Exposing Big Pharma’s #1 WEAPON for Keeping You SICK w/ Dr. Edward Group

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth
Holehouse. So my journey withthis show has been a journey of
discovering a lot of new andamazing information. Some good,
some bad, some frightening, someugly, but it's all part of the
journey of just awakening.Right?
I'm sure you're also on thatsame journey yourself. And one

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of the big things that reallyhas been core to my own learning
about just this this insaneagenda to poison and depopulate
humanity has been understandingthe role of our own health and
modern medicine, the Rockefellermedical system. And I've had the
opportunity to interview a lotof really amazing guests like

(00:56):
doctor Brian Artis and, EdwardGriffin and John Richardson and
people that have been really onthe on the, you know, forefront
trying to help people awaken tojust health and the amongst, you
know, amongst many other things.And so but one of the central
tenets in this understanding islooking at how are the different
ways that the globalists, thecontrollers, whatever you wanna

(01:18):
call them, how have theyspecifically been keeping us
sick? Because if you look at themedications that they're giving
us, if you look at the vaccinesthey're giving young children
and babies, the only conclusionyou can come to is that what
they're doing is creatingcustomers for life.
And, actually, vaccines are agreat example of that, of how
they give us all these poisons,and I got a lot of them. I was

(01:40):
born in the eighties, and myparents didn't know. Like, they
weren't anti vaxxers in theeighties. So I got the regular
vaccines that other kids did,and, thank goodness I'm I'm
mostly normal. But the kidsnowadays, not so much.
It's it's you look at theskyrocketing rates of autism,
and you can see that there'sthis very, very overt agenda to
poison us and to keep us sick.Because if we're sick, there's a

(02:03):
lot of good, you know, things ifyou're the elites. Right? We're
not gonna rise up. We don't havethe health to to rise up and the
energy to fight back againstthem.
We don't have the mental clarityto see through their plans and
help awaken our fellow Americansand fellow humans against this
evil agenda. But also, it'screated lifelong customers that
were hooked on on so manypharmaceutical drugs, and we're

(02:23):
going in for very expensivetreatments. And gosh, if you get
cancer, there you go. There's atleast half a million dollars in
their pocket for chemotherapyand radiation and surgeries and
all this. But if you take a stepback and you see, wow, a lot of
this really changed in the earlynineteen hundreds when
Rockefeller came in.
Well, what was going on beforethat? And and that's been a

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great part of this journey isunderstanding, you know, what
were the natural ways thatpeople were being healed before?
Now granted, you know, we livein a world today where the
amount of poisons and toxins inour environment are probably,
you know, gosh, a 100,000 timeswhat they were a hundred years
ago. Like, you look what they'redumping in the skies, putting
into our food, and everything.And so understanding how to how

(03:10):
to see through this agenda tohow to kind of purify our
bodies, how to prevent thesetoxins toxins coming in is
really, really important for,our own fight for our health,
for our future, for ourchildren, for our grandchildren.
Now my guests say is doctor EdGroup, And if you're not
familiar with him, he's been apioneer in the alternative and
holistic health for a very, verylong time, you know, many

(03:31):
decades. And, you know, I justfinished the interview with him,
which was absolutelyfascinating, which I can't wait
to share with you. But last timeI interviewed him, one of the
things that that he talked aboutas being very central to
understanding our health and howto get healthy was the role of
our liver and how it's soimportant to actually clean out

(03:52):
our liver, which maybe you'vedone liver cleanses before.
Maybe you've you understandthis. I had done one, gosh,
maybe a decade or so ago, buthadn't really looked at the
liver as being a key part of myown kinda health, you know, and
and how I'm I'm I'm keepingmyself healthy and and active
and eating well and everythingand doing, you know, cleanses
and whatnot.
And but so something that hesaid in this interview really

(04:13):
kinda threw a lot of thingstogether in talking about how
the liver has been one of themost targeted organs by this
corrupt cabal in keeping ussick. Like, look at alcohol. I
remember hearing an interview, Ithink it was with Owen Benjamin,
and he was talking about whatwas happening in Hollywood and
the screenwriters andeverything. And he's someone

(04:34):
that was in that circle, and hestepped out and he's he's been
exposing it ever since. Onething that he said, though, was
that there was this very, verystrong agenda to make sure that
alcohol was in everything, tomake sure that the on the the
sitcoms, whether you're watchingfriends or The Simpsons, you
know, drinking his beer, toalways make it so that these
people are always drinkingalcohol.

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And look at the, you know, theoverall college lifestyle here
in America that's been created.You know, couple hundred years
ago, it wasn't like this, youknow, a hundred years ago. But
now, like, every kid that goesto college, I think less so
because it seems like theyounger generations are drinking
a lot less, which is a positivething, but the problem is
they're probably vaping and allthat other bad stuff. However,
just look at how much drinkinghas been ingrained in our

(05:15):
culture. Like, I grew upwatching Animal House with John
Belushi.
My dad was like, Seth, if youwanna watch a funny video, this
is one of the best funny videos.I was like, oh, okay. Cool, dad.
And it's pretty raunchy show,but it's all about excessive
drinking. And it really clickedfor me in this interview,
though, that them, the theglobalists and the the cabal
targeting our liver is whatcreates a very sick and

(05:39):
unhealthy race of people, whichmakes us very easy to control
and to suck the money out of us.
And so, after that lastinterview I did with with Ed
Group, my wife and I went out,and then we actually got the
liver cleanse. We did the livercleanse, and what came out of me
was shocking. I'll show it inthe interview today. I mean,
it's it's gross. A little bit ofa warning that, what you're

(06:02):
gonna see might be if you're alittle squeamish, it's kind of
yuck.
Similar to, you know, I've donesome videos on parasite
cleanses, and that's a wholeother, other version of yuck.
But I was absolutely mind blownwhat was still in my body,
because I'm a pretty healthyperson. You know? Like, I I I
eat actually overall veryhealthy. I'm really low on, you

(06:22):
know, processed foods.
We eat mostly whole foods. Wehome cook almost everything. No
fast food. No. I I haven't drankalcohol since I think I was 18.
I I stopped drinking alcohol at18, funny enough. Lucky me. So,
anyway, so this show, we'regonna be talking about the
liver, the role of the liver,why the liver has been so
targeted by big pharma, why ifyou're sick, the last thing

(06:46):
they're gonna do is actuallydiagnose that it's your liver
when they can actually say, oh,you're sick because these other
five things are wrong with you.We're gonna give you pills for
each of those five things, whenactually the reason those five
things are all off is becausethe liver itself is not healthy.
So we're gonna be diving deepinto all this.
I think it's gonna be a veryenjoyable, and hopefully a very
enlightening interview. And,before we jump in though, just

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Speaker 2 (09:31):
Well, thank you for everything that you're doing. I
mean, this is, you know, part ofthe great awakening. We've
talked about this golden agethat we're coming into and the
transhumanism agenda and all thenefarious actions that the dark
forces have against us and thatwe're in the middle of this
spiritual warfare. But we alsosay to everybody, look, now is

(09:52):
the time to choose. Now is thetime to wake up and start paying
attention to your own body.
You're either going to preventyourself from becoming a cyborg
or you're going to become acyborg, one of the two. So this
is the path that God has set forus right now, this
transformation that we're goingthrough, which is actually a
really good thing, the higherlevel of consciousness. So there

(10:15):
will be like, it's like comingto a fork in the road and
choosing, I going to go to theright or am I going to go to the
left? I can tell you that withmy involvement with they're
going full speed ahead on thetranshumanism agenda. And it's
not that they even know aboutit, right, because I'm in direct
communication.
Like, Trump doesn't even know.He thinks that his advisors

(10:36):
around him are just like, hey,we gotta be the most
technologically advancedcountry. We gotta have all this
AI. We gotta have all this newfrequency bands out there. And
he's thinking, he's just beingtold, yeah, we have to be this
new technologically advancedcountry.
The US has to be the mostadvanced country in the world,

(10:56):
and he doesn't know, and nobodyin the administration knows that
the main underground you know,that they want to put into play
is this transhumanism agenda andhave everybody connected to the
cloud and have everybodytransitioning into, these half
half human, half cyborgs. It'sjust it's very easy. You just

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listen to Klaus Schwab. Youlisten to Harare. You listen to
Bill Gates.
You listen to all of the biotechcompanies. You look at the
research. You look at thepatents, and you can just
clearly see that this is allabout transformation of
humanity. They want to transformhumanity so they can control
humanity. So our message is justlook, you know, all that all

(11:39):
that nanotechnology, all thatstuff that you're dealing with,
you know, is whether it'schemicals, heavy metals, EMFs,
parasites, whatever, whatever,it's still poisons to the body.
So you don't really have to knowand get into the deep technology
and the learning of like all ofthe stuff that I'm doing, like
how are the hydrogels and thesilks being produced in the body

(12:01):
by the yeast and what'shappening and how it's forming
synthetic red blood cells andthe rectennas and all this other
stuff, because it's justoverwhelming and it's just too
much to learn. Right now it'sjust overwhelming, like I said.
So what everybody needs to focuson is just creating their own
bubble of health and happiness.Stop worrying about what's going

(12:23):
on out here and stop spendingall your time on your social
media platforms looking andwaving your pom poms and
cheering because yellow dye isfinally removed out of food. I
mean, are all just diversions.
Okay? The main mission andstrategy of these elites is to
incorporate these smart cities,this transhumanism agenda upon

(12:47):
humanity, and it's going fullspeed ahead, unfortunately. So
now is the time. It's like,look, forget about all stuff
that's going on. I mean, youknow, look, we've been the
government is not going to doanything to protect you anytime
soon.
Now is the time that you need towake up and start taking care of
your own self. I mean, maybejust loving yourself again. Do

(13:08):
you know that most people lookin the mirror every day and the
first thing they say is, I'moverweight, I'm fat, I don't
look good, I've got wrinkles,I'm losing my hair. They just
cut themselves down every singleday. I mean, we need to start
taking back responsibility forour own health.
Half of the healthcarepractitioners and teachers I go
to these conferences, they'reoverweight and unhealthy.

(13:30):
There's freedom fightingconferences that I go to, the
Patriot conferences, there's5,000 people in the audience. I
look around. I'm like, wait,these are the people that know
the truth. I mean, why are theyall looking thirty, forty, fifty
pounds overweight and lookingsick?
It's time that we actually startpracticing what we preach and

(13:51):
start getting better and startgetting healthy, and it really
comes down to the simplicity ofyou making the right decisions
in your life, you actuallytaking back control of your own
body, your own mind, your ownsoul with prayer, with
meditation, with cleansing thesystem, the temple that God has
given you that has beendisrupted. They've manipulated

(14:13):
the evil energies havemanipulated your mind, got you
brainwashed, manipulated yourbody, manipulated your soul. So
it's this is the great timewhere people need to take back
their own strength, you know?Have faith in God, have faith in
themselves and learn thetechniques that they need to

(14:34):
learn to be able to create thatharmony, that sacred space in
their home, that clean home andthat clean body and that clean
mind and that clean soul. So,yeah, that's it all starts with
look.
If you just know the one thingthat they use to attack
everybody is disinformation,which is biggest weapon ever

(14:57):
used against humanity. Soobviously people listen to you,
so they're getting the truth.And the people that we're
talking to are the ones thatactually want to listen, they
want to grow, they want to helpthemselves, they want to help
their family, not everybody inthe world. We're still a tiny
five you know, 1%, two percentof the world's population, maybe

(15:18):
not even that much. But you knowwhat?
These are the people that arewaking up and these are the
people that care. So if you knowthat they're using all of this
stuff to poison your mind,poison your body, poison your
soul, what's the opposite ofpoisoning? It's just
detoxification, you know,detoxifying everything.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Exactly. Well, one thing I just wanna comment on
quickly is that you youmentioned the Trump
administration, and I thinkthere's a lot of people that
believe that Trump is almost,like, all knowing. Right? That
he's got, you know, access toyou know, through his uncle, he
has a Tesla technology, he's gotProject Looking Glass, and that

(15:58):
he, you know, he sees thefuture, and he's playing 10 d
chess. And and I think it makesa lot of people think, like, oh,
either a, he he knowseverything.
Therefore, he's intentionallydoing really bad things with
this trans transhumanist agenda,or b, he's doing it because it's
part of five d chess, and it'sgonna be used against our
enemies and not us. But what'sinteresting is that a very good
friend of mine, you know, thisis maybe a year or so ago, had a

(16:21):
chance to sit down with Trump,and he spent, like, three hours
in in Trump's office explainingto him the great reset,
transhumanism, who's Harari, allthese things. And he he had
talked to him that day, and hewas really kinda down. I was
like, what's wrong? He goes,look.
Goes, I explained all this stuffto Trump, explained, you know,
why CBDCs are a threat, youknow, the great reset. He goes,

(16:42):
he didn't know hardly any ofthis stuff. Now you could say
maybe Trump is just was fakingit, but you could also say maybe
he's just so busy like a CEO ofa of a giant corporation. He
doesn't know a lot of the insand outs. Right?
So I think that it's you know,regardless of how we look at it,
the key is that we have to takepersonal responsibility. And,

(17:04):
you know, what you talked aboutlast time on the show, MAHA.
Right? Make yourself healthy.Right?
So digging into that, I wannatalk about one of, you know, one
of the things that really stoodout in our last conversations
was the liver cleanse. And itstood out enough that actually I
went and I I I got two livercleanses, one for myself and one
for my wife, and I've got got alittle video of what came out of

(17:26):
me, which I'll show it in alittle bit once we kinda get
into it. It's shocking to saythe least, but of all the
different kinds of cleanses anddetoxes that we can do. Right?
You you see them.
There's a million differentkinds of these things. Why is
the liver cleanse so important?Why is it one of the most
foundational cleanses thatsomebody can do?

Speaker 2 (17:49):
This is something that I really learned and dug
deep in when in '95, actually1995. And remember there wasn't
any internet back then. So thisis when we were part of our root
cause of disease research team.And we were traveling all over
the world and we were lookingand we were evaluating different

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doctors that were having reallygood success with all kinds of
diseases. And these were theunderground doctors, most of
them were cancer doctors becausethat's what our research team
was really looking at wascancer.
But when meet a doctor thatknows how to get rid of, teach
somebody how to get rid ofcancer, those doctors also know
how to get rid of every disease,okay? So cancer's always the

(18:31):
hardest. There's so many layersof working with cancer patients,
emotional and physical andmental and spiritual, it's just
like the cream of the crop. Likeif you can teach somebody how to
eliminate cancer, can teach, Imean everything else is just
easy, easy breezy like heartdisease and diabetes and you
name it, autoimmune disease,etc. So basically what we

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learned from these top doctorsthat were using basically really
good detoxification strategieswas how important the liver was.
And not only that, we learned athow messed up the allopathic
system is because the allopathicsystem still today, the modern
medical system, doesn't have anytesting for the liver, doesn't

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have any testing for the gut,doesn't have any testing for
parasites, and doesn't have anytesting for chemicals and heavy
metals and now let me addNanotech into that category. So
we actually saw so much evidenceand all these doctors would say,
You know what, I was nevertaught about how important the
liver was, but when we startedcleaning the liver, and these

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doctors, by the way, let me justback up, there was just a few of
them, okay? There were 60, backthen there were 60 of us. There
were 60 advanced alternativeoncologists is what we called
ourselves. And then some of themended up dying off but we had a
completely different approachbecause we addressed the root
cause of disease, which wastoxicity, and all of us would

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end up having patients that wereseen by all these other doctors
and all these naturopaths andall these other people come into
our office with bags full ofsupplements.
Some of them were taking twohundred pills a day,
supplements. Now, we wouldalways ask them, You've been

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fighting this. You've been tofive or six different doctors in
the last two or three years, andnow you're coming in with two
hundred supplements that you'retaking every single day. You
know where those supplementshave to be processed, right?
Those supplements have to beprocessed by your liver.
What did all those doctors do toclean your liver first before
they put you on all thosesupplements? And none of them

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had even done a liver cleanse. Italk to people all the time,
they're 40, 50, 60 years old andsay, How many liver cleanses
have you done in your life?None. So the liver, we learned
how important it is.
Holda Clark. That's why HoldaClark that wrote the book, The
Cure for All Cancers, that's whyshe focused just on the liver.
She cured practically everysingle disease known to man,

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including cancer, by doingnothing more than parasite
cleansing and liver cleansing.That's all she would do because
the liver gets contaminatedbecause the liver, first of all,
is on your right side, just togive everybody a little
information, right underneathyour right breast. You have two
lobes in your liver, but eachlobe has segments, so you

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actually have eight segments.
The liver can hold up to 13% ofthe blood supply that's in your
body. It's the largest organ inthe body. It weighs about four
pounds in men and about twopounds, two or three pounds in
women. It's about the size of afootball. Your liver impacts

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every single thing in your body,including brain health.
It's the only thing in your bodythat's actually considered an
organ and a gland, okay? Itcontains fat. It has over 500
vital functions that itperforms. It helps regulate your
hormones. It helps with theblood filtration and

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detoxification, toxin removal,bile production, cholesterol,
breaks down all your proteinsthat you need.
I mean, everybody, you know,people that are deficient in
proteins or, bodybuilders whichend up taking way, way too much
protein in my opinion, and theyend up taking this isolate whey
protein. I've had so many peoplethat that's just ruined their

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guts and ruined their liversover the years. It converts
glucose to glycogen, storesglycogen, breaks down your amino
acids, stores iron, helps withdigestion. It's your first
immune response organ, helps youproduce energy, burn fat,
regulates your metabolism,regulates your thyroid, and you

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know an interesting thing thatwe found, right, like you go
into, and a person will go intothe doctor's office, what does
the doctor do? I'm talkingallopathic, let's just say a
medical doctor's office.
Well, let's just say a naturaldoctor's office too. They're all
trained to do diagnosis, okay?Whether you're in the natural
chiropractic or whether you'rein the allopathic medical,

(23:18):
you're trained to do diagnosis,okay? Patient comes in, you take
a history, you might say, Yeah,they're fatigued, whatever,
whatever, allopathic, you'regoing to get your information
first and then you're going tosay, Okay, let's run some
diagnostics on them. Let's dosome blood work, let's do some
hair analysis, let's do someurine analysis, blah, blah,
blah.

(23:38):
You get all that done. I'll seeyou back in two weeks. You come
back in, you get all the testresults. Okay, Mrs. Smith, it
looks like your T3 is off andyour T4 is off and your
thyroxine is off.
Looks like you're havingproblems with your thyroid. So

(23:58):
we're going to need to work onthat and put you on some thyroid
medications. Or let's say youhave your bond and creatinine
ratio is off or something likethat and they're going to say,
Oh, looks like you're havingsome kidney issues here. We're
going to have to focus on yourkidney. Or you're going to have
your hemoglobin or your whiteblood cells or something like

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that and your blood off and theysay, Oh, well, you're going have
all these issues in your blood.
What we learned is that nothing,any organ, any system, any
tissue in the body doesn't godown until your liver falls

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below 20 to 25% efficiency. Sowhat I'm telling you here is
that everybody is getting itwrong, okay? Thyroid. Well,
guess what? Your liver is incharge of converting your
thyroid hormones, okay?
So is it really your thyroidthat's the problem or is it

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really the liver that's yourproblem? What causes BUN
creatinine ratios to come offalkalinity, acidity issues,
poisons that the liver is not?Is it really a kidney problem or
is it really a liver problem?Well, guess what? It's a liver
problem.
Heart disease, high bloodpressure, is it really a heart

(25:20):
problem or is it really a liverproblem?

Speaker 1 (25:23):
So all of these things root in the liver. Can I
give you

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Roots back to the liver?

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Can I give you

Speaker 2 (25:31):
an analogy? Look at hormone disruption, right? Why
do you think women have reallybad hormone issues around
menopause? Well, their liver hasnever been cleaned in forty to
fifty years, right? Their liveris congested.
Do you think that, whatregulates your hormones? Your
pituitary gland, yourparathyroid? Your liver! Your
liver is what's really, becauseyour liver's a gland. Remember,

(25:54):
it's in the endocrine system aswell as an organ.
So everything goes back, you cantrace everything back to the
liver. So the medical people,they have it all wrong. They're
looking at the symptom andthey're looking at the organ,
but they're not tracing it backto what the root cause of that
issue is. And that's been provenmultiple times with us. I mean,

(26:16):
if you ever go to our and youread all the reviews or you go
to Amazon and read the reviewsof our liver cleanse, we've got
thousands and thousands andthousands of reviews of every
single condition you can imaginebeing wiped out clean with
people doing consecutive livercleanses.
I personally had a case oftwenty eight of a guy that had
four stage cancer, was sent hometo die, given two weeks to live.

(26:40):
He ordered two or three livercleanses, the six day liver
cleanses. He did the first livercleanse, he did the second liver
cleanse, he was supposed to bedead after that because it takes
six days to do and he was stillalive. He ordered like three or
four more. He kept doing livercleanses every single week.
That's all he did. He wasn'teven on natural cancer. Mean, I

(27:01):
would have put him on all kindsof stuff. I didn't even find out
about it until later because hecalled and told us the story.
That's how we found out.
I mean, I would have had him onall kinds of stuff, but that's
all he did. He just did theliver cleanse. He did 28 liver
cleanses, which is about aboutsix months worth, and he went
back in and all of his cancerwas gone. So what I've learned

(27:22):
from all the doctors, I learnedthis a long time ago because the
livers in most people right now,I would say, if I and here's the
thing, the medical professionstill doesn't even have any
testing for the livers. Do wehave 500 tests right now to test
the efficacy of the liver?
No, we have ALT, AST, SGOT,tells you nothing. And that's

(27:44):
been on purpose, okay? Themedical profession does not want
to develop testing and never hasdeveloped testing for gut
health, liver health, parasites,and chemicals in heavy metals
and nanotech. Those are the fourthings that regulate whether or
not you're healthy or whetheryou're diseased. The health of

(28:05):
your gut, the health of yourliver, how many parasites you
have in your body, and how andand how many chemicals, heavy
metals, inorganic minerals, andnanotechnology you have in your
body.
That's it.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
So let me ask a question real quick. Am I
correct in understanding thatmost illnesses or most diseases
are from toxic buildup? Right?In accumulation of poisons in
our body that we're not able toget rid of. The liver is the
main toxin filter and removerfrom the body.
And so if the liver isfunctioning healthily, say, 90%

(28:39):
efficacy, then the rest of thebody stays very healthy and
clean because the the liver isproperly removing toxins,
filtering them, and removingthem. But if the liver gets
backed up with toxins and isonly we're operating at say ten,
twenty percent efficacy, thenit's almost like if you have if
if your main sewage line in yourhouse is backed up, all of
sudden, your toilets startbacking up, and everything else

(29:01):
starts backing up. So then youhave all these other issues from
toxic buildups around the bodyand your blood and different
areas in the body that are alltied into the one toxic remover
being blocked up. But thedoctors go in, and they say, oh,
you've got blood anomalies.You've got this problem.
You've got that problem. It'sI'll tell you a quick joke.
Actually, this is the exactscenario. My dad always told me
a joke growing up. He goes, oh,so a guy goes to the doctor.

(29:23):
He's like, doctor. Doctor, Iheard everywhere. And doctor's
like, really? He goes, okay.Touch your shoulder.
And the guy goes, oh, oh, oh,oh. And he goes, okay. Touch
your head. And he goes, oh, oh,my head. He goes, touch your
knees.
Oh, my knee. And the doctorsays, ah, you've got a broken
finger. Right? So the issue isthat it's like that's the same
thing is that there's they thinkthere's always problems
everywhere, but it's it's thebroken finger. It's it's the

(29:45):
clogged liver.
Is that a correct understanding?

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Everything comes back to the liver, and I'll even go
even further with that. If youlook at the dark forces at work
and how they've manipulatedpeople over the years and
brainwashed people, what havethey developed that is one of
the most damaging things and howit works in the body? If you
look at any prescriptionmedication, alcohol too, I was

(30:09):
just gonna get to that, but ifyou look at any prescription
medication, where is thetoxicity according to every
single, well, half of theclinical trials on
pharmaceuticals are fake andpaid for anyway, but where is
the toxicity of all of thepharmaceuticals happening? Where

(30:30):
is the toxicity of all theNSAIDs, the acetaminophen, the
Tylenol? Is it happening?
You know how many deaths everysingle year happen from liver
failure, from people takingTylenol? A lot. Why did the CIA
with their program in thesixties start wanting to get

(30:50):
every single person addicted toalcohol and sugar? Guess where
alcohol and sugar go that haveto be processed to the liver?
They've been destroying theliver on purpose.
It's the target organ. So ifthey know this, if you destroy
the liver, if they make theliver the target organ, you're

(31:11):
always gonna be sick. And you'realways gonna have some sort of
symptoms and some sort ofdisease, all the bioweapons, all
the sedatives, all of thehormonal drugs, all of all that
stuff, all of the processedfood, the glyphosate, the
insecticides, the pesticides,everything has to go through the

(31:31):
liver to be processed. And rightnow, today, nobody's liver is
even close to being able tohandle the amount of chemicals
and the amount of toxins thatare coming in. You have
recreational drug use that hasto go through the liver.
You have excessive alcoholconsumption, like you said,
which burns the liver. You havethe amount of microplastics now

(31:53):
which are clogging up the liver.The microplastics and the yeast
the flukes and the parasites arethe biggest thing that we're
seeing right now that areclogging up the liver because of
the consumption of alcohol andsugar. And when you get yeast,
especially brewer's yeast in theliver, and it feeds on sugar and
then secretes alcohol as abyproduct, you don't even need

(32:14):
to drink. And that's why you'reseeing all these kids right now
coming down with non alcoholicfatty liver disease.
And the medical community isgoing, Well, what's causing all
this? And it's like, It's theyeast, but they still don't
recognize yeast as a toxin or aparasite, which it is. And so
that's why we have to domultiple liver cleanses and at

(32:38):
the same time do parasitecleanses as well or do them in
conjunction with each other. Andthen you have people that are
eating fried and processed foodsand lots of meat eaters and this
new carnivore diet trend isgoing to work with people for
three or four years, but afterthat it's just going to destroy

(32:58):
the liver and destroy thekidneys and they're going to be
extremely ill because a lot ofthe meat is contaminated and the
body is not necessarily made toconsume only meat. So that's
another issue and that's alsogoing to be stressing the liver
a lot.
So the liver is everything. Imean, we've done, like I said,

(33:21):
we've taken individuals that, wetook a multi faceted study, we
did all the diagnostics on them,we got what their diagnosis
would be, and the normal doctorwould say, Okay, here it is,
you're deficient in calcium,you're deficient in iron, your
thyroid is off, and this, andthen what would they do?
Prescribe them stuff for all ofthese things that show up on the

(33:43):
test. And we said, Hold on asecond, let's go ahead and do a
gut cleanse, a liver cleanse, aparasite cleanse, and a chemical
and heavy metal cleanse, andthen let's retest all these
individuals and see if theystill have all those issues. And
about eighty nine percent of thepeople that we tested just by
doing that, they didn't evenhave any of those symptoms left,

(34:07):
or maybe they had something elsethat didn't show up on the first
one.
So it was like peeling thelayers of an onion back. So what
we have right now,allopathically and naturally
trained doctors are just lookingat the first layer of the
symptoms and they're addressingthe symptoms instead of
addressing the root cause, whichis the toxicity of the liver.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
That makes sense. So I mentioned before that I did
the liver cleanse. Actually, Idid and my wife Kate did. Now
the last time I'd done one livercleanse before, probably ten or
twelve years ago, it was think Ithink his parents' name, Andreas
Moritz or Moritz. I forget hisname.
He was it was a book of of his Icame across about the liver and
and did a cleanse a long timeago. But so we we both recently

(34:51):
did, I think it was a six daycleanse that we got from your
company. And I'll I'll show avideo of what came out, which is
I'll go kinda give a quickwarning. It's kinda gross. But,
in terms of how we felt, like,my wife, she felt a noticeable
difference.
She also felt less frustrated.Like, there's, like, this part
of this this underlying angerthat wasn't there anymore, which

(35:13):
I know is oftentimes you know,the Chinese is so Chinese
medicine, they look at the liveras being, where the emotion
anger, is is rooted. And so butbut just overall, it was just
feeling much better. Like, mycravings reduced. I just felt
cleaner.
But I will pull up here. I tooka a video of what actually came
out from my liver cleanse, and Iwas shocked. Now, just a quick

(35:36):
warning, if you're squeamish,you may not wanna look, or if
you're eating chicken nuggets,don't look, or if you're eating
falafel, don't look. But so thisis this is what came out. That's
a penny, alright, for for scale,and these just were, like, some
some of the things that I I kindof accumulated, I guess, you
could say.
So what what are we looking at?Like, what what is this? Where

(36:02):
did that come from? How was thatstuff in my body, without me
even knowing? I mean, this tome, I was shocked at this, but
I'm sure you you this is not athis isn't your first rodeo.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
No. This is I mean, we used to call them liver
stones. They're not necessarilystones, although they do have
inorganic minerals in them. So Iguess you could say that, you
know, they're made up of littletiny stones. But you have stones
that form in your liver and youhave stones that form in your
gallbladder.
So some of those might have beendumped from the gallbladder,
some of those might have beendumped from the liver. And those

(36:37):
are the purpose of the Epsomsalts, which kind of relax the
tissue and the purpose of theleading up over the first five
days, what you're doing isyou're stimulating the liver
with a specific type of liverherbs, the milk thistle and all
the other ones that we Turmericand Turmeric. You're just
preparing the liver andloosening it up to where it can
then you come in with the Epsomsalts and then you come in with

(36:59):
the olive oil. And when youdrink the olive oil in that
amount, it goes directly intoyour liver as just a big fat and
it absorbs all of the chemicals,toxins. The liver kind of
contracts a little bit and kindof pushes those things out and
it forms these little balls orthese little stones of just all

(37:24):
the toxic buildup and the toxicresidue, and then you push it
out.
The next morning it goes in andit dumps it into your bowel and
then you push it out. Then ifyou have a colander there, like
we recommend sometimes if youwant to see what's going on, and
then you rinse it all off andthen you get those little balls
out. You can send those out foranalysis too and you can see

(37:44):
what was in there and what cameout of you, but usually it's
going to be just metals andtoxins and microplastics and all
the stuff that you havecongested in your liver. So what
we found by doing kind of ananalysis of all the liver
cleanses that we've done overthe years, I used to just
recommend someone do one livercleanse a year, one liver

(38:05):
cleanse every six months, butthen as we started getting more
data, because we've got a lot ofdata after doing, you know, I
think three million livercleanses or something in the
last twenty something years, Ithink we have probably the most
data on liver cleanses thananybody in the world, is that
when we started looking at allresults and started organizing
it all, this was a few yearsback, probably like six or seven

(38:29):
years ago, we were like, I don'tthink one liver cleanse is
enough, because we were lookingat all the data and then we were
seeing what transpired.
Was somebody doing three livercleanses versus six liver
cleanses? And then peoplestarted getting better and
better, and so we kind of cameup with this theory that one
liver cleanse is going to clean,that everybody just assume that

(38:51):
if you have any symptom, ifyou're suffering from headaches,
if you're suffering from highblood pressure, if you're
suffering from gout, I mean, itdoesn't matter what you're
suffering from, if you have anynegative health condition. Even
fatigue, if you don't haveenergy, if you have a hard time
losing weight, because remember,weight loss, everybody talks
about, Oh, let me take thisweight loss product. The liver

(39:11):
is in charge of metabolizingyour fat. When you clean the
liver a couple times, gonnastart your your metabolism's
gonna kick into gear.
The best thing you can do forweight loss, for fat loss, is
liver cleansing. It's amazing.The fat will just start coming
off.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Actually, I noticed that too. That after the third
liver cleanse. Yeah. Like, I'vebeen surprised at how my
weight's been just not like it'snot, you know, kind of massive,
but it's just it's steadilydropping through my my normal
you know, I I eat healthy. Youknow, you know, we, you know, we
have our indulgence insometimes, of course, but, you
know, I'm not out eatingMcDonald's every day.
Right? We eat almost allorganic, and we're very clean

(39:48):
with our eating. But I'venoticed that even my my weight,
like, typically, it's almostlike I either have to be really
strict with my diet, and thenI'll start kinda slowly creeping
down. But this was just mynormal kind of way of life. My
body's slowly getting back tothat healthy baseline weight,
and and which it makes sensethat it was it was very tied
into the the liver cleanse.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Well, absolutely. I'm glad you noticed that because
that's kind of what we, when wegathered our data, that's what
we noticed. And we were like,and then I was, then I said,
well, that would mean, accordingto this, that pretty much
everybody on the planet rightnow, their liver is only
functioning around 20%. And Isaid, let's like how much a

(40:33):
liver cleanse actually repairsthe liver. Now, somebody that
might just take a product fromthe shelf of a store and just
like it's a liver cleanse or aliver health product, that's
probably only, you you takethat, the whole product, and
maybe you get a 1% change inyour liver.
Doing this, see this is notjust, I didn't invent this liver

(40:56):
cleanse. The one that we have isa modification or an upgrade
from the Hold the Clark systemwhere she did this on hundreds
of thousands of people back inthe 1980s and 1990s. So this has
been going on for a long time,so there's a lot of
documentation and a lot ofresearch on how effective this
can be. But no one's reallygathered the data and said,

(41:18):
okay, so what are you gettingout of a liver cleanse? So we
came up with just a theory, eachliver cleanse is going to clean
about 15% of your liver.
So if the population right nowis, let's just say, population
twenty percent, your liver isfunctioning at 20%, and you need

(41:38):
the liver functioning above 80%to not have any symptoms, okay?

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Four

Speaker 2 (41:43):
cleanses, So you need one cleanse is going to take it
to 35%, the next cleanse isgoing to take it to 50%, next
cleanse sixty five percent, nextcleanse is going to take it to
eighty percent. So everybodyreally needs to be doing four to
five liver cleanses and thenthey need to do a liver cleanse

(42:04):
once a month, in my opinion, tokeep everything, especially
right now because of all thechemicals and toxins and
nanotechnology that we have,it's vitally important to just
be keeping your liver as cleanas possible and keeping the
parasites out of your body. Andthen it's also really important
if you can do this because youwill get a better, so let's just

(42:26):
say one liver cleanse cleansabout 15% of your liver. You can
get that up to about 18 or 20%if you're sweating for twenty
minutes a day because what'shappening is you're sweating out
a lot of those toxins that yourliver doesn't have to deal with.
As a matter of fact, it'sextremely important for
everybody to be sweating 20 aday, fifteen to twenty minutes a
day.

(42:46):
So if you don't have a sauna ora maid for that matter, can just
put on some clothes, two orthree layers of clothes, put on
one of those suits, thosesweatsuits and just sweat for
ten or fifteen minutes a daybecause the secondary organ to
your liver that detoxifies yourbody is your skin. So the skin
and the liver, if you if you cantake half the load off your

(43:09):
liver, you can definitely takehalf the load off your liver by
sweating twenty minutes a day.Does incredible things for you.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Actually, our our next purchase, I think, is gonna
be an infrared sauna. Like that.And it was it was the the re
because I I was kinda debatingbetween actually building a
traditional sauna, like aFinnish style sauna, or getting
an infrared. And it was I was ona Twitter spaces with you on,
the clear skies in kind of thechemtrail group. And we were

(43:41):
talking, and and you talkedabout how one of the most
important, ways of detoxing wasactually through sweating.
And it was like, oh, okay. Itwas just a reminder of, like,
okay. I need to make sure we getthat sauna because we've got you
know, we're building our ownlittle health studio. Right?
We've got I've got a cold plungeI'm setting up.
We've got red light. We've got,we're doing infrared sauna. So

(44:01):
we're kinda setting up all ofour little, you know, our own
home health system. And sothat's that's the next one. It's
gonna be, you know, sauna forsweating.
And I talked to, doctor Group. Isay, hey. What do you think
about between, traditional saunaand infrared? And he goes, well,
he goes, I actually think theinfrared is gonna get deeper,
which is what we need. Like, asas as the technology to poison
us has advanced from what it wasa couple hundred years ago, the

(44:23):
technology we're using to tosweat and remove these toxins,
you know, it's it's not a badthing for that to also be
advancing.
So he'd recommended infrared. Sothat's that's one of our next
things I think we're gonna bedoing.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Did he talk to you about Brian's sauna. Space?

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Yeah. Yeah. The sauna. Yes.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
The sauna. Space has the original lights from
Kellogg. So Harvey Kellogg, backin the nineteen hundreds, who
had the biggest health naturalhealth sanitarium in the world
in up in Michigan, there'sactually a movie written about
it with Anthony Hopkins calledThe Road to Wellbill. Of course,
they made it look like it was abig quack ery thing, you know,

(45:01):
because they had to like, theycouldn't give, you know, let
anyone know that anybody, anyonewas getting healed there, so
they actually like had somebodydie there. Mean, but anyway, he
had one of the most successfulnatural healing center in the
world and it was humongous.
They had 3,000 rooms and Kelloggdeveloped a red light that was

(45:22):
very effective. So what he wouldhave people do is eat the
different colors of fruits andvegetables and then he would
have them go under the light.Basically, it was photodynamic
therapy. He would have them goout in sunlight and soak up the
sun and it would activate allthe porphyrins, the plant
porphyrins and it would healpeople. So Brian at sauna.

(45:42):
Space, no one has been able toreplicate because they destroyed
the whole, the medical,Rockefeller medicine and
allopathic medicine destroyedall the natural healing centers
and all the natural springs andall

Speaker 3 (45:55):
that

Speaker 2 (45:55):
stuff in the last hundred years. But there were of
the lights, and Kellogg had aspecific wavelength and he put a
specific pigment actually in theglass. And that's what Brian's
been able to do. He's been ableto replicate Kellogg's system,
Kellogg wrote a great book, bythe way, if anyone's interested.

(46:17):
It's called Light Therapeutics.
I think it came out in like 1905or 1910, and it's really
interesting and it shows that hewas able to actually cure the
majority of all illness anddisease with red light and
photodynamic therapy, but theywere also doing gut cleansing,
they were also doing livercleansing, they were also doing
parasite cleansing. I mean, samething. It's just like if all

(46:40):
you're doing is just getting ridof the toxins in your body that
are congesting you and keepingyou sick and keeping you down
mentally, physically, andspiritually.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Interesting. I'll look into that. Kellogg. Okay.
I'll look into that.
I wanna so touching back on theliver cleanse. So so looking at
this, which is which wasshocking to think that this is
only, like, you know, 15%improvement. Like, okay. Well, I
I gotta get my next one. I dowanna pull up just before we go
any further.
I wanna pull up your website,globalhealing.com. I'll put this
exact link in the description.There's also a discount code

(47:11):
Seth, s e t h. People will get adiscount on this. And it's, you
know, it's a $100 one timepurchase.
I mean, it was it was the mosteffective $100 I've I've ever
spent on my health. I can saythat. Absolute. And, actually, I
remember too that my wife, Kate,she was still dealing with a lot
of, like, the postpartumtiredness and everything, and
what it felt like for her is itwas all that was gone. It was

(47:32):
like that something maybe a lotof the toxins that she absorbed
in the process of trying to, youknow, kinda help the baby and
give her clean breast milk andeverything had it increases, you
know, increased her her buildup,and a lot of that that fatigue
was gone.
So I was surprised though atwhen we did we did this process
that so how it works in my ownkind of description of it is

(47:52):
that, I think it was, like, thefirst five days, you're just
taking this this, oil mixture,like, the way you're drinking. I
I actually enjoyed the taste ofit. It was more of a turmeric
taste with, you know, we do alot of herbal tinctures and
stuff, so it felt just likethat. And so walk walk us
through the specifics of, like,how this actually you start too

(48:14):
early, but kind of, like, whatthe exact liver cleanse looks
like and and how it functions.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
So it's designed basically to because there's a
diet aspect that's involved init too. So it's basically, know,
specifically custom designed tofocus on your mental state
because you're eating clean foodfor the day, you're eating
organic foods, you're eatinglots of fruits, and the

(48:47):
supplement, which is designed toa few different things. Number
one, to stimulate the cells inthe liver to regenerate. Number
two, to help the cells push outany toxins, and this is why
you're doing the liver healthformula with the turmeric every

(49:09):
single day until the last day.The liver health is what has all
of the, not only just livercleansing herbs, but liver
stimulating herbs, and that'sgoing to work on the
hepatocytes.
Those are the cells that are inyour liver. They're called
hepatocytes. And the beautifulthing about the liver is it
actually regenerates every 90days. It's one of the only

(49:32):
organs that regenerates. Sobasically you're doing, the
flush is gonna be on day six,but you're doing like a pre
flush.
So what you're, you're justkeeping your meals very light
because the more that you eat,the more food that you have to
digest, the more that the liverhas to work. So what we're
really trying to do is cut theworkload down for the liver, and

(49:54):
the liver barely even has towork when you eat fruit. So most
of the fruit is just is mostlywater, right? It's like 95%
water. So when you're eatingfruit, you're getting oxygen,
you're getting antioxidants,you're getting water in a
distilled form and then you'regetting living nutrients, you're

(50:16):
getting organic vitamins andminerals and you're getting
organic living fiber.
So fruit, and actually anyliving food, almost bypasses the
liver completely because it's sogood. It's fully in the
digestive tract. So that's whywe have people do the first five
days on just fruit and lightmeals, and then we have before

(50:41):
on day six where you're takingthe Epsom salts, and the Epsom
salts are just relaxants.They're just relaxing all the
muscles. And then with the oliveoil, that goes directly into the
liver and starts soaking up allthe chemicals and toxins.
Back to the original five dayswith the LIVITREX, what we're
really doing is we're juststimulating the liver, we're

(51:01):
stimulating the hepatocytes,we're already stimulating the
phase one detoxificationpathway, we're stimulating the
phase two detoxificationpathway, we're giving the
hepatocytes the nutrients thatthey need to regenerate and that
was specifically designed tofocus on all of those different
aspects of the cells within theliver. We also have some things

(51:25):
in there that are going toreduce inflammation, like the
turmeric, for example. Mostlivers are chronically inflamed.
Why are they chronicallyinflamed? Because they contain
yeast and they contain flukes.
And the flukes of the yeast willtake nutrients and then they'll
secrete isopropyl alcohol.That's a byproduct. They go to
the bathroom in your liver andthey secrete formaldehyde. So

(51:48):
you have all these differentchemicals in there. So some of
the, and that just causesinflammation, right?
I mean, put out, you know, youcontinually irritate something.
I mean, the liver is just, Iactually feel really sorry for
the liver because it's just, Imean, just think of someone was
just pouring chemicals on youall day long, every single day,

(52:08):
and you're like, forcing them inyour mouth and you're like
going, No, I don't want itanymore. I'm just trying to spit
them out. It's like, Get off me!And they just keep pouring and
spraying on you.
And, you know, that's what theliver has to go through pretty
much every single day. It's justlike the liver's going, No,
don't eat that, don't eat that,no, don't drink that, don't
drink that. And it's just like,Oh gosh, here I go. I'm gonna
have to like work overtime totry to get this stuff out of my

(52:30):
system. And so it's like, it'salmost like loving your liver.
We need to go back and just say,Oh my gosh, I love my liver. I
want to support my liver. Youknow, that's the way that we
should be doing supporting theliver like with, you know,
there's really good foods forthe liver. Garlic is really good

(52:52):
for the liver. Kiwi, onions isgood for the liver, cauliflower,
cabbage, brussels sprouts.
Apples are amazing for theliver. You people, you can drink
organic apple cider vinegar,that's gonna be something good
for the liver. Artichokes,asparagus, avocados, beets,
broccoli. Figs, believe it ornot, the ancient Greeks and

(53:16):
still today, they alwaysincorporate figs in their diet
for keeping the liver clean. Butultimately, it's like when you
understand that bombarding yourliver with all of these
chemicals and all these toxins,do you really need to ask the
question like, do I want tocontinue doing liver cleansing
all the time?
Or what about if I just stopeating and stop poisoning

(53:41):
myself? Let's just address theroot cause of why the liver is
congested. And that meanschanging your diet, eliminating
some of the chemicals,eliminating all toxins from your
diet.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
The alcohol.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Eliminating alcohol or at least going to the
ninetyten rule or theeightytwenty rule. Drinking more
water, distilled water is one ofthe best things in the world
that you can drink to take careof the liver. It just it because
it grabs all of those inorganicminerals and all those chemicals
and all those toxins and helpsyour liver flush all those out.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Makes perfect sense. So kind of wrapping up, I wanna
pull up you mentioned, liverflukes, and and I wanna pull up
just a quick image of of those.So because I I've seen EZ4
because I've done I've done, youknow, parasite cleanses, and and
these are these are frightening.So these are, things that live.
You see them a lot in cattle andsheep and every in animals, but

(54:40):
these are also inside of us.
Right? So does the cleanse, getrid of these? Like, is that part
of the process?

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Well, the cleanse is not, this is why we need to do a
parasite cleanse too. I mean, Iwould say that you might get rid
of some of those things becauseyou do have the yellow dock
which is in the liver healthformula. You do have the reishi
mushroom, you do have the gingerin there, you have the
peppermint in there, you havethe dandelion in there. So you

(55:11):
might get a little bit of thoseflukes pushed out, but that's
why it's always recommended thatwe clean the junk out of the
liver and flush it out with theliver cleanse, and then come
back with a parasite cleanse orusing a parasite cleanse at the
same time that you're doing theliver.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
That makes sense. Well, we'll have to do it on
another show.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Do it hand in hand, you know, so you want to make
sure. And that was Holda Clark'sbig thing. She said basically
that at least 98 of all cancerswere caused by a congested liver
and every single one of thosehad a massive amount of
parasites and flukes, and that'swhy her program was liver
cleansing and parasitecleansing. That's pretty much

(55:56):
all she did, liver cleansing,parasite cleansing. And that's
been very effective and I candefinitely say that in my
research, I would say that Iwould concur because we spent
the last thirty years verifyingher research, that the majority
of all disease, includingcancer, is nothing more than

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congestion of the liver,toxicity, and parasites.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
And so going back to your website here, so under the
clean cleanse and detox pageunder shop, so you've got the
liver cleanse right here, whichwe just went over. You've got
the is the parasite is that justthe harm harmful or harmful

Speaker 2 (56:37):
The harmful Organism Cleanse is the Parasite Cleanse
Program because we got nailed bythe FDA a few years ago, and
they said, we're now banning theword parasite, so you cannot you
can no longer use the wordparasite. So we had to change it
to harmful organism.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Crazy. Yeah. So so we'll do we'll do another show
on parasites specifically, whichI've I've got tons of questions
on that. But just as we'rewrapping up, so
globalhealing.com, the livercleanse. I'll put the link in
the description.
There's a discount with promocode Seth. I can speak from my
own experience. As I mentioned,it was probably the best $100
I've ever spent on my ownhealth. I've done, you know,

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done a lot of different things,but absolutely amazing. I was
shocked at what came out, but italso makes me think, okay.
That was only 15%, so on to thenext one. Doctor Group, any,
closing thoughts as we're we'rewrapping up here?

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Just want to thank everybody for joining us today
and just know that your body isthe most powerful medicine. You
have a self healing mechanism inyour body that's stronger than
anything any allopathic or whitecoat doctor can do to you. And
I'll reassure everybody of thepower that they have within

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through God's temple. We havepoisoned God's temple. We have
poisoned God's mind, God's body,and God's soul, and we have done
it because of the manipulationof the mind.
So now is the time to just takeyour power back. It's all about
love. Know, loving yourself andkeeping your body clean and
keeping your body healthy andprotecting yourself and your

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family for the future andkeeping your home clean too and
cleaning up everything andavoiding all the chemicals and
the toxins and just living agood life, know, just balance
out your life, your relationshiplife, your relationship with
yourself, relationship with God,your relationship with your work
individuals, your relationshipwith your significant other, and

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just know that, you know,everybody has the power to
transform themselves to the nextlevel of enlightenment.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
There we go. Exactly. Make yourself healthy again.
Yeah. Doctor Group, thank youagain.
It's it's so great speaking toyou. I can't wait to, do this
again, and, we'll certainly keepin shut in touch. So thank you
for everything that you've done,and thank you for giving us your
time today.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
Thank you, Seth. Appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
I hope you enjoyed the interview. I've now got
another short, a ten, fifteenminute interview with a guy
named Art Feisenmeyer, who is aformer FBI, agent that is
warning about one of the mostinsidious ways that thieves are
stealing from us. So pleaseenjoy this short interview with
Art. Art, it's great to have youon the show. Thank you so much
for joining us today.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Thank you for having me. I love opportunities to tell
people about what I do and whatI represent here.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
It's it's it's perfect. And so just getting
into a little bit of yourbackground, which I'll kind of
frame our discussion. So you'reyou were former FBI, and
something that you are hyperfamiliar with is the theft of
home titles. And so I guess I'llhand it to you. Explain that to
me because before I had heardabout this, you know, I'm a

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homeowner.
I've owned home homes before.You know, I've got various
insurances and stuff like that,but I never thought what happens
if someone steals my title.Like, it sounds kinda strange.
Like, what? They they walk inthe title office with a, you
know, like a fake ID or Exactly.
So so what is this, and and andwhat does this mean?

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
And when I first start talking to people, and
this is our first time with you,I usually do something. I call
it the home title lock pop quiz.Three questions. One, do you
know what your title looks like?And people give me this.
Last day I'd stare. And numbertwo, when was the last time you

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saw your title? Last day, I'dstare. Once in while, I'll say,
oh, I think when I was closing,it might have been in those 300
pages that I initialed and datedtwelve years ago. And then the
the key question is, do you knowwhere your title is right now?
And they say, well, I don'tknow. A file somewhere in my,

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you know, garage. The the realanswer is your file is a public
document, and it's your title ison file in your county
recorder's office where theproperty is located. And that
being a public document meansanybody can go get a copy. So if
anybody really you know, the badguys know they answer all three

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of those questions.
They know what your title lookslike and and where it is and
exactly where to find it. And ifand the real deal here is they
can get a copy of it and use itto create by forgery, usually
with a false, identity, create anew title and file that in your
county recorder's office. And sowhen somebody goes there,

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they're going to see who the newowner is, not you. And the new
owner, as soon as that's filedfor 30 or $40, it's probably a
lot less than that in someplaces, they'll use that as the,
basis to take out loans againstthe equity in your house. They
don't go for 50 or $100.

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They go for 400,000, 500,000.You know, in this day and age,
everybody's got so much equityin their house. I mean, I live
in California, and the equity inhomes out here is obscene, quite
frankly. But, you know, if allof a sudden you've got a, you
know, another 5 or $600,000mortgage on your house that you
weren't aware of, your life willget very, very complicated very

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quickly. The real deal for ahomeowner on this front, Seth,
is to find out before that firstcheck is negotiated because that
money will be offshore beforethe ink is dry.
And the guys who got that 5 or$600,000 will be on an island

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with white sandy beaches andthose little drinks with the
umbrellas in them. And you'regonna be hiring an $800 an hour
attorney to take you down to thecourthouse to get a judge to
rule that your house belongs toyou. That can take a couple of
years. And believe me, at $800an hour, it can be a really ugly
couple of years and andsometimes a lot longer because

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these are civil matters. And yougo to the police, and they'll
say, you know, where's themoney?
Or, you know, I don't know. Whotook it? Well, I don't know. And
what's going on? Well, themortgage company's knocked on my
door, and they tell me that Ihaven't paid on the mortgage.
And so they're gonna take me tocourt, and they're ask the judge
to give them permission to sellmy house. They don't want your

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house. They want get their moneyback, and that's called
foreclosure. That's a reallyugly scenario you don't wanna
have on your credit record ever,quite frankly. But that's what
happens.
And so I, you know, and I'vebeen doing this, like I said
earlier, for about nine years,more than. And, early on when I
started with the company, I hada gentleman call me, he said,

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somebody has forged my title,and they've taken out back back
then, I think it's $300,000loan, which is a lot of money
back then. Still is today, quitefrankly. And he he said the
mortgage company is, you know,knocked on my door, and they're
gonna evict me because they'regonna get the judge to say that

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that I have the right to sell myhouse. So so I've had to fight
it in court.
And can you help me? And I said,no. I I think you're doing all
the right things. I could havehelped you before and told you
this was going to happen andstopped it. Because we have what
we call the million dollartriple lock protection at home
title lock.
I have to get the home titlelock here. That's why I'm here.
So the million dollar homeprotection package, it it we

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have software. It's ours. Webuilt it.
It does only one thing. Itmonitors your title in a
national database twenty fourseven. And you don't have to
wait for somebody to get to workin the morning. The software
notifies you and sends you acopy of the document if
something disturbs your title.And if you don't recognize that

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document, then the softwaretells you if you don't recognize
the doc and they send you a copyof the document.
If you don't recognize thisdocument, you should call us
right away. And then our staff,I think we call our restoration
staff, these people will swinginto action to make sure that
all the activity against yourtitle is stopped and that your

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title is maintained in yourname. We'll spend up to
literally a million dollars ofour money to make you whole
again. And listen. This is forpennies today, quite frankly,
why people don't jump in linealready to do this.
It makes me wonder. Because whenI saw this company, they
approached me in 2017. I lookedat it I went, my god. I'm in big

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trouble if somebody comes aftermy house. And so they asked me
to endorse, and I said, I don'twanna just endorse.
I wanna make people aware of thefact that they're so vulnerable
right now as they sit at homewatching the late night TV that
somebody could steal their housetonight, change the name, file
it tomorrow, and take out a loanwithin, you know, forty eight,

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seventy two hours, somethinglike that. And if that happens,
you're gonna be on a legal,financial, and emotional
nightmare that'll last for along, long time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
And so

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
So you got to stop it first.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
How how common is this? Is this something that
that the FBI is seeing? I mean,is it seems like if you look at
the the scammers and, you know,they're they're they're smart
people. Right? They're peoplethat are often as highly
intelligent, yet they're lackingthis thing called morality.
Right? Which is where you thiskind of compass that says, hey.
I shouldn't kill that guy andsteal his sandwich because I'm

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hungry. Right? It's not a goodthing to do.
They don't really have that. Sothey're thinking, okay. Who
cares? So it seems almost tooeasy. I'd imagine that this is
somewhat common.
Right? Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
Well, Seth, here here's the here's the issue and
and, you know, establishing dataabout it. Number one, there is
no law, no statute that I'maware of anywhere, except maybe
in New York State, I don't thinkthey're either, that it's called
title fraud or defraud. There'sno such law or statute. So when

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somebody is defrauded like this,and it can be a family member as
well as just a cyber thief, Thethe charges brought against are
usually forgery or larceny orfederally bank fraud, wire
fraud, mail fraud. And so youhave to be able to call those
out.
You know? And I forget the thenumbers. Hundreds of thousands

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of bank fraud filings, criminalfilings last year alone. And but
the problem is you have to callthrough each one because there's
there's no way of determininguntil you look at the details in
each one. But I can tell youthis from my experience, it
happens all the time.
And here's you know, one of mymy, compatriots said this. He

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was talking with somebody, andthey said, you know, why why on
earth would they do this? And helooked at him and he says,
because that's where the moneyis. And this is where the big
money is. People don't have tosteal a credit card number.
You know, the the credit cardcompanies have these data, you

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know, I'm trying to think of theword that that they use,
algorithms that watch everythingfor you. And if there's a, you
know, an abnormality in thealgorithm, they notify you, and
they do it, you know, when it'sjust a few dollars. I just got
my credit card changed for$54.95. I saw a problem. So but

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nobody watches your title excepthometitlelock.com.
I mean, we are the best at this.I I pretty sure we're the
biggest at it. And we have thebest imaginable staff looking
after your interest once it'sdetermined that you've been a

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victim. And then and, again, toeverybody else at home, you
gotta get it right away. Yougotta get it before that first
check clears because otherwise,then you are gonna be a basket
case for two or three years.
So it's it's kinda like titlelike that now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
So it's like, there's a lot of companies that do this
for your Social Security number.Right? That Yeah. If someone
steals you know, which you yousee almost every day, a new data
leak, you know, password, SocialSecurity numbers, etcetera.
Yeah.
So someone then forged myidentity, and they went and they
got a credit card, or theybought a new car or whatever it
was. There's companies thatmonitor that. And they say, hey.

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Did you just apply for this? Andit's like, I didn't just apply
for a, you know, a a newCorvette.
Of course not. Right? So, but,you know, I can't think of a
single expense someone couldcharge to my credit report that
would even come close to ifsomeone took a $400,000 loan out
against my house that I own. Soit seems like it's you know, the

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scale is huge. And so,basically, what so what Home
Title Lock does is really whatwhat you're kinda signing up for
there is just the security ofknowing that there's a team.
They've got an algorithm. Ifanybody does anything to your
title, instantly, you know. Sobefore they can take that new
title in their name and starttaking out loans or whatever
they're doing with it, As soonas that first change happens,

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you're notified. Your company,Home Tile Lock, is is notified,
and you can basically stop itbefore anything happens.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
I mean, people will often say, will I be notified?
Well, when you file a new titleor or a new deed in most of the
forms that I've seen throughoutThe United States in the county
recorder's office, and that'swhere it all goes, there's a
block in the upper left handcorner on the front page of the
document. They tell you to putin the location, the address

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where you want any notificationssent. Well, guess what, folks?
They're gonna put your name inthere.
They're gonna put theirs in somemail drop somewhere that'll get
thrown in the trash after ninetydays because they aren't gonna
pay that bill either. So you'vegot to pay attention to the
details. And if you sit thereand think, well, you know, I'll
hear about it. Well, I have somebad news. Wait.

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You probably won't hear about ituntil somebody's knocking on
your front door saying, we'regonna we're gonna take your
house and sell it so we can getour money back. And it just
it'll come out of a a bolt oflightning out of the sky like
that, and it will just destroyyour life. I mean, it just I've
I've seen been involved actuallyin one instance where it was as

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a woman who inherited the housefrom her parents was, defrauded
in a a deed fraud scam, and shemissed a bunch of stop signs.
She wasn't paying attention to,you know, not getting a water
bill and a tax bill. And thesheriff showed up at her front
door with a an order to she'sbeing evicted.

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And so all of her possessionswere put in those big, huge,
black plastic bags and put outat the curb. She was literally
thrown out of her house. She ittook seven months for her to get
back into her house. And at onepoint, she was homeless living
across the street in a park fromher house so she could see the
house. It was actually hers.

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Finally, she got into court, andthe judge said that house
assistant, she got back into it.Hers was done by, because she
was not a a person of of wealth,but, you know, a a little a
legal aid group came to her herhelp, her assistance, and got
the, you know, the property backin her name, but it took seven

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months. And and if you have thishappen to you, you're gonna have
to get an attorney. And realestate law, quite frankly, as I
found out, is very complicated.I mean, I was involved in a case
here in California that went allthe way back to the Spanish land
grants of the sixteen hundreds.
I mean and so the attorneysreally have to know what they're

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talking about and make sure theycross the t's and dot the i's
for you. So when you get intothis thing and go to court and
you're being accused of probablytrying to steal the money and
just not gonna pay the mortgage.I've got some bad news for you.
It doesn't work out very well inyour favor. And if somebody else

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is doing it, you know, they'regonna want writing exemplars,
polygraphs, all that stuff.
It costs a lot of money, by theway. So when you get into that
part of the whole transaction,it's just a nightmare that you
you just you may never reallyget out from under it, quite
frankly. I mean, the real answeris don't go there. And the

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answer is if somebody's gonnatell you that you got a problem
before it becomes a lawsuit, andthat's what you need to do.
Hometitlelock.com.
We have million dollar triplelock protection. Perfect timing
there. And that's what you get.And it's you know, and I was
looking at this the other day. II think it's about 65¢ a day or

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something like that if you getthe annual plan.
And I was thinking, what can Igo into a store in this day and
age and buy for 65¢? I couldn'tthink anything. And then someone
said to get a piece of gummy. Isaid, you can't do that anymore.
You don't have to buy a 12 packor a 10 pack or, you know, two
packages, you know, wrappedtogether.

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I said, so to find somethingthat's worth 65¢, I said, you
know, if you just just don't getone of your drive through custom
coffees once one day a week,just skip one of those drive
through designer coffees. Youknow what? You'll have more than
enough, probably a lot more thanenough to pay for this

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protection that is so key toyour well-being. Look. Most
people are watching this rightnow.
Most of their personal wealth istied up, and the equity of their
home is is for me and I'm sureprobably you. So, you know,
don't leave that sitting outthere. It's like putting a bag
full of $100 bill right on thecurb and saying, I gee, I hope

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it's gonna be there in themorning because that's what
you've got looking at you rightnow. And with home time lock,
we'll let you know something'sgoing on way before you get into
trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Also, I think that we have a a promo code Seth, s e t
h, where they'll get a freetitle search. Is that correct?
That where if someone wants toknow if their title's safe to to
that it's it's a free search.Right? You'll get a copy of

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
your title and and a history of title if it's
available. Sometimes we can't wecan't get all the depth of the
documents, but you'll get a copyof your title. You know, those
are pretty nice documents tohave around the house quite
frankly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
And so then when the next time I see you and we do
this and I give you my hometitle lock pop quiz, you can
give me some answers.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Exactly. I'll I'll pass the test.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
To you. Thanks to you. Your viewers will know
what's going on, and they'llsleep better that night too.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
You know, don't don't kid yourself. This does happen.
That's you know, I could tellstories for Anna for the next
hour, quite frankly. I mean,it's like somebody pointed this
out to me. You know, if you havea fire at your house, it's
devastating.
But the fire department showsup, the police show up, and
everybody else shows up, andthere's a clear record of what's

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happened there. And it but thebut the loss is devastating. If
your neighbor next door had histitle forged and lost control of
his house. Maybe he even gotevicted from his house because
he wasn't aware of what's goingon. But if wouldn't it have been
nice if the guy had the fire gota, email the night before from

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the fire department and said,look.
That towel on the counter inyour kitchen is gonna catch fire
and start a grease fire, burnyour house down. Well, that's
not gonna happen. It justdoesn't happen. It's not
possible. But if you have hometitle lock, you'll get an email
the night before saying,something's wrong with your
title.
You better get a hold of usright away, and we'll fix it for

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you. And that's the differencebetween, you know, having to
control over your personalwealth. And that's what your
house is. It's your personalwealth. Don't don't fool around
with it.
Spend a cup a cup of coffee'sworth of money every day. You
know, I said to some people, Isaid, you know, when you get

(01:17:35):
when you get done at the end ofthe year, if you skip that
designer coffee, you probablyhave enough for a tank of gas.
And then I think, not inCalifornia. In most states, but
out here, you you might get aquarter of a tank.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
Exactly. Exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
But it's it's that easy, and it's that simple. And
believe me, when you startdealing with our folks I mean, I
was just talking with somebodybefore yesterday. He said he
sold his house. And he said, youknow, the, when I put it on the
market, the realtor, you know,placed a a a document in my

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title file at the countyrecorder's office, and you
called me and said, you got aproblem. And I said, no.
It's it's not a problem. Myhouse is being listed, and the
the realtors essentially, it's akind of a lien that they protect
themselves with. And he said,you know what? He said, we sold
it. And the new person filed thetitle.

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He said, I got another call fromyou and your software saying
title's changed. And if youdon't recognize it, call us
right away. And he said, since Iknew what it was, I paid no
attention. He said, two dayslater, Home Title Lot called me
and said, we haven't heard fromyou about that title change. And
so he said, it was really nice,and I informed her that it was

(01:18:57):
for me.
And and I was aware that I hadsold my house, and I was a new
owner. He said, two days afterthat, I got another call from
Home Title Lock. They said, ifyou're gonna get a new house, be
sure to get Home Time Lock. Andthat that's the kind of quality
that people You know what I tellpeople? I can absolutely
guarantee the quality thesepeople because I do all the

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backgrounds on everyone we hire.
And these people are the verybest. And we have an operation.
We're in The United States. Ouroperation is in Florida, and our
people are everyone of them isspecial as far as I'm concerned.
I go to meetings, and I I'msupposed to know all of them.
I haven't haven't met them. Iknow all about them. But I have

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to have somebody walk me aroundand say, you know, this is Art,
and this is Denise. You know?And that's we're we're we're not
a huge company, but we're sodriven by our software that it's
it's, an unbelievableexperience.
When you first deal with us, youwill be so pleased that you're

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not having to worry about yourhome equity because we're
watching it for you. It it's nota not a just go, go, go. And,
you know, software can be veryexpensive to build, and ours is
been is probably the best in theindustry, quite frankly, in what
we do and how we do it. So, youknow, if somebody else tells you

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they're gonna do it, make surethat you understand one thing.
With ours, we follow your it'scalled the APN.
I call it the nuclear code foryour house. It's like a 10 or 12
or 14 digit number thatidentifies your park parcel
uniquely. That's what we operatein. We don't operate based upon

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your name or your street addressor anything like that. When you
file, we'll make sure we've gotthe correct, APN that we're
following in the nationalrecords so that people know that
we're watching their house, notsome guy named John Smith that
lives in, you know, you know,Central America or someplace.

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It's just you got to have thatkey identifier so that we know
that we're we've got the rightproperty for you, and you'll
know because we'll send you copyof your deed.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Perfect. Perfect. So I'll bring up the website one
last time. Hometitlelock.com,promo code Seth, that free title
search. I'll make sure that's inthe show description, so it's
easy to access.
And Art, thank you so much. It'sit's been a pleasure speaking
with you. I look forward tospeaking to you again, and I I
thank you for what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
Pleasure was all mine. And, Steph.