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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a
world gone mad. I'm your host,Seth Hulghouse. So my guest
today is a politician. And Ihave to admit, there's not a lot
of politicians that are willingto come on my show because most
of the politicians are boughtand sold, and they are not
really loyal to We The People.And so this person is Christine
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Anderson.
She's a a member of the EuropeanParliament. You've probably seen
her perhaps in in viral speecheswhere she's calling out the
globalist agenda in thesemeetings of these European
politicians where everyone elseis kinda looking a little bit
scared. Like, oh, is she reallysaying this? Well, yeah, she's
the one who's saying it. AndI've had her on before, and and
we've we've had some greatdiscussions.
And I really appreciate herperspective because she's
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someone that she's at the level,especially within Europe. If you
look at this globalist agendathat is trying to, as we'll talk
about in our interview today,trying to enslave humankind for
all eternity, like, just tokinda be blunt about it. She's
someone that has been trying tothwart and warn people about
this, and but she's also someonethat is very uniquely positioned
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to see this agenda because sheis in Europe, and she's seeing
what's happening in in her homecountry of Germany, but also
countries across Europe where alot of this agenda is so strong.
I mean, obviously, it's bad herein America, but you look at some
of these countries over inEurope, like the, you know,
cities like London, for instancefor instance. And here we have
in New York City.
It looks like there's gonna bea, an immigrant Muslim mayor,
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which is you know, we've got it,you know, pretty far along from,
you know, say, Giuliani as a,you know, conservative American,
you know, pro America. So nowyou have someone that's gonna be
pushing, you know, governmentowned grocery stores, you know,
very, very strong LGBTQ transagenda, the whole the whole kind
of thing of this, again, thisglobalist agenda that is
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destabilizing, especially theWestern nations, and of the
Western nations, especiallyAmerica, the country that I
think you maybe agree with me,I'd say, one of the last
bastions of freedom. And so intoday's interview, it's just
gonna be a a just a conversationabout where humanity is at, what
what Christine is observing,where she sees this heading, you
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know, who's winning this battlefor control, and what we can do
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to have you back on the show.Thank you so much for joining us
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today.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well, thank you for having me again.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
So as a member of the European Parliament, you, I
think, have a very uniqueperspective on Europe, but also
global affairs, considering alot of the global agendas are
coming out of Europe. And reallysad, I think since COVID, you
know, the the beginning of thepandemic, there has been this
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awakening of people, this youraverage person realizing that
there's something afoot. Thereis some sort of deeper, darker,
maybe perhaps sinister agendathat is battling against the
whole of mankind. And I'd saythat, you know, the past, say,
couple of months, you know,since Trump has got in, we've
seen a lot of changes happening,like, very quickly. You know,
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we're we're kind of at leaststarted and ended a Middle
Eastern war and, you know, ontop of so many other things.
And I just I I I don'tnecessarily have any particular
set of kind of questioning foryou, but more just I I've
enjoyed speaking to you beforebecause you're a deep thinker,
and you have a philosophicalapproach. I just wanted to see
from your perspective, where doyou see humanity at right now in
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this battle against some sort ofglobal totalitarian system?
Like, what what are you seeing?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Well, what I'm seeing is, they continue their fight
against freedom, democracy, andthe rule of law. And their end
goal is pretty much to strip usall of our fundamental rights
abolishing democracy. Becausethe point is simply this: what
is good for the people is notgood for the clobabalitarian
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misanthropists. But since we areliving in democracies, I mean,
they can just walk all over usand, you know, dictate to us
like they would in China or inNorth Korea. So they have chosen
a slightly different approach.
So what they're doing isactually they're telling us, you
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know, look, we really need tosave the planet and to do so,
you're going to have to cut backon your consumption, you have to
cut back on your carbon dioxideemissions and all of this. So
it's really, again, hugegaslighting, what is going on,
manipulation. And what they'retrying to achieve is that people
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will simply forget what itactually means to live in a
democracy, which is governmentof the people, for the people,
and by the people. They kind ofwant to replace that with
government of the globalitarianmisanthropists for the
cloballitary misanthropists andby the cloballitary
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misanthropists, but all thewhile carefully hiding that
that's what they're actuallytrying to establish. So the
stage we're in right now, ithasn't really been decided yet.
It's kind of like it could goeither way. And they were
realizing that too, just lookingat the election results around
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the world. I mean, you know,Donald Trump back in the White
House. Hallelujah. And and youalso see it in in in other
elections, like what we see inRomania.
Right? There was the, you know,Karim Czochescu. No one even
knew who he was. And here hewas, you know, coming in first,
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the the first round of thepresidential elections, and they
did not like that one bit. Andit's kinda like they want to see
people in power or in thesepositions that they have control
over.
And Carly and Trachasco,obviously, they didn't have
control over him, so that poseda threat to their agenda, just
as Donald Trump is. Right? Andit's not like that Donald Trump
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is out of control. It's Donald.They don't have control over
Donald Trump.
And that makes him kinda likethe enemy from their
perspective, just as it was withKarim Chochescu. So we are
seeing they are stepping uptheir game in trying to retain
the power to implement theseilliberal agendas around the
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world. And they were attackingus in pretty much every single
Western democracy. And to thestage we're at right now is it
could go it could go either way.But the people need to be
warned.
They are stepping up their game.They're not hiding it anymore. I
mean, annulling elections and,you know, bringing on the
lawfare against Donald Trump. Imean, they will try whatever it
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takes to, yeah, continue togaslight people, and to retain
their power. And that's that'swhat they're what they're out to
do to us.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
And so with this group and and you said a word
that I I couldn't understandwhat it was. Maybe I hadn't
heard is it something what wasthe word you used to refer to
these people?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Globalitarian Neanderpists.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Globalitarian Neanderpists.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Rather than you know, a lot of people call them
globalist elites.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
But I don't consider them to be elites. Yeah. So what
I did is global totalitarian,clobalitarian misanthropists.
Yeah. Mean, I really don't knowwhat to call them because I
don't even know who these peopleare.
But, you know, they are callingthe shots. But it's not Klaus
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Schwab doing that. It's notUrsula von der Leyen. It's it's
not Carney. It's not it's itwasn't Biden.
I mean, they're they're justpuppets. Right? Someone else is
calling the shots. And like Isaid, I have no idea who they
are. So I just, you know, callthem by their term so that
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everyone knows who I'm talkingabout, like I said, for lack of
a better word.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
That that's I'm glad you mentioned that too because I
because I oftentimes refer tothem as as the elites, but I
hate that term because it's it'slike well, it's like, oh, this
is an elite car. It means it'sit's the best and the the the
the highest quality, and it'salmost like they're the sub
humans. Right?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
So calling a misanthropist is more befitting.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
There you go. There you go. And and this this
organization, these these peopleand I I agree. It's so hard to
pinpoint. I mean, you havetraces of this and, you know,
you get into, say, certainfamilies and bloodlines, and but
it's it's difficult because eventhose things are very hidden.
And even the I think a lot ofthe names that we hear about,
people say, oh, it's theRothschilds. It's the
Rockefeller's. I think in a lotof ways, even they're just the
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front men. I think it's thepeople that we don't even know
who they are. And andultimately, I think it gets
into, you know, fallen angelsand evil.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
What's the most concerning thing about that is
actually we are see we see thishappening, like I said, around
the world, around the globe,especially in the western
democracies. I mean, you know,democracies. I mean, you know,
just look at the at theplandemic, you rightly called it
plandemic. You know, they wereliterally reading from the same
script. I mean, to the to the tothe words they use, you know, no
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one is safe until everyone issafe and, you know, protect, at
home, build back better.
They were literally reading fromthe same script. And, you know,
that simply does not happen.That all of these, you know,
different governments around theworld came up with the very same
idea and solution to thisproblem. Right? So that's just
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kinda like the the way it is.
And now I did we getdisconnected?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Nope. You're still here.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Oh, okay. Perfect. So, like I said, they were all
in lockstep, and that shouldreally concern us because that's
an indication as to we are atthis point, I mean, all the
people around the world, we arein the very same boat. They're
attacking all of us. They'reattacking all of our freedom,
all of our democracy, and all ofour fundamental rights and our
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rule of law.
They just wanna, you know,abolish it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
And looking at, you know, part of this, especially
speaking to to Europe, if youlook at how they've used this
weaponized migration of of, youknow, a lot of Africa, a lot of
the Middle East coming intoEurope. Here over in America,
it's a lot of South CentralAmerica. And, also, you have,
you know, a lot of people comingfrom, you know, same places
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they're coming into Europe. WhenI look at this idea of can we
can we save the future ofhumanity? Right?
We save the future of ofAmerica, of Germany, of France,
these different countries. Iit's almost like you you get to
a certain point where, like,have you entered the the road of
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no return? Right? Because if youlook at, say, some of the
European countries now, youknow, I see videos coming out,
whether it's, looking at city,you know, city of London or
different parts of Europe, youknow, beautiful cities that
fifty years ago were thesebeautiful cities that were
beacons of that Europeanculture, right, with with deep,
deep, deep heritage. Yeah.
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That culture is being lost, andand my concern is that is this
something that can even beundone? Even if the good people
say take control, it's it'salmost like once you once you
take something and and you putI'm not gonna I'm not gonna
refer them as poisonnecessarily, but if you put
poison into a pond, it's hard toactually undo that. Once you
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start mixing all this stufftogether, it's hard to undo
that. And, obviously, in Europe,you're seeing it. You're seeing
this weaponized mass migrationand these corrupt politicians
just opening their borderssimilar to, you know, to what
Joe Biden did.
So how do you make sense of thatgoing forward? And and how do
you do do you see a pathforward, or is Europe in a place
where it's maybe a little bitit's got a little you know, too
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late, too little, basically?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah. Well, first of all, we we kinda need to take a
look at and, you know, kind ofunpack that. Why would they even
do something like this? I mean,you know, you really don't only
have, like you need only need,like, two functioning brain
cells to understand. If youflood any society with a vast
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amount or vast number, a largenumber of people that are
culturally incompatible withyour own society, with your
values, what you stand for, itcan't work.
There is no way it could everwork. It would work if you had a
strong police state, you know,keeping the peace, but that's
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not what our societies are like.So the question really is, why
are they even doing that? Andthat is the question that we
need to answer first. And Ithink the answer to that
question is simply this.
We are I mean, they're attackingus on every level possible. And
these are attacks our identity,you know, whether it's our
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cultural identity or nationalidentity. They're not even
stopping to attack our sexualidentity. I mean, who we are,
you know, in the core of ourbeings, our sexual identity,
they don't even shy away fromtaking that away from us by
making people believe, you know,yeah, you can change your sex.
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No, you can't.
You I mean, what you can do isyou can, you know, dress up as
the other sex. You can hack upyour body to resemble the other
sex, but you will never ever beable to change your biological
sex. On the contrary, you will,like I said, just be damaged.
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You will be a lifelong patientfor the pharmaceutical industry.
Right?
And that's what they pretty muchaim for. But it's an attack on
our our identity. And if youdon't know who you are anymore
because your identity has beenso watered down, you know, and
if you can be anything you wantand you can change that on any
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day, any given given day, whatare you gonna be in the end?
You're gonna be nothing. Youdon't have you are not an
individual anymore with a uniqueidentity.
And that's exactly what they're,as far as I'm concerned, what
they're aiming for. You know, ifyou don't know who you are, you
don't have roots, you don'treally, you know, relate to
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anything of significance in yourlife anymore, then they have you
exactly where they need you tobe. You know, just a a male
mindless kind of malleable mass.You be a part of that, and they
can shuffle you around any whichway they need you to be. And
that makes you susceptible tojust carrying out orders without
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really thinking about, you know,is that the right thing to do or
is that meaningful what I'mdoing here?
So that's that's really whatyou're trying to get us. And,
yeah, you will have would haveto say that is what the ultimate
enslavement of all human beingson the globe is is probably
boiled down to, and that's whatthey're trying to achieve.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
And so looking at the you mentioned you kinda, like,
ask the questions of, okay. Whyare they doing this? Right? Why
are they and and and the oneword that came to mind for me
was destabilization. Right?
And if you look at if you if youstudy how Rome fell, as an
example, one of most powerfulempires that's that's ever
existed, one of the main thingsthat that caused its fall there
are multiple factors, you know,corrupt politicians, the
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debasement of their currency,etcetera. But one of the big
things was just the open bordersand the mixing of cultures. And,
you know, one example from fromRome is that in times of peace,
those cultures can coexist. Butwhen there's, when there's
instability, when there is war,then you have every culture
reverts to their cultural norms,and and they tribe together to
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protect themselves. And Isuspect that that's exactly what
they're trying to do is createthat same thing.
It's like, you know, if I go inmy backyard and I take two
different types of ants, thoseants might be perfectly they
exist perfectly on their own.Say, like, the fire ants and the
other ants. Like, they'rethey're perfect. But if you take
them, you put them in the samejar and shake it up, they'll go
to war with each other. And andI think that's what that's what
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a part of it is is that they'rethey're using humans against
humans to really to depopulateand destroy cultures.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Absolutely. You know what? The point is this. I mean,
it it is it is a reality. We areliving in a world with limited
resources.
Resources. And as long as youcan provide, you know, for
everyone, then, you know,nothing's gonna happen. But
living in a world with limitedresources, it they're not only
limited, they're on top of thatare being made scares, you know,
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deliberately, like, you know,the deindustrialization that is
going on in Germany because wedo need to save the planet,
right? Energy prices, they'reskyrocketing. So that, you know,
puts more stress on theresources available and, you
know, how they are trying to,yeah, pretty much get the
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farmers to give up their landand, you know, slaughter their
cattle because they're producingcarbon dioxide.
Can you imagine? So, I mean, youknow, all of this going on. But
if you have a world with limitedresources, and eventually, if
you have to fight, you know, forthese resources, and that's
really what life is all aboutwhen it comes down to it. It's
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about survival. So then peoplewill, you know, always try to
connect with their own kind,whether it's their own ethnicity
or whatever kind of parameteryou choose to make out your own
group.
But that's when you have these,yeah, pretty much tribalism,
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that's what it leads to. And,yeah, that's what they're
they're they're literallyimporting into our societies. So
you have, like, these thesedifferent tribes, if you want.
And the only way you can keeppeace in that is with a strong
police force. And that seems tobe another motive for them to
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bring all, you know, millionsand millions of these so called
refugee refugees or refugeeseekers, rather, to cause that
kind of mayhem.
And then, you know, the peoplewill voluntarily scream for more
police, more order that, youknow, the authority that's being
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exercised in. So eventually itwill lead up to that. And that's
pretty much where they want us,in a police state where we rely
on the authorities to keep peacein our society. But the point is
this, we had a peaceful society.And to me, it was like, you
know, the biggest accomplishmentof a civilized society is to
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have peace in the public sphere.
And we had that. We really did.I mean, women in Germany, we
could have left the houseanytime, whether it was daytime
or nighttime, you know. Itreally wasn't wasn't a big
problem, big issue. It now is.
We are no longer safe. And onceagain, when you get to that
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point that the people it's justa matter of time until people
will start calling for moresurveillance and more police and
more, you know, whatever, andthat's where they where they
want us to be.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Now you you mentioned life in Germany, and how have
you seen that life change? Youknow, let's just say from
growing up into your youryounger years to now, like, what
is what is life like in inGermany, especially in some of
the the bigger, more populatedcities in Germany?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It's, well, it's it's surely slowly, but surely, well,
last years, it's gotten morefast, but it's into a hellhole.
I remember when I when I grewup, you know, just so we were a
secular state. Nobody cared whowhat what the religion of of,
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you know, the others were. Sothe only way we saw this or the
only indication we had of thiswas in school when the
Protestants and Catholics, youknow, went to different classes
pertaining to their religion.That was like, you know, the
only thing you could actuallysee, that there were two major
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religions in the country.
But now it's like, so no onecared about religion. It didn't
mean that I didn't play with aboy just because he was Catholic
and I was Protestant. It didn'tmatter. It did not matter at all
in our lives anymore. Now,however, this religion all of a
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sudden, you know, it's prevalenteverywhere.
You cannot go without a singlehour on any given day without
being confronted with religion.But now it's not, you know, the
the Christian faith, it's alwaysIslam. It's Whether they pray on
the streets or whether you hear,you know, the mosques or
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whatever it is. Right? So thisis really concerning.
And, sadly, but I have to say, Ino longer feel safe in my
country. Women are retreatingfrom public spaces such as, you
know, you might remember 2015,the New Year's Eve celebration
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in Cologne, where, I mean,literally a thousand men, you
know, ganged up to, know, molestsexually molest hundreds and
hundreds of women, and theycouldn't do a darn thing about
it. The way they went aboutdoing is ganging up with them,
isolating them from from theirfriends, and they were just, you
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know, like attacking them,grabbing them, penetrating them
with whatever they, you know,could think of. So it's really
scary. And we are now discussingin Germany publicly if there
should be separate carriages ontrains just for women so they
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could feel safe.
What we're actually doing is weare implementing the lift sexual
apartheid regime from theseIslam countries that we are
importing. That's what we'redoing. And on the altar altar of
diversity and kindness and whathave you, non intolerance, we're
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actually sacrificing our liberaland free societies just so we
won't get called racist orIslamophobes. But it's actually
worse what we're seeing. It'sour our societies are turning
into brutal societies.
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It's, you know, dehumanizing.It's it's just a travesty what
what we're seeing. And I mean,take there is now we're talking
every single day in Germany.There are two brutal gang rapes
occurring every single day. Two.
And when I'm talking brutal gangrapes, I mean brutal gang rapes.
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These women are not just notjust being raped. They're
literally beaten within an inchof their life. Right? And this
is now considered, or we'rekinda, you know, supposed to
accept that.
I will never, never in my lifewill I accept that, and I will
fight it with with everythingI've got. Right? Then add to
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that, we have these random knifeattacks. They're no longer
happening on on a daily basis.They're happening on an hourly
basis now.
So there's, like, twelve,thirteen, fourteen, fifteen just
random knife attacks. Whereveryou go, you know, you can be a
victim of that too. There is noindication as to when it will
happen, who will, you know, bethe perpetrator. It they're just
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there, and, you know, they'retheir start. So, yes, we are
losing our our free liberalintolerant societies.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
It just it's so it's it's beyond sadness. It's it's
so Yes. Guess sadness is is, Iguess just just to think, like,
where our society has has cometo. Right? And that it's it's
like to step to step back andlook back even fifty years or a
hundred years and look at, youknow, how every aspect of our
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society has changed.
Our our our morals, our, youknow, the the kind of acceptance
of religion, the faith in Godused be almost universal within
mankind to believe in a higherpower. The this all of this is
just it's just changed ourculture. What's popular? You
look at what's trending. I knowa lot of the The United States
and and, you know, Hollywood andthe music industry is is used as
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a weapon to to really kind of,you know, kinda push filth onto
the whole world, the culturalfilth of the the the modern rap
industry.
And, you know, you can't watch aTV show these days without like,
the first episode of any series,there's always some sort of of
homosexual scene. It's likeYeah. Even, like, you know,
like, great It's like the firstepisode, they're always gonna
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shove that in there. It's justlike, what has happened
Speaker 2 (27:40):
to us? That's just the that's just the thing, you
know? I mean, my my kind of myunderstanding is kinda, you
know, live and let live, butplease do not shove it down our
throats. And that's exactlywhat's happening. You're being
confronted with this ideology,you know, whether it's a
transgender or whatever it is.
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You're being confronted withthis every single second of
every day of your life. Like yousaid, you cannot turn on a TV
show without being, you know,confronted with that and with
having, you know, this stuffbeing shoved down your throat.
And people are sick and tired ofit. And it's what they're trying
to achieve by shoving it downour throats is so that this
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would be somehow recognized asnormal. But it's it's not
normal.
That is not how the vastmajority of people live their
lives. You know? Yes. There area few people that do choose this
lifestyle. Well, let them.
I don't care, you know, if theydo it behind, you know,
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wherever, but do not shove itdown my throat. And the thing is
simply this, you can identify aswhatever you want. I really
don't care. The point is this.You do not have the right to
make me part of your delusion.
I mean, just think back in thedays, you know, when someone
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identified as Napoleon, societydidn't bend bend back over
backwards to just, you know,make you acceptable and to
affirm your delusion. No. Youwere being treated because you
were suffering from a delusion.But now it's not only expected
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from us, it's now punishable bylaw if we refuse to participate
in your delusion by referring toa biological man as a she.
Right?
Jordan Peterson is completelyright about that. That is
compelled speech, and it makesme complicit in a delusion that
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I do not want to be part of. Sothat's, you know, where we
really have to draw the line.Identify as whatever you want. I
do not care, but do not make mepart of your delusion.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
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And you mentioned how thesethese a lot of these things have
become law. And so, you know,you're one of the very few,
people within the politicalarena that I think I can have
even have on my show and havethese conversations with. But
you obviously you're bumpingelbows with politicians around
the world. You know, I knowyou're in Canada right now. You
you you have a speaking tourthere, and you're you've got all
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kinds of flack and negativityfrom, you know, previous
political leaders in Canada.
And, oh, you're, you know,you're some extremist coming.
You're not welcome in thecountry. It's like, well, this
is insane. But, you know, as weget into the the idea of these
politicians, do what do youthink is controlling them? Are
are are there politicians thatyou know that they want to speak
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up and maybe that they're scaredof the backlash?
Or like, because so many of thethings that are happening in our
our entire world are beingpushed by politicians. And and I
suspect a lot of them are arebeing controlled by blackmail
and who knows what else. But whyhow is it that the politicians
have become so corrupted thatthey are destroying the very
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nations and and states andpeople that they're supposed to
be looking out for?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah. That's that's actually a good question. You
know, especially once you knowthat, you know, behind the
world, closed doors, they'rehaving an entirely different
tune, you know, to a lot of thethings that are going on. So but
what would prompt them to, youknow, just kind of play along
and not speak up? That it's avariety of reasons.
(33:05):
So I'm pretty sure there is, youknow, some of them that really
that that can be blackmailedwith something in their lives or
whatever. But that's that's justa very very few. The vast
majority of those that, youknow, advocate for these insane
agendas is a very simple one,it's profit. They're either
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profiting from it directly or,you know, their families are
profiting from it, so that isone part of the reason. Then
there is another group of MPs,MEPs, like the parliamentarians.
They were just so glad tofinally belong to the club,
right? They get invitations toneo buffets or, you know, to get
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play golf or whatever. Sothey're so hard to belong to the
club. They do not wanna riskthat, and they would risk it if
they realized that that whateverthey were advocating for was
actually not in the bestinterest of the people, and they
would say that publicly. So theyjust keep their mouth shut.
So like I said, it's kind ofhard to say why they would do
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that, But there is a very fewpeople of them that they know
perfectly well, you know, whatwe're doing is not the right
thing. But they do it anywaybecause, like I said, it's so
great to finally be part of thatclub that they don't wanna risk
it. So, and unfortunately, thereis only a very small number of
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elected representatives in theparliaments around the world
that actually do speak up andthat do advocate for the best
the best of the people of thebest interest and serve in their
best interest. So yeah. But it'sit's beyond me why you would
serve anyone other than the onesyou got elected by and the ones
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you are paid by, by the way.
Well, why why you would even dothat? That is actually a big
betrayal of the people.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
And so looking at the future, do you have hope? And if
you do have hope for the future,what gives you that hope?
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Oh, of course. I mean, if I didn't have hope, I I
wouldn't be able to do this.Right? I would just probably,
you know, withdraw and, youknow, roll over and kind of play
dead, whatever. No.
No. No. There there isabsolutely hope, and we must
never lose that hope. Because ifyou look back in history, you
know, truth and justice, italways prevailed in the end. It
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might have been, you know, astruggle, but generations before
us has gone through thatstruggle too.
And the circumstances were wayworse than what we are up
against today. Right? I mean,our forefathers, they were
literally spilling their bloodto wrestle the the power from
former elites. So, yeah, you youmust never give up hope. So what
(36:14):
is really or giving me hope atthis point is to see that people
are waking up, people arewisening up to what is going on.
And that's probably one of thebest things that came out of
COVID, is that large and vastamounts of people realized what
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the underlying, the ulteriormotive was. It was never about
breaking any waves. It wasalways about breaking people,
and that's why they implementedall of these measures and
turning fundamental rights intoprivileges that the government
can grant or withhold dependingon how you behave. So a lot of
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people woke up to that. A lot ofpeople saw through that BS and
called it out.
Initially it was a few, but thenumbers grew and that's what
really gives me hope. And I'vebeen saying that like years ago.
My hope actually rested on theone hand with the Americans,
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with the American people,because Americans, they have
such a much more profoundunderstanding of freedom. You
don't find it to that of anextent in in Europe. So my hope
kinda rested with the Americanpeople that they would not take
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this any longer and that wouldeventually stand up, which they
are doing now.
And my hope also rests with theEastern European countries. I
mean, they've lived throughtotalitarianism. And they
recognize totalitarianism whenthey see it. And they are seeing
it now. They're recognizing themechanisms and, you know, all of
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the the agendas that have beenimplemented back then under the
pretense of, you know, it's thebest for the people.
So they're seeing through thatBS. They have learned how to
read newspaper. It's notimportant what the newspaper
says. The important thing iswhat doesn't it say and what is
what is it saying between thelines. So they're realizing that
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and they are beginning to riseup and speak up.
So that's where my hope lies.And of course my hope lies
within the people that haven'tforgotten what freedom,
democracy, and the rule of lawis all about. And I mean,
notably there, or that stood outreally among all of the protests
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that were organized, were theCanadian Freedom Truckers,
right? So that really gave me alot of hope. Just, you know, the
signal that I kind of needed.
Well, not all is lost and myfight is not for nothing. People
are actually rising up andthat's the good thing. So yeah,
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absolutely, I have hope. That'swhy I continue to do what I've
been doing to pretty much shinea light on the sinister agendas
they're trying to implementaround the world and calling
just calling them out on it. Soand that's I encourage people to
do that because totalitarianism,that's that's the interesting
(39:30):
thing about that.
Which, by the way, that is thedifference even between a a
dictatorship andtotalitarianism. A dictator, the
only thing he's concerned aboutis staying in power, but he
doesn't really care what youreally think about him. You are
not allowed to say what youthink about about the dictator.
You you can as long as you keepit to yourself, he does not he
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does not care what you thinkabout it. Totalitarianism, on
the other hand, they need tocontrol your thinking.
You are not even allowed tothink in different ways than
that what what they give you asthe narrative. So that that's,
like, the the difference. Buttotalitarianism only works if no
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one contradicts and if no onechallenges it. So every single
dissenting voice will break thatcycle on which totalitarianism
actually functions. And sothat's why they're so adamant
about shutting us up,criminalizing us, persecuting
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us.
I mean, you're going to jail nowfor mean tweets. Can you
imagine? So, but they're doingthat because they understand
they need to silence thedissenting voices. And if they
fail to do that, then they failin erecting their totalitarian
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regime. So please speak up.
Never allow them to dictate toyou what you can think and what
you can say. That's pretty muchall there is. And always keep in
mind compliance and silenceenable tyrants. So speak up.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
I'm glad you went to that because I was gonna ask,
what is your advice for people?Right? You know, for the average
person that's watching this andthinking they can feel this
coming in. They see it creepingin. What the advice is?
And and, actually, I'll I'll saya quick thing is that you
mentioned the people that camefrom Eastern Europe that lived
under under communism,especially, you know, Soviet
Union, and how they can see it.It's interesting because one of
(41:42):
my neighbors, lovely, lovelyfamily, I was talking to the
woman, and she's she's at thegrandmother age now. And she
was, you know, talking to me,and I found out she was from
Eastern Europe, and she hadlived under communism before.
And, she's here in America,obviously. She's my neighbor.
And, she said, you know, I canfeel it in my bones that
communism is creeping intoAmerica. She goes, it's hard to
(42:03):
describe. She goes, I felt itten, fifteen years ago in this
country. I could feel the sameentity that was ruling in Europe
is now taking a lot of, powerand and holding power even here
in America.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
It's yeah. And, you know, that that that just that's
what what separates us frompeople that actually have lived
in a totalitarian regime. Theyknow. They know perfectly well.
What we suffer from in in theWestern world, the western
democracies, if you want, wehave become spoiled, rotten
(42:41):
brats.
We no longer put any value onfreedom, democracy, and a rule
of law.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
It's your average American too.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Yeah. We kinda grew up with it. It was always there.
And we have somehow come tobelieve it's always been there
and it's always gonna be there.And we've completely forgotten,
no, it had to be wrestled fromthe former elites once in in
brutal and bloody fights.
And if you if you don't defendit, then it will slip away. As
(43:12):
Juan Reginald said, you know,freedom is only one generation
away or is only one generationfrom becoming extinct, something
like that. So that's absolutelytrue. So if you wanna continue
to live in freedom, democracy,and a rule of law, you have to
get up and do something aboutit. You have to defend it and
(43:32):
fight for it every single day.
And you need to call out thosethat are threatening it. And
it's at this moment, our freedomof democracy and our rule of law
is being threatened by the onesthat we elected to govern us.
And if people don't begin tounderstand that, then yeah, we
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are going to be in very bigtrouble. And, again, given the
psyche the technical means thathave at their disposal nowadays,
we are not only talking aboutforty years of Eastern Germany
or seventy years of of SovietUnion, we will be talking about
a damn long time.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Yeah. I I couldn't agree more. Like, that's the
thing is that because before,you would have tyranny in
certain countries, but you alsohad freedom in the other
countries, and it created thisperspective that, you know,
people it's like, why, you know,why in China, for instance? You
know, China which I've I've youknow, that was what it was for
me even though, like, I grew upin a very simple Midwestern home
(44:33):
in America. You know, great,great childhood, lived on, you
know, near the farm and and grewup and playing in the mud and
swimming in the river and andthese beautiful things.
And but for me, there's thisturning point in in my life.
And, actually, what it was forme is I in my in college, I had
met this guy that was a nicereally nice guy who's he was on
I think he was on a full ridescholarship for his master's at
(44:55):
a prestigious university inAmerica, and he's from China.
And he was a younger guy, and Ifound out he had spent eight
years in a forced labor camp. Sohe had spent eight years, like,
literally being tortured,electrocuted. Now for him, was
because he was a Falun Gongpractitioner, which is one of
the, you know, kind of religionsand belief systems that the CCP
has really targeted.
(45:15):
Right? But it's also it'sChristianity. It's it's really
any belief system that thecommunists don't control. Yeah.
But that's why they they have tokeep they have to close off that
thought so much so that youdon't have these examples of the
other countries.
They say they can't see whatlife is like in a free country,
because it's the idea thatbecomes a cancer to the
totalitarian system, the idea ofwhat freedom should look like.
(45:38):
And Yeah. So we've always hadthat, but I write I you you said
that if we can't escape this,you know, we'll be under this
rule for a damn long time. Yep.And that's my concern too
because what we're what we'refacing is not a single country
following the tyranny, but we'resay we're facing Exactly.
The whole world following thetyranny and one that has the
technology to build a a globaltechnocratic system where
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everyone is enslaved. And that'sthat and that's truly what we're
up against.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah. And that's that is the most scary part of it
all. You know? If it was one ortwo or three countries going
broke. You know?
The people of these countries,they would have, you know, the
justified expectation thateventually, you know, someone is
gonna step in and put a stop tothis tyranny. But now we're all
(46:28):
in the same boat. Who do youthink is gonna show up and help
you? It's not gonna be theChinese. It's it's not gonna be
North Korea, and it's not gonnabe Russia either, to be honest.
So we are all in they are inlockstep. It's happening
everywhere. So it's it's up tous. We, the people, need to
(46:49):
fight this. There isn't gonna beanyone coming this time around.
Trust me. They're all in cahootswith one another.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Especially if America falls. As much as America has,
you know, a a very corruptedgovernment and a corrupted
military industrial complex, andwe've been doing regime changes
all over with the CIA and colorrevolutions. And we've certainly
done our fair share of badthings. However, America has
been a beacon of hope. You know,you look at the second
(47:20):
amendment, the first amendment,the constitution, you know, the
American people, the the me's,the men in America, the women in
America, I think, do representhope.
But if America falls if Americafalls, then the whole world
falls into into darkness Yes.For it could be a thousand years
of darkness before somethingchanges.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yes. So, yeah, I I really hope that the American
people continue to do the rightthing. I mean, you know,
reelecting Donald Trump in theWhite House, that that that that
that isn't the the the victory.You know? It was a victory, but
it it doesn't stop there.
So the next election comearound, they're faced with the
(48:01):
same problem again. You know? Ifthey once again elect one of the
club ballet or the puppet one ofthe puppets of the club ballet
giant misanthropists, you know,they're gonna be right back at
square one. So, yeah, you'reabsolutely right. If America
falls, if the American people nolonger come up with the strength
(48:22):
to do the right thing and electsomeone who is actually fighting
and fending for the people andfor the for The US constitution,
then, yeah, the whole world isgonna be in in big, big trouble.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more. So
this is really it's it's arally. It's a call to arms for
people really around the world,especially here in America where
where I'm focused. But Yeah.
That we we have to stand up. Wehave to speak up. We we cannot
be silenced, because yeah. Ifit's we're we're on the we're on
the precipice. That's the thingis that we are truly on the prep
(49:00):
precipice of a a very, very,very long time where generations
and generations after us willlive under a slave system.
And and and it's it's it'sfrightening, but there's also
hope. But it's still it's stillvery frightening.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Oh, yeah. That absolutely is. And, you know, to
say that, that's just the thing.I mean, that's exactly how
totalitarianism works. You know,like, if you've seen that in in
during the pandemic.
And people, they just, you know,complied with whatever word was
asked of them. Right? Putting onmasks or taking an mRNA shot,
(49:36):
staying at home, and lettinggranny die all by herself out of
fear she would contract COVID.Right? I mean, that in and of
itself, that was that thatprobably the most cruelest thing
I've ever heard.
And I'm pretty sure that all ofthese elderlies that did die,
(49:57):
you know, all alone, and, youknow, completely lonely,
probably they died ofloneliness, they would have
gladly taken the risk ofpossibly catching COVID if it
had meant to see their lovedones just one more time. Right?
So I mean, totally ridiculouswhere we were all going with
(50:18):
this. Yeah, totalitarianismworks on the fear of people. And
I do understand that a lot ofpeople, they complied out of
fear of what the governmentmight do to them, when in
reality, they should be way moreafraid of what the government
(50:39):
will do to each and one of themif they continued to comply.
You know, they would have justtaken it one step at a time, and
they would have tightened thethumb screws even tighter each
term. Right? So, yeah, like Isaid, if you just comply because
(51:01):
you're afraid of yourgovernment, well, you have no
idea what you have coming if youcontinue to comply. You have no
idea what they're actuallycapable of and what they will do
if you continue to comply.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
I couldn't agree more. I think that it's it's a
good message for us to to kindof wrap up on is just that exact
message. It's just it's it'sreally a wake up call of where
we're at and what will happen ifwe comply, and what happens if
we just get lulled back into oursilence and our comfort, which
is that that's really it's beenan it's it's been a Yeah. It's
been a parasite to the Americanculture. This this Yes.
(51:35):
Culture of comfort and andfootball and entertainment and
bread and circuses as we'veExactly. Been become distracted.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
And and and add fear to fear to this. Right? People
in fear, they're kept in thisconstant, however irrational
that fear is. But if you havethat constant fear, you know,
they can do whatever with you.You know, you will grasp any
straw that they're giving toyou, and and you will gladly
embrace it as, you know, a goodthing.
(52:05):
But as Albert Camus once said,in order to defy an unfree
world, you yourself have tobecome so absolutely free that
your very existence is an act ofrebellion. That's that's a
pretty powerful statement. So donot be afraid. As long as you're
(52:26):
afraid, then they have powerover you. Take the power away.
Don't be afraid anymore. Don'tbe afraid.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Well, there you go. Well, Christine, thank you.
Thank you for doing what you'redoing, being fearless, amidst
all the difficulties I'm sureyou're facing every day. Your
voice is important. And,hopefully, this conversation is
was helpful for people to, Ithink, kinda stir them a little
bit.
Say, hey. Wake up. Wake up. Thisis what's coming. But also to
what what you've just reminded,we cannot have fear.
(52:57):
We cannot we cannot bow down. Wecannot comply because everything
is on the line here. And I Iappreciate what you've been
doing to get that message out.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Yeah. Well, that's, you know, the bit I can do. And
I hope to to make peopleunderstand and inspire them to
also speak up and not besilenced any longer.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
And, lastly, is there anything that people that you
would like to kinda directpeople to in any whether it's
following you on social media orany website, you know, what can
people do to to support whatyou're doing?
Speaker 2 (53:30):
Well, the biggest support or the biggest way of
supporting me would actually todo what I what I just asked of
you. Do not be silenced anymore.Speak up, and just, you know,
let your government know thatyou will no longer just, you
know, tag along and, you know,be complacent with whatever they
have in store for you, that youhave a mind of your own, and
(53:54):
that is actually you that is incharge of running the country
and not the government. Thegovernment was elected by you to
do your bidding. So make themsee that they have to do your
bidding.
And other than that, yeah, itwould be nice if you could give
me a follow on social media.Just Google me, and you'll
stumble across all my socialmedia accounts. And just spread
(54:18):
the word, and don't be silenced.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
Thank you so much, Christine. It it's such a
pleasure speaking with you.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Thank you again for having me. It was a pleasure to
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Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a
world gone mad. I'm your host,Seth Hulghouse. So my guest
today is a politician. And Ihave to admit, there's not a lot
of politicians that are willingto come on my show because most
of the politicians are boughtand sold, and they are not
really loyal to We The People.And so this person is Christine
(00:36):
Anderson.
She's a a member of the EuropeanParliament. You've probably seen
her perhaps in in viral speecheswhere she's calling out the
globalist agenda in thesemeetings of these European
politicians where everyone elseis kinda looking a little bit
scared. Like, oh, is she reallysaying this? Well, yeah, she's
the one who's saying it. AndI've had her on before, and and
we've we've had some greatdiscussions.
And I really appreciate herperspective because she's
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someone that she's at the level,especially within Europe. If you
look at this globalist agendathat is trying to, as we'll talk
about in our interview today,trying to enslave humankind for
all eternity, like, just tokinda be blunt about it. She's
someone that has been trying tothwart and warn people about
this, and but she's also someonethat is very uniquely positioned
(01:19):
to see this agenda because sheis in Europe, and she's seeing
what's happening in in her homecountry of Germany, but also
countries across Europe where alot of this agenda is so strong.
I mean, obviously, it's bad herein America, but you look at some
of these countries over inEurope, like the, you know,
cities like London, for instancefor instance. And here we have
in New York City.
It looks like there's gonna bea, an immigrant Muslim mayor,
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which is you know, we've got it,you know, pretty far along from,
you know, say, Giuliani as a,you know, conservative American,
you know, pro America. So nowyou have someone that's gonna be
pushing, you know, governmentowned grocery stores, you know,
very, very strong LGBTQ transagenda, the whole the whole kind
of thing of this, again, thisglobalist agenda that is
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destabilizing, especially theWestern nations, and of the
Western nations, especiallyAmerica, the country that I
think you maybe agree with me,I'd say, one of the last
bastions of freedom. And so intoday's interview, it's just
gonna be a a just a conversationabout where humanity is at, what
what Christine is observing,where she sees this heading, you
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goldwithseth.com. Christine, itis such a pleasure and an honor
to have you back on the show.Thank you so much for joining us
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today.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well, thank you for having me again.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
So as a member of the European Parliament, you, I
think, have a very uniqueperspective on Europe, but also
global affairs, considering alot of the global agendas are
coming out of Europe. And reallysad, I think since COVID, you
know, the the beginning of thepandemic, there has been this
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awakening of people, this youraverage person realizing that
there's something afoot. Thereis some sort of deeper, darker,
maybe perhaps sinister agendathat is battling against the
whole of mankind. And I'd saythat, you know, the past, say,
couple of months, you know,since Trump has got in, we've
seen a lot of changes happening,like, very quickly. You know,
(04:58):
we're we're kind of at leaststarted and ended a Middle
Eastern war and, you know, ontop of so many other things.
And I just I I I don'tnecessarily have any particular
set of kind of questioning foryou, but more just I I've
enjoyed speaking to you beforebecause you're a deep thinker,
and you have a philosophicalapproach. I just wanted to see
from your perspective, where doyou see humanity at right now in
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this battle against some sort ofglobal totalitarian system?
Like, what what are you seeing?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Well, what I'm seeing is, they continue their fight
against freedom, democracy, andthe rule of law. And their end
goal is pretty much to strip usall of our fundamental rights
abolishing democracy. Becausethe point is simply this: what
is good for the people is notgood for the clobabalitarian
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misanthropists. But since we areliving in democracies, I mean,
they can just walk all over usand, you know, dictate to us
like they would in China or inNorth Korea. So they have chosen
a slightly different approach.
So what they're doing isactually they're telling us, you
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know, look, we really need tosave the planet and to do so,
you're going to have to cut backon your consumption, you have to
cut back on your carbon dioxideemissions and all of this. So
it's really, again, hugegaslighting, what is going on,
manipulation. And what they'retrying to achieve is that people
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will simply forget what itactually means to live in a
democracy, which is governmentof the people, for the people,
and by the people. They kind ofwant to replace that with
government of the globalitarianmisanthropists for the
cloballitary misanthropists andby the cloballitary
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misanthropists, but all thewhile carefully hiding that
that's what they're actuallytrying to establish. So the
stage we're in right now, ithasn't really been decided yet.
It's kind of like it could goeither way. And they were
realizing that too, just lookingat the election results around
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the world. I mean, you know,Donald Trump back in the White
House. Hallelujah. And and youalso see it in in in other
elections, like what we see inRomania.
Right? There was the, you know,Karim Czochescu. No one even
knew who he was. And here hewas, you know, coming in first,
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the the first round of thepresidential elections, and they
did not like that one bit. Andit's kinda like they want to see
people in power or in thesepositions that they have control
over.
And Carly and Trachasco,obviously, they didn't have
control over him, so that poseda threat to their agenda, just
as Donald Trump is. Right? Andit's not like that Donald Trump
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is out of control. It's Donald.They don't have control over
Donald Trump.
And that makes him kinda likethe enemy from their
perspective, just as it was withKarim Chochescu. So we are
seeing they are stepping uptheir game in trying to retain
the power to implement theseilliberal agendas around the
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world. And they were attackingus in pretty much every single
Western democracy. And to thestage we're at right now is it
could go it could go either way.But the people need to be
warned.
They are stepping up their game.They're not hiding it anymore. I
mean, annulling elections and,you know, bringing on the
lawfare against Donald Trump. Imean, they will try whatever it
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takes to, yeah, continue togaslight people, and to retain
their power. And that's that'swhat they're what they're out to
do to us.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
And so with this group and and you said a word
that I I couldn't understandwhat it was. Maybe I hadn't
heard is it something what wasthe word you used to refer to
these people?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Globalitarian Neanderpists.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Globalitarian Neanderpists.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Rather than you know, a lot of people call them
globalist elites.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
But I don't consider them to be elites. Yeah. So what
I did is global totalitarian,clobalitarian misanthropists.
Yeah. Mean, I really don't knowwhat to call them because I
don't even know who these peopleare.
But, you know, they are callingthe shots. But it's not Klaus
(09:38):
Schwab doing that. It's notUrsula von der Leyen. It's it's
not Carney. It's not it's itwasn't Biden.
I mean, they're they're justpuppets. Right? Someone else is
calling the shots. And like Isaid, I have no idea who they
are. So I just, you know, callthem by their term so that
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everyone knows who I'm talkingabout, like I said, for lack of
a better word.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
That that's I'm glad you mentioned that too because I
because I oftentimes refer tothem as as the elites, but I
hate that term because it's it'slike well, it's like, oh, this
is an elite car. It means it'sit's the best and the the the
the highest quality, and it'salmost like they're the sub
humans. Right?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
So calling a misanthropist is more befitting.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
There you go. There you go. And and this this
organization, these these peopleand I I agree. It's so hard to
pinpoint. I mean, you havetraces of this and, you know,
you get into, say, certainfamilies and bloodlines, and but
it's it's difficult because eventhose things are very hidden.
And even the I think a lot ofthe names that we hear about,
people say, oh, it's theRothschilds. It's the
Rockefeller's. I think in a lotof ways, even they're just the
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front men. I think it's thepeople that we don't even know
who they are. And andultimately, I think it gets
into, you know, fallen angelsand evil.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
What's the most concerning thing about that is
actually we are see we see thishappening, like I said, around
the world, around the globe,especially in the western
democracies. I mean, you know,democracies. I mean, you know,
just look at the at theplandemic, you rightly called it
plandemic. You know, they wereliterally reading from the same
script. I mean, to the to the tothe words they use, you know, no
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one is safe until everyone issafe and, you know, protect, at
home, build back better.
They were literally reading fromthe same script. And, you know,
that simply does not happen.That all of these, you know,
different governments around theworld came up with the very same
idea and solution to thisproblem. Right? So that's just
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kinda like the the way it is.
And now I did we getdisconnected?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Nope. You're still here.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Oh, okay. Perfect. So, like I said, they were all
in lockstep, and that shouldreally concern us because that's
an indication as to we are atthis point, I mean, all the
people around the world, we arein the very same boat. They're
attacking all of us. They'reattacking all of our freedom,
all of our democracy, and all ofour fundamental rights and our
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rule of law.
They just wanna, you know,abolish it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
And looking at, you know, part of this, especially
speaking to to Europe, if youlook at how they've used this
weaponized migration of of, youknow, a lot of Africa, a lot of
the Middle East coming intoEurope. Here over in America,
it's a lot of South CentralAmerica. And, also, you have,
you know, a lot of people comingfrom, you know, same places
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they're coming into Europe. WhenI look at this idea of can we
can we save the future ofhumanity? Right?
We save the future of ofAmerica, of Germany, of France,
these different countries. Iit's almost like you you get to
a certain point where, like,have you entered the the road of
(12:55):
no return? Right? Because if youlook at, say, some of the
European countries now, youknow, I see videos coming out,
whether it's, looking at city,you know, city of London or
different parts of Europe, youknow, beautiful cities that
fifty years ago were thesebeautiful cities that were
beacons of that Europeanculture, right, with with deep,
deep, deep heritage. Yeah.
(13:15):
That culture is being lost, andand my concern is that is this
something that can even beundone? Even if the good people
say take control, it's it'salmost like once you once you
take something and and you putI'm not gonna I'm not gonna
refer them as poisonnecessarily, but if you put
poison into a pond, it's hard toactually undo that. Once you
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start mixing all this stufftogether, it's hard to undo
that. And, obviously, in Europe,you're seeing it. You're seeing
this weaponized mass migrationand these corrupt politicians
just opening their borderssimilar to, you know, to what
Joe Biden did.
So how do you make sense of thatgoing forward? And and how do
you do do you see a pathforward, or is Europe in a place
where it's maybe a little bitit's got a little you know, too
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late, too little, basically?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah. Well, first of all, we we kinda need to take a
look at and, you know, kind ofunpack that. Why would they even
do something like this? I mean,you know, you really don't only
have, like you need only need,like, two functioning brain
cells to understand. If youflood any society with a vast
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amount or vast number, a largenumber of people that are
culturally incompatible withyour own society, with your
values, what you stand for, itcan't work.
There is no way it could everwork. It would work if you had a
strong police state, you know,keeping the peace, but that's
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not what our societies are like.So the question really is, why
are they even doing that? Andthat is the question that we
need to answer first. And Ithink the answer to that
question is simply this.
We are I mean, they're attackingus on every level possible. And
these are attacks our identity,you know, whether it's our
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cultural identity or nationalidentity. They're not even
stopping to attack our sexualidentity. I mean, who we are,
you know, in the core of ourbeings, our sexual identity,
they don't even shy away fromtaking that away from us by
making people believe, you know,yeah, you can change your sex.
(15:25):
No, you can't.
You I mean, what you can do isyou can, you know, dress up as
the other sex. You can hack upyour body to resemble the other
sex, but you will never ever beable to change your biological
sex. On the contrary, you will,like I said, just be damaged.
(15:47):
You will be a lifelong patientfor the pharmaceutical industry.
Right?
And that's what they pretty muchaim for. But it's an attack on
our our identity. And if youdon't know who you are anymore
because your identity has beenso watered down, you know, and
if you can be anything you wantand you can change that on any
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day, any given given day, whatare you gonna be in the end?
You're gonna be nothing. Youdon't have you are not an
individual anymore with a uniqueidentity.
And that's exactly what they're,as far as I'm concerned, what
they're aiming for. You know, ifyou don't know who you are, you
don't have roots, you don'treally, you know, relate to
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anything of significance in yourlife anymore, then they have you
exactly where they need you tobe. You know, just a a male
mindless kind of malleable mass.You be a part of that, and they
can shuffle you around any whichway they need you to be. And
that makes you susceptible tojust carrying out orders without
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really thinking about, you know,is that the right thing to do or
is that meaningful what I'mdoing here?
So that's that's really whatyou're trying to get us. And,
yeah, you will have would haveto say that is what the ultimate
enslavement of all human beingson the globe is is probably
boiled down to, and that's whatthey're trying to achieve.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
And so looking at the you mentioned you kinda, like,
ask the questions of, okay. Whyare they doing this? Right? Why
are they and and and the oneword that came to mind for me
was destabilization. Right?
And if you look at if you if youstudy how Rome fell, as an
example, one of most powerfulempires that's that's ever
existed, one of the main thingsthat that caused its fall there
are multiple factors, you know,corrupt politicians, the
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debasement of their currency,etcetera. But one of the big
things was just the open bordersand the mixing of cultures. And,
you know, one example from fromRome is that in times of peace,
those cultures can coexist. Butwhen there's, when there's
instability, when there is war,then you have every culture
reverts to their cultural norms,and and they tribe together to
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protect themselves. And Isuspect that that's exactly what
they're trying to do is createthat same thing.
It's like, you know, if I go inmy backyard and I take two
different types of ants, thoseants might be perfectly they
exist perfectly on their own.Say, like, the fire ants and the
other ants. Like, they'rethey're perfect. But if you take
them, you put them in the samejar and shake it up, they'll go
to war with each other. And andI think that's what that's what
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a part of it is is that they'rethey're using humans against
humans to really to depopulateand destroy cultures.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Absolutely. You know what? The point is this. I mean,
it it is it is a reality. We areliving in a world with limited
resources.
Resources. And as long as youcan provide, you know, for
everyone, then, you know,nothing's gonna happen. But
living in a world with limitedresources, it they're not only
limited, they're on top of thatare being made scares, you know,
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deliberately, like, you know,the deindustrialization that is
going on in Germany because wedo need to save the planet,
right? Energy prices, they'reskyrocketing. So that, you know,
puts more stress on theresources available and, you
know, how they are trying to,yeah, pretty much get the
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farmers to give up their landand, you know, slaughter their
cattle because they're producingcarbon dioxide.
Can you imagine? So, I mean, youknow, all of this going on. But
if you have a world with limitedresources, and eventually, if
you have to fight, you know, forthese resources, and that's
really what life is all aboutwhen it comes down to it. It's
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about survival. So then peoplewill, you know, always try to
connect with their own kind,whether it's their own ethnicity
or whatever kind of parameteryou choose to make out your own
group.
But that's when you have these,yeah, pretty much tribalism,
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that's what it leads to. And,yeah, that's what they're
they're they're literallyimporting into our societies. So
you have, like, these thesedifferent tribes, if you want.
And the only way you can keeppeace in that is with a strong
police force. And that seems tobe another motive for them to
(20:23):
bring all, you know, millionsand millions of these so called
refugee refugees or refugeeseekers, rather, to cause that
kind of mayhem.
And then, you know, the peoplewill voluntarily scream for more
police, more order that, youknow, the authority that's being
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exercised in. So eventually itwill lead up to that. And that's
pretty much where they want us,in a police state where we rely
on the authorities to keep peacein our society. But the point is
this, we had a peaceful society.And to me, it was like, you
know, the biggest accomplishmentof a civilized society is to
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have peace in the public sphere.
And we had that. We really did.I mean, women in Germany, we
could have left the houseanytime, whether it was daytime
or nighttime, you know. Itreally wasn't wasn't a big
problem, big issue. It now is.
We are no longer safe. And onceagain, when you get to that
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point that the people it's justa matter of time until people
will start calling for moresurveillance and more police and
more, you know, whatever, andthat's where they where they
want us to be.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Now you you mentioned life in Germany, and how have
you seen that life change? Youknow, let's just say from
growing up into your youryounger years to now, like, what
is what is life like in inGermany, especially in some of
the the bigger, more populatedcities in Germany?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It's, well, it's it's surely slowly, but surely, well,
last years, it's gotten morefast, but it's into a hellhole.
I remember when I when I grewup, you know, just so we were a
secular state. Nobody cared whowhat what the religion of of,
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you know, the others were. Sothe only way we saw this or the
only indication we had of thiswas in school when the
Protestants and Catholics, youknow, went to different classes
pertaining to their religion.That was like, you know, the
only thing you could actuallysee, that there were two major
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religions in the country.
But now it's like, so no onecared about religion. It didn't
mean that I didn't play with aboy just because he was Catholic
and I was Protestant. It didn'tmatter. It did not matter at all
in our lives anymore. Now,however, this religion all of a
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sudden, you know, it's prevalenteverywhere.
You cannot go without a singlehour on any given day without
being confronted with religion.But now it's not, you know, the
the Christian faith, it's alwaysIslam. It's Whether they pray on
the streets or whether you hear,you know, the mosques or
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whatever it is. Right? So thisis really concerning.
And, sadly, but I have to say, Ino longer feel safe in my
country. Women are retreatingfrom public spaces such as, you
know, you might remember 2015,the New Year's Eve celebration
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in Cologne, where, I mean,literally a thousand men, you
know, ganged up to, know, molestsexually molest hundreds and
hundreds of women, and theycouldn't do a darn thing about
it. The way they went aboutdoing is ganging up with them,
isolating them from from theirfriends, and they were just, you
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know, like attacking them,grabbing them, penetrating them
with whatever they, you know,could think of. So it's really
scary. And we are now discussingin Germany publicly if there
should be separate carriages ontrains just for women so they
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could feel safe.
What we're actually doing is weare implementing the lift sexual
apartheid regime from theseIslam countries that we are
importing. That's what we'redoing. And on the altar altar of
diversity and kindness and whathave you, non intolerance, we're
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actually sacrificing our liberaland free societies just so we
won't get called racist orIslamophobes. But it's actually
worse what we're seeing. It'sour our societies are turning
into brutal societies.
(25:15):
It's, you know, dehumanizing.It's it's just a travesty what
what we're seeing. And I mean,take there is now we're talking
every single day in Germany.There are two brutal gang rapes
occurring every single day. Two.
And when I'm talking brutal gangrapes, I mean brutal gang rapes.
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These women are not just notjust being raped. They're
literally beaten within an inchof their life. Right? And this
is now considered, or we'rekinda, you know, supposed to
accept that.
I will never, never in my lifewill I accept that, and I will
fight it with with everythingI've got. Right? Then add to
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that, we have these random knifeattacks. They're no longer
happening on on a daily basis.They're happening on an hourly
basis now.
So there's, like, twelve,thirteen, fourteen, fifteen just
random knife attacks. Whereveryou go, you know, you can be a
victim of that too. There is noindication as to when it will
happen, who will, you know, bethe perpetrator. It they're just
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there, and, you know, they'retheir start. So, yes, we are
losing our our free liberalintolerant societies.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
It just it's so it's it's beyond sadness. It's it's
so Yes. Guess sadness is is, Iguess just just to think, like,
where our society has has cometo. Right? And that it's it's
like to step to step back andlook back even fifty years or a
hundred years and look at, youknow, how every aspect of our
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society has changed.
Our our our morals, our, youknow, the the kind of acceptance
of religion, the faith in Godused be almost universal within
mankind to believe in a higherpower. The this all of this is
just it's just changed ourculture. What's popular? You
look at what's trending. I knowa lot of the The United States
and and, you know, Hollywood andthe music industry is is used as
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a weapon to to really kind of,you know, kinda push filth onto
the whole world, the culturalfilth of the the the modern rap
industry.
And, you know, you can't watch aTV show these days without like,
the first episode of any series,there's always some sort of of
homosexual scene. It's likeYeah. Even, like, you know,
like, great It's like the firstepisode, they're always gonna
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shove that in there. It's justlike, what has happened
Speaker 2 (27:40):
to us? That's just the that's just the thing, you
know? I mean, my my kind of myunderstanding is kinda, you
know, live and let live, butplease do not shove it down our
throats. And that's exactlywhat's happening. You're being
confronted with this ideology,you know, whether it's a
transgender or whatever it is.
(28:01):
You're being confronted withthis every single second of
every day of your life. Like yousaid, you cannot turn on a TV
show without being, you know,confronted with that and with
having, you know, this stuffbeing shoved down your throat.
And people are sick and tired ofit. And it's what they're trying
to achieve by shoving it downour throats is so that this
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would be somehow recognized asnormal. But it's it's not
normal.
That is not how the vastmajority of people live their
lives. You know? Yes. There area few people that do choose this
lifestyle. Well, let them.
I don't care, you know, if theydo it behind, you know,
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wherever, but do not shove itdown my throat. And the thing is
simply this, you can identify aswhatever you want. I really
don't care. The point is this.You do not have the right to
make me part of your delusion.
I mean, just think back in thedays, you know, when someone
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identified as Napoleon, societydidn't bend bend back over
backwards to just, you know,make you acceptable and to
affirm your delusion. No. Youwere being treated because you
were suffering from a delusion.But now it's not only expected
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from us, it's now punishable bylaw if we refuse to participate
in your delusion by referring toa biological man as a she.
Right?
Jordan Peterson is completelyright about that. That is
compelled speech, and it makesme complicit in a delusion that
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I do not want to be part of. Sothat's, you know, where we
really have to draw the line.Identify as whatever you want. I
do not care, but do not make mepart of your delusion.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
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(31:33):
And you mentioned how thesethese a lot of these things have
become law. And so, you know,you're one of the very few,
people within the politicalarena that I think I can have
even have on my show and havethese conversations with. But
you obviously you're bumpingelbows with politicians around
the world. You know, I knowyou're in Canada right now. You
you you have a speaking tourthere, and you're you've got all
(31:54):
kinds of flack and negativityfrom, you know, previous
political leaders in Canada.
And, oh, you're, you know,you're some extremist coming.
You're not welcome in thecountry. It's like, well, this
is insane. But, you know, as weget into the the idea of these
politicians, do what do youthink is controlling them? Are
are are there politicians thatyou know that they want to speak
(32:14):
up and maybe that they're scaredof the backlash?
Or like, because so many of thethings that are happening in our
our entire world are beingpushed by politicians. And and I
suspect a lot of them are arebeing controlled by blackmail
and who knows what else. But whyhow is it that the politicians
have become so corrupted thatthey are destroying the very
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nations and and states andpeople that they're supposed to
be looking out for?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah. That's that's actually a good question. You
know, especially once you knowthat, you know, behind the
world, closed doors, they'rehaving an entirely different
tune, you know, to a lot of thethings that are going on. So but
what would prompt them to, youknow, just kind of play along
and not speak up? That it's avariety of reasons.
(33:05):
So I'm pretty sure there is, youknow, some of them that really
that that can be blackmailedwith something in their lives or
whatever. But that's that's justa very very few. The vast
majority of those that, youknow, advocate for these insane
agendas is a very simple one,it's profit. They're either
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profiting from it directly or,you know, their families are
profiting from it, so that isone part of the reason. Then
there is another group of MPs,MEPs, like the parliamentarians.
They were just so glad tofinally belong to the club,
right? They get invitations toneo buffets or, you know, to get
(33:55):
play golf or whatever. Sothey're so hard to belong to the
club. They do not wanna riskthat, and they would risk it if
they realized that that whateverthey were advocating for was
actually not in the bestinterest of the people, and they
would say that publicly. So theyjust keep their mouth shut.
So like I said, it's kind ofhard to say why they would do
(34:22):
that, But there is a very fewpeople of them that they know
perfectly well, you know, whatwe're doing is not the right
thing. But they do it anywaybecause, like I said, it's so
great to finally be part of thatclub that they don't wanna risk
it. So, and unfortunately, thereis only a very small number of
(34:43):
elected representatives in theparliaments around the world
that actually do speak up andthat do advocate for the best
the best of the people of thebest interest and serve in their
best interest. So yeah. But it'sit's beyond me why you would
serve anyone other than the onesyou got elected by and the ones
(35:05):
you are paid by, by the way.
Well, why why you would even dothat? That is actually a big
betrayal of the people.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
And so looking at the future, do you have hope? And if
you do have hope for the future,what gives you that hope?
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Oh, of course. I mean, if I didn't have hope, I I
wouldn't be able to do this.Right? I would just probably,
you know, withdraw and, youknow, roll over and kind of play
dead, whatever. No.
No. No. There there isabsolutely hope, and we must
never lose that hope. Because ifyou look back in history, you
know, truth and justice, italways prevailed in the end. It
(35:47):
might have been, you know, astruggle, but generations before
us has gone through thatstruggle too.
And the circumstances were wayworse than what we are up
against today. Right? I mean,our forefathers, they were
literally spilling their bloodto wrestle the the power from
former elites. So, yeah, you youmust never give up hope. So what
(36:14):
is really or giving me hope atthis point is to see that people
are waking up, people arewisening up to what is going on.
And that's probably one of thebest things that came out of
COVID, is that large and vastamounts of people realized what
(36:35):
the underlying, the ulteriormotive was. It was never about
breaking any waves. It wasalways about breaking people,
and that's why they implementedall of these measures and
turning fundamental rights intoprivileges that the government
can grant or withhold dependingon how you behave. So a lot of
(36:55):
people woke up to that. A lot ofpeople saw through that BS and
called it out.
Initially it was a few, but thenumbers grew and that's what
really gives me hope. And I'vebeen saying that like years ago.
My hope actually rested on theone hand with the Americans,
(37:17):
with the American people,because Americans, they have
such a much more profoundunderstanding of freedom. You
don't find it to that of anextent in in Europe. So my hope
kinda rested with the Americanpeople that they would not take
(37:37):
this any longer and that wouldeventually stand up, which they
are doing now.
And my hope also rests with theEastern European countries. I
mean, they've lived throughtotalitarianism. And they
recognize totalitarianism whenthey see it. And they are seeing
it now. They're recognizing themechanisms and, you know, all of
(37:58):
the the agendas that have beenimplemented back then under the
pretense of, you know, it's thebest for the people.
So they're seeing through thatBS. They have learned how to
read newspaper. It's notimportant what the newspaper
says. The important thing iswhat doesn't it say and what is
what is it saying between thelines. So they're realizing that
(38:21):
and they are beginning to riseup and speak up.
So that's where my hope lies.And of course my hope lies
within the people that haven'tforgotten what freedom,
democracy, and the rule of lawis all about. And I mean,
notably there, or that stood outreally among all of the protests
(38:46):
that were organized, were theCanadian Freedom Truckers,
right? So that really gave me alot of hope. Just, you know, the
signal that I kind of needed.
Well, not all is lost and myfight is not for nothing. People
are actually rising up andthat's the good thing. So yeah,
(39:09):
absolutely, I have hope. That'swhy I continue to do what I've
been doing to pretty much shinea light on the sinister agendas
they're trying to implementaround the world and calling
just calling them out on it. Soand that's I encourage people to
do that because totalitarianism,that's that's the interesting
(39:30):
thing about that.
Which, by the way, that is thedifference even between a a
dictatorship andtotalitarianism. A dictator, the
only thing he's concerned aboutis staying in power, but he
doesn't really care what youreally think about him. You are
not allowed to say what youthink about about the dictator.
You you can as long as you keepit to yourself, he does not he
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does not care what you thinkabout it. Totalitarianism, on
the other hand, they need tocontrol your thinking.
You are not even allowed tothink in different ways than
that what what they give you asthe narrative. So that that's,
like, the the difference. Buttotalitarianism only works if no
(40:19):
one contradicts and if no onechallenges it. So every single
dissenting voice will break thatcycle on which totalitarianism
actually functions. And sothat's why they're so adamant
about shutting us up,criminalizing us, persecuting
(40:39):
us.
I mean, you're going to jail nowfor mean tweets. Can you
imagine? So, but they're doingthat because they understand
they need to silence thedissenting voices. And if they
fail to do that, then they failin erecting their totalitarian
(41:00):
regime. So please speak up.
Never allow them to dictate toyou what you can think and what
you can say. That's pretty muchall there is. And always keep in
mind compliance and silenceenable tyrants. So speak up.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
I'm glad you went to that because I was gonna ask,
what is your advice for people?Right? You know, for the average
person that's watching this andthinking they can feel this
coming in. They see it creepingin. What the advice is?
And and, actually, I'll I'll saya quick thing is that you
mentioned the people that camefrom Eastern Europe that lived
under under communism,especially, you know, Soviet
Union, and how they can see it.It's interesting because one of
(41:42):
my neighbors, lovely, lovelyfamily, I was talking to the
woman, and she's she's at thegrandmother age now. And she
was, you know, talking to me,and I found out she was from
Eastern Europe, and she hadlived under communism before.
And, she's here in America,obviously. She's my neighbor.
And, she said, you know, I canfeel it in my bones that
communism is creeping intoAmerica. She goes, it's hard to
(42:03):
describe. She goes, I felt itten, fifteen years ago in this
country. I could feel the sameentity that was ruling in Europe
is now taking a lot of, powerand and holding power even here
in America.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
It's yeah. And, you know, that that that just that's
what what separates us frompeople that actually have lived
in a totalitarian regime. Theyknow. They know perfectly well.
What we suffer from in in theWestern world, the western
democracies, if you want, wehave become spoiled, rotten
(42:41):
brats.
We no longer put any value onfreedom, democracy, and a rule
of law.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
It's your average American too.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Yeah. We kinda grew up with it. It was always there.
And we have somehow come tobelieve it's always been there
and it's always gonna be there.And we've completely forgotten,
no, it had to be wrestled fromthe former elites once in in
brutal and bloody fights.
And if you if you don't defendit, then it will slip away. As
(43:12):
Juan Reginald said, you know,freedom is only one generation
away or is only one generationfrom becoming extinct, something
like that. So that's absolutelytrue. So if you wanna continue
to live in freedom, democracy,and a rule of law, you have to
get up and do something aboutit. You have to defend it and
(43:32):
fight for it every single day.
And you need to call out thosethat are threatening it. And
it's at this moment, our freedomof democracy and our rule of law
is being threatened by the onesthat we elected to govern us.
And if people don't begin tounderstand that, then yeah, we
(43:53):
are going to be in very bigtrouble. And, again, given the
psyche the technical means thathave at their disposal nowadays,
we are not only talking aboutforty years of Eastern Germany
or seventy years of of SovietUnion, we will be talking about
a damn long time.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Yeah. I I couldn't agree more. Like, that's the
thing is that because before,you would have tyranny in
certain countries, but you alsohad freedom in the other
countries, and it created thisperspective that, you know,
people it's like, why, you know,why in China, for instance? You
know, China which I've I've youknow, that was what it was for
me even though, like, I grew upin a very simple Midwestern home
(44:33):
in America. You know, great,great childhood, lived on, you
know, near the farm and and grewup and playing in the mud and
swimming in the river and andthese beautiful things.
And but for me, there's thisturning point in in my life.
And, actually, what it was forme is I in my in college, I had
met this guy that was a nicereally nice guy who's he was on
I think he was on a full ridescholarship for his master's at
(44:55):
a prestigious university inAmerica, and he's from China.
And he was a younger guy, and Ifound out he had spent eight
years in a forced labor camp. Sohe had spent eight years, like,
literally being tortured,electrocuted. Now for him, was
because he was a Falun Gongpractitioner, which is one of
the, you know, kind of religionsand belief systems that the CCP
has really targeted.
(45:15):
Right? But it's also it'sChristianity. It's it's really
any belief system that thecommunists don't control. Yeah.
But that's why they they have tokeep they have to close off that
thought so much so that youdon't have these examples of the
other countries.
They say they can't see whatlife is like in a free country,
because it's the idea thatbecomes a cancer to the
totalitarian system, the idea ofwhat freedom should look like.
(45:38):
And Yeah. So we've always hadthat, but I write I you you said
that if we can't escape this,you know, we'll be under this
rule for a damn long time. Yep.And that's my concern too
because what we're what we'refacing is not a single country
following the tyranny, but we'resay we're facing Exactly.
The whole world following thetyranny and one that has the
technology to build a a globaltechnocratic system where
(46:01):
everyone is enslaved. And that'sthat and that's truly what we're
up against.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah. And that's that is the most scary part of it
all. You know? If it was one ortwo or three countries going
broke. You know?
The people of these countries,they would have, you know, the
justified expectation thateventually, you know, someone is
gonna step in and put a stop tothis tyranny. But now we're all
(46:28):
in the same boat. Who do youthink is gonna show up and help
you? It's not gonna be theChinese. It's it's not gonna be
North Korea, and it's not gonnabe Russia either, to be honest.
So we are all in they are inlockstep. It's happening
everywhere. So it's it's up tous. We, the people, need to
(46:49):
fight this. There isn't gonna beanyone coming this time around.
Trust me. They're all in cahootswith one another.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Especially if America falls. As much as America has,
you know, a a very corruptedgovernment and a corrupted
military industrial complex, andwe've been doing regime changes
all over with the CIA and colorrevolutions. And we've certainly
done our fair share of badthings. However, America has
been a beacon of hope. You know,you look at the second
(47:20):
amendment, the first amendment,the constitution, you know, the
American people, the the me's,the men in America, the women in
America, I think, do representhope.
But if America falls if Americafalls, then the whole world
falls into into darkness Yes.For it could be a thousand years
of darkness before somethingchanges.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yes. So, yeah, I I really hope that the American
people continue to do the rightthing. I mean, you know,
reelecting Donald Trump in theWhite House, that that that that
that isn't the the the victory.You know? It was a victory, but
it it doesn't stop there.
So the next election comearound, they're faced with the
(48:01):
same problem again. You know? Ifthey once again elect one of the
club ballet or the puppet one ofthe puppets of the club ballet
giant misanthropists, you know,they're gonna be right back at
square one. So, yeah, you'reabsolutely right. If America
falls, if the American people nolonger come up with the strength
(48:22):
to do the right thing and electsomeone who is actually fighting
and fending for the people andfor the for The US constitution,
then, yeah, the whole world isgonna be in in big, big trouble.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more. So
this is really it's it's arally. It's a call to arms for
people really around the world,especially here in America where
where I'm focused. But Yeah.
That we we have to stand up. Wehave to speak up. We we cannot
be silenced, because yeah. Ifit's we're we're on the we're on
the precipice. That's the thingis that we are truly on the prep
(49:00):
precipice of a a very, very,very long time where generations
and generations after us willlive under a slave system.
And and and it's it's it'sfrightening, but there's also
hope. But it's still it's stillvery frightening.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Oh, yeah. That absolutely is. And, you know, to
say that, that's just the thing.I mean, that's exactly how
totalitarianism works. You know,like, if you've seen that in in
during the pandemic.
And people, they just, you know,complied with whatever word was
asked of them. Right? Putting onmasks or taking an mRNA shot,
(49:36):
staying at home, and lettinggranny die all by herself out of
fear she would contract COVID.Right? I mean, that in and of
itself, that was that thatprobably the most cruelest thing
I've ever heard.
And I'm pretty sure that all ofthese elderlies that did die,
(49:57):
you know, all alone, and, youknow, completely lonely,
probably they died ofloneliness, they would have
gladly taken the risk ofpossibly catching COVID if it
had meant to see their lovedones just one more time. Right?
So I mean, totally ridiculouswhere we were all going with
(50:18):
this. Yeah, totalitarianismworks on the fear of people. And
I do understand that a lot ofpeople, they complied out of
fear of what the governmentmight do to them, when in
reality, they should be way moreafraid of what the government
(50:39):
will do to each and one of themif they continued to comply.
You know, they would have justtaken it one step at a time, and
they would have tightened thethumb screws even tighter each
term. Right? So, yeah, like Isaid, if you just comply because
(51:01):
you're afraid of yourgovernment, well, you have no
idea what you have coming if youcontinue to comply. You have no
idea what they're actuallycapable of and what they will do
if you continue to comply.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
I couldn't agree more. I think that it's it's a
good message for us to to kindof wrap up on is just that exact
message. It's just it's it'sreally a wake up call of where
we're at and what will happen ifwe comply, and what happens if
we just get lulled back into oursilence and our comfort, which
is that that's really it's beenan it's it's been a Yeah. It's
been a parasite to the Americanculture. This this Yes.
(51:35):
Culture of comfort and andfootball and entertainment and
bread and circuses as we'veExactly. Been become distracted.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
And and and add fear to fear to this. Right? People
in fear, they're kept in thisconstant, however irrational
that fear is. But if you havethat constant fear, you know,
they can do whatever with you.You know, you will grasp any
straw that they're giving toyou, and and you will gladly
embrace it as, you know, a goodthing.
(52:05):
But as Albert Camus once said,in order to defy an unfree
world, you yourself have tobecome so absolutely free that
your very existence is an act ofrebellion. That's that's a
pretty powerful statement. So donot be afraid. As long as you're
(52:26):
afraid, then they have powerover you. Take the power away.
Don't be afraid anymore. Don'tbe afraid.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Well, there you go. Well, Christine, thank you.
Thank you for doing what you'redoing, being fearless, amidst
all the difficulties I'm sureyou're facing every day. Your
voice is important. And,hopefully, this conversation is
was helpful for people to, Ithink, kinda stir them a little
bit.
Say, hey. Wake up. Wake up. Thisis what's coming. But also to
what what you've just reminded,we cannot have fear.
(52:57):
We cannot we cannot bow down. Wecannot comply because everything
is on the line here. And I Iappreciate what you've been
doing to get that message out.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Yeah. Well, that's, you know, the bit I can do. And
I hope to to make peopleunderstand and inspire them to
also speak up and not besilenced any longer.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
And, lastly, is there anything that people that you
would like to kinda directpeople to in any whether it's
following you on social media orany website, you know, what can
people do to to support whatyou're doing?
Speaker 2 (53:30):
Well, the biggest support or the biggest way of
supporting me would actually todo what I what I just asked of
you. Do not be silenced anymore.Speak up, and just, you know,
let your government know thatyou will no longer just, you
know, tag along and, you know,be complacent with whatever they
have in store for you, that youhave a mind of your own, and
(53:54):
that is actually you that is incharge of running the country
and not the government. Thegovernment was elected by you to
do your bidding. So make themsee that they have to do your
bidding.
And other than that, yeah, itwould be nice if you could give
me a follow on social media.Just Google me, and you'll
stumble across all my socialmedia accounts. And just spread
(54:18):
the word, and don't be silenced.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
Thank you so much, Christine. It it's such a
pleasure speaking with you.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Thank you again for having me. It was a pleasure to
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