The MAGA Civil War: How Israel & Iran Are Being Used in a Deep-State Psyop

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a
world gone mad. I'm your host,Seth Holehouse. So tonight's
show, I had set out to make itmore of a weekly news recap. And
just so you know, that'sactually part of my plan is I'm
gonna start doing a weekly show,probably Fridays, where it it's

(00:35):
just a a look at the week, thethe previous week, and just look
at things just through my lensof what do I think is important
to talk about. It may not bewhat's popular or what's
trending, but, you know, I'mcoming through the news
constantly, and there'softentimes, there's things
happening that I thought, gosh,that is incredibly important,
yet no one's talking about it.
So that will be the opportunity,the time for me to just go over,

(00:57):
you know, what am I following?Why do I think certain things
are very important? And as I waspreparing for tonight's show,
and kinda looking, okay, whatare the big stories? There's
really this one big story rightnow, and that's Israel and Iran.
And there's a lot of sub storiesto it, including this, like,
massive and insane civil warhappening among MAGA.

(01:22):
I mean, it's gotten kinda crazy,and I think there's a lot behind
it, which I'll be I'll begetting into. But as I was
looking at this potentialstories for tonight's show, I
think, you know, I was tellingmyself, okay. You know what,
Seth? Let's just focus onIsrael, Iran. Okay?
So I'm gonna be, you know,basically, the whole show
tonight. I'm gonna just bewalking you through how I

(01:42):
understand what's happening overthere. I will be the first to
admit that I find The MiddleEast extremely confusing. I
mean, I think it's probablydesigned that way, but the
complexity of what's happeningin The Middle East is just it's
hard to wrap your head around,and it is also extremely

(02:03):
divisive. Now I'm not coming tothis with some strong agenda as
you'll probably see in the showtonight.
I'm just coming to askquestions. It's like, okay.
Israel is attacking Iran. Iranretaliates. There's a claim that
Israel has nuclear weapons orthe potential to build nuclear

(02:23):
weapons and that they have beenthreatening and chanting death
to America, and there's beenpotential assassination attempts
on Trump.
So there's a lot that kindapoints to Iran as being the bad
guys. Yet, there's also the thekind of large perspective that
is, okay. Well, this is Israel'swar, and, yes, they're
threatening our our presidentand yelling at him. Does that

(02:45):
mean that we're gonna go bombthem and, like, destroy their
their entire society? And shouldwe even be fighting Israel's
wars?
And why are you know, why is itthat congress and the senate and
so many politicians and Trump'sentire cabinet, basically, why
are they all either dual citizenwith Israel, heavily funded by

(03:06):
APEC, you know, very open aboutthe fact that they're very,
very, like, strong, like, almostIsrael first instead of America
first? These are questions thatwe should be asking ourselves
just objectively. And so that'swhat I'm gonna do in tonight's
show. Now maybe there's certainthings I'm gonna say that you're
gonna disagree with, and, hey.Great.
Right? We we still have freespeech here in America, and so

(03:27):
I'm freely speaking about what Ithink, and I look forward to
seeing the comments and seeingall the hate mail of the people
telling me what they think. And,also, actually, there's a lot of
really good positive comments.But either way, positive or
negative, I I do enjoy them. Butyeah.
So that's my intention is justin tonight's show, just to walk
you through where I'm at inunderstanding this entire

(03:48):
situation. And and also, there'ssome part of this that's
actually one of the mostconcerning aspects of that,
which I'll be getting into,which is this whole MAGA divide.
And, yeah, we'll we'll get intothat because I think there's
there's much more complicatedthings happening there. So
first, I wanna start off withjust the foundation of this
entire war, what seems to bethat Iran has weapons of mass

(04:12):
destruction, basically. I mean,this is kind of Bush two point
o.
Actually, I'll play a littlereminder video for you. Like,
oh, yeah. Why do we get into allthese Middle Eastern wars? This
guy right here.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
I

Speaker 3 (04:32):
take the threat very seriously. I take the fact that
he develops weapons of massdestruction very seriously. I
remember the fact that he hasinvaded two countries before. I
know for a fact that he'spoisoned his own people. He

(04:55):
doesn't believe in the worth ofeach individual.
He doesn't

Speaker 1 (05:00):
So okay. There you go. We've been through this
whole storyline before ofweapons of mass destruction, and
we later realized that that waskind of a lie to justify getting
into a Middle Eastern war andmaking Dick Cheney and
Halliburton, you know, probablybillions and billions of dollars
and seizing oil rights andseizing probably some ancient

(05:24):
artifacts that were over therethat we wanna get our hands on.
So, you know, United Statesdoing regime changes is not
uncommon. I think I'd saved map,which I I can may try to
reference.
Actually, let me try to pullthis up for you quickly,
actually. Because I UnitedStates has done an insane amount

(05:44):
of regime changes. And actually,me pull this up. Let me search
my bookmark right here. Okay.
Here we go. So here is one map.This is US backed regime change
operations. They're sayingthere's been a 101 campaigns
from 1949 to 02/2014. Now,especially what we've looked at

(06:09):
since the Doge revealed what washappening with USAID, you know,
or even going back into readingthe economic hitman, you know,
John Perkins.
If you've read that before, youknow, highly recommend it. It's
not some sort of conspiracytheory to say that The United
States has done massive amountsof regime changes. Right? If you

(06:31):
look what's happening in Ukraineright now, it's happening across
South America, Africa, TheMiddle East, you know, all all
tons of places. Okay?
So it's very easy justificationfor these regime regime changes
and say, oh, look. This leaderis really, really bad. They're a

(06:52):
great threat, and this is justthe ones that are kind of more
public about. I think, actually,a lot of times the regime
changes, they're not publicabout it at all. They're very
hidden.
And all you'll notice is that,oh, wow. There's riots in this
country, and there's theseuproar arrests, and there's a
revolution, and now they'vereplaced the the leader. And
oftentimes, those, replacementsof leaders are at the hands of
the CIA and probably Mossad andMI six and other special

(07:15):
intelligence agencies andwhatnot. So it's not uncommon to
look at that. And so we look atwhat's happening right now with
Iran.
That's one of the questions islike, okay. Is this some sort of
justification for a regimechange? Is that what's behind
this? Because the idea ofwhether Iran has nuclear

(07:37):
weapons, which really that seemsto be the entire justification
for this current war, is thatIran has capabilities to produce
nuclear weapons. Well, let'slook historically.
Okay. So, you know, if you lookat old Bush there, you know,
forgive me for being a littlejaded when when our leaders tell
us that these bad people acrossthe world have these really bad

(08:00):
weapons, and we have to go takeover their country. Okay? I'm a
little jaded on that, but let'sjust go see. Okay?
Here's a post that Owen Schroyerput out, who's been very vocal
about what's happening. So thisis just a short history of
Netanyahu talking about Iranhaving nuclear weapons. Now this
ball plays for you real quickly.It's forty seven seconds.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
If not stopped, Iran could produce a nuclear weapon
in a very

Speaker 1 (08:23):
short It

Speaker 4 (08:24):
could be a year. It could be within a few months.
They have

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Twenty eighteen.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
Wherewithal, the stored up preserved knowledge to
make a bomb very quickly if theywanted to do it. Iran

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Twenty fifteen.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
Dangerous. Weeks away from having the fissile material
for an entire arsenal of nuclearbombs. They're very close

Speaker 1 (08:44):
to Twenty twelve.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
Away from being about 90% of having the rich uranium
for an atom bomb. Iran isgearing up

Speaker 1 (08:50):
02/2006.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
To produce 25 bombs, atomic bombs a year, 250 bombs
in a decade. Ladies andgentlemen

Speaker 1 (08:57):
'96.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
Time is running out. Iran will be capable

Speaker 1 (09:01):
'95.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
Of producing alone without importing anything
nuclear bombs within three tofive years.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
If not stopped So at every short time.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
There we just have a a timeline literally going back
thirty years of Netanyahuclaiming that Iran either, I
think, either had nuclear bombsor was was had a potential to
produce it. It would beproducing them within six months
or so, again, you know, I youknow, don't blame me for not
believing these leaders whenthey say that we must go to war

(09:31):
because they have nuclearcapabilities. Now what's
interesting is that a lot ofpeople were were quoting, a
recent report, I think it wasput out a month or two ago by
Tulsi Gabbard, in which theysaid that they did not find
evidence of, this nuclearprogram that these leaders have
been talking about. Now Trumpwas just speaking to media

(09:52):
today, and he's saying thatthat's wrong. Okay?
So let let's go and play thisreally quickly here. This is a a
sixteen second clip.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
What intelligence do you have that Iran is building a
nuclear weapon? Yourintelligence community had said
they have no evidence that theyare at this point.

Speaker 6 (10:06):
Well, then my intelligence community is wrong.
Who in the intelligencecommunity said that?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Your director of national intelligence, Tulsi
Gabbard. She's wrong. So

Speaker 1 (10:16):
and, again, I just I find this strange. Right? Just
kind of strange that thisreporter says, people in your
intelligence community aresaying that there's no evidence
of this nuclear program in Iran.And I would have thought that

(10:37):
Trump would have known exactlywho had said that where it was
coming from, but his firstquestion is, who said that? And
the guy says, oh, it's it's youryour director of DNI, your head
of DNI.
He says, well, she's wrong. So,again, this just leaves me
confused. Right? I mean, becauseI remember back when, you know,
Trump got in, and he's pickinghis his his you know, he's

(10:57):
putting everyone in place, andeveryone was cheering on Tulsi
Gabbard, and you you know, itfelt like there was this, like,
Avengers, this superheroassembly of Cash Patel and Dan
Bongino and RFK and TulsiGabbard and all these people
coming together. And that wholeenergy and movement just seems
very shattered and and split upright now.

(11:18):
And I just wanna take a quickstep back and just share some
overall thoughts on Trump is,you know, my thought with Trump
is not necessarily that he'sstraight lying to us or he's,
like, doing just this absoluteterrible job, but it's just
thinking, okay. Well, how muchcontrol does he really have? I
think that there's a lot ofpeople that believe that Trump

(11:39):
could just get into office andjust, you know, just make these
massive sweeping changes. But,know, one thing that I've come
to recently in my ownunderstanding of trying to just
see how all these pieces fittogether is that the if you're
looking at the pyramid of kindawhat entities or groups or
individuals are ruling thisworld, there's this belief that

(12:03):
the US president has all thispower. But, actually, I I
honestly, if I had to if I had,like, an org chart of who runs
the world, like, there'sprobably layers that we don't
even know about.
And and Trump, as much as wethink he's, like, the one of
those powerful figures in theworld, which he does he does
wield a lot of power, like, hecould be five or 10 rungs down

(12:23):
from the top of this structure.Like, what we're up against is
is is not just the deep state ofbureaucracy in Washington DC.
Like, we're literally up againsta thousands, you know, multi
thousands of years old lineageof bloodline of evil families. I

(12:43):
think that originally came fromthe Nephilim and got into, like,
the fallen angels, and, youknow, this is getting, like,
Satan, and, you know, that's awhole different story. But I I
think that what we're up againstis some very, very evil maybe
not even people, entities,demons, whatever they are, they
have been ruling this world fora very, very, very long time and

(13:03):
have a lot of power,unfortunately.
And I I really do believe thatthat evil will fall, but at the
hand of God. Like, I don't Idon't think that Trump can
somehow magically take down theentire deep state. I mean, deep
state, what's that even mean?Maybe the the bureaucratic deep
state in in DC, but the 13families, the cabal, like this

(13:25):
whatever's ruling the world, Imean, I don't think that Trump
stands a chance up against thaton his own. Like, I really think
that he can help create theright kind of momentum and, you
know, encourage, you know,returning back to faith and
positivity and virtue for formankind, and hopefully swing
things in a positive directionwhere the you know, God can then
look down upon this earth andsay, okay.

(13:45):
Now it's time to remove thisevil because the humans have
stood up against it, and there'sbeen enough people that have
shown that, that we aredeserving of of our lives, and
we're deserving to haveblessings, upon this nation and
upon this Earth. But I I justthink that it's such a
complicated system that, youknow, it's easy for us to look
at Trump in a very black andwhite manner even with this war.

(14:07):
I mean, I I haven't been veryvocal about either side saying
it's just so complicated. Andwhile I'm, like, extremely anti
war, like, I don't think weshould be going and fighting
wars on behalf of Israel or onbehalf of any foreign nation for
that matter. However, there'sprobably a lot that I have no
idea about, and there's probablya lot that, like, never even
reaches the public sphere ofdiscussion.

(14:28):
Like, we have no idea what'shappening behind the scenes.
However, I do know that theyhave used the justification of
the weapons of mass destructionto get us into wars before, that
false flag attacks and eventslike, you know, Pearl Harbor or,
you know, you know, nine eleven,that there's been tons of these
different events that have beenused as a means to, you know,
get us into war. And I thinkthat fundamentally, which I'll

(14:49):
get into towards the end of theshow, that all wars are bankers'
wars. And so we we can't look atthe situation without taking a
step back and, okay, say, howdoes this war tie into the
global financial system? Becausethat is where you can trace the
origin of a lot of what happenson this earth.
So continuing, what's beenconcerning to me, though, with
this is I've as we've seen thissituation unfold and the

(15:18):
potential of going to war, andwe have seen a lot of
individuals coming out saying,hey. I am they're either pro war
or against war. I'm seeing aninteresting divide happen. And
what I'm seeing is that there'sa lot of these bigger
personalities that are basicallysaying, I stand by Trump no

(15:39):
matter what. Right?
So if Trump says war, I'm I'mI'm not gonna question it. It's
go to war. And so there'sthere's that aspect of it, which
is like people are saying, look,I've never turned my back on
Trump, and I I'm I'm trulyTrump, which I'll talk about
that in a second here. But thenthe other thing is that there's
been a lot of people that havealso saying, basically, that if
you are quote, unquote, MAGA,and you don't instantly support

(16:02):
Trump going to war, that you'rea turncoat. You're you're a
backstabber.
You're not true. Like, you're,like, you're you're they're
you're basically, that you'rekind of, like, worthless. Right?
And, actually, I'll share thisone post. This is from Laura
Loomer, who is very pro Israel.
I think she I'm pretty sureshe's yeah. She's Jewish, which
is okay. That's fine. It doesn'tbother me. But she's very pro

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Israel.
But what's interesting, though,he look at this post she put
out. So many grifters turning onpresident Trump. I hope he
punishes all of them. So this iscrossing into a different
territory. Right?
So looking at what what is whatwhat Laura is saying here,
basically, is that there's a lotof people that don't agree with

(16:48):
a geopolitical decision thatpresident Trump may make, right,
by potentially attacking Iran.So anybody that voices their
opinions what Laura is saying,basically, anybody who is
voicing their opinion and notgoing along and not just blindly
supporting Trump, that she hopehopes that Trump punishes all of
them. So, I mean, she'sbasically calling for a

(17:11):
dictatorship where and what youknow, look at, like, what
happens in China. If you if youare online complaining about
what Xi Jinping is doing, you'regonna have agents showing up at
your front door with a black bagover your head the next morning.
That's just how it works.
So it's just concerning to me,and and you see even Graham
Allen Graham Allen down thereagreed. Right? It's just this is

(17:34):
a this is kind of a, like, akind of a concerning trend that
is emerging out of this thatit's like if people, you know,
don't support Trump or saying,hey. Look, Trump. I I didn't
support I didn't, you know, Ididn't vote for this.
Like, I I wanted the the peacepresident. I wanted you to come
in and and and not take us intowar. Because if you look at how
things are escalating, and now,China, in many ways, is saying

(17:57):
that they're backing Iran.Russia is backing Iran. I mean,
so if if, say, United States isopenly dropping bombs on Iran,
this might open up a real WorldWar three.
I mean, because right now, whatwhat we're looking at is we're
looking at this kind of Westernalliance of The US and Israel
and NATO, against what's lookinglike the the BRICS alliance.

(18:18):
Right? China, Russia, a lot ofthe Middle Eastern countries. I
mean, this is this is serious.This isn't some small matter.
But, anyway, this is this rubsme the wrong way. I mean, now
look. Laura's done a lot ofgreat reporting, and and she's,
you know, very intelligent. Butwhat I'm seeing in her behavior
right now, especially towards asbecause Israel is center to

(18:38):
this, it makes me question a lotof things about, you know, what
what is the real motive behindthese, these kinds of tweets?
Because I I would, you know,never say that I hope that Trump
punishes you for having thewrong opinion.
Like, now maybe, yes, if you're,like, threatening people and
you're, you're doing really evilthings that are causing harm.

(19:00):
It's like, okay. Yeah. Like,there's there should be laws.
But, anyway, I just there'ssomething off with that.
But I I I I'll read a post thatI put out because I I had I've
been thinking about this, andI've been watching this kinda
develop. And so I put this postout. This this is me and my
thoughts. So I'll put this outhere. It says, we were never
meant to follow any man blindly.
When people declare, I'll standby Trump no matter what, they're

(19:23):
stepping into dangerousterritory. It's not patriotism.
It's idolatry. No politician, nomatter how influential, is above
accountability. Every man sins.
Every leader makes mistakes,which includes Trump. Many of us
voted for Trump because hepromised to stop the endless
wars. Saying, I won't die forIsrael or no more foreign wars

(19:43):
isn't betrayal. It's holding tohim to his word. It's saying,
supported you because you saidAmerica first.
I won't support dragging us intoanother Middle Eastern
bloodbath. But when someonesays, I'll never turn my back on
Trump, I have to ask, would youstill stand by if he told you to
take another mRNA shot, to putyour mask on again, to give up

(20:04):
your guns? Now he he probablywouldn't say those things, but
that's not the point. The pointis our loyalty belongs to truth,
not to men. We're commanded notto worship idols, not
celebrities, not politicians,not even heroes.
So if we don't question those inpower, we're not citizens. We're
followers. And that is howtyranny takes root, not from the

(20:26):
bad leaders, but when the goodpeople stop asking questions.
And that's my belief. I thinkthat it's really, really
important that whether it'sTrump or any other leader that
we have, we have to scrutinizewhat they're doing.
When anybody just says blindlytrust the plan or like, I'm
seeing that too. I'm seeing alot of people that are just
saying, look, whatever Trumpdoes, I trust it. That's

(20:48):
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So what's also been interestingwith this in this whole
discussion is actually, I thinkthat let me pull up one more. I
had another tweet I wanna pullup here that I had saved. Let me

(22:16):
find here something that JordanPeterson had shared, which I
think is important for us to getinto talking about this report
that came out. Let's see. Idon't have it immediately to
pull up.
That's okay. Basic or so I Ihave it to reference. Oh, here
we go. Great. This is it righthere.

(22:37):
Well, for one actually, okay.Let me take a step back. So
there was this report that wasdone by this think tank or group
that basically was talking abouthow this this there's this
massive divide in in MAGA, buthow this divide in MAGA was tied
to all of these bots that weretied to Iran and Muslim groups.

(22:59):
So, basically so you look at,like, what people like Lori
Loomer are saying, like, in herpublic spats with Tucker
Carlson, which I have a littleclip from Tucker's interview
with Ted Cruz. I'll be showingin a little bit here.
But, basically, what what she'ssaying is that she because,
Tucker is coming out, and he'squestioning the motives of
supporting Israel the way thatwe are. He's questioning, okay.

(23:21):
Do we really have our do wereally wanna go back into a war?
Which I think are relativelyrational questions to be asking.
What she's saying is that Tuckeris being funded by Muslims, and
and and she had a report thatshe, kinda released that it
seemed to be not that accurate,talking about how Tucker was
being funded by, I think it'spronounced Cutter, like, Q yeah.

(23:42):
Qatar, if you would call itQatar. Think it's called Cutter.
And and it seemed like that thatand there's some community
notes. It's like it wasn'tactually that accurate. However,
what's happening though is thatwe were seeing is that it's like
the people that are pro, war,the people they're supporting
and falling in line saying,look.
We'll support Israel to thedeath. I absolutely support, you
know, kind of bombing Iran orwhatever it takes to for them to

(24:04):
get rid of nuclear weapons. It'slike those people are becoming
part of, like, the approvedgroup, but then people that are
are not a not a kind of part ofthat group, they're being
accused of being, pro Muslim,you know, kind of taking money
from The Middle East. There'sbeen a lot of accusations or,
you know, being thrown aroundabout people, you know, taking
money from foreign countries.And I do have to I mean, I'm

(24:26):
curious, like, what kind of, youknow, journalists and
influencers that Israel ispaying.
Because if we're talking aboutpeople that are being paid
potentially by other foreignnations, like, we can't forget
Israel. So, like, are theypaying? Because it seems like
there's a lot of influencers,very prominent, that, like,
don't dare question anythingabout Israel. And it's it's it's
a little bit strange. When youlook at Daily Wire, you know,

(24:47):
they won't really say anythingnegative about Israel, but then
you also look and you see, oh,wait.
Here's a picture of JordanPeterson and Ben Shapiro having
dinner with Benjamin Netanyahu.Or if you look at, Tim Pool on
his show, where, you know,again, they they he's very
careful about anything as itrelates to Israel, whether
you're talking about the the theship that was the the false flag
with the naval ship that wasblown up or any other number of

(25:09):
things. Yet, Tim Pool was alsorecently at some sort of closed
meeting with I think I forgetwhat it was, whether it was I'm
not sure if it was with anyway,he was with the you know, with
with Israel, basically. It waskind of like a closed media
meeting where they're trying tohelp kinda guide what's being
said about Israel. So there's alot that makes me think that
there's that basically, there'stwo sides playing this here.

(25:30):
Right? I'm not gonna say thatanybody that supports Israel is
paid by Israel. There's lot ofpeople that that support Israel
for very just reasons, and and Iagree with some of the reasons.
Likewise, I'm not gonna say thatanybody who is anti Israel is is
paid by the communist or theMuslims. Right?
It's like, well, maybe some ofthem are. I think there's a lot
of people that are just tryingto figure out what's what's

(25:51):
kinda left, what's right, what'sup and down. And granted, I do
think that there are lots ofpeople, especially a lot of
podcasters, social mediainfluencers that are being paid
by nefarious agencies, whetherthey're countries or groups or
whatever. But I wanna kinda Iwanna kinda pull in this this
report that came out because soJordan Peterson had shared this,

(26:12):
and kind of like, oh, this is agroundbreaking report. Here's
the report.
Was put up by the NCR, theNetwork Contagion Research
Institute. Basically saying, itsays false flags and fake may
fake MAGA, how foreign andinauthentic networks use fake
speech to destabilize the rightfrom within. Now I'm not it's

(26:33):
it's a pretty big report to me,a 22 page report. I'm not gonna
go into all of the specificdetails, but what they're
identifying here is that thereis this bot army. They're saying
is like a pro Russia, pro Iran,kind of pro Muslim bot army that
is, really kind of working tocreate this division.

(26:56):
So, again, the division thatI've mentioned so far,
especially with Laura Loomerbeing at the center of a lot of
that because she's very vocalabout what she thinks, and she's
been attacking a lot of peopleunapologetically, which, you
know, look. I I I commend peoplefor going against the the the
grain and for saying what theyreally think. But the you look
at the divisions being createdby that, it's basically, it's

(27:16):
like it's like you're eitherwith it's like you're either
with Israel, and you support thekind of unconditional
destruction of Iran on behalf ofIsrael and on behalf of
protecting America frompotential nukes in Iran, which,
again, we talked about that. I'msuspicious about whether that's
even true or So there's there'sbeen this division that's kinda
started here, butsimultaneously, you have this

(27:38):
other report that just sohappens to come out at this
exact time saying that a lot ofthese big voices that are
opposing the war, that areopposing Israel are bots or are
paid actors, or there's allkinds of suspicious behavior
around them. And so my firstquestion with this is like,
okay.
Well, this network contagionresearch institute, who's behind

(28:03):
it? Right? Who's paying forthis? Because ain't that you
know, you've probably seen thistoo that a lot times, like, oh,
this report comes out about, youknow, racism in America. It's
like, okay.
Who funded the report? It'slike, oh, it's a report funded
by George Soros. Okay. Yeah. Iknow where to file that report.
So looking at, okay, who theleadership team is. Right? So
the top person on leadershipteam is Joel Finkelstein or

(28:24):
Finkelstein. He is the chiefscience officer and cofounder.
Okay.
That's fine. So Finkelstein,probably a Jewish name. It's not
a problem. Right? I mean, butmaybe it's is it a coincidence
or not?
Well, it just so happens to bethat this guy was also one of
the prominent people at the ADLADL. Right? The anti def
definition definition AntiDefamation League, which is a

(28:48):
extremely pro Israel,organization. So there's a so,
again, look at the timing ofthis. You've got this huge
divide happening.
It's basically within MAGA. Nowkeep in mind, over the last, I'd
probably say, six months, thewhole kinda questioning of
Israel and and people kindaquestioning, do they support

(29:09):
Israel, or who's behind Israel,or are the Jews involved? Like,
this whole dialogue has reallybecome very, very mainstream,
and you're seeing a lot ofpeople being very vocal about
this. I mean, you're evenhaving, like, AI translated
speeches from Hitler going viralon TikTok and stuff. So, like,
people are questioningnarratives or questioning things

(29:30):
that haven't been questioned forquite some time.
You've got a lot more peoplepublicly talking about World War
two and and what they callrevisionist history. And so
people are asking some questionsthat I think are very, very
fundamental. And I think thatthe people that don't want those
questions to be asked areuncomfortable. And so part of if
you look at what's happeningright now and you look at a lot

(29:53):
of the recent antisemitism lawsthat have been pushed for in
America, it just seems like thatthere is some sort of initiative
to make sure that this growing,I think, more populist movement
that is saying, look. We're notjust gonna go fight whatever war
Israel says, or we're not justgonna stand by them like I'm I'm
truly America first, and I don'tcare what other country you

(30:14):
know, what their problems are.
Those are their problems. Itjust seems like that there is
some sort of, inorganic kind ofmovement to make sure that that
populist movement of questioningIsrael does not gain too much
traction. And so if you look atwhat's currently happening now,
even Laura Loomer calling forTrump to punish the people who

(30:35):
are second guessing what he'sdoing in relationship to Israel
and Iran. You look at thosereport coming out saying that,
oh, all these people, theseprominent influencers that are
questioning Israel, they've got,you know, Iranian and Russian
bots behind them. It's just kindof an odd scenario.
Just it feels like there's somesort of social engineering
operation happening right here.Now I'll go to, champagne Joshi

(30:59):
over on Twitter, who actuallydoes a great breakdown of the
people that are actually behindthis report. He says, I'd like
to take you to take a wild guessabout who funds the Network
Contagion Research Institute,the organization who made this
report, who made the report thisarticle, and professor Peterson
is referencing. Because again,Jordan Peterson was was
referencing this. He says, youknow your boy wasn't going to

(31:21):
just take it at face value giventhe peculiar timing of its
release and the very convenientfindings.
Again, he's seeing the samething I'm seeing. You'll never
guess. So this these are thedifferent organizations that
have ties to it. The AntiDefamation League, George Soros'
Open Society Foundations, theCharles Koch Foundation, Hetz,
an Israeli organization that hasprivately raised funds for NCRI,

(31:41):
the Israel on campus coalition.It see it said in 02/2021, the
ICC donated 335,000 to the NCRIfor a grant to build social
media analysis.
Oh, that's not all. According toa 2021 PBS article, it says a
dinner meeting in October 2019at Princeton University would
change the NCRI's orbit. There,Finkelstein, the founder of

(32:04):
NCRI, found himself sittingacross from general John r
Allen, president of theBrookings Institute and a
retired four star general andformer commander of the NATO and
US forces in Afghanistan. Hetold Alan what he was doing, and
he was instantly intrigued,Finkelstein said. It would turn
out that it was Alan who openedall the doors for me going

(32:25):
forward.
So now we have NATO and Pentagoninvolvement. Oh, but that's not
all. Let's take a look at thestrategic advisers. So this guy
these are different advisers inCRI, the director of research at
Google, a psychiatrist andretired US army brigadier
general. Know, basically, thelist goes on.
Right? These are pretty seriouspeople. So, again, if we look at

(32:50):
this, the timing of all thishappening, then you have this
report that comes out that says,oh, this is why there's this
huge divide in MAGA because wehave all these these Russian
and, Iranian and all these botsthat are kinda amplifying. And,
actually, the the the realAmericans this also what they're
saying is that there's a studythat Mark Levin was kinda
hammering on the the study.Supposedly, there's this polling

(33:12):
that said, think it was upwardsof, like, 80% of conservatives
actually were pro bombing Iran.
And that does also doesn't makesense. Right? And you know that
they can use they can use pollsand surveys and all these things
to manipulate public opinion. Soit just seems like most
Americans actually, I'll showyou. Let's see right here.
Charlie Kirk, who is very, very,very pro Israel. Like, don't you

(33:37):
dare ask, you know, questionIsrael at one of his kind of,
you know, ask me anything typeof questions. He gets pretty
moved if you do. But he put aput a a poll out there saying,
should the US government getinvolved in Israel's war against
Iran? 90% of the people said no.
Now keep in mind, this is almosthalf a million votes with, you
know, almost 7,000,000 views. Iwould say that, you know, a lot

(34:00):
of the followers of Charlie Kirkare probably gonna be more pro
Israel than, say, followers ofJake Shields. Right? There's
nothing inherently wrong withthat and just saying that, like,
you know, like, I like prepping.I'd say that a lot of my
followers are probably more intoprepping than someone who's
watching a channel on sports.
Right? It just the kind of basicextrapolation of information

(34:23):
there. So my guess is that basedupon this, it's like at least
90% of the American people areprobably not interested in in
going to a war with Iran. Yet,they're also quoting this poll,
and Mark Levin's quoting a pollclaiming that 80% of Americans
do want that. So I I tend totrust this.
I tend to trust the actual voteson Charlie Kirk's post there.

(34:45):
But getting back into this,though, you know, as I mentioned
that, you know, this guy, Joshi,he kind of opened the door and
and and showed us this that,this report has a lot of
suspicious characters fundingit. People that you would

(35:05):
typically say have a particularagenda. And so I think that
that's what this kinda tiesinto. Now, I wanna then kinda
take a step back now and go to arecent Greg Reese, video.
So Greg Reese, who I from mykind of position in watching the
work he does, he seems to bevery objective, especially now

(35:26):
that he's not even working forAlex Jones network. I mean, my
take on him is he's actuallypretty he's just looking for the
truth. And when he does hislittle videos, he presents
facts. He's not saying they'rejust giving a bunch of opinions
on things. He's just kindawalking you through historical
documents and everything.
And so he put together a recent,video, one of his recent
reports, which is highlightingjust kind of like the history

(35:48):
between Iran and Israel. So I'llplay this for you. It's about
five it's five minutes long. I'mgonna play this for you though,
because this is really helpfulfor just for understanding this
entire situation. Again, andthis is the point of this show
today is to try to walk youthrough the process that I'm
going through in trying to makesense of what's happening over

(36:08):
there.
So I'll play this for you, andthis should hopefully be,
insightful for you.

Speaker 7 (36:18):
An Arab Palestine is a threat to Great Britain and a
menace to the world. A JewishPalestine is an asset to Great
Britain and a blessing to theworld.

Speaker 8 (36:34):
From its inception, Israel began the ethnic
cleansing of Palestinians livingon the land given to them by the
British crown. The new Israelisused biological warfare by
poisoning village wells, whichwas considered a war crime but
ignored. In the early nineteenseventies, Israel supplied
weapons and intelligence to aidSouth Africa's apartheid

(36:58):
movement in return for weaponsgrade uranium. In 1982,
thousands of Palestinians wereexecuted in Israeli run refugee
camps, and the UN GeneralAssembly labeled it an act of
genocide. In 1994, Israelsupplied weapons to support the
Rwanda genocide, which murderedabout 800,000 people.

(37:20):
In 02/2006, Israel was accusedof war crimes after deploying
cluster bombs in civilian areas.Israel supplied weapons and
training to South Sudaneseforces during their civil war
where war crimes were rampant.Israel sold weapons to Myanmar's
military during its two thousandseventeen Rohingya genocide.

(37:42):
Meanwhile, British imperialismhas been infiltrating Persia for
over a century. In 1891, theGujar dynasty sold Persia's
entire tobacco industry toBritain for £15,000.
In nineteen o two, they soldexclusive oil rights to Britain,
who then formed the AngloPersian Oil Company. In 1935,

(38:06):
when Persia was renamed Iran,the name was changed to the
Anglo Iranian Oil Company.Iranian leadership had all the
appearances of being vassals tothe British crown until 1951
when Iran elected MohammedMosaddegh as prime minister and
voted to nationalize their oil.Time magazine called him the

(38:29):
Iranian George Washington andman of the year, but the British
view was that Iran had juststolen their biggest oil source.
They organized an internationalboycott and began seizing
tankers carrying Iranian oil.
With the help of Alan Dulles andthe CIA, British intelligence
ran Operation Ajax. MohammedReza Shah was taken into

(38:53):
protective custody by Britishintelligence and received cash
from the CIA. After Mosaddeghwas overthrown in 1953, Mohammed
Reza Shah was returned to Iranand put back in power, where he
began forming alliances withIsraeli businesses and the US
military. In 1954, the AngloIranian oil company became

(39:15):
British Petroleum Company or BP,and Mohammed Reza Shah was seen
as a puppet of the crown. Butthings changed.
The Shah became critical ofIsrael after their 1967 war
crimes. And by the nineteenseventies, the shah had
initiated the formation of theOrganization of the Petroleum

(39:36):
Exporting Countries, OPEC, andopenly planned to terminate the
1954 consortium agreement, whichprovided Western oil companies
50% ownership of Iranian oil.The shah officially gave an
ultimatum that the consortiumagreement would be terminated in
1979. But by 1979, the Iranianrevolution was led by the

(40:00):
Ayatollah Khomeini, who wasaccused a year prior of being a
British agent. And the 1954consortium agreement was
nullified by the IslamicRepublic.
This marked the end of Westerncontrol over Iran's oil and the
beginning of Iran becomingpublic enemy number one in the
West. After 09/11, Iran becamethe final target in the US

(40:23):
military's long series ofdestabilizing governments. They
are now in the crosshairs, andReza Pallavi, the crown prince
of the Pallavi dynasty, puppetto the British crown, and
Zionist is being sold to thepeople as a new leader. Greg
Reiss reporting.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
So, again, helpful report. Everything he's showing
there, he he I like how he showsthe actual articles where you
can go read this information foryourself. But the bigger picture
here, and this is what I want Iwanna kinda get to in conclusion
of this, is that all wars arebankers' wars. And I think that

(41:12):
a lot of what's happening isthat. I think that the if you
look at if you take a step backand you look at the global
banking system, and you look athow this this debt based system
is really, really ending.
Like, it's it's kinda nearingthe end. And I've done so many
shows on this, and you justkinda go back and you'll see a
lot of them. But the financialsystem that our world is run on,

(41:35):
especially with the dollar beingthe world reserve currency as a
fiat currency, they havecompletely overprinted. This
whole system is, like, on the onthe verge of collapsing. And
there's been a lot of peoplelike, you know, Martin
Arndestrog, for instance, who'swho said this over and over
again is they they need a war.
Right? They need a war to resetthe global financial system. And
so that's why you see so manypeople calling for war. And so

(41:59):
whereas a lot of people aresaying, look. I think it's you
know, blame Israel.
It's it's Israel. It's APAC.They control that. They control
The United States politician.Israel is just another puppet.
Right? You have to remember,like, go back the origins of
Israel, the Balfour Declaration.I mean, Israel goes straight
back into the Rothschild'sbanking dynasty. I mean, if you
look at what's happening, wecan't just look at the

(42:20):
individual countries, individualleaders, even Netanyahu.
Netanyahu is just a puppet.
Right? Like, he's just a puppet.Like, he's you know, to to think
that really any world leader yousee has this complete autonomy,
well, sometimes it happens, butthen those world leaders, they
last a year or two before theyget overthrown by a CIA coup,
and they get hung out the dry.They get mutilated and and and
murdered. Right?

(42:41):
And they they bring somebodyelse in. And so I do think that
a lot of this goes back to theBritish crown. It goes back to
the banking families, and itgoes it's well beyond just
Israel. And, actually, I thinkin a lot of ways, even if you
look at the two different kindof opposing forces of this this
more Western alliance, you couldsay, you know, Israel, NATO, the
crown, The United States upagainst these, you know, these

(43:03):
BRICS countries in this kind ofglobal, tug of war for control
over the world. Like, in manyways, I think the same hands are
controlling both sides of that.
And and they're just and that'swhat it is. Like, at every
level. Right? So you come downto the basic level in America,
it's left black versus white.You go up a little bit higher.
It's this state versus thatstate. It's this country versus
that country. Right? And andeven even higher level, it's

(43:25):
just, you know, multiple globalfactions, global cabals that are
really kind of fighting back andforth for control over the
world. But I think if you keeptracing those things up, you
find it's the same evil bankingfamilies and and and kind of
bloodlines that are controllingall of this and making sure that
our world always has perpetualwar.
They're using these wars toredraw property lines, to seize

(43:47):
different natural resources, tomake sure they've got control of
the oil, etcetera. And that'sreally what this is. Like, in a
much higher level, there'ssomething much bigger going on
here that is is bigger thanIsrael. It's bigger than
America. There's a much largertug of war happening right now.
But one thing I did mention thatI wanted to cover was just this
interview with, Tucker Carlsonand and Ted Cruz. And this again

(44:08):
highlights something that Ithink is just is worth
mentioning. So I'll play just ashort clip. So this is Ted Cruz
in this discussion with Tucker.Okay?
I'll play it the first, like,thirty, forty seconds of it.
Watch this.

Speaker 9 (44:23):
I've never taken money from the Israel lobby.
Have you?

Speaker 10 (44:27):
Taken money from the Israel

Speaker 9 (44:28):
From APAC.

Speaker 10 (44:29):
So APAC raises a lot of money for me, but it's
actually a misnomer because thepeople who raise money are
individuals. So it's not thepack itself, but they're
individual members who believein the American Israeli
friendship and Is it

Speaker 9 (44:42):
a pact of foreign lobby?

Speaker 10 (44:43):
No. It's an American lobby. It's the APAC stands for
the America Israeli politicalaction. What is

Speaker 9 (44:48):
it lobby for?

Speaker 10 (44:49):
So to be honest, not a whole lot effectively. Listen,
I came into to Congress thirteenyears ago Yes. With the stated
intention of being the leadingdefender of Israel in the United
States Senate. Great. I'veworked

Speaker 1 (45:03):
So so I'll play that again real quickly. I'm not sure
if if you wanted to say this sopublicly, but he said that I
came into this position,political position, with the
stated intention of becoming,what, the number one defender of
Israel? Let me play this again.Guys, listen.

Speaker 10 (45:18):
So to be honest, not a whole lot effectively. Listen.
I came into to congress thirteenyears ago with the stated
intention of being the leadingdefender of Israel in the United
States Senate.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Great.

Speaker 10 (45:31):
I've worked every day to do that. APAC a lot of
times

Speaker 1 (45:37):
So, anyway, I where are our loyalties? Like, you
would think that our electedpoliticians would say, I came
into this role to be to doeverything I could possibly do
to improve the American empire,to make life better for
Americans, to make our countrysafer and more successful. But

(46:00):
when he comes in his statestate, his intention, right, as
he says it very clearly, was todefend Israel. To me, it it just
it rubs me the wrong way. Itjust does.
And so when you see people likethat, like Ted Cruz, that are,
or say, like, Mark Levin, yousee these people that are so

(46:23):
like, they're war hawks. Right?They're what you call the
neocons. Right? That it's like,they want war.
They want war. To me, it seemsthat there's something else
pulling the strings here,whether it's ties into, say,
Epstein and blackmail operationsor any number of things. It just
doesn't seem like these arepeople that are, like, just
acting out of their own goodwillfor America. Like, there are so

(46:45):
many agendas happening here. ButI I will I will kinda finish up
with one short video from,Putin.
And look, I'm not saying I'm I'mpro Putin. I'm just like, you
know, he's he's a world leader.I listen to what the world
leaders say. So let me just playthis little quick video here. I
mean, it's a minute fifty long.
I'm play the whole thing, but Iwanna just play this for you
because it's helpful tounderstand what happens at the

(47:09):
upper levels of politics. Thingsthat we never see, we never know
about. I think he reveals alittle bit here. Now he's
speaking I'm not sure if the,for the podcast listeners, I
might read over what he'ssaying, because I I think that
it's not translated in English,so you can listen to it. It's
just the, captions in the video.
So, I will give the audio,translation for this. I've

(47:34):
already spoken to three USpresidents. They come and go,
but politics stay the same atall times. Do you know why?
Because of the powerfulbureaucracy.
When a person is elected, theymay have some ideas. Then people
with briefcases arrived welldressed wearing dark suits just
like mine except for the red tiesince they wear black or dark

(47:57):
blue ones. These people startexplaining how things are
instantly, everything changes.This is what happens with every
administration. Changing thingsis not easy, and I say this
without any irony.
It's not that someone does notwant to, but because it is a
hard thing to do. Take Obama, aforward thinking man, a liberal

(48:19):
Democrat. Did he not pledge toshut down Guantanamo before his
election? But did he do it? No,he did not.
And may I ask why not? Did henot want to do it? He wanted to,
I'm sure he did, but it did notwork out. He sincerely wanted to

(48:40):
do it, but not succeed since itturned out to be very
complicated. This is not themain issue, however, even though
it is important, since it ishard to fathom that people have
been walking there in chains fordecades without trial or
investigation.
Can you imagine France or Russiaacting this way? This world
would have been a disaster, Butit is possible in The United

(49:01):
States and continues to thisday. This refers to the question
of democracy, by the way. Irefer this example just to show
you that it's not as simple asit may seem. That said, I'm
cautiously optimistic.
I think that we can and shouldbe able to reach agreements on
key issues. So I can stop therewith that. But, basically, what
and what he's saying is thatit's like these elected

(49:25):
officials, they walk in. Theythink that they can do certain
things. But on day one, they gettaken into a backroom.
They get sat down, people withsuits and dark ties, and they're
told how things are going to be.And so did Trump have that same
experience? Did he have allthese campaign promises, to Kash
Patel, Dan Bongino, Pam Bondi?Did a lot of these people have

(49:46):
the greatest of intentions untilthey entered into this beastly
system, and they're told howthings are going to be? I don't
know.
Like, I would like to believethat these people all have the
best of intentions for ourcountry, and maybe they're
working within their currentcurrent restraints. Like, look
at RFK junior. I think that hehasn't had these secret meetings
with big pharma where theyexplain things how how things
really work. Like, the systemthat we're up against is not

(50:09):
it's not easy. And so, like,when I look at people this, they
they now, like, they're antiTrump now.
So, look, he's he's he'scompletely turned his back on us
and everything. Like, well,okay. Yeah. There are certain
things I do feel like, okay.That's not what I was wanting.
But I also I'm not gonna be sonaive to think that he has his
full power. Like, who's who'scommanding what he is doing?

(50:31):
Because he's up against, again,like, this multi thousand year
old death cult that wants toexterminate mankind. Like, I
have no idea what those closedmeetings are looking like for
him, but we still have to holdour leaders to, what what they
promised us. And so that's whyI'm I'm very vocal.
Like, I'm, you know, I'm gladthat Trump got in. I as opposed

(50:51):
to Harris. Like, maybe you'rethe same. I'd assume so if
you're watching this show, butI'm still gonna be second
guessing what he's doing andsaying, hey. Like, it's it's my
responsibility, like, as acitizen in this country to keep
my our leaders in check, and soI'm going to do that.
But I think it's just reallycomplicated, and that's that's
kind of what I was showing youwith this show today is I think
that there's a lot of hiddenhands that are controlling the

(51:14):
charade or the the kabukitheater that we're seeing. And
the arguments on Twitter, thesereports that are coming out,
like, all I can sense is thatright now, there's some sort of
very significant psychologicaloperation going on, and it's
hitting, like, all areas. It'shitting all segments of the
population. It doesn't matterwhether you're, like, alt alt
right or center right or centerleft or far left. It's like

(51:38):
there's there's an operationgoing on, like, with all of us,
and that's just my sense withthis.
There's so much bigger that'shappening here. And so,
hopefully, this was helpful,like the the what I pulled
together for you. In closing, Ido have something kinda fun to
show you. Yeah. This I thinkit's this might be an AI video
that was generated, but, there'ssome funny stuff coming out.
I think that we have to kind ofend this on some laughs. So and

(52:01):
I there's nothing I love more tolaugh at than just good sarcasm.
So I'm gonna show you this. Thisis a a video that was produced.
I'll just play it for you.
You're you're gonna enjoy this.It's obviously it is it is a
tongue in cheek video. It's aparody video. It's not real.

Speaker 9 (52:20):
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Speaker 11 (52:24):
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Speaker 9 (52:26):
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Speaker 11 (52:28):
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meat. I switch to seed oils onlybecause, duh, health.
And here I am. We're here with aman who's just glowing from head
to toe. Sir, what's your secretto your health?

Speaker 9 (52:38):
Statins and blood pressure meds. Hold up. I'm
about to have a heart attack.

Speaker 11 (52:42):
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cancer. That's why I do this.

Speaker 9 (52:47):
Good thing they listen to their doctors. Not
much more they can actually do.

Speaker 11 (52:50):
True. Let's thank big pharma for being the main
source of funding of all of ourpropaganda.

Speaker 10 (52:55):
Sponsored by Pfizer, the largest criminal
organization to ever do it.

Speaker 9 (53:01):
We promise to take the red dye out of the skittles.
Skittles. Oh, thank God. Red dyewas the real emergency. Let's
not talk about the other colors,the fluoride, the chemtrails,
and the deadly mRNA altering ourDNA.
Back to you, Jenny.

Speaker 11 (53:12):
Thanks, John. We're here at the Local seven Eleven
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Speaker 9 (53:20):
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Jessica goes live to find outhow to prevent it.

Speaker 11 (53:28):
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Speaker 8 (53:31):
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Speaker 11 (53:35):
What's the best way to stay healthy in today's
world?

Speaker 9 (53:38):
The key to getting healthy

Speaker 10 (53:39):
is lowering your cholesterol. Trust me. I'm a
doctor.

Speaker 8 (53:42):
Look. Just trust your fat doctor. He once watched a
one hour lecture on nutrition.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
I think that some of it's kinda sad. I mean, but it's
actually pretty funny,unfortunately. So anyway, as
we're concluding today, Iappreciate you sticking with me
for the show. Thank you forwatching. I'm gonna gonna be
trying to do more of these, youknow, one on one things and
start doing some more, q anda's, and just kind of
conversation with you.

(54:09):
And my one of my goals is toactually have a call in portion.
So we're not there yet, but I Iwanna actually have a call in
portion of the phone of the showwhere you can call in. I can
talk to you. And like, you know,I get lonely just staring at a
teleprompter. I'd love to talkto some real people like you.
So, anyway, thank you for beinghere. If you've watched the
show, if you enjoyed it, pleaseshare. Make sure you're
subscribing to wherever you'rewatching. And I'll be back

(54:32):
again, I think, tomorrow nightwith another show coming out.
So, yeah, just thank you.
Let me know in the comments whatyou think. Whether you like it,
this show or not, like, whetheryou agree with me or disagree
with me. Now, of course,there's, the trolls that come on
there, they just call me namesand stuff, and I smile because
it's like, okay. I'm not I'm notreally that bothered by you.
Some random name calling menames on online.
But I I love hearing yourfeedback. I love when you say,

(54:54):
hey, Seth. You missed somethinghere, or this point really
helped me, because I I I readmost of what you tell me, and I
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