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July 15, 2025 34 mins

Hey hey friend,

Today, we’re diving headfirst into the wild, wonderful world of curiosity and lifelong learning. You know us—two self-proclaimed nerds who believe that asking “why?” is the first step to growing as a leader (and as a human!). 

We’re sharing stories about what it means to admit you don’t know it all (spoiler: nobody does!), how to embrace the unknown, and why it’s okay to not have all the answers—whether you’re running a team, a household, or just trying to figure out what game you’re even playing! 🎲

We’ll talk about filling up your “toy box” with new skills, the importance of pausing to rest and reflect (yes, even you, busy bee! 🐝), and how to turn all that knowledge into real, juicy fruit for your team to enjoy. ✨

Plus, we’re keeping it real about the pressures of leadership, the need for boundaries, and why sometimes you just need to take a walk and let your brain marinate. And don’t worry—we’re serving up plenty of laughs, a few spicy sidebars, and a whole lot of encouragement to keep you learning, leading, and living well. 💖

So, pour yourself a cup of something good, get comfy, and join us as we remind you: stay curious, rest up, and remember—when you live well, you lead well! 🌱

xo,

Kishshana & Maria 

Tune in to hear:

  • How to embrace curiosity and acknowledge what you don’t know as a path to growth 🌱 
  • How to turn new knowledge into action (instead of just collecting information!) and share it with your team 🚀 
  • How to make space for rest and reflection after intense learning or big projects, so you can lead with fresh energy ✨

Episode Overview

  • (02:30) Acknowledging Knowledge Gaps as Leaders  
  • (04:40) The Pressures of Management & Team Expectations  
  • (10:20) Learning About Yourself and Your Team  
  • (13:25) Filling Your Toy Box: Approaching Learning as Play  
  • (17:10) Turning Knowledge into Action: The Domino Effect  
  • (22:00) Avoiding the Trap of Just Collecting Information  
  • (24:40) The Importance of Rest and Reflection  
  • (26:30) Planning for Learning and Implementation  
  • (29:45) Staying Curious & Teasing the Next Episode

Powerful Quotes

"Acknowledging what you don’t know is one of the first baby bird steps you could take to growth." -Kishshana 

"When you don’t acknowledge what you don’t know, you really trap yourself into some of the behavior that we love to hate." -Kishshana 

"You can’t play if you don’t have more toys in your toy box." -Kishshana 

"Learning also means resting before you activate on what you’ve learned." -Kishshana 

"Before you have a plan, you got to have a vision. Before you have the vision, you need to understand what does success look like in this season of my life?" -Kishshana 

"Stay curious, rest up, and remember—when you live well, you lead well!" -Kishshana 

"Be open to new perspectives and try to seek out feedback." -Maria 

"No one person knows everything, and you most certainly do not know what you don’t know." -Maria 

"Sometimes we default to cognitive, because we’re a cognitive forward culture, even if that’s not our primary modality." -Maria 

"If you have people on your team like this, find that out quickly, because they need space to mess up to learn." -Maria 

"The challenge then becomes knowledge to wisdom, as applying your new knowledge effectively." -Maria 

"If you don’t do the work of harvesting, which is this application we’re talking about, your fruit will rot." -Maria 

"The goal that I’m offering is I want to know more than I knew the last time." -Maria

Let’s go...

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