February 12, 2024 • 57 mins
Unlock your potential with the wisdom of financial sage and high-performance coach Derick Gant, as he joins us to reveal the fundamentals of his "The 24K Life Code." This episode is a treasure trove of insights, offering a new perspective on success that transcends the allure of motivation. Together, we probe the essence of self-mastery, where your actions, emotions, and words become the building blocks of a life free from monetary chains. With Derick's guidance, discover the importance of sculpting a success path that's as individual as your fingerprint, and the transformative power of aligning your daily practices with your loftiest goals.
Who said motivation is the end-all and be-all of achieving your dreams? This conversation challenges that notion, emphasizing the might of habit over the fleeting nature of inspiration. We dive into the gritty details of what it takes to forge a path of personal success and growth, celebrating each small victory and the compound effect they have on your journey. Derick and I debunk the myth that other people's successes are intimidating barriers, and instead, we encourage you to find solace in your unique voyage towards a '24k life'—a life of richness in every sense.
Closing the episode, we share the art of setting dynamic goals and the vitality of taking action. We illuminate the impact of day 19 in habit formation, drawing inspiration from Strava's research, and reflect on the life-altering 75 Hard challenge. This conversation highlights the value of external guidance, likening it to the timeless wisdom passed down through history's greatest minds. So, as you set sail on your personal odyssey, remember the power of belief and manifestation and let gratitude be your compass. We're grateful for your companionship on this adventure and look forward to continuing this journey with you.
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Greg Kuhn (00:12):
Welcome everybody to another lifting, exciting
episode of Manifest the BigStuff.
I'm Greg Kuhn.
I'm your Mindset Coach.
You might call me a ManifestingCoach.
I get super excited aboutsharing information that helps
you turn up your ManifestingPower, and today I have got a
(00:34):
great guest for you.
His name is Derick Gant andhe's somebody that I haven't
known long, but I know prettywell.
I know that he has a tremendousamount to share with us today
and I cannot wait to dig intogrowing your 24K life growing a
(01:00):
24K life with Derick Gant.
Derick, say hi to everybody,please, hey thanks, Greg, so
much.
Derick Gant (01:09):
Hello everybody, I'm happy to be here.
I'm excited to share what alittle bit I've learned over the
last 30, 40 years and to sharesome great insights and ideas.
Greg Kuhn (01:20):
Well, that's a very humble introduction for yourself
, Derick.
I want to add to what Derickhas said and just let you know
that Derick Gant is a financialexpert.
He is also a high performancecoach and he's got 25 years of
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experience in this genre.
He knows what he's talkingabout.
You're about to find that outfor yourself.
He authored the book the 24Klife code the only difference
between mediocrity and greatness, which is a guide to achieving
your best and getting theresults that you've been seeking
(02:06):
.
Derick works with clients bytaking complicated concepts and
delivering them inunderstandable terms, so we're
really going to lean on him todo that with us today, and his
well-known mantra, which ismaster your mind and you will
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always be free, is going to beone of our guiding lights for
today's conversation.
That mantra has enabled him toachieve mental, physical and
financial abundance withthousands of clients.
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For the clients and for theirfamilies.
Is that a fair introduction foryou, Derick?
Derick Gant (02:59):
Absolutely, man, every drop of it.
I like the part that youfocused on that the book is a
guide.
Because it is a guide, so manypeople that write books want to
share how they became successfuland they want to say here's the
mold and you need to just walkthe walk that I walked and
you'll also reach where I am.
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And it's just not true.
We all have to figure out ourunique code to manifest our own
personal greatness, which is whyhaving a manifestation expert
and manifestation coach likeyourself is so critical and
important to all of us.
Greg Kuhn (03:37):
Well, of course I'm going to agree with you there,
Derick.
Let me start out by asking you,because I really keyed in on
something you just shared A lotof times in life, I know, for me
, I have tried to manifest agoal, tried to attain a goal by
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following the directions or theinstructions that the best ones
I could get my hands on.
I'm going to guess that thatdescription does not do justice
for how you got to where you aretoday.
Can you tell us a little bitabout your background?
(04:22):
At least Tell us about your why?
Derick Gant (04:27):
Yeah, absolutely.
We think that everything thatwe do is unique and it's 100%
ours.
But as I got towards the it'snot the end of my investment
advisory career, but moretowards the end of it I've been
doing it for 25, 30 years andyou started to really hone in on
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what I wanted to do to completethe last 25% of my life.
What I was able to do in mylife I realized through an
illness and some quiet time ofserious contemplation extended
quiet time that I had so muchmore to do.
(05:11):
For me personally, I focus veryheavily on identifying or
helping people identify whattheir purpose is and then giving
them the structure of how toaccomplish that.
So, for me personally, my whyis I was put here to help as
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many people as possible financethis is going to sound really
weird, but to finance their why.
I was put here to help otherpeople finance their why.
So when you look at your purposeand you look at your dreams and
your goals and what you want toaccomplish in the world, most
people don't understand or can'tconceive how to monetize their
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dreams, so have always wanted towork with the poor.
Well, how am I going to eat ifI'm helping poorer people, or
somebody else might say I reallywant to work with young,
distressed ladies that arestruggling but they can't find
the monetary piece or they can'tafford to launch either their
business, their ideas, theirconcepts.
(06:14):
So my why is to takecomplicated financial concepts
as well as the concepts for lifearen't complicated but to
identify those core procedures,those core tactics that people
need to implement in order toreach their highest ability.
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I won't say potential, becausewe never reach our potential,
but to reach your highestability.
So my why is to hey, let mehelp you get your money right so
that you can dig in and livethe best life that you can,
given the tools that God gaveyou, and make money at it at the
same time, so that you don'thave to live in poverty while
you're along the way.
Greg Kuhn (06:59):
I love that when you are addressing I believe I hear
you addressing your life purposein the sense that you're
helping others reach their lifepurpose, find their life purpose
.
Tell us a little bit about thatsecond piece, about that
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structure.
I often say, Derick, that tomanifest extraordinary things in
life, sometimes or often weneed to be willing to do things
other people aren't.
Now, those things aren'tnecessarily all extraordinary
things, they're not all havingto be, you know, herculean feats
(07:43):
, but in my experience they doneed to be done consistently.
Speak to that a little bit,please.
Tell us about some of thestructure that comprises your
life, that makes you the 24KLife Code coach.
Derick Gant (08:00):
Yeah, so you know you nailed it on the head and
I'm just going to kind ofextract it out just a little bit
more.
But you know you mentioned mypersonal quote, which is master
your mind and you'll always befree.
But the hardest thing that wehave to do in life, the single
most hardest thing that we haveto do in life, is to master
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ourselves, to master our actions, our reactions, our emotions,
our words, and so hence mysaying master your mind.
If you can master yourself,then you will always know what's
going to happen, because youare in control of how you're
going to react or act based onany multitude of giving
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circumstances.
And I will add that it's a lifejourney.
So let me say that, before Italk about you know the ways
that I operate personally, letme say that you know becoming
24K is not becoming rich, it'sbecoming solid gold, personally
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in the areas that you're amazingat.
So I am really good at helpingpeople figure out their
financial hurdles and putting itinto practice where they can
make it work for them, at alayman's level, not necessarily
a sophisticated investment guyslevel.
I also do really well athelping people identify what's
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holding them back.
As you mentioned, most peoplearen't willing to do what needs
to be done to become who theyreally should be.
And so for me personally, Ilike to take a look at the five
core areas.
So I look at, you know, myfinancial life, of course, my
fitness life, my spiritual life,my physical life and then my
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relationships.
And so we look at those fiveareas and you say, if one of
them is lacking, or one of themis lacking severely, you are out
of balance.
I mean, I ask guys all the timekind of laughingly, if you had
all the money you wanted and youwere close to God, or you knew
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you had a great spiritual lifeand a great relationship, but
you were severely overweight andcouldn't get up and down stairs
, is that a quality life?
Are you going to be able to dothe things?
Are you free to move and to andfro?
And what about your health?
You know, are you going to beshackled?
Or if you're in great physicalshape, great financial shape,
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you have great relationships andyour mind says tight, but you
have no spirituality, I meanyou're morally corrupt.
You know now you're reeping andso on.
So there is no area.
So for me personally, Greg, toanswer your question in a
shorter version, is that youknow, I understand the number
one rule, and that is disciplineis freedom.
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Most people think thatdiscipline is punishment, by the
way we were raised, butdiscipline is freedom.
When you know what you're goingto do, then you know what the
results are going to be.
And when you know what theresults are going to be, you
know if you're if that's theresults that you want, if you
want to accept them or not.
So how do I do it?
I'm disciplined in all of thoseareas.
(11:14):
Um so, and I have routines,habits and things that I do to
remind myself of my routines andmy habits could be something as
simple as a phone alarm thatreminds me to take my meds at a
certain time because I'll forget, or to to you know, once a week
it'll be to reach out and checkon my sister because if I don't
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put it in my alarm, I might notyou know, might, it might miss
it.
So that gives you a briefanswer of of what I do.
But it's all about beingdisciplined and most people
can't stay in that work.
Greg Kuhn (11:48):
Let's dive into that word just just for a moment,
Derick.
I think that's a great word andI really I'm resonating with
the way that you introduce it.
It can be scary, it's a little.
Discipline can be a anoff-putting word when I lack it
more than when I have it right.
(12:11):
Do you what?
What sorts of things do you do?
I realize that you're not astatic Individual.
You're growing, you're changing.
I see your business growing andevolving right in front of my
eyes.
Obviously, as we grow andchange the new vistas open for
us, we see even morepossibilities, sort of like
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climbing a mountain and andreaching a plateau that we
thought was the top of themountain, but really we see that
there's further to climb.
You know, on one hand we cansay, oh crap, I got more to go.
On the other hand, we can say,oh sweet, this isn't the end,
right, I mean, there's more.
(12:53):
And you know wherever I am onthat spectrum.
You know I may be a little moreempowered some days, a little
less empowered others.
Right, what to talk to us aboutthat kind of motivation?
Because I know, unless you're apart, unless you, Derick Gant,
or somebody who just rolls outof bed and Flicks a switch and
(13:16):
bam, instant motivation.
Talk to us about that.
Derick Gant (13:19):
Yeah, you know, I think at different stages of
your life you're motivated anddriven by different things.
The number one by far thing isthat I believe motivation is
overrated, because if you waituntil you feel excited, if you
wait until you feel good, verylittle is going to get done.
(13:40):
Not that you never feel good or, you know, want to do things,
but I mean, man, it's motivationis such a up and down roller
coaster, as you've alreadyindicated.
So so if you create the, thehabits of doing things, if you
want to or not the given exampleCan't stand going to the gym,
but I love it when people go.
Oh my god, you look great.
(14:00):
How old are you?
Oh my god, I wish I looked asgood as you at your age.
And so you know you love theresults, you hate the process,
and if I was going to wait forthe motivation of somebody to
tell me how great I looked towant to go work out again, you
know I wouldn't be verysuccessful at that at all.
And so we want to understandthat motivation is overrated and
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you want to get yourself into ahabit of doing whatever it
happens to be.
And so one of the things yousaid I thought was pretty cool
was you know about Three yearsago I hired a spiritual coach
because I figured you know what,that's the one area that I can,
I can really grow in.
That is equally as important asthe other areas that I mentioned
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.
And I and I did that and what Ilearned which is so stupid
because you've heard it abillion times but I learned what
it really meant number one, tobe present and number two, to
stop and smell the roses.
Because, you know, in my lifeI've always been goal oriented,
so it's, it's been, it's beenachievement oriented.
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So we we're going to play onthis team and our goal is to
never lose and to be thechampions and the host hoist up
the trophy.
You know, when I was in highschool, it was to get a
scholarship.
When I was in college, it was togo pro, and so you always had
these huge things that that thatwere the prize at the end of
the rainbow and then, as long asthere was another rainbow with
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another prize, you're, you'regood.
But once you get to a certainpoint where you have most of the
rainbows and the prizes, thenyou're saying, okay, well, you
know, motivation isn't servingme right now because I don't
have this huge next big thing,and so for me, it was tapping
into what I really thought I wasput here to do, which was help
people financially, you know,sustain and improve their life
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and not live check-to-check.
And what I learned was that, nomatter how many wins or losses
I have along the way, to do myabsolute best to enjoy today, to
enjoy this conversation, toenjoy my next client, and take
those small wins Because they,they are motivating or there's
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some learning Nugget inside ofit.
Greg Kuhn (16:14):
Oh, yeah, I love that , you know I do.
I do want to mention Our brain.
You know that that thatChemical dopamine that is the is
is one of the really feel-goodchemicals that our brain
produces.
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Our brain doesn't actually giveus the biggest jolts of
dopamine when we achieve thegoal.
The biggest hits of dopaminecome when we take action, take a
step toward achieving that goal.
Technically, as long as thegoal, as long as we find the
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goal to be a reasonable one anda highly desirable one, a step
toward it, taking action towardit is where the dopamine comes
in.
So I want to ask you a littlebit about that.
I, you know motivation, what'sit?
There's a famous quote by zigziggler.
(17:17):
I think we're.
Supposedly somebody challengedhim.
You know zig, motivationdoesn't last, and he said yeah,
that's right, neither doesbathing.
That's why we recommend itevery day, and and and that's
funny and fun and true.
You know it rings true with us.
And don't we all lovemotivation, and don't we all
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love to be motivated and feelmotivated?
But I Find it very interestingthe idea that I can Help to
craft my own motivation bytaking small steps toward the
attainment of a goal.
You know when I, when I look atyou and You're a.
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You're an inspiring person.
You're certainly anaccomplished person.
I Could look at you and feelintimidated and say, you know,
maybe I'm comparing my insightsto your outsides and you know
I'm watching this and I'mthinking to myself yeah, I would
like a better life.
(18:22):
You named off, you know, fivelife areas that are integral for
human fulfillment.
As as the five areas you focuson, I'd like a better life, but
I'm just not the same.
I'm not that kind of personlike Derick is.
I'm not a.
I'm just not as much of ago-getter.
I don't have as much confidenceyou know I don't but Maybe some
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of those things that he'stalking about aren't for me.
What do you say to that person?
Because I know they're watchingright now.
Derick Gant (18:53):
Yeah, you know, that's the beauty of it, man I
this is not gonna sound puttycorrect now I wasn't born
politically correct, so forgiveme or your audience if they if
they, you know take offense toit, but please don't.
You know, when my kids wereyounger, in school, you know, I
graduated from college.
My their mom graduated fromcollege, and we're encouraging
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them to go to private schoolsand then graduate from college
and they struggle pretty muchbecause they had no appreciation
for higher education.
So I used to tell them I said,listen, you know, here's, here's
the thing that I want you tounderstand.
I Don't care if you and nobodypumps gas anymore.
So that's why I always use thisanalogy I don't care if you
like work as a gas stationattendant and pump gas, or if
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you're the president and CEO ofChrista Corporation.
What I care is that you haveoptions and choices.
And so what I'm really sayingto the audience is that, you
know, I Used to think everybodyshould be type a, everybody
should be going for the jugularand everybody should want to win
the Super Bowl and everybody,you know she want to get
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straight a's.
And then I realized that we allhave something incredibly
Incredibly unique and differentat different levels.
Giving an example, I'm one ofwhat?
Three million financialadvisors, but I'm the only one
that delivers the content in mymindset, in my voice, based on
my experiences, to people thatcan understand me.
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And so when we talk about, youknow, the 24k life code is just
like our genetic Code.
You may like to operate at aseven.
I like to operate at a eightand a half to nine.
When I operate at ten, I burnout.
Some people can only operate ateleven, ten, eleven or twelve,
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right, and it only goes to ten,but they overperform and they
can't operate unless they do,and so are.
The cool part is to find yourcode, your, your amount of Time
that you spend here, the amountof time that you spend in
relationships with the amount oftime you spend in the gym.
Some people need to spend hoursin there.
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I only like to spend 30 minutes, and so the code is figuring
out what you want, what makesyou feel accomplished, what
makes you feel like you'regiving back love to the world in
a way that honors your life.
And what does that take?
Does it take you getting upearly in the morning, staying up
late at night?
But we all have a Dynamic and Icall it a code that we need to
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figure out, to figure out how weoperate best.
And then you just forget abouteverybody else, right?
Because what you were saying alittle bit earlier is that it's
comparison.
No, we, we can't compare.
I can't compare to you, or youknow, you're a massive
successful runner.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't last,you know, 35 minutes, 32 minutes
.
I'm tapping out.
So that's the key.
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I mean and if and I want to add, greg, that I don't want people
to think that I don't useoutside tools as motivation.
I use YouTube talks, I listento your podcast.
I, you know, talk to you andlisten to your testimonials
about how your clients aremanifesting better lives.
All these things are motivation.
When I help a client and theythat you can see the lights go
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on and their life starts tochange or their relationship
changes.
You won't.
I can't imagine how manyrelationship compliments I get
because I fixed the moneyproblem and they no, no, they no
longer fight about money insidetheir relationship.
Greg Kuhn (22:24):
Huge oh man, I tell you what Our financial advisor.
I have told her numerous timesthat she really should bill
herself as a marriage counselor.
I totally agree.
You know, kind of speaks tothat.
You know the, the, the risingtide lifts all boats sometimes,
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doesn't it?
Do you find that when you, whenyou are bringing that 24k, you
know juice to one or more partsof your life, it does infuse, it
does have a bleed over effect,doesn't?
Derick Gant (23:00):
it hundred percent and I can tell you and I'll tell
your listeners, because you'retalking about Manifesting, which
means that we are manifestingour own lives ourselves.
I always start with the thingsI can control and to me, I can
control.
I may not be able to controlwhat I'm thinking about, because
maybe I'm so overwhelmed oranxious that I can't get a
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Thought out of my head orprocess properly, but I can
control going to the gym, I cancontrol working out, I can
control, you know, what goes onthe end of my fork, and then
that makes me feel goodphysically, which makes my
internal organs and In hormonesand all those things work better
, which makes me feel goodMentally, and then it starts to
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spill over in your actions andyour words and the other things.
So so absolutely.
Greg Kuhn (23:50):
I love that.
Jumping back to something thatyou were saying earlier about
knowing what you want.
You know what do you want, andthen that naturally opening up
the door to exploring.
Okay, how can I then begin tomanifest that in my life?
How can I begin to achieve thatin my life?
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You know it might be a littlesilly, but I always say that if
you want to hit a target, theone key thing that has to be in
place first is there has to be atarget.
Derick Gant (24:27):
Exactly.
Greg Kuhn (24:29):
And so you know, speak to that.
Do you find that for you?
Speak to this personally,please, but also with an eye
toward speaking to me and ouraudience?
You have targets in your lifethat drive you that help you
plan, that, inform you movingforward.
(24:52):
Are those targets dynamic?
I assume that they must be.
And how do you approach thatfluctuation?
Because I know, you know,there's discouragement along the
way.
There's, you know, sometimesthere's dead ends, there's
obstacles.
We get rerouted unexpectedly.
Those things are sometimesfrustrating.
(25:14):
Oh, 100%, yeah, talk a littlebit about that please.
Derick Gant (25:18):
Yeah, you know, setting the target has to be
dynamic, because if you'reserious about it and you
mentioned it earlier you knowsetting a goal that you believe
that you can within your grasp,and so when you set a goal or
target and you hit it, then youneed a new one.
And so you know, or there'slevels to it.
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So you know your end game, endgame might be to influence 10
million people financially, youknow on a regular basis, but you
know I have to get to 100,000first.
So your, your big target mightbe 10 million, but you need to
hit 100 along the way, and thenyou know so.
So it's constantly, it'sconstantly moving, and I believe
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that that what I've learnedpersonally is that, instead of
looking for, instead of lookingjust at the target, it's like
what did I gain today that I canalways use as I move towards
hitting this target and how didthat affect me today, so that I
don't have to continuouslyrelearn the day.
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You remember Groundhog Day, andevery day they started from
scratch and they tried toremember and warn people hey,
this is going to happen, so thatthey can get to some, some
breakout solution.
And so for me, it's a matter ofit's a matter of saying, you
know, I am enjoying my time, howdo I feel right now, and that
tells me if I'm on the righttrack or not.
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And and I'll tell you that thatit's.
It's frustrating because ifyou're a competitive person, on
top of the other things that wetalked about, you're also
competing against yourself.
You know I did.
You know what did I do thistime last year, is my goal
different than last year?
Right now I'm competing becauseI changed my business model.
You know I'm trying to land theairplane, so to speak.
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You know we've taken off, we'veflown at a high altitude for a
really long time, and so melanding is going from get
investment advisors and being afitness coach to being a
financial coach, versus being ahands on advisor and helping
more people, more and morepeople, which is why I wrote the
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book, so that we could get tomillions of people compared to,
you know, be talking one on one.
You can only talk to so manypeople a day.
So if you're out there and youhave a goal or you don't have a
goal, you know I believe thatyou start with what you bet.
You know it'd be great to dowhat you love to do, and most
people preach that.
I like to say do what you dobest, because you're going to be
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less frustrated.
And if you do what you do best,you're less frustrated, you do
it with ease and then you canstart to gravitate towards what
you absolutely love.
You know, and hopefully maybeyou'll become, you'll come to
love what you do best becauseyou do it best for a reason.
Greg Kuhn (28:07):
Yeah, yeah, I like that, Derick.
You know I'm thinking aboutwhat you said Especially.
You said you know, what did Ilearn today?
What did I learn today?
That can, that can really, youknow, add to my toolbox or add
to my practices, or give me someconfidence, something I can
hang my head on, that sort ofthing.
(28:29):
You know, I've I've beenplaying with this phrase in that
has come up in my journal inthe last two days, where I think
I'm an, I'm calling myself anSOB and and that means student
of better.
I'm a student of better, youknow, and and just taking that
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approach, and so when I look atmy life, and I look at the parts
of my life where I ammanifesting the most fulfilling
experiences, the most successfulexperiences by, by the metrics
that I'm choosing, and, andreally those are parts of my
life where I'm using the realityI manifest to inform me, to
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guide me on my journey of, youknow, learning, growing and
changing, rather than using myreality to define me, my worth,
my value, who and what I am, andyou know, is that I'm.
I'm looking at you, yourpractice, the, the coaching that
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you do, the community that youhave built and are building, and
you've used the term journey,you know, numerous times during
our conversation today aboutbeing a student.
Because I, because I know thatit's inspiring for me to listen
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to you your energy is isnaturally I feel, naturally
motivating and very genuine.
So if I'm starting in a place,though, where that's not where I
am, you know, maybe it's withmy financial life, maybe my
career.
You know, I've got a job.
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I just don't see and understandopportunity there.
I have money, you know, I getpaid, but I just don't see
abundance there.
You know, I don't seeopportunities for abundance
there.
Or maybe it's my love life ormy parenting or, like you said,
my health and fitness.
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What's what's taking that firststep like and is taking that
first step?
Is it all that different fromtaking the step you're taking
right now, which might be stepnumber, you know, 682?
Derick Gant (30:59):
Yeah, the first step is always the hardest.
You know it is the hardest step.
You know, making a decision,making a decision that you're
going to Make an aggressivechange, making a decision that
the life that you're living in,whatever area you're looking for
improvement on, isn'tacceptable.
And that's why you know we putthe subtitle there the only
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difference between mediocrityand greatness is to figure out
what you need to do and then andthen focus a hundred percent on
the next step.
You know what is the next step?
And the first one, to me, isalways the most difficult,
because Change is difficult andpeople don't like change, they
like comfort, they likecomplacency.
Because you know, you know thebest, the best weapon I have is,
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I mean, the best problem I haveis the one I know I have.
You know, you know, and peopleare afraid of things that will
never happen, and so it becomesvery difficult For most people.
You know they'll decide, butbut an 85% of New Year's
resolutions are torched and doneby the second week of the year,
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I mean, within two weeks, thatresolution is dead and over, and
so, you know, it becomesimperative to just focus on the
next step, the next dollar,right, if we're talking about
about, about your nutrition,what's your next meal?
So I can't complain about thepizza a last week.
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All I can do is not eat onetoday, you know so.
And if I do, what did I learnfrom eating the whole pizza last
week?
Well, I learned that I'm notgood.
I just wasted three days worthof working out, you know.
So it's just focusing on.
We can't change yesterday, sowe just focus on the next thing
that's in front of us, the nextprayer, the next meditation, the
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next meal, the next thing Iwant to manifest and Focus on
the next step of the target.
So you have your destination.
And I tell people all the timewe've talked about this before,
greg is that the first thingthat you do in modern times,
when you want to go somewherethat you don't know where you're
going, is you put in where youare, and then it says where do
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you want to go?
And then it says pick the bestroute that you.
You know.
Here's five routes.
Which one do you want to take?
And then you look at the routesand you go.
Well, this is on the expressway, and I'm not that big big of a
fan of the expressway.
This one's over here, butthere's a roadblock, this one
over here, but we have to gothrough the tunnel.
So which one?
We got to take?
One because we know where we'restarting from and we know where
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we're going.
Which one do we want to do?
And then figuring out thatalong the way, everything's okay
because it's getting you toyour target and that is.
Greg Kuhn (33:48):
That's a beautiful metaphor.
It you know what you're makingme think of something, derek.
I recently read Some dataanalysis that Strava did and for
people who are listening, whoare not familiar, strava is A
workout tracking app a lot ofrunners use I.
I use run keeper Look me up onrun keeper it's Greg Kuhn, easy
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to find and and add me will runtogether.
But Strava Analyzed over 800million data points and they
they calculated that for theaverage person, day 19 of a new
habit is quitter stay.
Day 19 is quitter stay and youknow what it's a.
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I was glad to to learn thatmyth.
I was an interesting thing tolearn.
I'm currently in the middle ofdoing 75 hard, which is, I was
told, a trendy Way of Infusingsome very beneficial practices
into one's life.
Right, I, yeah, I work outevery day for 90 minutes.
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I read at least 10 pages ofnonfiction, I drink a gallon of
water and Seems like I'mforgetting sugar.
Maybe I'm not doing the whole75 hard.
I think it's no shit.
I think no sugar is one of them,isn't it?
No sugar?
Oh yeah, the diet, that's right, I get.
Thank you, I, I, I.
I Select the diet.
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You know that I'm gonna follow,and then I do it without
cheating that good, thank youfor the reminder.
Derick Gant (35:26):
And you gotta do one indoor workout, one outdoor
workout, if I my memory servesme, correct.
Greg Kuhn (35:32):
It's actually correct , Derick.
Please quit adding requirementsto this.
You're making it more difficultfor me as we speak.
I shouldn't have brought it up,that's right, well, we did it?
Derick Gant (35:42):
We did 75 soft.
I called it.
I swear to God, I called it 75soft.
In our in the 24k lifecommunity we did a 75 day
challenge but we called it 75soft because I wasn't doing two
workouts.
I'm too old to do two workoutsa day, man.
Greg Kuhn (35:57):
Okay, so I'm doing it and and yeah, I, you're right,
45 and 45 it's a split, thereason I bring it up.
Talk to us about the importance.
You know our.
(36:18):
Correct me if I'm wrong, and Idon't think you will.
So much of this journey, I meanI can't say 100% of it is an
Inner journey, but the vast 99%of it is an inner journey right.
Everything happens in here.
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First, that is a hundredpercent our, our insides
manifest our external world.
So, but you know that feedback,that guidance from external
sources, it may not be a hugepercentage of what's manifesting
our external world Mm-hmm, ifit were, that would be a little
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bit like, you know, asking thecanvas to paint itself.
But that 1% that comes fromoutside of us, you know, wow, it
has the potential to make sucha powerful impact.
Now you coach, you get coached,same as me, right?
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You also run a community ofpeople, so you're deep into the
world of that 1%.
You know that that necessary,beneficial, often life-changing
outside help.
Right, talk to us about therole that plays in Developing
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this 24k life.
Derick Gant (37:54):
Yeah, you know it's interesting way.
I've never heard it put thatway and I don't disagree.
I do agree that 1% is a lotright, so To to have.
Here's my take as an American,and I would say I don't like to
say I'm typical at anything, butlet's just say, as a typical
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American, I Want the fastest wayto where I'm trying to go, even
though, even though I'm a join,you know the process, because I
want to get there, because Iknow there's somewhere else to
go after that, and so that 1%,greg is, is what we offer and I
say we because your coach alsois what we offer, based on our
experience and circumstance as a, as an idea of how to Help
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someone else do their inner work.
Right, because it is a hundredpercent inside job.
But the 1% that says look, thisis the inner work you need to
be focused on right now, basedon where you are, where you're
going and what's happening inyour universe, and that 1% is is
really important and that's whyI don't think that that these
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modern kids and I'm gonna saykids, and I don't want to try to
cause a fight with any othergeneration, but they don't.
You know you don't value booksas much.
The average American doesn'tread one book a year.
But but that what you're reallysaying is that there's a book
out there that will change yourlife.
It will change the way you seesomething.
It will change the way you lookat something.
It'll change the way youunderstand something.
(39:25):
You know, I was watching adocumentary this weekend and
they were really short documentdocumentaries on all the auto
car makers.
You know, chevrolet was aFrench guy, obviously.
Ford, olds mobile these wereauto car makers, olds mobile
these were all individuals.
All these car names wereindividuals.
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They that started makingbicycles almost all of them
started making bicycles and thengraduated on to to automobiles,
and they all failed like ahundred times.
They all failed like a hundred.
It was incredible when you golook at and you think that you
know Four guys.
You know, did he?
Did he even live to see themagnificence of what he created?
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And so my point in saying allthis is Is that you're a hundred
percent right.
You know we could learnsomething.
You know Ford learned somethingfrom the Dodge brothers.
He hired the Dodge brothers andthey came in and taught him
some things that helped him makebetter forts, and so we all
need that spark, or that guidinglight to say, hey, you know
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what?
I know it's an inside job, butlet's shine a little more light
on this Part of the inside jobso that you can get where you're
trying to go without falling inthe too many pit holes and
having to climb out of them toget back to even.
And that's the work that we doas coaches, that's the things we
do in the community.
Hey, look over here.
If you're really strugglingfinancially, look.
(40:50):
Look here, I'm telling youwhere to look.
Now you have to take that andapply it to your own personal
spending habits, your own needs,the bills that you've put into
place and your credit and allthose type of things.
But this is where you should belooking at right now.
And that's the beauty of havinga coach, having an advisor and
and having somebody that's beenthere.
They've helped thousands ofother people's get there, so
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that means that they'llthousands of ways to help you
possibly get yours too.
Greg Kuhn (41:17):
To surround ourselves , just to continue illustrating
what you're saying.
If, as best as we can, surroundourselves with other people who
are like-minded, who aresimilarly goal-oriented, who are
growth-minded, those sorts ofthings, I mean, is that
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typically it's close?
Derick Gant (41:43):
it's close.
I would say that the statisticsprove that you don't want to be
the smartest man in the room.
You don't want to be thesmartest woman in the room.
You don't want to be the onethat knows everything.
You want to surround yourselfwith like-minded people but that
know more than you do, becausejust by their sheer actions,
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activities and insights, theirverbits, their beliefs, it's
going to elevate you.
And if you're like-minded, thenyou're on the right track.
If you drink whiskey, youshouldn't be in a wine room.
Greg Kuhn (42:17):
Right.
Yeah, I spent some time as anexecutive director of a board of
directors and I often toldthose folks that when we were
problem-solving, that if theidea I brought to the room winds
up being the idea that we use,I'm going to be mad at them,
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because my goal always I agreewith you wholeheartedly.
I don't want to be the smartestperson in the room.
That is not to me anadvantageous point.
I want to be a student.
Right, you want to be a student.
Derick Gant (42:52):
Absolutely.
Greg Kuhn (42:54):
I do.
You know, Derick, we'restarting to butt up against time
, not reaching a hard stop yetby any means.
But I definitely want to comeback to one thing you mentioned
and you've talked about thejourney and this, to me, this is
a really key question.
(43:15):
I really want to hear you knowyou pop the hood and let us in
on some of your inner mechanisms, which you've been doing so
openly.
Thank you for that.
So let's continue that.
The journey.
You know, learning for the sakeof learning, the intrinsic value
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, if you will, where the journeyis the gift, the growth is the
gift, right, and at the sametime, like, for example, with
money, for me the journey is thegift and I also want the money.
I don't just want the journey,I want the money.
(43:59):
And I know that there have beentimes in my life and probably
somebody listening is in thesame position where what it was
that I wanted, I needed it.
You know, I've had a sit, atime in my life where I
desperately needed money toavoid some calamitous
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circumstances.
I was going to be goingbankrupt and have 15
foreclosures and, you know, justdestroy my life.
I needed the money.
Now, that need didn'tnecessarily at all change.
The truth of the journey beingthe true treasure, right, but
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how do you personally stayfocused on the journey and how
do you help others stay focusedon the journey, especially when
that desire is a need, and, and,and it's fiery hot and it's
hard to stop thinking about whatit is that I don't have yet?
Derick Gant (45:04):
Yeah, you know the funny part about that, man and
this is my experience withclients specifically from a
financial perspective and from afitness perspective, so the
areas that I know a whole lotabout.
Funny thing about that is thatyou don't have to worry or
enforce people to focus on thejourney.
When they're in need anddesperation, they are focused.
It's when they get slightly outof it that they get comfortable
(45:28):
, lose focus and they eitherslide back in the total hell
Right, or they improve a littlebit and then they get easy, they
get comfortable and they stopthe habits and the focus that
they use to get there.
So you know, when you havesomething, I personally believe
that people get what they need.
I don't think the people getwhat they want as often as they
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get what they need, and so myconcept is the how do we turn
your wants to needs?
So I started changing my ownverbiage.
You know I need a communitywith 10,000 members.
I don't want one, I need one.
And so you start to have thatconversation with yourself.
But I don't, I don't disagreewith with your, with your, with
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your point and from myperspective.
I give you an example havesomebody, that's that you know
they're behind on their mortgageor their water is going to get
cut off and they're just,they're just bad shape and they
come to us and we, they it lookslike we work magic, but we do
what we do.
We get them in a position wherethey know they get to keep
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their house, the water is stillflowing, they're still going to
work and they might get let'ssay, this happens more often
than not they get a tax refundof $3,000, $4,000.
They get them close to beingokay.
Then they get $3,400,000, theygo up.
Don't need your advice, I'mgreat, right.
And this happens in in March,april, by June they are dying on
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the vine again because theynever changed the principles,
they never changed the valuestructure, they never changed
their habit structure or theydidn't adopt it to a belief.
They did it for a temporaryband aid.
You know, it's like constantlyputting a bandaid on something
to meet stitches.
Here You're in trouble.
So that's what I find.
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And so you know, for those thatare listening, you know, pick
one thing if you're, if you havefive things that we talked
about that are five core areasand you're lacking in two of
them.
You know, I don't guess how oldyou are my age, you got to
tackle both of them at the sametime.
If you're younger, tackle oneof them and just focus on that,
stay present on that, get thatout of your way and then you can
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move on to the next one and doyour best to maintain.
Greg Kuhn (47:46):
Oh, that's such fantastic advice.
You know you mentioned, Derick,people get what they need, yeah
, and I got to say somebodyprobably many somebody's
watching this need to hear whatwe are sharing today and, thanks
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to your generosity and opennessand our willingness to get
together, they are getting tohear it.
That's a wonderful thing.
Let's really take the value forthis person to a whole nother
level.
All right, derek, you, you arebeing asked to.
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You know, have a consultationwith somebody who has a strong
desire.
They, they really want that 24klife.
They really want, you know,they really want the financial
freedom.
They want the personal freedom,spiritual freedom, the health,
the fitness, whatnot.
(48:52):
And so they're coming to youand saying, Derick Gant, tell me
, tell me what I should do,what's your top advice?
Where do I start?
What's my first step?
How do I structure things?
Give us, give us the whole kitand caboodle, lay it out for us.
Derick Gant (49:16):
Well, I was.
The first thing I'll say isthat that is by far my ultimate
favorite person, right?
I mean somebody who says thaton a scale of I asked this
question when I interviewedpeople because I can't work with
everybody, because I can't takeit personally, you know, as a
very driven alpha type guy, Ican't take people that are
wishy-washy.
So so the person that says, ona scale of one to 10, I am an 11
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on my desire to live a 24k lifeand change the trajectory of
where I am, that's so number oneadmitting where you are,
knowing where you are and beingat that level where you really
don't have a choice.
This is what I'm going to do.
And then it's just a matter ofyou know.
It's a combination of how muchtime do they have?
You know?
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Do you want, like the turboboosted?
You know how to get this going?
We're going to do all five atonce, and are you capable of
doing that?
Or do you want to just tacklethese two areas?
So it depends on the person.
But, man, I'll unload and dump.
And here's the cool part formyself, if I can say about
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myself, is that there's adifference between an advisor
and a coach.
A coach is going to help youfigure out what's next for you.
An advisor is going to say,greg, pick up the phone and call
20 people that you interviewedlast year that were your top
interviews and tell them youwant to follow up and that's
going to get you 20 interviewslike that.
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So an advisor is going to tellyou what to do based on all the
information that you give us.
A coach is going to help youfigure out.
Now I do some coaching, butmost of what I do is advising,
and so what you're just askingme is spot on.
It's like, if I get a guy,let's take it.
Let's take a Derek Gann.
You got a 55 year old male whowants to be in the best shape of
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55 year old can be in.
You want.
You want more stable finances.
You have a relationship, but itcould be could be a little
better.
You have some semblance ofspirituality.
I'm going to start you off onall of it.
So we're going to do fiveminutes of quiet time, like as
in prayer, meditation.
That's going to be included inyour day.
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So you're going to.
You know, we're going to pick afitness goal based on what your
level is, if it doesn't work outat all, then we're going to go.
We're going to do our best toget you know, 15 minute walk in.
If you, with your finances, goto your checkbook and write down
, categorize everything that youspent the last 30 days.
So go to your online bankingstatement, print it off and
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figure out how much was gas, howmuch was food, how much was
dining out, how much wasgroceries, how much was clothes,
how much was gambling.
So we figured it all out.
Let's see where your money is.
And then and so we're going todo all of these things Do you
have date night with your spouseor your partner?
So, if you are 24k aggressive,that's where we're starting with
you and I know it's too muchand it's too much for 99% of
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people, but we'll start peoplewhere they are.
So our coaching, our advice,our programs are tailor made
based on you know what peoplehave in mind.
You, you reached out and we, wechopped it up when we first met
and we ended up spending threehours on the phone together,
right, and that was totallyunscripted and totally
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beneficial for both of us thatit was, that it was, and this
has been totally beneficial forme.
Greg Kuhn (52:45):
I know that it's been totally beneficial for others.
By the way, I'm 56.
Derick, I think you need somegray hair man, no it's there.
Derick Gant (52:57):
It was my dark skin cover, some of it up, but yeah,
I got a few strands up top.
I got a few strands up top.
Greg Kuhn (53:03):
Well, when you cross over to the gray side, I predict
you will enjoy, you know, assomebody who is very intentional
about his health and fitness.
Here's what I predict you willfind that as you get the gray
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hair, it'll add another elementof outside appreciation because
people will understand how muchyou're bucking the odds, so to
speak.
Gotcha, you know with the grayhair, and so you have a lot to
look forward to there.
That's always good to have thaton the horizon, always ready.
Derick, I have to say wedefinitely made good on our
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intention today to createsomething of value, you know, to
bring some very valuablecontent forth through our
discussion.
Can you let folks know whatdoes Derick Gant have going on?
What's on the forefront of youractivities today?
(54:14):
And, of course, in addition tothat, what's the best way for
someone to engage with DerickGant right now?
Derick Gant (54:23):
That's awesome, yep .
So we decided that this year wewanna focus on helping people
get out of debt.
You know we do the other thingsand inside of our community
just so people understand, wehave brilliant minds like Greg
come in to do workshops andprograms so that they can get
access to a variety of expertsinside one kind of hub, if you
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will, that's the 24K Life Code.
So if they wanted to downloadthe 24K Life Code on their
Android, their Play Store or theApple Store, they can go to
that and download the 24K LifeCode.
It's a great place to start.
You can message us, you cantext us.
We have a free version, we havea paid version, so it just
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depends on just getting yourselfstarted.
What we have on the horizon iswe're running these workshops,
and they are workshops wherepeople can pull out their pen
and pad and take step-by-stepnotes to figure out where they
are with their debt and what'sgood debt, what's bad debt, how
to get rid of the bad debt, howto increase their cash flow so
that they can then spend moretime doing the things that are
(55:30):
important to their life'spurpose.
Greg Kuhn (55:33):
Oh, wow, I love that and just to say I know that in
watching and listening to ourconversation folks are getting a
good, healthy dose of thegenuine energy, the sincerity
that's on display here, and Ipersonally can attest to
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Derick's heart and Derick'sfocus.
It's a real pleasure, Derick,to get to introduce you to new
people.
Derick Gant (56:04):
I enjoyed my time with you, man.
Greg Kuhn (56:06):
Yes, thank you so much for taking the time.
And, as we wrap up here and Iremind folks to go ahead and
make sure that, if you haven't,at the very least join my
Facebook manifesting group.
It's called Manifest the BigStuff with Greg Kuhn Creating
Our Realities Together, that's agreat place to go and get
(56:27):
started.
Make sure you do that today, ifyou haven't.
Derick, thank you so much forbeing here with us.
Thank you, and to everybody whohas made themselves a part of
this conversation by listeningand watching.
Thank you so much for sharingyour time with us.
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We have felt it while we'vebeen talking, even though you
currently haven't watched it yet.
You're watching it right nowand we can feel that all right.
Yes, sir, sir so thank you forsharing your time with us.
There's nothing else morevaluable that you could share.
We really appreciate it.
I never take it for granted.
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I know I speak for Derick andsaying the same, so until we get
a chance to get together againhopefully very soon keep
believing and keep manifesting.
Thanks.
Welcome everybody to another lifting, exciting
episode of Manifest the BigStuff.
I'm Greg Kuhn.
I'm your Mindset Coach.
You might call me a ManifestingCoach.
I get super excited aboutsharing information that helps
you turn up your ManifestingPower, and today I have got a
(00:34):
great guest for you.
His name is Derick Gant andhe's somebody that I haven't
known long, but I know prettywell.
I know that he has a tremendousamount to share with us today
and I cannot wait to dig intogrowing your 24K life growing a
(01:00):
24K life with Derick Gant.
Derick, say hi to everybody,please, hey thanks, Greg, so
much.
Derick Gant (01:09):
Hello everybody, I'm happy to be here.
I'm excited to share what alittle bit I've learned over the
last 30, 40 years and to sharesome great insights and ideas.
Greg Kuhn (01:20):
Well, that's a very humble introduction for yourself
, Derick.
I want to add to what Derickhas said and just let you know
that Derick Gant is a financialexpert.
He is also a high performancecoach and he's got 25 years of
(01:43):
experience in this genre.
He knows what he's talkingabout.
You're about to find that outfor yourself.
He authored the book the 24Klife code the only difference
between mediocrity and greatness, which is a guide to achieving
your best and getting theresults that you've been seeking
(02:06):
.
Derick works with clients bytaking complicated concepts and
delivering them inunderstandable terms, so we're
really going to lean on him todo that with us today, and his
well-known mantra, which ismaster your mind and you will
(02:30):
always be free, is going to beone of our guiding lights for
today's conversation.
That mantra has enabled him toachieve mental, physical and
financial abundance withthousands of clients.
(02:50):
For the clients and for theirfamilies.
Is that a fair introduction foryou, Derick?
Derick Gant (02:59):
Absolutely, man, every drop of it.
I like the part that youfocused on that the book is a
guide.
Because it is a guide, so manypeople that write books want to
share how they became successfuland they want to say here's the
mold and you need to just walkthe walk that I walked and
you'll also reach where I am.
(03:20):
And it's just not true.
We all have to figure out ourunique code to manifest our own
personal greatness, which is whyhaving a manifestation expert
and manifestation coach likeyourself is so critical and
important to all of us.
Greg Kuhn (03:37):
Well, of course I'm going to agree with you there,
Derick.
Let me start out by asking you,because I really keyed in on
something you just shared A lotof times in life, I know, for me
, I have tried to manifest agoal, tried to attain a goal by
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following the directions or theinstructions that the best ones
I could get my hands on.
I'm going to guess that thatdescription does not do justice
for how you got to where you aretoday.
Can you tell us a little bitabout your background?
(04:22):
At least Tell us about your why?
Derick Gant (04:27):
Yeah, absolutely.
We think that everything thatwe do is unique and it's 100%
ours.
But as I got towards the it'snot the end of my investment
advisory career, but moretowards the end of it I've been
doing it for 25, 30 years andyou started to really hone in on
(04:50):
what I wanted to do to completethe last 25% of my life.
What I was able to do in mylife I realized through an
illness and some quiet time ofserious contemplation extended
quiet time that I had so muchmore to do.
(05:11):
For me personally, I focus veryheavily on identifying or
helping people identify whattheir purpose is and then giving
them the structure of how toaccomplish that.
So, for me personally, my whyis I was put here to help as
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many people as possible financethis is going to sound really
weird, but to finance their why.
I was put here to help otherpeople finance their why.
So when you look at your purposeand you look at your dreams and
your goals and what you want toaccomplish in the world, most
people don't understand or can'tconceive how to monetize their
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dreams, so have always wanted towork with the poor.
Well, how am I going to eat ifI'm helping poorer people, or
somebody else might say I reallywant to work with young,
distressed ladies that arestruggling but they can't find
the monetary piece or they can'tafford to launch either their
business, their ideas, theirconcepts.
(06:14):
So my why is to takecomplicated financial concepts
as well as the concepts for lifearen't complicated but to
identify those core procedures,those core tactics that people
need to implement in order toreach their highest ability.
(06:39):
I won't say potential, becausewe never reach our potential,
but to reach your highestability.
So my why is to hey, let mehelp you get your money right so
that you can dig in and livethe best life that you can,
given the tools that God gaveyou, and make money at it at the
same time, so that you don'thave to live in poverty while
you're along the way.
Greg Kuhn (06:59):
I love that when you are addressing I believe I hear
you addressing your life purposein the sense that you're
helping others reach their lifepurpose, find their life purpose
.
Tell us a little bit about thatsecond piece, about that
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structure.
I often say, Derick, that tomanifest extraordinary things in
life, sometimes or often weneed to be willing to do things
other people aren't.
Now, those things aren'tnecessarily all extraordinary
things, they're not all havingto be, you know, herculean feats
(07:43):
, but in my experience they doneed to be done consistently.
Speak to that a little bit,please.
Tell us about some of thestructure that comprises your
life, that makes you the 24KLife Code coach.
Derick Gant (08:00):
Yeah, so you know you nailed it on the head and
I'm just going to kind ofextract it out just a little bit
more.
But you know you mentioned mypersonal quote, which is master
your mind and you'll always befree.
But the hardest thing that wehave to do in life, the single
most hardest thing that we haveto do in life, is to master
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ourselves, to master our actions, our reactions, our emotions,
our words, and so hence mysaying master your mind.
If you can master yourself,then you will always know what's
going to happen, because youare in control of how you're
going to react or act based onany multitude of giving
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circumstances.
And I will add that it's a lifejourney.
So let me say that, before Italk about you know the ways
that I operate personally, letme say that you know becoming
24K is not becoming rich, it'sbecoming solid gold, personally
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in the areas that you're amazingat.
So I am really good at helpingpeople figure out their
financial hurdles and putting itinto practice where they can
make it work for them, at alayman's level, not necessarily
a sophisticated investment guyslevel.
I also do really well athelping people identify what's
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holding them back.
As you mentioned, most peoplearen't willing to do what needs
to be done to become who theyreally should be.
And so for me personally, Ilike to take a look at the five
core areas.
So I look at, you know, myfinancial life, of course, my
fitness life, my spiritual life,my physical life and then my
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relationships.
And so we look at those fiveareas and you say, if one of
them is lacking, or one of themis lacking severely, you are out
of balance.
I mean, I ask guys all the timekind of laughingly, if you had
all the money you wanted and youwere close to God, or you knew
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you had a great spiritual lifeand a great relationship, but
you were severely overweight andcouldn't get up and down stairs
, is that a quality life?
Are you going to be able to dothe things?
Are you free to move and to andfro?
And what about your health?
You know, are you going to beshackled?
Or if you're in great physicalshape, great financial shape,
(10:31):
you have great relationships andyour mind says tight, but you
have no spirituality, I meanyou're morally corrupt.
You know now you're reeping andso on.
So there is no area.
So for me personally, Greg, toanswer your question in a
shorter version, is that youknow, I understand the number
one rule, and that is disciplineis freedom.
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Most people think thatdiscipline is punishment, by the
way we were raised, butdiscipline is freedom.
When you know what you're goingto do, then you know what the
results are going to be.
And when you know what theresults are going to be, you
know if you're if that's theresults that you want, if you
want to accept them or not.
So how do I do it?
I'm disciplined in all of thoseareas.
(11:14):
Um so, and I have routines,habits and things that I do to
remind myself of my routines andmy habits could be something as
simple as a phone alarm thatreminds me to take my meds at a
certain time because I'll forget, or to to you know, once a week
it'll be to reach out and checkon my sister because if I don't
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put it in my alarm, I might notyou know, might, it might miss
it.
So that gives you a briefanswer of of what I do.
But it's all about beingdisciplined and most people
can't stay in that work.
Greg Kuhn (11:48):
Let's dive into that word just just for a moment,
Derick.
I think that's a great word andI really I'm resonating with
the way that you introduce it.
It can be scary, it's a little.
Discipline can be a anoff-putting word when I lack it
more than when I have it right.
(12:11):
Do you what?
What sorts of things do you do?
I realize that you're not astatic Individual.
You're growing, you're changing.
I see your business growing andevolving right in front of my
eyes.
Obviously, as we grow andchange the new vistas open for
us, we see even morepossibilities, sort of like
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climbing a mountain and andreaching a plateau that we
thought was the top of themountain, but really we see that
there's further to climb.
You know, on one hand we cansay, oh crap, I got more to go.
On the other hand, we can say,oh sweet, this isn't the end,
right, I mean, there's more.
(12:53):
And you know wherever I am onthat spectrum.
You know I may be a little moreempowered some days, a little
less empowered others.
Right, what to talk to us aboutthat kind of motivation?
Because I know, unless you're apart, unless you, Derick Gant,
or somebody who just rolls outof bed and Flicks a switch and
(13:16):
bam, instant motivation.
Talk to us about that.
Derick Gant (13:19):
Yeah, you know, I think at different stages of
your life you're motivated anddriven by different things.
The number one by far thing isthat I believe motivation is
overrated, because if you waituntil you feel excited, if you
wait until you feel good, verylittle is going to get done.
(13:40):
Not that you never feel good or, you know, want to do things,
but I mean, man, it's motivationis such a up and down roller
coaster, as you've alreadyindicated.
So so if you create the, thehabits of doing things, if you
want to or not the given exampleCan't stand going to the gym,
but I love it when people go.
Oh my god, you look great.
(14:00):
How old are you?
Oh my god, I wish I looked asgood as you at your age.
And so you know you love theresults, you hate the process,
and if I was going to wait forthe motivation of somebody to
tell me how great I looked towant to go work out again, you
know I wouldn't be verysuccessful at that at all.
And so we want to understandthat motivation is overrated and
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you want to get yourself into ahabit of doing whatever it
happens to be.
And so one of the things yousaid I thought was pretty cool
was you know about Three yearsago I hired a spiritual coach
because I figured you know what,that's the one area that I can,
I can really grow in.
That is equally as important asthe other areas that I mentioned
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.
And I and I did that and what Ilearned which is so stupid
because you've heard it abillion times but I learned what
it really meant number one, tobe present and number two, to
stop and smell the roses.
Because, you know, in my lifeI've always been goal oriented,
so it's, it's been, it's beenachievement oriented.
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So we we're going to play onthis team and our goal is to
never lose and to be thechampions and the host hoist up
the trophy.
You know, when I was in highschool, it was to get a
scholarship.
When I was in college, it was togo pro, and so you always had
these huge things that that thatwere the prize at the end of
the rainbow and then, as long asthere was another rainbow with
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another prize, you're, you'regood.
But once you get to a certainpoint where you have most of the
rainbows and the prizes, thenyou're saying, okay, well, you
know, motivation isn't servingme right now because I don't
have this huge next big thing,and so for me, it was tapping
into what I really thought I wasput here to do, which was help
people financially, you know,sustain and improve their life
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and not live check-to-check.
And what I learned was that, nomatter how many wins or losses
I have along the way, to do myabsolute best to enjoy today, to
enjoy this conversation, toenjoy my next client, and take
those small wins Because they,they are motivating or there's
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some learning Nugget inside ofit.
Greg Kuhn (16:14):
Oh, yeah, I love that , you know I do.
I do want to mention Our brain.
You know that that thatChemical dopamine that is the is
is one of the really feel-goodchemicals that our brain
produces.
(16:35):
Our brain doesn't actually giveus the biggest jolts of
dopamine when we achieve thegoal.
The biggest hits of dopaminecome when we take action, take a
step toward achieving that goal.
Technically, as long as thegoal, as long as we find the
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goal to be a reasonable one anda highly desirable one, a step
toward it, taking action towardit is where the dopamine comes
in.
So I want to ask you a littlebit about that.
I, you know motivation, what'sit?
There's a famous quote by zigziggler.
(17:17):
I think we're.
Supposedly somebody challengedhim.
You know zig, motivationdoesn't last, and he said yeah,
that's right, neither doesbathing.
That's why we recommend itevery day, and and and that's
funny and fun and true.
You know it rings true with us.
And don't we all lovemotivation, and don't we all
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love to be motivated and feelmotivated?
But I Find it very interestingthe idea that I can Help to
craft my own motivation bytaking small steps toward the
attainment of a goal.
You know when I, when I look atyou and You're a.
(18:01):
You're an inspiring person.
You're certainly anaccomplished person.
I Could look at you and feelintimidated and say, you know,
maybe I'm comparing my insightsto your outsides and you know
I'm watching this and I'mthinking to myself yeah, I would
like a better life.
(18:22):
You named off, you know, fivelife areas that are integral for
human fulfillment.
As as the five areas you focuson, I'd like a better life, but
I'm just not the same.
I'm not that kind of personlike Derick is.
I'm not a.
I'm just not as much of ago-getter.
I don't have as much confidenceyou know I don't but Maybe some
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of those things that he'stalking about aren't for me.
What do you say to that person?
Because I know they're watchingright now.
Derick Gant (18:53):
Yeah, you know, that's the beauty of it, man I
this is not gonna sound puttycorrect now I wasn't born
politically correct, so forgiveme or your audience if they if
they, you know take offense toit, but please don't.
You know, when my kids wereyounger, in school, you know, I
graduated from college.
My their mom graduated fromcollege, and we're encouraging
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them to go to private schoolsand then graduate from college
and they struggle pretty muchbecause they had no appreciation
for higher education.
So I used to tell them I said,listen, you know, here's, here's
the thing that I want you tounderstand.
I Don't care if you and nobodypumps gas anymore.
So that's why I always use thisanalogy I don't care if you
like work as a gas stationattendant and pump gas, or if
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you're the president and CEO ofChrista Corporation.
What I care is that you haveoptions and choices.
And so what I'm really sayingto the audience is that, you
know, I Used to think everybodyshould be type a, everybody
should be going for the jugularand everybody should want to win
the Super Bowl and everybody,you know she want to get
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straight a's.
And then I realized that we allhave something incredibly
Incredibly unique and differentat different levels.
Giving an example, I'm one ofwhat?
Three million financialadvisors, but I'm the only one
that delivers the content in mymindset, in my voice, based on
my experiences, to people thatcan understand me.
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And so when we talk about, youknow, the 24k life code is just
like our genetic Code.
You may like to operate at aseven.
I like to operate at a eightand a half to nine.
When I operate at ten, I burnout.
Some people can only operate ateleven, ten, eleven or twelve,
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right, and it only goes to ten,but they overperform and they
can't operate unless they do,and so are.
The cool part is to find yourcode, your, your amount of Time
that you spend here, the amountof time that you spend in
relationships with the amount oftime you spend in the gym.
Some people need to spend hoursin there.
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I only like to spend 30 minutes, and so the code is figuring
out what you want, what makesyou feel accomplished, what
makes you feel like you'regiving back love to the world in
a way that honors your life.
And what does that take?
Does it take you getting upearly in the morning, staying up
late at night?
But we all have a Dynamic and Icall it a code that we need to
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figure out, to figure out how weoperate best.
And then you just forget abouteverybody else, right?
Because what you were saying alittle bit earlier is that it's
comparison.
No, we, we can't compare.
I can't compare to you, or youknow, you're a massive
successful runner.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't last,you know, 35 minutes, 32 minutes
.
I'm tapping out.
So that's the key.
(21:48):
I mean and if and I want to add, greg, that I don't want people
to think that I don't useoutside tools as motivation.
I use YouTube talks, I listento your podcast.
I, you know, talk to you andlisten to your testimonials
about how your clients aremanifesting better lives.
All these things are motivation.
When I help a client and theythat you can see the lights go
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on and their life starts tochange or their relationship
changes.
You won't.
I can't imagine how manyrelationship compliments I get
because I fixed the moneyproblem and they no, no, they no
longer fight about money insidetheir relationship.
Greg Kuhn (22:24):
Huge oh man, I tell you what Our financial advisor.
I have told her numerous timesthat she really should bill
herself as a marriage counselor.
I totally agree.
You know, kind of speaks tothat.
You know the, the, the risingtide lifts all boats sometimes,
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doesn't it?
Do you find that when you, whenyou are bringing that 24k, you
know juice to one or more partsof your life, it does infuse, it
does have a bleed over effect,doesn't?
Derick Gant (23:00):
it hundred percent and I can tell you and I'll tell
your listeners, because you'retalking about Manifesting, which
means that we are manifestingour own lives ourselves.
I always start with the thingsI can control and to me, I can
control.
I may not be able to controlwhat I'm thinking about, because
maybe I'm so overwhelmed oranxious that I can't get a
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Thought out of my head orprocess properly, but I can
control going to the gym, I cancontrol working out, I can
control, you know, what goes onthe end of my fork, and then
that makes me feel goodphysically, which makes my
internal organs and In hormonesand all those things work better
, which makes me feel goodMentally, and then it starts to
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spill over in your actions andyour words and the other things.
So so absolutely.
Greg Kuhn (23:50):
I love that.
Jumping back to something thatyou were saying earlier about
knowing what you want.
You know what do you want, andthen that naturally opening up
the door to exploring.
Okay, how can I then begin tomanifest that in my life?
How can I begin to achieve thatin my life?
(24:12):
You know it might be a littlesilly, but I always say that if
you want to hit a target, theone key thing that has to be in
place first is there has to be atarget.
Derick Gant (24:27):
Exactly.
Greg Kuhn (24:29):
And so you know, speak to that.
Do you find that for you?
Speak to this personally,please, but also with an eye
toward speaking to me and ouraudience?
You have targets in your lifethat drive you that help you
plan, that, inform you movingforward.
(24:52):
Are those targets dynamic?
I assume that they must be.
And how do you approach thatfluctuation?
Because I know, you know,there's discouragement along the
way.
There's, you know, sometimesthere's dead ends, there's
obstacles.
We get rerouted unexpectedly.
Those things are sometimesfrustrating.
(25:14):
Oh, 100%, yeah, talk a littlebit about that please.
Derick Gant (25:18):
Yeah, you know, setting the target has to be
dynamic, because if you'reserious about it and you
mentioned it earlier you knowsetting a goal that you believe
that you can within your grasp,and so when you set a goal or
target and you hit it, then youneed a new one.
And so you know, or there'slevels to it.
(25:38):
So you know your end game, endgame might be to influence 10
million people financially, youknow on a regular basis, but you
know I have to get to 100,000first.
So your, your big target mightbe 10 million, but you need to
hit 100 along the way, and thenyou know so.
So it's constantly, it'sconstantly moving, and I believe
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that that what I've learnedpersonally is that, instead of
looking for, instead of lookingjust at the target, it's like
what did I gain today that I canalways use as I move towards
hitting this target and how didthat affect me today, so that I
don't have to continuouslyrelearn the day.
(26:21):
You remember Groundhog Day, andevery day they started from
scratch and they tried toremember and warn people hey,
this is going to happen, so thatthey can get to some, some
breakout solution.
And so for me, it's a matter ofit's a matter of saying, you
know, I am enjoying my time, howdo I feel right now, and that
tells me if I'm on the righttrack or not.
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And and I'll tell you that thatit's.
It's frustrating because ifyou're a competitive person, on
top of the other things that wetalked about, you're also
competing against yourself.
You know I did.
You know what did I do thistime last year, is my goal
different than last year?
Right now I'm competing becauseI changed my business model.
You know I'm trying to land theairplane, so to speak.
(27:06):
You know we've taken off, we'veflown at a high altitude for a
really long time, and so melanding is going from get
investment advisors and being afitness coach to being a
financial coach, versus being ahands on advisor and helping
more people, more and morepeople, which is why I wrote the
(27:26):
book, so that we could get tomillions of people compared to,
you know, be talking one on one.
You can only talk to so manypeople a day.
So if you're out there and youhave a goal or you don't have a
goal, you know I believe thatyou start with what you bet.
You know it'd be great to dowhat you love to do, and most
people preach that.
I like to say do what you dobest, because you're going to be
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less frustrated.
And if you do what you do best,you're less frustrated, you do
it with ease and then you canstart to gravitate towards what
you absolutely love.
You know, and hopefully maybeyou'll become, you'll come to
love what you do best becauseyou do it best for a reason.
Greg Kuhn (28:07):
Yeah, yeah, I like that, Derick.
You know I'm thinking aboutwhat you said Especially.
You said you know, what did Ilearn today?
What did I learn today?
That can, that can really, youknow, add to my toolbox or add
to my practices, or give me someconfidence, something I can
hang my head on, that sort ofthing.
(28:29):
You know, I've I've beenplaying with this phrase in that
has come up in my journal inthe last two days, where I think
I'm an, I'm calling myself anSOB and and that means student
of better.
I'm a student of better, youknow, and and just taking that
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approach, and so when I look atmy life, and I look at the parts
of my life where I ammanifesting the most fulfilling
experiences, the most successfulexperiences by, by the metrics
that I'm choosing, and, andreally those are parts of my
life where I'm using the realityI manifest to inform me, to
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guide me on my journey of, youknow, learning, growing and
changing, rather than using myreality to define me, my worth,
my value, who and what I am, andyou know, is that I'm.
I'm looking at you, yourpractice, the, the coaching that
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you do, the community that youhave built and are building, and
you've used the term journey,you know, numerous times during
our conversation today aboutbeing a student.
Because I, because I know thatit's inspiring for me to listen
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to you your energy is isnaturally I feel, naturally
motivating and very genuine.
So if I'm starting in a place,though, where that's not where I
am, you know, maybe it's withmy financial life, maybe my
career.
You know, I've got a job.
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I just don't see and understandopportunity there.
I have money, you know, I getpaid, but I just don't see
abundance there.
You know, I don't seeopportunities for abundance
there.
Or maybe it's my love life ormy parenting or, like you said,
my health and fitness.
(30:42):
What's what's taking that firststep like and is taking that
first step?
Is it all that different fromtaking the step you're taking
right now, which might be stepnumber, you know, 682?
Derick Gant (30:59):
Yeah, the first step is always the hardest.
You know it is the hardest step.
You know, making a decision,making a decision that you're
going to Make an aggressivechange, making a decision that
the life that you're living in,whatever area you're looking for
improvement on, isn'tacceptable.
And that's why you know we putthe subtitle there the only
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difference between mediocrityand greatness is to figure out
what you need to do and then andthen focus a hundred percent on
the next step.
You know what is the next step?
And the first one, to me, isalways the most difficult,
because Change is difficult andpeople don't like change, they
like comfort, they likecomplacency.
Because you know, you know thebest, the best weapon I have is,
(31:47):
I mean, the best problem I haveis the one I know I have.
You know, you know, and peopleare afraid of things that will
never happen, and so it becomesvery difficult For most people.
You know they'll decide, butbut an 85% of New Year's
resolutions are torched and doneby the second week of the year,
(32:08):
I mean, within two weeks, thatresolution is dead and over, and
so, you know, it becomesimperative to just focus on the
next step, the next dollar,right, if we're talking about
about, about your nutrition,what's your next meal?
So I can't complain about thepizza a last week.
(32:30):
All I can do is not eat onetoday, you know so.
And if I do, what did I learnfrom eating the whole pizza last
week?
Well, I learned that I'm notgood.
I just wasted three days worthof working out, you know.
So it's just focusing on.
We can't change yesterday, sowe just focus on the next thing
that's in front of us, the nextprayer, the next meditation, the
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next meal, the next thing Iwant to manifest and Focus on
the next step of the target.
So you have your destination.
And I tell people all the timewe've talked about this before,
greg is that the first thingthat you do in modern times,
when you want to go somewherethat you don't know where you're
going, is you put in where youare, and then it says where do
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you want to go?
And then it says pick the bestroute that you.
You know.
Here's five routes.
Which one do you want to take?
And then you look at the routesand you go.
Well, this is on the expressway, and I'm not that big big of a
fan of the expressway.
This one's over here, butthere's a roadblock, this one
over here, but we have to gothrough the tunnel.
So which one?
We got to take?
One because we know where we'restarting from and we know where
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we're going.
Which one do we want to do?
And then figuring out thatalong the way, everything's okay
because it's getting you toyour target and that is.
Greg Kuhn (33:48):
That's a beautiful metaphor.
It you know what you're makingme think of something, derek.
I recently read Some dataanalysis that Strava did and for
people who are listening, whoare not familiar, strava is A
workout tracking app a lot ofrunners use I.
I use run keeper Look me up onrun keeper it's Greg Kuhn, easy
(34:13):
to find and and add me will runtogether.
But Strava Analyzed over 800million data points and they
they calculated that for theaverage person, day 19 of a new
habit is quitter stay.
Day 19 is quitter stay and youknow what it's a.
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I was glad to to learn thatmyth.
I was an interesting thing tolearn.
I'm currently in the middle ofdoing 75 hard, which is, I was
told, a trendy Way of Infusingsome very beneficial practices
into one's life.
Right, I, yeah, I work outevery day for 90 minutes.
(34:58):
I read at least 10 pages ofnonfiction, I drink a gallon of
water and Seems like I'mforgetting sugar.
Maybe I'm not doing the whole75 hard.
I think it's no shit.
I think no sugar is one of them,isn't it?
No sugar?
Oh yeah, the diet, that's right, I get.
Thank you, I, I, I.
I Select the diet.
(35:20):
You know that I'm gonna follow,and then I do it without
cheating that good, thank youfor the reminder.
Derick Gant (35:26):
And you gotta do one indoor workout, one outdoor
workout, if I my memory servesme, correct.
Greg Kuhn (35:32):
It's actually correct , Derick.
Please quit adding requirementsto this.
You're making it more difficultfor me as we speak.
I shouldn't have brought it up,that's right, well, we did it?
Derick Gant (35:42):
We did 75 soft.
I called it.
I swear to God, I called it 75soft.
In our in the 24k lifecommunity we did a 75 day
challenge but we called it 75soft because I wasn't doing two
workouts.
I'm too old to do two workoutsa day, man.
Greg Kuhn (35:57):
Okay, so I'm doing it and and yeah, I, you're right,
45 and 45 it's a split, thereason I bring it up.
Talk to us about the importance.
You know our.
(36:18):
Correct me if I'm wrong, and Idon't think you will.
So much of this journey, I meanI can't say 100% of it is an
Inner journey, but the vast 99%of it is an inner journey right.
Everything happens in here.
(36:40):
First, that is a hundredpercent our, our insides
manifest our external world.
So, but you know that feedback,that guidance from external
sources, it may not be a hugepercentage of what's manifesting
our external world Mm-hmm, ifit were, that would be a little
(37:03):
bit like, you know, asking thecanvas to paint itself.
But that 1% that comes fromoutside of us, you know, wow, it
has the potential to make sucha powerful impact.
Now you coach, you get coached,same as me, right?
(37:28):
You also run a community ofpeople, so you're deep into the
world of that 1%.
You know that that necessary,beneficial, often life-changing
outside help.
Right, talk to us about therole that plays in Developing
(37:51):
this 24k life.
Derick Gant (37:54):
Yeah, you know it's interesting way.
I've never heard it put thatway and I don't disagree.
I do agree that 1% is a lotright, so To to have.
Here's my take as an American,and I would say I don't like to
say I'm typical at anything, butlet's just say, as a typical
(38:14):
American, I Want the fastest wayto where I'm trying to go, even
though, even though I'm a join,you know the process, because I
want to get there, because Iknow there's somewhere else to
go after that, and so that 1%,greg is, is what we offer and I
say we because your coach alsois what we offer, based on our
experience and circumstance as a, as an idea of how to Help
(38:42):
someone else do their inner work.
Right, because it is a hundredpercent inside job.
But the 1% that says look, thisis the inner work you need to
be focused on right now, basedon where you are, where you're
going and what's happening inyour universe, and that 1% is is
really important and that's whyI don't think that that these
(39:04):
modern kids and I'm gonna saykids, and I don't want to try to
cause a fight with any othergeneration, but they don't.
You know you don't value booksas much.
The average American doesn'tread one book a year.
But but that what you're reallysaying is that there's a book
out there that will change yourlife.
It will change the way you seesomething.
It will change the way you lookat something.
It'll change the way youunderstand something.
(39:25):
You know, I was watching adocumentary this weekend and
they were really short documentdocumentaries on all the auto
car makers.
You know, chevrolet was aFrench guy, obviously.
Ford, olds mobile these wereauto car makers, olds mobile
these were all individuals.
All these car names wereindividuals.
(39:45):
They that started makingbicycles almost all of them
started making bicycles and thengraduated on to to automobiles,
and they all failed like ahundred times.
They all failed like a hundred.
It was incredible when you golook at and you think that you
know Four guys.
You know, did he?
Did he even live to see themagnificence of what he created?
(40:06):
And so my point in saying allthis is Is that you're a hundred
percent right.
You know we could learnsomething.
You know Ford learned somethingfrom the Dodge brothers.
He hired the Dodge brothers andthey came in and taught him
some things that helped him makebetter forts, and so we all
need that spark, or that guidinglight to say, hey, you know
(40:29):
what?
I know it's an inside job, butlet's shine a little more light
on this Part of the inside jobso that you can get where you're
trying to go without falling inthe too many pit holes and
having to climb out of them toget back to even.
And that's the work that we doas coaches, that's the things we
do in the community.
Hey, look over here.
If you're really strugglingfinancially, look.
(40:50):
Look here, I'm telling youwhere to look.
Now you have to take that andapply it to your own personal
spending habits, your own needs,the bills that you've put into
place and your credit and allthose type of things.
But this is where you should belooking at right now.
And that's the beauty of havinga coach, having an advisor and
and having somebody that's beenthere.
They've helped thousands ofother people's get there, so
(41:12):
that means that they'llthousands of ways to help you
possibly get yours too.
Greg Kuhn (41:17):
To surround ourselves , just to continue illustrating
what you're saying.
If, as best as we can, surroundourselves with other people who
are like-minded, who aresimilarly goal-oriented, who are
growth-minded, those sorts ofthings, I mean, is that
(41:41):
typically it's close?
Derick Gant (41:43):
it's close.
I would say that the statisticsprove that you don't want to be
the smartest man in the room.
You don't want to be thesmartest woman in the room.
You don't want to be the onethat knows everything.
You want to surround yourselfwith like-minded people but that
know more than you do, becausejust by their sheer actions,
(42:06):
activities and insights, theirverbits, their beliefs, it's
going to elevate you.
And if you're like-minded, thenyou're on the right track.
If you drink whiskey, youshouldn't be in a wine room.
Greg Kuhn (42:17):
Right.
Yeah, I spent some time as anexecutive director of a board of
directors and I often toldthose folks that when we were
problem-solving, that if theidea I brought to the room winds
up being the idea that we use,I'm going to be mad at them,
(42:38):
because my goal always I agreewith you wholeheartedly.
I don't want to be the smartestperson in the room.
That is not to me anadvantageous point.
I want to be a student.
Right, you want to be a student.
Derick Gant (42:52):
Absolutely.
Greg Kuhn (42:54):
I do.
You know, Derick, we'restarting to butt up against time
, not reaching a hard stop yetby any means.
But I definitely want to comeback to one thing you mentioned
and you've talked about thejourney and this, to me, this is
a really key question.
(43:15):
I really want to hear you knowyou pop the hood and let us in
on some of your inner mechanisms, which you've been doing so
openly.
Thank you for that.
So let's continue that.
The journey.
You know, learning for the sakeof learning, the intrinsic value
(43:38):
, if you will, where the journeyis the gift, the growth is the
gift, right, and at the sametime, like, for example, with
money, for me the journey is thegift and I also want the money.
I don't just want the journey,I want the money.
(43:59):
And I know that there have beentimes in my life and probably
somebody listening is in thesame position where what it was
that I wanted, I needed it.
You know, I've had a sit, atime in my life where I
desperately needed money toavoid some calamitous
(44:19):
circumstances.
I was going to be goingbankrupt and have 15
foreclosures and, you know, justdestroy my life.
I needed the money.
Now, that need didn'tnecessarily at all change.
The truth of the journey beingthe true treasure, right, but
(44:42):
how do you personally stayfocused on the journey and how
do you help others stay focusedon the journey, especially when
that desire is a need, and, and,and it's fiery hot and it's
hard to stop thinking about whatit is that I don't have yet?
Derick Gant (45:04):
Yeah, you know the funny part about that, man and
this is my experience withclients specifically from a
financial perspective and from afitness perspective, so the
areas that I know a whole lotabout.
Funny thing about that is thatyou don't have to worry or
enforce people to focus on thejourney.
When they're in need anddesperation, they are focused.
It's when they get slightly outof it that they get comfortable
(45:28):
, lose focus and they eitherslide back in the total hell
Right, or they improve a littlebit and then they get easy, they
get comfortable and they stopthe habits and the focus that
they use to get there.
So you know, when you havesomething, I personally believe
that people get what they need.
I don't think the people getwhat they want as often as they
(45:49):
get what they need, and so myconcept is the how do we turn
your wants to needs?
So I started changing my ownverbiage.
You know I need a communitywith 10,000 members.
I don't want one, I need one.
And so you start to have thatconversation with yourself.
But I don't, I don't disagreewith with your, with your, with
(46:12):
your point and from myperspective.
I give you an example havesomebody, that's that you know
they're behind on their mortgageor their water is going to get
cut off and they're just,they're just bad shape and they
come to us and we, they it lookslike we work magic, but we do
what we do.
We get them in a position wherethey know they get to keep
(46:34):
their house, the water is stillflowing, they're still going to
work and they might get let'ssay, this happens more often
than not they get a tax refundof $3,000, $4,000.
They get them close to beingokay.
Then they get $3,400,000, theygo up.
Don't need your advice, I'mgreat, right.
And this happens in in March,april, by June they are dying on
(46:58):
the vine again because theynever changed the principles,
they never changed the valuestructure, they never changed
their habit structure or theydidn't adopt it to a belief.
They did it for a temporaryband aid.
You know, it's like constantlyputting a bandaid on something
to meet stitches.
Here You're in trouble.
So that's what I find.
(47:19):
And so you know, for those thatare listening, you know, pick
one thing if you're, if you havefive things that we talked
about that are five core areasand you're lacking in two of
them.
You know, I don't guess how oldyou are my age, you got to
tackle both of them at the sametime.
If you're younger, tackle oneof them and just focus on that,
stay present on that, get thatout of your way and then you can
(47:42):
move on to the next one and doyour best to maintain.
Greg Kuhn (47:46):
Oh, that's such fantastic advice.
You know you mentioned, Derick,people get what they need, yeah
, and I got to say somebodyprobably many somebody's
watching this need to hear whatwe are sharing today and, thanks
(48:08):
to your generosity and opennessand our willingness to get
together, they are getting tohear it.
That's a wonderful thing.
Let's really take the value forthis person to a whole nother
level.
All right, derek, you, you arebeing asked to.
(48:31):
You know, have a consultationwith somebody who has a strong
desire.
They, they really want that 24klife.
They really want, you know,they really want the financial
freedom.
They want the personal freedom,spiritual freedom, the health,
the fitness, whatnot.
(48:52):
And so they're coming to youand saying, Derick Gant, tell me
, tell me what I should do,what's your top advice?
Where do I start?
What's my first step?
How do I structure things?
Give us, give us the whole kitand caboodle, lay it out for us.
Derick Gant (49:16):
Well, I was.
The first thing I'll say isthat that is by far my ultimate
favorite person, right?
I mean somebody who says thaton a scale of I asked this
question when I interviewedpeople because I can't work with
everybody, because I can't takeit personally, you know, as a
very driven alpha type guy, Ican't take people that are
wishy-washy.
So so the person that says, ona scale of one to 10, I am an 11
(49:40):
on my desire to live a 24k lifeand change the trajectory of
where I am, that's so number oneadmitting where you are,
knowing where you are and beingat that level where you really
don't have a choice.
This is what I'm going to do.
And then it's just a matter ofyou know.
It's a combination of how muchtime do they have?
You know?
(50:00):
Do you want, like the turboboosted?
You know how to get this going?
We're going to do all five atonce, and are you capable of
doing that?
Or do you want to just tacklethese two areas?
So it depends on the person.
But, man, I'll unload and dump.
And here's the cool part formyself, if I can say about
(50:21):
myself, is that there's adifference between an advisor
and a coach.
A coach is going to help youfigure out what's next for you.
An advisor is going to say,greg, pick up the phone and call
20 people that you interviewedlast year that were your top
interviews and tell them youwant to follow up and that's
going to get you 20 interviewslike that.
(50:41):
So an advisor is going to tellyou what to do based on all the
information that you give us.
A coach is going to help youfigure out.
Now I do some coaching, butmost of what I do is advising,
and so what you're just askingme is spot on.
It's like, if I get a guy,let's take it.
Let's take a Derek Gann.
You got a 55 year old male whowants to be in the best shape of
(51:06):
55 year old can be in.
You want.
You want more stable finances.
You have a relationship, but itcould be could be a little
better.
You have some semblance ofspirituality.
I'm going to start you off onall of it.
So we're going to do fiveminutes of quiet time, like as
in prayer, meditation.
That's going to be included inyour day.
(51:27):
So you're going to.
You know, we're going to pick afitness goal based on what your
level is, if it doesn't work outat all, then we're going to go.
We're going to do our best toget you know, 15 minute walk in.
If you, with your finances, goto your checkbook and write down
, categorize everything that youspent the last 30 days.
So go to your online bankingstatement, print it off and
(51:50):
figure out how much was gas, howmuch was food, how much was
dining out, how much wasgroceries, how much was clothes,
how much was gambling.
So we figured it all out.
Let's see where your money is.
And then and so we're going todo all of these things Do you
have date night with your spouseor your partner?
So, if you are 24k aggressive,that's where we're starting with
you and I know it's too muchand it's too much for 99% of
(52:13):
people, but we'll start peoplewhere they are.
So our coaching, our advice,our programs are tailor made
based on you know what peoplehave in mind.
You, you reached out and we, wechopped it up when we first met
and we ended up spending threehours on the phone together,
right, and that was totallyunscripted and totally
(52:35):
beneficial for both of us thatit was, that it was, and this
has been totally beneficial forme.
Greg Kuhn (52:45):
I know that it's been totally beneficial for others.
By the way, I'm 56.
Derick, I think you need somegray hair man, no it's there.
Derick Gant (52:57):
It was my dark skin cover, some of it up, but yeah,
I got a few strands up top.
I got a few strands up top.
Greg Kuhn (53:03):
Well, when you cross over to the gray side, I predict
you will enjoy, you know, assomebody who is very intentional
about his health and fitness.
Here's what I predict you willfind that as you get the gray
(53:26):
hair, it'll add another elementof outside appreciation because
people will understand how muchyou're bucking the odds, so to
speak.
Gotcha, you know with the grayhair, and so you have a lot to
look forward to there.
That's always good to have thaton the horizon, always ready.
Derick, I have to say wedefinitely made good on our
(53:51):
intention today to createsomething of value, you know, to
bring some very valuablecontent forth through our
discussion.
Can you let folks know whatdoes Derick Gant have going on?
What's on the forefront of youractivities today?
(54:14):
And, of course, in addition tothat, what's the best way for
someone to engage with DerickGant right now?
Derick Gant (54:23):
That's awesome, yep .
So we decided that this year wewanna focus on helping people
get out of debt.
You know we do the other thingsand inside of our community
just so people understand, wehave brilliant minds like Greg
come in to do workshops andprograms so that they can get
access to a variety of expertsinside one kind of hub, if you
(54:47):
will, that's the 24K Life Code.
So if they wanted to downloadthe 24K Life Code on their
Android, their Play Store or theApple Store, they can go to
that and download the 24K LifeCode.
It's a great place to start.
You can message us, you cantext us.
We have a free version, we havea paid version, so it just
(55:08):
depends on just getting yourselfstarted.
What we have on the horizon iswe're running these workshops,
and they are workshops wherepeople can pull out their pen
and pad and take step-by-stepnotes to figure out where they
are with their debt and what'sgood debt, what's bad debt, how
to get rid of the bad debt, howto increase their cash flow so
that they can then spend moretime doing the things that are
(55:30):
important to their life'spurpose.
Greg Kuhn (55:33):
Oh, wow, I love that and just to say I know that in
watching and listening to ourconversation folks are getting a
good, healthy dose of thegenuine energy, the sincerity
that's on display here, and Ipersonally can attest to
(55:55):
Derick's heart and Derick'sfocus.
It's a real pleasure, Derick,to get to introduce you to new
people.
Derick Gant (56:04):
I enjoyed my time with you, man.
Greg Kuhn (56:06):
Yes, thank you so much for taking the time.
And, as we wrap up here and Iremind folks to go ahead and
make sure that, if you haven't,at the very least join my
Facebook manifesting group.
It's called Manifest the BigStuff with Greg Kuhn Creating
Our Realities Together, that's agreat place to go and get
(56:27):
started.
Make sure you do that today, ifyou haven't.
Derick, thank you so much forbeing here with us.
Thank you, and to everybody whohas made themselves a part of
this conversation by listeningand watching.
Thank you so much for sharingyour time with us.
(56:47):
We have felt it while we'vebeen talking, even though you
currently haven't watched it yet.
You're watching it right nowand we can feel that all right.
Yes, sir, sir so thank you forsharing your time with us.
There's nothing else morevaluable that you could share.
We really appreciate it.
I never take it for granted.
(57:08):
I know I speak for Derick andsaying the same, so until we get
a chance to get together againhopefully very soon keep
believing and keep manifesting.
Thanks.
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