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November 2, 2025 66 mins

What if the weather-control experiments we’ve all heard about were just the surface of something far darker? In this explosive episode, Leigh Dundas joins me to expose the hidden side of HAARP — the technology that could be manipulating not just the skies… but our minds. How deep does this program really go? Tune in and decide for yourself.

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a
world gone mad. I'm your host,Seth Hullhouse. So maybe you've
heard of the HARP system. Soit's this giant field of
antennas that the militaryindustrial complex has built up
in nowhere Alaska that can, youknow, be used to control the
ionosphere, so they say. Now,people who have researched it,

(00:38):
you know, probably come toconclusions that it can be used
to potentially control weather,maybe even cause earthquakes,
and a whole lot more.
So according to my guest today,Lee Dundas, who's an amazing
freedom fighter, the HARP systemcan do a lot more than just
that. And what she's gonna betalking about today is actually
how the HARP system can be usedto actually control brain waves,

(01:01):
to target individuals orparticular populations, and that
it may have been used in thepast to cause mass violence,
things like the Rwanda genocideeven. And so we're gonna be
getting into not just some weirdtheories of stuff, but actually
some hard evidence that showsfrom the scientists who work on
it that this system and thistechnology can be used to

(01:23):
basically control people in amass way. We're talking take an
entire city or town of peopleand cause depression or anger or
happiness. So this is wildtechnology.
So I hope you please enjoy theshow. Finally, thank you for
watching on Rumble andsupporting a freedom fighting
channel and and platform. Ifyou're watching on Rumble, thank

(01:44):
you. Make sure you give a thumbsup, leave your comments, and
engage, and share thisinterview. So please enjoy the
interview with Lee Dundas.
Lee Dundas, it's such a pleasureto have you back on the show,
and I feel like it's beenforever. So thank you for being
here with us today.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Oh, thanks for having me. I always, like I was saying
before the show started, I justlove my time, talking about cool
stuff with you. And, yeah, Ithink it's been probably almost
a year. So we were overdue for alittle fireside chat.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
We were. We were. And hopefully we don't cry today.
Somehow we tend to go into thesesubjects that take us into some
pretty dark places of the world.But hopefully, we can, we'll
still we'll still cover somescary things, but we're not
gonna be digging into humantrafficking and the things that
are a little more difficult, toto get into.
So it's interesting actually,because you reached out to me

(02:32):
recently and said, Seth, let'sdo a show together. And you're
someone that I'm always like,okay, what are you doing right
now? Because you've got so manyinteresting interesting things
that you're always working on.And whatever you work on, you're
kinda putting your fullbrainpower into it, which makes
it a really fun discussion. Andso today, though, we're gonna be
getting getting into HARP.
And not just the weathermodification, but I I'd say

(02:52):
something almost more sinister.And so I'll start with bringing
up a tweet, from a guy namedPaul White Gold Eagle. Now he's
referencing Edward Snowden insome documents that he, had
seen. However, I can't confirm.Like, there's no link to the
documents.
So you know, take this as a witha grain of salt. However, when
you when you understandeverything behind this, this

(03:15):
makes much more sense. So I willread it. I'll read through it
just to help frame ourdiscussion, but then we're gonna
be going into some reallyconcrete evidence that I think
in a lot of ways backs upexactly what this guy is talking
about. So he says here, EdwardSnowden has spoken again, and
this time the silence broke thesky.
Hidden files confirm what thewatchers denied for decades.

(03:35):
HARP is not science. It's aweapon, a global mechanism of
control engineered to shapeweather, thoughts, and even
death itself. The atmosphere hasbeen militarized. The human mind
is a battlefield.
From his refuge in Moscow,Snowden released a new trove of
DARPA linked documents exposingthe true face of the high
frequency active, a ruralresearch program, HARP, in

(03:58):
Gakona, Alaska. For years, theytold us the they told the world
it was a harmless experiment tostudy the ionosphere. They built
it in the wilderness far fromwitnesses. Now the files show
its purpose was never research.It was dominance.
Now, again, I haven't seen thesethese files or leaked data, but
that's okay because we're we'relooking at the bigger picture of
this. According to leaked data,HARP generates ultra high power

(04:20):
radio waves capable ofpenetrating biological tissue
and disrupting neurologicalpatterns. Targets can suffer
strokes, cardiac failure, orpsychological breakdowns that
appear spontaneous. The deathslook natural. The insanity looks
organic, yet both areengineered.
NATO and its contractors usethis technology to suppress
voices, eliminate dissidents,and fracture resistance

(04:41):
movements without firing a shot.Snowden's testimony describes
how electromagnetic signaturesare mapped to individuals and
manipulated remotely. Oncecalibrated, a single frequency
can push the brain into chaos,rage, fear, confusion, all
programmable. Entire populationscan be nudged towards compliance
or hysteria, the perfect visibleinvisible weapon. During his

(05:06):
escape from Hong Kong, Snowdenreported that he and WikiLeaks
staff experienced bursts ofdirected energy designed to
induce homicidal delusions.
He built his current residenceas a Faraday cage sealed both
against both static and pulsedfields. Every wall lined with
copper mesh, every single block.It's the only way to think
freely, he said. The leakeddocuments include correspondence

(05:27):
between DARPA, Air ForceResearch divisions, and privates
and private defense contractorsoperating through the University
of Alaska. They discusssynchronization between HARP
transmitters, commercial celltowers, and a surveillance grid
known as trap wire.
The network performs a planetaryresonance field that can both
gather, gather, and projectdata. In the wrong hands, it

(05:48):
becomes an instrument of masspsychological conditioning.
Independent analysts whoreviewed the material confirmed
its authenticity. Oneintelligence source described it
as the missing link betweenelectronic warfare and social
control. Another called it thecrown jewel of the modern deep
state.
These systems once connectedcould simulate divine phenomena,
alter storm patterns, and evenneutralize political targets

(06:10):
through induced medical failure.Snowden's evidence also aligns
with earlier testimony by doctorNick Begich, who warned in 2009
that a harp could manipulateemotional states with ease. The
combination of electromagneticpulse and data analytics allows
operators to read, influence,and erase emotional signatures

(06:31):
across regions. It's not atheory anymore. It's functioning
infrastructure.
HARP was never about theweather. It was about prediction
and influence, shaping behavior,directing outcomes, steering
history itself throughfrequency. The skies above are a
screen and every transmission ispart of a code that decides who
awakens and who falls silent.Snowden's message is clear. The

(06:53):
war for control is not coming.
It is already being foughtquietly inside every signal,
every network, every pulse thathums above our heads. The
question is not whether harpexists, it's how deep the
network runs, and how long thesilence can hold before the
world begins to listen. Thetruth was never hidden in
darkness. It was hidden in thenoise. So I can say something
really quick.

(07:13):
I really wanna hear you, shareyour thoughts on this. But
whether it's HARP or the five gnetwork or any other things,
like everything that I'm seeinghim talking about here are the
same exact concepts and ideas,and even patents I've seen going
back to say, voice of Godtechnology, or looking at
researching targeted individualsthat say that they're being

(07:33):
targeted through the exact samething. You know, and if you look
at a lot of the mass murderersthat, you know, doing school
shootings, what they're hearingvoices in their heads. They're
oftentimes on SSRIs, which Ithink makes them more vulnerable
to these kind of influences. Soeverything that he says makes
perfect sense.
So, anyway, I will I'll let yougo ahead and kinda dive in and

(07:54):
and and inform us a lot more onthis.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah. No. You're you're really over target,
literally. They've had the termfor a while now, electronic
stalking or game stalking. Youhear people say all the time,
you know, and I mean, this goesback to to shows you and I
watched when we were kids in theeighties, like, you know,
tinfoil hat guys coming in andall they're they're beaming
messages at me from Mars or, youknow, from the government, and

(08:20):
they're trying to to to ruin meand control me.
And I think we all thought itwas the stuff of sci fi or, you
know, that poor man is aparanoid schizophrenic. But it
turns out that I owe all ofthose people a huge apology.
There probably weren't paranoidschizophrenics because we have
had this technology for a longtime. So regardless of whether

(08:41):
Snow did this drop that PaulWhite Gold Eagle said he did or
not on X last week, thetechnology is there. And, you
know, when you look at HARP,which stands for the High
Frequency Active AuroralResearch Program buried deep in
the wilds of Alaska on 33 acreswith 180 towers that transmit
and their goal according to thejoint project co sponsoring

(09:06):
groups, which is US Navy, US AirForce and DARPA, what could
possibly go wrong with thosegroups in control?
Their goal is to beam thesethings up at the sky, ideally
from 50 miles over planet Earthto 600 miles over planet Earth.
That's their target zone. Andyes, perfect. So there's the
picture. And I mean, you know,it looks totally innocent,

(09:27):
right?
When you look at that. Andthey're playing around on 33
acres. But Snowden's point viaPaul Gold Eagle was those towers
you just showed on the on thescreen there intersect with all
of the cell phone towers and theother towers around the world
and satellites. And they've gotthis grid worldwide that they

(09:48):
are using like Wi Fi repeatersto jiggle frequencies at the
human person, the human cells,the human biology and the human
brain. And so while it soundslike the stuff of fantasy or
delusion, and while if you factcheck Paul Gold Eagle, all of
mainstream media will be like,Snowden didn't make a new
release, that's all bullpucky.

(10:10):
I did a deep dive a year or twoago now and discovered that
shockingly, not only do theyhave this technology, they have
it down to a complete science,and they've had it since well
before you and I were born,Seth.

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Speaker 2 (11:42):
So one of the first things I stumbled across was a
more recent attack. It was theUS embassy in Havana shortly
after Trump took office thefirst time. And, you know, all
of a sudden, embassy workers arelike, woah, I feel really,
really ill. Like I'm hearingthings, I've got tinnitus, I got
ringing in my ears, I am dizzy,and I'm nauseous, and I can't

(12:03):
think straight. But lo andbehold, when I go to buy bananas
at the bazaar in the city, I'mfine.
It's only when I go back to workor back to sleep in my quarters
here that I suddenly feel ill.Our State Department ended up
taking it seriously and theydeployed three neuroscientific
medical doctors down there tostudy the 25 embassy workers

(12:24):
that were making these claims.And they put it

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Actually, I'll I'll pull this up real quick. This is
an article here. This is from2021. This is on BBC. Right?
Yeah. Because I remember whenthis happened with Kamala. She
was gonna do a trip down therethat got delayed. So here it
says Kamala Harris trip delayedover possible Havana syndrome
case. And it says that that, herflight to Vietnam was delayed by
several hours due to ananomalous health incident with

(12:46):
similarities to so called Havanasyndrome, reports say.
Says the mysterious syndromefirst affected people at The US
and Canadian embassies in Havanain 2016 and 2017. It may be
caused by directed microwaveradiation. So, like, it's like
Yeah. Hold on. Is this BBC thatthey're actually admitting that
they're not saying you know,online conspiracy theorists had

Speaker 2 (13:08):
claimed that

Speaker 1 (13:09):
it was this. They're saying it may have been, yeah,
it may have been caused bydirected microwave radiation.
So, anyway, I'll let youcontinue.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
No. No. No. Your point your point is well taken,
and that's exactly what I wastalking about. And thank you
for, for backfilling some of thedata I omitted when you and I
were transferring assetsearlier.
But, yeah, that's exactly theincident they're referring to.
And you're absolutely 100%correct. It was mainstream
media. I'm going to queue up orhave you queue up the CNN clip
in a minute. But they sent theseState Department directed
doctors down there, all thesepointy hat geek type MDs put the

(13:40):
Havana embassy workers throughall these tests.
What they found were objectivefindings across the board, 100%
on all of these affectedworkers. They had absolute
balance disorders and or eardisturbances. They noted for the
record that the findings weren'ta little bit abnormal. They were
monstrously abnormal, superabnormal, And more to the point

(14:01):
and were more shockingly andmore scary, they were displaying
very disrupted cognitivedisorder, cognitive processing
patterns, our ability to thinkand reason. I mean, that's
really nobody wants to losethat, Right?
Yeah. Take out my left leg, butleave my brain alone. So, yeah,
BBC was reporting on it and CNN,of all places, actually did a

(14:23):
whole little piece on it. We'vegot that clip queued up. You
want to roll it?

Speaker 1 (14:28):
It's a minute thirty four.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Of unexplained illnesses, including head
injuries, forced The US to bringhome diplomatic staff from China
and Cuba. The scientist who ledthe investigation tells the New
York Times the main culprit islikely some kind of microwave
weapon.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
It all began November 2016 right after the US
presidential election, and thatis when US diplomats based here
in Havana said they begin toexperience these really strange
symptoms often at night,sometimes while they're in bed,
asleep in their homes or theirhotel rooms here in Cuba. And
they said that they would feelnausea, hear loud sounds,
hearing loss. But if they got upout of bed, if they left the

(15:03):
room where they went, it wouldstop. If they walked back into
where that they had felt thisincident, this attack as they
described it, it would startagain. So they felt that they're
being targeted with some sort ofmysterious beam of energy.
Now we have scientists sayingthat perhaps it's a microwave
that shoots a beam of energy,and it can be pinpointed in the
way these diplomats describeboth here in Cuba and in China,

(15:24):
and that it can actually causepeople to think they're hearing
sounds. But this is just a asymptom of this beam of energy.
We don't know very little bitabout these weapons because so
few countries use them. Thereare a

Speaker 3 (15:35):
couple things from that reporting that there is
some place of blame or at leastlooking seriously at Russia. And
then the other is it's not justa very disturbing high pitched
noise, but there might even bevoices or a message, a continual
message. There are a number

Speaker 4 (15:50):
of countries, including the former Soviet
Union and now Russia, that havemicrowave weapon programs going
back decades. There's someevidence that they've been used
in other countries against USdiplomats. So this is a very
active program, and it's kind ofthe perfect weapon because it
leaves no trace.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah. Well, there you go. I mean, it's funny because
as much as we get mocked forconspiracy theories, if CNN says
it, it's probably true. I mean,and from this perspective, work.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah. That's exactly. Yeah. The the final the final
chapter in that particular sagawas the team of three expert
doctors that were deployed,concluded the incident was
indeed a wide scale use ofelectronics to carry out a so
called neurological weaponsattack. So our guys were hit.

(16:38):
This isn't sci fi, and everybodyincluding mainstream media was
confirming that along with theState Department. So you heard
the guy saying at the end, youknow, the girl was saying, Oh,
gosh, they can even encodemessages and having your voices
in there. True, very true. Andapparently, they've been able to
do that for a darn long time.And then you heard the guy say,
yeah, Russia's have thistechnology going back decades.

(17:00):
So that made me when I saw thatclip, Seth, I was like, really?
And I Googled it up. I wasn'teven on DuckDuckGo. I'm just
Googling away over here overlunch one day. And the next
thing that came up was a Moscowattack.
Similar presentation, our Moscowembassy workers, but in 1960, so
longer than you and I have beenalive. In 1960 are reporting all

(17:23):
sorts of stuff. They're saying,hey, we feel sick, we can't make
decisions, our decision makingcapacity is shot, chronic
stress, low efficiency. Andthey're griping and moaning and
CIA and State Department arelike, yeah, you probably got a
flu virus, you know, shake itoff, you'll be fine. Two years
into it with these guysunremittingly saying something

(17:44):
is going on, CIA opens ProjectPandora to study the effects of
what might be going on in ourlittle Russian embassy in
Moscow.
And to get to the bottom of it,they decide to put lab rats and
guinea pigs in, literal lab ratsand monkeys in cages into the
basement of the embassy inMoscow to see how they're
faring. Sure, shooting the ratscan't find the cheese in the

(18:07):
maze. The monkeys are like, Idon't know what you want me to
do. I can't remember anythingyou tell me to do. I mean, it is
a nightmare.
The embassy, the senior embassyworkers, all the embassy workers
had a 40% increase in theirwhite blood cell count. Anybody
who knows anything aboutmedicine knows something's wrong
when you have 50% almostincrease in your white cell

(18:29):
count. And the embassy lead, ourambassador to Russia died of
some sort of weird leukemialike, but not exactly leukemia
disease. So Project Pandora goeson, at no point, Seth, in
keeping with all of ourgovernment experiments, at no
point do they actually tell theembassy workers, hey, boys and

(18:50):
girls, you might be beingexperimented on by all sorts of
weird electronic waves that theRussians are directing at you to
see what can happen. This thingrolls until 1975.
I have now been born. I'm threeyears old. 15 years. They allow
our workers to get hit whenHenry Kissinger and I see you've
got some stuff up on the screenthere. Henry Kissinger in '75

(19:11):
sends a telegram to the Russianembassy workers entitled
Radiation and ElectromagneticDangers.
And they indicate, finally,after all this time when it's a
little too late, beginning in1960, the Soviet Union directed
high frequency beams ofradiation at the US embassy
workers in Moscow, which werecalculated not to pick up
intelligence, but rather tocause physiological effects on

(19:34):
our personnel. The effects theSoviets thought they were
achieving included malaise,irritability and extreme
fatigue. At the time, theSoviets believed this would be
temporary. But subsequently,it's been verified that the
effects are not temporary, andthey are tied to such things as
cataracts, blood changes thatinduce heart attacks, cancerous

(19:55):
malignancy, circulatory problemsand permanent, not temporary,
but permanent deterioration ofthe central nervous system.
Scarily enough, in most cases,the quote after effects do not
become evident until long afterexposure a decade or more.
So yeah, they've had thistechnology for freaking ever. We

(20:16):
were late to the party and thislittle arms race to develop it.
And, yeah, I mean, it's the sameexact play, different year out
of the same exact playbook.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Exactly. So here it is.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
This is just something, this

Speaker 1 (20:29):
is the I think what you're mentioning, they refer to
as the Moscow signals. This isfrom '67 to '77. It starts here.
It says, this is an article from2022, but it says, on
12/09/1975, as secretary ofstate of state Henry Kisner
prepared to travel to Moscow forarms control talks, he placed an
urgent phone call to Sovietambassador, Anatoly Dobrinan in

(20:53):
Washington. He's saying, quote,I want to talk to you about the
signal, the beam that you arebeaming into our embassy in
Moscow.
Maybe you could turn off when Iget there. So he says amid the
banter, he talked about how theSoviets could give me a
radiation treatment. So, again,yeah, you're right. I mean and
one thing that I will say,actually, I'll make two points.
Just two kind of basicprinciples that I've come to

(21:15):
understand through all myresearch.
One, whatever technology that wesee that is allowed to even be
kind of put into the publicsphere is already so far beyond
the technology that we're beinghit kind of that's being hidden
from us. That's one thing. Theother thing is that whenever a
government has any kind ofweapon, they will always use it

(21:37):
on their own people. Maybe notimmediately, but they never just
do these things to fight the badguys. They're always finding
ways or having contingency plansif they have to use it on their
own people or actively use it ontheir own people.
So there's two points I've justkind of seen proved over and
over again to be true.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, they experiment on other
people's, other countries'people, but there's no you know,
the gloves are off. There's nostopping their experimentation
on us without informed consentin violation of Nuremberg and
all the other, you know, highlevel international rules of
engagement. They do it anyway.
And then ten, twenty, fiftyyears later, they go up, so
sorry, we did this. Everybodywho was involved is dead. Nobody

(22:18):
cares anymore. Our bad movingon. But yeah, so we have these
bookended things where okay, the50s and the 60s.
Clearly, The Soviet Union andRussia have this technology all
the way up until a couple ofyears ago. We're still getting
embassy hits using, I'm sure, amore refined version of this
technology. But sandwiched rightin the middle there, I found an

(22:39):
article about another projectthat allegedly was run out of
our CIA. It was entitledOperation Crimson Mist. So you
may remember the Rwandangenocide, 04/06/1994.
You know, I'm just starting, mylaw practice. You know, we're
all in our teens and earlytwenties, whatever. And the way
it went down is the Rwandanpresident and his entire cabinet

(23:02):
were flying into Rwanda or outof Rwanda when a hailstorm of
cannon shells go ripping throughthis airplane's interior.
Obviously, it torpedoes itstraight to the ground where all
aboard die immediately onimpact. That is what we know for
sure.
The stink of it is that was notan accident. And the subsequent

(23:24):
genocide where the Hutu tribeand the Tutsi tribe started
warring with killing each otherover. Oh, you killed our
president. No, you killed ourpresident was not actually a
native and organic disturbance,but one that was fomented under
Operation Crimson Mist by ourCIA. So allegedly, you can start
running that clip if you haveit.

(23:46):
It's a silent clip, so I'll justtalk over the top of it. But you
had our CIA agents allegedly onthe ground on the tarmac there.
They're giving disinformation toboth tribes. Hey, Hutus, it's
the Tutsis' fault. Hey, Tutsis,it's the Hutus' fault.
They managed to stir up adisagreement between the two
tribes to the point that they'relobbying rocks and spears at

(24:07):
each other, but they're nothomicidal. At that point, the
CIA agents lift off in thisC-one 130 airplane to fly at a
very low level over the warringtribes with this big microwave
dish that's been outfitted tothe back of this thing. And
allegedly they are beaming radiowaves and microwaves frequencies

(24:28):
at the crowd. And yeah, that'sthe end of the clip. And within
a nanosecond of them doing this,it looks like it's on repeat,
All of a sudden you've takenthese tribes who are pissed off
with each other to actuallycommitting a genocide and
killing a good portion of theirown population over the ensuing
couple of months.
And, you know, once again, Seth,it sounds like, okay, that just

(24:51):
sounds like crazy talk. The factthat you could take a certain
hertz wave, oh, you know, fivehertz or 10 hertz or whatever,
beam it at people and make themhomicidal maniacs. But it's
actually true. And they have hadthis technology going back a
while. It was built on the backof Doctor.
Elizabeth Rauscher Beas. She wasan astrophysicist from the 1930s

(25:14):
who was doing a lot of work, upin Northern Powell. She was, the
only woman in her undergradprogram doing nuclear fusion
work. That was in the latesixties nuclear physics in the
seventies. She ends up attachedto the Stanford Research
Institute of Radio Physics.
Then she moves on to theLawrence Livermore Labs. Then
she's attached to the StanfordLinear Accelerator Center, then

(25:37):
DARPA and NASA and theforerunners to all those our DoD
hear about her. They startcontracting with her. And she's
Einstein female version. And shehad warned in 1994, right around
the time of the Rwandangenocide, she was actually out
here in California, right up thehill in Lake Arrowhead.
And she had been studyingelectronic waves, exceedingly

(26:01):
low frequency. They're calledELF, low frequency waves, which
are naturally generated when thetectonic plates shift right in
advance of an earthquake. So ifyou're studying these waves that
sometimes come out of the groundin a very predictable pattern,
couple days in advance of anearthquake, there'll be a big
uptick in the amount of thesevery low voltage waves, very low

(26:22):
frequency waves. And so she'sgiving a presentation up at Lake
Arrowhead in April '94. Andshe's like, hey, you guys are
going to have a really, reallybad earthquake in excess of
seven point zero, probably inthe next two weeks.
I humbly predict ten days later,I guess it was actually June
'94. Was given a speech. Tendays later, we had a 7.5
earthquake in Landers right downthe hill from where she gave

(26:44):
that speech. That, you know,that got me thinking like, wow,
if you can notice that anearthquake is impending by
watching these naturallyoccurring waves, can you do the
opposite? Can you induce thesewaves, shut them into the
earth's crust and then set off atectonic plate disturbance and
create the earthquake?

(27:04):
And the answer, the short answerto that question is hell yes, we
can. And by the way, you wannatake a gander as to how long
they've been able to do that,Seth? Set off an earthquake by
using these waves?

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Probably since like the fifties, I mean.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Even longer, 1898, it was Nikola Tesla. Yeah, I'm
telling you, my mind was justblown. Like I sat down to do
fifteen minutes of research overlunch. Like two weeks later and
three ninety browser tabs later,I'm like, you know, the dog is
looking at me like, Are you evergoing to end this research? Mom,
I was crazy.
So Nikola Tesla, Serbianinventor, everybody knows the

(27:40):
Tesla coil comes over here inthe late 1800s with like, you
know, a nickel in his pocket,lives in New York City, gets a
bright idea one day, I'm goingto make a giant vibrating unit.
And I'm going to strap it on toa steel beam in my New York City
apartment and see what happens.Now, most people, if they
discovered a giant vibrator,would have had a different

(28:02):
thought as to what to use itfor. But, you know, this is
Nikola Tesla. He's like, Let mesee if I can set off an
earthquake.
I'm not going to use it in thebedroom. I'm going use it to set
off an earthquake. So off hegoes running errands right in
the little horse drawn carriage.You know, early automobiles of
the New York City comes back acouple of hours later to find
the authorities are breakingdown the door to his apartment,

(28:22):
dismantling his littleexperiment, taking off the
vibrator from the steel beam. Ithad, in fact, caused the steel
beam to vibrate.
The steel beam from hisapartment went all the way into
the earth to, you know, makesure the apartment stayed up.
And the beam was vibrating andit found a matching frequency
somewhere subterranean that didits thing and set off a little

(28:44):
earthquake, not in California,where you would expect an
earthquake, but in DowntownManhattan. So that was enough
for the authorities to be like,no, no, no. And he's like, oh,
well, next time I'll do it on apier. And he went out to a pier
that was under construction,another building, and he repeats
the experiment.
Finally, I think they're likedone with him, because all of a
sudden you see him popping uptwo years later. It's a 1900 and

(29:07):
he's in Colorado Springs. And hedecides he's going to do this
again. He is going to takeexceedingly low frequency waves
this time, not a big vibratorwaves and beam them into the
earth just to see what happens.Well, what happens is 25 miles
away, 25 miles, half hour awayif you're going 60 miles an
hour.
Edison, because Edison's racingto the light bulb all around the

(29:29):
same time, has set up 200 streetlamps in the city of Colorado
Springs. They are not attachedto anything, Seth. There's
there's light bulbs in them, butthey're not wired into the grid
such as it was. They're justfreestanding, waiting to be
hooked up. So Tesla down theroad starts playing with his
frequencies.
All 200 of Edison street lampsturn on for, like, two days.

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Speaker 2 (31:15):
The, butterflies, as they're flying around, minding
their own business, every timethey pump their wings, little
single most fire blue halos arenow shooting out their wings of
the mods and the butterflies.People are like, is it a new
lightning bug? Like, what theheck is that? And then the most
fascinating part is housewiveslike me go to turn on their tap

(31:36):
to get some water to wash thedishes, and there's no water
that comes out. Fire shoots outof the faucet for days.
Fire shoots out the waterfaucets. Yeah, in the region.
So, yes, they have been able toinduce earthquakes and a whole
menagerie of other very strangephenomena like, you know,

(31:56):
butterflies that have halos offire around their wings and fire
shooting out of the tap since,you know, before our
grandparents were born. Sopretty crazy stuff. There was a
project seal.
It was another Actually,

Speaker 1 (32:09):
real quick. Sorry. Before we we jump, I I wanna
mention some other thing aboutso I remember doing some
research on this that after theHaiti earthquake, Hugo Chavez
came out and blamed it on TheUS. I'm not sure if you saw
this. So this is from 2010.
It says, quote, a tectonicweapon under testing by The
United States caused the HaitiEarthquake according to

(32:30):
Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavezwho appears to have who have
more of a sci fi background thanwe all thought. It says here
that president Chavez said TheUS was playing god by testing
devices capable of creatingecotype catastrophes in in a
Spanish newspaper, saying thatChavez says the killer
earthquake followed a test ofweapon of earthquakes just

(32:52):
offshore from Haiti. He did notelaborate on the source of his
claim. So, I mean and I wasmaking this a quick point here
because if you look at thehumanitarian disaster that was
the Haiti Earthquakes, you lookat the Rwandan genocide as
another example. You look ateven going back into, say, the
Spanish flu, when there's oddtiming of when the Spanish flu

(33:13):
came out, I think when theyfirst started using radio waves.
There's all these differentinstances where you have these
mass catastrophes, whetherthey're weather related. Even
looking at currently theearthquake that is that is or
sorry, the hurricane that's overJamaica, that there's a lot of
people that are noticing veryabnormal weather patterns with
it, how it paused right offshore, similar to Katrina when,

(33:35):
when Katrina came in and it kindof paused and just kind of
hovered. And it it just seemslike how many of these
catastrophes and and pandemicsand everything that they these
different things that just kindof changed the course of human
history, how many of them werejust caused by people in a lab,
in some bunker, some CIA bunker?I think probably a lot more than

(33:56):
we would think. But you onething you you did mention, I'm
not sure if if we if you wannamove on yet, but the doctor,
Rauscher.
We have a little short interviewwith her. Did you want to play
that real quick before or didyou kind of work into that?

Speaker 2 (34:08):
I know. We'll come back to that

Speaker 1 (34:10):
in a second.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Your statement about earthquakes got me thinking, and
I was looking up anotherpresentation I did on this two
years ago. I think we all havesuspected that with things like
HARP and DO directed energyweapons, that they can turn
these hurricanes and tornadoeson a dime, create fires, you
name it. I mean, we've all hadour suspicions about Lahaina and
the California fires. But in1976, there was an allegation

(34:36):
that the Chinese earthquake ofseventy six, so I was four years
old at this point, that killedsix hundred and fifty thousand
people in Mainland China was notnaturally occurring. To your
last point, Seth, The New YorkTimes actually report mainstream
media again, that the nightprior to the earthquake hitting
before the first tremor, the skylit up like daylight, lights

(34:57):
were red and white in the sky,and they could be seen 200 miles
away, Leaves on trees burned toa crisp.
Remind you of Lahaina. That'snot something that normally
happens with earthquakes andgrowing vegetables were scorched
on only one side as if byfireball. That was a New York
Times statement. I was fouryears old and in preschool, they

(35:19):
were already looking at whetherforeign governments were
experimenting on other countriesor indeed, in this case, perhaps
their own population creatingnatural disasters, weather
disturbances. And then that sortof segues into the work of a
researcher by the name ofAshoot.
I don't have his, he was aprofessor at Auckland
University, but I didn't put hisname down here. And he had been

(35:39):
using again, these extreme lowfrequency waves underwater to
see what happens. Well, whathappens is it creates a little
wave. But if you do it at theright angle with the right
amount of whatever, these littlewaves can sort of have a ripple
effect and create a tsunami. Sohe's experimenting down in
Auckland, New Zealand shortlyafter World War Two, when all of
a sudden our top secret U.

(36:00):
S. Defense chiefs are eyeballinghis work and going, hey, boy,
come work for us. And what theydiscovered is that you could
induce tsunamis or tidal wavesusing this type of technology.
And the public facing statementon it was, quote, it could have
played a role as effective asthat of the atom bomb had only
Project Seal and this AucklandUniversity professor discovered

(36:23):
it before World War Two insteadof right after. So yes, they
have been monkeying with ourweather and with our earthquakes
and with our tsunamis and withour everything for many, many,
many years now.
But again, back to Doctor.Elizabeth Rauscher, who warned,
you know, when I was coming outof law school in '94, hey, boys
and girls, you're gonna have abig earthquake because I'm

(36:44):
measuring these waves andthere's been an uptick. Yeah,
you can reverse engineer it. Youcan watch the waves happen and
predict the earthquake, but youcan also create the waves and
make the earthquake. And she wasjust, like I said, first time, a
flipping genius.
So she ends up, she's atBerkeley, she's teaching a
nuclear physics class, and shegets her students to agree to

(37:04):
let a little machine she createdbe used against them as an
experiment, allegedly nonharmful. And all of her class
go, Sure, teach, you gotsomething new to bias you want
to try out on us, go for it. Soshe beams half of her Berkeley
graduate students with thisenergy, this frequency, and

(37:25):
immediately sat there, oh mygod. I mean, just, you know,
they look like they're having anepileptic fit. Their teeth are
chattering uncontrollably.
They're shaking uncontrollably.They look like they've been left
outside in an Alaskan snowstormmid February for like a week.
And the other half of the classthat she had not beamed looks
over at the professor,Professor, you know, Elizabeth

(37:46):
Rauscher Bees and goes, niceparty trick, my dear, how much
did you have to pay the otherhalf of the class to put on that
little Oscar worthy performance?And she goes, Oh, you think
they're just play acting? Do dodo do do do do And she beams in
a van, the non believing side,and the whole class is just
decimated and shaking in theirchairs.
So they get the attention ofCNN. Again, mainstream media.

(38:09):
Again, when I'm a kid, I'mtalking, I've got my hair out to
here, it's 1980 something, I'mwearing neon green and yellow.
I'm in sixth grade. I think I'mcool as a cucumber.
Well, I'm not watching CNN atthis point in time, but CNN has
a correspondent that does thesedeep dives, a multi part series
by the name of Chuck Del Caro.And he goes to the lab of this

(38:31):
woman, Doctor. ElizabethRascherbeez and her husband,
who's an equally crazy genius.And he agrees to be blindfolded
and muffled. They put earmuffson him so he cannot hear, cannot
see anything.
And he agrees to let them beam asignal into his brain that is
carrying an encoded message, avery simple message of a

(38:53):
geometric shape, like a squareor a circle or a triangle. And
the instructions and I'm givingyou a little bit of a preview
because the audio is a littlebit fuzzy because it's such an
old clip. The instructions youhear the couple tell Chuck Del
Carr, the correspondent is, hey,just call out whatever geometric
shape you see flying by. And atone point, you hear the reporter
go, a parabola just flew by. Ifyou if you've got that clip,

(39:15):
let's roll it because it'spretty, pretty persuasive.

Speaker 6 (39:19):
CNN enlisted the help of noted physicist, doctor
Elizabeth Rauscher, andelectrical engineer, Bill Van
Beiss, to build and test an RFmine interference machine from
data found in Soviet scientificliterature. The machine itself
was inexpensive and easy toconstruct using parts from a
consumer electronics store. Itemits a weak magnetic field,
pulsed at extremely lowfrequency. As the subject of the

(39:39):
test, I was blindfolded and myears were blocked. A magnetic
probe was placed about 18 inchesfrom my head.
Two signal generators producedwaveform patterns that were
transmitted by the magneticprobe.

Speaker 7 (39:50):
Describe anything that you see here.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
Parabola just went fine. Later, I asked Van Bice
what a weapon using thistechnology could do.

Speaker 7 (39:57):
Induce basically what would be considered
hallucinations in people, directthem to do things against their
so called better judgment. Howeasy would it

Speaker 6 (40:07):
be to assemble a weapon from existing off the
shelf parts?

Speaker 7 (40:10):
For three weeks, I could put together a weapon that
would take care of a whole town.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Three weeks, I could build a weapon that would take
care of a whole town fromconsumer electric parts.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
From RadioShack. Yeah. Basically. So that was
what the husband said on CNN.The wife, doctor Rauschabies,
who was the real brains of theoperation is on record having
said, give this is the quote,give me the money and three
months time, and I will be ableto affect the behavior of 80 of
the people in any town withouttheir even knowing it, make them

(40:46):
happy, or at least they'll thinkthey're happy or make them
aggressive.
And there I'm not going todisclose it on here because we
don't need, you know, the nextUnabomber to be listening to Lee
and Seth and get the evilrecipe. But you can actually
direct a certain hertz voltagefrequency, whatever. And, you
know, if you pick it at thisnumerical marker, it will induce

(41:09):
depression. You increase at oneand a half. It will now not
induce depression in a normalsubject, but lead to an altered
state associated with pleasantfeelings.
The high you get after you'vehad three beers or something
else at a fraternity party, yougo three, three rings on the
ring over that. And now you areinducing riotous behavior. So as

(41:30):
you can imagine, there is onehell of a lot of potential
military applications. Theyalluded to it a little bit in
the last clip, but, CNN wasinterviewing a Nobel Peace Prize
winner candidate, And this guywas on record. This is the next
one.
I think it's a frequency six orsomething if you have it there,

(41:51):
Seth. But he was talking aboutwhat it could do in a military
context.

Speaker 6 (41:55):
We showed the results of our test to doctor Robert
Becker, a two time nominee forhis work in the biological
effects of electromagnetism.

Speaker 8 (42:02):
Could markedly influence the operations of
fighter pilot. The effect uponof that upon the efficiency with
which an army, an air force, ora navy would operate would be
catastrophic.

Speaker 6 (42:16):
Chuck DeCaro, CNN special assignments.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
It's just yeah. I'll I'll let you continue, and then
I'll get into my thoughts. Butthis this is wild.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
It is absolutely wild. And you can look at the
hair, you can look at the suits,and you can realize that you
were either a teenager or, youknow, in grade school or not
even born yet when these boyswere doing this expose in the
eighties. I mean, they have hadthis technology for literally
almost fifty years, and it'sbeen an open secret. And, you
know, we lost that fighter pilotand plane that went down, I

(42:48):
think in the Carolinas a year ortwo ago. And it was
coincidentally the same weekthat I first found that clip.
And me and my husband, I askedhim to pull the clips out of
these three hours of CNNdocumentary. And all of a
sudden, we're eating dinner andwe see the news about the plane
going down on the East Coast.And he goes, maybe it was just a

(43:09):
natural occurrence and fell outof the sky, or maybe somebody
beamed a weapon at either thingyou've got. I mean, it's a
target rich environment. Theycan beam it at the electronics
of these fighter jets, just jamthe technology and the thing
falls out of the sky, or theycan beam it at the head of the
guy in the cockpit.
The machinery is working great,but the machinery up here at
work at all. And now he's justnot doing what he needs to do to

(43:30):
come in for a landing and hefalls out of the sky. So, yeah,
there's a severe amount ofapplications, a lot of which are
nefarious that they can put thisto. And the final words from
CNN, they went over to thePentagon, you see Chuck Del Caro
in a second standing in front ofthe Pentagon and going through
the fact that this is scarystuff and governments everywhere

(43:51):
are playing with it. And ourgovernment is not exactly coming
out and saying yay or nay as towhether they're using it or not.
But they then interviewed aclassified guy with classified
intel who refused to be named onthe video, and you can see here
what he says. It's pretty crazy.Go ahead and roll that if you
got it.

Speaker 6 (44:08):
He stated that the research was carried out on
orders from the Sovietgovernment. Is the United States
military working in the field ofelectronic mind control?
Officially, the Department ofDefense will not comment because
the subject area is, quote, toosensitive. But CNN has learned
from this government scientistwho did not want to be
identified that a Navylaboratory conducted research

(44:28):
into the use of an RF device forcounter terrorism and special
operations. It's possible toentrain a certain percentage of
a population apparently withweak magnetic fields.
The study also showed that RFsignals could dissolve certain
types of rat brain cells at adistance causing disorientation
and nausea. According to thescientists, even though the
program was successful, thegovernment never followed up on

(44:50):
it. Of defense will not commentabout Soviet RF weapons.
However, experts interviewed byCNN say that the Soviets are
apparently ahead and couldexploit that lead in a surprise
strategic move, a move thatcould have grave consequences
for The United States. This isChuck DeCarro, CNN's special
assignments.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Thought the clipboard it says sorry.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
Just a little line there where

Speaker 1 (45:11):
they say, if they work with the scientists and
then they decide to notfollow-up with it. It's like,
oh, okay. So that maybe theyjust they they stopped the
research. It was too dangerous.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Too dangerous. I'm sure they stopped. Yeah. Russia
was ahead of us, but it was toodangerous the fact that you
could dissolve rat brain cellsand then train a certain segment
of the population using weakelectronic waves. Of course,
we're just going to push pauseon that.
Let Russia get that. They'vealready got the jump on us.
We're just going to let themcontinue to do what they're
doing, which, by the way, whatthey were doing, the old lady
you saw, but they didn't reallylet her speak much because she

(45:40):
had a horrible Russian accentafter she immigrated here. She
brought all the technology toour DoD that they had had for
fifteen, twenty years in Russia.And she's like, Oh yeah, we've
been able to kill the cow at athree mile radius by just like
melting his brain for a coupleof decades and you guys can't do
anything.
So our government was waybehind. You and I both know they

(46:01):
don't like being way behind onanything. And it is highly
doubtful that they justdiscontinued their research in
this regard. But yeah, all ofthat work in Russia built on the
back of primarily one guy by thename of Kozhnichiev. And it's
really scary, but it's alsoreally phenomenal.
And I want to read you the wholequote, if I may, because it'll

(46:23):
segue us into a little bit of aless dark area. The quote is,
Seth, the Cosanichievexperiments in The Soviet Union
proved that any cellular deathand disease pattern, cancer,
autoimmune, infertility, anycellular death and disease
pattern can be induced by aspecific electromagnetic pattern

(46:45):
carried on a certainelectromagnetic signal if the
target cells are bombarded withthe pattern carrying carrier
signals for a long enough periodof time. Let me put it in third
grade English. If they bombardyourselves long enough with this
wave that carries the rightsignature, they can create any
type of death and disease theywant in your body if they do it

(47:05):
long enough. Here's the goodnews.
What was not published of thisman's work, Cosnichier's work
was his corresponding workshowing electromagnetic reversal
of cellular death and diseaseconditions. They have the answer
to everything that ails us. Theycan induce sickness and cancers

(47:26):
and death. But they have alsohad the answer to a lot of these
conditions, if not all of them,for a very long time. So that
was Cosentysev's work in the50s.
It goes underground becausenobody wants to be able to cure
cancer. You can't do that. Youcan't cure anything, right? So
it goes underground for twentyyears. And then a French
scientist, a doctor by the nameof Antoine Priore, P R I O R E

(47:48):
in the 70s when I'm a littlekid, toddler, get some backers
and he starts making this littledevice that's like a shoebox.
And he puts rats that have, youknow, cancerous tumors in their
body, monkeys with certaindiseases, and he puts them
inside this thing. But helearned early on, you had to
have the entire body of theanimal inside, including the

(48:10):
tail, including the hair. Andthey always tell us, Oh, hey,
your hair is dead after itleaves your scalp. Well, if it's
really dead, why did this Frenchdoctor have to get the hair and
everything else into the box toclear out the disease? So he's
putting these animals that aresick as dogs into this little
shoebox, zapping them with theright frequency and bing, bing,

(48:32):
boom, they're cured of whateverails them.
So a bunch of billionairebackers get behind them again in
the seventies. You can find someFrench news articles. I have
one, but I forgot to share itwith you. So before the show,
it's a French language newspaperand they got a picture of the
doctor Antoine Priore. And he'sstanding looking up at this
enormous four story tallstructure that he has made.

(48:52):
It had to be that tall to getthe frequency to the right level
that he could put a human beingin. And they're getting ready to
like release this to the entireworld in the seventies. Oh, when
once again, somebody didn't wantthat to actually become
mainstream news, and they putthe kibosh on it. And here we go
for another twenty, thirtyyears, suspecting that there's
something that can cure whatails us, but not actually having

(49:15):
the actual shoe box or thegenerator or whatever you call
these pieces of equipment. But Istumbled a couple of years ago,
my husband had some eczema andpsoriasis after one of the
events we went to, and his facewas the color of like a cherry
tomato.
Mean, it was redder than that.And we were down visiting some
friends in Florida, and they,they ended up going, Oh, we've

(49:39):
got this frequency device and wecan use it on your husband. And
you know, it'll it'll make hislittle psoriasis, eczema rashi
thing go away. And they told mehow much it costs. And I'm like,
Look, I'm broke.
I've been like, given everythingI've got to the freedom fight. I
don't have a pot to you knowwhat in but you know, if while
we're sitting here you want to,I was looking for a picture of
it. If you want to go ahead andyou know, do your thing with

(50:00):
your little hairdryer type thingon my husband's face, knock
yourself out. No kidding, Seth.They look, it looks like a
ginormously long red hair dryer.
They beam it up my husband'sface. He's sitting there like
he's at a salon, you know, andI'm like, what kind of woo woo
BS is this? Ten minutes afterthey get done hair drying my
husband's face, it looks 50%better. The next morning, he's

(50:23):
like, here, this skin looks likea newborn baby. I'm like, Okay,
what is this machine and howmuch does it cost?
My husband and bought themachine. To this day, my husband
walks around with his ownmachine every day like clockwork
out of the shower, he's inthere, he uses it as a
hairdryer, he uses it all overhis little naked body, probably
TMI, we go to a Clay Clarkevent, it's in his carry on.

(50:45):
He's like, Oh, don't check mycarry on. We don't want to break
the crystals or whatever is inthere. But this thing is magic.
They got a horse, a big oldhorse in Florida had a cancerous
tumor behind its eyeball. Andthere was nothing too gory going
on. It was just slightlybulging. The owners got the vet
over there like, yeah, yourhorse has cancer, you need to
put him down. Like, no, we don'twant to put our horse down.

(51:05):
Next vet comes out. Well, wecould take your horses eyeball
out with the tumor, but thenyou're gonna have a blind horse.
And the owners are like, no, wedon't want to do that. So they
use this machine on it. You'rein the Midwest, or used to be in
Ohio, I think, right?
So if you're in horse country,right? I grew up with horses, if
you know anything about a horse,they do not want to stand still
while you run a very loud,hairdryer thing at their

(51:28):
eyeball. Nobody wants that, noteven a human that's got social
skills and like, Okay, fine, youcan hit my face, even though
it's not comfortable. This horsemust have intuitively sensed it
was doing something good becauseby day two, they're ground tying
the horse. They're letting theirhands off the lead rope.
The horse is just standing therestill is a statue letting this
hairdryer be used on itseyeball. So a day or two into
it, all of a sudden you see theeyeball get really big, really

(51:50):
bug eyed. And then a day afterthat, a thing that's about the
size of a cherry tomato lookslike a shiny slimy cherry tomato
comes hanging out of theeyeball. Extrudes out between
the eyelid and the eyeball.There's this big cherry tomato
hanging out.
And then the next day the thingfalls out and the horse is fine.
No more cancer. Crazy town. Somy pastor friend calls these

(52:13):
technologies, the alleged medbeds that are coming out, I
think Trump might have truthsocial about it for a day and
then took the post down a weekago. Charlie Ward talks about a
lot of people in the freedommovement.
We've been hearing about theright technology, the med bed
technology, the frequency, thePMF mats. But we are starting to
actually get to the point wherethis technology isn't just some

(52:37):
crazy scientist in a DoDbasement somewhere. It's
actually being made available tothe masses. One of the most
brilliant things is a water.There was a Hungarian scientist
whose daughter got pancreaticcancer.
Mainstream med was like,Sayonara, see you later, go home
and die. Nobody cares that. TheSungarian scientist was like, I
don't want my 20 year olddaughter to die. So he created a

(53:00):
water. The water is not themagic.
The water is basically thedelivery vehicle for a very
stable oxygen unit. And youdrink a glass of this water and
crazy stuff happens. Hisdaughter, you can't say the C
word, the two C words in thesame sentence. But in Europe,
the daughter that was about todie of pancreatic cancer started

(53:20):
drinking this water that daddycreated. And suddenly she's
totally fine.
She's still alive years later.So daddy makes a medi spa in
Hungary where people bathe inthe water if they've got really
bad conditions. And all of thepeople who bathe in the water
come in really sick as dogs andthey walk out fine. And one of
them was a very autistic kid.The kid had never spoken a word

(53:42):
14 year old violent autisticboy.
My friends who are bringing thiswater to America were there to
cure their own problems. And mygirlfriend's a real big believer
in communication. So everymorning she would do an
exaggerated wave and a hello toautistic kid who's zero
attention. Know, she's like, hi,so and so and he's like, you
know, stemming and flapping andnot making eye contact. And on a

(54:05):
few days in, she goes, Hi, soand so.
And he looks up and he goes, Hi.And his mother from Armenia
bursts into tears and in brokenEnglish says he never speak a
word. He said, I love you, mama,this morning and gave me a hug.
Four days later, the youngerbrother goes, Hey, buddy, it's
time for your your water bath.And this 14 year old kid who had

(54:29):
never spoken a word for fourteenyears prior to this week, looks
at the brother, holds up hishand, says in a minute in his
native language and finishescoloring a picture inside the
lines.
Prior to that, can no fine motorcontrol. He couldn't color. He
couldn't talk and sure, shoot,he couldn't multitask and do
those three things at one time.That is the kind of reversals
they are seeing with this oxygenwater. And it's not Kenyon.

(54:52):
It's not hydrogen. It'sliterally like a hyperbaric
chamber in a glass of water. Ifyou know anything about disease,
disease thrives in low oxygenenvironments. You want to be a
healthier person, get oxygen inyour body. This was a woman who
had gnarly blood.
You do not want to take yourblood and put it under a
microscope and have it look likethis chick's 60 year old lady,

(55:13):
it looks like the HawaiianIsland chain. She drinks a glass
of the water. They take herblood two minutes later, same
blood after drinking the water.It is absolutely phenomenal. The
University of Italy at Milan hada woman who ran her thumb
through, like a saw and theythrew some water in the bandage
and they're like, you know, toobad, so sad.

(55:33):
You learn in third grade scienceclass, if you cut off your
finger or tip of it, it doesn'tregrow. We're not salamanders
and we sure aren't starfish.They take off the bandage and a
little while later her missingpiece of thumb regrew. The
researchers and doctors werelike, what? That is counter to
everything we've ever been told.
Turns out when they looked atthe causal mechanism for how

(55:54):
that can happen, there's a genein our body responsible for
making appendages. And it's veryactive when you're in your
mother's stomach in utero. Andafter you're born, the little
gene looks around and it goes,well, you got all 20 of your
fingers and toes and your armsand your legs, Peace out. My
work here is done. Never did itever be brought out of
hibernation unless you getenough oxygen in your body.

(56:16):
And then apparently you canbring that gene out of
hibernation and make it regrowpieces of your body. Again, I'm
not making claims. I'm notmaking representations. I'm just
telling you what happened at theUniversity of Italy. So if
you're interested in the water,it's on my website, my mommy
gave me extra letters.
It's leedundas.com. If you go tothat Healthy Living page, you
can see it for yourself. And thelast thing I would love to chat

(56:39):
with you about is another, it'sa combination of frequency and
cell work. Basically, there arestem cells. If you don't know
anything about stem cells,they're like little baby cells
in your body, and they have notdecided what they want to be
when they grow up.
And it's just like your kid,your kid could be a race car
driver or a veterinarian or apodcaster or lawyer. And the

(57:02):
stem cells the same way, you puthim in a guy's body and the
guy's got an injury, he can getdown to brass tacks and he can
make new kidney tissue. Ifyou've got a low functioning
kidney, he can make new fat, notsomething most people our age
want more of, but he could makenew fat, he could make new bone.
What he can really do thatpeople our age are very much
interested in is new cartilage,you got a bone on bone knee, you

(57:24):
wear out your knee from joggingtoo many years. Now you're
looking at a knee replacement,it can pump up that cartilage,
make new cartilage.
If we've ever seen, there's mypicture. This is a before and
after photo, you're supposed tohave a thick black line of
cartilage between your thighbone and your lower leg bones.
This lady had virtually no blackline because she'd worn out the

(57:44):
cartilage. She's driving hertires on a bold tire basically
here. But after the stem cellinjection, you can see that
thick black line indicative ofthe cartilage having pumped back
up.
These stem cells make newcartilage. It is absolutely
fascinating. There are basicallyzero side effects. They have
done this thing over and overagain in Europe, here in
America, zero side effects aslong as you keep a sterile

(58:06):
field. And pharma hates us,orthopedic surgeons hate us.
And the FDA, after allowing itto be done in our country in the
middle of the pandemic said, toobad, so sad, you're done. You're
taking way too much money awayfrom pharma and the surgeons.
We're not gonna let you do itanymore in America on an
experimental basis. And soeverybody was sort of doing a
back alley thing where they'relike, gonna go to my doctor and

(58:28):
see if I can talk him into it.And the doctor's like, don't
ask, don't tell, I'll do it foryou, but I'm not supposed to do
it for you.
But thank God for the state ofUtah, because about a year ago
in May, on my birthday weekendlast year, the state of Utah
said, you know what federalgovernment, this is a crock. The
way we remember high schoolscience class and civics

(58:48):
classes, if you were not giventhe power specifically, and it
was not granted to the federalgovernment, all the untalked
about powers, are reserved tothe states. Washington and
Lincoln never said you couldregulate stem cell. That was,
you know, that was before theirtime. So we think we have the
right to legislate health carein our state.
You can do what you wantfederally and you can say you

(59:10):
can't do it in the countryanymore. We're going to say as
long as it is not from abortedfetal tissue, as long as it's
from the umbilical cord, orsomething like that on a full
term healthy happy birth, youcan do whatever you want in our
state as long as you getinformed consent. And so that's
what we've been doing. Myhusband had a stem cell clinic
from 2016. Couldn't do anythingduring COVID, but we were
operating in most of thecountry.

(59:30):
Now we're back operating inUtah. And I'm telling you, Seth,
the stuff they're doing, I thinkthis was like Mayo Clinic, But
they had a guy, a surfer, littleold guy, he's got gray hair. He
took a header off his surfboardin San Diego right down the road
from me. He was a quadriplegicfor years. They dropped some
stem cell on his spinal cord.
ABC News is in his backyard04/02/2024. What is this guy

(59:55):
doing? He is walking around hisbackyard pool deck with a cane,
not a walker, a cane. How manyquadriplegics do you know, Seth,
are walking? Pretty crazy stuff.
They're using it to repair blowntendons. This was a racehorse.
He clipped his front flexortendon in his front leg, totally
severed the tendon with his backhoof when he was in a race. They

(01:00:17):
were going to shoot the horse onthe track. The owner said, No,
let's try stem cell therapy.
Maybe we can avoid a bullet inthe horse's brain. Not only did
they get the horse vertical andwalking, which would have been a
huge win, they actually ran thesame horse that blew out his
tendon in a 22 steeple jump fourmile race a year after the fact.

(01:00:37):
And he won. He didn't justfinish the race he won. So it's
incredible stuff.
Again, we're blessed to beliving in these scary times. But
for every scary application offrequencies of cellular things,
they can beam our head, they cangive us some new crazy lab made
disease. There is an equal andopposite body of research that
it is incumbent upon the freedomfighters who have an Einstein

(01:01:01):
brain that I do not have to getout in front of this so that we
can actually get this going forthe good of humanity and not for
evil purposes like all theevildoers want to do. If you
could queue up that last videoof the guy with the beard, this
is from the horse's mouth, theguy that we treated some years
ago, and you can sort of hearfrom his perspective how the

(01:01:21):
stem cells worked in his body.

Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
Yeah, for only three weeks, this is amazing. I could
turn my head left and rightwithout having to have a
chiropractic adjustment beforeand after. Daily, sometimes
multiple times a day, stress hotin the neck that would then lead
to a headache and make me a kindof grumpy person. Grumpy Gus was

(01:01:43):
a term used on one of myreviews. So I had to kinda like
moderate myself and eat moreaspirin.
Since the shots, zero. This isamazing. You know, I mean, I'm
talking twenty years I've beendealing with this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
So that was an actual patient. We met him in San
Francisco. He was a tech exec.He's like, alright, do my neck.
It's all locked up.
I'm gonna see if this works. Itworked. Called us back. He goes,
that worked brilliantly. Whereare you guys next weekend?
I'm like, oh, we're in SantaBarbara next week. And he goes,
I'm coming to do my low back.Calls us three days later, he's
like, now I can turn my headlike an owl and I can bend over
and palm the floor before he cantouch his knees. His low back

(01:02:25):
was so tight and jacked up. Hesaid, Where are you next week?
And I said Palm Springs, I loveyou, Dawn. But, you know, we can
do more than one shot at a time.I mean, we could continue to see
you every weekend until you dieor you could have ever many bad
joints you have left, we couldjust do them in one fell swoop.
So he laughed and he goes, Yeah,I was just guinea pigging
myself, making sure this stuffworks. But I'm bringing myself
back, you're going to do all therest of my joints, my knees, my

(01:02:46):
hips, my shoulders, and my wife,who is actually worse, she has
rheumatoid and osteoarthritis.
She can't even keep up with me.We treated him again for the
final time and his wife calledhim a week later. They're like,
don't call us, we'll call you.We're hiking the Great Wall Of
China for the next four months.So that got to be a running joke
at our office.
We go to do a follow-up and I'dhear this like, I'm like, are

(01:03:08):
you at Machu Picchu or the GreatWall Of China or the Egyptian
Pyramids? And you'd hear thepatient go, how'd you know? And
I'm like, because we told you totake it easy. And I'm betting
you're feeling great. And you'redoing what all the other
patients do and ignoring thedoctor's orders and hiking,
aren't you?
And they're like, Yeah, I'm inYosemite, you called it. Anyway,
again, there's no sense forpeople to be suffering with any

(01:03:29):
sort of any condition, whetherit's autoimmune,
neurodegenerative cancer orwhatever. There are
technologies. If you wanna learnmore about them, go to the
Healthy Living page on mywebsite at leadendas.com, reach
out, we'll give you a call,we'll walk you through whatever
your questions are. And thenSeth, my final call to action
for our audience here is if youhave the kind of brain that I

(01:03:50):
don't have, please, pleasecontinue to build on the work of
Kosniceyev and all of theseHungarian researchers with the
water and all the guys whoinvented the stem cell and
pulling it from the umbilicalcord, because we are at the
brink of a renaissance.
And boy, we need to get theresooner rather than later.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
No, I couldn't agree more. And I think that in
summary, you make a reallyimportant point. It's very easy
to focus on the negativeapplications of this technology.
But I believe that how God madethis world is that there's a
duality. There's good and evil.
There's up and down. There areopposites. And I think that

(01:04:29):
there is a a good to everythingbad that's being done. So, I
mean, imagine if the governmentwas saying, wow, we can use HARP
technology to improve the moodof our citizens. We can create a
happy country.
We can heal diseases. It's like,just imagine. But the good thing
is is I do believe that the thebalance of power is shifting,

(01:04:50):
and that there is a collectivestrength of just goodness and
virtue that's reemerging. And soI hope that we hope that we see
these things, coming out sooner.And so, Lee, always a pleasure
speaking with you.
Just you've got you've got sucha good energy about you, and and
I love having these talks. So Ilook forward to next time. I'll
make sure that your website linkis in the show description for

(01:05:11):
people to kind of follow alongand and go follow-up on a lot
these things that you're talkingabout. And, yeah, thank you
again for everything that you'redoing. Thank

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
you. Thank all the people in our tribe. We would be
living in Auschwitz, I think,right now, but for all the
pushback that the truth tellersand the people who hate
injustice put forth over thelast five years, and we're
winning. We've got good peoplein power now. Bobby Kennedy is
in charge of HHS instead of theevildoers.
He's a big fan of all this typetechnology from the frequency to
the stem cell to you name it. SoI think we're entering a new day

(01:05:43):
and age. Boy, it's great to bealive. And with that, I will
leave all of you. Seth, I knowyou got good stuff and puppies
in the house and kids.
And we're going be adopting anew puppy too here in a couple
of weeks. So there'll bepuppies, puppies everywhere and
rainbows and unicorns hopefullyin our future. And as always, it
was an honor to share yourplatform. Thanks so much for
having me on, and I look forwardto the next time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Absolutely. Thank you so much.
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