All Episodes

May 12, 2025 56 mins

Have you ever wished for more hours in the day while watching your to-do list grow endlessly? You're not alone, and the solution might surprise you.

The real issue isn't a lack of time—it's how we're managing the hours we already have. This revelation forms the foundation of my illuminating conversation with Kali Brigham, a time management expert whose journey began in the high-pressure environment of TV news production, where every second counted and deadlines weren't negotiable.

Kali introduces us to the concept of priority management rather than time management. Through practical strategies like conducting a time audit, we discover how most of us consistently underestimate, overestimate, or fail to estimate how long tasks actually take. This simple awareness can transform how we approach our schedules.

What struck me most was Kali's refreshing perspective that effective time management isn't about restriction—it's about freedom. "Time blocking is like an offensive line protecting the quarterback," she explains. "It's protecting your priorities, it's protecting your values." Rather than filling every minute with productivity, true time mastery means creating intentional space for what matters most. Each strategy is designed not to make you busier, but to help your schedule better reflect your values.

Whether you're feeling overwhelmed by commitments or struggling to make time for relationships and hospitality, this conversation offers hope that small changes can lead to significant shifts in how you experience time. Ready to transform your relationship with your schedule? Listen now, and discover how to make room for what truly matters.

Learn more about Kali on her website here 

This episode was sponsored by our friends at:

 N-2 Water! Looking for a way to hydrate with all the complete nutrients you need? Wanting to improve your hydration and health with ease and flavors you'll love? We LOVE N-2 and know that you will to! Head on over to their website and use code EARLYSIPS to save at checkout

Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everyone, welcome back to Making Room.
I am so glad that you're here.
I'm a little bit sniffly today,to be honest.
I was just telling our new ornot our new friend, our guest
today that we have just beenlike man, like so many of us,
just like sick a lot this year.
But we are here and I'm soexcited about this conversation.
I know that I'm not alone inthinking thoughts like wishing

(00:24):
there were more hours in the day, wondering how my to-do list
just never seems to come to anend, trying to figure out how to
just be intentional with mytime.
I know I'm not alone in that,and so this conversation I
brought in the expert to chatabout it because I'm in need of
a little extra support.

(00:44):
I know that you might be tooand we're going to get down to
the specifics to make somechange, make some immediate
changes that I know will benefitso many of us.
Actually, one of my heartbeatsbehind this conversation is
really trying, really hopingthat all of us can create time
in our schedules forrelationships and intentionality

(01:05):
.
I hear so much I don't havetime for friendships, I don't
have time for hospitality, Idon't have time to cook and all
of those things I think are veryvalid with our current time
structure and time management,but it doesn't have to be that
way.
So today we're going to talkabout challenging that a little
bit, shifting things up andcreating a new strategy.

(01:26):
If you do not know our friendCallie I was on her show, so I
think my mind's getting a littlebit confused.
You might have heard me when Ishared my episode on her show,
but here is a little bit moreabout her.
If you are hearing about herfor the first time, callie is
married to her collegesweetheart, josh.
So Callie is married to hercollege sweetheart Josh.
They have a 16-year-old Brayden, who loves all things sports,

(01:47):
and a 14-year-old Madeline andtheir mini Australian
labradoodle Pippa.
Oh, I love career.
After starting with Mary KayCosmetics, cosmetics, mom brain.

(02:12):
Today you guys are tracking Iknow you are.
She drives the iconic pinkCadillac in her amazing sales.
You know what?
Wow, callie.
I'm starting this over.
I'm botching too many words.
Callie is married to hercollege sweetheart, josh.
They have a 16-year-old Braydenand 14-year-old Madeline and
their mini Australianlabradoodle Pippa, who is the
center of their universe.
That's one of the names that Iwould name my daughter, but I

(02:34):
know Colby would never go for it.
Future daughter.
Before Mary Kay, callie was a TVnews producer for NBC News
Memphis.
She retired from her careerafter starting with Mary Kay
Cosmetics.
She drives the iconic pinkCadillac and her amazing sales
team ranked number one in NorthAmerica.
Incredible Fun fact, she's alsoa professional violinist.

(02:57):
In addition to playing withsymphonies, she's been hired to
play with well-known recordingartists out on tour.
She moved back to Pensacolaafter Brayden was born and loves
being involved in theircommunity Symphonies.
She's been hired to play withwell-known recording artists out
on tour.
She moved back to Pensacolaafter Brayden was born and loves
being involved in theircommunity, including her church
and Favor House, a localdomestic violence shelter.
She also started a nationalsupport group for women
struggling with infertility andmiscarriage after going through

(03:20):
that season herself.
The group now has over 500women and they have seen well
over 100 babies born or adopted.
When she's not working fromhome, she loves to work out in
her neighbor's garage, travel,read, run on the beach, watch
TED Talks, listen to podcasts,including hers, me, yours, hers,
her own You'll have to clarifyfor me Help women reach their

(03:45):
dreams and, most importantly,hang out with her four most
important people and Pippa, ofcourse, because she had so much
free time.
I identify with this part somuch.
One year ago she started herown company where she helps
ambitious women with their timemanagement so they could be at
the top of their game withoutburnout or guilt.

(04:07):
Well, guys, I am very eager todive into this a little bit more
, but if you are like Colby andI, we are not huge on New Year's
resolutions or goals, but werealize that the postpartum
season hit us kind of hard andwe just got a little bit sloppy
with our habits and no judgmenthere, I just know that you guys,

(04:28):
you get that and we live agenerally healthy lifestyle.
Just, we realized that a lotmore things that we didn't eat
made our way, used to not eat,made our way into our diets more
regularly.
Anyways, we were just notfeeling ourselves, not feeling
great and we wanted to have alot of energy for the
opportunities coming up aheadthis year and wanting to just

(04:49):
make some intentional shifts.
So hydration has always beenone of those things.
I had a customer actually Ithink she listens to the show
and I was going through sharingsome things on social media and
she was like Katie, you have toregularly be including
electrolytes.
You do that already.
And I was like, yeah, once in awhile when I do like a really
hard workout, and she was like,no, no, no, this has to be a
daily habit.
It'll change your life, trustme.

(05:11):
And so we went through thiscycle of trying to find one that
we loved.
Because we're learning thingsin culture right now about dyes
and artificial sweeteners andrefined sugars and all of those
things, right, like I'm not adoctor.
I'm not a doctor, but you know,we're hearing those things, and
so the quality of theelectrolyte was really important
to me.
And that's when we found outabout N2 water.

(05:32):
And this is actually a businessthat we are connected to
through a friend.
We know the owners.
They are real people, realsmall business, but with an
incredible product.
So N2 sent us some electrolytesto try and Colby was like, oh my
gosh, this thing pours reallywell.
Now that might sound reallysilly, like why is Colby talking

(05:52):
about the pourability of thisthing?
If you've ever gotten one ofthese packets, sometimes they're
really like grainy and grossand like all stuck together.
That was not the case.
They poured really well.
They taste incredible.
There's nothing artificial.
Now some of these brands have avery high salt.
Like they.
They're very salty when youhave them.
I would call this one.

(06:13):
Somewhere in the middle.
I actually found the salt to bevery refreshing but very
balanced, and so it wasn't anoverpowering taste and we just
felt so rejuvenated.
There are only five simpleingredients ocean sourced
minerals, calcium, magnesium,sodium all natural and an
incredible assortment of flavorsthat you guys get access to and

(06:33):
can try for yourselves.
Head on over to their website,n-2watercom, and get your own
for 20% off with the codeEARLYSIPS E-A-R-L-Y-S-I-P-S at
checkout.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Hi, I'm Katie, a hospitality educator and the
host of Making Room by Gatherpodcast.
I am set to see our communitiesget back to the table through
hospitality, but it wasn'talways this way.
My husband and I moved toThailand and through it I
experienced some loneliness andwith it I was given a choice to
sit back and accept it or to dosomething about it.

(07:18):
And for me that meant twothings that I needed the healing
to learn how to accept aninvitation and the confidence to
know how to extend one.
Through this process, Ideveloped some of the richest
and deepest relationships of mylife.
Through Making Room by Gather,you will hear conversations from
myself and experts in the areasof food, design and

(07:40):
relationships.
You see there are countlessthings trying to keep us from
the table, but can I tell yousomething?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Take a seat, because you are ready, you are capable,
you are a good host.
Okay, hi, there you go.
That's better.
So glad you're here.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Oh, Katie, I just feel so welcomed into your space
and this conversation today.
Thank you for the invitation.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Of course.
Of course, I feel like certainconversations I feel like are
like a long time in the makingright, and this is one that we
both have been busy.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
I was going to say, if only people could see the
email thread between us oftrying to get this to happen,
it's amazing, it would feel verynormal.
I think they would feel like,oh yeah, that feels like me
trying to get together with mygirlfriends or me.
So yeah, we're not alone, arewe?

Speaker 1 (08:37):
I'm proud of us.
I'm proud of us.
We did it.
We're here.
We did.
Well, let's start off.
My listeners know I like tostart off with a little bit of a
backstory, just so we get alittle bit more connected with
you.
So this one is one that I feellike people might take a
notebook out, jot down notes,start with some strategy and, I

(08:58):
don't know, listen back for someinspiration.
But I want to hear from youabout your road to a career kind
of like encouraging women inthe area of time management, and
so that's very niche, obviouslyvery important and necessary.
So what was the road that led?

Speaker 3 (09:14):
you there.
Yeah, it is a road that leadsyou to a calling or a purpose or
a mission, and nothing's wasted.
I'm a big proponent of that.
So if you are still on yourjourney or you're finding your
way there, just know thatwhatever path that you're on, it
does have a purpose.
And so I think back to mine.

(09:35):
I mean, I could go way back andthings like my dad was always
an hour early for things and mymom was always more like an hour
late, and I'm an only child, solike I was going to go one way
or the other, right, so I wasgoing to lean, either to be
early, lean to be late, lean tobe the last people at church
when everybody else was donetalking, or you got it.

(09:56):
But really, where I'm going tostart my story is when I was a
TV news producer, and I thinkthat was the proving ground of
my learning about the importanceand the value of time
management.
So I produce the 5 o'clock news.
It starts at 5 o'clock on thedot, it ends at 5, 28, and 30

(10:19):
seconds.
Now, for most people, if youwere a minute late to work or 30
seconds late to work, no bigdeal.
But when you're a news producer, you cannot be late quote
unquote to work.
If the news starts at 5, youbetter have something on air at
5.
And, by the same token, youhave to be done at 5.30 because

(10:43):
you can see on the big monitorthe anchors in New York City
getting their nose powdered,getting ready to do the national
news that starts at 5.30.
So you have to be done, and Isay that sort of as a joke, but
it's not.
I had to learn how to be ontime.
But it wasn't just about how tostart on time and how to end on

(11:05):
time, it was the nuance ofthose 28 minutes and 30 seconds.
I had to learn how to pivot.
I had to learn how toprioritize.
I had to learn how tocommunicate something of value
in a short amount of time.
I had to learn people skillsand all this and I'm 23 years
old, not really knowing what I'mdoing.
So my foray into the world ofunderstanding time management

(11:31):
started as a TV news producerwho knew that that's what I was
going to learn from it, amongmany other things.
And then, katie, I ended uptaking a lot of those real world
hands-on skills, some that Idid great naturally, some that I
crashed and burned with, don'twe all?
And I took some of those intothe next phases of my life.
So I took some of those as thenI started my entrepreneurial

(11:55):
journey.
I took some of those as I was afirst-time mom.
I took some of those, as nowI'm working from home with a
baby and a toddler.
Yeah, took some of those andstarted to weave them into my
life as my kids started to go toschool.
And the cool part is now, with a14 and a 16-year-old, not only

(12:16):
am I still every day living outwhat time management looks like
priority management, energymanagement but the best part is
I am watching them.
My kids start to learn how to dothat with their busy schedules
and their friend groups andtheir skills and abilities and

(12:37):
where they want to go in life.
So, yeah, it started way backin TV news and now it has been
such a journey and, just likeanything else, I do want to give
it to the world.
Right, I do want to help everywoman out there, but if I don't
start my own house, then I mightbe missing something, and I

(12:58):
know that's what you're allabout.
It's starting small, with yourown home and your own dinner
around the kitchen table withyour family, then it extends to
your dinner around the kitchentable with your family, then it
extends to your friends, then itextends to your community, and
that's really what I love aboutwhat I do it starts at home and
then, on a day like today, I getto spread it.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
I love it.
I didn't know that that extentof news production was a part of
your background and that worldis so fascinating to me, so
fascinating.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
It's intense.
So let me tell you I've heardthat even though we're going to
talk about how to manage yourtime well today, at the end of
the day, nothing is missioncritical.
Okay, if you are 30 minuteslate to something, if you're 30
seconds late to something,you're not going to lose your
job like I was.
It's not that big of a deal.

(13:50):
So let's just relax a littlebit, shake out our shoulders.
There's no condemnation heretoday.
No shame, none of that.
If you feel like you're a busyperson or not busy enough or
whatever, it's all good.
We're all just going to do ourvery little best.
And what I like to say, katie,is we don't start strong, we
start small.

(14:11):
So if in any way I can help youstart small today in some new
thoughts, some new mind shiftswhen it comes to your time, then
that's what I want to do.
So good.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Well, I thought that this is kind of like a different
kind of a question, but alittle bit of a fun one.
What on social media andculture, are you hearing about
time management that might belike misconceptions or might be
false.
That actually don't work.
Does that make sense, Like?
Is that that actually don'twork?

(14:46):
Does that make sense, Like?

Speaker 3 (14:47):
is that, yeah, take that one.
It makes a lot of sense, and Ithink there's so much pressure.
There's so much pressure, firstof all, to be perfect, and the
name of my podcast isPerfect-ish, because I think we
all live in the ish part right,and social media is the
highlight reel, or it's whatworks for somebody else.

(15:07):
Time management is not aone-size-fits-all and hopefully
some of the tips that I give youtoday One size fits all and
hopefully some of the tips thatI give you today you can start
to apply to yourself personally.
But the deal is, best practicesof time management do not
include you do not have to getup at 4 dark 30 in the morning.
It's not about having theperfect planner and pretty pens

(15:30):
right.
It's not about wearing yourselfout.
It's not about having a busybadge and proving to the world
how busy you are.
Time management doesn't meanthat you are so focused on what
others need that you don't getto fill up your own cup, and so

(15:50):
I think there's a lot of.
Probably the biggest thing isjust pressure, pressure to have
to do it all.
Pressure to have to do it all.
Pressure to have to do it allright.
Pressure to have to be the onethat makes the homemade cupcakes
that are gluten-free,sugar-free, dairy-free, all of
that, and that shows up to theschool when maybe swinging by

(16:12):
the grocery store would havebeen just fine.
So those are some of the thingsthat I know we see.
Yes, we can always learn maybea tip here or there, but when it
comes down to it, I hope that Ihelped just shift a few
priorities for you today thatare real world, lived out.
Like girlfriendy, let's chatover a cup of coffee kind of

(16:37):
tips.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Those are the tips that stick.
Those are the ones that I thinkpeople are craving.
It's really good.
I think you kind of mentionedthis, but there's that trend.
I'm not on TikTok much, but Ispend a lot of time on Instagram
, Kind of like the ones thatlook like a homestead family,
and it's like the mom is like,oh, my husband wants a peanut

(16:58):
butter and jelly sandwich andthey go get the wheat and mill
the wheat.
But my favorite is the peoplethat not mock it, but they play
on it and they do that.
And then the end of the videois them microwaving chicken
nuggets or whatever.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
And I'm like yeah, that's where the ish part comes
in, right, yeah, they're like,yeah, sourcing their ice cubes
from an ice block in Sweden, orsomething.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Oh, no, okay, we're not about that Real talk, real
worlds today.
That's good.
Well, so here's another placethat I want to start.
It seems like some women have a.
I wrote this word in my notes,I don't even know that I know
how to say it Propensity.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Wow, this season is a season of new words.
For me, a propensity, that's agreat word.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
It is, yeah, it's a leaning towards something.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Propensity?
What was the word I used a fewweeks ago, and I looked at my
guest.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
I was like was that right?
A word I really like that alsostarts with a P.
A lot of great words start witha P is precipice.
I just think it's fun to say ithas nothing to do with this,
but precipice is a cool wordPrecipice.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
If you said that to me.
Precipice is a cool word.
Precipice, if you said that tome, I would understand.
But how would you defineprecipice?
It's an incentive for me,callie On the edge of something.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
You're on the precipice of new thinking.
Today, you're on the precipiceof a new way of managing your
time.
Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah, that's a really good one.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
My mom always used the word growing up up asinine.
Oh well, yeah, it's very strong.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Are you going to use that?

Speaker 3 (18:46):
in a sentence.
No, I would rather scratch thatone out of my brain.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
We can fill it with precipice instead.
Let's do it.
That's a great one.
Yeah, oh my gosh.
But some women have apropensity towards being
well-organized, so like kind oflike a natural lean, while
others maybe it doesn't feel asnatural.
Honestly, hospitality issimilar.
Some people feel like it's justa natural overflow.
Some people have to learn moreor work a little bit harder at

(19:11):
it.
So what do you say to thosethat find themselves like
thinking this Is there truth init?
Go for it.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Well for sure, and I think there's a difference, too,
between being busy and beingproductive.
So that's the first littlepoint that I want to make that,
in understanding your view oftime, I want to separate out the
difference between the two,because we can find ourselves

(19:41):
doing busy work all day long.
Maybe we do have a leaningtowards that or we don't right,
but at the end of the day, whatI want to do is encourage you
that when you are focused in andyou're dialed in on something,
that it's something that isproductive, not busy just for
busy's sake, right, and the onlyway, katie, that I know how to

(20:01):
start that with somebody and, bythe way, let me also say that
I'm a big fan of being ascientist, not a judge.
So what I'm getting ready to dois just like a little
experiment.
Let's just see where you dolean one way or the other.
So what I like to start withwith somebody is and they don't

(20:24):
ever like to do this, so let mejust also clear the air I say it
and they're like no, not that,so it is.
I'm just going to say itbecause I owe it to you to speak
truth, but what I do is I havethem do a time audit.
Now, a time audit is similar toa food diary.
Yuck, nobody likes doing them,including me.

(20:47):
But here's the deal.
If you want to lose 5 pounds,10 pounds, and you're like, but
I just don't know why, I'm notbecause I'm eating really
healthy and I'm not.
Well, when you actually do thefood diet and you have to write
it down, then you're like ohokay, maybe you're like me and
you think that if you eat whilestanding it doesn't count.
Right, then that doesn't count.

(21:10):
Why would I?
Why would that count?
Or, if you like, eat the lastcouple of spoonfuls of the
Annie's mac and cheese with theI mean no calories there.
Yeah, no calories, because Ididn't put it in a bowl and it
wasn't for me, right, okay.
But the deal is maybe we're notlosing those five or 10 pounds
because we are eating a handfulof chocolate chips while we're
standing up over the sink, or weare eating more than maybe one

(21:33):
or two spoonfuls of our kids'leftover mac and cheese, and we
don't know that until we writeit down.
So what I have people do tobegin this journey is preferably
for a whole week, I know, butfor a whole week.
I have them write down every 30minutes.
What did you just do?
But again, you're a scientist,not a judge.

(21:56):
And here's what I found, katie.
Number one thing I found nowoman needs more time.
Because I know I've said itlike if I only don't, we say if
I only had more time.
But the deal is, if you hadmore time, you would fill it
with more to-dos and more stuff.
You wouldn't probably view itgraciously and like get more

(22:18):
sleep or spend more, youwouldn't.
I just know you and me andeverybody, we wouldn't.
We wouldn't do one more task,we'd stay up a little bit later
and clean the kitchen.
We do those kinds of thingsright.
We wear ourselves out.
So when you do it, you're goingto find out.
First of all, you do not needmore time.
Second of all, what you'regoing to find out is that you

(22:42):
have a tendency you me tooverestimate, underestimate and
not estimate what we're doing.
Let me give you some examples.
Okay, a lot of us have atendency, when we look at our
time audit, to underestimate theamount of time.
So I'm going to give you anexample.
I have a client.
She was always Katie 20 minuteslate, always, no matter what.
She's not a bad person, she'snot a lazy person, she does not

(23:06):
care about people.
She just could not figure out.
I have always 20 minutes late.
She did her time audit andguess what she found out.
She did her time audit andguess what she found out.
She thought it took her 40minutes to get ready in the
morning.
Every morning, about 40 minutesbefore she had to be somewhere,
she'd start getting ready.
Guess what she found out.
How long do you think it tookher?

(23:27):
An hour, an hour.
That was the missing 20 minutes.
She's not a bad time manager.
She's not, again, none of theselabels that she would give
herself.
She's not bad at it, she's justan underestimator.
Do you see what I mean?

Speaker 1 (23:42):
That's good.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
But Katie, now she has a decision.
Does she either figure out howto shorten her getting ready
time See, she's a scientist, nota judge.
Nobody says you have to take acertain amount of time to get
ready.
So does she say you know what,let me speed it up.
I'm going to shower at nightinstead, or every other day I'm
going to put my hair in aponytail so I don't have to fix
my hair.
She's going to figure out.
Or she could say you know whatI like taking my time, I like

(24:15):
listening to music or having myquiet time on my audio book, or
what I like doing.
I'm going to go ahead and I'mgoing to gift myself an hour.
She just needs to plan that out.
So do you see the difference?
Neither one is right or wrong.
It's whatever is best for you,but you don't know it because
you've been underestimating.
So a couple other quick ones,overestimating, excuse me.
Couple other quick ones.
Overestimating, excuse me.
Underestimating is things likethis I look at a messy kitchen

(24:39):
and I think, oh, my word, that'sgoing to take me five hours to
clean.
So I don't want to do that.
I don't want to spend fivehours.
I don't have five hours.
Therefore, I will cleantomorrow because it's going to
take me too long.
Well, the deal is there's a lie.
And the lie is it's easiertomorrow, or shorter tomorrow,
or better tomorrow.
And the deal is it is nevereasier tomorrow, it's never

(25:02):
shorter tomorrow, as a matter offact, it's probably worse,
because now I'm not only notdoing it, but I'm thinking about
it, so now I'm making it worse.
The truth is, it's alwayseasier in the moment.
So, instead of five hours toclean the kitchen, how about I
spend 15 minutes power cleaningthe kitchen?
And the miracle is I couldprobably get pretty much all of

(25:26):
it done.
So, again, we overestimate, weunderestimate or we just don't
estimate at all, and that's thekind I know that we're probably
talking about.
Like, I just have no idea,callie, where my time is going.
I have no idea, katie, where mytime is going, because I just
don't think that thought and Iget it.
I really do.

(25:46):
And there are certain seasonsthat it's easier to do that than
others.
But where I want to just kindof land this thought and land
this plane, is we do the audit,we start to recognize patterns,
right, I had another client whodid this and she realized that
after each task she had atendency, a propensity, to

(26:10):
scroll social media.
Fine, it's fine, but what shedidn't realize was it was 45
minutes each time that it wouldget her off track.
Like 45 minutes a day, that'salmost an hour a day per task
that she was getting off.
So after we do our time auditand we have reality, it's just a
reality check is all it is, andwe see patterns and we

(26:31):
understand that this, katie, isthe most important thing.
When you look down bird's eyeview at that week, ask yourself
is this week reflect who I say Iwant to be?

Speaker 1 (26:46):
It's good.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Does it reflect who I say?
Or let's say that I was lookingat your week.
I would say you know what?
Katie seems like sheprioritizes this.
This seems like this is a valueto her.
Would I be right?
And the beauty of that is, ifthe answer is yes, like if I say
oh, katie seems likehospitality is important to her.

(27:11):
It seems like making time forfriends is important.
It seems like faith isimportant.
It seems like rest is important.
It seems like and you're like,yeah, girl, that's me Great.
Maybe just a few tweaks here andthere, but for most of us, we'd
look and go gosh, this is sonot who I say I wanted to be.
Why did I spend all that timein the car doing these things

(27:34):
for other people?
Why did I stay up late watchingListen, I love a good Netflix
show, don't get me wrong, but Isay I value rest and sleep, but
I'm killing myself at night bystaying up till midnight, right.
So that's the value and that'show we start to figure out for
ourselves, not time management.
To figure out for ourselves nottime management, but priority

(27:57):
management.
I want my week, I want yourweek, to be a reflection of what
matters most, and we do havethe power to start to do that.
So, katie, that's how it startsA time audit.
We need a baseline, we needsome pattern, we need to see
what we're doing with our time,and once we do now, we can make
it matter.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
It's really good.
What's that quote?
Is it Winston Churchill?
Failure's not final.
You know which one Success isnot.
Well, the part that I'mthinking about is failure's not
final, and I think a lot of uscan feel like we're failing in
the area of time.
Right, and when you ask thequestion, does your time reflect
, like who you are, who you wantto be, or you know your values?

(28:40):
If it didn't last week, it canthis week.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Right, well, and isn't that the truth?
You know, I think too,everybody's going to have a day
that goes off the rails.
Everybody's going to have aweek where kids are homesick.
All of that, everybody's goingto have a week where kids are
homesick.
So we're not talking about theone-offs, we're talking about,
holistically, what does my timelook like?
Right, because we're notjudging ourselves on a day where

(29:08):
, you know, hormones were out ofwhack and I just needed to not
today, that's okay.
What we want to do is createsome boundaries.
We want to create even someplan B.
I'm a big fan of plan Bs, whichis this would be my ideal week,
but if this goes wrong and this, I'm not going to lose the
whole rest of my week.
Plan B looks like this.
So I'll just give you oneexample of that yeah, go, yeah,

(29:32):
I like to.
By the way, I unplug my routerFridays at noon on my computer.
It's a physical act of I amdone working because I work from
home.
I could literally work 24 hoursa day.
I unplug my router.
It symbolizes to me physicallywork is done, I put it away and
on Monday mornings I plug itback in.
But what I do is I leave myselfFriday afternoon from noon till

(29:56):
whenever, as white space, asslow-mo space, as overflow space
, so that if something didn'thappen on Tuesday morning that I
needed to making a doctor'sappointment or whatever I have
like a slush fund, it can gointo Friday, it flows into
Friday.
So, people, I know time blockingis a huge thing.

(30:17):
I'm a huge fan of it.
What I find is most peopledon't block most of their time
because they don't realize thatI block out time for white space
, I block out time for porchsitting with my dog, so
everything is blocked out.
But it doesn't mean I'm busy.
It means that I have plan Bsfor things.

(30:39):
So if things go over time or Ican push it to another time and
that doesn't mess up the wholeweek, even though the day might
be a little bit upside down.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
You know why I think this is so important.
It's just clicking with me.
We're taught in life how tomanage other things like
nutrition, finances, savings andall those types of things that
we're like okay, here aresystems.
Generally speaking, we're nottaught how to manage time, and

(31:10):
years can go by where you'relike I wish I sat on the porch
more.
I wish you know I had someonetell me, like she blocks out
time, like every month or everyweek, whatever it was that she
had to get together with someoneand I'm like it's such, it's
such a it's not necessarily thatit's easy, but it's a quick fix
, right, like if it's a veryattainable life shift, would you

(31:34):
say.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
It is.
And I think, first of all,you're so spot on.
No one is teaching kids inschool, elementary, middle,
nobody.
Nobody is teaching kids thevalue of their time management,
right.
And at the same point, I thinkthat what they are taught we can

(31:55):
feel resistant to.
We don't want to be caged inright, we don't want to be told
what to do, we don't want tohave a boring life, we don't
want to have every minuteaccounted for.
So therefore we think, well,that doesn't feel good to me.
I mean, a few people do likethat.
They're very, very structured.
Most people either don't wantto be structured or they don't

(32:18):
have the luxury of that right,because they do have kids.
Things do come up.
So the deal is working on.
Our time management is notrestrictive.
It actually is so freeingbecause you are aware of what's
most important and you're alsoblocking.
I think of time blocking asliterally like an offensive line

(32:43):
, protecting the quarterback.
Yeah, that's what blocking does.
Blocking says, no, you can'thave this hour.
On Sunday afternoon, I'm takinga nap, and it's blocking the
quarterback.
It's blocking the personcalling the plays, it's blocking
the person calling the shots.
That's what time management andtime blocking does.

(33:05):
It protects you.
It protects your priorities, itprotects your values.
So next time you sit down to doit, instead of feeling like, oh
, this feels like a chore, thisfeels like restrictive.
This is so freeing because nowyou are blocking out bath time
with your son, that you are notgoing to do a work call during,

(33:28):
you're not going to answer thephone for that and, at the end
of the day, that is why we dowhat we do, that's why you do
what you do.
That's why you do what you do.
That's why I teach what I teach, for those values and those
moments.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
I'm sure there are other over-committers listening.
I am a chronic over-committerand I think, because I can be
high capacity, I am veryachievement and goal-driven
right.
But I do unfortunately end updisappointing people at times or
not being able to followthrough with my commitments

(34:00):
because I'm like if this was theonly task, yes, I could do this
by tomorrow, but if I have 15tasks that could be done by
tomorrow, no, they no longer canall be done by tomorrow.
So I think that what timemanagement does?
It helps us to understand ourmental state, our emotional
state, like a lot of people withanxiety or I don't know, like

(34:25):
things like that.
Like looking at the timeblocking, you're like whoa,
actually that does make a lot ofsense why I'm feeling.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
so I don't know anxious, right, about my days,
anxious, overwhelmed, pressured,all of the things, and there's
a counterbalance Every yes is ano, every no is a yes, and it's
not just one or the other.
And I even have a friend who,when she does graciously say no

(34:55):
to somebody, she declines which,by the way, there's a lot of
really nice ways to do that.
First and foremost, I do teachthat if somebody asks you to do
something and you're not 100%sure if you have the capacity or
the time or you want to, youjust ask them.
If you can have 24 hours tocheck your schedule and do that,
it just buys you a little bitof breathing room, right?

(35:17):
If you decide later that it'snot your best, yes, katie, you
can even just say something likeyou know what?
I was able to look at myschedule and I'm just not able
to do it at this time.
Thank you so much for asking me.
And that's all you say, right?
Well, my friend, she has aseparate little calendar this is
so great and she writes downeverything she said no to on the

(35:40):
calendar so that when that timecomes up, she looks at it and
she goes.
I'm so glad I don't have to godo that.
Like literally she's like, yes,I don't have to go volunteer at
the whatever.
It's literally her, her way oflike celebrating that she said
no, which I think is awesome andit's brilliant.
That is awesome.

(36:01):
That's so good how many times dowe do the opposite?
We look at our schedule like,oh no, I have to go do whatever.
She looks at it and she goesyes, I don't have to do that.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
That's really good.
That's really good.
It's important to set up thingslike that, as we're especially
learning how to enforcedifferent boundaries, because
then you could.
It's just a good reinforcer.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
It's a great reinforcer.
Yeah, so just to remember yes,a yes is a no, a no is a yes,
both at the same time, and thatwe can very consciously say, oh,
I'm not able to do it at thistime.
Maybe ask again, or?
Thank you so much for thinkingof me.
I'm already scheduled.
I'm already booked Because youare, because you've blocked
everything, and so you might bebooked to watch a movie with

(36:44):
your husband, but you're booked,yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Which is so important .
What is that?
Another one of?
Just like those social mediaquotes, but it's like your time,
your money, like your scheduleand your bank account are the
most telling things about you,right, and so go ahead.
No, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, no, I used to say it like when you looked at
your week at a glance or yourmonth at a glance.
What does it say about you,right?
Yeah?
We used to say look at yourcheckbook, I could know you and
your priorities.
People just don't usecheckbooks anymore, but because
where are you spending yourmoney?
I could tell you who that kindof person is.
No, it's exactly the same.

(37:23):
I used to say that, yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
And so when you're talking about like watching a
movie with your husband for anhour or going you know I love
going to vineyards with friends,like it's kind of our thing
here I feel like some peoplemight cringe hearing that you
block off that time or that youwould say no, because that's
scheduled.
But it's really important forus to step back and look at that

(37:44):
.
It really is, because time it'snot selfish, it's I don't know,
it's solving a lot of the painpoints in our life that we have.
That do you know what I'mtrying to say?
We have to reframe the way thatwe look at time management, it's

(38:05):
not selfish, it's not rigid,it's grabbing a hold of the
things that we value.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
It is.
It's such a valuable asset thatso many times just goes
unnoticed because we just wedon't plan out for it, we don't
live for it, we don't and and Ithink that's what I want to
emphasize the most that we'reI'm not suggesting that you do
this so that you're the mostefficient person.

(38:31):
Even although I love efficiency.
You're not doing this so thatyou can check things off a list.
You're not doing this again.
So you're so structured andyour alarm goes off at you know
those like wake up with me, getready with me.
You know, like okay, thatyou're making your shake at
three, 30 in the morning andthen you're going to.
That's not about that's notwhat it's about.
It's so that you are not so outof capacity and burned out that

(38:54):
for crying out loud that youcan't go to the vineyard with
your girlfriends on a Saturdaybecause you already committed to
something else or you'reexhausted.
The whole point is so that youcan say yes to the most
important things and it's justshifting back into that.
We don't have control over howmany hours we have or how many

(39:15):
minutes we have, but we do havecontrol over the boundaries that
we put on them and the peopleand the things that matter most
to us that we put in there, andthat's just really what I want
to encourage everybody.
I'll just say one other quickthing to an example, a practical
example why it's personal.
Time management is personal.

(39:36):
I was talking with a client andevery time management coach I've
ever heard talks about planningon Sundays.
Right Sunday night, you do yourthing, you do your weekly plan,
your meal plan, your whatever.
So I was talking to her andshe's like I am tired on Sunday
nights, my brain is not there.
I just want to chill with mykids on my couch, I just want to
like.
I'm folding the last of thelaundry and all of a sudden I

(39:57):
realized I said well, when isyour energy better for that?
She's like well, maybe Fridays,before I leave work.
Oh, my word, katie, that hasrevolutionized my life and how I
teach people to do it.
We now plan and I say we inquotes.
We, as in the whole world thatI ever talk to, we plan on

(40:20):
Fridays.
I plan on Fridays before I quitfor the week, before a weekend,
for the day, because I'm just ahigher, better energy.
At that moment I can thinkabout when am I going to feed my
family.
Next week.
I can go ahead and make mygrocery list to pick up on
Sunday night or Monday morningor whatever.
I can map out my week withoutthe pressures from somebody else
of, like kids, forgetting thatthey did that.
I have more freedom andflexibility and mental capacity

(40:43):
to do it.
So those are some of the things, too, that make it much more
attainable and approachable.
So, yeah, we've all shifted now,and I know that you'll let
everybody know I've got freeprintables If you like.
I want to make it pretty.
I've got brain drains andweekly plan sheet printables for
you.
You can put them on your iPad,you can print them out, but we

(41:05):
plan on Fridays.
That way, guess what you enjoyyour weekend.
Sunday night, you are in themoment.
You're there knowing thatMonday is going to kick off
strong and great, and you've gotit, and it's not going to be
perfect.
But it is going to kick offstrong and great, and you've got
it.
And it's not going to beperfect, but it is going to get
those priorities in when at allpossible and if not this week,

(41:26):
next week.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
That's really helpful and, I think, refreshing you a
lot of people to think that itdoesn't have to be Sundays.
There's this huge Sunday thingcook every meal for the week and
plan your.
It's like you're losing thewhole day.
Colby and I do have somethingin our house.
If we don't grocery shop onSundays, we realize that we end
up eating out more during theweek, and so that is our one
thing.

(41:48):
Um, but man, if I could do themeal plan on Friday, I feel like
a lot of people could eat.
Could totally relate to havingmore brain capacity.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
So just try it.
It is like the most freeingthing ever.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
That's amazing.
This is like kind of connected,kind of random, but I think a
lot of people could understandthis.
So last year I've always wantedto be a reader.
I admire readers.
I went to a media trainingrecently where they were
teaching us about publicspeaking and they said one of
the untold keys to being anamazing public speaker is to be

(42:24):
an avid reader.
They said like the sharper yourbrain is right, the sharper you
could be with your words andthere's more to draw from.
So that really resonated withme and sun's in my face.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
It's getting ready to come in these Florida windows
too.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
I'll be dodging it in a minute.
And so last year I was like,okay, I could do a book a month,
I could do a book a month.
Year ended, I read two and ahalf books and I was like this
is ridiculous, because I was notthat busy, I just wasn't.
I wasn't intentional with mytime.
And so I realized I don't havean alarm for everything in my

(43:03):
day, so I don't want people tohear that.
Um, but every night our routineis kind of like we wind down,
we watch a show, colby takes ashower, we all know.
The husband, like stereotype, isin the bathroom for like 45
minutes and I'm like, what am Idoing during that time?
That is a great time for me tosit and to read my book, unwind

(43:23):
for the day.
And so I do have an alarm on myphone that goes off around that
time and I'm like man, I'm justgrabbing a hold of what's
important to me it's not.
And when I do read, when I dohave that time and I'm plowing
through those books and checkingoff my list, I feel so I don't
even know what word accomplished, just proud of myself working

(43:44):
towards a goal, keeping my mindsharp.
It's like mom time for me aftera day with Wesley, and so I
know I've talked to a few peoplethat are like I wish I was
readers too.
I'm like let's just all do thistogether, even if it's five
pages, whatever it is, it'spossible.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
It's possible and it's gratifying, and that's why
I say start small, not strong,because discipline can only get
you so far.
Right, but habit.
Habit is what fuels you, andwhat you're doing, katie, is
habit stacking.
Your husband's habit is to getin the shower.
You're just literally adding onto that very thing.

(44:23):
It triggers you.
Right, he gets in the shower, Iget my book out.
Something happens like this.
I do something else, and I'm ahuge fan of habit stacking.
It's like Pavlov's dog right,you hear the bell, then you eat
the food.
Same kind of thing.
And whether it's five pagesthat you get in or 50 pages that
you get in, that's not thepoint.
The point is that you've nowcarved out that time habit

(44:46):
stacked.
It's brilliant, well done.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Well, thank you.
I know you said it's brilliant.
I'm like I'll take it my oneminute a week.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
And those are the little time management hacks or
tips or things Like for me.
I walk.
In the morning I go for a walkand the first couple miles I
work Like I work, I get myproductivity out.
On the way home, the nextcouple miles I pray out loud.
I mean people might think I'mcrazy walking.
I don't care, but that's how I.

(45:15):
If I don't do it then and if Idon't stack it, then it's girl,
it is not going to happen and ifI don't say it out loud I'm
going to get distracted.
I'm going to look at my phone.
I have to put my phone away andI just say like good morning
God the Father, good morningJesus the Son, good morning Holy
Spirit.
And so that's just habitstacking.

(45:37):
It's doing it because it is apriority, but it's also setting
reminders for yourself that thisis how I do it and when I do it
.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Yeah, this is such a random, well connected but
random side note, but I feellike it might encourage someone.
So, our landlords they're anolder couple.
She was getting a kneereplacement and I knew I just
wanted to love on them and bringthem dinner when they came home
, because they were going to belimited.
Her recovery was a lot and so Ibrought dinner over and she
goes.
Katie, I have no idea how youhad time to do this and the
reality is it was the busiestweek of my business to date, but

(46:18):
I planned ahead of it, Iplanned ahead for it, and the
reality was I had to cook dinnerfor my family anyways, and so I
picked a dinner that was goingto be easy for me to duplicate,
easy to transport, something wewould enjoy eating, we know
would nourish them and encouragethem.
And I think that, as we'retalking about like relationships
and time and all this stuff,there are ways to habit stack or

(46:42):
to, you know, just be a littlebit more intentional with the
way that we're planning some ofthese things, to keep fueling
relationships, even whenschedules are busy.
You know things like that.
So I hope that's anencouragement to someone.
The sun is blaring in my faceright now.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
I call that the.
How can I instead of the?
Can I?
I call it the?
How can I?
Yeah?
So elaborate on that for me alittle bit, and then yeah, yeah,
I mean when we ask ourselvesthe question of like can I?
Okay, so like, oh, can I makedinner for my neighbor?
You know, oh, I don't think so.
This is such a busy week.
But when you, when you add inthat one little word, how your

(47:21):
brain starts to go intobrainstorming and problem
solving and resourcefulness, andthe how piece is assuming you
can right, the can I is assumingyou can't, the how can I is
assuming I can, and then usuallyjust without even having
practiced it, then that habitstacking comes in, or that aha

(47:44):
moment comes in, or and that'sespecially if it's something of
value, so that's what you did.
You just said I want to makedinner for her, not can I?
How can I?
And that's what you did.
Wow, see, you are, you are.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
I do some things right, no, but I know that's.
That is one thing that I hearpeople say, like, oh, I'd love
to bring dinner, but I'd love to, but yeah, there's a lot that
we can elaborate on there, but Ithink that people could I don't
know tweak that to whateversituation you're working with
right now.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
When it comes to community, yeah, and it's also
just as good to find out whattheir favorite sushi is and door
dash it to them.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Such a good reminder, Callie Yep.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Yeah, from her own experience.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
No, but it's.
It's so real.
People just want to beremembered and it's not.
It's not as difficult toremember people as we make
ourselves believe.
Yeah, Good, good.
Well, what else might we havemissed?
Time management wise, that youwould want to encourage the
everyday woman with?

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Yeah, I think really, just again, give ourselves
grace.
I mean, how many hats do wewear?
Right?
We wear so many hats, so,honestly, one should be a crown.
Put that crown on, and I'm justhere to fix your crown a little
bit, if it's coming off.
When you think about all thethings that you do accomplish,

(49:11):
how worthy and of value you areto the world, I just don't want
it to be so much that we do losesight of what is the most
important, and so I just want togo back to that.
I want you to think aboutstarting small.
What is one small little habityou could stack?
What is one small little thingthat you've been overestimating,

(49:36):
that you can get right on track?
What is one small little thingthat you could start to plan?
Maybe on Fridays, you literallyplan out your meals for the next
week.
Maybe on Fridays, you plan outwhen are you going to have your
quiet time, when are you goingto have your date night, and
then that time block is anoffensive line.
They are blocking you fromanything that could come your

(49:57):
way and distracting your way.
You have permission now to saythat you already have something
scheduled during that time, andthen just know that, when you
look at your schedule as a whole, to say what is it that I value
and if there's some thingsmissing, that's what I want you
to start to put in to practice.

(50:17):
And again, it's not about whattime you wake up or what time
you go to sleep, although I dosay prioritize sleep, especially
whenever we get.
Make sure that that's in there.
And it's again not about havinga perfect schedule, but what it
is about is looking andunderstanding priorities and
energy, and so I just want toencourage you.

(50:37):
Probably everybody on here isdoing almost everything right.
This is just going to be alittle small tweak here or there
.
That's going to let you breathea little bit more.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
We can all use that exhale Such powerful, timely
reminders for so many of us.
Well, we end each of ourconversations with the same
three questions, and I want tohear the answer to yours as well
.
The first one is somethingyou've eaten recently and loved.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Okay, so my daughter is 14 and she loves to bake, and
last night she made somehomemade chocolate chip, nutella
stuffed cookies.
I am telling you, I wolfed downone right before this and now I
feel like I deserve another.
So that, and then one otherthing that I like drinking

(51:28):
lately I've discovered poppies.
I don't know where I've been,but it has to be in a fancy
glass with a glass straw.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Okay, yeah, okay.
So I love poppies.
What flavor do you like?

Speaker 3 (51:35):
So I like that raspberry rose or something.
I like that one.
I like orange vanilla, I likethat one.
Yeah, yeah, I'm stillexperimenting but I am too.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
I'm new to the world, but I love it and I am for sure
.
A fancy glass, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
And a glass straw.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Okay, I don't own a glass straw, I need one.
Yes, you must, I need one.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Okay, yeah, you need like six different colors.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
There's a cute gift shop near us pearls and plaid
and they sell all like Stanleystraws, Like if you want to like
switch them out and make thempretty, and I've loved that.
But a glass straw, Okay,Another level.
Oh, that's really fun.
I know I was talking to areally good friend of mine.
She's like people might thinkyou're an alcoholic because

(52:25):
usually I have a drink on mypodcast out of a tumbler, like a
wine tumbler.
I'm like I am not downingalcohol every episode.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Hey, remember, we're not judges, just scientists.
What is in that?
Remember, we're not judges justscientists?

Speaker 1 (52:39):
What is in that?
It's water, not vodka, myfriend, something you found to
be beautiful lately.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
So one of the things that I talk about with time
management is the concept ofpolish, the present, which means
that you can find beauty in thelittle bitty things.
It doesn't have to be on avacation or anything major.
And the other day my daughterwas playing piano, practicing
piano at home, and she asked meto listen.
And you know how it is when akid wants you to do something.

(53:07):
They ask you to do it and thenthey keep side-eyeing you to
make sure you're not on yourphone and that you're watching
them.
So I made sure I put my phoneway away, I sat on my floor and
I just leaned my head backagainst the wall, I closed my
eyes and I listened to her playand it was just.
It was such a beautiful momentand I'm so glad I didn't miss it

(53:30):
, because I have missed it inthe past.
Being real, that was thebeautiful thing.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Sitting there listening to her Wow, wow, wow,
and it's one of those thingsthat, even if she never brings
up that moment again, like itsticks, those things stick and
are formative for them too.
So, wow, very beautiful.
Last but not least, somethingyou have discovered recently
that you think everyone shouldknow about whether it's an
Amazon purchase, a Netflix show,anything fun.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Okay, I'm going to do one of each First on Amazon.
I don't know why it took methis long, but I have one of
those olive oil, or I useavocado oil, misters.
Okay, I don't know why, katie,but I just love it.
I never used it and that's agame for me.
Okay, and glass straws, whichyou can also buy six on amazon.

(54:20):
Um, I just finished.
Okay, I do like a good truecrime.
This can be real, and I alsolike documentaries.
So, apple cider vinegar, and Ialso like apple cider vinegar
and like a shot of it at nightand I think it's amazing.
But there's a new series onnetflix.
Well, well, maybe it's not newApple Cider Vinegar.
It is crazy town.

(54:42):
I'm looking it up.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
I can't believe I haven't heard of that.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Yeah, it's about six episodes.
You got a time block in.
You're going to watch it.
I suggest watching it and thendo a deep dive into the real
story.
So it's inspired by a truestory.
A woman in Australia and thetitle of the show is weird, so
don't let that stop you.
But yeah, Okay.
I love a good Bible study andthen I love a good true crime.

(55:10):
Balance it's all about balance.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Oh my goodness.
Okay, my husband Colby alwayscalls me out because I get so
like I dive into those shows andthen I live paranoid for the
rest three months, the nextthree months, you know.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Yeah, am I paranoid?
It's bananas.
It's crazy, it is.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Okay, okay, I will like it.
Well, where do you want to sendpeople to follow along for more
?

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Yeah, I love it.
Well, you can follow me onsocial.
It's.
It's at Callie Brigham.
You can also go to my website.
But, yeah, just follow me onsocial.
Send me a DM, Let me know.
I'd love to.
I'd love to get to know Katie,all of your friends, I'd love to
do that.
You can serve that and I'm I'llhave Katie put in the show
notes, the brain drain to helpyou plan on Fridays.

(55:53):
So you can check that out and Iwill say.
If anybody does want to dive alittle deeper into this, you can
DM me for a free call and wecan see if I can serve you in a
more personal capacity with yourtime.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
That's the best.
Let's fill up our schedule,friends.
Well, thank you guys.
So much for tuning in this weekand see you next week.
Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know
The Joe Rogan Experience

The Joe Rogan Experience

The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.

24/7 News: The Latest

24/7 News: The Latest

The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.