June 3, 2025 • 40 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
Welcome to another episode of Mental Health Mondays, where we
talk to guests who are either professionals in the mental
health space, advocates of mental health, or those that live
with or experience a mental health challenge. And just as
a reminder, if you are watching this on YouTube, make
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(01:12):
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you do that. So, without further ado, I am going
to bring up my guests for today, which I'm super excited.
Doctor Kylie, welcome, Thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Thanks Kelly, I'm happy to be on YAY.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
So I would love for you to just share a
little bit with the audience. What do you do?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Okay? So, by degree, I'm a chiropractor. I don't like
a trusting though, so I'm a functional medicine expert, and
what that means is I get to the underlying causes
of health concerns. And today we're going to talk about
blood work and on normal blood work and what we
should really be looking for inside that blood work and
(02:03):
how it correlates and not correlates, about how it can
cause anxiety and depression.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah. I remember actually one of the first times, other
than being in a Mastermind group with you, I saw
your tiktoks. That's where I like originally started really following
what you were doing, and it was just so fascinating
the way that you talk.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
About blood work in general.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
So I'm really excited to have this conversation, but I'm curious,
like what got you into this.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I was a Western medicine girl my whole life. When
we got sick, we went and got an antibiotic because
that was the thing that we did. It's just what
we knew. I got into college and I really loved
this idea of nutrition helping solve our health concerns. So
I got my bachelor's degree in nutrition, and then I
realized that was just the first step. But if I
(02:55):
didn't know what that step next step was, So I
took a year off started searching around for jobs, and
during that search I got hired as an assistant to
a local chiropractor. I knew nothing about chiropractic, I knew
nothing about functional medicine, but I loved it and it
just made so much sense. Why don't we use this more,
(03:16):
especially in the chronic scenarios. So I decided that I
should just go get that early expensive piece of paper
and start helping people the way I can help them.
So I did. I went off to chiropractic school. If
I were to do everything over, I would go do
But I don't want to go back to school. So
(03:37):
we're going to do chiropractic and specializing in functional medicine,
which is my jam. And then I discovered functional medicine
lab tests can be really expensive. Do we really need them?
Took me down a whole long route of how do
I help clients save money but yet still get answers
(04:01):
that I need to help make sure that they get
the results that they're looking for. So I took the
blood work that we already have, the CBC, the metabolic panel,
of the thyroid, panel, of the lipid panel, of all
the stuff that we get from our doctor's office just
on like regular checkups. How do I take those normal
blood work markers and turn them into answers? Took lots
(04:26):
and lots of different trainings on it kind of mashed
my own methods together, especially after saying thousands of labs
and now that's what I tell people. I teach people
how to read their own blood work a better way.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
That's amazing. It is.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I mean a lot of times they tell you what
it is right and you're like, Okay, I have no
idea what the heck you just said. But or they're like, oh, yeah,
everything is normal, and you're like, well, I don't really
feel normal, like I know something's going on, but everything
says that I'm normal.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
So yeah, that's really interesting.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, let's talk about the normal labranges here. Let's just
jump right in. Yeah, so the normal labranges are these big,
long lab ranges that are determined based off of thousands
of quote healthy individuals in the area, meaning they don't
have a diagnosis, or the way that they come up
(05:23):
with them is just sad. Honestly, you're literally comparing yourself
to other unhealthy individuals in the area. So what we
want to do is we want to say, let's do
the normal labyranges and let's make them smaller, so that way,
if we fall outside of this range, now we don't
feel good, but not bad enough to have a positive diagnosis.
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So give you an example. The TSH marker, the thyroid
stimulating hormone that is the most common lab test for thyroid.
Its normal lab range is zero point five to five
point five. That would be like trying to find your
favorite restaurant somewhere between California and New York. Good luck, right,
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Whereas we can take that lack range and condense it
that it's okay now instead of it being five point
five to five point five, it's one point eight to three.
If you fall within this range, now your thyroid's opt
functioning at a good level. Outside that range, there's a
reason why you feel fatigued, can't lose weight, hard time, sleeping,
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brain is going haywire, brain fog, and yet you're still
trying to figure out a diagnosis. What we've been believed
is the answer to our health concerns. Oh, once we
get a diagnosis, that's an answer. Is it no? Okay?
(06:59):
So taking the range and condensing into the functional ranges
and the guy who came up with those numbers, at
least the ones that I use. Our doctor Doty's carosium.
He's one of those guys that has five trillion letters
next to his name. Somebody had to do the research
and find the find the functional ranges for these. So
that's the that's the background and the difference between what
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you're seeing the doctor's range of blood work, and what
I'm gonna teach you. That makes sense.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, No, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I'm probably gonna have to come back even after we
talk and rewatch this and then look at my blood
work and you know, put it all together.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
So when it comes to anxiety and depression specifically, we're
gonna pay attention to a few markers. And those markers
are found inside the CBC with differential It is the
most common blood test we ever have had. It's like
the number one lap test everybody takes to just see
(08:03):
what's going on. Right now, Chances are you've been told
your work is normal. Thank goodness, because if it's not normal,
now I've got to go down rabbit holes of some
type of diagnosis. Okay, and I want to caveat this
and say I don't care what your diagnosis is. I
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don't care what your symptoms are. I want to know
how do I help your body get healthy? What does
your body need to get healthy? And as that happens,
your symptoms just go away and your diagnosis has become irrelevant.
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So I'll get questions like, hey, have you ever treated
anybody with POTS? Have you ever treated anybody with post
traumatic PTSD? Have you ever treated anybody like? The list
goes on, no, no, no, on, and I'm like, yeah, I have,
But I don't treat their POTS. I don't treat anxiety,
I don't treat depression. I treat them as a person.
(09:06):
I treat their bodies as a whole. Like our bodies
are incredible machines, multiple systems working together. We can't just
focus on the GI track from our gastro we can't
just focus on our hormones from our endocrinologists. We have
to focus on the whole body. And when we do that,
that's where magic happens.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I think that's I mean just in saying that, treating
the whole body and not I mean, like you said,
so often people get diagnosis and they're like, oh, that's
what's wrong with me? Right, it's like this label and
this thing that we become because somebody.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Told us that's what we are.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Right. So I think that's really important that you said
you treat the whole body. It's not the diagnosis, it's
not whatever is happening. It's we're now going to look
at things at an even smaller level.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, So what you are right now is just a
glimpse of time. So whether you had an eye anxiety,
a depression diagnosis, or PTSD or whatever it is, that's
just a matter of time right now. You can change
what life is like in five years if you want to.
So just think with that perspective of it's not a
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lifetime sentence. If you want it to be a lifetime
sentence and claim it as such, but it doesn't need
to be. Okay, okay, ready for some labs, yes, all right.
The CBC is the complete blood cell count. It is
a lab test, like I said, the most common lab
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test that we all get. And on that lab test,
there's two different versions of it. We have just the
CBC and then we had the CBC with differential. We're
going to cross all our fingers and their toes. That
when you go back to look at your blood worker
if you're looking at it right now as you're listening
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to this, that you have a CBC with differential. The
CBC is a lab test worth the price of pennies
if it doesn't have the differential differential makes it where
the lab tests worth the price of gold? And you're
going to find out right here. Okay, So on that
lab test, at the very top of the lab test,
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there's this white blood cell count WBC. That's a marker. Okay. Now,
I want you to think about all of these markers
and your blood work as pieces to your puzzle. The
more blood work, the more markers you have, the more
pieces to your puzzle. I'm going to teach you like
the big key pieces though, If you were to have
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a five hundred piece puzzle and four hundred and eighty
eight of them are one size, the little teeny ones,
and then there's twelve bigger pieces, we're gonna talk about
those for your bigger pieces of your puzzle. Okay, So
the white blood cell count WBC is the very top
marker inside the CBC making sense, yes, Okay, I don't
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know what the normal lab range is for that one,
but I can tell you what the functional ranges, and
that's the one that you want to pay attention to.
It's five to eight. So if your WBC is less
than five or greater than eight, your body's fighting some
type of infection. M This is the most common instigator
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or trigger of anxiety depression. Why because infections live within
our bodies. Your body is so busy trying to fight
these guys that it doesn't have energy for anything else depression,
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or it's so busy these guys that it doesn't take
very much to overstimulate you anxiety. Does that make sense, Kelly, Yeah, Okay,
Now that white blood cell marker, it's pretty good, but
it's not the best. Like you're gonna see your white
blood cell count it like five point two or seven
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point five, or maybe even dead in the middle at
like six point five or seven. But you always, always
always have to go down to the very bottom of
the test where you're gonna see five very very very
important markers. These are the biggest puzzle pieces in my opinion.
This is why the CBC with differential is so important,
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because that differential are these five markers. They're gonna help
determine what type of infection your body's dealing with, so
then we know what to treat on the back end. Okay,
follow me, yes, Okay. The neutrophil count, it starts with
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an N as a nancy, so neutraphils. The magic number
is sixty percent six zero. Okay. If it's less than sixty,
that's probably a good thing. If it's greater than sixty,
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we know your body is fighting at bacterial infection and
that's why you're struggling. Let me give you an example
of what this can look like. Okay, I got I
get a lot of people that say, my gut is
a wreck. I got bloating, I got constipation, I got diarrhea,
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I got I don't think I'm absorbing my food like
I am. My guts just I don't know what it's
gonna do on in a given day. Okay, this is
what leads to wrecked guts. Now, it can go as
far as IBS, IBD, crones, but ultimately there's too many
bad guys, bad bacteria, and not enough good guys. And
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depending upon what type of bad guys you have depends
on the type of gas that they produce. One type
of gas leads to chronic constipation, one type of gas
leads to diarrhea. So I had a fourteen year old
boy I worked with very early on in clinical practice,
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and he had so many gut issues, meaning diarrhea, Like
he would go to the bathroom five, six, seven times
a day that was normal for him. And he was
like eating rice and chicken like nothing, trying to fix
these issues as a fourteen year old. He wanted to
go to scout camp in the summertime, but he was
terrified because of one the food and two what was
(15:59):
his gig going to do? Has a major, major anxiety
depression because of what this what is gut was doing. Right,
So we took what we call the ce BOB test
Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. This is a breath test that
can determine what type of gas your body is producing,
whether it be constipation or the diarrhea gas. Now you
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can actually bypass that test and look at the neutrophil
count on your CBC. So you can save yourself too
hundred and fifty dollars of a functional medicine test just
by your regular blood work and saying, oh, I it's
that sixty eight percent my guts are wreck I've got
some anxiety and depression going on. I now know what's
leading what's causing that at least a big factor because
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remember it's all about puzzle pieces. One of those big
factors are the bacterial infections. So what we did we
used a couple of supplements for our space of three
four months, went off to scale camp, eating regularly. Final
I remember one time he came into my office and
I had a brick and mortar practice and he's like,
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it's like, Kylie, I feel constipated. Now, what do you
mean you're constipated? Now? How many times do you go
in the bathroom one time a day? That to him
was constipation because he was so used to having to
always be I mean he was homeschooled too, so he
could always be by the bathroom. So that's what we're
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looking at. Neutrophil count sixty percent or higher, bacterial infection. Okay,
Now there's really no way to determine fungal, but I
know off of thousands of labs I've seen, if there's
a bacterial infection, I'm going to treat fungal too. And
you can correlate this with I give you ever heard
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of people who have chronic UTIs, Like they get antibiotics
for uti, and then it comes back again in six months.
It's back again in a month, and it's like this
all the time. The antibiotic is taking care of the bacteria,
but not the co infection, the fungal Okay, take a
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big deep breath, because that was our first mark. The
second marker are the lymphocytes. Now this one is huge
for anxiety, depression and chronic fatigue. Lymphocytes their job is
to fight viruses. So if your lymphocytes are above a
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thirty percent, your body's binding a viral infection. I don't
know what type of virus it is, and I don't care,
because we're gonna treat with an anti viral and then
support the immune system with everything that it needs. So
neutrophil count sixty percent, lymphocyte count thirty percent, Okay, sixty third.
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That's a two to one ratio. Now, I know your
audience is smart, so I want to teach you the
most important ratio you need to know inside your blood work,
and it's between those exact same two markers. Okay, when
our numbers start to meet in the middle, So say
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we've got neutral fills at forty four percent and lympho
sites at forty percent. When they start to meet in
the middle, that's when we're fighting autoimmune. So even though
you might have a list of diagnosises or a lack
of an autoimmune isn't on there, and yet you're seeing
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the one to one ratio inside your blood work. Now
you know, oh, my immune system needs a lot of help.
Time I'm going to climb out of the hole that
I'm in right now is by helping my immune system.
Makes sense? Yeah, okay, Now, viruses and back to your infections.
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They can attack anything. It really depends upon what your
genes tell them to attack. So in my family it's Parkinson's,
they attack the spine. In someone else's family, it's hashimotos
they attacks the thyroid. In someone else's family, it's depression,
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it attacks the brain. Okay, so think about these infections
are underlying causes or triggers to your current health state.
When you remove them, that's when we say, oh, you
might be in this state now, but if you want
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to change, you can change it. You just got to
give your body what it needs. So in five years
you can live life. Even a year, you can live
life how you want and not be dependent or debilitated
by these diagnosies.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah, that's really cool. I was taking notes while you
were talking.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Sends with the blood work, right, yeah, Yeah, those are
the big, big, big pieces that if you know those
two markers, you know a lot. Now here's the other thing.
If you see your neutrophil count at sixty eight percent
or seventy two percent, don't go running to your doctor
saying that you have a bacterial affection. They're gonna laugh
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at you and they're gonna say, if you that's what
you think, let's test. They are gonna test for see
diff E coli campalow back to her, And unless you
like sitting on the toilet for the last thirty days
straight because you have one of these bacterial infections, it's
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gonna come back negative. Okay. These are low grade infections
that just go bypassed because we're not trained how to
read bloodbirk correctly. And then, as far as treatment is concerned,
antibiotics aren't going to solve these issues. So we have
to look at things in a different way in order
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to get different results.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Actually, I have a friend who she was positive for seediff.
As you said that, I was like, oh man, and
she just actually had to have a transplant to be able.
This is her second time that she had to have
a transplant.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
So yeah, if those things are positive, I mean it's major. Yeah,
really bad. This is more of the I've got IBS
or I'm sick of tire of being told I ibs.
No one can solve is shoes, or I'll give you
another weird case scenario with the neutrophil count, because these
can present in any way. It's just a matter of
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how is your body, what's the weak point in your body?
So I had a I was working with a young mom.
She woke up one morning with her shright shoulder not
being able to move it. Just got a toddler and
a baby can't lift them up because her shoulder is
now immovable. I saw her like four or five months
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after this began. She'd done the chiropractical massage therapy. They
were doing like injections everything to her shoulder, and I
was like, well, why would I keep doing the same
stuff that hasn't worked in the past. Did anybody along
the way take blood work on you? Oh? Yeah, my
primary care doctor took blood work on me, told me
it was normal. Great, go get it for me. It's
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like I'm kid on Christmas morning. Wait, you got blood
work in here? Told that it was normal. Perfect. So
she went to the doctor's office got her own blood work. Yes,
you guys can do that. Your blood work is yours.
In fact, if you have blood work already, request it.
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Find it in your patient portal. Anytime in the future
that you get blood work, ask for their prince, take
them home with you. They are it's your blood work.
You have a right to see them and use them.
So she went and got it, and I looked at
her nutra Phil Cowen and said eighty eight percent. Ooh,
that's really high. How on earth is a back to
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your infection stuck in her joint causing her shoulder to
not move? It makes no sense. But the only way
to find out is to treat. So we treated our
back to your infection with like three months of a
supplement regimen that I created for gone shoulders just fine,
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never touched your shoulder.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So they can present in all sorts of ways. It's
just a matter of what's your weak point in your body.
That's where it's gonna hang out.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
That's really interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
And I say that because there's a lot that's happened
in my family at least. But one thing that pops
into my head is at least when I'm talking about
mental health in general, is those baselines, like understanding your
baseline as a person and then understanding those around you.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
And so that's kind of reminded me what you were
talking about.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Is although we can be a normal range, right, we
still have our own baselines as to how our bodies function,
and we're all going to be different. So that was
something that popped into my head and I was like, oh,
you just confirmed that, you know, that's true with mental
health and health in general. And then I there's so
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many things going through my head because my son he.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Experienced seizures when he was younger.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Blood work everything perfectly normal, even they did cat scans
and EKGs or not ekg's but EEG's nothing. Everything was
perfectly normal, so there was nothing found. Ever, he hasn't
had them since he was a year and a half,
and so we put him on CBD, which a friend
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advised us to and so we tried that and he's
been seizure free ever since, which is great.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
So yeah, there's that normal of well, we can't find anything.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I don't know what to tell you, and that's frustrating
as a parent, of course.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
But he also experiences encropus that's how you say it.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Ultimately like a backup in his colon and so like
it uh like poop gets really hard and they can't
figure out why or what necessarily is causing it, and
it becomes a challenge.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
We call it a challenge.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
But same thing like when you were talking about the
fourteen year old, My son's seven, and it's hard, Like
it's hard as a parent to watch them like go
through that and then you do the cleanses, you do
everything that you can, and like they're it's like they
can't figure out why or what's happening other than labeling it,
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and so that can be frustrating.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
It's really like giving them capsules a swallow cat like
that's that's hard at that age. And then he's scared
to go to school, like it just affects everything in life.
It's yeah, I would be interested to see what his
blood work says.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I don't actually I'm thinking about I'm like, I don't
think we've ever gotten blood work, so that may be
something that I ask for.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I think it's older enough now too, because pulling blood
at one and a half is very difficult, where at
seven you have a little more control over him. Just
getting the veins could be a little tricky with the
small body, right. I've actually seen several blood work from
people who have quote epilepsy where they had the seizures
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and there's really no explanation onto what's causing them. And
the latest one. She's had multiple seizures in the last
i'd say a year now, and there's been a couple
of them where she's in the public and goes into
a seizure. One was on an airplane. They were able
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to land at their appropriate landing spot, but they had
an anambulance waiting right therefore hauled her off, took some blood,
which I love to get blood work in the moment.
It's like what was going on in the moment versus
what's going on you know two weeks later when they're fine,
because it's all of a sudden, Why is a body
just flipping into the seizure attack? And every single time
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she's had a blood work in the moment, her neutrophil
count is up. It's like in the eighties versus when
she just goes to like the neurologist and she's in
a total normal state, it's not it's the craziest thing.
So it's like we just have these different moments of
time to get blood work and compare and contrast what
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are the flares when it's normal. So now I just
have her on a regiment where we keep the bacterial
infection at bay and that's just like her her normal
daily thing now and it's not only helped the seizures,
but it's fixed her gut too. Now she's in her
mid twenties, so a little easier to treat at that age.
(29:53):
But with liquids, I mean, we could talk more because
there's a way, there's a there's some liquids that you
can apply topically that will help that bacteria that's causing
the constipation.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Mm hmm, yeah, I would love.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I'm like, we'll have to have a side jet no,
but I think that it's it's important to understand.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
And Oh, the question that was popping into my head is.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
I'm assuming you can go in and say, when you're
doing your lab work or whatever, you can ask for
the differentials.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Right, Yeah, that's a good question. So I have I
get this question asked all the time. Hey, I'm going
to my primary doctor. What do you want? What labs
should I ask for? Totally asked for labs. Now you
might have to be a little pushy about getting the
whole list, but make sure you get the list. So
write these down as you're listening. Okay, Number one, the
CBC with differential. Number two, the comprehensive metabolic panel. That
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metabolic panel, we can tell things like adrenal fatigue, leaky gut,
chemical intolerance. So again we're using normal blood work to
bypass functional medicine tests. So the CBC with differential, the
comprehensive metabolog panel. Then we want the lipid panel, which
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is your cholesterol, trichlysterides HDLD, all that kind of stuff.
We want the iron panel. Sometimes doctors will throw a
fit about this and they'll say, well, it's not indicated
in the CBC. I don't care. I've seen thousands of
cbcs that show no iron problem when there is an
(31:39):
iron problem, So get the iron panel. Thyroid panel is
also very helpful. And when I say thyroid panel, get
the full panel at minimum TSH free T three free,
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T four four, t p O and TG antibodies, so
that minimum those five markers inside a thyroid panel. You're
also gonna want vitamin D, blood glucose and A one
C and all your hormones if you're interested in your hormones.
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And when I say all, get all of them. Don't
just say well I have little energy, I have little libidos,
so test my testosterone. No, we want to see what's
going on in the entire system, So get testosterone, estrogen, progesterone,
and d g A. That's the list. So next time
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you go to your doctor's office, take that list to
them and say, hey, can you get me these blood
this blood work. Never that's all normal blood work, all
normal blood work, so they shouldn't have put too big
of a fit into it. But it's the insurance game,
so just make sure you get those book markers, because
again it's puzzle pieces. The more puzzle pieces you have
(33:08):
and more completely puzzle. So get all of them and
then go grab my book on Amazon why are my
lab as Normal? And follow my podcast Beyond the Diagnosis,
and then you'll know how to do what to do
with all the other labs.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, that's awesome, I mean just knowing what labs to
ask for is I think huge, but then also being
able to I mean, you have a book that you
can go read, you have a podcast that you can
go listen, and you make it so easy for people
to understand. That's what I love about what you do.
(33:44):
And so if somebody wants to work with you specifically
other than going and watching the podcast, how can they
do that?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Email my team so Dr ky l Ie, So doctor
Kylie Team T E. A. M at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Doctor Kylie Team at gmail dot com. And this is
where you can find the podcast, hopefully right Healing Beyond
the Diagnosed.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
It's not go to Apple or Spotify or wherever you
listen to your podcast and type in beyond the Diagnosis
with doctor Kylie.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Oh, there you go. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I was like, I don't know where I got that that,
but I know the the your website has a lot
of information on there too, So doctor Kylie Burton put
it down there.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
There you go, just without all the rest on there.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Well, I am so thankful that you came on today.
I mean that is a plethora information. Like I was
writing down notes furiously as you were talking. But I
think it's important to know that it can be fairly simple.
It's something that you can.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Ask for and record.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Like even when you're going in for your physical or
whatever it might be. Maybe you're experiencing, like you said,
depression or anxiety, or constantly getting UTIs or having constipation
or gas or diary or whatever it might be. Right,
something's happening in your body, and so simply getting lab
(35:24):
tests could find a find whatever's going on, and not
necessarily through your doctor, but going and working with Kylie
or you know, if that's something that you want to do. Absolutely,
I think that just knowing those markers and having it
simplified has been really helpful.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
So I appreciate you sharing all of that information.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Thanks Kelly.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Yeah too, any other thoughts things that you want to share.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I think we started so much. Just go backless on this.
Let all think in really think on it. Grab your
blood work, see what it says and know. Like, if
you want to know all your bloody work, go grab
the book on Amazon. I walk you through very simply
how to rate all the panels, and then the podcast
Beyond the Diagnosis of Doctor Kylie.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Well, thank you so much again for being my guest today.
I really really appreciate you. Yep.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
All right, y'all. That was another amazing episode of Mental
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Week for another episode. Bye y'all.
Welcome to another episode of Mental Health Mondays, where we
talk to guests who are either professionals in the mental
health space, advocates of mental health, or those that live
with or experience a mental health challenge. And just as
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to bring up my guests for today, which I'm super excited.
Doctor Kylie, welcome, Thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Thanks Kelly, I'm happy to be on YAY.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
So I would love for you to just share a
little bit with the audience. What do you do?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Okay? So, by degree, I'm a chiropractor. I don't like
a trusting though, so I'm a functional medicine expert, and
what that means is I get to the underlying causes
of health concerns. And today we're going to talk about
blood work and on normal blood work and what we
should really be looking for inside that blood work and
(02:03):
how it correlates and not correlates, about how it can
cause anxiety and depression.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah. I remember actually one of the first times, other
than being in a Mastermind group with you, I saw
your tiktoks. That's where I like originally started really following
what you were doing, and it was just so fascinating
the way that you talk.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
About blood work in general.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
So I'm really excited to have this conversation, but I'm curious,
like what got you into this.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I was a Western medicine girl my whole life. When
we got sick, we went and got an antibiotic because
that was the thing that we did. It's just what
we knew. I got into college and I really loved
this idea of nutrition helping solve our health concerns. So
I got my bachelor's degree in nutrition, and then I
realized that was just the first step. But if I
(02:55):
didn't know what that step next step was, So I
took a year off started searching around for jobs, and
during that search I got hired as an assistant to
a local chiropractor. I knew nothing about chiropractic, I knew
nothing about functional medicine, but I loved it and it
just made so much sense. Why don't we use this more,
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especially in the chronic scenarios. So I decided that I
should just go get that early expensive piece of paper
and start helping people the way I can help them.
So I did. I went off to chiropractic school. If
I were to do everything over, I would go do
But I don't want to go back to school. So
(03:37):
we're going to do chiropractic and specializing in functional medicine,
which is my jam. And then I discovered functional medicine
lab tests can be really expensive. Do we really need them?
Took me down a whole long route of how do
I help clients save money but yet still get answers
(04:01):
that I need to help make sure that they get
the results that they're looking for. So I took the
blood work that we already have, the CBC, the metabolic panel,
of the thyroid, panel, of the lipid panel, of all
the stuff that we get from our doctor's office just
on like regular checkups. How do I take those normal
blood work markers and turn them into answers? Took lots
(04:26):
and lots of different trainings on it kind of mashed
my own methods together, especially after saying thousands of labs
and now that's what I tell people. I teach people
how to read their own blood work a better way.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
That's amazing. It is.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I mean a lot of times they tell you what
it is right and you're like, Okay, I have no
idea what the heck you just said. But or they're like, oh, yeah,
everything is normal, and you're like, well, I don't really
feel normal, like I know something's going on, but everything
says that I'm normal.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
So yeah, that's really interesting.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, let's talk about the normal labranges here. Let's just
jump right in. Yeah, so the normal labranges are these big,
long lab ranges that are determined based off of thousands
of quote healthy individuals in the area, meaning they don't
have a diagnosis, or the way that they come up
(05:23):
with them is just sad. Honestly, you're literally comparing yourself
to other unhealthy individuals in the area. So what we
want to do is we want to say, let's do
the normal labyranges and let's make them smaller, so that way,
if we fall outside of this range, now we don't
feel good, but not bad enough to have a positive diagnosis.
(05:46):
So give you an example. The TSH marker, the thyroid
stimulating hormone that is the most common lab test for thyroid.
Its normal lab range is zero point five to five
point five. That would be like trying to find your
favorite restaurant somewhere between California and New York. Good luck, right,
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Whereas we can take that lack range and condense it
that it's okay now instead of it being five point
five to five point five, it's one point eight to three.
If you fall within this range, now your thyroid's opt
functioning at a good level. Outside that range, there's a
reason why you feel fatigued, can't lose weight, hard time, sleeping,
(06:39):
brain is going haywire, brain fog, and yet you're still
trying to figure out a diagnosis. What we've been believed
is the answer to our health concerns. Oh, once we
get a diagnosis, that's an answer. Is it no? Okay?
(06:59):
So taking the range and condensing into the functional ranges
and the guy who came up with those numbers, at
least the ones that I use. Our doctor Doty's carosium.
He's one of those guys that has five trillion letters
next to his name. Somebody had to do the research
and find the find the functional ranges for these. So
that's the that's the background and the difference between what
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you're seeing the doctor's range of blood work, and what
I'm gonna teach you. That makes sense.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, No, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I'm probably gonna have to come back even after we
talk and rewatch this and then look at my blood
work and you know, put it all together.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
So when it comes to anxiety and depression specifically, we're
gonna pay attention to a few markers. And those markers
are found inside the CBC with differential It is the
most common blood test we ever have had. It's like
the number one lap test everybody takes to just see
(08:03):
what's going on. Right now, Chances are you've been told
your work is normal. Thank goodness, because if it's not normal,
now I've got to go down rabbit holes of some
type of diagnosis. Okay, and I want to caveat this
and say I don't care what your diagnosis is. I
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don't care what your symptoms are. I want to know
how do I help your body get healthy? What does
your body need to get healthy? And as that happens,
your symptoms just go away and your diagnosis has become irrelevant.
(08:44):
So I'll get questions like, hey, have you ever treated
anybody with POTS? Have you ever treated anybody with post
traumatic PTSD? Have you ever treated anybody like? The list
goes on, no, no, no, on, and I'm like, yeah, I have,
But I don't treat their POTS. I don't treat anxiety,
I don't treat depression. I treat them as a person.
(09:06):
I treat their bodies as a whole. Like our bodies
are incredible machines, multiple systems working together. We can't just
focus on the GI track from our gastro we can't
just focus on our hormones from our endocrinologists. We have
to focus on the whole body. And when we do that,
that's where magic happens.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I think that's I mean just in saying that, treating
the whole body and not I mean, like you said,
so often people get diagnosis and they're like, oh, that's
what's wrong with me? Right, it's like this label and
this thing that we become because somebody.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Told us that's what we are.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Right. So I think that's really important that you said
you treat the whole body. It's not the diagnosis, it's
not whatever is happening. It's we're now going to look
at things at an even smaller level.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, So what you are right now is just a
glimpse of time. So whether you had an eye anxiety,
a depression diagnosis, or PTSD or whatever it is, that's
just a matter of time right now. You can change
what life is like in five years if you want to.
So just think with that perspective of it's not a
(10:23):
lifetime sentence. If you want it to be a lifetime
sentence and claim it as such, but it doesn't need
to be. Okay, okay, ready for some labs, yes, all right.
The CBC is the complete blood cell count. It is
a lab test, like I said, the most common lab
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test that we all get. And on that lab test,
there's two different versions of it. We have just the
CBC and then we had the CBC with differential. We're
going to cross all our fingers and their toes. That
when you go back to look at your blood worker
if you're looking at it right now as you're listening
(11:07):
to this, that you have a CBC with differential. The
CBC is a lab test worth the price of pennies
if it doesn't have the differential differential makes it where
the lab tests worth the price of gold? And you're
going to find out right here. Okay, So on that
lab test, at the very top of the lab test,
(11:27):
there's this white blood cell count WBC. That's a marker. Okay. Now,
I want you to think about all of these markers
and your blood work as pieces to your puzzle. The
more blood work, the more markers you have, the more
pieces to your puzzle. I'm going to teach you like
the big key pieces though, If you were to have
(11:49):
a five hundred piece puzzle and four hundred and eighty
eight of them are one size, the little teeny ones,
and then there's twelve bigger pieces, we're gonna talk about
those for your bigger pieces of your puzzle. Okay, So
the white blood cell count WBC is the very top
marker inside the CBC making sense, yes, Okay, I don't
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know what the normal lab range is for that one,
but I can tell you what the functional ranges, and
that's the one that you want to pay attention to.
It's five to eight. So if your WBC is less
than five or greater than eight, your body's fighting some
type of infection. M This is the most common instigator
(12:37):
or trigger of anxiety depression. Why because infections live within
our bodies. Your body is so busy trying to fight
these guys that it doesn't have energy for anything else depression,
(12:58):
or it's so busy these guys that it doesn't take
very much to overstimulate you anxiety. Does that make sense, Kelly, Yeah, Okay,
Now that white blood cell marker, it's pretty good, but
it's not the best. Like you're gonna see your white
blood cell count it like five point two or seven
(13:21):
point five, or maybe even dead in the middle at
like six point five or seven. But you always, always
always have to go down to the very bottom of
the test where you're gonna see five very very very
important markers. These are the biggest puzzle pieces in my opinion.
This is why the CBC with differential is so important,
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because that differential are these five markers. They're gonna help
determine what type of infection your body's dealing with, so
then we know what to treat on the back end. Okay,
follow me, yes, Okay. The neutrophil count, it starts with
(14:07):
an N as a nancy, so neutraphils. The magic number
is sixty percent six zero. Okay. If it's less than sixty,
that's probably a good thing. If it's greater than sixty,
(14:28):
we know your body is fighting at bacterial infection and
that's why you're struggling. Let me give you an example
of what this can look like. Okay, I got I
get a lot of people that say, my gut is
a wreck. I got bloating, I got constipation, I got diarrhea,
(14:50):
I got I don't think I'm absorbing my food like
I am. My guts just I don't know what it's
gonna do on in a given day. Okay, this is
what leads to wrecked guts. Now, it can go as
far as IBS, IBD, crones, but ultimately there's too many
bad guys, bad bacteria, and not enough good guys. And
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depending upon what type of bad guys you have depends
on the type of gas that they produce. One type
of gas leads to chronic constipation, one type of gas
leads to diarrhea. So I had a fourteen year old
boy I worked with very early on in clinical practice,
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and he had so many gut issues, meaning diarrhea, Like
he would go to the bathroom five, six, seven times
a day that was normal for him. And he was
like eating rice and chicken like nothing, trying to fix
these issues as a fourteen year old. He wanted to
go to scout camp in the summertime, but he was
terrified because of one the food and two what was
(15:59):
his gig going to do? Has a major, major anxiety
depression because of what this what is gut was doing. Right,
So we took what we call the ce BOB test
Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. This is a breath test that
can determine what type of gas your body is producing,
whether it be constipation or the diarrhea gas. Now you
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can actually bypass that test and look at the neutrophil
count on your CBC. So you can save yourself too
hundred and fifty dollars of a functional medicine test just
by your regular blood work and saying, oh, I it's
that sixty eight percent my guts are wreck I've got
some anxiety and depression going on. I now know what's
leading what's causing that at least a big factor because
(16:46):
remember it's all about puzzle pieces. One of those big
factors are the bacterial infections. So what we did we
used a couple of supplements for our space of three
four months, went off to scale camp, eating regularly. Final
I remember one time he came into my office and
I had a brick and mortar practice and he's like,
(17:08):
it's like, Kylie, I feel constipated. Now, what do you
mean you're constipated? Now? How many times do you go
in the bathroom one time a day? That to him
was constipation because he was so used to having to
always be I mean he was homeschooled too, so he
could always be by the bathroom. So that's what we're
(17:28):
looking at. Neutrophil count sixty percent or higher, bacterial infection. Okay,
Now there's really no way to determine fungal, but I
know off of thousands of labs I've seen, if there's
a bacterial infection, I'm going to treat fungal too. And
you can correlate this with I give you ever heard
(17:50):
of people who have chronic UTIs, Like they get antibiotics
for uti, and then it comes back again in six months.
It's back again in a month, and it's like this
all the time. The antibiotic is taking care of the bacteria,
but not the co infection, the fungal Okay, take a
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big deep breath, because that was our first mark. The
second marker are the lymphocytes. Now this one is huge
for anxiety, depression and chronic fatigue. Lymphocytes their job is
to fight viruses. So if your lymphocytes are above a
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thirty percent, your body's binding a viral infection. I don't
know what type of virus it is, and I don't care,
because we're gonna treat with an anti viral and then
support the immune system with everything that it needs. So
neutrophil count sixty percent, lymphocyte count thirty percent, Okay, sixty third.
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That's a two to one ratio. Now, I know your
audience is smart, so I want to teach you the
most important ratio you need to know inside your blood work,
and it's between those exact same two markers. Okay, when
our numbers start to meet in the middle, So say
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we've got neutral fills at forty four percent and lympho
sites at forty percent. When they start to meet in
the middle, that's when we're fighting autoimmune. So even though
you might have a list of diagnosises or a lack
of an autoimmune isn't on there, and yet you're seeing
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the one to one ratio inside your blood work. Now
you know, oh, my immune system needs a lot of help.
Time I'm going to climb out of the hole that
I'm in right now is by helping my immune system.
Makes sense? Yeah, okay, Now, viruses and back to your infections.
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They can attack anything. It really depends upon what your
genes tell them to attack. So in my family it's Parkinson's,
they attack the spine. In someone else's family, it's hashimotos
they attacks the thyroid. In someone else's family, it's depression,
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it attacks the brain. Okay, so think about these infections
are underlying causes or triggers to your current health state.
When you remove them, that's when we say, oh, you
might be in this state now, but if you want
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to change, you can change it. You just got to
give your body what it needs. So in five years
you can live life. Even a year, you can live
life how you want and not be dependent or debilitated
by these diagnosies.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah, that's really cool. I was taking notes while you
were talking.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Sends with the blood work, right, yeah, Yeah, those are
the big, big, big pieces that if you know those
two markers, you know a lot. Now here's the other thing.
If you see your neutrophil count at sixty eight percent
or seventy two percent, don't go running to your doctor
saying that you have a bacterial affection. They're gonna laugh
(21:49):
at you and they're gonna say, if you that's what
you think, let's test. They are gonna test for see
diff E coli campalow back to her, And unless you
like sitting on the toilet for the last thirty days
straight because you have one of these bacterial infections, it's
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gonna come back negative. Okay. These are low grade infections
that just go bypassed because we're not trained how to
read bloodbirk correctly. And then, as far as treatment is concerned,
antibiotics aren't going to solve these issues. So we have
to look at things in a different way in order
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to get different results.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Actually, I have a friend who she was positive for seediff.
As you said that, I was like, oh man, and
she just actually had to have a transplant to be able.
This is her second time that she had to have
a transplant.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
So yeah, if those things are positive, I mean it's major. Yeah,
really bad. This is more of the I've got IBS
or I'm sick of tire of being told I ibs.
No one can solve is shoes, or I'll give you
another weird case scenario with the neutrophil count, because these
can present in any way. It's just a matter of
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how is your body, what's the weak point in your body?
So I had a I was working with a young mom.
She woke up one morning with her shright shoulder not
being able to move it. Just got a toddler and
a baby can't lift them up because her shoulder is
now immovable. I saw her like four or five months
(23:34):
after this began. She'd done the chiropractical massage therapy. They
were doing like injections everything to her shoulder, and I
was like, well, why would I keep doing the same
stuff that hasn't worked in the past. Did anybody along
the way take blood work on you? Oh? Yeah, my
primary care doctor took blood work on me, told me
it was normal. Great, go get it for me. It's
(23:58):
like I'm kid on Christmas morning. Wait, you got blood
work in here? Told that it was normal. Perfect. So
she went to the doctor's office got her own blood work. Yes,
you guys can do that. Your blood work is yours.
In fact, if you have blood work already, request it.
(24:20):
Find it in your patient portal. Anytime in the future
that you get blood work, ask for their prince, take
them home with you. They are it's your blood work.
You have a right to see them and use them.
So she went and got it, and I looked at
her nutra Phil Cowen and said eighty eight percent. Ooh,
that's really high. How on earth is a back to
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your infection stuck in her joint causing her shoulder to
not move? It makes no sense. But the only way
to find out is to treat. So we treated our
back to your infection with like three months of a
supplement regimen that I created for gone shoulders just fine,
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never touched your shoulder.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So they can present in all sorts of ways. It's
just a matter of what's your weak point in your body.
That's where it's gonna hang out.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
That's really interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
And I say that because there's a lot that's happened
in my family at least. But one thing that pops
into my head is at least when I'm talking about
mental health in general, is those baselines, like understanding your
baseline as a person and then understanding those around you.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
And so that's kind of reminded me what you were
talking about.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Is although we can be a normal range, right, we
still have our own baselines as to how our bodies function,
and we're all going to be different. So that was
something that popped into my head and I was like, oh,
you just confirmed that, you know, that's true with mental
health and health in general. And then I there's so
(26:03):
many things going through my head because my son he.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Experienced seizures when he was younger.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Blood work everything perfectly normal, even they did cat scans
and EKGs or not ekg's but EEG's nothing. Everything was
perfectly normal, so there was nothing found. Ever, he hasn't
had them since he was a year and a half,
and so we put him on CBD, which a friend
(26:33):
advised us to and so we tried that and he's
been seizure free ever since, which is great.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
So yeah, there's that normal of well, we can't find anything.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I don't know what to tell you, and that's frustrating
as a parent, of course.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
But he also experiences encropus that's how you say it.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Ultimately like a backup in his colon and so like
it uh like poop gets really hard and they can't
figure out why or what necessarily is causing it, and
it becomes a challenge.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
We call it a challenge.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
But same thing like when you were talking about the
fourteen year old, My son's seven, and it's hard, Like
it's hard as a parent to watch them like go
through that and then you do the cleanses, you do
everything that you can, and like they're it's like they
can't figure out why or what's happening other than labeling it,
(27:32):
and so that can be frustrating.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
It's really like giving them capsules a swallow cat like
that's that's hard at that age. And then he's scared
to go to school, like it just affects everything in life.
It's yeah, I would be interested to see what his
blood work says.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I don't actually I'm thinking about I'm like, I don't
think we've ever gotten blood work, so that may be
something that I ask for.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I think it's older enough now too, because pulling blood
at one and a half is very difficult, where at
seven you have a little more control over him. Just
getting the veins could be a little tricky with the
small body, right. I've actually seen several blood work from
people who have quote epilepsy where they had the seizures
(28:24):
and there's really no explanation onto what's causing them. And
the latest one. She's had multiple seizures in the last
i'd say a year now, and there's been a couple
of them where she's in the public and goes into
a seizure. One was on an airplane. They were able
(28:46):
to land at their appropriate landing spot, but they had
an anambulance waiting right therefore hauled her off, took some blood,
which I love to get blood work in the moment.
It's like what was going on in the moment versus
what's going on you know two weeks later when they're fine,
because it's all of a sudden, Why is a body
just flipping into the seizure attack? And every single time
(29:08):
she's had a blood work in the moment, her neutrophil
count is up. It's like in the eighties versus when
she just goes to like the neurologist and she's in
a total normal state, it's not it's the craziest thing.
So it's like we just have these different moments of
time to get blood work and compare and contrast what
(29:30):
are the flares when it's normal. So now I just
have her on a regiment where we keep the bacterial
infection at bay and that's just like her her normal
daily thing now and it's not only helped the seizures,
but it's fixed her gut too. Now she's in her
mid twenties, so a little easier to treat at that age.
(29:53):
But with liquids, I mean, we could talk more because
there's a way, there's a there's some liquids that you
can apply topically that will help that bacteria that's causing
the constipation.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Mm hmm, yeah, I would love.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I'm like, we'll have to have a side jet no,
but I think that it's it's important to understand.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
And Oh, the question that was popping into my head is.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
I'm assuming you can go in and say, when you're
doing your lab work or whatever, you can ask for
the differentials.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Right, Yeah, that's a good question. So I have I
get this question asked all the time. Hey, I'm going
to my primary doctor. What do you want? What labs
should I ask for? Totally asked for labs. Now you
might have to be a little pushy about getting the
whole list, but make sure you get the list. So
write these down as you're listening. Okay, Number one, the
CBC with differential. Number two, the comprehensive metabolic panel. That
(30:54):
metabolic panel, we can tell things like adrenal fatigue, leaky gut,
chemical intolerance. So again we're using normal blood work to
bypass functional medicine tests. So the CBC with differential, the
comprehensive metabolog panel. Then we want the lipid panel, which
(31:17):
is your cholesterol, trichlysterides HDLD, all that kind of stuff.
We want the iron panel. Sometimes doctors will throw a
fit about this and they'll say, well, it's not indicated
in the CBC. I don't care. I've seen thousands of
cbcs that show no iron problem when there is an
(31:39):
iron problem, So get the iron panel. Thyroid panel is
also very helpful. And when I say thyroid panel, get
the full panel at minimum TSH free T three free,
(31:59):
T four four, t p O and TG antibodies, so
that minimum those five markers inside a thyroid panel. You're
also gonna want vitamin D, blood glucose and A one
C and all your hormones if you're interested in your hormones.
(32:25):
And when I say all, get all of them. Don't
just say well I have little energy, I have little libidos,
so test my testosterone. No, we want to see what's
going on in the entire system, So get testosterone, estrogen, progesterone,
and d g A. That's the list. So next time
(32:46):
you go to your doctor's office, take that list to
them and say, hey, can you get me these blood
this blood work. Never that's all normal blood work, all
normal blood work, so they shouldn't have put too big
of a fit into it. But it's the insurance game,
so just make sure you get those book markers, because
again it's puzzle pieces. The more puzzle pieces you have
(33:08):
and more completely puzzle. So get all of them and
then go grab my book on Amazon why are my
lab as Normal? And follow my podcast Beyond the Diagnosis,
and then you'll know how to do what to do
with all the other labs.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, that's awesome, I mean just knowing what labs to
ask for is I think huge, but then also being
able to I mean, you have a book that you
can go read, you have a podcast that you can
go listen, and you make it so easy for people
to understand. That's what I love about what you do.
(33:44):
And so if somebody wants to work with you specifically
other than going and watching the podcast, how can they
do that?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Email my team so Dr ky l Ie, So doctor
Kylie Team T E. A. M at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Doctor Kylie Team at gmail dot com. And this is
where you can find the podcast, hopefully right Healing Beyond
the Diagnosed.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
It's not go to Apple or Spotify or wherever you
listen to your podcast and type in beyond the Diagnosis
with doctor Kylie.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Oh, there you go. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I was like, I don't know where I got that that,
but I know the the your website has a lot
of information on there too, So doctor Kylie Burton put
it down there.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
There you go, just without all the rest on there.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Well, I am so thankful that you came on today.
I mean that is a plethora information. Like I was
writing down notes furiously as you were talking. But I
think it's important to know that it can be fairly simple.
It's something that you can.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Ask for and record.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Like even when you're going in for your physical or
whatever it might be. Maybe you're experiencing, like you said,
depression or anxiety, or constantly getting UTIs or having constipation
or gas or diary or whatever it might be. Right,
something's happening in your body, and so simply getting lab
(35:24):
tests could find a find whatever's going on, and not
necessarily through your doctor, but going and working with Kylie
or you know, if that's something that you want to do. Absolutely,
I think that just knowing those markers and having it
simplified has been really helpful.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
So I appreciate you sharing all of that information.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Thanks Kelly.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Yeah too, any other thoughts things that you want to share.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I think we started so much. Just go backless on this.
Let all think in really think on it. Grab your
blood work, see what it says and know. Like, if
you want to know all your bloody work, go grab
the book on Amazon. I walk you through very simply
how to rate all the panels, and then the podcast
Beyond the Diagnosis of Doctor Kylie.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Well, thank you so much again for being my guest today.
I really really appreciate you. Yep.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
All right, y'all. That was another amazing episode of Mental
Health Mondays where we talk to guests who are either
professionals in the mental health space, advocates for mental health,
or those that live with or experience a mental health challenge.
And I told you at the very beginning I was
going to share some exciting information with you about this
(36:47):
podcast specifically.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
So we do go live.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
We go live on YouTube, Facebook and LinkedIn currently, but
we have been asked or I have we I always
talk in weez because I do have a board that
help support BCC evolution, but I have been asked to
move the platform over to E three sixty TV. There's
a new channel that's coming out and they want to
(37:11):
bring this podcast show over to that side, which will
ultimately open up millions of viewers and potential to reach
lots and lots and lots of people. So very very
excited for that. You can find us on any of
the podcat the podcast channels now there's seven different ones
(37:37):
that it gets uploaded to, so that is also available
maybe like listening versus watching.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
You can absolutely do that. But starting it'll be.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
In March, so we have about a month left, but
starting in March we're going to move to that other
platform and be able to showcase all the incredible guests
that I bring and there's a potential of going two
times per week. We'll see how it works out. So
be sure to share this, make sure you mash down
that subscribe button, follow us if you're not already following,
(38:10):
And again as a reminder, BCC Evolution is a five
oh one C three nonprofit. So in order to bring
you all these incredible but guests, all the programs that
we do around mental health and suicide prevention education, man
come out in mouth and brain. We need your help
and the easiest, fastest, simplest way to do that is
(38:34):
texting climb for mind through to four four three two one.
That goes to the challenge that myself and Philip are
doing in August to climb twenty nine to twenty nine
in the name of mental health and suicide prevention education,
and all of that goes to all of our programs
(38:56):
that we offer across the board with.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Mental health education.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
So this way, just text it climb for Mine to
four four three two one and make the donation today.
And like I said, or if you've watched any of
the other episodes with one hundred dollars donation or more,
you get the chance to put your name or a
name on the front of our shirts. Maybe it's somebody
you've lost by suicide, Maybe it's somebody you've lost by
(39:21):
substance abuse or another mental health challenge, and you want
to showcase them and their story, you can put their
name on the front. And if you're a business with
one thousand dollars donation or more, you have to put
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And we'll be streaming the event. Will be in Utah
(39:42):
climbing a mountain thirteen times to equal twenty nine twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
So your support is very much appreciated.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
And if you need any other resources, like Kylie said,
go back watch us again. Think about your labs, right,
So go back.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
And watch any of the other episodes.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
I just love how my guests keep toppling over each
other because that's what this show is all about, is
bringing you the resources that you possibly need. So thank
you so much for watching very excited things happening. We
appreciate all the donors already and make sure you come
back next.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Week for another episode. Bye y'all.
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