that's a thingpeople do.

(01:01:01):
That's there are options.
That sounds awful.
It sounds awful.
Yeah.
Of course.
Yep.
And I don't and I actuallyshouldn't, I don't even know if
I don't know.
It's it's how but I think weneed to hold space for the fact
that that happens for people.
It but I thought it happened foreverybody.
Is it not something thateverybody expected?

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:19):
I think it happens for a good amount of people.
I would say probably a majorityof people.
Like I think with men it's less.
Intrusive thoughts, really?
I I feel like statisticallyspeaking, I feel like I read
something about this once that alot of women didn't realize
that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:34):
Like I really thought it was just like
everybody.
I yes, yes.
Yes, I really thought that.
I guess I'm I don't think I'veever shared with somebody about
an intrusive thought.
And like obviously never fuckingwill again.
I'm so embarrassed about it.
Like it was just like, okay.
I mean, Jason and I like openlyshare intrusive thoughts.

(01:01:55):
Yeah, that's fair.
I don't know why I shouldn'thave like he's not my husband.
No, but I mean I've shared withother people before him too, and
I don't think I've ever gotten alike Yeah, I I me neither.
I wasn't expecting the reactionthat I got, and so I was like, I
was like, oh, maybe I I'll justnever share anything with you
again.
I just kidding.
Yeah.
Uh yeah.

(01:02:15):
I don't know.
Anyways, yeah.
I think we need to do like amental health episode at some
point, like bring out an expertor something.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:22):
Okay, yeah, yeah, and just go through like some we
have talked this year about somany different things that are
happening.
Yeah.
Personally in the world, in theUnited States, with our friends,
like there's a lot, there's alot of science behind it.
There's a lot of like ways toget around some of it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:41):
Yeah.
But it's hard.
It's hard.
It's so hard.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:48):
That's why I'm excited to be celebrating
episode 50 of the podcast.
Yeah.
It's something that we're likepushing forward with and doing,
and it gets me excited for nextyear, for sure.
Yeah.
Excited for like episode 100,episode 150.
You know what I mean?
Like.
It's like fun things to come forus.
Even if like no again, even ifnobody ever watches another

(01:03:08):
episode.
This is just us getting to havefun and saying, I love that.
And like it's just like a bonusthat people watch it, you know
what I mean?
Yes.

unknown (01:03:16):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:17):
It's just a bonus.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:17):
And speaking of people watching it, apparently
you were saying earlier lastweek that there were some folks
that felt like we might havebeen referencing people they
knew in their lives.
And I just think it's so specialthat we have enough listeners,
yeah, that like our shitresonates with them.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:34):
And that they're like, I can guarantee, like, no
one that's listening is anybodywe have been referencing or
talking about, at least inreflection to last week for
portion of it.
Yeah.
Um, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:44):
Yeah.
But just I felt really humbledwhen like you said, oh, people
are feeling like we're talkingabout them specifically.
Them that specifically, yeah.
Yeah.
Like thank you.
Just in general.
People just go to show likepeople in general.
There's like kind of shittypeople.
I'm just kidding.
That's not what I meant.
That there's so many that like.

(01:04:05):
So many, like yeah.
Hysterical.
Hysterical.
Alright.
I gotta call it.
I am so I should have been inbed like hours ago.
This is truly an after darkepisode.
Actually, not even midnight.
It's so it is so close tomidnight.
It's really not 1123.
So crazy to think about, isn'tit?

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:26):
Yeah, it is kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:27):
But it's just so crazy because like we're gonna
go upstairs and like do moreshots.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:30):
I think I have the flu or something.
Okay.
I really must, right?

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:35):
Like my eyes are heavy.
Uh-huh.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
I can't hold my booze.
I've had too many shots.
That's what it is.
That could be.

unknown (01:04:43):
Sure.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:44):
I'm kidding.
Okay.
Um, thank you so much.
We're tuning into episode 50,the big five-o of Make It to
Wednesday, a hump day podcast.
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I don't feel like we said thisin a long time.
Share our shit.
SOS.

(01:05:25):
SOS.
We have not said that in such along time, actually.
I totally forgot about that.
Yeah.
Share our motherfucking shit.
We'd love that.
Thank you so much.
Um we'll be back next week forepisode 51.
We're in our 50s.
We're in our I hate to say thatout loud.
For the podcast.
For the podcast.
For the podcast.
And of course, age-wise, I'm inmy like teens.

(01:05:47):
Yes.
So young.
So young.
We'll be back next week forepisode 51 of Make It to
Wednesday.
See you then.
Bye.