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Vicky Albious (00:05):
I look over after
, you know, pastor closes
service and I'm in, curiousstill, just tears are just
flowing down her face.
And that's what you, justthat's what this is about, you
know, just living this life andliving God with your kids daily.
You know, that's one thing.
You know, we don't every daysay, make sure you're doing your
(00:28):
devotional, make sure you'redoing this, make sure you're
doing it.
No, it is literally living alife of Jesus in front of them.
Scottie Albious (00:35):
The kids need
to see.
You're hungry for the Lord,you're hungry in worship, you're
hungry in praise, you're hungryin the word, because when they
see you're hungry, guess what?
That provokes their hunger.
Daniel Moore (00:45):
This week on
Marriage Life More.
We welcome back one more timeScottie and Vicky Albious, as
they're going to be sitting inhere in the studio with us this
week and be talking aboutblended marriages.
We'll be back with that rightafter this.
Thank you, welcome to MarriageLife and More.
(01:36):
This is a podcast aboutmarriage and we throw in a few
Bible and book studies hereevery once in a while.
We interview people that haveinspiring stories.
I'm Daniel Moore, your host.
I have my beautiful wife,Michelle, sitting over here.
The co-host of this podcast.
And of course once again thisweek we have Scottie and Vicky
Albious.
Hello, glad to have them, soyou got a treat coming up for
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talking about here as we talkabout marriage.
Well, as I said here in theintro, we have Scotty and Vicki
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with us one more time this week,and this week we're going to be
talking about blended marriages.
So first of all, I just want tothank you guys for coming back
once again.
(03:00):
Oh, it's been awesome, thankyou.
You guys have been here the lasttwo weeks, some phenomenal
episodes that you guys haveshared with us, as you've shared
your heart, and we just are sothankful for the ministries.
I know we haven't said this yet, but you guys are very involved
in your church and inleadership positions and things
that you do there, and God usesyou guys a lot.
(03:21):
And we're so thankful for theinfluence that you all have in
the church and the people aroundyou, and the influence that
you've had on Michelle andmyself even we consider you guys
very close friends and we'vebounced a lot of stuff off of
each other over the last years.
Oh, yeah.
It's been a really fun ride.
We're just thankful that God'sbrought you guys in our path.
(03:41):
So I do thank you for sayingyes to being on the podcast here
the last couple of weeks and,of course, this week is week
three, and this week we're goingto talk about blended marriages
, and this is something that youknow.
A lot of churches really lookat this as a taboo subject.
They don't like to talk aboutit.
For one thing, you know, a lotof churches are totally dead set
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against divorce, which Itotally understand that.
We all know that biblically,there's only certain reasons
really that divorce is anallowable thing according to
being biblical with it.
So we totally understand that.
But we also know that there's avery high percentage of
marriages today that end up indivorce.
And unfortunately, right now thestatistics are definitely
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against us.
Around 60-plus percent of themarriages these days will end up
in divorce and some of thestatistics I've been hearing
recently within the church it'svery similar.
It's a very high rate ofmarriages that are ending even
in church families, and it'sjust hard to believe.
And, of course, when you getinto the blended family scenario
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, your second, third marriagesand so on, those statistics keep
rising.
And they get higher and higher.
I know right now that for asecond marriage it's around 70%
fail rate for people that getremarried again.
And what's crazy is, you know,michelle and I for sure have
seen that I mean our marriagehas been on the rocks and you
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know it's so important, afteryou come out of that first
marriage, to learn some lessons.
You know what went wrong, whattook place that needs fixed this
time around, you know, becausemarriage is a God-instituted
thing.
God created marriage.
He created it in Genesis.
One of the very first thingsthat he came up with was
marriage, and he put those rulesdown for what that marriage was
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supposed to be.
And it's up to us at this point, as we consummate these
marriages and come together ashusband and wife.
It's our responsibility, then,to live biblically, according to
the plan that God has setbefore us, and a lot of times
that's where we fail.
But that being said, there's alot of blended families out
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there that need spoken into.
Yes.
And there's a lot of struggles,a lot of fighting that's going
on, a lot of things that youknow these couples don't
understand about what's takingplace.
And you guys have, you know,weathered lots of battles on
your own.
And, of course, you guys, whenyou first introduced yourself
here, you told us, you know, weknow, Scottie has a daughter
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from a previous marriage andthen you have a couple of boys
together at this point.
So you're completely blended,and so as we get started on this
episode this week.
I think where I want to startout with this right at the
moment is when you guys did cometogether.
At that time you only had KhiraScottie's daughter.
She was in the picture from thebeginning.
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So when you first came togetherand you started this blended
marriage journey, how did youguys navigate being parents to
Khira Vicky, you accepting heras your daughter?
because in all reality.
You know all of us parents thatare blended.
It's not his kids or her kids,it's still our kids.
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So how did you guys navigatesome of that?
You know, scotty, allowingVicki to come in to be the mom,
and Vicki, you actually takingthat position.
Vicky Albious (07:09):
You know I think
I was.
I tried to be careful, justespecially in our dating time,
to you know, if I saw thingsthat you know, maybe little
this's or that's, I made sure Iwasn't the one really to ever
correct Kira, you know,especially during those dating
seasons, and just you know I'dsay, hey, babe, you know, I just
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you know this or that, you know, and I tried to be very
respectful in that aspect oflike this isn't quite mine to
parent yet you know this isn't,you know, the situation for me
to parent yet.
And then it's like as wemarried, you know, I slowly
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worked into that role because,you know, I had to gain Kira's
love and respect.
You know, at first, before Ifelt that I had the authority or
the, you know, I didn't want tocome into her life like don't
do that and you can't.
You know this and that.
And of course Kira's, she'sjust such an amazing kid that I
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would almost call her theperfect daughter, like she just
means the world to me and alwayshas.
But I just was careful, youknow, to try to allow him to do
what he needed to do and thenease into that.
But kind of a funny thing tostart it out Before we were in
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dating and we'd go to church andplay volleyball and stuff.
I always say Kira picked mebecause she would.
There was this one night aftervolleyball where all those young
adults came out, you know,talking and stuff, and I
remember Kira sitting on thesidewalk and she's riding on the
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sidewalk with a rock and shejust looks up at me and and I
can't say that we'd really hadconversation before that.
You know, um, I could remembera couple other times she'd ran
up to me at church and, hi,vicki, you know um, but she
looks up at me and she says,vicki, who's your husband?
And I said, well, I don't havea husband.
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And she was like, oh, and thatwas just it, because she was, I
think, think six at the time,maybe five, yeah.
And I remember Scotty lookingat me and he was like what did
she just say to you?
It embarrassed him so badbecause we weren't dating Like
we were, you know, just friendsand kind of talking here and
there.
Scottie Albious (09:38):
I thought I was
really in shock that she said
that because, like, I nevermentioned Vicki around her at
all.
So, to me it was just like what, what did you just say?
You know part two.
I was embarrassed as well, youknow.
Vicky Albious (09:48):
I remember he
told me, yeah, I got on to her
about that and I was like why,like she, you know, she didn't
know she was so little, you know, he's like, well, I just you
know, but she did that and then,like I said, just a moment
she'd run up and hi, vicki, youknow, but her and I started, I
(10:10):
would say, just with a very goodrelationship you know, and I've
just always loved and respectedher and she's just been my girl
.
You know from the get-go.
Scottie Albious (10:23):
Yeah, while we
were dating, it ended up being
me driving and them two hangingout, you know, and I thought it
was really cool and how much sheloved Vicki and Dad.
Are we going to go see Vickitoday?
Are we going to?
And I was like sure you know,and I think for me to answer
your question, that's whathelped build that trust.
You know, kira loved her.
And then two, I remember Vickialways coming to me and said,
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hey, I think you know, here'swhat I'm seeing.
And Vicki would always come tome with a loving attitude and
concern for Kira, just a concernthat was very authentic.
And she wouldn't come to me andsay you need to do this to your
kid.
You need to say you know, andher, knowing my personality,
she'd just be like I think Kiraneeds this, or I think Kira
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needs to hear this from you.
I think Kira needs a hug fromyou Because you know, like I
said, men we like to wrestle andthrow things and you know,
throw people and with her beingso young, she was my buddy and I
would just throw her all overthe place and we'd wrestle.
Vicky Albious (11:14):
And she loved it.
Scottie Albious (11:18):
And she loved
it.
But there were times whereVicki's like I.
I never thought of that.
So you know, as she's gettingolder, I've learned, okay, she
needs a hug.
We've got two younger boys.
They need hugs too, but theywant to be thrown around.
You know, they want to wrestle,they want to fight.
They're dad.
When your legs get better, arewe going to wrestle or am I
going to tackle you?
I'm like I'll tackle you first.
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You know we're going to be whowe are, but they have that.
They want that nurturing youknow side of you too as well.
Vicky Albious (11:52):
I remember this
one time where she had come up
to Scotty and she was probably,I'd say like eight around this
time probably, and she had.
She always was doodling in abook or writing something,
spelling, just learning all thetime and she had drawn something
and she brought it and she'slike Dad, look what I did, and
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just him being his rough self,as they've always played he
knocked the book out of her handand I saw her face for just a
second and it was just kind oflike you could tell it kind of
hurt, you know.
But then she just like playedit off, you know, cause that's,
you know, that's just who, herand dad's relationship, that's
how it was.
And later I went to him and Isaid I don't know that you saw
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it, but like I think thatactually kind of hurt her, like
she played it off very quicklyand but I was like you've got to
start, she's getting to an agelike she needs your daddy
tenderness.
She needs that, like I'm proudof you.
Wow, that looks awesome, Wow,that's cool, you know, instead
of like boom, you know, let'splay, let's be crazy, and just
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you know, allow some tendernessthere.
Daniel Moore (12:59):
Yeah.
So one thing that you guysmentioned there and it's
something that I've beenlearning, even recently in my
journey with the blended familything you said that you didn't
discipline.
Yeah, and you know I've heard alot of different counselors and
you know different people thatwork in blended marriage
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ministry.
People that work in blendedmarriage ministry and that is
something that they do recommendhighly is that if you come into
a family with your own kids oneach side of the equation, that
for quite some time there at thevery beginning, that the parent
coming into the relationshipreally shouldn't be disciplining
the other children for a timeframe there.
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They need to let that parent.
You know that's something whereMichelle and I, you know, we
had a lot of issue on that side.
In some ways I felt like I waskind of forced into that a
little bit, you know, soonerthan I wanted to be.
But at the same time.
You know, back then I didn'trealize that that was an issue,
you know, that's something thatI was like.
(14:02):
You know, like we say, there'sno handbook on how to be a
blended family.
You know how to bring ittogether.
Okay, chapter five is.
You know you don't get that.
You know that pleasure, and soit's a learning process from the
very beginning.
And you know one thing that Ican say just from our blended
family experience you know Igrew a very harsh environment
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with discipline and when I was achild I was in a military
family to an extent plus alegalistic family, biblically
and from both sides of thatequation the discipline can be
pretty harsh in a lot of casesand sometimes I probably
deserved it.
You know how that goes.
But unfortunately, you know Ibrought that father figure style
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into our relationship and in alot of ways I see where it
actually damaged therelationship that I had with the
boys you know Michelle's boys.
Later on in our marriage andlater on in life, you know I've
had to go back and apologize.
Michelle Moore (15:02):
Well, Scotty,
you listen.
You took that wisdom from Vicki.
Scottie Albious (15:08):
Sure.
Michelle Moore (15:08):
But I also think
you know, because she went to
her prayer closet.
Oh, yeah, and because she wasfilled with wisdom.
When Dan and I, when I woulddiscuss it with Dan, it wasn't I
didn't do what you did, Ididn't go to a prayer closet.
I mean it wasn't I didn't dowhat you did, I didn't go to a
prayer closet.
I mean it was like I can'tbelieve you would treat him that
way.
Daniel Moore (15:26):
I mean we always
did it behind closed doors and I
felt like she was accusing me.
So there was no communication.
Michelle Moore (15:34):
So that was the
first several years of our
marriage and that's the reasonyou know we walked through what
we did.
So I mean listening to you guystalk about it and you know I
just think about you know I hopewhoever's listening to this
takes what you guys are sayingand applies it, because he is
right.
I mean it did do damage to herchildren and you know, even
though he can apologize, itdoesn't change what happened
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back then, you know, and they'readults now.
But I mean I look at you, knowhow you are with Kira still to
this day and I think God blessedyou because of that wisdom with
your relationship with her.
That's good.
He just grew it and the two ofyou just are so complement of
each other.
Scottie Albious (16:15):
Yeah.
You know, and she does.
Michelle Moore (16:17):
She loves you.
Scottie Albious (16:18):
Yeah, she
serves the church and she's on
the worship team too, and themto complement each other in
worship as well, in praise andworship.
It's really cool to see.
Michelle Moore (16:26):
And their
relationship.
You know you may be the othermom, but your relationship that
you have with her is because ofhow you started it all off.
Vicky Albious (16:34):
Yeah, and I truly
believe that I'm going to cry
because I just well, but Kira isjust, she's always been such an
amazing girl, you know, and Iknow there's situations that,
you know, people come into andthe kids have been through a lot
(16:56):
, to the point that they'reprobably a little harder to deal
with.
You know, whereas I was tellingKira this the other day, I said,
you know, I'm just thankful forwho you are, you know, and just
, she has such a tender heartand she always has.
Like our discipline of Kira wasjust saying man, you know, I'm
(17:19):
kind of I'm disappointed withthat.
You know, like she was neverone you had to spank.
She was.
You know, I'm kind of I'mdisappointed with that.
You know, like she was neverone you had to spank.
She was, you know, not for usanyway or honestly, even ground
because she just if you justsaid this wasn't okay, you know,
and there wasn't even very manytimes of that.
(17:40):
You know, she just has alwaysbeen an incredible girl, girl,
and I'm thankful for thatbecause I think things would
have been harder had it.
You know, I come in and it wasa kid.
That was kind of just crazy,you know, and so I think I knew
there would already be enoughdynamics and tough stuff through
it that you know I'm sothankful for Kira, oh yeah.
Daniel Moore (18:03):
Well, one thing
that I've learned is you know a
lot of times, whenever we get tothis point where divorce is,
inevitable and it's going tohappen we, you know, as parents,
we take that step and we havekids involved and we don't
realize that.
You know what emotions thatwe're going through as the
parents.
The kids are going through thattwo or three times more, right,
(18:25):
right.
And so whenever we come out ofthat relationship, the kids
especially if they've not reallyseen what's been seeing, what's
going on, because Michelle andI we talked about this a little
bit.
You know a lot of the arguingand the fighting that we had
went on behind closed doors.
Yeah, we didn't really let ourkids know a lot of this friction
was going on.
We hid it from them and sowhenever the time came that
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Michelle made the decision thatshe was going to move out, you
know that was quite a surprise,I'm sure, for our kids, right
right, and you know they'reyoung and they don't know how to
navigate all of that and we getdivorced and get separated and
then our thing is like okay,we're looking to find the next
person now.
You know our kids are stillmourning.
They're still going through thisperiod where they still don't
know what just happened.
You know, and probably theparents not even explained it to
(19:10):
them.
All they know now is, all of asudden I'm getting tossed
between two different houses.
I've got this parent bickeringwith this parent and they can't
decide on nothing.
I'm getting stuck in the middle.
Now my parent wants me to gotell this one something for them
, and all this stuff startsgoing on.
Michelle Moore (19:23):
It's really hard
and it's very difficult, and I
think that's you know, yourwisdom of just not even just
loving Kira.
Scottie Albious (19:30):
Yeah.
Michelle Moore (19:31):
And you know
showing no—and I've watched you
you don't show any difference inloving her versus the boys.
Yeah right.
I mean, and I know what it'slike to have two boys and not
have a girl, and I mean I alwayswanted a girl and I got
Brooklyn.
But I wish I would have beenlike what you were, because I
think my relationship, eventhough Brooke and I are close, I
(19:54):
think it would have beentotally different had I had my
relationship with Christ andactually did what you've been
doing with her, even to this day, while she's in high school.
I mean, I look and sometimes Ikind of manipulate a little bit
on.
Brooklyn's feelings because Iwanted her to love me so much.
(20:14):
You know, and you know thatrelationship.
You want that, you know so.
Scottie Albious (20:18):
Right, wow.
Daniel Moore (20:20):
Did you ever fear
not being accepted by Kira.
How did you navigate throughthat when you first came into
the relationship?
Vicky Albious (20:28):
You know, I don't
know that I ever feared, just
because she took to me soquickly, you know, and we just
we were together such shortperiods of time in that
beginning part because like heonly had her every other weekend
at that point and hardly at alleven on holidays.
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Like it was just very limitedtime and so that time was so
precious to us and when she waswith us, I mean it was us just
spending time, whether that wassitting on the floor watching
movies together or going to apark.
You know, just like she wasliterally our world and so it
(21:12):
just yeah, it just was natural.
I don't know, and I too, I justthink it was a God thing.
You know, like it's crazy, Ijust think it was a God thing.
You know, like I it's crazy,but you know, I've been in her
life around 12 years now andit's weird.
It may sound stupid, but likethere are times like I almost
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forget, like she did not comefrom my, my tummy Like no.
Michelle Moore (21:36):
I understand
exactly what you're saying.
Vicky Albious (21:38):
She means to me,
like there is.
There's never been stepmom,stepbrother, stepsister, like,
no, like you are my child, thatGod put us, our lives together
and for me to be what I need tobe to you, yeah.
Scottie Albious (21:53):
I think, from
our experience, one thing if
you're, if you're in thisblended state of kids going back
and forth, man treasure time.
Kids, they want that time andthey just want to, you know,
spend that time with you.
So do it, whether it's playingtennis or going to museums or
man just going to a park, parksare free.
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Don't get in that rut of well,your mom did this, well, I'm
going to buy you this.
My joke was always like ohreally, she did that, I'm going
to buy you a pony.
Come on over, you know, don't,don't, you know, you don't have
to do that.
Kids value just regular time,just spending time with one
another.
And then another thing too is Iremember thinking man, we're in
church so much, why am Ispending this time with my
daughter at church?
(22:34):
No, kids need church.
Michelle Moore (22:36):
Yes, yes, they
need that, they need God.
Scottie Albious (22:40):
Don't use that
as an excuse Say, well, it's my
weekend, I'm not going to go tochurch because I got to spend
time with them.
No, they need to know the Lord.
Daniel Moore (22:46):
Yes.
Scottie Albious (22:46):
Absolutely
Super important, yeah, and they
need to know that you honor andyou respect the Lord, that
you're submitted to the Lordyourself, and that really helps.
And then, when they get older,they will see the difference
between households.
Vicky Albious (22:59):
That's like today
.
We just had an awesome servicein the presence of the Lord and
towards the end of service,pastor David asked us, the team,
to come back up and I playpiano and lead and Kira she's on
bass and she actually leadsworship for the youth on
Wednesday nights and, man, thatjust touches your heart as a
(23:23):
parent.
You know, and that's somethingI never pushed her into.
You know, it literally was whenshe was like five, six, you
know, and she first startedcoming and hanging and stuff.
She was like Vicki, will youteach me the?
piano you know, and so I justbegan to teach her the basics
and then she already loved tosing, so she'd sit there and
(23:43):
belt her little lungs out.
But it was so neat todaybecause he had us come back up
at the end and you know we'resinging the song called Set Free
and just the chorus of it I'vebeen set free.
I have been set free.
Shame has no hold.
You know, no power over me, andyou just feel such a strong
(24:05):
presence of the Lord.
And then, you know, serviceends, you know, and people were
up front, just hands lifted, orshould be, like it was just, it
was just.
God was there.
And I look over after, you know,pastor closes service and I'm
in, curious still, just tearsare just flowing down her face.
And that's what you just,that's what this is about.
(24:28):
You know, just living this lifeand living God with your kids
daily.
You know that's one thing, youknow, we don't every day say,
make sure you're doing yourdevotional, Make sure you're
doing this, Make sure you'redoing it.
No, it is literally living alife of Jesus in front of them
every day.
Scottie Albious (24:47):
The kids need
to see you're hungry for the
Lord, you're hungry in worship,you're hungry in praise, you're
hungry in the Word.
Because when they see you'rehungry, guess what?
That provokes their hunger andthey find a different way of
satisfying that hunger.
And, like she was saying, itwas one of those services today
that, you know, you just getcome up to be filled, you know,
and just spend time with theLord.
And it was very powerful.
And when I looked up and I sawher just tearing up, I was like
(25:09):
that's awesome, that's what it'sabout as a parent, that's it.
You want your kids to want moreof the Lord.
Daniel Moore (25:15):
Yeah, yeah, when
they actually follow that
calling and do what God's putupon their life it is.
It's just a huge blessing andthat should be every that's our
goal.
I mean you know we want all ofour kids.
You know we pray that somedaythey'll all be in church and
I'll be doing what it is thatGod's called them to do.
And I think that that should beevery parent's goal, because
(25:35):
that carries on into the nextgeneration.
You know that makes sure thatyour grandkids are in church,
right?
I think their hunger is basedon your hunger.
Yeah, exactly, I agree withthat.
Michelle Moore (25:44):
Yeah, so, vicki,
when you were talking about,
you know, as you know, kira, youknow you are mom, you know,
that's it's all it's.
Mom, dad, you know you are mom,you, you know, that's, it's all
it's mom, dad, you know.
(26:05):
Whatever, how do you navigatefor someone out there?
For, like, I mean, even we wentthrough that.
You know the other.
The kid was not allowed to callthe other parent mom or dad.
Yeah, did you ever have to walkthat at any?
Vicky Albious (26:20):
time.
You know what's crazy is.
I think it was the day we weregetting married and Kira and I
were together and you know we'regetting ready and stuff, and I
remember I actually have a videoon my phone and I'm in the car
and I said something about todayis a great day, it's an awesome
(26:40):
day, you know, and I'm going tohave a new husband and a brand
new daughter.
You know, like I just, you know, and she is in the back, yeah,
her cute little voice, and she'slike, and I have a new mommy,
and you know, and all this, andit was just the sweetest thing.
But you know, we told her Ican't remember if we had a
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conversation that day or it waswhen we had gotten back from her
honeymoon, but I told her.
I said, kira, I want you toknow that you, if you want to
call me Mama or whatever, that'sfine.
You know, if you want to callme Mama V, if you, you know
whatever you're comfortable with, or if you want to still call
me Vicki, that's fine.
You know you do what'scomfortable.
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And she started out calling meMama V you know, and then it
wasn't long before she droppedthat V, you know, and I just
became Mama, and you know shecalls her mom, mommy or Mom or
whatever you know, but I'vealways been Mama and so, yeah,
it's just, I don't know that'sawesome, it's just natural, yeah
, and I mean we came.
Michelle Moore (27:41):
Just I don't
know that's awesome, it was just
natural, yeah, and I mean wecame from a different.
You know, I always wanted to becalled that, but it was never
that way.
And you know, for the ex it wasI don't know if it was a
threatening thing or you knowjust like to where.
You know you just weren'tallowed to do that.
And I think even then, when youstart something like that, it's
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hard for the child.
And you know, and I look atback now and I'm thinking I
should have just been more stern, you know it's like.
But you know you are, you'remarried, you know, and I mean
you know your place.
As a stepmother you know, and asa stepfather you know, your
place I mean it does not takethe place of a mom and a dad,
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and sometimes I think, becausethe other I mean I wouldn't say
the other exes, but neither oneof ours went to church, so we
fought that a lot.
Did you ever find that youfought that a lot with your ex?
Scottie Albious (28:39):
Oh yeah, I know
, you know there was times where
even an identity, identity lastname was changed on jerseys,
and so we knew there was that,that pressure of you're this,
you're this, you're my daughter,you're my, and for us it was
like I think for us it was wewould get you know angry at
first, but then we, then I'd sitthere and be like you know what
she truly knows, you know whatshe truly knows.
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She'll truly know that's good,and don't you know, don't force
you know, be like.
If she's telling you this, wellthen, here's what.
I'm telling you Don't let themdo that.
Daniel Moore (29:10):
And you just go to
the Lord.
Scottie Albious (29:12):
You know, like
I said, go to the Lord, have Him
, lead it and be like God.
I'm angry.
Michelle Moore (29:22):
I don't know
what to that.
Not you guys, but everybodyelse that's listening and we're
still learning.
Daniel Moore (29:29):
So then the boys
came along, yeah, and that's a
whole new dynamic when that tookplace.
So Kara's already integrated.
You know, mom, dad, all thisdynamics are all in place,
everything's going good.
So when the boys came along, doyou feel like there was any
struggle there with Kira?
Do you think she worried anyabout the boy, because the boys
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are both of yours?
Do you think she had any?
Vicky Albious (29:54):
issue there.
You know, from the get-go, whenI got pregnant, kira was so
excited and from the get-go itwas this is your baby.
You know, I made sure to know,like for her to know, like he is
yours as well.
Oh, so good and so so good.
Scottie Albious (30:14):
That's that
wisdom.
I'm telling you, yeah, awesome.
Vicky Albious (30:17):
There were times
like she would be sitting
playing piano and singing, andhe would, you know, Ty, would, I
think, well, israel, more so hewould just start moving, you
know, and I would let her fillmy stomach when he's moving.
Scottie Albious (30:32):
She would talk
to him too.
Vicky Albious (30:33):
Yeah, and she
would talk to him and you know,
and I'd be like he can hear yousinging, you know, and he can
hear you playing, playing.
And so when we told her shedidn't, you know, when we found
out he was a boy, we wrote aletter from Israel, you know, to
her and said you know somethingabout just I love to hear you
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sing, I love to hear you worshipwith mama, you know, and just
wrote it to her from Israel andKira goes wow, he has great
handwriting.
She's always so funny.
But she gets to the part and itsays and I am a, and she turns
the paper over a boy, and shewas like a boy and she was like,
oh great, mama, we'reoutnumbered here because we had
like three boy dogs and then dadand now a boy, but you know,
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just always making her such apart of that, you know.
And then when Israel came along, he was her world and they have
a bond like you just wouldn'teven believe Like, and they're
just nutty together.
Scottie Albious (31:44):
They're so
funny it was just a character
anyway, um, but she I mean justsoaked up every minute, you know
, and yeah, it just I think,from our perspective, when I,
when I look back at it, you know, I think here from there was
different dynamics.
On one side, she was the onlychild, so she was getting
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everything.
On the other side, she was abig sister, so she got to see
both, both sides and I thinkhonestly she yearned to to see
her brothers.
You know, even still today.
It's funny because, like I'm inmy 40s and I'll be like, hey
guys, and she's 17, I'm like wehave a family discussion.
She's like are we have a familydiscussion?
She's like, are we getting anew baby sister or something?
Daniel Moore (32:26):
I'm like whoa whoa
whoa what.
Vicky Albious (32:27):
Where did that
come from?
I'm like, no, we're done.
What's wrong with you?
Yeah, we're done with that.
Scottie Albious (32:45):
So I know you
know you want to watch the boys
while we run to the store orsomething like that, and Titus,
the youngest, he'll be like,yeah, brother, sister time.
You know things like that and Iknow he loves driving her crazy
, but it's been fun watchingthat dynamic.
Daniel Moore (32:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah that's so cool.
Yeah, that's a big hurdle in alot of families because
sometimes the first siblingthat's already there when the
marriage comes together, whenthe new ones come along,
especially when the mom and dadare their parents.
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I've seen different times whereit's just been really brutal for
those children to understand.
And they start getting these.
You know they already seen onereplacement, because the mom and
dad have already divorced onceand so there's a new mom and a
new dad.
They've already seen that.
Well, now there's another childcoming in.
You know, a lot of times theylook at that as okay, here's
another replacement.
Where am I at now in thisequation?
And so I think that I wanted tobring that up because you know,
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fortunately, God, he's got hishand on you guys' marriage,
because he's given you a lot ofwisdom in how you handle those
situations, Because there's alot of couples out there that
have the same scenario.
But they don't approach it thatway, so they have problems.
Yeah, and then they got to tryto navigate.
Well, how do I fix this?
You know you're just as specialas this child.
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You know you want to make sureyou get that across to them.
But when they're young likethat, a lot of times they don't
quite understand and I thinkthey still might, you know, have
that fear just a little bit,and it takes them a while.
They have to walk that walk fora while to see exactly where
this is really going, and so Ilove that you guys were able to
share how this worked out foryou, because, again, this shows
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the Holy Spirit in work.
It shows Him working and showsHim in place, and I just can't
stress that enough, howimportant it is to follow the
Holy Spirit's lead.
Even in our family we think ofthe Holy Spirit as a church
thing.
You know, it's like we got achurch.
I'm ready to be filled with theHoly Spirit and you know, going
to get the prayer languages andall this stuff that goes along
with all of that.
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But you know what?
The Holy Spirit's a huge helpin every aspect of our lives.
It's not just a church thingand you know, if we're going to
have it in church, we need tohave it everywhere, 24-7.
And that's dealing with exes,or dealing with our kids or our
stepkids or, you know,step-parents, just whatever that
whole equation, you know, comesand throws at us.
We know Satan his main goal isto bust up families.
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The families make the church.
He hates the church.
And so his whole goal is just totake families out, because if
he can take them out one at atime, then he destroys the
church.
He's very effective in doingthat, and so, especially when it
comes to a blended familyscenario, I think that you know,
Michelle, and I can even attestto this you get so many more
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fights, so many more battlesthat you have to wage and make
it through, and you know it getsexhausting sometimes.
And.
I know, you know, I know youguys' walk that you've been
through and are going through.
Your kids are still young, soyou're still fighting some
battles that Michelle and I havemoved beyond at this point,
thank the Lord.
You know it's just it seemslike everything's going great
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and then all of a sudden, herecomes something else.
You know it's like right, whenthings are going good, satan
comes along and just tries.
And it makes it very difficult,but I do.
I'm like Michelle, you know.
I think that I'm so thankfulwith the way that you guys have
handled what you've done,because I think making a child
feel important.
Scottie Albious (36:18):
Yeah.
Daniel Moore (36:19):
Making them feel
like they belong, yeah, that
they can have some ownership ofsomething when something's
already been ripped away fromthem.
They have a new hope when theyhave some ownership there, and I
think that's super importantthat parents should take away
from this when they're in thatequation.
Scottie Albious (36:36):
And I think one
of the things that you said,
making them feel a part, one ofthe things too I believe it was
Titus, was that the one we havetechnology now?
I know she was on vacation orsomething.
I think is what it was.
And when Titus was born, one ofthe first things we did was we
FaceTimed her so she can be apart of it.
We're like, hey, look, becauseI know she was like, oh,
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brother's getting born right now, but we're like hey look,
sister, look.
You know, this is Titus and herface.
She was like, you know, just onFaceTime.
Just those little things, makethem be a part of it, you know,
make them be part of yourdecisions, even.
Vicky Albious (37:07):
With Israel.
She literally got back from avacation the day he was born and
so she got to be there withthat and then with Titus, I
ended up having kidney stonesthree weeks before I was due.
I thought I was dying.
I had no clue what was going onand so they ended up taking him
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earlier because I was havinghigher blood pressure and stuff
just from the pain of that andstuff.
But yeah, she missed Titus byabout four days and that was
tough.
But that's the thing with Kira,she's always just rolled with
the punches you know, and alwaysjust been amazing.
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But something else I kind ofwanted to speak to and if I can
even explain it right, but, likeyou know, sometimes I found
myself so caught up, you know,in everything with Kira that I
looked back and I felt like myboys kind of got second, you
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know, and it may sound crazywhen you're like that's your
second.
You know, and it may soundcrazy when you're like that's
your, that's your kid, you know,like that you birthed.
You know we walked through somereally tough times in our
earlier years, you know, withsome court situations and stuff
like that, and as a mom my heartwas just, you know, broken for
the things going on and for cureand stuff like that, to the
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point, you know I let itovertake.
You know, some joy and peace inmy life and in my home and that
definitely had an effect withyou know, my responses sometimes
to my boys, you know, and and Ifeel like there were moments
that I was so consumed with thepain of what was going on that I
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wasn't living life with them.
You know I was, but yet Iwasn't fully.
You know what I'm saying.
Tough times, you know, when itcomes to court situations or to
you know that kind of stuff thatyou really pay attention to,
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your joy and your peace and whatyou're allowing into your home.
You know, there came a pointwhere I was like chaos will no
longer come in this home becauseof what is going on with the
other side.
And there honestly came a timeit was a few years ago that I
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realized, you know, I look backat baby pictures and this sounds
crazy, but there may be someoneout there that's went through
this and they need to hear it.
But I couldn't even look backat some of the pictures of like,
especially Israel when he wasyounger, and it just sounds
crazy.
But I just felt pain when Ilooked back because I felt like
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gosh, did I miss some thingsBecause I was so consumed with
all the other stuff going on,you know, and I had a close
friend that she just said to meshe's like vicky, that is just
the enemy, don't let that reside.
And she was like for you know,israel loves you, you're his
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mama and he's not gonna rememberthat he was so young when a lot
of this stuff happened, youknow, and he just knows that his
mama loves him, you know, andhealing had to come into my
heart.
And now, you know, I can lookback at pictures and be fine and
, like I said, that may soundcrazy but like we don't realize
the things that we've held on tobecause of past trauma and
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things you know, and even insome recent stuff we've had, you
know, going on.
And things you know, and evenin some recent stuff we've had,
you know, going on, you know, Ifound myself like I just get to
this place where I get real sickto my stomach and I, you know,
I kind of just pull, pull in andand and I've had to go.
No, we're not going there again.
Like my kids need me, myhusband needs me, you know, and
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just allow God to heal thoseplaces you know that have hurt
so deep from past things youknow, and just be that present
person with your child.
You know, whether it's, youknow, the blended side or your,
you know like no, you have toreally pay attention to not let
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the enemy steal that joy andpeace out of your home because
of the chaos on the other side.
That's good advice.
Scottie Albious (41:38):
And I think
some of the men that are going
through this.
When you're seeing your wife,just, and there's nothing you
can do to fix, because we'refixers Nothing you can just say,
nothing you can do.
Man, you know, take that, allthat anger and all that, and
take it in a prayer.
I don't know if you know this,but if you're, if you're in a
marriage, you're going to beconstantly battled and by the
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enemy.
But if you go in a constantprayer, you know in his presence
the enemy must flee.
And just speak that over yourmarriage, over the situation,
over your kids, over yourfinances, anything that you're
involved in, and just cover it.
Just cover it with the Lord'spresence and ask the Holy Spirit
.
You know, there's times where,man, I would get angry in the
past.
I would respond with words,with with you know, with actions
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, and I'm a type of person thatif you're going to mess with me
and my family, I'm going to getmad, but I'm going to take all
the anger and put it into prayer.
You might pick on me, but God'sgoing to come after you.
I'm going to pray, god, help me, help me with a situation and
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just pray and I promise it mightnot change that circumstance at
the time.
But it'll change you and it'llchange your wife and it'll make
you both stronger together andfor more battles coming up.
You know we're like, okay, wegot this.
We've been here before, youknow, because this is like going
through court stuff.
We've done it, like you guys,multiple times.
It's not easy, it is not easy.
Vicky Albious (43:00):
Well, and the
kids always have the brunt of it
all.
Scottie Albious (43:03):
Yes, they do.
Vicky Albious (43:04):
And they're going
to respond and see how you're
going to you know off yourresponse, respond and see how
you're going to.
You know offer your responseand you know if they see you
going to the prayer closet andyou're not saying negative
things.
You know that's how they'regoing to learn to respond and
you know to realize like no,this is how we deal with
conflict and hurt and pain andda-da-da, you know, instead of
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the other way of you know thisis stupid.
Rah, rah rah rah, you know yeah.
Michelle Moore (43:33):
Well, and I
think sometimes too, you know
just not a prayer closet, butand I know you're big on worship
too, so I mean I'm that's oneof my fights.
I mean I'm just like, okay,it's prayer.
Vicky Albious (43:50):
It's worship time
and worship going before me,
and there's times I'll just sitat the piano and I'll be
worshiping.
You know the boys work herewill come in and just sit and
start singing with Mary, youknow.
But just yeah, having thatpresence in your home through
worship.
Daniel Moore (44:12):
He said something
kind of key.
You know, in Psalm 139 is whereDavid talks about search me, oh
God and see if there's any.
You know, non-right spiritwithin me.
You know, david is a goodexample, because he was
constantly being barraged fromall sides.
You know people were trying totake him out.
You know he was constantly inbattles but instead of him
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taking it out on everybody else,he humbled himself and said God
, is there something wrong in me?
That might be causing this.
Search me and take this out, ifthat's what it is, and I think,
more often than not, when we getinto these situations and these
conflicts and you know thedifferent things that can take
place within marriages andblended marriages and whatever
you know, sometimes that'sprobably the better way to
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handle that, you know is youknow, god, this is at your feet.
I'm going to have to leave thisin your hands because I don't
know what to do.
And look inside of me and makesure that I'm right.
Make sure that I'm where I needto be and I want to let you
handle this.
It's so hard to do that as ahuman being.
It's just difficult to takeourselves out of that equation,
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but it's amazing how things canturn around and they can change
if we do that.
Vicky Albious (45:21):
Here a couple of
weeks ago.
You know we had something kindof come.
That just was unexpected againand I didn't realize at the time
.
But I had allowed fear I meanto grip my heart hard and I was
laying in bed that night and Ijust I could not sleep.
Daniel Moore (45:41):
No, matter what I
did.
Vicky Albious (45:42):
And normally I
can like turn on my Bible, you
know, to read, and just thatbrings you know, and I'll go to
sleep and I'm laying there andthe Bible's going and I I'm not
even hearing it because there'sso many things racing through my
mind, you know.
And I was like, and so finally,like three, 30 in the morning,
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I told God, I was like fine, I'mgetting up, I'm going to my
prayer closet until I hearsomething from you, I have to
hear a word from you.
And I got up and I walked Ourprayer closet's, our main closet
.
So I walked through thebathroom and go, and my first
step into the closet, god spoketo me and he said Vengeance is
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mine.
And I was like, okay, and youknow, at first you think,
awesome, you go get her.
You know, like you're going todeal with this, and I realized
that God was saying vengeance ismine.
You better keep your heartstraight.
You better not let bitternessand anger come into this
situation right now, becauseit's going to do nothing.
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And so I just got on my facefor the Lord and I continued
praying, you know, for the nextwhile and he spoke a couple
other things, you know, and Ican honestly say I got up out of
that closet, I walked out and Idid not feel any different.
I didn't feel peace, I didn't,you know, even though he had
spoke to me and stuff.
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And I went and got back in bedand I laid there for another
hour or so, two, before Scotty'salarm went off to, you know, go
to work.
And when he woke up and I saidyou got to do something to fix
this, like I can't do this again, you know, I said you got to do
something to fix this, like Ican't do this again, you know.
And then he went and got in theshower and then he was talking
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to me and just really encouragedme and, you know, kind of
helped my heart that morning.
He went on to work and I justkind of, throughout that day,
struggled through it, you know.
And then that Sunday I got up toand I, you know, I got to go to
church and lead worship, youknow, and you know my heart, I
wasn't feeling bitter and stuff.
I just too much, I was allowingtoo much to race through my mind
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.
And so, you know, we go throughpractice and we get into, we
have a prayer time and stuff,and I pray with my team.
And then I just immediatelyjust felt God was like you go
and let Miss Paula pray over you.
And so I went and I sat down byher and I didn't even say much
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to her, I just said it's been arough week and, you know, I just
have a lot going through mymind and I need the Lord to just
touch me today, you know, andbecause I don't want my stuff to
get in the way of what he wantsto do in his house today.
And so she just prayed thesweetest, simple you know it
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wasn't some powerful word foryou know, and it was just god.
You know, you cover her, you,she needs you, and and she just
prayed some things over me.
And then, you know, at the shehad something to the effect of
when we feel inadequate or notenough.
He is more than enough.
And I'm telling you that day inservice, like the Spirit of God
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came and people just came andwere worship, like just came up
on their own during worship andjust lifting their hands and
stuff.
And I just say that toencourage you.
You know, like no matter whatyou're facing, what you're
walking through, even if you goin your prayer closet and you
come out feeling the same, evenwhen we don't see it or feel it,
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god is still moving, he's stillworking.
If we are surrendering ourheart before Him and surrender
is so huge when it comes to theblended side of stuff, like God,
I don't understand this.
Why do we have to go throughthis again?
What?
Why?
Why is this happening?
Why?
Why?
Why?
You know, and he's just sayingI need you to trust me and
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believe me because all thisstuff, if you will lay it in my
hands, I will use it and it willbe for your good and man.
I can look back over so manythings walking this journey and
how God has just moved inmiraculous ways that you
sometimes don't see till you'refurther down the road, and he
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just is so faithful.
You know, and I was teachingclass last Wednesday and we were
talking about suffering how youknow, in one of the things that
it was Lisa Harper's study andshe said you can have a broken
heart and raised hands at thesame time.
And man that spoke so deep tome and I was like that's it,
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like it's that surrender andthat just god, I don't get it
and this really hurts and itreally stinks right now, but I'm
gonna trust your heart becauseyou've always been faithful,
you've always been good, and sojust encouragement, you know,
surrender and be obedient towhat he's speaking yeah, uh, you
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know that reminds me kind of aguess, a little bit of peek into
next week's episode I've gotcoming out, but I've got a bonus
episode coming out next week togo with the rejection study
that I just finished.
Daniel Moore (51:00):
And one thing that
got impressed on me that I kind
of go through on this nextepisode is a lot of times we
want to ask God the whyquestions, but in all reality we
need to be asking Him the whatInstead of why is this happening
?
Why am I going through this?
We need to be saying God, whatare you trying to show me?
What are you trying to changewithin me that I need to change?
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What can I do to make thisbetter, following your path
versus my path?
And if we can get into that modewhere we, you know, flip this
the complete opposite directionof how Satan wants us to do it
you know he wants us to sitthere and get anxious and worry
and all this stuff, you know,and that's what those why
questions will do to us.
If we can actually get beyondthat, to the what, then God can
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actually come in and he changesthings tremendously, and then we
give Him something to work withat that point.
Michelle Moore (51:56):
Just a side note
you'll have to go back and
listen to that episode, becausethat episode is before we put
these all out, so it would bepast like four weeks ago.
Daniel Moore (52:09):
Oh, that's right.
Yes, thank you for correctingme on that.
I record these ahead of timeand sometimes I get out there
and they're not waiting on.
That's why I have my wife.
She's not really.
Yes, that was three weeks agoor four weeks ago that you need
to go back and check thatepisode out, but that's a that's
very powerful.
(52:30):
And I think unless you guyshave something to add to that, I
think we're.
Michelle Moore (52:35):
Do you, Scotty?
Do you have anything you wantto put on here?
Scottie Albious (52:38):
Yeah, so just a
couple things.
You know, today was we weregoing over Psalm 51.
And, man, that really hit me,because there's so many times
I'm an aggressive person if Iget angry so I want to lash out
in the flesh and there's timeswhere I'm like man.
I got to fix my heart, I got toget it in check.
Psalm 51, 10 says create me aclean heart, o God.
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Renew a loyal spirit within me.
And then it goes on in 11 saysdo not banish me from your
presence, don't take away theHoly Spirit from me.
And, man, how are you supposedto?
For me, it's always been joy,you know.
And so what I mean by create aclean heart is man.
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You know, have a and I say thishave a heart of like.
You know you're going to battle.
You know, renew that spirit ofyou know and I've told her many
times this situation is notgoing to rob our joy, it's not
going to rob our marriage, it'snot going to rob our kids.
We're going to go and we'regoing to pray and we're going to
fight back.
You know we're going to fightand that's all we're going to do
(53:42):
.
It's through prayer.
We're going to keep fightingand you know court if you're in
a mode of man man.
The court system doesn't seethis.
They don't understand theChristian values, they don't
respect this.
No, but he's the ultimate judge.
Yes, that's correct, he's goingto change things.
He's more powerful than thoselawyers, the attorneys, the
judges.
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He's the judge, that's right,so go after him.
And number two, I was going tosay, man, I love being able to
do know we get emotional becauseit's rehashed a lot of hurts
and even that pain that you knowfrom two years ago, it's still
new and it's raw, you know.
And it also reminds me, man,this is how we battled, we're
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going to do it again, we're notgoing to give up.
So it builds our faith.
And you guys have been amazingdoing this and because you said,
yes, you know, and beingobedient, god's going to bless
this, god's going to bless yourministries, your heart for
marriage.
You guys have been through alot.
You guys have helped us a lot.
You have no idea how many timeswe said remember when Dan said
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this, remember when Michelle didthis, remember when they went
through that you remember.
So we would use that into ourlives too.
So, man, it's been an, it's beenan honor to walk and serve with
you guys, and I see why Godbrought us together when we're
serving because, man, that wasduring our toughest times of
court, toughest time of you know, I was able to come to you guys
and be like man we'restruggling with this and you
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always had an answer to help us.
You guys always had an answerto bring peace and joy and
comfort, even by you know, bybeing obedient and allowing the
Holy Spirit to be used by youguys.
So, thank you so much and, man,I'm excited for you guys and
your ministries.
Oh, I appreciate that, ofcourse, very much.
Love it.
Vicky Albious (55:24):
I wanted to share
one more verse, and this was
one that God gave me.
It was one of the times we weregoing through court and I think
anyone you know who loves theLord and maybe going through a
tough time times we were goingthrough court and I think anyone
you know who loves the Lord andmaybe going through a tough
time.
But it's in Psalms 5, verse 11and 12.
And it says but let those thatput their trust in thee rejoice.
Let them ever shout for joybecause thou defendest them.
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Let them also that love thyname be joyful in thee, for thou
, lord, wilt bless the righteousWith favor.
Wilt thou come past him as witha shield?
And God just spoke that to meone time and it was just, you
know, saying I'm your defender,you don't have to battle this
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out.
You know, like I've got yourback and even though, you know,
in those times things didn't goexactly how we hoped they would,
you know God still had a planand we still had to trust His
heart in that.
And just another thing you know, I encourage you to pray with
your spouse and you may say like, oh, I don't know how to do
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that, or, you know, even juststart out simple of thank you
for my wife, thank you for myhusband, you know, and it's so
powerful.
There's been so many times thatI've just been struggling and I
would say I just need you topray over me, like I just need
that prayer cover from myhusband.
You know that's so important.
But yeah, god is our defenderand we can trust his heart.
Scottie Albious (56:54):
And it's so
important.
But, yeah, god is our defenderand we can trust his heart.
And that's praying with yourspouse.
That's such a powerful form ofintimacy.
Daniel Moore (56:58):
Yeah.
Scottie Albious (56:58):
Because a lot
of wives want to hear what's on
our hearts what's on our minds?
And so when we're asking Godfor things and they're listening
, you know they get to hearwhat's in our hearts.
This ministry you guys aredoing, you know, even with with
this topic blending families Ithink it's awesome.
I think there needs to be like40 other podcasts on blending
families, because if you're ablended family, you're not alone
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, right.
Daniel Moore (57:20):
You are not alone.
I don't care what you're inchurch.
Scottie Albious (57:23):
There's things
where I read this book that says
, even though you're divorced,god doesn't hate you.
He hates divorce, but he lovesyou.
And I was like it's so simple.
If you're in a blending family,you've been divorced.
God loves you Absolutely.
Reach out, look for people,start a ministry at your church
or something.
Vicky Albious (57:40):
There is healing.
Yes, yeah, I can remember.
I think it was our third yearof XO and there was a couple
there and they spoke on blendedfamilies and I mean, we both sat
up there and sobbed like wedidn't even have Kleenexes and
I'm pretty sure, like we couldhave went through a box of them
that day.
But but it was so healing andthere's so many people that need
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healing.
And I remember them saying youknow how they had stuck things
out and it had been so hard.
You know but their kids howthey had stuck things out and it
had been so hard, you know.
But their kids, when they gotolder, they said to them thank
you guys for sticking togetherand for fighting for us.
You know, and as a family andstuff, and and I just remember
thinking, man, I look for thatday because that's been several
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years back over seven years ago,I think, and so you know.
Yeah, god, god has put people inthe places to help you know and
search it out.
Yeah, that's awesome.
There's help and healing.
So, guys, you know anybody outthere?
Daniel Moore (58:45):
that's, you know,
struggling with feelings of
shame and guilt.
You know comparison because ofpast relationships and things
that you've been through.
Definitely rewind the last 15minutes of this episode.
Just keep listening to it.
There's a lot of you guys havejust spoken so much truth and
what needs to be heard out thereand I want to thank you guys so
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much for taking your time tosit with us.
Michelle Moore (59:10):
Thank you so
much and pouring your hearts out
.
Daniel Moore (59:12):
Yes, yeah, it's.
You know, this side of eternity, we never know who's going to
be touched by the things that wedo Right.
But you know there's no doubtGod uses all of this for His
good.
That's true.
And we know that he changes andyou know, changes lives, when
all of us will speak up rightsay something, because a lot of
times people do feel likethey're alone yeah and that's.
(59:34):
That's just not a good place tobe right and so I do.
I tremendously, michelle, and Iboth, you know.
Thank you guys for taking yourtime out youtube and for being
here.
We love you guys, yeah we'll.
We'll look to do this againsometime.
Oh for sure.
We've been wanting to have youall on here, so we've had to
find out the perfect opportunityand we'll have some more down
the road, I'm sure.
Michelle Moore (59:54):
Yeah, because we
could go hours and hours oh
yeah, oh yeah.
Daniel Moore (59:57):
Yeah, no doubt
about it.
You know, between the four ofus we've got a lot to talk about
.
So yes, that's for sure.
So we're going to go ahead andcall it a wrap on this week.
Then, If you guys haven'tlistened to all the episodes,
Scotty and Vicki's been with usthis week and the last two weeks
previous.
We've talked about differentthings that have to do with
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marriage, and you'll be blessedby each and every one of those.
If you've not caught those, soplease go back and check those
out, but for now, that's goingto do it for this weekend.
So make sure that you dosubscribe so that you don't miss
any episodes of our podcast.
They roll out each week onThursdays.
I'm Daniel Moore and my wife,Michelle, has been sitting over
here with me as my co-host thisweek.
Hi guys, and of course Scottyand Vicki.
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Thank you again.
Scottie Albious (01:00:41):
Thank you.
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