Inside A Whiskey Advent Exchange And Holiday Cocktail Playbook

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You are Jamie Flanagan, the one and only.

Yeah.

Matt Fox (00:43):
But here's the thing we all all we all like to
travel.
We all like to go out and dofun things.
And I am uh I'm a little bit onthe jealous side for E L L O.
Yeah, a little jelly because uhAugust.
Um he's in Poland.

Yeah, yeah.

Matt Fox (00:58):
In Krakow, Krakow.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Matt Fox (01:02):
With uh cat and uh her family, yeah.
So a little jelly, but I'm soexcited.

It's fun to see uh he's posting pictures as the
adventure unfolds.
Yeah, uh and uh safe travels,brother.
Uh enjoy yourself.
We'll see you next time around.
Uh but yeah, so but it's uhit's us tonight.
Yes, the OGs.
Uh it's uh people listenwhenever, wherever, however.
But uh, we're heading intoDecember of 2025.

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Oh man, and uh looking at theholidays.

Matt Fox (01:31):
We're yeah, they're still we're still looking at
them.
We haven't quite got past themyet.

Oh my god, yeah.
So it's uh but it's fast andfurious.
Thanksgiving was later thanever, so there's a shorter
distance between the two.

Matt Fox (01:41):
Yeah, it felt pretty late.
And I gotta ask you, how wasyour turkey day?
Did you host again this year?
All 35,000 people coming up?

No, no, no, that's Christmas Day.

Matt Fox (01:50):
Oh, it's Christmas.

Christmas Day is uh insanity for the Flanagan
household.
Uh, we import every O'Grady inthe Tri-County area.
Oh, oh, oh grady, okay.
All right, got it now.
They get all those O'Grady'sand Serwinskies in there.
Um, and I'm the lone Flanagan,Colleen by injection, right?

Matt Fox (02:08):
Some boom boom boom.
So, but you you you bring theIrish to the party, is that what
you're saying?
All right, that's fair.

Oh grady's.
They're pretty Irish folk, butuh yeah, so um, yeah, very,
very, very much so by injection,yeah.

Matt Fox (02:26):
That's uh pretty awful.
Yeah, it was awful.

Yeah, but uh so yeah, so we just visited, so all
we did was just uh vegetable,and we're like, hey, a
vegetable, and then that's it.
So it's uh it's easy.
Thanksgiving's easy peasy.
We don't have to clean.
I barely even put pants on.
Nice.
Uh so colleagues like youprobably should put pants on.
I'm like, all right, I'll putboth I'll put both my legs in.

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All right, all right.
I get off the couch.
It was a nice, it was a reallylong holiday break.
They gave us the Wednesday off.
So Wednesday and throughMonday.
So it was a good six six daythat's great shenanigans there.
Are you well?

Matt Fox (03:04):
Are you well rested?
You didn't do anything at allover the weekend at all, right?

Ran like a madman, yeah.
Uh so there was one thing thatuh I I did I got involved in uh
a couple weeks ago, threw myname into the the ring and uh
made the cut, as it were.
And uh Facebook, there's allthese different bourbon clubs,
and I'm sure wherever you'relistening, right?
I'm sure there's bourbon clubsin and around you.
Find them, they're fun, they uhhelp you find the honey holes

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and what have you.
Sure.
By injection.
Go on, okay.
Um, so I'm just trying to byinjection was my nickname in
college.
So uh that's uh yes, there is auh uh bourbon club.
Uh the I think it's called theMichigan Breakfast Club, and I
don't know why they callthemselves that.

(03:50):
Okay.
Um, but it's a bourbon club,and or maybe it's a bourbon
breakfast.
No, it's Michigan BreakfastClub.
Uh, but yeah, so they uh theythey were doing an advent bottle
exchange.
Interesting, and I did not knowwhat that was.
But I said I'll take part.

Matt Fox (04:04):
Was it full-on bottles being exchanged, or were you
talking you know, smallertasters?

So you get 25 people for the 25 days of
Christmas, right?
And everybody selects a bottle.
Uh-huh.
Uh, and they're sometimes theyput parameters on it.
Okay.
Uh, it has to be this vet muchvalue, or it has to be it has to
be a bourbon, or it has to be astore pick, or it has you know
wow.
So those rules, sometimes,right?
So, but this time uh the onlyrules were it has to be a

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whiskey.
Okay, um, so they were therides were okay, you know.
Um, if you wanted to go down ascotch avenue, you could if you
wanted to go, I don't know.
I don't I don't think they weregoing scotches, but I think
they were staying with whiskeywhiskeys.

Matt Fox (04:46):
August would be all over the scotch, yeah, right.
Or it'd be all over him oneyeah, yeah.

All over the floor, uh-huh.
And then uh, so yeah, so itcould be an Irish whiskey.
I don't know.
So, but it was uh oh mygoodness, whiskeys.
So, yeah, so you you buy abottle.
The parameters were it had tobe a whiskey, and it had it was
uh $75 or more for the bottle.
Wow, so you know, so nobody'sbuying like a you know bottom
ankle biter and Evan Williamsand people uh uh shut up.

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Just kidding.
So, and then you get a bottle,and then you get okay, little
sampler bottles, and you breakyour fifth up interest into 25
uh bottles, and then you gosomeplace and everybody lays out
all their bottles, andeverybody grab one, one, one
because one bottle is what 750milliliters, right?
Yep, you get you get about 26and a half pores out of a

(05:37):
bottle, right?
When you got the shaky McShakepour, uh you're running you're
run a little low.
Oh, spilled some more.
Ah, spilled some more, ah,spilled some more.
That's the fox, that's the foxpour that's spilled.
So that's the fox pour all overthe counter while I'm doing
this.
Yeah, I have funnels andeverything, but still.
Um that's how I pour.

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So I fill up the you fill upthe bottles, and then you go and
you exchange them, right?
And sometimes it's like, andthis time we're doing it with
doing it, we're doing it blind.

Matt Fox (06:07):
Okay.

So I have if people watching on the Facebook
there's a yeah, you can see it.
It's uh, so you can see there'sa whole 20 25.
Actually, there's 26.
There's a bonus bottle inthere, okay.
Um, so and everybody therethey're different uh shapes, and
some people go crazy town withyou know they dipped in wax.
Yeah, I see.
Uh, but you're just supposed tonumber it, right?
So you're supposed to numberyour bottle.

Matt Fox (06:29):
So here's the crazy question
what in there?

No, I don't.
I just know that this is numbertwo number 22 for that I'm
gonna drink on the 22nd, and uh,so on the Facebook group.
So the Facebook is gonna beactive, right?
So you you do but bottle one onday one, okay?

Matt Fox (06:44):
Bottle two on day two, and they tell you what bottle
it is.

So sad news, Matt.
Uh huh.
Christmas is not tomorrow.

Matt Fox (06:51):
Well, okay, so I was gonna tell you my so my advent
calendar going according to myadvent calendar.
Christmas is two flipping daysaway.

Man, you kind of broke into it, a little heavy
there.
Uh that's so cool.
All right, yeah.
So that was almost like anornament, right?
Can you tell there were acouple women in the group?

Matt Fox (07:09):
That's fine.
There you go.
I put that on my tree.
Yeah, I know.

Colleen would be like, what the hell is that?

Matt Fox (07:14):
It's not vodka.

I can't drink it to the 19th, honey.
All right.
So uh, so you got all theselittle bottles.
So on the Facebook uh group, uhyou try it during the day, and
at some point, either either thethe morning of the second or
late on the first, uh-huh, uhthey'll say, All right, bottle
number one was uh uh contributedby so-and-so.
Uh it was this, right?

(07:36):
So everybody's like, I triedit, I think it's this, I think
it's that.
So it's a day full of I thinkand I guesses.

Matt Fox (07:42):
That's kind of a month-long tasting event.
Yes, yes.
I love that.

Yes, and I I think it's somebody in the
because there's a couple guys,Chris Rundy and uh uh Patrick is
uh the other Patrick.
Okay, Patrick S.
Uh, very long name.
Uh he's a big part of theBreakfast Club.

Theme Song (08:01):
Okay.

And uh uh there's a and Greta was there,
our friend Greta Harper fromDiagio Spirits.
She was there.
People started talking aboutspirits, so they're like, Do you
know anything about bourbon?
I'm like, does she knowanything about bourbon?
Let me show you something.
Hey, we got a ringer here.
That's uh I don't know crap,but I'm boy, I'm calling in this

(08:22):
lady to help out.

Matt Fox (08:23):
I'm just about ready to call fire marshal Bill and be
like, let me tell yousomething.

So um, and then I I I put them in the box in
order.
Okay, but then my box tippedover, and these are kind of all
over the place.
So there's two, three, four.
Where's six?
Oh, yeah.
Maybe this is number one.
Number one, number one, numberone, number one.
There's number one, so there'snumber one.

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Um, and then I mind where'stwenty-one.
Twenty-one, that's me.
That's you.
So I had the two, I have thetwo ounce bottles, but you're
only pouring one ounce in it.
So it looks so I didn't.
I didn't when I ordered it, Ithought I was getting one ounce
bottles, but uh I ended upgetting two ounce bottles, so
they're like janky, janky.
But I wasn't the only one.
There are other janky half pourtwo ounce bottles, and well,

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and like the ornament one,there's like yeah, but anyhow.
Um, so yeah, so they uh uh uhone ounce of one ounce pores,
and uh because yeah, you gottabe careful with it because it
is, it's like you get like 26pores out of a out of a bottle.
You gotta be super careful, anduh, but I had a little funnel
and and uh I did all right.

Matt Fox (09:29):
So you get you get rid of that one bottle and you grab
another one, make a littlemore, yeah.

We gotta buy, then you'd have to buy two
bottles of whatever it was.
No, you just so I can't tellyou what mine was.
I can tell you where I got it,though.
I got it at Keiko's.
I I went in and I was like,Hey, Joe, Joe was in there, Joe
Keiko's, and I'm like, uh, I'mdoing this, I'm doing this
bottle exchange.
I'm thinking about this guyover here.
He's like, it's gonna be a goodone.
That's uh, people are crazyabout this, bourbon club people

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crazy about it.

Matt Fox (09:57):
How far how far over the $75 price point did you go?

I was uh $89.99.

Matt Fox (10:04):
Nice.

So it was a $90 bottle.

Matt Fox (10:06):
Okay, so um if I had to take a guess, uh $90 bottle
from Caicos, you probably got uhyourself into uh an old
forester of some sort, maybe.

I got myself into some bourbon, that's for
sure.
It is it is a straight upbourbon.
All right, uh, it is uh it's uhyep, so there you go.
Um, but yeah, so Joe led me tothat.
So I love that I'm sure allthose people will be listening.
Yes.
You can tell.
Oh, I didn't bring a couplegrab those two of those baby
Glenn Karen's, and we could trythis if you wanted.

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You can try to do number onewith me.

Matt Fox (10:41):
Then I'll share with you what actually I got for my
birthday last month.

All right, I'm gonna do that.
So there's a cool bot, butthere's a cool some people went
crazy with these bottles, andit's like uh number 14, day
number 14.
They had uh they did the wax,they had their own little wax
dipper at home, and it it's agreen bottle, so very festive
green, and then a red wax.
He goes, I I did that forChristmas.
I'm like, dude, that's sofunny.

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And then you know, you can tellthe guys, the single guys,
because it's just like is itwrapped?
Painter painter tape andsharpie.

Matt Fox (11:14):
Oh, that'll that that'll savor the flavor.

Oh, yeah.
At least mine.
Oh, this isn't the decorativeone.
My bottles came with likelittle labels, and actually,
most of them were likedecorative, and they had like
little scallops on them.
I took the janky one, so yeah,I left the good ones out there.
You accessorized, so yeah,yeah, some bottles, and then
they people are putting stickerson them and stuff, and it was
it's it's fun.
And then we hung out andchit-chat, and then people

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because these were forexchanging, right?
And you fill you you spend thebottle on filling these baby
bottles, and and so you wouldget there, and but everybody
brought like a bottle too.
Um to share with everything,yeah, tasters, right?
And some were fresh, some werefresh crack, some were open, and
everybody I didn't know howthat worked, right?
So I was like, uh, I broughtcheese, I brought I brought a

(11:58):
straight guy cheese tray.
Did you bring adult?
You brought adult lunchables.
I brought adult lunchables,yes.
Um, just to to share, right?
Because I was like, well, youknow, there's probably gonna be
a lot of purpose in thesepeople's basement.
I don't know if you saw Iposted a couple pictures and I
tried to get their bar in thebackground.

Matt Fox (12:13):
Was it on your Facebook page?

Holy shiitake mushrooms, it might have been on
the man cave.
All right, I'll have to take alook.
Holy shiitake mushrooms, lotsof lots of stuff going on.
Man, they had so much booze.

Matt Fox (12:27):
Waste not want not.

All right, he's going home with me.
Do I save these?
Oh, these are plastic.
Do I save these little bottles?

Matt Fox (12:36):
Yeah, you might you might do the next one.
You might travel, yeah.

And I so I'm in the kitchen, I'm filling up my
bottles, and Colleen's doingwhat are you doing?
You making roadies to hide inyour car?

Matt Fox (12:47):
That that's that's appropriate.
That's an appropriate questionfor someone who's pouring small
bottles.
Fair question.
Fair question.
It's an appropriate question.

It's not like I'm going golfing or something.
It's like, although now thatI've done that, I'm like, hey,
there you go.

Matt Fox (13:01):
Save them from when you're golfing.
Making your own so I I gottatell you, these little baby Glen
Karens from from uh our guestwho was here uh our last
episode.
You said it correctly.
I was reading it, but yeah,these are these are pretty fun.

I guess yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Matt Fox (13:21):
All right, ooh.
So this is number one in youradvent calendar.

There's a number one coming at the top of the
pop coming in at the morrownight for the second one.

Matt Fox (13:32):
Yeah, you want.
Absolutely.
We'll see.

It's it doesn't smell very strong, but it has a
nice smell.
That's got some warmth.
It it's yeah, it's it's um, ithas more of a taste than it has
a nose.
Oh, I'm getting um orangey.

Matt Fox (13:52):
It's a really layery nice on on the back end.

I gotta say, I'm getting some orangey.

Matt Fox (13:56):
Yeah, orangey.
It's like a little blood, bloodorange almost.

Aren't you glad you had some bourbon with me?

Matt Fox (14:03):
Yes.
I am all right.
Okay, so the no now there nowthat I've tasted, there's a
little bit more of a nose.
Yeah, there's more of a nose,but the nose is real strong.
But the the warmth on the backend, though, I'm not sure if
you're if it's hitting your backteeth pretty well like mine.

It's it's crawling across the roof of my
mouth in the back.

Matt Fox (14:26):
What'd you call me?

Yep.
All right.
Uh I don't know what proof areyou putting this at?
I should probably take somenotes on this.

Matt Fox (14:33):
Um proof-wise, I'd say probably about a buck.
I'd say between a buck ten anda buck fifteen.

Oh, really?
Yeah.
Just because of the warmth.
I was putting a was I wasmaking it a bottle of 100.
100.
100 proof?
100.

Matt Fox (14:45):
All right.
Well I'm gonna stick with myoriginal taste test.

Okay, and I I I taste some orange.
I'm getting some orange, maybea little banana in there.

Matt Fox (14:55):
Got some bananas.

What about um the bananas is gonna lead to me?
Maybe this might be a JackDaniels product.
Is this a Jack Daniels product?

Matt Fox (15:04):
I you you tell me.
I I'm going blind on this.
As are you, it it could bebecause of it's got that Jack
Daniels warmth feel on it.
Like a Jack Daniels barrelselect or something.
Yeah, is it's not the Sinatra.
I know what the Sinatra is,it's not this warm.

No, the bottled and bond on the on the Jack is
is very banana.
Um I'm not getting it.
So this may be a this may be uhuh this may be a barrel pick or
a barrel select, but uh um, I'mputting it in, I'm putting it
in a bottled and bond.
All right, so that takes meaway from Jack Daniels.

Matt Fox (15:44):
A $75 bottle, 75 plus 75 plus bottled and bonds.

And some of these some of these people are
lunatics with their burp.
They're like it's like the crapthat they brought to share.

Matt Fox (15:56):
I'm like, holy after what we after what we sampled on
our last episode, when we arecoming in a buck 27.4 and 131
point thousand or what have you.
Yeah, this has got this isreminiscent of what we had
tasted before.

Yeah, these are not blowing our heads off.
Speaking of blowing your headsoff, uh Jeremy um has a uh uh he
has a barrel pick of uh EagleRare.
And he said uh if we wanted toget in on it, we we could.
Spencer messaged me and said,Hey, if you guys want to get in
on his on his barrel, um let meknow.

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It's uh it's an Eagle Rare.
Okay, double nickels for that.

Matt Fox (16:37):
I wouldn't mind a Eagle, is it uh 10-year barrel
pick?

I'm sure probably over knowing him and
his you know sureselectivity-ness of selection.

Matt Fox (16:47):
I would get behind uh I would get behind that.


Matt Fox (16:51):
I forgot to share out what we were doing here.
It's okay.

Uh anyway, people find it.

Matt Fox (16:56):
So, do we know what we have tasted?
Did they post this yet?

Oh, yeah, no.
I was uh uh trying to find it.
I gotta go back to being me onFacebook.
I was switching over to the mancave to share stuff, and then
it's all good.

Matt Fox (17:10):
So I got I gotta ask you this question, yeah.
Um when we started thispodcast, yes, we were we would
talk about you know how folkswould get into bourbon and they
always wanted it to be hotter,hotter, hotter.
Yeah, are you moving into thatrealm of you want to have your
face blown off, or are you stillconsistent with I want to I

(17:34):
want to enjoy but not blow myhead off?

Um Michigan Breakfast Club.
It's so weird.
Um, no, no, I don't I don't uhI I like to try those.
I'm not gonna buy those to havearound the house.
Okay.
Um, it's fun to try.
It's like wow, that's that'sblowing my head off.
Yay, I'm I'm it's fun and it'sgreat.

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Uh, and occasionally when I'mout and about, yeah, um, you
know, I'll screw around with it,right?
Um, but I'm not gonna marry oneof those bottles.
One, they get they're moreexpensive, sure, and I'm cheap.
And then uh two, yeah, just uhbecause we have the Kill Mary
screw, yeah.
I'll screw around with it.

Matt Fox (18:17):
But if you're out and about, are you really gonna
spend the money on a stag junioror a stag bottle?

Oh, there's so many, right?

Matt Fox (18:23):
Yeah, it's just a there's so many other things
that you could really enjoy andnot have your you know the back
of your palate blown up.
I just curious because youknow, I we've changed this.
This the realm of the man cavehappy hour has really changed
over the past number of years,yeah, and we've had a lot of
fun.
We continue to explore andenjoy and meet some great

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people.
I was just curious where yourthought process was when it
comes to trying new things.

Yeah, I'll try them.
I like trying them, but youwouldn't I'm not gonna buy it
and put it on the shelf at home.

Matt Fox (18:55):
Okay, yeah.

Would I like to do that?
Yeah, but it doesn't make anysense because when I'm at home,
you know, I I might have onefireball back there and not
fireball, but one uhflamethrower back there, right?
Right.
Uh God, I don't I don't wantfireball.
I don't people drink that.
I don't know.
It's just you know, good.
I'm glad they do because whenthey drink a lot of that, then

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those stores get the otherBuffalo Trays products.
It's just so it makes me happy.
It's just cinnamon schnappsrebranded as fireball.
It's not gonna be me.
Um wow, this candle smells likefireball.

Matt Fox (19:32):
That's cinnamon, you alcoholic.

Yeah.
Um, but yeah, so uh who didthat?
Chad.
Chad good donated um thatbottle to the group okay in the
Michigan Breakfast Club.
Is that G-O-O-D-E good?
No, just good.
Just good, okay.
People are coming in.
Uh first a couple sweets sip.

(19:59):
Uh so uh sips are sweet, butthen it finishes drier.

Matt Fox (20:04):
Yeah.

Uh nose.
I thought it was weeded andbottled, possibly bottled and
bond, but it had it's gonna beat least 110 to 120.
Okay.
All right.
I stuck it all at a I stuckwith the uh the bottled, yeah.

Matt Fox (20:17):
I just on the warmth side, it felt it felt more than
uh a bottled and bond to me.
It felt a lot more than 90, ofcourse, but it just felt more
than bottled and bond.

Yeah, it's definitely more than an 80 or 90
for sure.

Matt Fox (20:29):
Yeah, that's why I really went above the uh that's
why I'm still saying a buck tento a buck fifteen.
That's where that's where Ifeel my my uh the heat or the
warmth is.
Yeah, it's not a bite, it's aguy, it's got a nice coating, if
you will.
Enjoy that tremendously.

Yeah.
I'm I'm I'm I'm responding inthe group here.
Oh, so I say I'm getting someorange.
Uh, I'm gonna say bottled inbond.
I'm sticking with uh proof.

Matt Fox (20:58):
You're responding live as we as we record.

I love it.
Any any this is great.
Watch me type.

Matt Fox (21:06):
Can you are you multitasking right now?

Uh-huh.

Matt Fox (21:09):
Okay, are you sure?

I am uh any chances of Jack Daniels
products.

Matt Fox (21:15):
Question mark, question mark, exclamation
point.
No, by the way.
Uh BTW.

All right, five comments so far.

Matt Fox (21:23):
All right.
Of this of whoever is in thegroup.

All right, yeah, terrible at guessing.
I liked it.
It's hot at AF.
Oh, wow.
Uh, but would take definitelytake another pour.
I I would take another pour.
Yeah, I'd take another pour ofthat.
That's uh, I'm curious.
It's 150.
You know, it's like, geez, thisperson.
Uh eight to ten-year-oldbourbon over 110.
Nice nose.

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Um, yeah, it's uh uh uh they'rethrowing out acronyms here, so
I'm trying to think of theacronym EH uh Colonel Taylor B P
with this EH T B P.

Matt Fox (22:02):
It's funny you say that because not too long ago
Colonel excuse me, ColonelTaylor had a a bottle that came
out and it was a barrel barrelpick.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Matt Fox (22:16):
And my son-in-law actually gave me a small taster
of the Colonel H.
Taylor uh barrel pick.
And it was it was hot.
It was about I think it wasthat came in at a buck
twenty-seven or a bucktwenty-one.
It was uh it was up there, itwas up there.
So you think this is way morethan a hundred?

(22:37):
I think it's yeah, I do.
Actually, I do.
I'm I've already finished it,but yeah, I could lick the
bottom of the on Karen, but no,I'm sticking around the one ten
at the most.

All right, all right, but I'm I'm sticking
around.
Hunted sticking around it,honey, hunt five, yeah.

Matt Fox (22:55):
So the curl H taylor, the my my son-in-law, he got me
a little taster and I had it,and I put it over a block of ice
around a sphere, right?
It was really tasty.
That barrel, that barrel proofthat they brought set out.
And I wish I didn't save morebecause it was so good.

(23:16):
I'm gonna have to revisit itbecause I still have a little
bit left.
So I wish I had, I wish I haddrank it all.
It was that good.
Yeah, but I still have a littlebit left.

Now that I had that last sip, yeah, it feels
hotter than I'm but I'm sosusceptible to suggestions.
The power of persuasion compelsyou.
Yes, it's like I'm so so.
Would it be wrong to do numbertwo?
Yeah, and all of a sudden it'sChristmas.
It's beginning to look a lotlong.

(23:45):
I told you.

Matt Fox (23:47):
I told you.
Christmas is two flipping daysaway.

Uh there's other shenanigans going on in the
too.
So that was the other thing.
It was a big hit last year.
Uh, I've been married toColleen for 16 years.
That's amazing.
How long have you guys beenmarried?
Forever.
Um, and so yeah, 12 kids.

Matt Fox (24:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Good lord.
Yeah, and she's uh she's one ofeight.
Um, so I'm only one of four.
Uh she's one of eight.
There's a lot of them.
And then they all had a wholebunch, you know.
So a little crazy.
So we we've had as many as 42people seated for dinner at one
time on Christmas.
Well, I mean, you know, three,four tables across three rooms,

(24:35):
but uh that's all that uh that'sall everybody had China,
everybody had China andSilverware.
Colleen's all about the China.
So it's like I got mygrandmother's China, she's got
her grandmother's China, she'sgot you know, Dennis had gave us
somebody's China.
We have like we have like a lotof China China, so uh so yeah,
so we had plenty of things, andthey're like, Oh, don't give it
to the kids.
It's like what are we gonna do?

(24:56):
Sure, it's give it to the kidsif they break it, they break it.
We have plenty, so you know,but it's it's like you know,
it's not like Chelios andsmashing them in Colleen was out
drinking with Chelios from theRed Wings, and he started
breaking.
He was a because he's Greek,that's kind of he like oh bah he
was like, Yeah, somerestaurant, whatever restaurant

(25:16):
he was in, and he like smashed aplate, and and they're like
Chris, you can you can't dothat.
He's I'll pay for them.
Smash and they're like, Yeah,but we gotta replace them, and
it's a pain in the butt.
And they're like, Can you stopbreaking the damn dishes?
Revelries, so but yeah, so it'slike hey, use it if some of the
happens, some of the happens,you know.
Um, but yeah, so we've had asmany as like 40, uh 42 people,

(25:40):
and and so we started hostingChristmas.
Um, her folks were getting alittle older um as she and I
met, and then we we got married,and we were in in my house in
St.
Close Shores, which was notlarge enough to entertain 40
people.

Matt Fox (25:56):
Well, the hot tub in the basement took up all the
room, yeah.

So yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh, but uh when we got thehouse in Troy, yeah, um, I think
that's when we took over.
So we've been in there for 14years.

Matt Fox (26:08):
We moved in there the second year we were married.
I gotta tell you, I I adoreyour home.

Oh, thank you.

Matt Fox (26:13):
I really do.
I go in there and it's just allthe old woodwork and the old
beams in the ceiling.
It's just because it's from1831.
It's just it's in the basement,it's like original beams in the
basement.

It's uh logs with bark on them in the
basement.
Yeah, as a cross beams.
It's a lot of nutty 1831.
Yeah, it's crazy house.
So uh we've been hosting since,and it's like always, yeah,
hey, you know, it's we'll havewine and we'll have mimosas or
whatever, and then you know, Igot you know, whiskies and and
spirits and things.
Uh, but two years ago, I uh itwas coming out of COVID, and we

(26:47):
were you know doing the man caveand I was doing a little more
cottage we're doing morecocktail-y things, yeah.
And uh, I think we did whateverreason we did it, we did like
some Star Wars cocktails, yeah.
And I was like, it was closingin on Christmas, and I was like,
you know what?
I'm gonna do, I'm gonna haveI'm gonna make a menu, right?
And so I I made a menu of likefour or five cocktails that uh

(27:10):
it's like hey, if you want acocktail, I'll make one of
these, right?
So, you know, people could maketheir own stuff if they wanted
to, but I'm like, hey, I'mmaking cocktails.
We want one of these.
And people almost everybody hadone of my cocktails.
It was fun.
So it was fun.
You played bartender for theday?
I did.
I was playing bartender.
Um, and I think our friendSarah from a flavor journal in
inspired me to uh to do that.

(27:31):
Um, I haven't brought her nameup in a little bit.
No, it's better.
We gotta have Sarah back on.
Uh, but so I was thinking aboutall right, so I got my cocktail
list from last year, but Iwanna I want to change it,
right?
Because what uh there were twoof them are like really
complicated.
There was like a lot ofingredients in them.
There's uh one the Death Star.
Yeah, uh, and you gotta use theround the round cube, which is
you know the Death Star in it,and then but it was like uh it

(27:54):
was like we had it, it was youcan go back to that episode last
year, and uh it was it wasnutty, it was uh just uh the
seven or eight liquors.
It's like and Jaegermeister isone of them, and I'm like, all
right, so the Death Star iscoming off the list because one,
I'm out of Jaeger, was it thelong and ice long island iced
tea of cocktails?
It's pretty much, yeah, it'spretty much, and so I'm like,

(28:16):
all right, well, screw it.
I'm gonna, but I'm I'm thinkingI'm like I'm gonna change it
up, right?
So uh you know, uh I I'llchange up, I'll do a different
four different cocktails thisyear, but I want to keep them
simple.
Um, so I'm gonna try this one.
It was uh I came across that itwas uh a grand old fashion.
Oh, so it's old fashioned butwith gram minier.
Oh so instead of the simplesyrup, interesting.

(28:38):
In instead of two ounces ofbourbon and a simple syrup, one
ounce of bourbon, one ounce ofgram minier, and the orange
bitters and bitters, yes.
Interesting.
So yeah, so that's why Ithought I'd hey, let's give this
uh let's give the the holidaycocktail uh a try.
Uh huh.
Um, what would you like whatwould you like to see um on a
holiday cocktail list if youwere going to a friend's house?

Matt Fox (29:02):
Well, I would definitely want to see an old
fashioned on the list, but iteveryone can anyone and
everybody can do it in oldfashioned, but to switch it
around to the Grand Marnier andyou're using makers.
Um it is fun, but what would Ilike to see?
I I you know it would have tobe something refreshing as well
because everything is so heavyon Christmas Day, all the food,

(29:24):
the you know, the ham and thestuffing if you guys if you
practice that most folks willjust set out you know appetizers
all day, they'll do the shrimpcocktail, they'll do veggies,
they'll do fruits, and just setout a table of munchies all day
long.
Yeah, but for a cocktail, youwant to have something
refreshing, you want to havesomething I guess you could say
flavorful, right?

(29:45):
And that would be I feel thisGrand Marnier with the with the
makers as an old fashioned wouldbe the flavor part of your
cocktail.
So, really, only two cocktailsthat you need to a spritzer and
an old fashioned.

Right, right.
Right, right.
But the spur.
So the old fashioned can easilybecome a Manhattan or an on the
rocks.

Matt Fox (30:06):
Or neat.
Whatever you want.

So uh it can morph pretty quickly.

Matt Fox (30:10):
Can you hand me that bottle of Grand Marnier?
I just want to get a nose onthat one.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
Just to refresh my memory.
Yeah.

I like doing, yeah, I like doing a Cosmo with
that.

Matt Fox (30:22):
That's got a very fruit that Grand Marnier is very
it's got a very fruit nose toit.
It's a cone cognac and orangeliqueur.

And I'm actually using a jigger this time
instead of free balling it anddestroying us like I did that
one time.

Matt Fox (30:40):
Did you I I have to get this in here, Jamie, because
you know, in honor of August,did did you finger bang the ice?
All right.
You're welcome, August.

There you go.

unknown (30:50):
All right.

So and it calls for three dashes of bitters.
Oh go five.

Matt Fox (30:55):
Yeah, that's five.

So yeah, I I like going bitter, I like going
bitter heavy.
I'm I'm a bitter heavy guy.
So it's uh I think it makes thecocktail.

Matt Fox (31:04):
Oh, did you did you swap it?
So yeah, you did switch themaround, didn't you?

Jesus, Mary and Joseph.
All right.
Um, it calls for an orange oruh uh a garnish, but I I love
me.

Matt Fox (31:19):
Is there enough in there?

Oh yeah, because I had two earlier.
I love me some cherries, right?

Matt Fox (31:27):
Luxardos.
Come on, come on.
The Luxardos.
I love the Luxardos cherries.
They are they're the originalOG.
I don't know, is there any morein there?
There are all right, I feelthem.

Can you feel so I'm really excited for cherry to
I'm really excited for you forwhy?
For why?

Matt Fox (31:47):
Well, it is December of 2025.

Oh my god, is it ever?

Matt Fox (31:51):
And I am I'm counting down with you, yeah, because May
will be here, beginning of Junewill be here soon.

Not just not just for the Justin Timberlake
memes.

Matt Fox (32:02):
No, no, no, it's for for you, and I'm excited because
you I okay, so you and I haveknown each other.
You and I have known each othersince I was 19.
And I am now 51 years old.
Yes, so you have been in mylife more than half of it.
So to see you grow and moveinto this next uh phase, if you

(32:26):
will, of your career or yourlife.
I I'm just happy being a partof it.
I'm happy to be here andwitness the exponential growth
of James Flanagan.

We are witnesses.

Matt Fox (32:37):
I've only had one drink, I'll be honest with you.

Okay.

Matt Fox (32:40):
Oh this is all this is all from my uh stirred.

You did stir it stir 20 times.
20.
It's a little this OCD in me.
Um, so there you go.
So uh we got the cherry garnishin there instead of the orange,
but it is what it is.
I think with the graminierbeing super orange liqueur to
begin with, right?
Cognac and orange liqueur,right?
Um I think uh orange orange isjust overdoing it.

(33:05):
That's just silly, it's justredundant.
All right, so cheers.
Cheers.

Matt Fox (33:11):
Hey, hey, yeah, there it is.

And and the these are like very cool
glasses, Matthew justcontributed.

Matt Fox (33:20):
Okay, so that's a tasty beverage.

All right, so that was one to one.
Ramonier and uh bourbon.

Matt Fox (33:30):
I'd go a little more bourbon.

I'm gonna go one and a half to half.
Yeah.
Um, let the bourbon, because Iwe're a little bit more bourbon
forward, but I think my I thinkuh it gets makers wrong.
It gets a little sweeter.

Matt Fox (33:42):
Um I they I can I can feel the bitters in it.
Yes, you put an extra coupledashes in there, but I'm gonna
add a little bit more of the uhmakers here.
Yeah.
Just give that a stir.
Three, four, five, six.

It's half the four, so yeah, so half the stir.
I'm I'm gonna put that guy onthe I'll put this guy on the uh
that took you thirty minutes.
That took you thirty seconds.
It was it's it's twoingredients, right?
So it's it's it's the makers ofgrand manier.
Well, three with the thebitters, but does that really
count?
No.
The bitters aren't really uhit's another third, you know,

(34:18):
and I count an ingredient, it'slike a whole, you know, another
bottle.
It's a garnish.
A whole nother bottle.
Yeah, it's yeah, it's like no.

Matt Fox (34:25):
This is a this is a tasty beverage.
How much of that grand marnieruh runier?
Do you remember?

Um no, I'm not sure what they go.
This is the pint.
It's not uh not even the fifth.
I forget what it was.

Matt Fox (34:40):
That's pretty good.
Yeah, I can see where theywould want to throw an orange,
you know, yeah.
Orange into that.

So, but this is it's it's fresh.
Um, it's lighter than uh Iwould say uh the traditional old
fashioned, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And depending on how sweet youmake your old fashioned, it may
not be as sweet.
Sure.

Matt Fox (35:02):
That's actually pretty good.

Yeah, I thought it was that's gonna that's gonna
go on the that's gonna go onthe menu.
I will be there.
You can you're most welcome.

Matt Fox (35:10):
46 people now.

All right, you're all yeah, we want to the
numbers have dwindled.
Uh a bunch of my family movedto Florida on me, so that that
cut the numbers down.

Matt Fox (35:21):
What are you the baby of the family?
Is that why?

So everyone everybody vacated, everybody
bolts bolted out on me.
They're like, all right, laterdays.

Matt Fox (35:30):
I'm like, all right, fine, people.
Watch this.
It's been my best impression ofa snowbird.
Here you go.

And they're not even snowbirding, they just
straight up moved on me.
I don't even know where I don'teven know where to send the
Christmas cards anymore.

Matt Fox (35:46):
So I know you probably talk about the man cave often
with friends when you're out andabout.
Sure.
I I do share the man cave witha lot of folks and in my
ventures out in public.
And one of the things I doshare that I'm really proud of
is the fact that folks acrossthe globe have tuned in to the
man cave happy hour becauseagain, people listen whenever,

(36:09):
however, wherever, wherever.
We've we've had folks from overfrom across the pond.
Oh, yeah.
Uh in Israel.
We've had folks uh chime inwhen uh we interviewed the folks
from Milk and Honey, yes in TelAviv.
Um, England, you know, the uhwonderful folks over at uh High
Clerk Castle and what have you.

(36:30):
And you know, they they'vetuned in, they've listened, and
they've and they've enjoyed.
I hope they would enjoy.
And please, no, share with yourfriends, you know.
Honestly, that's just one ofthe best things that you can do
is really just share what yourpassion is and start your own
podcast.
Yeah, and then look to podcastyour voice to do so.
You don't have to be in studioto do a podcast.

No, no, no.
I help a couple peopleremotely, yeah.
Um, to either help them producetheir shows remotely.
Yeah, uh, they send me moneyand I tell I tell them what to
do.
No, but yeah, no, I'm I'm veryI'm very happy to help people.
I'm very I'm very happy to helppeople.
Um, and and because some peoplejust need it's like it's like a
gym membership.
Um pay as you go, yeah.

(37:15):
Well, it's uh uh it motiveyou're like, oh, I paid for
this, I gotta do it, right?
So um if you I guess how manypeople you see on Facebook and
eBay, it's it's uh oh, I wasgonna start a podcast, but I'm
not gonna do it here.
I'm selling the crap, right?
So it's like it's but when yourent the studio time, it kind of
forces you into a habit into aa cycle and put it on your put

(37:36):
on your you put it in the bookand you put it and you make it
happen.
It's a commitment, yeah.
Yeah, that's it.
So it's a commitment.
Uh so yeah, so it's uh I'm hereto help you be committed,
honestly.
And but you want the easybutton for it, too.
Yes, it is there's a lot ofwhistles and bells.

Matt Fox (37:52):
There there are a lot of extras that you can get
yourself into, and you know,sitting down and talking about
your passion is one part of it,sure.
But what do you want to get outof it when it becomes to a
podcast?
What do you want out of it?
And it's either it's justmillions of dollars, but is is
it just is is it just gettingthings off your chest?
Is it a decompression for you?

(38:14):
A podcast could be so manythings.
If if you want it to be a asource of wealth, it takes a lot
more work, right?
But if you just need to come inand decompress and let shit off
your chest, you know, then byall means start a podcast
because it can only help youout.

Goals and objectives.
Uh, Rick Bloom was a money guyback in the day on 1270, and
that was all the things.
What are you you you if you'replanning for your money, you're
doing what are your goals andobjectives, right?
So people like you know, ourparents were like always you
gotta buy a house, buy a house,gotta buy a house, gotta buy a
cash escape, buy a house, buy ahouse, buy a house, cash escape.
Um, that's not true today, no,right?

(38:53):
It's all about your goals andobjectives.
Renting, uh leasing might be abetter option for you.
Um depends on your lifestyle.
It's it's your lifestyle andyour goals and your objectives.
So uh that's the use of themoney of the smart money
personal listen to you.
Yeah um, do I want to own ahome?
So, what are your goals andobjectives with with a podcast,

(39:14):
right?
Um, so yeah, that's what yougot to think about.
That what are your goals andobjectives for that?
And me, my goal and objectiveis is to hang out with Matt Fox
and have a couple cocktails.

Matt Fox (39:24):
You know, that's a good goal to I have succeeded.
Gangbusters, cheers.
No, I I thoroughly enjoy uhfolks that you know do share and
do like you know our our ourposts and our shows and what
have you share away, you know.
Honestly, they're don't holdback.
Yeah, you know, if people it'sfree, yeah.

Why not roll it on out there?

Matt Fox (39:45):
You don't pay for your podcast?

Like the barrels, roll it on out.
They're free wherever finepodcasts are sold.
Speaking of which, so actually,not all of them are.
You can actually we canmonetize we can we can put like
a paywall.
I'm like, it's like no, no,right.

Matt Fox (40:01):
I think we're I think we're both in agreement on that.
I know I know you you said rollout the barrel.
Yeah, did you see August whenhe was in Krakow?
He went to a karaoke night.
Oh my god, and I really wantedhim to do roll out the barrel
and karaoke, karaoke in themiddle of Poland, all over the
world.

It's uh who stole the Kieska?
Who stole the Kieska?
Come on, everybody! Jame Bouge.
Oh my god.
All right, uh, Zherkowski is uhmy name.
So that's uh uh my my pen name.
So Thaddeus Zherkovsky.
Is it yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, Thaddeus is my middlename, and uh Tad Day Wosh named

(40:41):
after my grandfather TadDaywood.
See, I never knew that.
Yep, yep.
So yeah, I was like kids cool.
Kids, oh, what's your middlename, Ms.
Flanagan?
I'm like, it's like it's likeRumpel Stilskin, man.
You ain't never gonna get it.
You ain't so you're never gonnaget it.

Matt Fox (40:54):
Your middle name is after your grandfather, yeah, as
is mine.
Oh, right on.
Yeah, Warren.
Not kidding.
That's great.
Yeah, but I don't know if Iknew that.
No, I don't think you did.
My uh my my mother's biologicalfather, my granddad, not my
grandfather, my granddad, hisfirst name was Warren, and he
was a merchant marine, yeah,spent some time on the subs and

(41:16):
what have you out in SanFrancisco, yeah.

So but in school, and like if I'm doing
something, yeah, I use the penname Thaddeus Trikowski because
it's like on this on the schoolpaper or something.
If I did something, if I didsomething, I don't want to like
just put oh this flash staff,and it's like because the kids
didn't do it, I did it.
So it's but I don't want to, Iwas like Flanagan, Flanagan.
It's like, oh, what's he youknow?
So I I put I make ThaddeusSherkowski when I when I'm

(41:40):
responsible.

Matt Fox (41:40):
That's your Richard Bachman, is what you're telling
me.

Yeah, pretty much.
So that's my Bachman Turneroverdrive.

Matt Fox (41:48):
People are like, did he just call him a dick?
No, Richard Bachman, pen nameof Stephen King.
Oh, okay.
He wrote Richard Bachman wroteuh The Running Man remake that
was just done.
Uh that 1980s movie Who LovesYou and Who Who Do You Love?
Yeah, yeah.
And so he also Richard Bachmanalso wrote yes, The Long Walk.

(42:12):
Okay, the movie that justreleased.
That's that's a Richard Bachmanstory.
It was also Rage was anotherone of his stories.
Um, yeah, there were someamazing short stories by Richard
Bachman that uh Stephen Kingpenned as Richard Bachman.

Oh look at look at you educating the English
major.

Matt Fox (42:30):
Yeah, yeah, there you go.
First time ever.
Only took 39 years.

I've been bluffing for 26 years, man.
How did they how did I 20?

Matt Fox (42:44):
How long is it?
Is it 29 years?

Yeah, no, no, it's well, because the Michigan
retirement system you could buyinto the pension.

Matt Fox (42:51):
No, no, you do you've you've mentioned that.
So I'm just I'm 51 now.
I met when I was 19.
How long has it been?
29 years?
Oh uh it's been 29.

No, I mean I've been bluffing.

Matt Fox (43:00):
Oh, you've been bluffing longer than that.
Yeah, all right.
Well, now now I just learnedsomething new.
Yeah, I thought you knew whatyou were doing the whole damn
time.

No, I'm just all just a big my head is exploding
right now.
Big big, big long bluff.
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There is a man cave happy hour shirt in there.

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A jersey too.
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(44:09):
You don't have to listen 24hours a day, no, but we're there
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Matt Fox (44:14):
When you can just turn on a radio station, my iris
radio.com, and you hearsomething you've never heard
before, but you think you have,that's good radio.

Yeah, I got it set up right now.
It uh you'll go six dayswithout hearing the same song.

Matt Fox (44:30):
That's amazing because there's a there's a lot of
history in the Celtic Irishmusic realm.

And I I haven't even I haven't even scratched
the surface.
No, you have not.
Uh I've I've gone the depth ofmy library, but uh I have not I
have not scratched the surface.
So I'm building, I'm buildingthe the library.

Matt Fox (44:47):
One thing I do like about my Irishradio.com is that
you can send in a request, it'skind of fun, and it's and if you
don't have it, you'll get it,right?
Or they'll send it to you.
And it's like, hey, if you wantto hear this, you know, send it
to me.

And and I've I've had a bunch of uh Irish
musicians, uh people from thestates here who do Irish music,
and people from the island.
I've had a few people from theisland send me things.
Uh I've had a couple peoplesend me straight up complete
100% AIs.

Matt Fox (45:13):
You've shared that with me, and I'm still on the
fence as to whether it should beplayed.

And I'm a little angry because I like it.

Matt Fox (45:20):
Yeah, I'm on the fence.
Um I like what you shared withme.

I didn't I did like, but as I as I as I
listened more critically to it,I'm like, okay, it's it's it's
thin and a little cliche.
The lyrics, yeah, yeah.
Some of the in and yeah.
Um, so I don't know.
I don't, I don't know.
I just they're not in regularrotation.
Um, I'm not playing them rightnow.
Because if I if you were Bono,let's say you were Bono, and I I

(45:45):
was sitting here with Bono, andhe's like, Oh, you're playing
my music on my Irish radio.
That's great.

Matt Fox (45:49):
I want I really want to be the edge, but okay, you
can be the edge.

All right, don't get your time, don't think,
don't worry, everything's justfine.
You get your little cap on.
All right.
Uh I think he'd be pissed if Iwas playing that.

Matt Fox (46:02):
Oh, I think so too.
All right.
Any any musician would bepissed.

While I'm asking musicians to send me their
stuff, uh, because I want tohighlight them and celebrate
them.

Matt Fox (46:13):
Right.

Um, I think they would be annoyed or angered uh
if I was playing full blown AIgenerated.
Yeah, full blown AI.
I still say stay awake becauseradio is supposed to be it's
yeah, it's but pop radio withall that you know auto-tune and
all that.
I mean, it's like those, butare those artists, are they
singers?
Are they is it just they'rejust they're just they're

(46:36):
technology wizards, man.
Yeah, it's garbage.
Um so I I'm I'm gonna I'mstaring clear of that for now.
Uh when something comes to myattention that it's AI
generated, I really because thefirst time I listened to you,
right, right, right.

Matt Fox (46:48):
But go on, yeah.
Akon.
So yeah.

Uh there was a it was like a it was a clickbait
news story.
Uh the number one country songcompletely AI generated.
That's bull.
No, it was well, kinda.
Uh it was the number one paidfor download on Spotify, like
two weeks ago or something.
It was the it was the numberone song paid for, but uh
nobody's buying music onSpotify, right?

Matt Fox (47:14):
No, because they're just listening to it, right?

Right, right.
So, but it was the the mostpaid for song.
That's wild.
And and so it wasn't the numberone listened to song, and it
wasn't the it was just it didn'tappear anywhere on the
billboard charts, but uh whoevergot a hold of that information
and turned it into a clickbaitarticle, um, which got me.
Yeah, did you come?
And I was like, I was like, ohmy god, AI generated number one

(47:40):
song, pitchforks, torches, yeah.
Let's storm the castle, right?
And I was like, what the hell'sgoing on?
And then uh I because I hadshared the story with somebody
else, and then after I hadshared the story to somebody
else, I realized how stupid itsounded.
Um, and so I did research.
Okay.
After I spread the viralclickbait message, I went and I

(48:01):
I checked.
Oh, and I did a littleresearch.
You're one of those after thefact, yeah, researching after
the fact.
Yeah, I researched hindsight2020 of question mark
eventually.
Um, but no, because I wastalking about it was because I
was in my craw for a little bit,right?
And I was like, wow, this isamazing.

(48:22):
I was like, because we weretalking about education, I teach
high school, so we talk aboutAI a lot, right?
And so it came up in theconversation.
It's like, yeah, there was likea country song that was doing
really, really well, like in anumber one spot that supposedly
was all AI.
And they're like, No, I goGoogle number one country song
AI, and they Googled it poppedright up, but that's all the

(48:42):
part of the clickbait uh umarticles.

Matt Fox (48:45):
And the website it went to was Jelly J E L L I E.
No, no, it was just no, I justthink it was just YouTube.
Was it Jelly Roll?
Jell E J E L L I E R O L EJelly Roll.com.

Yeah, I don't know.
But uh, you know, it wasn't ahorrible country song, but yeah,
so it was the most popular paidfor country single on Spotify,
but it didn't appear, it didn't,it didn't chart, it didn't
resonate uh on any actual chart.
It did not chart, not even onthe digital music charts.
Good.
Um, even though it was digital,yeah.

(49:18):
But it was like I because I sawit on like on on you know the
local, you know, 247 here inMetro Detroit, those are the
three big stations, 2420, 62,56, whatever.
But uh 247, it was on like2407.
Really?
Uh a little story about it.
I'm like, oh my god, that'sit's on the news, it must be
true.
Uh and then I'm like, you F andMorons are reporting it like

(49:42):
it's fact.
They like so whoever TV peopleare so stupid, they didn't
research it.
They just oh, rip and read.
It was a rip and read.
All right, so just rip andread.
They ripped clickbait and theyfreaking read it as news on
local news.

Matt Fox (49:56):
It's not just it's not Jay's fault, it's not Erica's
fault, it's not Amy's fault.
They are just reading what ison the prompter.
Is that what you're talkingabout?

It was uh, yeah, it'll it's like it's are there
are they are they are they theanchor man?
They'll just he'll readanything on the prompter.
You put anything up there,he'll read it.
Um yeah, yeah.
So it's uh that's what that maybe a little nutty, but so yeah,
with uh my Irish radio, um MyIrish Radio.
Yeah, that's where we startedthis.
Uh our sponsor there, so thankyou to them.

(50:27):
Uh if you need a little Irishuh Celtic jams in your in your
in your ear earballs, go go grabit.

Matt Fox (50:35):
Are you gonna put out a Christmas list of Irish music?

I'll do a little Christmas.
Yeah, I've been gettingChristmas music from artists.
So nice.
Real artists too, not the AIartist.
They are AI people, send me abunch of Christmas work.
So did you get Wamageddon yet?
I did not get Wamagedd.

Matt Fox (50:48):
I know it's the first city summer only.
There's a few folks that havealready gotten a big one.

I did not get Whamagedon.

Matt Fox (50:53):
Just don't listen to a certain radio station in the
Nutter Detour area, and you'llbe all right.

I don't listen to that trying to get a job from
them, but I don't uh listen toit.
Uh no, I interviewed, Iinterviewed at Wheels.
Uh did you?
Yeah, back when I first leftDVD, Podell was like, You gotta
come in here.
So I went talk to the hisprogram director.
And but they wanted more.
They went and I would have beenworking on that other station
and wow and like the urbanstation.

(51:21):
And I'm like, uh no, I justwant a little part-time, you
know, I'm not looking for likeoh well.
We need somebody.
I'm like, all right.
Well, you're gonna retire herefrom teaching here pretty soon.
So I'll have more time.
I could go do that.

unknown (51:31):
I don't know.

You you're an asset, no matter you're an asset
no matter what.
Yeah, I got you're just an ass,actually.
I got uh pretty much, I got funstuff happening here.

Matt Fox (51:40):
So, Jamie, what's uh what's next for the Man Cave
Happy Hour?
What do we have coming up?
Um anything special in themonth of December, like two
weeks from now.

Yeah, we're talking to the folks from Double
Neat.
Yeah, uh, there's a a box we uhdid a little opening uh a
couple episodes ago.

Matt Fox (51:57):
I'm still thinking about that jerky uh FYI.

Hey jerky, yeah.
Uh so yeah, we're gonna do uhthe box from uh double neat, and
uh there was something else onthe horizon, and I forget.

Matt Fox (52:08):
That's okay.
You'll figure you'll figure itout.

There's probably it's probably on stream yard,
it's probably set up as a streamalready.

Matt Fox (52:14):
Um got a couple interviews for and is Animal
Talk or uh anything happening inthat?

I just rolled a new episode of Animal Talk out
as well, yeah.
Uh with an animal communicator.
She actually I was uh kind of Iwas kind of uh she was she's
like a fitness model too.

Matt Fox (52:31):
Yeah, I saw the picture.

They're like, Why did you why did you
interview that girl?
I go, just see her picture.

Matt Fox (52:40):
Well, when you shared it with me, and I said, Yeah, I
was like, Okay, how come therewas no invite?
Yeah, I like to get to knowfolks, you know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Matt Fox (52:48):
You know, if she could speak to animals, but I was a
little uh I was a little uh Iwant to know.

Uh I was a little uh uh skeptical, and
right, and uh maybe lessskeptical.

Matt Fox (52:59):
Uh so you you see you think she's the real thing.

Nah, I don't know.
I don't know.

Matt Fox (53:05):
So he's still on the fence, or what?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, I don't know.
I'm gonna show you a picture ofmy cat and you tell me what
he's thinking.

Matt Fox (53:11):
Oh, I could definitely tell you what your cat is
thinking.

Give me food and leave me alone.

Matt Fox (53:18):
My cat's thinking the same goddamn thing.

Give me food, give me food, leave me alone.

Matt Fox (53:23):
Scratch my tailbone and then I'll bite you, and then
I'm out.

See ya.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
Same thing.
Um, Jamie, yo, Matt, the OG ofMan Cape Happy Hour, August.

Matt Fox (53:37):
We we have missed you, yeah.
And we wish you safe travels onyour way back from Krakow Is he
wait.
Isn't he supposed to go toAuschwitz to end the show on a
positive note?

His group is taking a tour.
I think he was opting out.

Matt Fox (53:55):
I think he's baby, I think he's uh watching the
kiddos while they're doingthough.

That's uh that'd be oh, gotta watch the kids.

Matt Fox (54:01):
Uncle Augie at work, but yeah, safe travels, August,
on your way back.

Yes, and uh everybody uh like, subscribe, uh
leave a comment, do all thosepodcast things in all the
podcast places.

Matt Fox (54:12):
That is Jamie Flander.
Ah, Matt Fox on the other sidethere.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate your time tonightand the and the cocktail.
This is uh this is a reallynice cocktail.

So thank you.
Ah, we'll see you next time.
See ya, cheers.

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