June 4, 2024 • 33 mins
Are men becoming obsolete? This provocative question fuels our heated debate on gender roles and societal perceptions. Using a clip from “The View,” we dissect various opinions on the value of men and women in modern society. We examine how both genders excel in different ways, making each indispensable. Our conversation covers societal expectations, marital dynamics, and the indispensable role of community and friendships in sustaining long-term relationships.
Imagine a world without men—what would happen? We explore this hypothetical scenario, assessing the impact on industries, population, and societal structures. Our discussion highlights the unsustainable nature of a male-less world, touching on declining birth rates and the role of AI and automation. Joy shares personal experiences with marriage, emphasizing the importance of mutual respect. We wrap up with a heartfelt prayer for strong, fulfilling relationships and a nod to our shared love for sports. Don't miss this blend of serious discussion, humor, and a sprinkle of Bible fun!
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
here's a question for you is marriage overrated?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
why aren't people getting married anymore?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
a new pew research poll found that two and five
young adults think marriage isan outdated tradition marriage
rates are at their lowest rightnow.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Is marriage really even worth it?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
more than half of marriages end in divorce.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
If you get married, you have to be stuck with this
person for the rest of your life, right?
That's why you get married.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
So that's why it's declining.
Why would you get married ifyou?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
don't if you want to have just one partner when you
can have multiple.
Speaker 6 (00:36):
Marriage is stupid.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Welcome to the Married AF podcast, the
self-proclaimed greatestmarriage and relationship
podcast in the world.
We are your hosts, matthew andMonica Powers.
Back how you doing baby.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Why do you say that we're back?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Because we're back.
We've done this before andwe're here again, so therefore
we are back.
Unless someone's listening forthe very first time, then
welcome for the first timer whohas never heard of us or
listened to us before.
But we thank you for being here.
Hopefully you find some valueand comedy and laughter and all
that fun stuff out of all ofthis.
(01:14):
I got one for you today thatyou're going to love.
I've already kind of told you alittle bit about what it is but
I'm listening to a clip.
You're listening to a clip andwe'll get to it whenever we get
a little closer to it.
But thank you to everyone who'slistening, who's watching, who
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does all of the things.
We love you and we are thankfulfor it.
Two things real quick before wejump in, because there's a
whole lot to get to today and wedon't want to run like an hour
and a half.
We're trying to keep it a clean30 minutes and get up on out of
here.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
All right.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
First, little Red Sox talk.
Red Sox stink.
They're depressing.
Enough of the Red Sox talk GenZ Bible time.
I can't talk about them.
They make me so sad.
We're in acts, chapter 16, andthis is where paul and silas are
just cruising doing their thing.
They cast out, uh, the demonfrom the girl.
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They get thrown in jail.
It's where they're.
You're praying middle of thenight.
You know the the earthquake.
Well, we'll start in verse 18.
This is the girl.
She kept at it for days and Paulwas getting ticked off.
He turned to the spirit and waslike yo, in the name of Jesus
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Christ, get out of her.
And the spirit bouncedimmediately.
When her bosses saw that theirmoney-making scheme went down
the drain, they grabbed Paul andSilas and dragged them to the
marketplace, straight to therulers.
They were like these Jews arecausing so much trouble in our
city, man.
They accused them of teachingcustoms that were against Roman
law, which we, as Romans, couldnot accept or follow.
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The crowd got all worked up andthe rulers got pissed off, tore
their clothes and ordered themto be beaten.
They whipped the crap out ofPaul and Silas and tossed them
into the prison, commanding thejailer to keep them locked up
tight.
The jailer followed orders,shoved them into the inner
prison and secured their feet instocks.
It was midnight and Paul Makesure you get the socks.
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Stocks, not socks Okay.
Speaker 7 (03:18):
I thought you said socks, socks are important.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
What is this, mr Deeds?
That is that who?
The jailer is?
Sneaky, sneaky.
It was midnight and paul andsilas were praying and jamming
out to god singing praises.
The other prisoners werelistening and suddenly a massive
earthquake hit, shaking thewhole prison to its core.
All the doors flew open andeveryone's shackles fell off.
The jailer woke up and saw theopen doors freaked out and
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pulled out a sword, thinking theprisoners escaped, and he was
ready to off himself.
But Paul shouted at him hold up, don't do anything crazy.
We are all still here.
The jailer called out for alight, rushed in trembling like
crazy and fell down before Pauland Silas.
He brought them out and askedyo sirs, what do I gotta do to
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be saved?
That's a good one.
Them socks, them socks.
Man, you gotta watch out forthem socks.
What do you think?
Speaker 5 (04:12):
pretty dead on yeah, it was really relatively good.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
They whipped the crap out of paul and the real was
ready to off himself right then.
Right there, ready to go.
I, I, I could feel yourlaughter.
I wasn't even looking at you, Icould feel your laughter.
I wasn't even looking at you,but I could feel your laughter
coming at me.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I was excited that the Bible said pissed.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
It did say pissed and whipped the crap out of, which
is always great.
So let's get into today.
Um, there's this idea, andwe've touched on it occasionally
, every now and again.
But this whole idea of men andwomen being equal and that we
are the same and we know we arenot the same that's what makes
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men and women awesome in theirown right is because we're not
the same.
But just there's been more ofthis idea coming around that men
really aren't needed anymore,that women can do everything a
man can do, and we've been hardon this stance that there are
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things that men are far betterat than women, and there are
things women are far better atthan men.
I mean, when God created Adam,what did he say?
It's not good, it's straight uplike not good, like just can't
have man roaming around doinghis own thing, cause men can be
dumb sometimes and we can dodumb things sometimes.
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And he made Eve the helper.
But there's this idea goingaround that men are useless and
no longer needed.
So I've got a clip that I'mgoing to play.
It's a little longer than Iwould like, but we need the
whole clip to be able to fullygrasp what's going on.
And then I'm going to reallykind of go through a breakdown
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of what this whole idea of menare useless and are not needed
could perhaps really look like.
So bear with me for just asecond.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
It's a little thing, I have to be quiet.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
You're going to have to be quiet, you're going to
have to hold in everythingthat's going on.
You can get some paper, you cantake some notes, that's
perfectly fine.
But this clip is fromeveryone's favorite show daytime
television.
Show daytime television theview oh jesus, it's four minutes
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long, but you, you, just you.
You need it to be able to graspthe entire thing.
So go ahead and listen to this.
Do we need men?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
most answered very quickly no, and only one said
she thought women needed a manin their lives, only one.
But when men were asked asimilar question do we need
women?
Most of them said yes.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
So why do you think that is because men are useless
and, by the way, I wanted, Iwant to differentiate between
straight men and gay men,because I think I would die
without gay men.
Nobody Nobody can gossip likegay men, nobody can help you
accessorize like gay men, nobodycan help you from keep you from
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doing harm to yourself like gaymen.
But with the exception ofsomebody like Steve.
I think Steve is veryself-sufficient.
That's Joy's husband, he is myhusband.
It takes a village of women tomake sure that he's not
emaciated, starving and livingin his own filth.
He can, you know, yeah, but youguys feel you guys are married
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to people that are more.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I have handy Manny at home.
He fixes everything.
When things go bump in thenight, he's the one that goes
downstairs.
When there's a bug to beexterminated, he does the
extermination Nope.
When there is something to beexterminated, he does the
extermination no.
When there is something to befixed, he fixes it.
He throws out the trash and hethrows out the recyclables.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I enjoy all the man stuff so my wait a second, I
know what you're gonna say.
She's really talking about aservant.
Let's face it.
No, it's a handyman she'stalking about a handyman.
It's a handyman with benefits.
We do not well, but the thingsthat you're describing, you
could pay somebody to do that.
We're not talking about that.
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What about the inner life of aman?
That's?
Speaker 7 (08:11):
what this is about.
I need my man three to fourtimes a week and then the rest
of the time I need a wife,because I've always said that
Everyone needs a wife.
No, I teased Vicky, my producer, in the morning.
I was like if you'd like tojoin Max and I not in that way,
but like Vicky and I could killit as household runners Like we
would be laughing, giggling,doing all the things and Max
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would be so psyched I waswasting all my words somewhere
else anyway.
So it would be a perfect combo.
And the other day Caleb said tome this is my youngest son.
He said Mama, I want a sparemom and I didn't know what he
meant.
And he's like.
He said Genevieve has a sparemom and I realized the parents
were divorced.
No, a divorced an extra mom,like two moms.
And so I asked him, because atfirst I was a little wounded.
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I was like what am I not doing?
And he's like no, I just thinkat bedtime you have to pay
attention to the other kids too.
And if we had a spare mom, youdad and you could, you know,
then you just get a focus on me.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And it was so sweet he didn't ask for a spare dad,
by the way I took this totallydifferently in how I prepped
because, broadly speaking, Ifeel like men have proven
largely useless, like, I think,in the political moment, the
people who are saying what needsto be said in my party, it's
all women.
The very few men, with theexception of of Mike Pence and a
few others, are saying whatthey need to.
But in life I need my husband.
(09:27):
I don't know if I need anyother men, but he is
irreplaceable.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, I think so, but that's the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
We like our husbands.
We just don't need men beyondthat.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Yeah wait till you're married 20 years and you'll see
how replaced they are.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I think that the reason, the reason women can
stay married for as long as theydo, is because they have a lot
of girlfriends.
They have a village, they havegirlfriends.
Because I always have toinitiate the conversations,
he'll step up, but I have tostart them.
I thought you were going to sayinitiate.
I just told you guys.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
I have eight girlfriends from Panama here who
are girlfriends for 50 years,since they were in kindergarten.
Oh I love that.
And they were saying yesterdaythat they've gone through
divorces, they've gone throughchallenges and having that
village of women has made itpossible for them, but we are
more collaborative than men.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I think there have been studies that say that women
have much closer friendshiprelationships than men do.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Again, I think we have to make a difference,
differentiate gay men.
No, gay men are in their owncategory.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, but we're not married to gay men, okay, oh,
but women have conversationsabout their feelings.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Men talk about sports cars, all that stuff, I don't
know.
My husband talks about hisfeelings with his friends.
Maybe he's gay.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
All right, now breathe for just a minute,
because I know you're writing,you're still taking notes,
you're losing your mind withthis whole clip.
But I've got ideas, I've gotsituations, I've got things to
walk through.
But I just kind of want to getyour knee-jerk initial reaction
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of this idea.
Men are useless.
We don't need them.
Breathe, take a deep breath.
Initial thoughts.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
The fact that millions of women watch this
piece of garbage show to beginwith breaks my heart my heart.
If you're getting your advicefrom unhappy women who are
putting down their husbands onnational television and they're
willing to do that, that's notsomething you need to be
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watching.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
The only good men are gay men, apparently apparently,
especially according to the,the I don't know who the, who
the woman was I don't know anyof those people's names uh joy
behar was the main one she's theone who asked the question.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
That's the only one I remember the only reason I know
her name is because of thehangover oh yeah, see, I was
thinking I know her name becauseof uh longest yard.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
The prisoner who loved joy behar, love watching
the jv on joe that was.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
That's all I know.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Alan and his bag.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Yes, she wears a bag Apparently.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I know nothing about her.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
I get it I don't even know what she looks like, where
to start.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Start from the top.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
I would die without gay men.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
This is the same woman that said her wait till
you've been married 20 yearsalso the same.
I have that written down alsothe same woman who said my
husband needs a village of women, uh, otherwise make sure he's
not living in his filth and bed.
Yeah, um, her poor husband.
Like she just went on nationaltelevision in front of you,
right, millions of people, andbasically said my husband's
worthless without me.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
There was only one person on there that talks great
about her husband.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Right.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
And then she's talking about how great he is
and he does all the things.
If something goes bump in thenine, he's there.
If something needs to be fixed,it's done.
And people started clappinglike, yeah, I need my husband, I
love my husband, with not evena second to spare.
They're hounding her.
Oh, that's just a handyman, youdon't really need him.
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He's just blah, blah, blah,blah.
Instant negativity.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Right.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Is this the same?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
uh, no, that was a different woman, but the woman
who said her husband wasirreplaceable the only two
positive things I got out wellshe hired her.
She said her husband'sirreplaceable.
But she began by saying I thinkmen have proven themselves by
and large useless.
Well, that was the same woman.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
She's good with her husband, but every other man
stinks and doesn't has nopurpose in being around well,
we've said this plenty of timesmen and women are not supposed
to be friends outside ofmarriage that you're not wrong.
So if you have a brother, fine,your father, fine.
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Are they forgetting about thosepeople?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
well, not even just necessarily those people, but
this whole idea.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
What if you have a son?
Well, this whole idea they'regoing to be someone's husband
one day.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
That men are purely useless is crazy.
Men are needed, women areneeded.
We are both clearly needed.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Well, obviously one of the women need an extra mommy
.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
She does.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
I don't care what they said, it's not a stepmom,
it's a n.
We are both clearly needed.
Well, obviously one of thewomen need an extra mommy.
She does, I don't care whatthey said, it's not a stepmom,
it's a nanny.
Anyone on those type of showsthat have those friends?
Everybody got a nanny becauseyou are only friends with
somebody because of the socialstatus and money.
Your son needs your attention.
He wants another mom becauseyou have way too much going on
in your life to give him theattention he needs.
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You'd rather be on tv bashingyour husband when in reality,
you just put your own self in agrave because your son needs
another nanny.
He didn't ask for another dad,he didn't.
He wants a second mom or abonus mom.
You're right.
He should only need one mom.
If you were doing your job, hewouldn't ask for another one.
So, women being useless hmm,maybe that needs to be the topic
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of.
Men are useless.
No, women, what are you doing?
Sitting right there talkingnothing good about your husband,
except maybe two people, butyou're guilty by association.
So these women that are hangingout with these dummies?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
useless.
Well, another thing is the pureapplause of yeah, man, I'm
buying a large useless.
Yeah, my husband can't doanything without women around.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
It's just completely, completely missing the mark,
wait till 20 years, that'llchange.
That was when the woman saidher husband is irreplaceable.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Irreplaceable.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
But then she goes on, that same woman that said the
20 years.
She also goes on to say and Ihave to start the conversation.
Yep, and I've got he'll he'll Iinitiate it and he'll start
talking back.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
but and I will.
I got some notes.
I'll get to that in just asecond.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
So men talk about nothing but sports, nothing else
.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
I've got, got, I've just told you hold slow your
roll for that one.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I got something for that all right, so so I went
down this this should havegotten me.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
I went down this, I tried.
You said pressure is high yousaid, nope, I just want to hear
it and I want to, I want toreact to it the very first time.
So I went down a rabbit holewith this idea, because this
whole segment on the view camefrom a trend where people are
just asking people out in thewild.
Yeah, this was like a month ago.
What, asking people out in thewild like hey, do you need a man
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?
Do you need to be asking?
And all the women like no, no,no, no, no.
And that's kind of where theconversation started that one of
the 12 said that that theyneeded that they did.
Only one of the 12 said thatthey needed that they did.
Only one of the 12 said thatthey needed a man.
Just one of the 12.
All the other ones said no, Idon't need a man whatsoever.
So let's just let's look at thisin a very granular level.
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Let's look at it for what it'ssaying Men are useless and we
don't need men.
So what would the world looklike if that happened?
I did some research here's kindof the idea of this men are
useless thing.
The first thing that we'regoing to see happen is there are
going to be complete social andcultural shifts on what humans
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are supposed to be.
You eliminate men from thepicture completely.
Women take the role ofeverything.
Social norms are gone,traditional families are gone.
All the things that we've allknown are going to completely
begin to disappear.
You're going to start to seelabor shortages.
Why?
Because there's a lot of jobsin the world that we must have
that the high, high majority ofonly men are able and willing to
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do that job.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
Here's some examples of that.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
All fields in the engineering world are strictly
men.
The armed forces, policeservices 87% of all policemen
are men.
Firefighters 92%.
The construction industry 98%are all men.
Oil workers 99%.
Mining and quarry workers 99%.
Steel workers, politicians,agriculture, pilots, forestry
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mechanics, HVAC, electricalappliances, plumbing,
landscaping, computerprogramming, engineers all of
that is high majority men.
So let's eliminate men from theworld.
Those jobs are things that aregoing to be have to be taken by
women.
Okay, Can women do some ofthose jobs?
Absolutely, they can taketraining, take a lot of work.
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It's not easy, it's very risky,Um, it can be very dangerous,
but women could eventually takeon those jobs.
Are there enough women toactually go on and take those
jobs and accept those jobs andexcel at those jobs to be able
to make it?
The answer is no.
So what's that's going to do?
Is it's going to rely onhumanity, which is strictly
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mostly women?
Now, if we go down this idea,it's going to be mostly
automated and AI generated tofill in the labor gaps, because
there's going to be a hugeamount of labor gaps.
You know, the cars that wedrive, the phones we use, the
computers we use, all the thingsthat we're used to on a
day-to-day basis are going tocease to exist.
You're going to see medicalissues.
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You're going to see mentalhealth issues.
You're going to see all sortsof problems.
There's going to be instabilitythroughout the world
geopolitical instability,resource management, logistics
all of that is going to go away.
This is something that's notsustainable.
But let's not forget the mostimportant part of all this there
will be a decline in population.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Clearly, you eliminate anybody else coming in
this world you eliminate menfrom the picture.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yes, there's going to be a decline in the population.
Now it says sperm banks, ofcourse, would be huge.
That's how women would helppopulate the earth would be
through sperm banks.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Well, you've got to get rid of men.
You've got to get rid of that.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
No, no, but there are some built up.
There's all sorts oftechnologies.
I said something else thatwould have to be done.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
So if they have boys, do they kill them?
Are we just a woman-only nation?
Speaker 4 (20:19):
They would just eventually all begin to die off.
So here's kind of what we wouldbe looking at.
This idea of cloning would haveto be something that would come
to fruition to be able to dothat.
So what we would initially looklike in years 1 through 10, if
we just eliminated men from thepicture completely.
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Sperm banks and IVF treatmentwould sustain some level of
reproduction, but it's notsomething that is long-term
sustainable.
We would be looking at adecrease in population over the
years.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Which would not be bad for the world.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
but and some things, maybe Nothing would be able to
be stabilized.
Yes, some manufacturing wouldbe stabilized, some engineering,
mechanical processes, some ofthat would get stabilized, but
again, it's not sustainable.
So estimation if we were toeliminate men from the planet
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completely by year 50, we wouldhave a decline in population
down to about 4 billion people.
There's currently about 8billion people on earth.
At year 100, if we continuedown this, even with advanced
technologies, even if thecloning process were something
that was able to be done andwork, where women are able to
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reproduce and continue topopulate the world without men
decreased in population, we lookdown to about 1.5 billion.
If this continued this idea thatmen are useless and men are not
needed and we are justcompletely wasteful beings by
300 years we will be looking atthe extinct extinction of
humanity across the world.
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Men are useless.
Here's why this is fascinating.
Here's why this is also scary.
Article in April of 2024 in thewall street journal.
Also, this is done by the CDC.
I've seen declining birth ratesacross the world since 2007 and
2023.
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It reached a record low of 1.62, being the birth weight.
This is 1.62.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Weight or rate Rate.
Birth rate R-A-T-E yes.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
The amount of births per woman is down to 1.62 as of
2023.
It is estimated that forpopulation to be sustainable
they call it the replacementrate has to be at 2.1 to be able
to sustain population for thelong term.
We are below that now.
It was nearly four births perwoman in the 1960s.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Yeah well people then would have kids to help with
all the load of work, becausemost people were on farms it is,
but this is why it's scary.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
We're below the 2.1 rate for the first time since
1970, which just was a one-yearthing, and then it climbed right
back up.
This is something that's beencontinuing to trend over the
last decade or so, so well, withabortions being millions per
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year, and that's part of whythis rate has gone down so much,
because now this idea ofabortion is used as a firm of
birth, birth control right, butnow that's been reversed yes and
it's not supposed to be a thingunless it's like a medical
emergency situation, correct.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Some states have completely banned it.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
That should increase it should because people can't
not have sex with each otherthat is true, but here's the
scary part of it is one yes,people are still going to have
sex with each other.
That seems to be dwindling inresearch that some people aren't
having sex.
Not as much as they used to.
Why?
Because we're so stuck on ourphones and our entertainment and
our TVs and our computers andthis social life where we're not
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actually seeking real physical,intimate.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
No, because everybody's watching too much
porn.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Well, yes, that is absolutely part of it because
that's gonna get you where youneed to be and this idea of
artificial intelligence, whereartificial intelligence, these
ai humans, so to speak, arereplacing real physical
relationships with people.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
It's like I robots I'm done all over, I'm done, I
know.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I know you're just, you're finished, you're done.
So I say all this to say this Ithe view, I have such a hard
time and I struggle to believethat they all truly believe that
men are purely useless.
I know this was more of a hey,how can we get some, some
attention?
Speaker 5 (24:47):
How can we get some ratings?
Let's say something stupid, sopeople will watch.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Exactly how can we get some attention our way, good
or bad, people will watch.
Exactly how can we get someattention our way, good or bad
but you know how can we becontroversial to drive eyeballs
to our tv and get more clicksand more people to look at this?
I have to believe that's,that's the intent of it, but I
do believe there's thisunderlying tone where people
believe yeah, you know, wereally don't need men anymore
well, joy bayharsal, blah, blah,blah, blah, it too.
(25:12):
Yeah, I think that's a scarything.
And again, this whole idea ofthe timeline and the people and
extinction.
We're nowhere near that, but ifwe really got rid of man
completely, that's somethingthat we could possibly see.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
I'm not sure if they're believers.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
I mean everybody wants to say they believe in God
.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
But what God do they believe in?
Speaker 4 (25:37):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
What God do they pray to?
And if they do believe that menare useless, do they believe
God's a woman?
Speaker 4 (25:52):
I have seen where there are people who, yes, they
believe God.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
That one show we watched, where she thought she
was mother God.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Yes, well, there are people who believe one God's a
woman.
There's also some who believeGod is a.
They them and that whole thing,which is that's something I
don't even want to think abouttoday.
Yeah, so the last point that Iwant to bring up and it's
something that you brought uptoo where, towards the end of
(26:19):
the conversation on the View washaving to initiate the
conversation and all men cantalk about, are sports and cars,
and I have a reason to believewhy that might be the case.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Maybe that's just the men that they know.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
One.
Maybe it's the men that theyknow.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
How old are these people?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
They're probably in their 40s to 50s, maybe I really
don't know.
But I believe that the reasonthat I've got to look it up now,
go ahead.
That's the only thing that theywill say no, and the only
things I have conversationsabout is one because men have
been told well, you're notallowed to have feelings, you
(26:59):
can't be vulnerable.
You know the cultural norm is,as Ben, you know, it's just suck
it up.
You know, just get over it,just suck it up.
That's, that's just going to bethe way that.
It is the reason I think morepeople have these conversations
that with with men or with theirhusbands or whoever that can't
seem like they can get in anydepth with, I think is mostly
(27:23):
because there was a point intime where that man whether it
was with you or with someoneelse did truly let the guard
down and they did truly open upand they were truly vulnerable
and they were shouted down withit.
They were told I'll suck it up,you shouldn't feel that way.
They let the guard down andthey let someone in on something
(27:45):
they're going through that isdeep and serious and they really
want to be able to get it out.
And then somehow that wasturned around and it was used
against them in some way, and Ithink that's one of the reasons
men don't want to have thesein-depth conversations.
I think that's why, wheneveryou have a conversation with a
guy sometimes and you really tryto, you know, hey, what's going
(28:05):
on, how you doing, you'll justget the fine women do the same
thing they do.
But I think men by and large arejust like now everything's fine
, it's good.
It's good because there wasthat one time where they said
something a little bit more indepth and it was somehow taken
out of context, it was somehowtwisted or used against them in
a future argument or something,and when that happens the man is
(28:28):
going to say never again youwant me to tell you the ages of
these people?
How old?
Speaker 5 (28:36):
as of august 2023.
One, the joy behar I may evensay her name right is 80, she's
80 she looks great for 80 Idon't know what she looks like.
Then there's one that's 45, 51,54, and 34.
How many?
Speaker 4 (28:56):
There's five of them.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
One, two, three, four , five.
Yeah, so there's one millennial34.
Her name Alyssa Griffin.
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Doesn't matter either way.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
No, I'm looking at it , I'm saying it but one is 45,
so she's closer to our age andthe other about 10 years older
than us yep I feel like we aremore, we relate more to the
(29:44):
generation above us.
I could see that, yeah, 34 yearold.
I don't know if that's the case.
I feel like I would be happy tobe a millennial than these old,
pissed off women who are madbecause their husbands are
useless.
No wonder, 80 years old, herhusband's still alive.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Well, I don't even necessarily think that.
I think their minds have beentwisted, that they don't need a
man.
Um, like I said before, we needeach other, you know.
That's the reason God createdEve was.
We're meant for relationship,we're not meant to do it alone.
We can think that we're all bigand bad and independent.
We don't need anybody, we don'tneed to lean on anybody ever,
(30:26):
but that's just not the case.
We need other people.
Whether we like it or not, weneed a partner in all this.
Whether we like it or not, weneed a partner in all this,
whether we like it or not, menneed women and women need men,
because all of the stuff that Italked about, about the you know
labor about the labor shortagesand all of that.
(30:47):
If we were to flip the scriptand we were to eliminate women,
the exact same thing wouldhappen.
Yeah, these, these other fieldsthat we need so badly, yeah,
they would be filled by men, butall the ones that the women are
so much better at than men,those would go away completely
too.
We would see the exact samething on both sides.
And my point is we just we needeach other, and wherever you
(31:07):
may be in your relationshipmaybe it's great, maybe it's
struggling, maybe you're seekingit Don't necessarily believe
what the world is telling you,because we badly need each other
.
We need the relationships.
We need people to be able tolean on at some point in time.
So I just I saw this when I waseating lunch this week.
(31:27):
When I was just checking thenews.
I was like this is one of thedumbest, most idiotic statements
I think I've ever heard thatmen are useless, men and women
are both not useless and we needeach other badly.
Any final thoughts before we go, cause we got to go.
Joy's on her second husband.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Okay, no wonder she mad.
She don't like men.
You didn't like, didn't do itright the first time, why'd?
Speaker 4 (31:51):
you get another one, I mean, hey, there's always
opportunity for, for a secondchance.
I think again, this is mostlyfor clicks and for entertainment
purposes and she's 81 but thereare a lot of people who will
truly believe this and, uh,that's disheartening, to say the
least.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
I mean, I guess you know, respect your elders.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Final thoughts baby she, whoever her plastic surgeon
is, does a great job.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Oh, she looks amazing for 80 something years old 81.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
All right Well that's all I got for you.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
I never knew what she looked like we got to go Good
for you, Joy.
Listen, men and women you arenot useless.
We badly need each other.
God, we love you.
We are so thankful for what youdo.
We are thankful that youcreated relationship, because we
so badly need them, and ourprayer is for anyone who ever
hears this to seek one the mostimportant relationship with you,
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because you are the one who weneed to be focused on, lay our
foundation for everything we doon and God just be able to bring
the relationships that we needin our lives, that are going to
make us better, and pointourselves towards you to be able
to find the fulfillment and thejoy that we need in our lives,
that are going to make us betterand point ourselves towards you
to be able to find thefulfillment and the joy that we
need in our lives.
We love you and we thank you inJesus name, amen.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Amen Play ball.
I like to talk sports, joy.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Bam.
here's a question for you is marriage overrated?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
why aren't people getting married anymore?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
a new pew research poll found that two and five
young adults think marriage isan outdated tradition marriage
rates are at their lowest rightnow.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Is marriage really even worth it?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
more than half of marriages end in divorce.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
If you get married, you have to be stuck with this
person for the rest of your life, right?
That's why you get married.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
So that's why it's declining.
Why would you get married ifyou?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
don't if you want to have just one partner when you
can have multiple.
Speaker 6 (00:36):
Marriage is stupid.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Welcome to the Married AF podcast, the
self-proclaimed greatestmarriage and relationship
podcast in the world.
We are your hosts, matthew andMonica Powers.
Back how you doing baby.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Why do you say that we're back?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Because we're back.
We've done this before andwe're here again, so therefore
we are back.
Unless someone's listening forthe very first time, then
welcome for the first timer whohas never heard of us or
listened to us before.
But we thank you for being here.
Hopefully you find some valueand comedy and laughter and all
that fun stuff out of all ofthis.
(01:14):
I got one for you today thatyou're going to love.
I've already kind of told you alittle bit about what it is but
I'm listening to a clip.
You're listening to a clip andwe'll get to it whenever we get
a little closer to it.
But thank you to everyone who'slistening, who's watching, who
(01:36):
does all of the things.
We love you and we are thankfulfor it.
Two things real quick before wejump in, because there's a
whole lot to get to today and wedon't want to run like an hour
and a half.
We're trying to keep it a clean30 minutes and get up on out of
here.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
All right.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
First, little Red Sox talk.
Red Sox stink.
They're depressing.
Enough of the Red Sox talk GenZ Bible time.
I can't talk about them.
They make me so sad.
We're in acts, chapter 16, andthis is where paul and silas are
just cruising doing their thing.
They cast out, uh, the demonfrom the girl.
(02:10):
They get thrown in jail.
It's where they're.
You're praying middle of thenight.
You know the the earthquake.
Well, we'll start in verse 18.
This is the girl.
She kept at it for days and Paulwas getting ticked off.
He turned to the spirit and waslike yo, in the name of Jesus
(02:32):
Christ, get out of her.
And the spirit bouncedimmediately.
When her bosses saw that theirmoney-making scheme went down
the drain, they grabbed Paul andSilas and dragged them to the
marketplace, straight to therulers.
They were like these Jews arecausing so much trouble in our
city, man.
They accused them of teachingcustoms that were against Roman
law, which we, as Romans, couldnot accept or follow.
(02:55):
The crowd got all worked up andthe rulers got pissed off, tore
their clothes and ordered themto be beaten.
They whipped the crap out ofPaul and Silas and tossed them
into the prison, commanding thejailer to keep them locked up
tight.
The jailer followed orders,shoved them into the inner
prison and secured their feet instocks.
It was midnight and Paul Makesure you get the socks.
(03:16):
Stocks, not socks Okay.
Speaker 7 (03:18):
I thought you said socks, socks are important.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
What is this, mr Deeds?
That is that who?
The jailer is?
Sneaky, sneaky.
It was midnight and paul andsilas were praying and jamming
out to god singing praises.
The other prisoners werelistening and suddenly a massive
earthquake hit, shaking thewhole prison to its core.
All the doors flew open andeveryone's shackles fell off.
The jailer woke up and saw theopen doors freaked out and
(03:42):
pulled out a sword, thinking theprisoners escaped, and he was
ready to off himself.
But Paul shouted at him hold up, don't do anything crazy.
We are all still here.
The jailer called out for alight, rushed in trembling like
crazy and fell down before Pauland Silas.
He brought them out and askedyo sirs, what do I gotta do to
(04:03):
be saved?
That's a good one.
Them socks, them socks.
Man, you gotta watch out forthem socks.
What do you think?
Speaker 5 (04:12):
pretty dead on yeah, it was really relatively good.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
They whipped the crap out of paul and the real was
ready to off himself right then.
Right there, ready to go.
I, I, I could feel yourlaughter.
I wasn't even looking at you, Icould feel your laughter.
I wasn't even looking at you,but I could feel your laughter
coming at me.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I was excited that the Bible said pissed.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
It did say pissed and whipped the crap out of, which
is always great.
So let's get into today.
Um, there's this idea, andwe've touched on it occasionally
, every now and again.
But this whole idea of men andwomen being equal and that we
are the same and we know we arenot the same that's what makes
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men and women awesome in theirown right is because we're not
the same.
But just there's been more ofthis idea coming around that men
really aren't needed anymore,that women can do everything a
man can do, and we've been hardon this stance that there are
(05:16):
things that men are far betterat than women, and there are
things women are far better atthan men.
I mean, when God created Adam,what did he say?
It's not good, it's straight uplike not good, like just can't
have man roaming around doinghis own thing, cause men can be
dumb sometimes and we can dodumb things sometimes.
(05:36):
And he made Eve the helper.
But there's this idea goingaround that men are useless and
no longer needed.
So I've got a clip that I'mgoing to play.
It's a little longer than Iwould like, but we need the
whole clip to be able to fullygrasp what's going on.
And then I'm going to reallykind of go through a breakdown
(05:59):
of what this whole idea of menare useless and are not needed
could perhaps really look like.
So bear with me for just asecond.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
It's a little thing, I have to be quiet.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
You're going to have to be quiet, you're going to
have to hold in everythingthat's going on.
You can get some paper, you cantake some notes, that's
perfectly fine.
But this clip is fromeveryone's favorite show daytime
television.
Show daytime television theview oh jesus, it's four minutes
(06:30):
long, but you, you, just you.
You need it to be able to graspthe entire thing.
So go ahead and listen to this.
Do we need men?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
most answered very quickly no, and only one said
she thought women needed a manin their lives, only one.
But when men were asked asimilar question do we need
women?
Most of them said yes.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
So why do you think that is because men are useless
and, by the way, I wanted, Iwant to differentiate between
straight men and gay men,because I think I would die
without gay men.
Nobody Nobody can gossip likegay men, nobody can help you
accessorize like gay men, nobodycan help you from keep you from
(07:10):
doing harm to yourself like gaymen.
But with the exception ofsomebody like Steve.
I think Steve is veryself-sufficient.
That's Joy's husband, he is myhusband.
It takes a village of women tomake sure that he's not
emaciated, starving and livingin his own filth.
He can, you know, yeah, but youguys feel you guys are married
(07:32):
to people that are more.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I have handy Manny at home.
He fixes everything.
When things go bump in thenight, he's the one that goes
downstairs.
When there's a bug to beexterminated, he does the
extermination Nope.
When there is something to beexterminated, he does the
extermination no.
When there is something to befixed, he fixes it.
He throws out the trash and hethrows out the recyclables.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I enjoy all the man stuff so my wait a second, I
know what you're gonna say.
She's really talking about aservant.
Let's face it.
No, it's a handyman she'stalking about a handyman.
It's a handyman with benefits.
We do not well, but the thingsthat you're describing, you
could pay somebody to do that.
We're not talking about that.
(08:09):
What about the inner life of aman?
That's?
Speaker 7 (08:11):
what this is about.
I need my man three to fourtimes a week and then the rest
of the time I need a wife,because I've always said that
Everyone needs a wife.
No, I teased Vicky, my producer, in the morning.
I was like if you'd like tojoin Max and I not in that way,
but like Vicky and I could killit as household runners Like we
would be laughing, giggling,doing all the things and Max
(08:34):
would be so psyched I waswasting all my words somewhere
else anyway.
So it would be a perfect combo.
And the other day Caleb said tome this is my youngest son.
He said Mama, I want a sparemom and I didn't know what he
meant.
And he's like.
He said Genevieve has a sparemom and I realized the parents
were divorced.
No, a divorced an extra mom,like two moms.
And so I asked him, because atfirst I was a little wounded.
(08:55):
I was like what am I not doing?
And he's like no, I just thinkat bedtime you have to pay
attention to the other kids too.
And if we had a spare mom, youdad and you could, you know,
then you just get a focus on me.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And it was so sweet he didn't ask for a spare dad,
by the way I took this totallydifferently in how I prepped
because, broadly speaking, Ifeel like men have proven
largely useless, like, I think,in the political moment, the
people who are saying what needsto be said in my party, it's
all women.
The very few men, with theexception of of Mike Pence and a
few others, are saying whatthey need to.
But in life I need my husband.
(09:27):
I don't know if I need anyother men, but he is
irreplaceable.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, I think so, but that's the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
We like our husbands.
We just don't need men beyondthat.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Yeah wait till you're married 20 years and you'll see
how replaced they are.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I think that the reason, the reason women can
stay married for as long as theydo, is because they have a lot
of girlfriends.
They have a village, they havegirlfriends.
Because I always have toinitiate the conversations,
he'll step up, but I have tostart them.
I thought you were going to sayinitiate.
I just told you guys.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
I have eight girlfriends from Panama here who
are girlfriends for 50 years,since they were in kindergarten.
Oh I love that.
And they were saying yesterdaythat they've gone through
divorces, they've gone throughchallenges and having that
village of women has made itpossible for them, but we are
more collaborative than men.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I think there have been studies that say that women
have much closer friendshiprelationships than men do.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Again, I think we have to make a difference,
differentiate gay men.
No, gay men are in their owncategory.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, but we're not married to gay men, okay, oh,
but women have conversationsabout their feelings.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Men talk about sports cars, all that stuff, I don't
know.
My husband talks about hisfeelings with his friends.
Maybe he's gay.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
All right, now breathe for just a minute,
because I know you're writing,you're still taking notes,
you're losing your mind withthis whole clip.
But I've got ideas, I've gotsituations, I've got things to
walk through.
But I just kind of want to getyour knee-jerk initial reaction
(10:56):
of this idea.
Men are useless.
We don't need them.
Breathe, take a deep breath.
Initial thoughts.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
The fact that millions of women watch this
piece of garbage show to beginwith breaks my heart my heart.
If you're getting your advicefrom unhappy women who are
putting down their husbands onnational television and they're
willing to do that, that's notsomething you need to be
(11:34):
watching.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
The only good men are gay men, apparently apparently,
especially according to the,the I don't know who the, who
the woman was I don't know anyof those people's names uh joy
behar was the main one she's theone who asked the question.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
That's the only one I remember the only reason I know
her name is because of thehangover oh yeah, see, I was
thinking I know her name becauseof uh longest yard.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
The prisoner who loved joy behar, love watching
the jv on joe that was.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
That's all I know.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Alan and his bag.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Yes, she wears a bag Apparently.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I know nothing about her.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
I get it I don't even know what she looks like, where
to start.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Start from the top.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
I would die without gay men.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
This is the same woman that said her wait till
you've been married 20 yearsalso the same.
I have that written down alsothe same woman who said my
husband needs a village of women, uh, otherwise make sure he's
not living in his filth and bed.
Yeah, um, her poor husband.
Like she just went on nationaltelevision in front of you,
right, millions of people, andbasically said my husband's
worthless without me.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
There was only one person on there that talks great
about her husband.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Right.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
And then she's talking about how great he is
and he does all the things.
If something goes bump in thenine, he's there.
If something needs to be fixed,it's done.
And people started clappinglike, yeah, I need my husband, I
love my husband, with not evena second to spare.
They're hounding her.
Oh, that's just a handyman, youdon't really need him.
(13:19):
He's just blah, blah, blah,blah.
Instant negativity.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Right.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Is this the same?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
uh, no, that was a different woman, but the woman
who said her husband wasirreplaceable the only two
positive things I got out wellshe hired her.
She said her husband'sirreplaceable.
But she began by saying I thinkmen have proven themselves by
and large useless.
Well, that was the same woman.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
She's good with her husband, but every other man
stinks and doesn't has nopurpose in being around well,
we've said this plenty of timesmen and women are not supposed
to be friends outside ofmarriage that you're not wrong.
So if you have a brother, fine,your father, fine.
(14:06):
Are they forgetting about thosepeople?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
well, not even just necessarily those people, but
this whole idea.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
What if you have a son?
Well, this whole idea they'regoing to be someone's husband
one day.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
That men are purely useless is crazy.
Men are needed, women areneeded.
We are both clearly needed.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Well, obviously one of the women need an extra mommy
.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
She does.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
I don't care what they said, it's not a stepmom,
it's a n.
We are both clearly needed.
Well, obviously one of thewomen need an extra mommy.
She does, I don't care whatthey said, it's not a stepmom,
it's a nanny.
Anyone on those type of showsthat have those friends?
Everybody got a nanny becauseyou are only friends with
somebody because of the socialstatus and money.
Your son needs your attention.
He wants another mom becauseyou have way too much going on
in your life to give him theattention he needs.
(14:54):
You'd rather be on tv bashingyour husband when in reality,
you just put your own self in agrave because your son needs
another nanny.
He didn't ask for another dad,he didn't.
He wants a second mom or abonus mom.
You're right.
He should only need one mom.
If you were doing your job, hewouldn't ask for another one.
So, women being useless hmm,maybe that needs to be the topic
(15:17):
of.
Men are useless.
No, women, what are you doing?
Sitting right there talkingnothing good about your husband,
except maybe two people, butyou're guilty by association.
So these women that are hangingout with these dummies?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
useless.
Well, another thing is the pureapplause of yeah, man, I'm
buying a large useless.
Yeah, my husband can't doanything without women around.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
It's just completely, completely missing the mark,
wait till 20 years, that'llchange.
That was when the woman saidher husband is irreplaceable.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Irreplaceable.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
But then she goes on, that same woman that said the
20 years.
She also goes on to say and Ihave to start the conversation.
Yep, and I've got he'll he'll Iinitiate it and he'll start
talking back.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
but and I will.
I got some notes.
I'll get to that in just asecond.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
So men talk about nothing but sports, nothing else
.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
I've got, got, I've just told you hold slow your
roll for that one.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I got something for that all right, so so I went
down this this should havegotten me.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
I went down this, I tried.
You said pressure is high yousaid, nope, I just want to hear
it and I want to, I want toreact to it the very first time.
So I went down a rabbit holewith this idea, because this
whole segment on the view camefrom a trend where people are
just asking people out in thewild.
Yeah, this was like a month ago.
What, asking people out in thewild like hey, do you need a man
(16:45):
?
Do you need to be asking?
And all the women like no, no,no, no, no.
And that's kind of where theconversation started that one of
the 12 said that that theyneeded that they did.
Only one of the 12 said thatthey needed that they did.
Only one of the 12 said thatthey needed a man.
Just one of the 12.
All the other ones said no, Idon't need a man whatsoever.
So let's just let's look at thisin a very granular level.
(17:07):
Let's look at it for what it'ssaying Men are useless and we
don't need men.
So what would the world looklike if that happened?
I did some research here's kindof the idea of this men are
useless thing.
The first thing that we'regoing to see happen is there are
going to be complete social andcultural shifts on what humans
(17:31):
are supposed to be.
You eliminate men from thepicture completely.
Women take the role ofeverything.
Social norms are gone,traditional families are gone.
All the things that we've allknown are going to completely
begin to disappear.
You're going to start to seelabor shortages.
Why?
Because there's a lot of jobsin the world that we must have
that the high, high majority ofonly men are able and willing to
(17:56):
do that job.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
Here's some examples of that.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
All fields in the engineering world are strictly
men.
The armed forces, policeservices 87% of all policemen
are men.
Firefighters 92%.
The construction industry 98%are all men.
Oil workers 99%.
Mining and quarry workers 99%.
Steel workers, politicians,agriculture, pilots, forestry
(18:22):
mechanics, HVAC, electricalappliances, plumbing,
landscaping, computerprogramming, engineers all of
that is high majority men.
So let's eliminate men from theworld.
Those jobs are things that aregoing to be have to be taken by
women.
Okay, Can women do some ofthose jobs?
Absolutely, they can taketraining, take a lot of work.
(18:43):
It's not easy, it's very risky,Um, it can be very dangerous,
but women could eventually takeon those jobs.
Are there enough women toactually go on and take those
jobs and accept those jobs andexcel at those jobs to be able
to make it?
The answer is no.
So what's that's going to do?
Is it's going to rely onhumanity, which is strictly
(19:06):
mostly women?
Now, if we go down this idea,it's going to be mostly
automated and AI generated tofill in the labor gaps, because
there's going to be a hugeamount of labor gaps.
You know, the cars that wedrive, the phones we use, the
computers we use, all the thingsthat we're used to on a
day-to-day basis are going tocease to exist.
You're going to see medicalissues.
(19:26):
You're going to see mentalhealth issues.
You're going to see all sortsof problems.
There's going to be instabilitythroughout the world
geopolitical instability,resource management, logistics
all of that is going to go away.
This is something that's notsustainable.
But let's not forget the mostimportant part of all this there
will be a decline in population.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Clearly, you eliminate anybody else coming in
this world you eliminate menfrom the picture.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yes, there's going to be a decline in the population.
Now it says sperm banks, ofcourse, would be huge.
That's how women would helppopulate the earth would be
through sperm banks.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Well, you've got to get rid of men.
You've got to get rid of that.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
No, no, but there are some built up.
There's all sorts oftechnologies.
I said something else thatwould have to be done.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
So if they have boys, do they kill them?
Are we just a woman-only nation?
Speaker 4 (20:19):
They would just eventually all begin to die off.
So here's kind of what we wouldbe looking at.
This idea of cloning would haveto be something that would come
to fruition to be able to dothat.
So what we would initially looklike in years 1 through 10, if
we just eliminated men from thepicture completely.
(20:39):
Sperm banks and IVF treatmentwould sustain some level of
reproduction, but it's notsomething that is long-term
sustainable.
We would be looking at adecrease in population over the
years.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Which would not be bad for the world.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
but and some things, maybe Nothing would be able to
be stabilized.
Yes, some manufacturing wouldbe stabilized, some engineering,
mechanical processes, some ofthat would get stabilized, but
again, it's not sustainable.
So estimation if we were toeliminate men from the planet
(21:10):
completely by year 50, we wouldhave a decline in population
down to about 4 billion people.
There's currently about 8billion people on earth.
At year 100, if we continuedown this, even with advanced
technologies, even if thecloning process were something
that was able to be done andwork, where women are able to
(21:32):
reproduce and continue topopulate the world without men
decreased in population, we lookdown to about 1.5 billion.
If this continued this idea thatmen are useless and men are not
needed and we are justcompletely wasteful beings by
300 years we will be looking atthe extinct extinction of
humanity across the world.
(21:53):
Men are useless.
Here's why this is fascinating.
Here's why this is also scary.
Article in April of 2024 in thewall street journal.
Also, this is done by the CDC.
I've seen declining birth ratesacross the world since 2007 and
2023.
(22:13):
It reached a record low of 1.62, being the birth weight.
This is 1.62.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Weight or rate Rate.
Birth rate R-A-T-E yes.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
The amount of births per woman is down to 1.62 as of
2023.
It is estimated that forpopulation to be sustainable
they call it the replacementrate has to be at 2.1 to be able
to sustain population for thelong term.
We are below that now.
It was nearly four births perwoman in the 1960s.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Yeah well people then would have kids to help with
all the load of work, becausemost people were on farms it is,
but this is why it's scary.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
We're below the 2.1 rate for the first time since
1970, which just was a one-yearthing, and then it climbed right
back up.
This is something that's beencontinuing to trend over the
last decade or so, so well, withabortions being millions per
(23:18):
year, and that's part of whythis rate has gone down so much,
because now this idea ofabortion is used as a firm of
birth, birth control right, butnow that's been reversed yes and
it's not supposed to be a thingunless it's like a medical
emergency situation, correct.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Some states have completely banned it.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
That should increase it should because people can't
not have sex with each otherthat is true, but here's the
scary part of it is one yes,people are still going to have
sex with each other.
That seems to be dwindling inresearch that some people aren't
having sex.
Not as much as they used to.
Why?
Because we're so stuck on ourphones and our entertainment and
our TVs and our computers andthis social life where we're not
(24:06):
actually seeking real physical,intimate.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
No, because everybody's watching too much
porn.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Well, yes, that is absolutely part of it because
that's gonna get you where youneed to be and this idea of
artificial intelligence, whereartificial intelligence, these
ai humans, so to speak, arereplacing real physical
relationships with people.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
It's like I robots I'm done all over, I'm done, I
know.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I know you're just, you're finished, you're done.
So I say all this to say this Ithe view, I have such a hard
time and I struggle to believethat they all truly believe that
men are purely useless.
I know this was more of a hey,how can we get some, some
attention?
Speaker 5 (24:47):
How can we get some ratings?
Let's say something stupid, sopeople will watch.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Exactly how can we get some attention our way, good
or bad, people will watch.
Exactly how can we get someattention our way, good or bad
but you know how can we becontroversial to drive eyeballs
to our tv and get more clicksand more people to look at this?
I have to believe that's,that's the intent of it, but I
do believe there's thisunderlying tone where people
believe yeah, you know, wereally don't need men anymore
well, joy bayharsal, blah, blah,blah, blah, it too.
(25:12):
Yeah, I think that's a scarything.
And again, this whole idea ofthe timeline and the people and
extinction.
We're nowhere near that, but ifwe really got rid of man
completely, that's somethingthat we could possibly see.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
I'm not sure if they're believers.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
I mean everybody wants to say they believe in God
.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
But what God do they believe in?
Speaker 4 (25:37):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
What God do they pray to?
And if they do believe that menare useless, do they believe
God's a woman?
Speaker 4 (25:52):
I have seen where there are people who, yes, they
believe God.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
That one show we watched, where she thought she
was mother God.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Yes, well, there are people who believe one God's a
woman.
There's also some who believeGod is a.
They them and that whole thing,which is that's something I
don't even want to think abouttoday.
Yeah, so the last point that Iwant to bring up and it's
something that you brought uptoo where, towards the end of
(26:19):
the conversation on the View washaving to initiate the
conversation and all men cantalk about, are sports and cars,
and I have a reason to believewhy that might be the case.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Maybe that's just the men that they know.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
One.
Maybe it's the men that theyknow.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
How old are these people?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
They're probably in their 40s to 50s, maybe I really
don't know.
But I believe that the reasonthat I've got to look it up now,
go ahead.
That's the only thing that theywill say no, and the only
things I have conversationsabout is one because men have
been told well, you're notallowed to have feelings, you
(26:59):
can't be vulnerable.
You know the cultural norm is,as Ben, you know, it's just suck
it up.
You know, just get over it,just suck it up.
That's, that's just going to bethe way that.
It is the reason I think morepeople have these conversations
that with with men or with theirhusbands or whoever that can't
seem like they can get in anydepth with, I think is mostly
(27:23):
because there was a point intime where that man whether it
was with you or with someoneelse did truly let the guard
down and they did truly open upand they were truly vulnerable
and they were shouted down withit.
They were told I'll suck it up,you shouldn't feel that way.
They let the guard down andthey let someone in on something
(27:45):
they're going through that isdeep and serious and they really
want to be able to get it out.
And then somehow that wasturned around and it was used
against them in some way, and Ithink that's one of the reasons
men don't want to have thesein-depth conversations.
I think that's why, wheneveryou have a conversation with a
guy sometimes and you really tryto, you know, hey, what's going
(28:05):
on, how you doing, you'll justget the fine women do the same
thing they do.
But I think men by and large arejust like now everything's fine
, it's good.
It's good because there wasthat one time where they said
something a little bit more indepth and it was somehow taken
out of context, it was somehowtwisted or used against them in
a future argument or something,and when that happens the man is
(28:28):
going to say never again youwant me to tell you the ages of
these people?
How old?
Speaker 5 (28:36):
as of august 2023.
One, the joy behar I may evensay her name right is 80, she's
80 she looks great for 80 Idon't know what she looks like.
Then there's one that's 45, 51,54, and 34.
How many?
Speaker 4 (28:56):
There's five of them.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
One, two, three, four , five.
Yeah, so there's one millennial34.
Her name Alyssa Griffin.
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Doesn't matter either way.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
No, I'm looking at it , I'm saying it but one is 45,
so she's closer to our age andthe other about 10 years older
than us yep I feel like we aremore, we relate more to the
(29:44):
generation above us.
I could see that, yeah, 34 yearold.
I don't know if that's the case.
I feel like I would be happy tobe a millennial than these old,
pissed off women who are madbecause their husbands are
useless.
No wonder, 80 years old, herhusband's still alive.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Well, I don't even necessarily think that.
I think their minds have beentwisted, that they don't need a
man.
Um, like I said before, we needeach other, you know.
That's the reason God createdEve was.
We're meant for relationship,we're not meant to do it alone.
We can think that we're all bigand bad and independent.
We don't need anybody, we don'tneed to lean on anybody ever,
(30:26):
but that's just not the case.
We need other people.
Whether we like it or not, weneed a partner in all this.
Whether we like it or not, weneed a partner in all this,
whether we like it or not, menneed women and women need men,
because all of the stuff that Italked about, about the you know
labor about the labor shortagesand all of that.
(30:47):
If we were to flip the scriptand we were to eliminate women,
the exact same thing wouldhappen.
Yeah, these, these other fieldsthat we need so badly, yeah,
they would be filled by men, butall the ones that the women are
so much better at than men,those would go away completely
too.
We would see the exact samething on both sides.
And my point is we just we needeach other, and wherever you
(31:07):
may be in your relationshipmaybe it's great, maybe it's
struggling, maybe you're seekingit Don't necessarily believe
what the world is telling you,because we badly need each other
.
We need the relationships.
We need people to be able tolean on at some point in time.
So I just I saw this when I waseating lunch this week.
(31:27):
When I was just checking thenews.
I was like this is one of thedumbest, most idiotic statements
I think I've ever heard thatmen are useless, men and women
are both not useless and we needeach other badly.
Any final thoughts before we go, cause we got to go.
Joy's on her second husband.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Okay, no wonder she mad.
She don't like men.
You didn't like, didn't do itright the first time, why'd?
Speaker 4 (31:51):
you get another one, I mean, hey, there's always
opportunity for, for a secondchance.
I think again, this is mostlyfor clicks and for entertainment
purposes and she's 81 but thereare a lot of people who will
truly believe this and, uh,that's disheartening, to say the
least.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
I mean, I guess you know, respect your elders.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Final thoughts baby she, whoever her plastic surgeon
is, does a great job.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Oh, she looks amazing for 80 something years old 81.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
All right Well that's all I got for you.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
I never knew what she looked like we got to go Good
for you, Joy.
Listen, men and women you arenot useless.
We badly need each other.
God, we love you.
We are so thankful for what youdo.
We are thankful that youcreated relationship, because we
so badly need them, and ourprayer is for anyone who ever
hears this to seek one the mostimportant relationship with you,
(32:41):
because you are the one who weneed to be focused on, lay our
foundation for everything we doon and God just be able to bring
the relationships that we needin our lives, that are going to
make us better, and pointourselves towards you to be able
to find the fulfillment and thejoy that we need in our lives,
that are going to make us betterand point ourselves towards you
to be able to find thefulfillment and the joy that we
need in our lives.
We love you and we thank you inJesus name, amen.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Amen Play ball.
I like to talk sports, joy.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Bam.
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