December 31, 2024 • 29 mins
Join us on the Married AF Podcast as we share our personal revelations, backed by insights from our listeners in Los Angeles and New York City. We reflect on Isaiah 40, which challenges us to prepare a way for the Lord, and this revelation leads us to ponder whether we're living authentically or simply adhering to societal expectations.
As we transition to spiritual introspection, explore the profound impact of prophetic, priestly, and kingly worship. These forms of worship, especially when exemplified by inspiring figures like Angela Schaefer, guide us toward a deeper connection with God, revealing untouched areas in our lives for divine connection. As 2024 draws to a close, we look forward to 2025 with a renewed trust in God’s plan, hoping our discussions inspire you to enrich your relationships and spiritual journey. Through gratitude and prayer, we express thankfulness for the opportunity to share God's word and for the blessings that guide us all.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
here's a question for you is marriage overrated?
Why aren't people gettingmarried anymore?
A new pew research poll foundthat two and five young adults
think marriage is an outdatedtradition marriage rates are at
their lowest right now.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Is marriage really even worth it?
More than half of marriages endin divorce.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
If you get married, you have to be stuck with this
person for the rest of your life, right?
That's why you get married, sothat's why it's declining.
Why would you get married ifyou don't?
If you want to have just onepartner when you can have
multiple Marriage is stupid.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Welcome to the Married AF Podcast, the
self-proclaimed greatestmarriage relationship podcast in
the world.
We are your hosts, matthew andMonica Powers, and I feel like I
have been misled my entire lifewith what I want to talk about
today, like forever.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I think misled's a.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I don't know if it's misled, but we just All right.
So I read some scripture it mayhave even been a month or so
ago and it just just caught me,ripped me, ripped you.
Deep in my soul, deep in myheart, like holy crap, I've been
doing it wrong my entire life.
I've been lied to.
This isn't what I've been toldforever and ever, and I just
(01:21):
have not been able to shake thatfeeling.
So we started talking about itand I thought this was a good
conversation for us to have.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Well, we were having the conversation and I just
looked at you.
Should we just do this as apodcast, because this is more of
a discussion?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's becoming more and more the case with our
conversations.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I think I just kept asking you questions and you're
not Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well, yeah, but no, but yes and yes, I'm just not
quite sure, and we'll get tothat in just a second, as we're
closing out 2024, when thiscomes out, this is it.
2024 is at a close.
This will come out on December21st, december 31st, 2024, the
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last day of 2024, and what ayear it has been for married af
yeah, it's um I'm not sure whatyou're pulling out.
Mind-boggling the the mind thethe downloads guys.
Thank you so much.
Who, who?
Watch who listen, who watch?
We're over 13,000 subscriberson YouTube.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
What does that even mean?
That's insane.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
We're getting 20,000 or so views per video, and that
is all because of you guys.
We cannot say thank you enough.
It is humbling, it isunexpected, way unexpected.
We never expected this when westarted this, what we found.
We started this podcast almostexactly one year after we
launched the small group thatturned it into a podcast.
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2025, in September, will be thefourth year, but really the
second year, that we'veconsistently done something with
it.
But it's been incredible and wecannot thank everyone enough
who listens to Washes in 2021.
2021.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
2021.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
We started this and it was hey, let's do an episode,
let's go a few months, allright, we'll do something else.
There was no consistency.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
We've been pretty consistent over this last year,
because I didn't want you to doa podcast.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And it's been incredible and we cannot thank
everyone enough for liking,subscribing, watching,
commenting, just all of it.
We're so, so thankful for thatas we close out 2024 into a
wonderful 2025, not for us, butfor every single one of you.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yes, I just want to say thank you to Los Angeles.
Los Angeles, california.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
That's number one.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Never in a million years would I have expected Los
Angeles, California.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
That is 26% of listeners.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Those are from LA.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Number two shocked me just as well, and they are at
23% Dang.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, new York City.
23%.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Dang yeah, new York City.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Look at that the two biggest cities in the United
States.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
What, thank you Holding at one and two and
number three.
They're holding strong at 12%San Jose, california and holding
strong at 10% of listenersChicago Illinois.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Look at that People must love a Southern accent.
Maybe, so, Maybe that's what itis.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I guess so.
But then there's Dallas isunder Chicago, and then Miami
Florida.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Wow, unbelievable.
As we close out a year, all wecan say is humbling and thank
you, thank you, thank you 82,000downloads on the podcast.
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Like for all time.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Never in a million years would we have expected
that.
All glory goes to God.
He's the one who's taken this,he's the one who wanted to do
something with this, and we'vesaid from the get-go, let it
reach the ears that need to hearit, and God, whenever you're
done with it just let us knowwe'll be done with it.
We'll move on to the next thingthat you want us to do.
So I cannot say thank youenough for all of that.
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But back to this.
As we close out the year, itjust wrecked me.
I was like this.
I've been doing it wrong mywhole life, and what it was was
Isaiah, chapter 40, and itstarts in verse three.
It says a voice of one callingin the wilderness prepare the
way for the Lord, make straightin the desert a highway for our
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God.
And it was that sentence in thewilderness, you prepare a way
for the Lord Forever.
We've always been told, we'vealways been taught, we've always
been led to believe, which isit's all true that God's making
a way for me, god's preparing aplace for me, god's preparing
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the way for me, god is leadingthe way for me, god is leading
the way for me.
And while all that is true, wedon't talk about prepare a way.
Hey you, hey powers, you go,prepare a way for the Lord.
And when I thought about it, itmade me question like well, am I
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doing that?
Because we see John the Baptistdo that for Jesus.
John the Baptist, he was thereto prepare the way for the
Savior of the world, for theMessiah, and he did.
But how well do I prepare theway for Jesus?
Am I doing all I can do toprepare the way?
Now, I know he's doing thestuff for me, but am I doing
anything to prepare the way?
And it made me think howme-focused am I that maybe I'm
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not preparing a way, maybe I'mjust sitting back and saying,
god, you do it, you prepare theway for me, I will follow which
we're supposed to follow.
But what am I doing?
And I just it's been on my mindfor a month.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
And I guess I started kicking back with.
Well, doesn't that mean?
I mean, think about, we'refishers of men now.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
We are and I think that's kind of where it goes to
is, you know, the GreatCommission.
Jesus says go into the worldand make disciples of all
nations, and that's exactly whatwe're supposed to do.
How well am I doing that,because I think that's where
this relates back to is how wellam I doing that, because I
think that's where this relatesback to is how well am I
preparing a place for the lordto work, not not just for me.
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You know, more of him, less ofme, is essentially what it boils
down to.
If I think we had to take itdown to the most granular level,
is less of me, more of he,period I.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
But then I started saying well, isn't that the same
thing as making disciples?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
it should be, I think , because that's ultimately what
jesus is.
He's told us to do go into theworld and make disciples of all
nations and I have pulled outlike every you got notebook,
notebook upon notebook uponnotebook.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I take a lot of notes .
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yes, and you're old school, you take notes, notes.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I am paper and pen Totally and I have books from I
think this is 2019, 2021 here2020, 2022.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
It looks like it didn't make it down here.
You had the 2017.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I did not bring down this 2017 one.
Uh, this one might be a 2021too, but when you started, you
said something that sparked mybrain and I said just hold that
thought.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I just got up and walked away you did and you're
like oh, look an old iphone.
Oh my gosh, look old ipads.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I had to move all of those to get to my long list of
notes that I've taken.
I take notes every Sunday andevery experience I go in I take
notes.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Every Sunday, every meeting, every conference,
everything.
You're taking notes of what'sgoing on.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
If I go into meetings or small groups or anything
like that.
I will keep it in whatever yearthat I am Check this out.
This was Easter Sunday of 2021.
Looks like Cashman sat in withme.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And Drew.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Had pictures.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
He sure did.
It's like a football game, aguitar, an Easter bunny.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
An Easter bunny a guitar.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
But this Easter bunny has a beard.
He does hey listen, but I takenotes, even if I've already
heard the message.
I put the times Like this oneright here.
That's open right now.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
it says powers, practicing you used to go over
your messages with me before.
I used to go over the messagesin the living room beforehand.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I would just write everything down, like I was
taking notes, like I was inchurch.
I would help you.
You don't want to say that outloud.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
You're like oh, please don't say that.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Here's one.
This was a 9 am.
This was same date 10 15.
So we have the 9, 10, 15 and 1130 if I sit through every
single one, I will take notesand I will write down the time.
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So yes, these are very muchdetailed.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Very detailed.
But when I said that, when yousaid something.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I don't remember what it was.
I just said hold, that thoughtLike this is a Jackie Perry Hill
small group that I did yearsago.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
You questioned.
You know why do you feel thatway?
Why?
And then just bam, you're likeI've got.
I need to go grab my notes.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Hold that thought and just walked away.
I had to move all the things toget to all of these because
there's a lot of information.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
There is.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
In all of these, but the one thing that stuck out to
me when I asked you do you thinkyou're doing enough?
Like what are you?
What are you doing?
Like, do you think you are?
Yes, of course sometimes, butwhy do you think you're not?
And the word that you said wasbecause being selfish yes that
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made me go straight to 2020.
This is just how my crazy brainworks, but it was a, you know,
when the whole world shut down,I did a six weeks course with
Rick Pino and, man, I have pagesupon pages upon pages of notes.
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You know those stickyone-liners that those sticky
statements.
I love those, and the one thatthe whole six weeks honestly
stood out to me when you weresaying that, yeah, sometimes I
do, sometimes I don't think I'mdoing enough, but you're not.
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The reason why you don't thinkso and why many people probably
don't lead that way is becausethey're selfish.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, it's very me-centered when you leave
church on a Sunday.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It ends there for most people.
Most people believe an hour aweek is all that I need, but all
I could think of was about allof these sticky statements that
came to mind but yes, this isall referring to worship, but
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that also made me think ofleading the way yeah, well, when
you were.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
when you lead worship , you're leading other people
into worship.
It's not a performance forpeople to enjoy.
It's that it's preparing theway for people to encounter
Jesus.
That's what worship's all about.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Okay, so this sticky statement was the first one that
I read to you, and then that'swhen I said should we just go
downstairs and make this apodcast?
Don't cling to something sotight because of an ego, because
you could miss out on thethings God has for you to move
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on and move up.
Be intentional.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I think that's a huge statement, because our ego is
our ego can hold us back from awhole lot of things, and because
we are selfish and it's ourhuman nature, we want to feel
good about ourselves, we want tobe encouraged, we want to be
told hey, you're doing a goodjob.
We want to be seen, we want tobe recognized because it just it
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feels good.
So, yeah, how many times havewe let our?
Well, I want to make sure thatI get recognized and I want to
be seen and I want to make sureI get this out of this
circumstance that we'recompletely missing.
We're completely missing thepoint.
We're missing what God has instore for us.
We're looking over here forvalidation when God's over here,
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saying, man, there's somethingmuch bigger over here.
If you would just turn yourstupid face away from that and
look this way.
So, yeah, being intentional Ithink being intentional of every
moment that we possibly have totake the focus off of us and
put the focus on him.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I'm just going to read all of this right here.
It ain't about you.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
That's an impossible statement for us to really grab
a hold of.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I know people don't think about.
When it comes to this.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Also just anyone listening.
Take that tough one to heartright there.
It ain't about you.
It ain't about you.
This life ain't about you.
Your relationship's not aboutyou.
Your marriage, your job none ofthis stuff is about you.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
People don't necessarily see, or maybe people
who are on the worship team do.
But if you're not in a leadingposition or you just like the
music that is on a Sunday, youdon't think about things as
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being intentional with worship.
Kick your worship level up to10.
The Bible doesn't tell us to beabout fear and depression.
You can't worship if you'reworried or you have any kind of
anxiety, or you have any kind ofanxiety If you can't worship.
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Well, you can't worship If youare worried about what people
think of you and what you looklike.
And if you stay worried, youain't using the power of praise.
That is a way to lead Someone.
Necessarily, because you'releading people is saying what
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are you doing to make the wayfor what was it?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Make.
Prepare the way for the Lord.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
So I see this in worship, and maybe this is the
only way I can break it down ina sense, because with worship I
learned that there are threetypes of people when it comes to
worship.
There's are three differentelements and, um, the first one
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is a prophetic worship, when youhave the spirit of prophecy the
right thing at the right time,just something that everybody
needs and then you have priestlyworship.
Are those people who worshipGod first?
They have the vertical worship.
They don't have the horizontalworship.
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Are you doing this?
Because all the people that arehere watching you do this?
Those aren't those people.
They have the vertical worship.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
That's straight to God, our worship is for an
audience of one.
Yes, that's it.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
It's me and God.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
And I'm trying really hard to push that towards our
son, to let him know that it isokay, even when he's in there
with me.
I'm worshiping big.
Now I will see his hands, youknow, right here at times, and
then if anybody's close around,he doesn't want people to see.
No, he's not the center ofattention guy and I get that.
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But what I'm praying over himis that he knows that it's just
between him and God.
What everybody else around doesnot matter.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
No, you're worshiping for one and one only you're
worshiping for one and one only.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
It says there will always be people with a
horizontal worship and they needthat to get across that to the
ministry.
They need to be on thatplatform, but that is not
necessarily a person who isactually leading.
That's a me moment, this, andif you have those people on the
worship team, you can absolutelysee that.
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But a vertical worship isalways greater.
Now the third one is a kinglyworship.
This is the person who isfilled with the Holy Spirit who
raises everyone up in worshipand they push others forward and
knowing that they will dogreater things than you could
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ever do.
It's.
They are the ones that you justknow.
You can look at someone that'son the platform and there's one
person that comes to mind morethan any other person, and I
know a lot of people in ourworship team and I don't want
anyone to get offended, but ourfriend, angela Schaefer, just
screams kingly worship In everyway possible.
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Everything that she does, evenher hugs, are magical.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And I don't like people hugging me.
When I watch her worship,especially on the platform, it
seems it's a hey, I'm about togo worship god, I'm grabbing all
y'all, y'all coming with me.
Let's go.
You know, every single one ofyou.
Come on, jump on my back.
I'm carrying every one of youwith me.
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I I totally agree with that we have been on the
platform together, side by side,before, and we I said y'all got
in trouble, didn't?
You.
We've gotten trouble.
Y'all can't be together.
Y'all gonna be separated butsince that last time we have not
been on worship together.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I was just, I think y'all even like, gave each other
a high five in the middle yes,jesus, we were not staying in
our light.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
We were supposed to stay in there, you know and
you're in your little area like,after that first experience,
they came up to us and go okay,you see these, it's okay this
way, but not this way.
But that right, there waskingly worship.
That was us leading full hearts, all on god for that vertical
worship nobody else mattered,and that's when you explain that
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.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
that's what I see for .
Prepare the way for the Lord,make straight in the desert a
highway for our God so God canreach everyone else, especially
in our own lives.
The way I take this and kind ofwhat I've been wrestling with
with it is am I creating a pathin my life and how I lead my
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life for anyone who comes incontact with me at all, for
Jesus to have access?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Well, I'll be honest.
You've read this to me multipletimes before we came down to do
the podcast yeah, probably adozen times in the last hour but
when you read it for thelisteners, it also hit me in a
different way, besides worshipokay read the first part of it,
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like the first half of it avoice of one calling, calling in
the wilderness.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Prepare the way for the Lord.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
There.
When you read that, when yousaid wilderness, what's a
wilderness?
Places that are untouched,Places that most people have
never been or been a part ofit's.
Nobody knows what's going onthere.
My first thought when you saidthat was holy crap, that's me.
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That's exactly what I do when Ifeel like, or it's what I feel
like when I walk into the hallsof a high school.
That's a wilderness Becausewe've removed God from all the
schools.
There's no church and school.
When we removed all of that, weremoved corporal punishment,
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We've removed all of thesethings and the schools continue
to get worse.
That should be your first sign.
Hey, that is a wilderness.
Nobody wants to go there.
It's full of things that wedon't know.
We are scared to conquer it.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Well, if it's a wilderness, it's the unknown.
Yeah, and we're terrified ofthe unknown, nobody wants to
deal with it.
No one wants to be the first manin.
You go and then I'll follow.
And maybe that's where a lot ofthis has come from, because,
again, it's always been the, thetalk, and what we've always
been taught is the lord willprepare the way and then you
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follow.
And I think we're morecomfortable with okay, god, you
go first, and once you, once youclear everything out and scare
all the bad guys away, make surethe path is clear, then then
I'll walk through that.
But this is saying, hey, in thewilderness, which I love your
explanation of it, thewilderness is the untouched, the
unknown, the places where Godhas not been reached yet, the
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people he hasn't come in contactwith yet.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Feels like what our backyard is right now.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah, the people who are so far separated from him.
Hey, you powers, you whoever'slistening.
You have a better opportunityto prepare the way in the
wilderness than I would bymyself.
Because of the relationshipsthat you may have with these
people or some sort of influenceyou may have with these people.
I will never be let in.
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But if you go and you preparethe way for me, watch what I can
do.
Yeah, I'm preparing the way foryou.
I've got you covered.
I've won the war.
You got nothing to worry about.
I'm going to protect you.
It's going to be hard, but ifyou go into this untouched area,
because you're more likely toget there than I am, you do that
.
Watch what I can do from there.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Maybe that helps you out just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Maybe it does a little bit, but it still makes
me think okay.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Are you doing enough?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Time to reflect.
What am I actually doing tomake sure that I can prepare the
way?
Or am I sitting back saying,okay, God, you go and I'll
follow?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Maybe we need to do a new end of the year tradition
type of thing For us.
I always put together a videoof all the things we got to do
this year.
It's a I don't know three orfour minute of pictures and
slides and little videos of allthe things we get to do that are
fun to outweigh all the badthings.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Because the bad things don't make it and the bad
things are there.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
don't let anyone think that they're not there.
2024 was a hard year for us.
Yeah, and guess what?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
maybe 2025 will be at some time too, it's never going
to change.
But that's the enemy coming in,because we are in the
wilderness, leading even when wedon't know it and yeah, and I I
agree with that, and maybe thisdoes help me a little bit and
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just makes me want to think okay, what more?
What more do I need to do tomake sure that I'm that, that
I'm doing this, that I'mpreparing the way?
Maybe we need to do to makesure that I'm doing this, that
I'm preparing the way.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Maybe we need to make a list of things that we know,
because how often do we do that?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Not often I need to go prepare the way.
So how do I do that?
It boils down to it's not aboutme, Less of me, more of him,
Trusting in him that hey, thiswilderness looks scary and this
is untouched, and I don't knowwhat's going to happen here.
But I'm not going to be afraidbecause I know God, you already
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won the war, it's over, Victoryis yours.
You tell us you're coming back.
You tell us you got our back.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Has he ever let me down before?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
No, and he's never gonna.
So why would I be led tobelieve that he's gonna do it
this time?
Go into the wilderness, preparethe way for the lord, because
that is how we make heaven abigger place yep okay, hopefully
that was helpful for somebody.
It was helpful for me at least.
I least I've been wrestlingwith that for a month, like what
am I doing anywhere near enoughto do what God needs me to do,
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or am I just sitting back ridinghis coattails?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Maybe it's time for you to go on that mission trip.
I've been begging you to go onfor years.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Boy oh boy.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Come into the wilderness with me.
Powers.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
We better close this out.
Close out 2024.
Any final thoughts for 2024?
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Do we keep going in 2025?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
If God wants it, he will make a way.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Numbers have been screaming at us.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Hopefully this helps people, hopefully people
continue to listen, but mostlyhopefully people are able to see
Jesus through this Some way,somehow.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Not us.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
And just get closer to him, Because if you're going
to take any of this away fromhow to work it into your
relationship more of your spouse, less of you.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
It's not about you.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
If anything.
I know we haven't been touchinghard on marriages, particularly
over the last few weeks, maybeeven more so episodes, but I
think all this really pertainsto create a better relationship
with your spouse.
If we take these principles andwe move forward, Goodbye 2024.
(27:48):
Hello 2025.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
That's about the only thing I'm going to say goodbye
to.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Goodbye 2024.
It's gone.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
It'll never come back , because I always say goodbye
is forever and you can't go back.
No, we can't.
Goodbye 2024.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Until Doc Brown shows up with that Delorean.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I won't go back.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
We're all set.
No, alright, let's be done.
Okay, god, we love you.
God, we are thankful for allthat you do.
We're thankful for thisplatform, we're thankful for
another year and we're lookingforward to the next year.
Our prayer, as always, is thiswill reach the ears that need to
hear it, today's word from you,god.
I hope it helps somebody, hopesomeone is able to understand
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what that means and can go alittle bit further in their walk
with you, and maybe they canprepare a way for you.
I know it did a lot for me.
Hopefully it did for someoneelse.
God, we're just so thankful forwhat you do.
We do not deserve it, we cannotearn it, but boy, are we ever,
ever, gracious and grateful foryou.
We love you and we thank you inJesus' name.
here's a question for you is marriage overrated?
Why aren't people gettingmarried anymore?
A new pew research poll foundthat two and five young adults
think marriage is an outdatedtradition marriage rates are at
their lowest right now.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Is marriage really even worth it?
More than half of marriages endin divorce.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
If you get married, you have to be stuck with this
person for the rest of your life, right?
That's why you get married, sothat's why it's declining.
Why would you get married ifyou don't?
If you want to have just onepartner when you can have
multiple Marriage is stupid.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Welcome to the Married AF Podcast, the
self-proclaimed greatestmarriage relationship podcast in
the world.
We are your hosts, matthew andMonica Powers, and I feel like I
have been misled my entire lifewith what I want to talk about
today, like forever.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I think misled's a.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I don't know if it's misled, but we just All right.
So I read some scripture it mayhave even been a month or so
ago and it just just caught me,ripped me, ripped you.
Deep in my soul, deep in myheart, like holy crap, I've been
doing it wrong my entire life.
I've been lied to.
This isn't what I've been toldforever and ever, and I just
(01:21):
have not been able to shake thatfeeling.
So we started talking about itand I thought this was a good
conversation for us to have.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Well, we were having the conversation and I just
looked at you.
Should we just do this as apodcast, because this is more of
a discussion?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's becoming more and more the case with our
conversations.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I think I just kept asking you questions and you're
not Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well, yeah, but no, but yes and yes, I'm just not
quite sure, and we'll get tothat in just a second, as we're
closing out 2024, when thiscomes out, this is it.
2024 is at a close.
This will come out on December21st, december 31st, 2024, the
(02:06):
last day of 2024, and what ayear it has been for married af
yeah, it's um I'm not sure whatyou're pulling out.
Mind-boggling the the mind thethe downloads guys.
Thank you so much.
Who, who?
Watch who listen, who watch?
We're over 13,000 subscriberson YouTube.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
What does that even mean?
That's insane.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
We're getting 20,000 or so views per video, and that
is all because of you guys.
We cannot say thank you enough.
It is humbling, it isunexpected, way unexpected.
We never expected this when westarted this, what we found.
We started this podcast almostexactly one year after we
launched the small group thatturned it into a podcast.
(02:50):
2025, in September, will be thefourth year, but really the
second year, that we'veconsistently done something with
it.
But it's been incredible and wecannot thank everyone enough
who listens to Washes in 2021.
2021.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
2021.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
We started this and it was hey, let's do an episode,
let's go a few months, allright, we'll do something else.
There was no consistency.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
We've been pretty consistent over this last year,
because I didn't want you to doa podcast.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And it's been incredible and we cannot thank
everyone enough for liking,subscribing, watching,
commenting, just all of it.
We're so, so thankful for thatas we close out 2024 into a
wonderful 2025, not for us, butfor every single one of you.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yes, I just want to say thank you to Los Angeles.
Los Angeles, california.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
That's number one.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Never in a million years would I have expected Los
Angeles, California.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
That is 26% of listeners.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Those are from LA.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Number two shocked me just as well, and they are at
23% Dang.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, new York City.
23%.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Dang yeah, new York City.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Look at that the two biggest cities in the United
States.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
What, thank you Holding at one and two and
number three.
They're holding strong at 12%San Jose, california and holding
strong at 10% of listenersChicago Illinois.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Look at that People must love a Southern accent.
Maybe, so, Maybe that's what itis.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I guess so.
But then there's Dallas isunder Chicago, and then Miami
Florida.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Wow, unbelievable.
As we close out a year, all wecan say is humbling and thank
you, thank you, thank you 82,000downloads on the podcast.
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Like for all time.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Never in a million years would we have expected
that.
All glory goes to God.
He's the one who's taken this,he's the one who wanted to do
something with this, and we'vesaid from the get-go, let it
reach the ears that need to hearit, and God, whenever you're
done with it just let us knowwe'll be done with it.
We'll move on to the next thingthat you want us to do.
So I cannot say thank youenough for all of that.
(05:16):
But back to this.
As we close out the year, itjust wrecked me.
I was like this.
I've been doing it wrong mywhole life, and what it was was
Isaiah, chapter 40, and itstarts in verse three.
It says a voice of one callingin the wilderness prepare the
way for the Lord, make straightin the desert a highway for our
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God.
And it was that sentence in thewilderness, you prepare a way
for the Lord Forever.
We've always been told, we'vealways been taught, we've always
been led to believe, which isit's all true that God's making
a way for me, god's preparing aplace for me, god's preparing
(06:00):
the way for me, god is leadingthe way for me, god is leading
the way for me.
And while all that is true, wedon't talk about prepare a way.
Hey you, hey powers, you go,prepare a way for the Lord.
And when I thought about it, itmade me question like well, am I
(06:21):
doing that?
Because we see John the Baptistdo that for Jesus.
John the Baptist, he was thereto prepare the way for the
Savior of the world, for theMessiah, and he did.
But how well do I prepare theway for Jesus?
Am I doing all I can do toprepare the way?
Now, I know he's doing thestuff for me, but am I doing
anything to prepare the way?
And it made me think howme-focused am I that maybe I'm
(06:44):
not preparing a way, maybe I'mjust sitting back and saying,
god, you do it, you prepare theway for me, I will follow which
we're supposed to follow.
But what am I doing?
And I just it's been on my mindfor a month.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
And I guess I started kicking back with.
Well, doesn't that mean?
I mean, think about, we'refishers of men now.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
We are and I think that's kind of where it goes to
is, you know, the GreatCommission.
Jesus says go into the worldand make disciples of all
nations, and that's exactly whatwe're supposed to do.
How well am I doing that,because I think that's where
this relates back to is how wellam I doing that, because I
think that's where this relatesback to is how well am I
preparing a place for the lordto work, not not just for me.
(07:33):
You know, more of him, less ofme, is essentially what it boils
down to.
If I think we had to take itdown to the most granular level,
is less of me, more of he,period I.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
But then I started saying well, isn't that the same
thing as making disciples?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
it should be, I think , because that's ultimately what
jesus is.
He's told us to do go into theworld and make disciples of all
nations and I have pulled outlike every you got notebook,
notebook upon notebook uponnotebook.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I take a lot of notes .
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yes, and you're old school, you take notes, notes.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I am paper and pen Totally and I have books from I
think this is 2019, 2021 here2020, 2022.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
It looks like it didn't make it down here.
You had the 2017.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I did not bring down this 2017 one.
Uh, this one might be a 2021too, but when you started, you
said something that sparked mybrain and I said just hold that
thought.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I just got up and walked away you did and you're
like oh, look an old iphone.
Oh my gosh, look old ipads.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I had to move all of those to get to my long list of
notes that I've taken.
I take notes every Sunday andevery experience I go in I take
notes.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Every Sunday, every meeting, every conference,
everything.
You're taking notes of what'sgoing on.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
If I go into meetings or small groups or anything
like that.
I will keep it in whatever yearthat I am Check this out.
This was Easter Sunday of 2021.
Looks like Cashman sat in withme.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And Drew.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Had pictures.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
He sure did.
It's like a football game, aguitar, an Easter bunny.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
An Easter bunny a guitar.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
But this Easter bunny has a beard.
He does hey listen, but I takenotes, even if I've already
heard the message.
I put the times Like this oneright here.
That's open right now.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
it says powers, practicing you used to go over
your messages with me before.
I used to go over the messagesin the living room beforehand.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I would just write everything down, like I was
taking notes, like I was inchurch.
I would help you.
You don't want to say that outloud.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
You're like oh, please don't say that.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Here's one.
This was a 9 am.
This was same date 10 15.
So we have the 9, 10, 15 and 1130 if I sit through every
single one, I will take notesand I will write down the time.
(10:23):
So yes, these are very muchdetailed.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Very detailed.
But when I said that, when yousaid something.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I don't remember what it was.
I just said hold, that thoughtLike this is a Jackie Perry Hill
small group that I did yearsago.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
You questioned.
You know why do you feel thatway?
Why?
And then just bam, you're likeI've got.
I need to go grab my notes.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Hold that thought and just walked away.
I had to move all the things toget to all of these because
there's a lot of information.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
There is.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
In all of these, but the one thing that stuck out to
me when I asked you do you thinkyou're doing enough?
Like what are you?
What are you doing?
Like, do you think you are?
Yes, of course sometimes, butwhy do you think you're not?
And the word that you said wasbecause being selfish yes that
(11:23):
made me go straight to 2020.
This is just how my crazy brainworks, but it was a, you know,
when the whole world shut down,I did a six weeks course with
Rick Pino and, man, I have pagesupon pages upon pages of notes.
(11:50):
You know those stickyone-liners that those sticky
statements.
I love those, and the one thatthe whole six weeks honestly
stood out to me when you weresaying that, yeah, sometimes I
do, sometimes I don't think I'mdoing enough, but you're not.
(12:11):
The reason why you don't thinkso and why many people probably
don't lead that way is becausethey're selfish.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, it's very me-centered when you leave
church on a Sunday.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It ends there for most people.
Most people believe an hour aweek is all that I need, but all
I could think of was about allof these sticky statements that
came to mind but yes, this isall referring to worship, but
(12:48):
that also made me think ofleading the way yeah, well, when
you were.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
when you lead worship , you're leading other people
into worship.
It's not a performance forpeople to enjoy.
It's that it's preparing theway for people to encounter
Jesus.
That's what worship's all about.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Okay, so this sticky statement was the first one that
I read to you, and then that'swhen I said should we just go
downstairs and make this apodcast?
Don't cling to something sotight because of an ego, because
you could miss out on thethings God has for you to move
(13:29):
on and move up.
Be intentional.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I think that's a huge statement, because our ego is
our ego can hold us back from awhole lot of things, and because
we are selfish and it's ourhuman nature, we want to feel
good about ourselves, we want tobe encouraged, we want to be
told hey, you're doing a goodjob.
We want to be seen, we want tobe recognized because it just it
(13:55):
feels good.
So, yeah, how many times havewe let our?
Well, I want to make sure thatI get recognized and I want to
be seen and I want to make sureI get this out of this
circumstance that we'recompletely missing.
We're completely missing thepoint.
We're missing what God has instore for us.
We're looking over here forvalidation when God's over here,
(14:23):
saying, man, there's somethingmuch bigger over here.
If you would just turn yourstupid face away from that and
look this way.
So, yeah, being intentional Ithink being intentional of every
moment that we possibly have totake the focus off of us and
put the focus on him.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I'm just going to read all of this right here.
It ain't about you.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
That's an impossible statement for us to really grab
a hold of.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I know people don't think about.
When it comes to this.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Also just anyone listening.
Take that tough one to heartright there.
It ain't about you.
It ain't about you.
This life ain't about you.
Your relationship's not aboutyou.
Your marriage, your job none ofthis stuff is about you.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
People don't necessarily see, or maybe people
who are on the worship team do.
But if you're not in a leadingposition or you just like the
music that is on a Sunday, youdon't think about things as
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being intentional with worship.
Kick your worship level up to10.
The Bible doesn't tell us to beabout fear and depression.
You can't worship if you'reworried or you have any kind of
anxiety, or you have any kind ofanxiety If you can't worship.
(15:55):
Well, you can't worship If youare worried about what people
think of you and what you looklike.
And if you stay worried, youain't using the power of praise.
That is a way to lead Someone.
Necessarily, because you'releading people is saying what
(16:18):
are you doing to make the wayfor what was it?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Make.
Prepare the way for the Lord.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
So I see this in worship, and maybe this is the
only way I can break it down ina sense, because with worship I
learned that there are threetypes of people when it comes to
worship.
There's are three differentelements and, um, the first one
(16:50):
is a prophetic worship, when youhave the spirit of prophecy the
right thing at the right time,just something that everybody
needs and then you have priestlyworship.
Are those people who worshipGod first?
They have the vertical worship.
They don't have the horizontalworship.
(17:12):
Are you doing this?
Because all the people that arehere watching you do this?
Those aren't those people.
They have the vertical worship.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
That's straight to God, our worship is for an
audience of one.
Yes, that's it.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
It's me and God.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
And I'm trying really hard to push that towards our
son, to let him know that it isokay, even when he's in there
with me.
I'm worshiping big.
Now I will see his hands, youknow, right here at times, and
then if anybody's close around,he doesn't want people to see.
No, he's not the center ofattention guy and I get that.
(17:52):
But what I'm praying over himis that he knows that it's just
between him and God.
What everybody else around doesnot matter.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
No, you're worshiping for one and one only you're
worshiping for one and one only.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
It says there will always be people with a
horizontal worship and they needthat to get across that to the
ministry.
They need to be on thatplatform, but that is not
necessarily a person who isactually leading.
That's a me moment, this, andif you have those people on the
worship team, you can absolutelysee that.
(18:27):
But a vertical worship isalways greater.
Now the third one is a kinglyworship.
This is the person who isfilled with the Holy Spirit who
raises everyone up in worshipand they push others forward and
knowing that they will dogreater things than you could
(18:48):
ever do.
It's.
They are the ones that you justknow.
You can look at someone that'son the platform and there's one
person that comes to mind morethan any other person, and I
know a lot of people in ourworship team and I don't want
anyone to get offended, but ourfriend, angela Schaefer, just
screams kingly worship In everyway possible.
(19:13):
Everything that she does, evenher hugs, are magical.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And I don't like people hugging me.
When I watch her worship,especially on the platform, it
seems it's a hey, I'm about togo worship god, I'm grabbing all
y'all, y'all coming with me.
Let's go.
You know, every single one ofyou.
Come on, jump on my back.
I'm carrying every one of youwith me.
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I I totally agree with that we have been on the
platform together, side by side,before, and we I said y'all got
in trouble, didn't?
You.
We've gotten trouble.
Y'all can't be together.
Y'all gonna be separated butsince that last time we have not
been on worship together.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I was just, I think y'all even like, gave each other
a high five in the middle yes,jesus, we were not staying in
our light.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
We were supposed to stay in there, you know and
you're in your little area like,after that first experience,
they came up to us and go okay,you see these, it's okay this
way, but not this way.
But that right, there waskingly worship.
That was us leading full hearts, all on god for that vertical
worship nobody else mattered,and that's when you explain that
(20:25):
.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
that's what I see for .
Prepare the way for the Lord,make straight in the desert a
highway for our God so God canreach everyone else, especially
in our own lives.
The way I take this and kind ofwhat I've been wrestling with
with it is am I creating a pathin my life and how I lead my
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life for anyone who comes incontact with me at all, for
Jesus to have access?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Well, I'll be honest.
You've read this to me multipletimes before we came down to do
the podcast yeah, probably adozen times in the last hour but
when you read it for thelisteners, it also hit me in a
different way, besides worshipokay read the first part of it,
(21:21):
like the first half of it avoice of one calling, calling in
the wilderness.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Prepare the way for the Lord.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
There.
When you read that, when yousaid wilderness, what's a
wilderness?
Places that are untouched,Places that most people have
never been or been a part ofit's.
Nobody knows what's going onthere.
My first thought when you saidthat was holy crap, that's me.
(21:54):
That's exactly what I do when Ifeel like, or it's what I feel
like when I walk into the hallsof a high school.
That's a wilderness Becausewe've removed God from all the
schools.
There's no church and school.
When we removed all of that, weremoved corporal punishment,
(22:14):
We've removed all of thesethings and the schools continue
to get worse.
That should be your first sign.
Hey, that is a wilderness.
Nobody wants to go there.
It's full of things that wedon't know.
We are scared to conquer it.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Well, if it's a wilderness, it's the unknown.
Yeah, and we're terrified ofthe unknown, nobody wants to
deal with it.
No one wants to be the first manin.
You go and then I'll follow.
And maybe that's where a lot ofthis has come from, because,
again, it's always been the, thetalk, and what we've always
been taught is the lord willprepare the way and then you
(22:54):
follow.
And I think we're morecomfortable with okay, god, you
go first, and once you, once youclear everything out and scare
all the bad guys away, make surethe path is clear, then then
I'll walk through that.
But this is saying, hey, in thewilderness, which I love your
explanation of it, thewilderness is the untouched, the
unknown, the places where Godhas not been reached yet, the
(23:17):
people he hasn't come in contactwith yet.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Feels like what our backyard is right now.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah, the people who are so far separated from him.
Hey, you powers, you whoever'slistening.
You have a better opportunityto prepare the way in the
wilderness than I would bymyself.
Because of the relationshipsthat you may have with these
people or some sort of influenceyou may have with these people.
I will never be let in.
(23:42):
But if you go and you preparethe way for me, watch what I can
do.
Yeah, I'm preparing the way foryou.
I've got you covered.
I've won the war.
You got nothing to worry about.
I'm going to protect you.
It's going to be hard, but ifyou go into this untouched area,
because you're more likely toget there than I am, you do that
.
Watch what I can do from there.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Maybe that helps you out just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Maybe it does a little bit, but it still makes
me think okay.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Are you doing enough?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Time to reflect.
What am I actually doing tomake sure that I can prepare the
way?
Or am I sitting back saying,okay, God, you go and I'll
follow?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Maybe we need to do a new end of the year tradition
type of thing For us.
I always put together a videoof all the things we got to do
this year.
It's a I don't know three orfour minute of pictures and
slides and little videos of allthe things we get to do that are
fun to outweigh all the badthings.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Because the bad things don't make it and the bad
things are there.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
don't let anyone think that they're not there.
2024 was a hard year for us.
Yeah, and guess what?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
maybe 2025 will be at some time too, it's never going
to change.
But that's the enemy coming in,because we are in the
wilderness, leading even when wedon't know it and yeah, and I I
agree with that, and maybe thisdoes help me a little bit and
(25:18):
just makes me want to think okay, what more?
What more do I need to do tomake sure that I'm that, that
I'm doing this, that I'mpreparing the way?
Maybe we need to do to makesure that I'm doing this, that
I'm preparing the way.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Maybe we need to make a list of things that we know,
because how often do we do that?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Not often I need to go prepare the way.
So how do I do that?
It boils down to it's not aboutme, Less of me, more of him,
Trusting in him that hey, thiswilderness looks scary and this
is untouched, and I don't knowwhat's going to happen here.
But I'm not going to be afraidbecause I know God, you already
(25:57):
won the war, it's over, Victoryis yours.
You tell us you're coming back.
You tell us you got our back.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Has he ever let me down before?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
No, and he's never gonna.
So why would I be led tobelieve that he's gonna do it
this time?
Go into the wilderness, preparethe way for the lord, because
that is how we make heaven abigger place yep okay, hopefully
that was helpful for somebody.
It was helpful for me at least.
I least I've been wrestlingwith that for a month, like what
am I doing anywhere near enoughto do what God needs me to do,
(26:33):
or am I just sitting back ridinghis coattails?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Maybe it's time for you to go on that mission trip.
I've been begging you to go onfor years.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Boy oh boy.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Come into the wilderness with me.
Powers.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
We better close this out.
Close out 2024.
Any final thoughts for 2024?
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Do we keep going in 2025?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
If God wants it, he will make a way.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Numbers have been screaming at us.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Hopefully this helps people, hopefully people
continue to listen, but mostlyhopefully people are able to see
Jesus through this Some way,somehow.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Not us.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
And just get closer to him, Because if you're going
to take any of this away fromhow to work it into your
relationship more of your spouse, less of you.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
It's not about you.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
If anything.
I know we haven't been touchinghard on marriages, particularly
over the last few weeks, maybeeven more so episodes, but I
think all this really pertainsto create a better relationship
with your spouse.
If we take these principles andwe move forward, Goodbye 2024.
(27:48):
Hello 2025.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
That's about the only thing I'm going to say goodbye
to.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Goodbye 2024.
It's gone.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
It'll never come back , because I always say goodbye
is forever and you can't go back.
No, we can't.
Goodbye 2024.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Until Doc Brown shows up with that Delorean.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I won't go back.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
We're all set.
No, alright, let's be done.
Okay, god, we love you.
God, we are thankful for allthat you do.
We're thankful for thisplatform, we're thankful for
another year and we're lookingforward to the next year.
Our prayer, as always, is thiswill reach the ears that need to
hear it, today's word from you,god.
I hope it helps somebody, hopesomeone is able to understand
(28:27):
what that means and can go alittle bit further in their walk
with you, and maybe they canprepare a way for you.
I know it did a lot for me.
Hopefully it did for someoneelse.
God, we're just so thankful forwhat you do.
We do not deserve it, we cannotearn it, but boy, are we ever,
ever, gracious and grateful foryou.
We love you and we thank you inJesus' name.
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