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July 13, 2025 40 mins

Welcome to Making Cents, the podcast for people who want financial freedom without giving up their coffee.

I’m Frances Cook, an independent financial journalist and fellow financial freedom seeker who makes money simple for you.


Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are no longer just for tech bros and Reddit threads. As crypto edges closer to the mainstream, new ways to invest are opening up, including through fully regulated, tax-efficient managed funds.


In this episode, I’m joined by Anthony Edmonds, the investment manager behind New Zealand’s first regulated Bitcoin PIE fund.


We break down why he created it, who it’s for, and how it lets everyday investors access Bitcoin without needing to mess around with exchanges, wallets, or tracking capital gains tax.


We cover:

- How regulated Bitcoin PIE funds work (and why they matter)

- Why crypto is shifting from a fringe asset to being part of serious portfolios

- What risks still exist (even in a “boomer-friendly” version of Bitcoin)

- How fund structures like PIEs make investing simpler, especially for high earners

- Whether other coins like Ethereum could follow


If you’re crypto-curious but cautious, this one’s for you.


Making Cents is supported by our friends at Kiwibank


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