January 2, 2023 • 35 mins
Episode 51 Mental Health Mondays with Special Guest Deb Geiger Rochau. She is, The Next Level Lady, helps you discover and dissolve your limiting beliefs to get to live the life you love. Getting through her own mental struggles and hard times, Deb has first hand experience of trauma and success. The depths of Deb’s ashes have proven to be the height of her beauty, and now her passion to help you to get to that next level and beyond in life. Join BCC Evolution’s weekly live YouTube show for Mental Health Mondays hosted by the Founder Kelli Melissa where we talk to special guests who are professional mental health experts or guests who experience a mental health challenge or mental health advocates. You can find more about Deb here: Thenextlevelandbeyond.com Thenextlevellady.com Want to be a guest? Reach out to support@bccevolution.org and tell us your story. Need more resources? Want to get educated more about mental health and suicide prevention? Check out our programs and website for more info: www.bccevolution.org Support our cause today to help us bridge the gap by educating people to support those who are faced with a mental health challenge. Become a “Warrior for Mental Health” today for only $20 or more per month!
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Speaker 1 (00:35):
Welcome to another episode of Mental Health Mondays, where we
talk to guests who are either professionals in the mental
health space, advocates of mental health, or those that live
with or experience a mental health challenge. And I am
really excited to bring on my guests today and we're
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anybody that you think will that needs this information really,
because that's what we do. That's why we do what
we do, is so that we can get resources to
those that need it the most by sharing guest stories.
And so, without further ado, I am going to bring
on Deb. Thank you Deb so much for joining me today.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
You're welcome, Kelly, thank you so much for having me here.
It's such an honor and a pleasure to even share
our passions in this space.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Absolutely, and I be honest, I totally kind of threw
Deb in today because my original guest had to have
a change of plans, and so I am so thank
well that you could jump on last minute.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Absolutely, flexibility is key for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yes, definitely. Well, tell the audience a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Well, thank you again for having me. My name's deb
Gegaakau and I like to coin myself as the next
level lady. But I holp people discover and dissolve limiting
beliefs so that they can advance their life, live to
the next level, but also live a life they love awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
And so with I know, I mean kind of with
my background too, is a lot of those limiting beliefs
that come up. Like what are those type of things
that you see the most often often.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Well, sometimes it's hard to even identify at first, Kelly,
because we have a thought pattern where we think a
lot of things in our head and then we talk
a lot of talk to ourselves, and that's where negativity
can fester and build, because then it gets into a subconscious.
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So our conscious is where we think, and then it
gets into a subconscious where we just kind of go
about our business in a methodical way, not even knowing
why we do what we do until hopefully someone either
connects with us, kind of cues us back in, sets
us straight. But somehow we get back to a neutral
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ground of HM asking ourselves, why why do I do that?
Where does that come from?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yes, I know that those creep in more often than not.
And what made you?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Like?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
What got you into this work?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
That's a great question too, because I have done it
for years without even knowing. Really I'm an educator. I
have an education background. I've been in the schools, in
the classrooms for years. The last ten years of my
education career was in special education, and I was in
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the classroom and really loved being an advocate, really loved
problem solving, but mostly helping everybody involved, family, students, teachers,
everybody in the classroom, service providers. And it just came
very naturally to me. So I loved being able to help.
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A lot of my friends came to me for advice,
and again, this naturally came out, and then they would
be happy, they'd walk away and call me back if
they needed anything else. But I could just see growth,
and I could see people being better in their lives
and wanting more and getting more, and it just inspired
me to keep going.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
That's awesome. Yeah, it's definitely, I mean one of those
things that you maybe didn't plan on pursuing, but as
things start to unfold, it's like this journey that kind
of just gets put in front of your face and
you're like, okay, well, I guess this is kind of what.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I'm doing exactly. And I have a very much I
have a very big growth mindset, so's it's inspiring to
me and I love to grow lifelong learner. So sharing
that passion in my gifts with other people is so
fulfilling in my life for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah. Absolutely. And so growth mindset, I know that's something
that I have this hair that's like driving me crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Sorry, I hate that.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I know. Growth mindset is one of those things that
we do and we don't talk about very often. I
know it was introduced to me when I was in
a corporate job and it was actually the first time
I had heard it in all of my career, and
I was like, oh, wow, like this makes so much
more sense to me. So can you share a little
bit about like what's the difference between a growth mindset
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and a fixed mindset?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So if you think about a plant potted in a
small that plant is only going to grow as big
or as small as its roots are allowed. So a
fixed mindset would be a small pot. But a plant
needs to grow further. So it's either going to maintain
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this small or confined area and not glow grow, or
it's going to die. If you pot plant that in
a bigger pot, those roots will grow and flourish, and
that underground growth then brings this beautiful blossom of what
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could be.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Growth isn't easy, though, Growth, I tell a lot of
my friends hard is sometimes I think, oh, heart is bad.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I don't want to do hard hard it's too hard.
But heart is good and easy is hard.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, it's definitely. I mean even with I like the
plant analogy excuse me, plant analogy because and we were
also we talked about flexibility. It's a lot of that.
I mean, with a growth mindset, you have more flexibility.
And ultimately, I know in some of the practices that
I do, the more flexible you can be, you actually
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have more control. And that's kind of I mean, if
you think of it in the plant terms, is they
have more control to be able to grow bigger when
they have more flexibility. So I love that analogy.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Thank you, And isn't it true? Though? Flexibility kind of
goes right along with vulnerability, and vulnerability can be scary
at times. I think of the growth story of a lobster,
though too, have you heard that one?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I haven't.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Okay, it's it's And when I was in the classroom,
we used to have the life cycle lessons, So we
have the caterpillars and we'd grow them up and feed them,
and then we'd see them in their cocoons and the
metamorphosis and the blood of the caterpillar rained down as
the caterpillar broke free and was a butterfly. So they're
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really cool. Kind of a similar analogy. But a lobster,
of course the body inside. The body is really squishy, right,
and the shell on the outside is hard. Well, what
happens when they grow They have to break out of
that shell and have a new one. But they can't
just break out in the middle of everywhere because then
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they're not protected. So they actually go down to the
bottom and find a rock to heightender in isolation so
that they can break their shell and still feel protected
so they're not too vulnerable for everybody. And then they
rebuild and come back up and now with us too
as we go through our life cycles, were a child
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or a toddler, then we get to elementary school. Of course,
as a teacher, I go through those timelines school, elementary school,
middle school, high school, college, or whatever happens after life
after high school. We break our shell a number of
times in our life process, whether we like it or not,
and sometimes more when we have a growth mindset.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I love that. So two things that I didn't know about.
One with the butterflies and how like the blood that
I had no idea like, I literally have not seen
the transformation of butterflies, so that's really something that I
can totally imagine. And then I love the lobster analogy too.
And I also didn't know that that they go down
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to the bottom and regrew their shell. That's really really
interesting to me. So yeah, wow.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I think of the butterfly analogy often when I work
with somebody that's right on the cusp of a ba
through because you can feel the tension. And another thing
on a side note, what I love to do is
create the empathetic spaces to say it's okay, it's okay,
but when they are at that moment of breakthrough or
that next level moment. It hurts and it's scary, and
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sometimes you just want to just stay in that cocoon.
I don't want to do it. I just I'm fine
with status quo. I'm fine with right here. But geez,
the beauty of that metamorphosis is amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, I know that. I mean, at least for me,
I've had multiple of those times throughout life. And like
I was saying, like, coming from the corporate job and
then I jumped into my nonprofit full time, and I
was it's one of those I always say, take the
leap of faith, and I was like, I gotta do this,
Like this has to happen, and I don't know how
the heck it's going to happen, but I've got to
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do it. And I did, and it was the scariest
thing I've ever done. And then jumping into a business
that you thought was really good base and then you
find out that it doesn't have a ton of structure
because it was really just a side project for so long,
and then you have to rebuild the business. And throughout
that time, it's like breaking through those different things of well,
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I really want to do this, but how do I
get to that point. And then also, I mean, I
just feel like there's so many different layers, especially as
an entrepreneur business owner, that you have to overcome and
figure out as you go. So yeah, I love those analogies.
Just thinking about the butterfly and the lobster and what
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is that next level that you're going to break through?
Like that's really really cool.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, trusting the process in that next level. And I
know that a lot of people have heard the enjoy
the journey, enjoy the journey, and I personally am like,
I don't like some parts of the journey. But my
coach I hired, I have coaches on my own as
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a life discovery coach. I hired a coach, and I
love the way he said, find joy in the journey
because you're not gonna you might not maybe some people do,
but you might not enjoy at all, and that's okay,
But find joy in the journey.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I like that too, because it definitely are I mean,
the journey of entrepreneurship, business owner, all of that stuff
is you think that it's going to go one way
and then most of the time you get like slapped
in the face and are like nope, that's not actually
how it happens, and so it is it's finding that
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journey or finding the joy in the journey. I love
how you said that, because there are those little moments
that you're like, oh wow, like I did that or
oh wow, that happened, and you should be proud of
those moments instead of For me, what was happening was
I was searching and searching and like layering and layering
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and layering, and then one day it was like it
was almost like the Lobster, right, Like I had to
go down and break through and be like, I've got
to release some of this to be able to do
this instead of all of it, because I can't do
all of it, and so I had to release some
things that were not serving me so that I could
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better serve my mission and my purpose and all of that.
And so it's like literally I'm like, oh, I'm just
thinking about the lobster, and I'm like breaking through and
letting go and creating new so that I can hold
on to what actually matters, so.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Right, and letting go of whatever perfection is. I don't
like that in my vocabulary, because we're all transforming and
becoming new think in our thoughts and our words and
our deeds, So letting go of that. It's got to
be one way, a perfect way before I get started,
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Like even with BCC evolution, for your sister's honor.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Whatever you do is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Getting her name out, never forgetting to say her name,
to have her in conversations. That's it. It doesn't matter
what you do and how you do it. The mission
is there. And look at how fre you come. How
cool is this through it all?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, it's definitely. I mean, well, I mean it started
as a passion project and then really transformed into something
that I never thought would actually be what it is.
So yeah, it's definitely one of those things that And
I love that you said it's not about perfection, because
like I was s telling you earlier, this show is
definitely not about perfection. It's really about just getting the
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information out and helping and bring resources to people that
need it the most, and or just hear the stories
of the journeys and knowing that you're not alone through
whatever you're going through.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
So exactly, and I shared what I do now, but
if I make Kelly, I want to share more of
a personal experience with it too. Is that okay, Yeah,
absolutely okay. I grew up personally with a growth mindset.
I was an athlete. Anything I did in sports I conquered,
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did great. So I was on top of my game
a lot mentally and wanted to do better, get better
all of that. But I can share this now with
more passion and deep desire because I wasn't always here either.
I had a time three years ago, four years ago
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actually that I reached my end too. I couldn't to
see the forest through the trees and perfection. Puh. I
remember one person telling me one time, just get through
the day, You'll be okay, You'll be okay.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
And I looked at her.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
And I just did the smile and nod, and in
my mind, I'm like, sweetheart, I am looking to get
my next breath, to take my next breath. I don't
even want to take my next breath. For you to
tell me to get.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Through a whole day, that's not even possible for me today.
And so even though I had people around me too,
at that point, I couldn't. I couldn't pull from anywhere.
I had one person that day, exactly that day, that
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came to me and helped and kind of got me
back on a path. But when you get to certain
mindsets too, and you don't have either a base or
an outreach or community, and it doesn't have to be
a lot of people. Just listening to your podcasts, having
somebody to call, or hearing other people's stories helps you know.
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Perfection out the window.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Let's work on practical skills to get through either that
next breath, take that next breath, and that next one
and that next one to get you to the next day,
to the next week, to the next month, year and
so forth, but not only just staying at neutral, like
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getting to that next level. And I think that's what
it's so powerful too. And I appreciate you and all
you went through to get here, because there's so many
people that you don't might not even know, or will
never know, that are touched by just having this video
this exact day or that exact moment. And that's what
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we need to remember is reaching out telling a friend, hey,
how are you? Because mental health comes in so many
different forms, so many different ways, different ages, different scenarios,
different outcomes, and so creating those empathetic spaces too to
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say I'm here for you now because I love this,
This is my passion, like you said, my passion purpose
because I get it. I've been there, I get it.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, And I think, I mean, that's just important to
remember that some people are just trying to get that
next breath right. It's not about and the words that
come into my head is that false hope of getting
to the next day, right. You don't know if it's
going to be better tomorrow, Like we have no idea.
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Everybody experiences things so differently that we have to remember
that too, is that my experience is going to be
completely different than your experience, and everybody experiences even if
they're similar in nature, it's all different because we're all
different humans. And so understanding just that like one thing right,
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like and it literally could be one person in somebody's
life that makes that moment that they need at the
most able to get through to get to that next breath.
So thank you for sharing that also, And I think
that's really really important to understand is that even at
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the top of your game, no matter where you are,
no matter what you're doing, you can and may have
those moments that you're just looking to try to get
through the next breath.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Right, and the blood sweat and tears are kind of
coming out. It may be hard, it may be something
you're not but through that experience, I am writing a
book called fifteen Degrees of Hope. And that's exactly what
it was for me. It was I and this is
the title of it. If you think of the letter
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h it has a little line in between it, right.
If you move that letter or that line fifteen degrees,
it spells the word nope. So I went from hope
to nope and then with that one person, and there
were a couple of people around me afterwards, but that
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one person brought me back up to hope. Those fifteen
degrees of I need hope. I can do this one
step at a time. So I would have never I mean,
I thought about writing a book, but I never had
the content like I do now. And it's just life
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changing to get through that with help, for sure, with.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Help, that's awesome. Congratulates on writing your book. And I
love I mean that analogy. It's yeah, you just move
it fifteen degrees and it's a completely different word. I
actually made me think about I volunteered at the teTeX
event recently and one of the ladies on stage she
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talked about the word evolution and ultimately, if you look
at it backwards, it's it's like you like love for yourself.
I'm like saying it completely wrong, but if you turn
it around, it's like how you love yourself. Ultimately, you
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can break it down the word evolution because the front
half of it at least says love and then it's
like self love. So I love the the play on
words and how they can shift and if you look
at them backwards verse four words. And I think that's
incredible that you're writing that book too, So I'm excited
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to learn more and see when that comes out. Thank you. Yeah,
and I love I mean just being able to write
a book and being able to get people to the
next level and all of the things that you do.
And I know we're continuing the journey through the holidays
right now and times can potentially be really stressful for
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a lot of people. Do you have any thoughts or
tips or tricks that may be centered around holidays and
getting to that next level.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, they can be hard times for the stress and
the hustle and bustle all the reasons. Making sure you
have the right gifts. Maybe you've lost someone. So there's
a lot of feels, a lot of feels, a lot
of joy with a new year coming too, So acknowledging
both sides of the tough and the good, I think,
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without having to do intense work right now, right here,
I think honoring yourself is the first thing that comes
to mind in these times. So if going for a
walk gets you that refresh fresh air, exercise, go for
a walk, listening to music, maybe even having your favorite
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dinner or calling a friend, reading a book, find that
one thing, just one thing, simple thing that honors you. Now,
I'm gonna check this because when we hear the word selfish,
we think, oh, that's bad. You can't be selfish. My
mom she was. She gave and gave and gave. She
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was a wonderful nurse. This is in the book. But
when we'd go to the grocery stores, we'd see people
around town. I'm from Iowa, and they would say, you know,
Mary Anne, you saved my mom's life.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Oh, Mary Anne, we love you so much. You did
so much.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
She gave and gave and gave. So for me to
be saying be selfish, my mother is smiling yet turning
over in her grave right now, because the point of
being selfish is to honor yourself, and once you honor
yourself in taking that time, you in turn can become
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a better person to give back as well.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
But it's gotta start here, and it's gotta first be okay,
if it's a half an hour walk, if it's a
week's vacation on the beach, let's say that, whatever it is,
be selfish, do that one thing for yourself, and fill
you first with the goodness. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
That's actually lately a lot of things that I've been
talking about are really centered around like self care or
self love, putting your own oxygen mask on, like they
tell you when you get onto the airplane, because you
can't take care of others if you're not taking care
of yourself. And so I love the being selfish and
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getting the fresh air. I think that's really really important.
To another one that if anybody subscribed to the BCC
Evolution newsletter, I put five ways to de stress during
the holidays, and getting fresh air was one of those,
because you don't think about sitting in your house or
in a building, and the recycle there can actually be
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bad for you. But I do also know the flip
side of Some people are like, if another person tells
me to go for a walk, I'm gonna get really upset.
So there's like both aspects, right, But I think it's
important to just remember that to be selfish and it's
okay to be that way, to be able to give
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to more people.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
And knowing what it is. It doesn't have to be
a walk. It could be the meditation the time. And
I heard something really cool recently because I love to
I don't read books. I listen to books because my
learning style is auditory, so I read books through auditory means.
I was listening to a book last week and he
talked about starting a new habit, and sometimes it's hard.
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I'll try to start a new habit and at the
end of the day I'll think, gosh, I forgot all
about that. What is the deal? But he had great advice, saying,
stack habits. So if you're doing something regularly, you get up,
you brush your teeth. When you brush your teeth, take
sixty seconds one minute to meditate when you're done. So
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stack a new habit onto a reoccurring habit that you're
already doing.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
That's a good yeah, because I mean I always I'm like,
most of the stuff that I do online, Like I'm
a I'm a forever learner too, but most of the
stuff that I do is online now, So I do
think about that even when I'm like in the bathroom
getting ready, I'm like, well, I can listen to these
while I'm brushing my teeth or doing my hair, putting
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on my makeup or whatever. So yeah, that's that's a
really great point. I didn't think about it as stacking
in like a new habit on top of another.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Mm hm, just remember.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Right, yeah, and memory can be challenging to you.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
I would love if anybody wants to work with you
or well first anything that you want to share that
we didn't talk about yet.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Nope. I just been so thankful even to be here,
and I applaud you and again thank you for being
in the industry and sharing your love and passion because
we all need it, I think no matter where we are.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Oh well, thank you. I appreciate that I have fun.
I love doing mental health mondays and bringing on other people,
and I love the synergy. I know when you and
I first talked, there was a lot of synergy between
what we do both, and I just love the collaborations
and the potential of, you know, creating this resource for
other people because maybe I'm not the right one for them,
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maybe you are. You're right. So there's so many different
people that people can reach out to to get resources through.
And if they want to work with you, how can
they find you?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
You can find me at the next Level lady dot com.
That's my website. You can sign up there. I love
to do motivational talks. You can click right there that link.
So it's either talking in a large group, a small group,
or one on one, whatever your need is. I'm very flexible,
but also personalizing is important to me, so one on one,
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small groups, large groups, or even motivational talk as well.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Awesome. Yes, and that her website is right below here.
It's also in the comments, so if you don't remember
and don't want to fast forward back to this place,
you can always look in the comments. But I think
it is. I mean, it's important. All the things that
we talked about, really, like the growth mindset, how to
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get to that next level. It's about your mindset and
being selfish to be able to take care of others.
You have to be able to take care of yourself.
And again, I just love the synergy and how you
help people get to that next level because it's not
glamorous by any means. It can be really really hard
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and really really challenging. But you don't have to go
at it alone. You have people mentors. I mean even myself,
I have multiple mentors. You have mentors. Right, we're coaches,
but we still have people that mentor us because we
can't do it alone either, and it's helpful to have
people that can really raise you up, break you down,
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and how do we do that. We can do it together.
So I really appreciate you coming on, especially at the
last minute, to be my guest, and I'm so glad
that we were able to do this now first waiting.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
So I agree, thank you. It has been my pleasure.
I love it awesome.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Well, thank you so much again, y'all. That was another
amazing episode of Mental Health Mondays where we talk to
guests who are either professionals in the mental health space,
advocates of mental health, or those that live with or
experience a mental health challenge. And you can be a
guest too, if you've been watching this for quite some
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Just look up Mental Health Monday's podcast show. And a
couple of things I just want to bring up really quickly,
if you didn't have a chance during Giving Tuesday to
give to a nonprofit charity. Of course I would absolutely
love for you to donate to BCC Evolution, but either way,
please find a charity that you can still give to.
Most all charities still have their fundraisers open. Tomorrow is
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also Colorado Gives Day. Unfortunately, BCC Evolution is not a
part of that day yet because you have to be
incorporated or an official nonprofit for five years in Colorado.
We're going into our fifth year next year, so I
can actually sign up next year for Colorado Gives. But
if you are in Colorado and you have a favorite
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charity that is a part of Colorado Gives, please donate
because your support helps even the smallest charities we need
it the most. But there's a way that you can
give to BCC Evolution. Now. We are doing our climb
for the Mind event next year, and if you didn't
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hear me talk about it, you can go watch last
week because I did a whole thing on it. But
ultimately it is a climb that myself and my friend
Philip Philip Arnoff are doing. We're going to be climbing
the mountain in Salt Lake, not Salt Lake, but in
Utah thirteen times up, down, up, down, So you go
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up and then you gondola down, you climb up, gone,
tol down. Ultimately you are going twenty nine oh twenty
nine feet, which equals Mount Everest. So it's going to
be mentally, physically, emotionally challenging, especially for me, something that
I've never ever ever done, and I should probably start
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working out, uh, But we need your support to fund
that and we're raising funds for mental health and suicide
prevention education. So all you have to do is text
this number climb for mind to four four three two one,
or you can even go to our give lively page
or just go to bcc evolution dot org forward slash
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donate it'll take you there too. And if you want
to find out more about this event, it's the twenty
nine oh twenty nine Everesting dot com. It is oh
challenging and I am really excited to be able to
showcase people's name businesses. If you are an individual and
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you donate one hundred dollars or more, you get the
chance to put somebody's name on our t shirts that
we're going to be wearing that will showcase them. I'm
also going to be collecting stories so that every time
I go live, while I'm on the mountain and before that,
with these shows, I will be able to shout out
those people and give their stories as we go along.
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If you're a business and you donate one thousand dollars
or more, you get the chance to put your logo
on the backs of our shirts so that we can
showcase your business as a sponsor. So again one hundred
dollars or more gets a chance to put a name
or multiple names on our shirt inside our logos. You
also get to tell us their story and why their
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name is part of our shirts. So if it's somebody
that you've lost by suicide, substance abuse, or another mental
health challenge, those are the names that we're really wanting
to showcase so that we can really support mental health education.
And then again, if you're a business, one thousand dollars
or more donations get your logo on the back. So
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that's all that's all I got for you, So thank
you so much for watching. Make sure you come back
next Monday, same time, same place. By y'all,
Welcome to another episode of Mental Health Mondays, where we
talk to guests who are either professionals in the mental
health space, advocates of mental health, or those that live
with or experience a mental health challenge. And I am
really excited to bring on my guests today and we're
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we do, is so that we can get resources to
those that need it the most by sharing guest stories.
And so, without further ado, I am going to bring
on Deb. Thank you Deb so much for joining me today.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
You're welcome, Kelly, thank you so much for having me here.
It's such an honor and a pleasure to even share
our passions in this space.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Absolutely, and I be honest, I totally kind of threw
Deb in today because my original guest had to have
a change of plans, and so I am so thank
well that you could jump on last minute.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Absolutely, flexibility is key for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yes, definitely. Well, tell the audience a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Well, thank you again for having me. My name's deb
Gegaakau and I like to coin myself as the next
level lady. But I holp people discover and dissolve limiting
beliefs so that they can advance their life, live to
the next level, but also live a life they love awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
And so with I know, I mean kind of with
my background too, is a lot of those limiting beliefs
that come up. Like what are those type of things
that you see the most often often.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Well, sometimes it's hard to even identify at first, Kelly,
because we have a thought pattern where we think a
lot of things in our head and then we talk
a lot of talk to ourselves, and that's where negativity
can fester and build, because then it gets into a subconscious.
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So our conscious is where we think, and then it
gets into a subconscious where we just kind of go
about our business in a methodical way, not even knowing
why we do what we do until hopefully someone either
connects with us, kind of cues us back in, sets
us straight. But somehow we get back to a neutral
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ground of HM asking ourselves, why why do I do that?
Where does that come from?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yes, I know that those creep in more often than not.
And what made you?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Like?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
What got you into this work?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
That's a great question too, because I have done it
for years without even knowing. Really I'm an educator. I
have an education background. I've been in the schools, in
the classrooms for years. The last ten years of my
education career was in special education, and I was in
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the classroom and really loved being an advocate, really loved
problem solving, but mostly helping everybody involved, family, students, teachers,
everybody in the classroom, service providers. And it just came
very naturally to me. So I loved being able to help.
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A lot of my friends came to me for advice,
and again, this naturally came out, and then they would
be happy, they'd walk away and call me back if
they needed anything else. But I could just see growth,
and I could see people being better in their lives
and wanting more and getting more, and it just inspired
me to keep going.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
That's awesome. Yeah, it's definitely, I mean one of those
things that you maybe didn't plan on pursuing, but as
things start to unfold, it's like this journey that kind
of just gets put in front of your face and
you're like, okay, well, I guess this is kind of what.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I'm doing exactly. And I have a very much I
have a very big growth mindset, so's it's inspiring to
me and I love to grow lifelong learner. So sharing
that passion in my gifts with other people is so
fulfilling in my life for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah. Absolutely. And so growth mindset, I know that's something
that I have this hair that's like driving me crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Sorry, I hate that.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I know. Growth mindset is one of those things that
we do and we don't talk about very often. I
know it was introduced to me when I was in
a corporate job and it was actually the first time
I had heard it in all of my career, and
I was like, oh, wow, like this makes so much
more sense to me. So can you share a little
bit about like what's the difference between a growth mindset
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and a fixed mindset?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So if you think about a plant potted in a
small that plant is only going to grow as big
or as small as its roots are allowed. So a
fixed mindset would be a small pot. But a plant
needs to grow further. So it's either going to maintain
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this small or confined area and not glow grow, or
it's going to die. If you pot plant that in
a bigger pot, those roots will grow and flourish, and
that underground growth then brings this beautiful blossom of what
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could be.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Growth isn't easy, though, Growth, I tell a lot of
my friends hard is sometimes I think, oh, heart is bad.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I don't want to do hard hard it's too hard.
But heart is good and easy is hard.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, it's definitely. I mean even with I like the
plant analogy excuse me, plant analogy because and we were
also we talked about flexibility. It's a lot of that.
I mean, with a growth mindset, you have more flexibility.
And ultimately, I know in some of the practices that
I do, the more flexible you can be, you actually
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have more control. And that's kind of I mean, if
you think of it in the plant terms, is they
have more control to be able to grow bigger when
they have more flexibility. So I love that analogy.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Thank you, And isn't it true? Though? Flexibility kind of
goes right along with vulnerability, and vulnerability can be scary
at times. I think of the growth story of a lobster,
though too, have you heard that one?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I haven't.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Okay, it's it's And when I was in the classroom,
we used to have the life cycle lessons, So we
have the caterpillars and we'd grow them up and feed them,
and then we'd see them in their cocoons and the
metamorphosis and the blood of the caterpillar rained down as
the caterpillar broke free and was a butterfly. So they're
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really cool. Kind of a similar analogy. But a lobster,
of course the body inside. The body is really squishy, right,
and the shell on the outside is hard. Well, what
happens when they grow They have to break out of
that shell and have a new one. But they can't
just break out in the middle of everywhere because then
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they're not protected. So they actually go down to the
bottom and find a rock to heightender in isolation so
that they can break their shell and still feel protected
so they're not too vulnerable for everybody. And then they
rebuild and come back up and now with us too
as we go through our life cycles, were a child
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or a toddler, then we get to elementary school. Of course,
as a teacher, I go through those timelines school, elementary school,
middle school, high school, college, or whatever happens after life
after high school. We break our shell a number of
times in our life process, whether we like it or not,
and sometimes more when we have a growth mindset.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I love that. So two things that I didn't know about.
One with the butterflies and how like the blood that
I had no idea like, I literally have not seen
the transformation of butterflies, so that's really something that I
can totally imagine. And then I love the lobster analogy too.
And I also didn't know that that they go down
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to the bottom and regrew their shell. That's really really
interesting to me. So yeah, wow.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I think of the butterfly analogy often when I work
with somebody that's right on the cusp of a ba
through because you can feel the tension. And another thing
on a side note, what I love to do is
create the empathetic spaces to say it's okay, it's okay,
but when they are at that moment of breakthrough or
that next level moment. It hurts and it's scary, and
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sometimes you just want to just stay in that cocoon.
I don't want to do it. I just I'm fine
with status quo. I'm fine with right here. But geez,
the beauty of that metamorphosis is amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, I know that. I mean, at least for me,
I've had multiple of those times throughout life. And like
I was saying, like, coming from the corporate job and
then I jumped into my nonprofit full time, and I
was it's one of those I always say, take the
leap of faith, and I was like, I gotta do this,
Like this has to happen, and I don't know how
the heck it's going to happen, but I've got to
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do it. And I did, and it was the scariest
thing I've ever done. And then jumping into a business
that you thought was really good base and then you
find out that it doesn't have a ton of structure
because it was really just a side project for so long,
and then you have to rebuild the business. And throughout
that time, it's like breaking through those different things of well,
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I really want to do this, but how do I
get to that point. And then also, I mean, I
just feel like there's so many different layers, especially as
an entrepreneur business owner, that you have to overcome and
figure out as you go. So yeah, I love those analogies.
Just thinking about the butterfly and the lobster and what
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is that next level that you're going to break through?
Like that's really really cool.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, trusting the process in that next level. And I
know that a lot of people have heard the enjoy
the journey, enjoy the journey, and I personally am like,
I don't like some parts of the journey. But my
coach I hired, I have coaches on my own as
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a life discovery coach. I hired a coach, and I
love the way he said, find joy in the journey
because you're not gonna you might not maybe some people do,
but you might not enjoy at all, and that's okay,
But find joy in the journey.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I like that too, because it definitely are I mean,
the journey of entrepreneurship, business owner, all of that stuff
is you think that it's going to go one way
and then most of the time you get like slapped
in the face and are like nope, that's not actually
how it happens, and so it is it's finding that
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journey or finding the joy in the journey. I love
how you said that, because there are those little moments
that you're like, oh wow, like I did that or
oh wow, that happened, and you should be proud of
those moments instead of For me, what was happening was
I was searching and searching and like layering and layering
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and layering, and then one day it was like it
was almost like the Lobster, right, Like I had to
go down and break through and be like, I've got
to release some of this to be able to do
this instead of all of it, because I can't do
all of it, and so I had to release some
things that were not serving me so that I could
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better serve my mission and my purpose and all of that.
And so it's like literally I'm like, oh, I'm just
thinking about the lobster, and I'm like breaking through and
letting go and creating new so that I can hold
on to what actually matters, so.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Right, and letting go of whatever perfection is. I don't
like that in my vocabulary, because we're all transforming and
becoming new think in our thoughts and our words and
our deeds, So letting go of that. It's got to
be one way, a perfect way before I get started,
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Like even with BCC evolution, for your sister's honor.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Whatever you do is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Getting her name out, never forgetting to say her name,
to have her in conversations. That's it. It doesn't matter
what you do and how you do it. The mission
is there. And look at how fre you come. How
cool is this through it all?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, it's definitely. I mean, well, I mean it started
as a passion project and then really transformed into something
that I never thought would actually be what it is.
So yeah, it's definitely one of those things that And
I love that you said it's not about perfection, because
like I was s telling you earlier, this show is
definitely not about perfection. It's really about just getting the
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information out and helping and bring resources to people that
need it the most, and or just hear the stories
of the journeys and knowing that you're not alone through
whatever you're going through.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
So exactly, and I shared what I do now, but
if I make Kelly, I want to share more of
a personal experience with it too. Is that okay, Yeah,
absolutely okay. I grew up personally with a growth mindset.
I was an athlete. Anything I did in sports I conquered,
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did great. So I was on top of my game
a lot mentally and wanted to do better, get better
all of that. But I can share this now with
more passion and deep desire because I wasn't always here either.
I had a time three years ago, four years ago
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actually that I reached my end too. I couldn't to
see the forest through the trees and perfection. Puh. I
remember one person telling me one time, just get through
the day, You'll be okay, You'll be okay.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
And I looked at her.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
And I just did the smile and nod, and in
my mind, I'm like, sweetheart, I am looking to get
my next breath, to take my next breath. I don't
even want to take my next breath. For you to
tell me to get.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Through a whole day, that's not even possible for me today.
And so even though I had people around me too,
at that point, I couldn't. I couldn't pull from anywhere.
I had one person that day, exactly that day, that
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came to me and helped and kind of got me
back on a path. But when you get to certain
mindsets too, and you don't have either a base or
an outreach or community, and it doesn't have to be
a lot of people. Just listening to your podcasts, having
somebody to call, or hearing other people's stories helps you know.
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Perfection out the window.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Let's work on practical skills to get through either that
next breath, take that next breath, and that next one
and that next one to get you to the next day,
to the next week, to the next month, year and
so forth, but not only just staying at neutral, like
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getting to that next level. And I think that's what
it's so powerful too. And I appreciate you and all
you went through to get here, because there's so many
people that you don't might not even know, or will
never know, that are touched by just having this video
this exact day or that exact moment. And that's what
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we need to remember is reaching out telling a friend, hey,
how are you? Because mental health comes in so many
different forms, so many different ways, different ages, different scenarios,
different outcomes, and so creating those empathetic spaces too to
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say I'm here for you now because I love this,
This is my passion, like you said, my passion purpose
because I get it. I've been there, I get it.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, And I think, I mean, that's just important to
remember that some people are just trying to get that
next breath right. It's not about and the words that
come into my head is that false hope of getting
to the next day, right. You don't know if it's
going to be better tomorrow, Like we have no idea.
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Everybody experiences things so differently that we have to remember
that too, is that my experience is going to be
completely different than your experience, and everybody experiences even if
they're similar in nature, it's all different because we're all
different humans. And so understanding just that like one thing right,
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like and it literally could be one person in somebody's
life that makes that moment that they need at the
most able to get through to get to that next breath.
So thank you for sharing that also, And I think
that's really really important to understand is that even at
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the top of your game, no matter where you are,
no matter what you're doing, you can and may have
those moments that you're just looking to try to get
through the next breath.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Right, and the blood sweat and tears are kind of
coming out. It may be hard, it may be something
you're not but through that experience, I am writing a
book called fifteen Degrees of Hope. And that's exactly what
it was for me. It was I and this is
the title of it. If you think of the letter
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h it has a little line in between it, right.
If you move that letter or that line fifteen degrees,
it spells the word nope. So I went from hope
to nope and then with that one person, and there
were a couple of people around me afterwards, but that
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one person brought me back up to hope. Those fifteen
degrees of I need hope. I can do this one
step at a time. So I would have never I mean,
I thought about writing a book, but I never had
the content like I do now. And it's just life
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changing to get through that with help, for sure, with.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Help, that's awesome. Congratulates on writing your book. And I
love I mean that analogy. It's yeah, you just move
it fifteen degrees and it's a completely different word. I
actually made me think about I volunteered at the teTeX
event recently and one of the ladies on stage she
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talked about the word evolution and ultimately, if you look
at it backwards, it's it's like you like love for yourself.
I'm like saying it completely wrong, but if you turn
it around, it's like how you love yourself. Ultimately, you
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can break it down the word evolution because the front
half of it at least says love and then it's
like self love. So I love the the play on
words and how they can shift and if you look
at them backwards verse four words. And I think that's
incredible that you're writing that book too, So I'm excited
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to learn more and see when that comes out. Thank you. Yeah,
and I love I mean just being able to write
a book and being able to get people to the
next level and all of the things that you do.
And I know we're continuing the journey through the holidays
right now and times can potentially be really stressful for
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a lot of people. Do you have any thoughts or
tips or tricks that may be centered around holidays and
getting to that next level.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, they can be hard times for the stress and
the hustle and bustle all the reasons. Making sure you
have the right gifts. Maybe you've lost someone. So there's
a lot of feels, a lot of feels, a lot
of joy with a new year coming too, So acknowledging
both sides of the tough and the good, I think,
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without having to do intense work right now, right here,
I think honoring yourself is the first thing that comes
to mind in these times. So if going for a
walk gets you that refresh fresh air, exercise, go for
a walk, listening to music, maybe even having your favorite
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dinner or calling a friend, reading a book, find that
one thing, just one thing, simple thing that honors you. Now,
I'm gonna check this because when we hear the word selfish,
we think, oh, that's bad. You can't be selfish. My
mom she was. She gave and gave and gave. She
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was a wonderful nurse. This is in the book. But
when we'd go to the grocery stores, we'd see people
around town. I'm from Iowa, and they would say, you know,
Mary Anne, you saved my mom's life.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Oh, Mary Anne, we love you so much. You did
so much.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
She gave and gave and gave. So for me to
be saying be selfish, my mother is smiling yet turning
over in her grave right now, because the point of
being selfish is to honor yourself, and once you honor
yourself in taking that time, you in turn can become
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a better person to give back as well.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
But it's gotta start here, and it's gotta first be okay,
if it's a half an hour walk, if it's a
week's vacation on the beach, let's say that, whatever it is,
be selfish, do that one thing for yourself, and fill
you first with the goodness. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
That's actually lately a lot of things that I've been
talking about are really centered around like self care or
self love, putting your own oxygen mask on, like they
tell you when you get onto the airplane, because you
can't take care of others if you're not taking care
of yourself. And so I love the being selfish and
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getting the fresh air. I think that's really really important.
To another one that if anybody subscribed to the BCC
Evolution newsletter, I put five ways to de stress during
the holidays, and getting fresh air was one of those,
because you don't think about sitting in your house or
in a building, and the recycle there can actually be
(25:32):
bad for you. But I do also know the flip
side of Some people are like, if another person tells
me to go for a walk, I'm gonna get really upset.
So there's like both aspects, right, But I think it's
important to just remember that to be selfish and it's
okay to be that way, to be able to give
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to more people.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
And knowing what it is. It doesn't have to be
a walk. It could be the meditation the time. And
I heard something really cool recently because I love to
I don't read books. I listen to books because my
learning style is auditory, so I read books through auditory means.
I was listening to a book last week and he
talked about starting a new habit, and sometimes it's hard.
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I'll try to start a new habit and at the
end of the day I'll think, gosh, I forgot all
about that. What is the deal? But he had great advice, saying,
stack habits. So if you're doing something regularly, you get up,
you brush your teeth. When you brush your teeth, take
sixty seconds one minute to meditate when you're done. So
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stack a new habit onto a reoccurring habit that you're
already doing.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
That's a good yeah, because I mean I always I'm like,
most of the stuff that I do online, Like I'm
a I'm a forever learner too, but most of the
stuff that I do is online now, So I do
think about that even when I'm like in the bathroom
getting ready, I'm like, well, I can listen to these
while I'm brushing my teeth or doing my hair, putting
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on my makeup or whatever. So yeah, that's that's a
really great point. I didn't think about it as stacking
in like a new habit on top of another.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Mm hm, just remember.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Right, yeah, and memory can be challenging to you.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
I would love if anybody wants to work with you
or well first anything that you want to share that
we didn't talk about yet.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Nope. I just been so thankful even to be here,
and I applaud you and again thank you for being
in the industry and sharing your love and passion because
we all need it, I think no matter where we are.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Oh well, thank you. I appreciate that I have fun.
I love doing mental health mondays and bringing on other people,
and I love the synergy. I know when you and
I first talked, there was a lot of synergy between
what we do both, and I just love the collaborations
and the potential of, you know, creating this resource for
other people because maybe I'm not the right one for them,
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maybe you are. You're right. So there's so many different
people that people can reach out to to get resources through.
And if they want to work with you, how can
they find you?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
You can find me at the next Level lady dot com.
That's my website. You can sign up there. I love
to do motivational talks. You can click right there that link.
So it's either talking in a large group, a small group,
or one on one, whatever your need is. I'm very flexible,
but also personalizing is important to me, so one on one,
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small groups, large groups, or even motivational talk as well.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Awesome. Yes, and that her website is right below here.
It's also in the comments, so if you don't remember
and don't want to fast forward back to this place,
you can always look in the comments. But I think
it is. I mean, it's important. All the things that
we talked about, really, like the growth mindset, how to
(29:16):
get to that next level. It's about your mindset and
being selfish to be able to take care of others.
You have to be able to take care of yourself.
And again, I just love the synergy and how you
help people get to that next level because it's not
glamorous by any means. It can be really really hard
(29:39):
and really really challenging. But you don't have to go
at it alone. You have people mentors. I mean even myself,
I have multiple mentors. You have mentors. Right, we're coaches,
but we still have people that mentor us because we
can't do it alone either, and it's helpful to have
people that can really raise you up, break you down,
(30:01):
and how do we do that. We can do it together.
So I really appreciate you coming on, especially at the
last minute, to be my guest, and I'm so glad
that we were able to do this now first waiting.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
So I agree, thank you. It has been my pleasure.
I love it awesome.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Well, thank you so much again, y'all. That was another
amazing episode of Mental Health Mondays where we talk to
guests who are either professionals in the mental health space,
advocates of mental health, or those that live with or
experience a mental health challenge. And you can be a
guest too, if you've been watching this for quite some
(30:42):
time and you want to be a guest. There's information
in the comments below. If you're watching this on YouTube again,
make sure you subscribe so that you don't miss another episode,
or if it's on LinkedIn or Facebook. And keep in
mind we are across seven different platforms now, so if
watching is not your thing, you want to just I'm
calling no listen. If you want to just listen, then
(31:06):
you can go to It's on Spotify, Apple, iHeartRadio, Google Play,
Anchor FM, Amazon, and Audible. So those are the seven
seven seven see not about perfection, see seven channels that
you can actually listen and go subscribe to any of those.
(31:28):
Just look up Mental Health Monday's podcast show. And a
couple of things I just want to bring up really quickly,
if you didn't have a chance during Giving Tuesday to
give to a nonprofit charity. Of course I would absolutely
love for you to donate to BCC Evolution, but either way,
please find a charity that you can still give to.
Most all charities still have their fundraisers open. Tomorrow is
(31:52):
also Colorado Gives Day. Unfortunately, BCC Evolution is not a
part of that day yet because you have to be
incorporated or an official nonprofit for five years in Colorado.
We're going into our fifth year next year, so I
can actually sign up next year for Colorado Gives. But
if you are in Colorado and you have a favorite
(32:13):
charity that is a part of Colorado Gives, please donate
because your support helps even the smallest charities we need
it the most. But there's a way that you can
give to BCC Evolution. Now. We are doing our climb
for the Mind event next year, and if you didn't
(32:34):
hear me talk about it, you can go watch last
week because I did a whole thing on it. But
ultimately it is a climb that myself and my friend
Philip Philip Arnoff are doing. We're going to be climbing
the mountain in Salt Lake, not Salt Lake, but in
Utah thirteen times up, down, up, down, So you go
(32:56):
up and then you gondola down, you climb up, gone,
tol down. Ultimately you are going twenty nine oh twenty
nine feet, which equals Mount Everest. So it's going to
be mentally, physically, emotionally challenging, especially for me, something that
I've never ever ever done, and I should probably start
(33:18):
working out, uh, But we need your support to fund
that and we're raising funds for mental health and suicide
prevention education. So all you have to do is text
this number climb for mind to four four three two one,
or you can even go to our give lively page
or just go to bcc evolution dot org forward slash
(33:42):
donate it'll take you there too. And if you want
to find out more about this event, it's the twenty
nine oh twenty nine Everesting dot com. It is oh
challenging and I am really excited to be able to
showcase people's name businesses. If you are an individual and
(34:03):
you donate one hundred dollars or more, you get the
chance to put somebody's name on our t shirts that
we're going to be wearing that will showcase them. I'm
also going to be collecting stories so that every time
I go live, while I'm on the mountain and before that,
with these shows, I will be able to shout out
those people and give their stories as we go along.
(34:27):
If you're a business and you donate one thousand dollars
or more, you get the chance to put your logo
on the backs of our shirts so that we can
showcase your business as a sponsor. So again one hundred
dollars or more gets a chance to put a name
or multiple names on our shirt inside our logos. You
also get to tell us their story and why their
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name is part of our shirts. So if it's somebody
that you've lost by suicide, substance abuse, or another mental
health challenge, those are the names that we're really wanting
to showcase so that we can really support mental health education.
And then again, if you're a business, one thousand dollars
or more donations get your logo on the back. So
(35:10):
that's all that's all I got for you, So thank
you so much for watching. Make sure you come back
next Monday, same time, same place. By y'all,
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