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July 23, 2025 41 mins
When job candidates start looking (and sounding) like bots, HR needs to don its detective hat—complete with newspaper proof-of-life checks. Join Claudine, Lisa, and CPO Caroline Werner for an inside look at AI-driven hiring, retention, and why managing bots might just land on your resume someday. Episode SummaryJoin Claudine Wong, Lisa Bernard, and Chief People Officer Caroline Werner for a candid, cleverly insightful conversation on how AI is reshaping HR. From applicant tracking systems sorting thousands of resumes in mere moments to bot imposters sneaking past interviews and onto payroll, Caroline shares behind-the-scenes stories of authenticity tests and AI misfires. She outlines why soft skills—empathy, adaptability, communication—remain the human advantage in an increasingly automated world, and why future leaders might be managing teams of both people and digital workers. Key Takeaways HR’s evolving role: Managing AI tools and championing organizational AI adoption. Bot applicants & authenticity checks: Real candidates, fake personas, and creative interview safeguards. Efficiency meets oversight: AI speeds up tasks—but humans must catch errors and keep things genuine. Soft skills still rule: Emotional intelligence and resilience can't be coded out. Leadership redefined: Future managers may need to oversee both human employees and "digital workers." 00:00 – Kicking things off 02:20 – What is a modern Chief People Officer? 05:00 – ATS systems: efficiency with pitfalls 10:50 – Fake resumes and interview horror stories 12:55 – “Newspaper proof-of-life” video checks 18:00 – AI-assisted performance reviews 26:00 – The unbeatable power of soft skills 31:40 – Managing humans and bots 35:00 – Balancing hope and AI anxiety 36:58 – Final hack reveal & closing thoughts Lisa Bernard (a.k.a. Demystify AI)  Instagram: @demystifyai Claudine Wong Enjoyed the conversation? Subscribe to Making Sense of AI Together wherever you listen. Drop us a : Which soft skill do you think stands strong in the AI era? Connect with Caroline Werner and LogicGate on LinkedIn.  Timestamps & Highlights Memorable Quotes“We’ve even gotten through two rounds of interviews… only then to think, ‘I don’t think this is a real person.’” – Caroline“Soft skills become a hundred times more critical.” – The human edge in the AI era Guest SnapshotCaroline Werner is Chief People Officer at LogicGate, an AI-powered enterprise governance and risk platform. Formerly with Korn Ferry and Hydric, she brings deep expertise in people strategy—and a knack for navigating AI’s quirks in hiring. Connect With UsStay in touch and keep the AI conversation going: What Now? Enjoyed the conversation? Subscribe to Making Sense of AI Together wherever you listen. Drop us a : Which soft skill do you think stands strong in the AI era? Connect with Caroline Werner and LogicGate on LinkedIn. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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