🚨 America Descends Into CHAOS—Are You Prepared?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a
world gone mad. I'm your host,Seth Holehouse. So when Trump
got in, I think a lot of peoplein this nation thought, hey.
Great. We're finally on track.
We're gonna get rid of the IRS.Maybe we're gonna end the Fed.
We're gonna get rid of mRNA andand the medicines, and we

(00:34):
haven't really seen that stuffhappening. There has been some
progress. I'm not being a a, youknow, Debbie Downer, but there's
been some pretty core thingsthat make me think that, we're
not really as safe as a countryas I would hope, especially if
you can start getting into theAI and the AI infrastructure and
Palantir, and that's a wholeother can of worms that are not

(00:56):
gonna be part of this showtoday.
But one of the things is that Ihave always been in my a lot of
my adult life, you know, try tobe more prepared minded. Even,
you know, say, eight years ago,when I was living in a high rise
apartment in New York City,which is not a good place to be
prepared. I even then, I stillhad a go bag, and I had freeze
dried meals and all that kind ofstuff. It's you know, now, you

(01:17):
know, my wife and we live out inthe country. We've got about
seven acres.
We've got gardens and goats andchickens and lots of food stored
and all that kind of good stuff.And I think one of the things
I'm seeing that concerns me is Ithink a lot of Americans have
kind of put their feet up alittle bit and thought, hey,
everything's gonna be okay. Butif you look at the recent kinda
heightened discussions of WorldWar three, the threats of AI,

(01:40):
the threats of China, I mean,even just I think it was a
couple the last couple of days,the FBI arrested some Chinese
nationals that had brought in,like, some sort of, plant based
pathogen that could havedisrupted farming. So the the
bigger picture is that I don'tthink that we're at a place
where we can just relax, that wehave to be very, mind you know,
mindful about preparedness andself sufficiency. And, I'm still

(02:01):
working on my book, and I'vebeen talking about it for little
while now, Prep Like Noah.
The book is still being, it'sstill underway. It's actually it
started off as a little ebook,and now it's becoming a much,
much bigger project, which we'reexcited about, but that is gonna
be coming out this year. So I'llkeep you updated on that. But
joining me today are twofantastic guys. They're Jordan
and Nace Roberts, and they'rejust good old boys from this

(02:22):
rural Oklahoma.
And we're gonna be getting intotheir story of going from, you
know, running a, you know,successful manufacturing
business to the pandemic hittingand how they got into kind of
orienting around preparedness,in a very serious way. And so we
diving into all that and more intoday's show, so please enjoy.

(02:42):
Alright, mister Jordan and NaceRoberts. Thank you very much for
joining us today. You guys arelike I see you too, and all I
think is good old American boys.
So it's good to have you on.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Thank you for having us.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
So I I wanna start with a little bit of the
background of your story. Like,okay. You know, coming from
manufacturing, your yourlifestyle. So you guys are out
in kinda rural Oklahoma livingon fourth generation family
land. In in many ways, I look atyou guys as, like, the the real
American dream.
Like, the American dream is notto me, like, the, like, superb

(03:17):
suburbia with the white youknow, picket fence. It's
multigenerational land as yourcore asset of your family being
passed down, living off theland, farming, working with your
hands, manufacturing. So, walkus through a little bit of your
background because it's gonnareally help inform our story
because as we're entering into atime where I'm feeling very
unsettled about where things areat right now in this country and

(03:39):
around the world in terms of,like, where's our future going,
taking a look at what I, again,believe is is the the the true
core of what America is and yourguys' lifestyle is really
important for us in terms ofhelping people get back to that.
So I'll just hand it over to youguys just to tell a little bit
of your story.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
You wanna start? Yeah. If you want to.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
So where we started was we had a a father and a
mother. And then, I mean,because it's No. No. Really?

Speaker 1 (04:05):
I did too.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah. So, I mean, it's kinda confusing nowadays.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Well, that's yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
So, I mean, for really true Americans, I mean,
that's where we, you know, we'vebeen on the same land for four
generations.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
But it was all mothers and fathers.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah. Yeah. Mean, but when when but when you go from
there, yeah. So, what you'resaying is that we we didn't have
two dads, I think is what he wassaying. And.
We're too all too moms. And butreally our grandpa was actually
a farmer. So, that's what hedid. So, we so we got to help
him work the land. He had cattleout here.
He was growing tomatoes and justeverything that you can think

(04:38):
of. So we're out here pickingthem and pruning them with our
grandpa. You know he was a sixfoot four tall guy getting down
there and getting in the dirt.And man, just one of the best
men that we've ever known. Andmy dad, he was actually, he was
in manufacturing.
So he started working for forpeople and he ended up rising up

(05:02):
to the ranks. He didn't have acollege education and he ended
up splitting off and startinghis own manufacturing company
which was out of the back of hisgarage. And I think

Speaker 3 (05:13):
It it was a dirt floor.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
It was a dirt floor. There was I think it was his
first house is $11,000. Youknow? So way so way back in the
day, he built a barn in theback, and he started this little
manual machine shop and he juststarted drumming up work and
that grew into what we are todaywhere we do CNCs. He brought us
both in.
There's actually a time wherehis his tax guy just really

(05:38):
boogered things up and a diaristcame in hard and heavy, started
making threads saying they'regoing to take everything and and
so he actually brought me andNace in to come in and help and
just really, I ended up becominglike the head mill guy. He ended
up becoming the head lathe guy.So we kind of grew up underneath
him learning how to manufacture.And then we took it a step

(06:01):
further where we startedlearning how to program. So now
we do all of our own programmingin house and and it anyways, I
think jump forward, dad was likealways a sensitive guy, and he
always knew that, I guess, Iguess more like sensitive to the
holy spirit.
And he always knew thatsomething was coming. Hey. We
needed to prepare. Right? And weneeded to start doing something.

(06:21):
Unfortunately, he got sick withstage four stomach cancer. What
was it? Thirteen years ago now.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
About twelve years. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Twelve twelve twelve years ago now. And so that was a
very quick process where we hadto go from being the guys in the
shop to being the guys in theoffice, being the face of the
company, and learning all thethings that that dad was taking
care of, right? And he was he healways had he he had this famous
quote was we can always do itsomeday. Right? And so there's a

(06:49):
there's a Monday, Tuesday,Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
Saturday, but there'sunfortunately not a someday.
So sometimes, like, when we havethat motto, things don't get
done because we're thinking,hey, we always have tomorrow. We
we can always get things done.And so the things that he wanted
to get done didn't get done, buthe left us with the resources
that allowed us to start doingthose things. So when we go to

(07:09):
the global pandemic, two weeksto slow the curve, and we're in
Costco or wherever no one canfind toilet paper, people are
fighting people for toiletpaper. We're like, Houston, we
have a problem.
This this is not looking good.And so we started doing the
thing. We started buying deepfreezers. We started buying

(07:29):
anything we could put in them.It was just a mad dash to grab
calories and whatever.
Right? And Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
I remember at that time going to Costco early on,
and you get their, their groundbeef. It came in like sheets.
Like, you get, like, a, like, apack of, like, eight one pound
things all connected. And I'mgoing there just filling my cart
with ground beef thinking, okay.If I can I can freeze this, I
went and got I had, like, threedifferent deep freezers, and I'm
thinking, okay?
I'm just gonna freezeeverything, and this is gonna be

(07:57):
the solution, which I mean isI'm actually still eating some
of that beef. Right. So butyeah. So, basically so then you
you were machinists, and and youyou ran a manufacturing company.
Your dad, you know, he passes.
You step in, take much more ofthe management role of the
company instead of the kind ofthe the skilled labor role of

(08:18):
the company. Right? And then,you know, pandemic hit, shook
everyone's world upside down,and that's when something
clicked in you. So you wentthrough this process of kind of,
like, the the mad rush that Ithink the people that saw it,
like, early on in summer, like,in the very early on of of the
pandemic, there were people thatlike, Costco wasn't that crazy.
Everyone was going for toiletpaper.

(08:38):
Like, I you could still go andget a lot of food, and that's
what we were doing too. And youcould still go get there'd be
pallets of rice and everything,and people are still, you know,
out there. They're kindafighting over Froot Loops. And
it's like, well, that's notgonna help you very So so what
what was that transition likewhen, pandemic hit? You guys are
problem solvers.
Like, I know a lot ofmachinists. You know, I I've I'm
not a machinist myself. Like, II love building things. I love

(09:01):
building a chicken coop orwhatever it is I need to do.
It's all about problem solving.
Right? It's like, okay. Well, Idon't a a 16 foot board for
that, but how can I still makedo with these two eight foot
boards and the right kind ofbrace? Right? So Right.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
How did

Speaker 1 (09:14):
that how did that problem solving then shift into
what you saw happening with theworld and how can you protect
your families?

Speaker 2 (09:22):
So we kinda went after it at a couple different
directions. It's how do wecreate some type of self sustain
where we can sustain ourselveson our own property. So we
looked at greenhouses and allkinds of stuff like that. So we
started manufacturinggreenhouses. We actually still
can today.
It's American made greenhousesof what it is, but we, you know,

(09:45):
we've done some for pastor DaveScarlett. We've done stuff for
Clay Clark. So we've done a lotof these greenhouses where
people are like, hey, it's gonnatake like two years to get me a
greenhouse. Can you guys designsomething to manufacture for us
and put it up? And we're like,yeah, we can do that, you know.
The shop was slow at the timebecause every everything going
on, we had companies that we hadconsignment at to where we had

(10:06):
hundreds of thousands ofdollars, if not millions of
dollars of consignment and theylocked us out of the building.
Yeah. But they continued to useour product and then continued
not to pay us. So we're like,man, this is not looking good,
guys. So we went, didgreenhouses, we did the whole
deep freezer stuff, and then thefirst power outage, we're like,
oh gosh.
Yeah. Okay. We have anotherproblem now. We don't have

(10:29):
enough generators nor enough onhand or gas to sustain this. So,
we're like, we have to look atthis from a different angle and
that's where we started lookingat freeze drying.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah. Mean, at that time, you start seeing blackouts
on the West Coast. You saw someon the East Coast. You saw the
ice storm in Texas. Right.
And then we're like, oh, thatwon't happen to me and all of a
sudden, we had a bad storm hereand we're out probably ten or so
days and and if you have a deepfreezer, I mean, sometimes that
only lasts what was it? Likeforty eight hours. Forty eight

Speaker 2 (10:59):
hours. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
If you have a free or you know, regular fridge, twenty
four hours. Yeah. Depends whatyou have in there and so, we
bought all these generators, allthe gas. I mean, it was a mad
rush. And it's kind of one ofthe things as we learn, dad
always said, basically, get herdone or gumption.
So, we grew up kind of like, youknow, the Bible always says when

(11:20):
we're preaching it to ourselvesand our kids is the way you
train up your child is the waythey won't forget it. They're
going to do it. You're plantingseeds somehow in their life. So,
he was really, dad was anentrepreneur in a way. Had a
trash business, had a valvebusiness, traded land for all
this different stuff.
He was adopted. So, he nevergrew up about, you know, around

(11:41):
really good influencers, nosocial media back then to learn
this stuff. He just had thatbecause he came from nothing.
So, he taught us, it's okay tolose stuff like, you know, when
we go to heaven, you're nottaking anything but what we what
we can do is actually elevateourselves here because when we
elevate and we have the money orwe have the the finances or the

(12:02):
land, we can actually blessother people. So, kind of like,
I would say now, we didn't knowwhat we didn't know but we also
have that seed planted in ourlife and so, once we saw that
power go out here, you know, ourneighbors are like, we're we're
storm, you know, storingeverything in our sellers like,
what did they do in the olddays?
Okay. The sellers, the books aregone. Nobody can find what book,

(12:24):
you know, like, how do you prepthose ways? Using salt or
dehydrating your meat with a,you know, fire. And we we
started teaching ourselvesactually the things that's
always been done.
You know, back in old days, theydidn't have the ACs and we're
we're so spoiled. We forget,it's so luxury. It's so
convenient but we forgot abouthow to actually do it the the

(12:44):
way grandpa did

Speaker 2 (12:45):
it. Right. And I and I I think that I think that's
part of the the the trick isthat we're we're trained and
taught, you know, that AmazonPrime two day deliveries like
the thing. Like, we we like welive in this convenient culture
and we can no longer take careof ourselves. It's something
that we quickly found out.
It's like, man, there there wasa book that became extremely

(13:07):
popular. It's called Light TheLost Ways. It's like things that
people have done for hundreds ofyears to take care of themselves
and to make sure that theirfamilies were surviving, right?
And so but we came across thistech technology called freeze
drying and so we bought, youknow, free freeze dryers for us
and we ended up meeting the thethis rancher that raised the

(13:30):
beef the way that we wanted it.Yep.
Exactly. And and so but it wasall organic grass fed, grass
finished, no no vaccines, andthis was all for us because this
is what we wanted to put in ourbody. And so we ended up getting
hooked up with him, and heprovided all the beef we needed.

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Word kinda got around what wewere doing, and friends and
family and business, friendscame came around and they're
like, so how do I get you guysto do this for me and my family?
And so me and Nace were kind ofthinking it's like, well, I
guess we could do that.
Maybe, you know, we're justthinking about ourselves but
maybe there's a bigger purposehere. Maybe we need to be

(14:13):
looking at how we can be helpingother people. And so that's how
Grid Down Chow Down was born.And and so we've we've been
doing that for, I don't know,how long now.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah. Going on two years. I mean, the way it worked
and the way god works, itliterally just took off on, you
know, one one day, just boom. Imean, a lot of lot of cells
right right when we launched it.Mhmm.
And we couldn't done itourselves. And I would say,
during that point, you don'tknow what you don't know is all

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the meat that we bought has aexpiration date because there's
preservatives in it and eventhen, we're like, oh, our Roman
noodles are going bad. Yeah. Orour our rice now have little
mites in it. You know?
Like, even though we protectedit or, other things that have
sugars are you know, you can'teat them now. You can't consume
them now.

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Speaker 3 (16:20):
And then, Jordan and I were, you know, during that
time COVID, a lot of things wereshut down. The biggest things
were a lot of people started,drinking a lot. So liquor stores
were open, and people startedgolfing a lot. Yeah. And so
we're like, hey, let's startgolfing more.
And so at that time, we realizedwe had some injuries. And we're
like, how do we prevent this?How do we get better? And then

(16:41):
we saw who's a carnivore guy?Sean Baker.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Sean Baker.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
So and so we're like realizing and deep diving and
kinda going a rabbit hole about,you know, god created meat for
us at the beginning and then westart eating it and realizing we
went on it for, like, what? Likeyear. Yeah. I mean, for a long
time and realized our bodieswere healing once we weren't
using the preservatives. Weren'tweren't we using the pesticides

(17:07):
that are in most The pesticides.
Yeah. The vaccines. And soactually I have a really good
verse. And we all started makingsense because then you start
tying what we're taught socialmedia to what conflicts to the
Bible. It doesn't, you know, andthen you're like, okay.
Now, there's a bigger agenda.So, in first Timothy four three

(17:30):
in the King James version. Now,if you go to the other versions,
it just says, it doesn't say theright words. So, the King James
is talks about forbidding tomarry which they're doing that.
Like, hey, let's marry the samespouse or you can't.
The the same gender. Yeah. Andcommanding to abstain from meats
and you're like, oh, that'sinteresting and then, you

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basically, it goes on and onabout it for god created or for
every creature god is good andnothing to refuse if it is to be
received with Thanksgiving. So,it starts talking about that and
we start communicating. We'relike, but we feel so much better
when we just eat meat.
Right. We feel and, know, likeand then the world say no, but
you're gonna have highcholesterol. And then Sean Baker
start doing all these studiesand then Joe Rogan and debunking

(18:15):
all this stuff. And then all ofa sudden, people are getting
cured of diabetes. People aregetting cured of, you know

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Autoimmune disease.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Autoimmune. Yeah. Lyme disease is like, oh, how
you can't fix that. It's alwaysin your blood. Now, are getting
fixed by it because your body'sactually self healing the way it
was.
So, that's kind of where wereally start pushing meat but
also how can we do some conserveit, not only conserve it without
anything in it without vaccinesor preservatives. Mhmm. But now

(18:43):
we can actually, the way we'rewe're doing it, it preserves all
the minerals in it, all theiron.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yep. All all the nutrients, all the vitamins, all
that stuff. So when when westarted freeze drying it, we
were like, you know, we're we'regonna do this raw. It's not
gonna be

Speaker 3 (18:58):
We didn't even know about that that people were
having problems doing it.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah. And so we're like, we're gonna do this raw so
that we can use it however wewant to when we need to use it.
Right? And I believe that wewere the first on the market
that that that was doing it raw.We weren't even trying to be the
first at anything.
It just so happens that that'sjust how things were working out
at the time. But, you know, withwith how how we do it, you know,

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it'll get a ten to fifteen yearshelf life completely raw. So
when you rehydrate it And and itIt brings out back all the
blood, all the all the fat,everything. And so you can make
a medium rare hamburger. Youcould, you know, just anything.
So

Speaker 3 (19:38):
I mean, when we first tried it, I think it's really
when you think about is it god'splan or not. When we first tried
it, everything was like perfect.And then we're like, okay. Let's
let's start changing a fewdifferent ways and whatever. And
then we were like, it wouldn'twork.
And we started hearing othercompanies in Texas that were
trying it and it wouldn't work.And we realized the way we did

(19:59):
the first time actually worked.It's not just get a freeze dryer
and

Speaker 2 (20:03):
put meat in. Yeah. I I believe it was divinely
inspired the way we did itfirst. It wasn't it wasn't
because we're smart orintelligent or because we have
great beards like you. It wasjust because god just inspired
it.
He just he just poured it out,you know, And so just luckily,
you know, just being in hiswill, you know, things just
worked out the way they weresupposed to.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
So some of this it's interesting your story how
similar is to my story because Iwent through that same process,
and then I ended up getting afreeze dryer. Right? But for me,
actually, of the drivers waseggs Because Okay. At that time,
we had, like, 50 chickens for afamily of three. So Wow.
That's hilarious. Getting, youknow, 35, 40 eggs a day, which
was, like, way too many. So Istarted water glassing. Right?

(20:43):
Which I'm not sure if you guysare familiar with water glassing
eggs.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
You you use a preserving lime in glass jars.
And before I knew it, I had,like, five gallon buckets lined
up of, like, water glassed eggs,but water glassing only has a
shelf life of, you know, one totwo years or so. And I was
thinking, okay, there's got tobe a different way. So then I've
got into freeze drying. But Iwanted before we jump into kind
of the specifics of freezedrying, so I wanna focus on

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that.
Like, taking a step back, like,when I look at when I look at
America, and you guys kind ofmentioned, you know, the the the
fragility of life. And I broughtthis book, The Lost Ways, right,
which is interesting. It saysthe, SHTF we all prep for is
what folks one hundred and fiftyyears ago called daily life. No
electrical power. Norefrigerators.
No Internet. No computers. NoTV, etcetera. And and that's I

(21:30):
think that's kinda what it is.So one of my kind of I do a lot
of work on the property orwhatever, I always got the
audiobooks and podcasts.
And my favorite genre ofaudiobooks is the, you know,
kind of the, like, fictionstories of people living in post
collapse scenarios. Like, notlike zombie apocalypse, but
realistic scenarios of griddown, that kind of stuff
happening. Everything okay onyour end?

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Mhmm. Okay. So make sure. Okay. And so but, you
know, one thing you realize isthat there's a book there's a
book called, one second after bya guy named William Ford.
I'm not sure if you've read itbefore, but it's about a EMP
attack. And he he uses thisanalogy, and I thought it was so
good. He says, basically, that,like, life in America is like

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it's just like a fragile,tropical plant living in a
greenhouse. It's like that plantcan only survive with the
perfect conditions, with withshelter, with everything. And if
if if there's any one scenariothat, like, prevents that
greenhouse from operating, thatplant's dead.
And and I look at, you know,America now, like, I I don't

(22:36):
think and I think it's bydesign. I don't think our
country has ever been in a placewhere humans have such a poor
ability to survive. Like, we'venever been this vulnerable,
where a lot of people if theydon't get their meds every day
within a week, they're eitherlosing their minds, or they're
they're dying. Right? Couple ofweeks.

(22:58):
That's one thing. People havewe've lost the ability. People
don't know that, like, oh, yeah.Like, in a collapsed scenario,
one of the leading causes ofdeath is diarrhea because
everyone starts drinking youknow, they they they don't have
water stored, so they'redrinking from the creek. Well,
there's a dead cow up the creek,and now they've got a a disease,
and now they've got parasites,and they're and they're just
there.
They're pooping their guts outuntil they die. Right? So, like,

(23:22):
our country is is so fragile.Like, so fragile. And and I've
I've done, you know, a lot ofresearch into this, and even to,
like, the experts say that ifthere's, say, a grid down
scenario in America within thefirst year, between seventy five
and ninety percent of all peopleare dead.
Like, that's like, that's whatwe've got to. Like, we've gotten
to a place where how is it thata hundred years ago, if the grid

(23:46):
went down, nobody would die.Right? You know, pretty much. Or
you may say a hundred and fiftyyears ago.
Like, it's like, oh, okay. Somehouses had electricity, but a
lot of them didn't. They justsurvived. But we've become so
dependent on these modernsystems that if those modern
systems are removed, we have noidea how to survive. Like, don't

(24:07):
know how to can, don't know howto preserve meat, don't know how
to hunt or trap, don't know howto, you know, go go go in your
backyard and find herbalremedies for sicknesses or any
of these things.
Like, we've become such afragile country.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Right. If you I I have some numbers here for you.
You're you're talking about ahundred and fifty years ago. You
know, when we when we do what wedo, we're like teaming up with
farmers and ranchers for aspecific reason because we know
that the food supply chain isactually really fragile. And we
actually export out a lot ofour, you know, beef and stuff
like that to other countries.

(24:45):
But

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Not not us.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Not not us. No.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
But United States.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
I'm talking about United States. Yeah. But when
you go back to 1825, okay, therewas 72% of the population were
farmers and ranchers. And that'sabout 8,600,000, and 3.4 were
not. Let's go to 1875.
58% were farmers and ranchers,and 42% was not. And the and the

(25:09):
population there was 15,000,000were farmers and ranchers. 1925,
we're gonna jump ahead a littlebit. 41% were farmers and
ranchers, and that's 20,000,000now. And 29.5 was not.
Nineteen seventy five, 26% wasfarmers and ranchers. So we're

(25:30):
starting to go down quicklyhere. Go to February '15, Only
12% were farmers and ranchers.That's 19,800,000. And the other
88%, that's a 145,000,000 arenot farmers and ranchers at a
time.
Let's go to 2025. Now thesenumbers are pretty impressive.

(25:51):
Only point seven per by the way,only point 2% of America is now
farmers and ranchers. The other99.8% is not. So when you look
at that percentage, it's point7,000,000.
And so, I guess, 700,000 yeah.And then on the non farmers and

(26:12):
ranchers, it's 360,000,000people. So you got you got less
than point 2% of Americanpopulation feeding the other
99.8% of America. That's afragile place that we shouldn't
be at and we that should bescary for people when they look
at those numbers. And that'swhat we see.
And so we're like how do we makesure we have life insurance. We

(26:35):
have car insurance, we have, youknow, we have all kinds of
insurance for the things that wewant to protect.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Phone insurance.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah. Exactly. IPhone insurance but we don't have food
insurance. The average personhas just a couple of days of
food in their house. And thatwas including us pre pandemic
until it woke us up and we'relike, Houston, we have a
problem.
Like, we're not okay right now.Like, we're not in a safe place
to take care of our family andwe gotta do something about it

(27:03):
and right now, at least we havethe opportunity because the next
time something like thishappens, we may not get the
chance to recover and to do thethings we should have been
doing.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
And I think most, you know, there's a lot of
Christians and believers and itdepends on what your doctrine
was taught, you know, like,whether it's once save, always
save, or you know, god willalways provide, you know, and
there's always a good a story. Ithink it was, you know, maybe
grandpa told us but it was like,there's a flood and the guys end
up going to his roof becausethere's a flood and then, you

(27:35):
know, somebody comes by offershelp offers help in a boat. He
says, no, god's going to provideand so, another boat comes by
and he and the water's gettinghigher and they say, hey, you
want some help? He was like, no,god's going to provide And then
so finally, he's up to his neckand the water on the roof.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Why? I think there's a helicopter.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
The helicopter comes by. Yeah. He has, hey. Do you
need help? And then he goes, no.
God's gonna provide.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Right.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
And so, you know, he dies. And so when he's in
heaven, you know, everybodysays, what's the first question
you're gonna ask, you know, god?He goes, god, why didn't you
save me? Why didn't you provide?He goes, I sent help three
times.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
I sent a boat. I sent a helicopter.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
But you never took it. Right? Right. And I think
some people aren't so naive.They don't really realize what's
in front of them, what'shappening because they're
they're going off of emotion andnot actually the calling.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
And I I I think for us, one of these things that
we're looking at the Biblewhether it be Old Testament, New
Testament, you know, especiallywhen you're looking at at the
New Covenant. There's a couplethings I'm looking at of god
providing there and you know,it's not the Old Testament where
god's just raining manna downthese days. You know? It's just

(28:49):
not. God works differently nowbecause he gave us the
authority.
But usually when god provides,especially in the New Testament,
he either works with somethingthat you already have like the
fish and the loaves and hemultiplies it. Right? Or he
gives you a call to action andtells you to go do something.
Hey, stretch out your hand. Youwanna be healed?
Stretch out your hand. You wannabe healed? Walk to the waters.

(29:09):
Go wash your eyes. So there'seither an action like a call to
action or he uses something youalready have that you're
offering up as a sacrifice oryou're or you're offering up for
him to to multiply and so that'skind of our mindset is one,
we're going to we're going to dothe call to action.
We're to do the thing that heasked us to do, first of all,
and second of all, we're to havesomething on hand that he can

(29:31):
use and that he can multiply.And that's basically our mindset
is to have something he can useand to obey what he tells us to
do.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
And I think I think what's more important is during
the rush in the 2020, we did alot of things more so out of
fear. Yeah. Because it's thefirst time we've ever been in
that situation. And then at somepoint, you know, me and my wife
were like, we can't keep doingthis. Spiritually, we didn't
feel right.
We're like, nope, we're notgoing to spend any more money.
We're we're going to actuallyjust seek the spirit. Like, god,

(30:01):
what do you want? And I thinkall of a sudden, when we really
surrendered, we were like, hey.We'll go where you want us to
go.
We'll move if we gotta move.Whatever we gotta do, we'll buy
or we'll store food if you wantus to store food. It it was a
mind shift because we now weweren't doing out of fear. So
now when we we're doing themeat, it's like, we're going to
use this whether it's now. Weuse it all the time, daily, or

(30:25):
we're to use it in fifteen yearsand then we're like, since we're
not doing it out of fear, wefelt, I felt like a relief and
that's why we're kind of whatwe're doing.
It's it's a it's a today thing.It's for you can use it for
animals. We know what's in it.It's for the future and also
more importantly, what we hadand I think we sent you guys

(30:46):
some of these but salvationtracks. We're like, how do we
actually make this a differentproduct?
A different company. A differentcompany also in alignment with
the god's calling becauseultimately, it's share his word.
Share his promises and but alsodon't do it out of fear. So,
that's

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, when when when we're thinking
like, how do we turn it in thisinto a kingdom business? Yeah,
we're giving people meat in areally healthy meat and a really
amazing meat. How do we use thislike for his glory later and
it's like we're thinking it'sjust like, man, there's gotta be
a way that people can make adecision about Jesus at the end.
You know, like, whatever peoplebelieve about the Bible, whether

(31:25):
there's a pre trip, mid trip,whatever the heck. It doesn't
really change the fact that thatJesus is the only way.
And so we're like, you know, thequickest way to a man's heart is
to is is his stomach. Dude,like, we gotta have salvation
tracks in these bags becausewhenever we're gone, dude, this
could reach millions of peopleand we're not even here anymore.
We're just we're just we're justplanting seeds all over the

(31:47):
planet right now. So, I mean,people are gonna like people
like churches have it in theirpantries. This is great for
disaster relief because itweighs nothing.
You know? So, I mean, thesethings, like, we're we're trying
to get these these things allover the planet, you know, for
for people to have now but alsofor people to have later
whenever whenever they wheneverthey need the answer, you know?

Speaker 3 (32:07):
I think the real confirmation of what we when we
did that transition. Yeah. Imean, you know, because you
don't know what you don't know.There's a lot of times like
we've been praying for healingor certain things in our
businesses to come to pass.Well, you know, god's a god of
yes and amen but also sometimesit takes time And so sometimes

(32:28):
it's like, okay.
I mean, there's things coming topass right now but we've been
praying for for what? And.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
A lot of years.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Through, you know, about two or three years but
then we change our mindset.We're like, god, thank you for
this to come. It's coming. Thankyou. Your word isn't, you know,
I'm not going to dwell in thesame prayers and and do it over
and over.
It's like, no, I'm speakingthings for it. I'm speaking life
already. So, we're as we'redoing that, the salvation
tracks. We had so many peoplestart calling our call centers.
People would talk to us forhours on the call center and it

(32:55):
was all alignment.
All over United States, Peoplewould be like, you know why I'm
buying this? Because when I'mgone, my house is will be the
storehouse. People will come tomy house and my neighbors don't
know god. My my my grandsondoesn't know god but they see
this, then, they can actuallypossibly get saved by what

(33:16):
they're they're doing and we'relike, man, this is like, we
started hearing that story afterstory and we're like, gosh and
we, I mean, all it startedlining up. A lot of people were
doing it not because of fear,

Speaker 2 (33:28):
but because of They're investing.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
They're investing of their communities or or the
neighbors.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah. We actually heard the other day from a guy.
He he he took one of our he tookone of our smaller bags. This is
a pound of meat in here. Yeah.
And he sent it to his buddybecause he's getting ready to go
camping with his kid.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
And he's and he's a pastor.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Well, yeah, our our our buddy is, but his friend is
a non a non

Speaker 3 (33:53):
He was atheist.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah. Yeah. And so he and and and the guy completely
he didn't even send it to, like,hey. I'm gonna silently attack
you with the salvation. Right?
But but he just sent it just forhim to have. You know? And he he
calls him. He said, he he had afew choice words. He's, you
know, are you be be be bekidding me, you know?
And he's like, what? He said, isthe meat bad? He said, no. It's

(34:15):
the best meat I've ever had. Hesaid, dude, he said, I've been
running from god my whole lifeand he keeps chasing me.
He's like, in the middle of thewoods, he comes after me. He
said he said, I just turned mylife over to god. And and he got
saved in the middle of the woodsbecause of because some freeze
dried meat in the salvationtrack.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yep. I mean, he was basically he goes, before he
opened it, he goes, god, ifyou're real

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Give me a sign.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Give me a sign.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
And he opens his meat, and there's his sign falls
out. Right. Exactly. A littlepostcard that says, here's god.
Right.
So I I I just had a question. SoI think that you two and I've
met you. We we actually, funnyenough, we were hanging out at
Clay Clark's house together ofall places, which is which is
fun. Wild wild, you know, wildexperience. Anything anything
with Clay is just kind of, like,unhinged.

(35:04):
Right? I've been. So but, youknow, my sense of both of you is
that you're very, very, like,very close to God. Like, your
your lives are very alignedaround your faith and your your
mission, which is beyond thisworld. When you of tap into your
own intuition and you lookaround the country right now,
what is your feeling?

(35:24):
Like, do you think that we're ata place where there's a lot of
security? Like or what is yourgut telling you if you're
sitting down thinking, okay,what's the next five years look
like? I know you know it as acrystal ball, but Right. What
what does your gut tell youwhere things are at right now?

Speaker 2 (35:40):
I think the thing that worries me is that not that
Trump is in office at all, butthe problem is is that I think
people are putting too muchtrust in a man, and they're not
really looking at the timelineof the bible. If you read the
bible at all, you know, there'sa lot of things that are
happening around the world,whether it be AI, whether it be,

(36:06):
you know, we're looking at, youknow, eventually the like the
collapse of the dollar peopleare moving away from the from
the from the from from thestandard of the dollar. People
are starting to refuse it andso, I see Christians putting
their feet up a little bit. Soit's a little concerning because

(36:26):
the other team does not do that.They're always on attack mode,
and they're not just attackingone angle.
They're attacking every anglesimultaneously at the same time.
So I think I think that's alittle concerning that people
put that much faith in a manbecause the only man should be
Jesus that we put the faith in.The only way to course correct

(36:47):
is is is a turning back to god.That is the only solution here.
Whether it puts off you know,whether the turning back or a
revival pushes us out anotherhundred years, two hundred
years, three hundred years, noone really knows.
But the thing is is that there'sno stopping what's gonna come at
some point. You know, god'salready told us he's coming

(37:09):
back. Things are unfortunatelygonna get worse. You know? And
that was even what Trump said.
He said, hey. Listen. This is myplan. I'm gonna tell you right
now, it's gonna get worse beforeit gets better. And he has no
idea on that timeline.
And, you know, he's like,farmers and ranchers, I love you
guys. You know, my heart goesout, yada yada. But
unfortunately, it's gonna getworse before it gets better. I

(37:31):
don't know how worse it can getto get rid of that 2% of the
American population that'sfarming and ranching but if it's
going to get worse, it's goingto make it extremely difficult
to even hang on to that 2% ofthe population. That that's kind
of where I'm looking at thingsbut you got you got big global
events like the red heifers inIsrael that are ready for
sacrificing, you know?
So, you got you got a lot ofdifferent angles. I think people

(37:51):
need to be a little bit moreconcerned about not what's in
the White House butprophetically, what is happening
in the Bible that's aligning up?

Speaker 3 (37:59):
What what's happening in god's house?

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yeah, I think I think for me personally, you have
three groups you know, but fornot the first group but okay, so
you, the first group is demonic,right? The atheist or the non
believers and they're going topush that agenda no matter what
and I was listening the otherday on the radio because

(38:23):
sometimes I'm I'm we're alwayslistening and you know, our own
music nowadays. We don't havetape players. We don't have CDs.
We don't have to fast forward.
It's really easy to do that. Iwas like, you know what?
Sometimes I just want to supportthe local radio station. And so
I was listening to K Love. No,Air One.
I was listening to Air One.They're like, I have a question.
Why is atheist always upset whenyou talk to god if it if they

(38:45):
don't believe in god? Like, whydoes that upset them? I'm like,
okay.
That's a good point. Like,because, you know, it doesn't
make sense. So you have thattype of group that's always
pushing agenda and for whateverreason, they're atheist but
they're trying, they're stillpushing the evil agenda because
they think it's fun to flirt,you know, flirt with the fire.
Then, you have, I think you havethe Christians, right? You have

(39:06):
the the lukewarm Christians.
I think those are people thatare putting their feet up
because now they're comfortable.Their jobs are good. They're
they're getting the money back.A guy, you know, like years ago
during COVID, they're about tohave a baby and you know,
they're living really, reallywell. All of a sudden, they
can't make house payments.
So, you know, I jump in, givethem house payments. They're
about to have a baby, give them,you know, six months of diapers.

(39:26):
Now they're going to, I wouldsay, I wouldn't say a lukewarm
church, but I would say it'sjust very basic. Just scraping
the the surface. I mean, mightget saved there but you're not
going to actually see the powerof the words and the healing
that god has for you.
Then, I think you also see thepeople. You have another group

(39:47):
that everybody can fall into itis almost a revival that's
happening. So, COVID wasn't justUnited States. It was worldwide.
So, what's weird to me and it'skind of alarming.
Now, you have people across thewhole world that are praising
Trump, okay? Talks about theBible, one world government. Who

(40:07):
is that person? What could leadto that? Not it's a certain
person but we don't know butnow, I'm thinking, oh, now,
there's possibilities.
Okay. One world currencies,whatever that might be. The
other day, I was at at a gasstation yesterday, and the Wi Fi
goes down. We think Wi Fi isinfinite. It's always there.
But when it goes down, you can'tuse credit cards. So everybody
in the store can't buy nothingbecause there's no Wi Fi. And

(40:31):
can you can only buy if you havecash when there nobody carries
cash.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Carries cash no more. Nobody

Speaker 3 (40:35):
carries cash. So I think you have others then you
start seeing overseas. We havereally you know, we have friend
we're friends with Steve ChickenLatte. We're friends with, you
know, Shuttlesworth. We'refriends with you know, Doctor
Rodney Howard Brown and we, thatwas only through COVID and we
see the revivals that'shappening there across the
world.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Millions of people are getting saved, right?

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Millions. So, I I see that revival is happening if
you're wanting to step in there.I'm seeing atheist. I'm seeing,
you know, now Joe Rogan'sattending church regularly. You
know, he's a huge and you know,entrepreneur but you start
seeing people switching groupsand I'm to say, I mean, you
know, I I see people that areatheists that you said, that one

(41:19):
guy, he got saved because now hefills a presence.
And then now you have peoplethat are getting lukewarm again.
And, you know, that's not whereyou wanna be. And then what it
says in the Bible, like

Speaker 2 (41:29):
When when when you look at everything going on now,
what are some of your concerns?

Speaker 1 (41:36):
How long do you have? Well yeah. Because I'm glad it's
fun it's funny to kinda be theperson that gets asked the
question,

Speaker 3 (41:47):
because I'm only

Speaker 1 (41:47):
asking the question. Go, okay, what's the next
question? How do I gosh. I mean,honestly, like, I'd probably say
my biggest concern, if I was toquantify it, is technocracy, is
AI driven mass surveillancestate, social credit system,
central bank digital currency,basically being ruled by

(42:11):
technology. And, you know, whatI've seen, you know, is what is
it?
The road to hell is paved ingood intentions. You look at
Trump getting in, and okay. Hey.Great. There's this this revival
happening of pro America, godbless America.
You know, Trump has his ownbible that he's releasing with
Lee Greenwood that they put out.And there's there's some great
stuff happening, but what I alsosee is a lot of Trojan horses. I

(42:35):
see, magically, the entirelineup of, like, the big tech
CEOs, the Silicon Valley CEOs,all behind Trump now, which, you
know, in my own kind of opinionand through my own research, you
know, big tech Silicon Valley isa front for the alphabet
agencies. Right? Like, know,Facebook wasn't some magical
story of this little guy in hisgarage, you know, that built

(42:58):
this massive thing.
It's like, no. It was it was agovernment you know, the the you
know, before that, it was it wasa government, you know, kind of
operation. I think it was aDARPA operation. It was called
Life Log that, you know, getsshut down the very day that
Facebook started. So think thatwhat we've been sold is all of
these, unicorn tech companies,which actually, I think, are
part of this massive deep stateapparatus to collect our data

(43:22):
and use it against us.
Right? And then then bring inAI, and to build a control grid.
So that's one of the big thingsI see. I'm very concerned about
the poisoning and the geneticmodification of the human race,
you know, whether what they'respraying in the skies, what
they're putting into our food. II think that what they're doing,
especially here in America, likewith what they've been feeding

(43:44):
us and what they've beeninjecting into us since
childhood, these are things thatI believe will be affecting us
for generations upongenerations.
Like, I I really my sense isthat it's it's like, in a lot of
ways, we're living in the daysof Noah. Right? The other thing
is just just the just thedivision and the amount of evil.

(44:05):
And what I've, you know, whatI'm witnessing is even within,
say, the so called conservativemovement, it's now splintered
into into a thousand differentpieces. There's no cohesion, and
there's infighting.
And so just, you know, my ownsense is is and that's here in
America, but the other thing isjust how there are so many
powerful countries and globalentities that want to bring

(44:29):
America to its knees. Like, youknow, how many terror cells are
in America right now, that cameacross the border? How many
Chinese troops are in Americaright now waiting for the order?
Right? So I I I feel like, youknow, we're at like, our country
is is in the most vulnerableplace it's ever been at since

(44:49):
the founding of this country.
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right and help us? Because thesecountries are like, look at
Europe.
Like, Europe is gone. Right?Like, you're if if you're if

(45:11):
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Yes. There's there's a lot.There's a lot that that concerns
me. That's for sure. I mean,like, I was saying I

Speaker 2 (46:34):
was gonna say

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
I was gonna say, you you said a lot there, and I
don't think people even pickedup on half of it. I mean, it it
is when you talk about the Imean, you're talking about a
beast system being set up. Imean, when the antichrist comes
in, the beast system isn't gonnabe invented by him. It's gonna
already be laid in place andthey just pull the trigger. You
know, when you talk aboutgenetic modification of the
human race, I mean, this is nota new thing.

(46:57):
I mean, when you go back toGenesis six, when the sons of
God, the angels, the fallenangels, you know, started making
basically genetic hybrids wherewhich were the Nephilim. Right?
But the whole thing there was tostop god's plan from happening.
And it was all designed toseparate, you know, because when
you genetically modify them,they didn't have a place in

(47:19):
god's world. And so basicallywhat happened is he wiped out
the entire planet to get rid ofof that of those hybrids so that
eventually Jesus could comethrough, you know, from from the
line of of Noah, you know, allthe way from David and all that.
I mean, there's a long journeyto get there, but they were
trying to stop god's plan fromhappening through genetic
modification of the human raceto get rid of the the the edemic

(47:42):
seed. So the original seed ofAdam. And so and even today, you
have to look at that and thinklike the Bible says there's
nothing new under the sun and sothey're still playing the same
game. They've been playing allthe way back from Genesis six.
They're just doing it slightlydifferent through pharmakia and
all kinds of other things.
You know, through it, but it'sstill designed to separate us

(48:04):
from the creator. And that'sall, that's always been the plan
is to either distract us,destroy us, or separate us. You
know, if they can keep usdistracted, they just keep us
out of the will of God. If we'retoo busy watching football or in
the NBA playoffs to see what'shappening, what's coming this
way and what's coming this way,what's coming from behind us,
then, they're then they'rethey're doing the thing that

(48:24):
they're they're they're beingsuccessful, you know? Yeah, but
so you you said a lot that I Iactually have a friend in Canada
and he got stuck in Canadaduring the pandemic.
You know, they couldn't leave.He's he's a he's a big YouTuber
and he's a great guy and he wastelling me that hey, they just
did this thing in Canada whereany foreign nations if they buy

(48:48):
companies here or whatever, theyhave the right to protect their
investment. I go, what exactlyare you talking about? And he
said, well, China, the CCP hasbought some some massive
companies up here in in Canada.I said, are you telling me they
have troops on the ground?
He goes, that's exactly what I'mtelling you. I said, oh, jeez.
Okay. So they're buying, youknow, corporations or companies

(49:09):
up there, and then they have thelegal right to protect their
investment. It just puts usright to just put them to the
north of us.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Exactly. So I wanna hone in on on on your on go back
to the beef and freeze dryingbecause Okay. We could kind of
finish my story about the eggs.What I came to the conclusion of
is that the only way I canpossibly preserve all these eggs
was freeze drying. So I wentout.
I got a a a Harvest Right freezedryer.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Right.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
And and I could, you know, sort of freeze dry for my
own eggs, which was great. Butthen I realized I was like, oh,
I've got, like, I don't know,200 pounds of of of beef. Right?
Of just ground beef that, that,you know, maybe it was 300
pounds. We bought a a bunch ofbeef.
Right? And I'm thinking, well,this like, what happens if the
power goes out long term? Thisis all waste. Right? It's gonna

(49:56):
be full of maggots in a week.
And so that that's where Iactually started freeze dried my
own beef. Right? It startedknow, was like, oh, at the first
I was cooking it up, and I waslike, well, wonder if I could do
it raw. I went and found some,know, some videos on it. I was
like, oh, actually, you can youcan freeze dry fry you can
freeze dry beef raw, and itlasts, like, over a decade,
shelf stable in my basement,like, a Mylar bag with an

(50:18):
auction packet.
Or, you know, it's like, oh,like, that to me, was it was
like it was like sorcery almost.Right? It's like, you know, like
modern day alchemy that you can,you know, put something in this
machine that comes out with thisstuff that will, like, last for
a really, really long time. So,walk us through, like, how you
guys went from doing this foryour friends and your family and

(50:38):
and your neighbors andeverything to where you're at
now with which as I understandit, like like, there's a lot of
different prepared foodcompanies. Right?
Like, I work with Heaven'sHarvest. I love those guys.
They're great people. And theythey've got, like, their protein
packs, which are good. A lot ofpeople, they have, like, the
food buckets, which a lot offood buckets are actually junk.
They're they're they'reactually, you know, Kool Aid and

(50:58):
pudding mixes that jack up thecalories, and, oh, the price per
calorie is so inexpensive. It'slike, well, yeah, because you're
getting junk. And people think,well, at least it's some
calorie. It's like, well, ifyou're living in like a grid
down scenario or some sort ofdisaster scenario, that's when
nutrition is the most important.Like right now, if you're eating
junk food, you know, you canaccess access and go to the gym,

(51:18):
and you can do things to balanceit out.
But if you're in survival mode,and you're working your
property, you know, eight hoursa day, and and you're walking to
haul water, you you don't needKool Aid and pudding. Like, you
need good protein and and goodsustenance. So, I I like, as far
as I know, you guys are the onlyguys that have really pioneered
specifically figuring out how tocreate shell stable protein,

(51:44):
which is infinitely important.So so walk us through this,
like, what your operation lookslike and what you do and why
your your products are soimportant for people in terms of
preparedness.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
So so everything we do is fresh. So we're we're not
keeping a ton of this on theshelf just burning up the shelf
life. So when people order, Imean, we're we're in the process
of manufacturing it every dayalways, but our goal isn't to
just have a ton of it on theshelf and burn up shelf life.
Our goal is to give you freshproduct every time you receive

(52:17):
it. I I I previously mentionedthat it's grass fed, grass
finished.
The reason why we did that forus as a healthy thing with has
no antibiotics, nopreservatives, no vaccines, or
anything like that. When you dograss fed, grass finish, you
your omega threes and your omegasixes are one to one ratio. One,

(52:39):
you could look at it in thisway. Now I'm not a doctor, but
this is what doctors have toldme. This is what some really
smart rangers have told me thatthat one to one ratio is
important because it kind ofkeeps the blood thickening and
the blood thinning agenttogether.
Kinda keeps it, you know, andthen but once you go to grass
fed grain finished and there's alimit of how long that they can

(53:00):
grain finish these cows becausethey'll destroy em. So, you
know, they have to give em likeoh like basically Tums and stuff
like that because the acid getsso so strong that they they just
can't handle it anymore but thatthat omega three to omega sixes
jump up from a one to 20 to oneto 50 ratio and basically, the

(53:21):
doctors are saying like, if youhave some type of blockage
issue, whether it be, you know,in your veins or your heart or
your head or whatever, you know,you're talking about like a
possible stroke or a possibleheart attack. Once you get those
levels out out there like that.But they're only allowed to like
grain feed these things for likeninety days because if you go
out to I believe it's onehundred and twenty days. There's

(53:43):
something catastrophic thathappens to the to their liver.
Do you know what it is? Theirtheir liver explodes. So, we do
grass fed, grass finished onlyfor us because that's what we
want to eat and right now, ouronly product is ground beef. So,
we take the whole cow. So, it'sthe steaks.
You got the rib eye. You got theNew York strip. You got the

(54:04):
filet. You got everything insidethat beef. So it's basically a
steak burger.
So you can make anything youwant to, whether it's meatballs,
meatloaf, smash burgers,whatever. Yeah. Chili, tacos. So
the meat's not predestined forjust one product. There's a lot
of products out there that wedidn't want, and that was
already beef crumbles that'salready predestined to be on

(54:26):
nachos or tacos for the rest ofyour life.
We wanted something for us. Now,we're now we are in the process
of doing other things likesteaks which we already have em
on hand, eggs, and but the thingis is that they have to be the
best. So, we're teaming up andfinding the right people in
place to make sure that we getthe best products And but yeah.
So I I don't know if you haveanything to to fill in on that.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Yeah. So so basically, they do the ground
beef, a lot of people, you know,I'm just trying to talk if if
they buy it at the store. Theyjust think it's, you know, we we
learned so much through thisprocess. So beef that you buy at
the store, no matter if it saysgrass fed or grass finished,
it's usually all the leftovercuts that is thrown away that

(55:08):
they don't wanna waste, and thenthey're gonna grind it up double
grind whatever so it's not hard.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Not not only that. It could be from thousands of
different animals.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Yeah. The same animal. Yeah. It could be tons
of different ones. And so that'swhat you're kinda getting.
So then with us it is the samecow processed. That's why I mean
a lot the the the richness ofthe taste is there because we're
taking all the cuts. Mhmm. Andputting it in there. So just to
clarify, if if people just thinkthere's a difference.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
If you want to go pull up sorry. Just a little
fact here. A McDonald's burgercontains DNA from many different
cows, not just one. One studyfound over 1,300 different
strains of cow DNA in a singlequarter pounder patty. Right?
Like, that's that's a problem.If if you it's like, woah. Like,
how is it that they're gettingover a thousand cow cows DNA

(56:01):
into one single patty. Yeah.That doesn't sound

Speaker 2 (56:05):
pretty good. It's impressive. I mean, that that
should go in the Guinness Bookof World Records or something,
but that that should be called,like, the Frankenstein burger. I
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
So I I know you guys have some there. Do you mind
opening a package and, like,showing like, what does it look
like? Like, how do youreconstitute it? So say, you
know, say it's not even survivalprocess. Say, you know, it's
like, oh, crap.
We're out of beef, and we reallywanted to make some spaghetti
bolognese tonight. And I waslike, oh, okay. I I got my
freeze dried beef. What doesthat process look like if you

(56:36):
wanna take that and and and cookwith it?

Speaker 2 (56:38):
So we so we we have different packets. You know? So
we have, you know, a smallerpack, which is a pound. We have
our bigger packets that arethree pounds. And these, when
you you open them up, there is aresealable spot as well.
But these are these areindividually packaged in their
own Mylar bags. So there'll bethree of them in here. There's
three pounds. But, basically,you just you just open this up

(57:00):
here.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
And

Speaker 2 (57:02):
it has a it has a oxygen absorber and a moisture
absorber. So that it reallyhelps protect that. Basically,
whenever you're talking aboutpreserving food, you have like
three elements that are gonnafight against it. That's
moisture, temperature, andlight, you know, or or and
oxygen. So you when you removethose things, that's how this
thing becomes shelf stable forover a decade.

(57:25):
But basically, you just tearthis open. You would take these
two two patties out. These aretwo half pound patties. And then
you just break them up into, youknow, smaller pieces. You pour
water over it, let it rehydrate,and you're ready to rock and
roll.
It brings it completely back tolife. The blood will be back.
The and it usually takes aboutten to fifteen minutes.
Sometimes, it could take alittle longer. It there's no

(57:47):
exact science to this part,unfortunately.
It just it will rehydrate whenit rehydrates, but it's usually
pretty quick. And then you'reable to use it just like you
would any normal ground beefthat you got from the store.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
And with this, this is raw meat. Right. It's freeze
dried. Right. And it's notdehydrated.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
It's yeah. It's not jerky.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
So there's a lot of people that are like, oh, yeah.
Dehydrated meats. Right? Nope.That's totally different
processes.
Dehydration is is usually stillrequires most beef jerky at
stores are, you know,dehydrated. Mhmm. But they have
a lot preservatives in it.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Right.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
And then there's moisture in it. Right. And lots
of sugars in there. And so thisis actually freeze dried. So the
process is getting under, youknow, sub levels with under tons
of different pressure and thenpulling out all the moisture and
making it basically there's nomoisture in it.
So, that's what you're adding.So, when we say reconstitute,

(58:39):
you're just adding back the lifeto it.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Yeah. And so it it it says it it it gives you all the
instructions here on the back ofthe packet. There's even a QR
code so people, can just evensee a YouTube video just to make
it really simple. But it'sbasically you remove the
backing, the packets. You breakup the contents into bite sized
pieces and add it into the bowlor a plastic bag.
You can use the plastic bag thatit comes with and add 10 ounces

(59:04):
of cool water per pound. Let itsit ten to fifteen minutes or
until meat is fully hydrated andthen you typically don't have to
drain any water because itcompletely gets reabsorbed. And
then and then you're ready togo.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
And so, okay. I'll pull up your website here, which
is griddownchowdown.com. Let'ssee. Oh, here we go. So walk us
through, like, what is the cost?
Do you have subscription stuff?You know, the way I look at this
is that there's you know, somepeople, like, every month, they

(59:38):
put money into a four zero onek. Right? Or they'll do this.
Like, to me, like, if I have anyextra money, say, you know, say
I've got $500 that month.
It's like, okay. I can put thistowards something useful. It's
gonna be silver commonly. Right?Okay.
Hey. I'll get, you know, 10 moreounces over this month or
whatever. I look at this assomething where it's, like,
almost like you just put onsubscription. Like, every month,
you you put some away. Right?

(59:59):
It's like this is just your thesame way you're saving for your
four zero one k. You guys talkedabout insurance earlier.
Everyone's paying insurance. Youknow, if everyone's people are
paying even $10 a month foriPhone insurance or AppleCare or
whatever it is. Like, that'swhat this is.
It's just it's an insurancepolicy that if things go bad,
that you've got this, like, youknow because, like, what is 200
pounds of shelf stable groundbeef worth in a situation where

(01:00:23):
you don't have access to beefanymore? Like, you could trade a
pound of that for five chickensor I mean, it's this stuff is it
it's kind

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
of All the gold you want. Gold.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Do you know what I mean? It really is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
And and so, walk us through the the pricing. I know
we've got discount codes set forpeople, which I always like to
do that for the Made in Americalisteners. But, how much does it
cost? You know, how does thatcost compare to, like, once it's
reconstituted? Because I knowthat you say, okay.
It's three pounds. Is it threepounds pre, you know, pre three
pounds before the water comingout or three pounds as the the

(01:00:57):
solid? Like, does it all breakdown?

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Right. So, basically, one pound is basically four
servings. And so in our in ourone pound bag, it's basically
it's one pound raw weight. Youknow, now it weighs nothing. You
can take 24 pounds and itweighed by six pounds in your
backpack.
But so it's one pound of actualraw material in here once you

(01:01:20):
rehydrate it. But there's fourservings in here. In our bigger
bag, there's 12 servings. And sothe way that it breaks down is
that I believe this is $35.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
So the on on the the discount, it's usually 45. Okay.
We're at 35. And then with

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Your discount.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Your discount, they it equals to about $8 a burger.
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
For a

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
quarter pound burger. Not like a like a McDonald's
burger. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Yeah. Frankenstein burger.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Yeah. And and so and and so with this, the nice thing
is is that it's kind of like yousaid, it is it is food insurance
for maybe an an emergency Butwhat I see is that people are
actually investing in theirhealth. And if you look at the
ingredients on this thing, itsays ingredients. It says beef.

(01:02:15):
It says 90% lean, 10% fat.
It's it's just beef. That's allit is. Grass fed, grass finished
beef. There's nothing

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
So there's no crickets or cricket protein.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Yeah. There's there's no

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Or rubber.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
There's no bug protein in there. Three d print
meat? Yeah. And so people areconcerned about their health.
That that's why you have thiswhole maha movement right now.
And so I'm if you invest alittle bit more in health,
you're gonna spend a whole lotless at the doctors. And so
people see that, wait, so I canset this up on subscription. I
don't have to go to the grocerystore to get my fresh beef. And

(01:02:46):
no matter how crazy life gets,no matter how many soccer games
we have on the weekend, that itI'm not going to forget about
the beef that I need to preparein my fridge and it's going to
go bad. So, a lot of people aremoving towards this healthy
beef.
They know what's in it and moreimportantly, they know what's
not in it and so, they just setthis up on subs every month and
it comes fresh to their porchevery single month and they just

(01:03:08):
decide how how much they wantand they're taking a certain
amount and they're replacing allthe beef that they're actually
getting at the grocery storebecause it's it's valuable to
them and then it it it savesthem time. It saves them money
in the long run and it themhealthy and then they're even
putting some back to save for arainy day and so people are

(01:03:28):
putting this in their pantries.They're putting it in their
basements. They're putting itunderneath their beds. It's easy
to store.
So, we thought that this wasgoing to be a doomsday type of
last ditch option product andreally what we just what we've
seen is that that's not thecase. People are using it for
both. They're using it forhealthy living lifestyles, and
they're using it for food andinsurance as well. So, that's

(01:03:49):
kind of what we're seeing acrossthe board.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Yeah and they're also using it for travel when they
travel because you can actuallytake this on an airplane and
travel with it. And not worryabout stuff. You're traveling a
lot. You when you get to yourhotel, you can cook it. Also,
you mentioned earlier those, youknow, preservative proteins and
sugars.
The problem is we've heard a lotof people are buying this meat
extra because a lot of people,they're single. They're they're

(01:04:14):
widows, whatnot, and then havecats or dogs. So, they're like,
I want to feed my animal thisbecause I can't do, they can't
eat all this other stuff that'spreserved in sugars because
they'll die. So, now that we'refiguring out, there, people are
using it all around And onething

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
I've I've actually seen people just feed their dogs
this whole thing dry as a as aas a treat and they just love
it. But you know, as far as oursubs, you know, we have it set
up to where how however yourbudget will allow you that
there's gonna be a spotavailable for you whether it's
just one pound a month, set itand forget it, or or some people

(01:04:50):
are buying a whole lot more thanthat. People are buying 24 a

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
month. But also, you forgot to mention. If they're on
the subscription, they'reautomatically getting another
percent off. Right. Discountedrate.
Yeah. And then plus Seth's rate.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Yeah. Seth's discount.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Yeah. The best deal we'd like to try to help people
is like, hey, we're going to, sowhen people place orders and and
we didn't talk about thisearlier, it's fresh. But what
what is fresh really mean? Itmeans that when we need another
cow, when we need another 10 or20 cows, we're calling them and
down the street, I mean, acouple hours away.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
And they're processing. They're getting the
the cows in line and thenthey're shipping it within you
know, basically, what, two tofour weeks depends on how many
cows are in line at thatbutcher. So, we when we get the
meat. So, subscriptions, whatthey allows us to do. One, it's
not always open.
So, we can only take so manysubscriptions because we want to
meet the demand Because we wantto actually deliver a a really

(01:05:45):
good quality product. Freshproduct. Not just about money
but about people's needs.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
And the way that works is as we see the demand,
we just scale up. So, you know,as as we and we and we usually
send out Emails to you and andand to the subscribers. Hey,
it's open and whatever. So, butwe have like, we have this
product and then we also hadpremade hamburger patties that
are on subs as well. That way,people were asking, hey, can you

(01:06:10):
make our life a little biteasier?
Can you just go ahead andpremake them into quarter
pounders for us? We're like,yeah, we can do that. So we
ended up making just hamhamburger patties, which if you
wanted to do the same thing, youcould do it with that or you can
already have the premadehamburger patties which is the
same price. We didn't charge anyextra to do that but if you're
like, hey, I don't I havehamburger patties but I want to
actually make meatloaf ormeatballs with it. You can do

(01:06:31):
the same thing because it's justgoing to rehydrate raw.
You can use it however you wantto. But yeah. So but those subs
are are open now. They'rethey're ready to rock and roll.
But, you know, but those arelimited.
So as as as those get packedout, you know, we might shut
that down for a little bit untilwe scale up for the next level
of subs.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
That makes makes perfect sense. So Yeah. Our
promo code is Seth, s e t h,which is typically what, you
know, most of the promo codeshave are Seth. They get 10% off.
So it depends off whether it's asubscription or just a regular
purchase.
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Right. Both.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Okay. The website grid down chow down. I'll make
sure that all these links are inthe description, including the
promo code for people. And thisis yeah. Again, to me, this is
this is insurance.
This is family insurance. I youknow, I I've I've been prepping
for really the past, like,probably four or five years.
We've been pretty intense on it.We've got, like, five gallon

(01:07:22):
actually, I exceeded by storagein one location, so I had get a
storage unit somewhere else forall the five gallon buckets of
rice and beans and stuff. That'syou know?
So we're I'm a little bit nutsabout it, but it's my life. I
mean, I I live this. So, but forpeople, I think, especially I
get a lot of people that ask me,they're in apartments, and they
say, look, I don't have a wholelot of room. And if if you're

(01:07:42):
looking at calorie density perweight, there's nothing else
that I can imagine. Like, maybe,like, you know, a bottle of
olive oil is maybe more caloriesper weight, but, you know,
you're not gonna be drinkingolive oil.
That's not gonna be helping outwith your, stomach stuff, I
wouldn't imagine. But this isreally good for for storage, for
backpacking, the go bag. Like,this is one of the great things
for go bags. You know, it weighsso little. Toss them in there.

(01:08:06):
So, again, you know, pull up thewebsite one more time. So grid
down chatdown.com. Promo code isSeth. And, yeah, I I just I
appreciate you guys giving usyour time today. I I appreciate
what you're doing.
I love how you've turned thisinto more of a kingdom business
and and and more mission driven.And, yeah, any any final
thoughts as we wrap up?

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Yeah. I I was gonna say we we forgot to mention any
of your any of your partners orpeople that listen to you, if
they're gonna gonna get signedup for a a monthly sub, anybody
that signs up for 12 servings ormore, we give them £1 for free.
That way they can test thatright away. Test it, give it
away. If you're wanting to ifyou're wanting to send a a

(01:08:45):
sneaky salvation track to yourfamily member or or your
neighbor, you you can send thatone pound to him for free.
And so that that that just givesus a way to get you something to
where the you you can test itout or you can send it to
somebody else. So if they order12 servings or more on the subs,
then they they immediately getthat free that free pound sent
out with them as well.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Awesome. Well, thank you guys very much. Yeah. And,
Nae, anything anything final forNo.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
That was great. Well,

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
thank you for having us on. I I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Yeah. Absolutely. What's beards are always
welcome. So that's that's

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
so Alright.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
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