Make Trades Great Again

Make Trades Great Again

Whether you're a seasoned professional, a newcomer, or simply interested in the trades, the "Make Trades Great Again" podcast offers something for everyone. Our goal is to promote the value of skilled trades, provide essential resources, and build a strong community of passionate individuals. Industry Insights - Educational Content - Community Stories - Technology in Trades Tune in now and be part of the movement to make trades great again!

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August 26, 2025 24 mins

In this episode of the Make Trades Great Again podcast, hosts Eric and Andy discuss their journey over the past five years, including the technical difficulties they often face, their experiences with realtors and home inspections, and the importance of using checklists in their service work. They reflect on their growth as podcasters and the lessons learned along the way, while also engaging with their listeners and encouraging fe...

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In this episode of the Make Trades Great Again podcast, hosts Eric Aune and Andy Mickelson discuss how to expand skills as a business owner without compromising customer service. They explore the challenges of tackling new installations, the importance of learning from experience, and how to balance customer expectations with the need for personal growth. The conversation emphasizes the value of preparation, understanding new techn...

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August 12, 2025 32 mins

A group of research scientists have been working with small business and major corporations alike to study the effects of a four day work week…and it’s likely not what you think. 

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August 5, 2025 63 mins

Luke Cazaly joins the guys for another hour of great conversation covering multiple topics. We are so thankful to all our guests and you, the listener for tuning in each week!

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July 28, 2025 36 mins

Denver Baker, owner of MD Heating is in the virtual studio this week to talk about his success implementing project financing for his customers. Denver is a long-time friend and fan of the pod, he's joined us in the past to talk other business topics and for a great discussion on EV Service vehicles (See that here: https://youtu.be/PntUWOGWr-o) 

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Australian Luke Cazaly is the owner of Flametech Heating & Cooling. Luke is a longtime friend of the pod, it was fun catching up with him and talking business and family. Thanks Luke!

Takeaways

  • Luke has been in the heating and cooling industry for 16 years.
  • Using software like Service Mate has streamlined his operations.
  • Market research helped him set competitive pricing.
  • He leaves gaps in his schedule for emergencies and paperw...
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July 15, 2025 27 mins

Eric and Andy discuss the complexities and challenges of managing construction projects, particularly in the plumbing sector. They share real-world scenarios that highlight the importance of proper project management, the necessity of permits, and the impact of customer expectations on project timelines. 

The discussion also delves into the differences between time and material pricing versus bidding, emphasizing the need for clear ...

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July 8, 2025 24 mins

In this conversation, the guys discuss the complexities of hvac projects, pricing strategies, and the importance of customer communication in the HVAC industry.

They share personal experiences and insights on how to effectively engage with customers, manage expectations, and highlight the value of quality components. 

The discussion also touches on financing options to help customers afford necessary services, emphasizing the need fo...

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This week the guys talk partnerships, contracts, marketing during a slowdown and more. 

Eric owns a media company along with his business partner John Mesenbrink (host of the Appetite for Construction podcast) so he's had over ten years of experience in this area.

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The very last thing I want to do as the contractor is make a not-so-great situation worse" Andy Mickelson 

What happens when you figure out there's a problem on the job, how you handle it says a lot about you as a company/service provider. This week the guys are talking recent jobs and problems and an amazing tax credit/rebate situation happening in Andy's market.

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Somewhat of a chat session this week. The guys talk about some products they really like, lots of talk on equipment and piping fittings/materials that make everyday a little faster/easier/enjoyable. 

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June 10, 2025 24 mins

Have we become too complacent when it comes to ordering online? 

Its 2025 and yet, somehow and for whatever reason this online supplier is asking for four forms of order verification and signatures upon delivery for regular, everyday plumbing and hvac material orders lol! 

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Would you hire someone with zero trade work experience? What if they're in their 30's? How old is too old to start in the trades? 

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May 27, 2025 29 mins

Are you the low bid? Are you being beat by the low bidder but offering a more complete job, is it apple to apples? This week the guys chat about a recent encounter Eric had on the job with another local plumber. 

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May 20, 2025 17 mins

Our customer's finances are feeling the pinch more than ever as prices are the highest on record. Inflation, tariffs, shipping backlogs are just some of the bigger problems on the product side but a big part of the general population is finding it difficult manage unexpected bills. Eric is now offering financing and Andy is looking into it for his business.

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This isn't a how-to guide, let's get that out of the way immediately. 

The guys chat about the accuracy of estimates, whether the price of a job changes when things are missed AND how some companies operate on the "low upfront bid" and tack on the add-ons as the job progresses. 

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May 6, 2025 31 mins

As supply chains and tariffs are making running our service and construction businesses increasingly more difficult, is there benefit to buying only US? Do our customers care? Are they willing to pay more for products made in the US? 

 

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April 29, 2025 17 mins

Eric's been working on a plan to partner with local builders for water conditioning in new construction homes and Andy talks about something similar they've been doing with a local general contractor in an affluent Missoula neighborhood. 

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April 22, 2025 24 mins

Some recent changes to standard operating procedures were in order for Andy's plumbing & heating shop, Eric's making the change too. 

Do you work in client's home's when no one is there? Should you? Give this one a listen and let us know what you think by sending us a message using the link below! 

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March 4, 2025 56 mins

New tools are great but new tool bags are awesome! Andy gives us a close look at his latest addition, the Veto Pro Pac Hybrid Tool and Meter bag (SB-LD)

This episode is best viewed on the MH youtube channel: 

https://youtu.be/RjQVIcKgg7k 

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