A Conversation with Juleen Moreno, the Host of It Goes Down In The PM

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Episode Transcript

(00:15):
Well, hey, they're friends andwelcome back. I'm your host Melanie Peterson
and for today's episode, I amjoined by Julie Moreno. As you may
or may not know if, shewas involved in a pretty horrific car accident
in November of twenty nineteen, whenthe car that she and her fiance Rob
were in was rear ended by anothercar going well over the posted speed limit

(00:38):
of sixty five miles per hour.The estimated speed at the time of impact
is thought to be somewhere in theninety miles per hour range. The after
effects of this crash have been devastatingto Julene, her fiance, and her
children, both physically and emotionally.But despite being faced by all these challenges,

(01:00):
with the adversity of not being ableto go back to her job due
to the injuries that she sustained fromthe accident, she has found a way
to channel her experience, channeling hercreativity into a positive outcome, creating both
her podcast as well as her business, mom's Always Write Media Incorporated, where
she shares her unfiltered thoughts on dailylife in her blog also by the same

(01:25):
name. So this is my conversationwith Juliane about her experience since the accident
and where life has taken her untilnow. Buckle up, my friends,
this one is going to be abumpy ride. This is mask of sanity.

(02:06):
I just kind of want to openit up to you for you to
talk about your experience and what you'vebeen dealing with, what anything that you're
comfortable talking about with this whole situation, So if you want to, I
don't know. Yeah, I gaveyou all the case information. I don't

(02:30):
I don't. I had a hardtime finding I don't know if there's much
out there or if it's just notavailable to the public. Yeah, because
like there aren't even any news articlesor anything that I could find about him.
No, he's not in the news. A situation didn't make it in
the news. It was not newsworthy. But I mean it is what

(02:58):
it is, you know, itwas a important to me. I had
a Class B license before the accident. I made a whole living driving buses.
I drove a school bus at first, and then when I moved here,
I did like party buses, transitbuses, the pair of transit your
dial a rid. I was theworld supervisor and that's you know, Class

(03:23):
B license and then I was drivingUber and Lyft too to make an extra,
like a few extra dollars. Californiais super expensive. That's the one
thing. Like in New Haven,I had a four bedroom apartment and was
paying eleven seventy five. So Iwas working like fifteen hour days. I

(03:45):
was working a lot because that's howI made ends meet, you know,
that's how I contributed to my household, and that's how I provided for my
kids. And one night I wentto go get my fiance. Were sharing
car. I want to go gethim. And then next thing, you
know, it was like we weretrucking along. We're in the slow lane

(04:08):
because we both have commercial licenses,and you know, a speeding ticket will
like basically it's not good if youhave a commercial license, I believe it,
And it depends on how fast you'regoing to We get people with commercial
license get like double the points.So if the speeding tickets four points on

(04:30):
your license for you, that's eightpoints for us. Wow. So we
were doing fifty five in the slowlane. Figured, you know, that's
our job. And then we're talking. I just remember we're talking about the
wedding and like venues and all thatstuff, and I remember the radio playing

(04:55):
and I was singing along with itand dancing around and being completely goofy,
and all of a sudden, itwas like the car was hit and I
flew forward and then it spun andthen it hit the wall and I flew

(05:15):
forward them backward. I remember justsinking, Oh my god, rubs in
front. He's tall the stairing wheelsthere. He is entirely too close to
the stairing wheel because how big heis. And I remember reaching my arm
around to kind of shield him becauseI thought the airbag would deploy. I

(05:39):
was worried. And when the carhit the wall, the airbag never deployed,
and it just kind of scrunched uplike you saw the picture of the
car. We're trapped in the littlelike dirt bank. Yeah, And I
remember not being able to get outof the car, like the driver's side

(06:02):
door wouldn't open at all, andthen I was trying to get to get
my door open, and then Robinand I were trying to get out,
and then finally, like we wemanaged to push the door open because I
moved, I pulled my legs outof the front and try and like kick

(06:28):
the door open. So we canget out. And then Rob climbed out
of the car, and then theother guy's car was on the whole other
side of the highway. Like youknow, when like two pullballs hit and
they split in opposite directions. That'swhen our cars did. This dude dumbled

(06:50):
across the highway and he was hejust I remember who was like crying and
he was scared. He's like,oh my god, are you okay?
Are you okay? And I justI could smell the alcohol on him.
And Rob jumped out the car andhe's like, you could have killed us.

(07:12):
And then I told I was like, I'm not just let the police
handle him. Let the police hadhim him. He's trash. You smell
the alcohol on him. And thenI don't know what happened. I got
lightheaded and then Rob put me downin the back seat, but I was
cold there shot and then um probablyif you you see the pictures, you'll

(07:43):
see me in the back seat ofthe car. Um. I just remember.
I just I felt lightheaded and thenit felt like I couldn't stay vertical.
I just felt so dizzy. Andthen I was cold, like really
cold, and Rob plating me inthe backs of the car. And we

(08:05):
waited and the ambulance came and theykept it. They said are you okay,
um, and he just kept shiningthe lights in my eyes and they're
like, Juliane, Julie, doyou know where you are? There's been
an accident. You were hit bya drunk driver. The police are talking

(08:26):
to him now, and I justlike the him. The paramedic was like,
he's drunk. He's obviously drunk.I can smell when he's drunk.
And then um, he was sittingand apparently he had buddies in the car.
So I heard the police officer talkedto him and he's like, yeah,

(08:48):
you know, your buddies took offright. And then I'm just I
was cold, I was shape,I was I was cold, and then
I just kept and then I heardthat I had just gotten bad. I
wasn't cold anymore. Like my facegot hot and I was I was so
mad. I was like, youcould have killed me. I was going

(09:11):
off. I was so mad howand then I think I told I said,
I have three kids. I gottaget home too. They took us
over to the hospital in Santa FeSprings. They ran the CT over me
and you know, they said,so far, there's no concussion, no
nothing, You're gonna be sore inthe morning. I was like, oh,

(09:35):
okay, I can't imagine. Iwas jerked around in the car whatever.
And you know, apparently, accordingto the police report, he hit
us doing more than doing like ninetymiles an hour, So my car was
re ended at ninety miles an hourand it and it was like twice see

(09:58):
him because it was him hitting usand then us hitting the while. And
then after that, I woke upand my legs were numb. I had
to go to the bathroom and Icouldn't stand up on my own. My

(10:22):
whole body just hurt and up.Rob had to carry me to the bathroom,
so I didn't so I didn't goon myself. How long were you
in the hospital. I was onlyin the hospital for the night, and

(10:46):
then I got I went They sentme home. And then when I woke
up that morning, I was inso much pain, so I went to
the VA. I was steen.I had to I had to use a
Halloween prop until the VA could seeme, which was embarrassing. It was

(11:09):
it was super embarrassing. And thenand then I was tired also, like
I could not stand to be onmy feet, and I ended up getting
like a rollater. It's like awalker wheelchair combos like a walker with wheels
and a seat so I can sitdown and push myself around. Yeah,

(11:31):
and that I was in apt forlast, like for eight months, from
November till June. Was like itwasn't even the beginning of June. It
was like the end of the Juneand I had been I live a very

(11:56):
well how used to live a veryactive lifestyle, used to surf, and
I wanted to do long distance cycling. It wasn't unusual for me to get
on my bike and ride eleven milesto work and eleven miles back. I
had an old Instagram. I justwanted to delete it. I couldn't stand
and look at it because it wasall pictures of me, you know,

(12:18):
on my way to the gym,coming from the gym, after a bike
ride where I pushed it in oneanother mile, on my way to the
beach, pictures with me and mysurfboard. And I just I never wanted

(12:39):
to be indoors. My mom hadto beat me in it into a dress.
I just I love being outside,camping and hiking and doing all kinds
of stuff. I wanted to dothe at At one point I wanted to
get my triple crown, the atthe CDT and the PCT and and there

(13:03):
I was in a roll litter.It was like and I told um,
I told that lady who does theBabel Baby podcast, is true. Suffering
is being trapped in your own body. All the weight I lost I came

(13:28):
back. I'm bigger than I've everbeen in my life. Yeah, I'm
still kind of like I relearned.I had to relearn how to walk because
my right leg sometimes got numb andI had to I started, you know,

(13:52):
putting more weight on my left legbecause there was a stronger one.
I was like, if I walkedaround too long, you know, without
the role it or both my legswould go down sometimes. So I went
into the first procedure in June.I was able to walk on my own.
Then I went back in October,then November. The one in November

(14:16):
was the most painful prescedure because theywere injecting. I had three discs that
ballooned out and it was pushing onthe knives in my legs. So I
went in and they did an injectionand then to relieve the pressure. I

(14:37):
guess it makes it swell less.I don't know. I went in a
second and third time, and thatthird one it was like it was so
painful. I felt like they wereputting more medicine. On the third time,
it felt like the progression. Thefirst ti time it was like it

(15:01):
was like, and it's over.The second time it was it was more
painful. And then my son's gotinto a fight two days after by a
procedure, so I jumped up topull them apart. And then and then
I was in so much pain.I couldn't like I had to stay off
my feet. I wasn't even active. And then the third procedure, I

(15:26):
was off my feet for a fullweek because it was just so painful.
After that, you know, theysay, okay, you could return to
physical activity, but I can't.I can't lift one than ten pounds,
you know, I have to workmy way up. And then here I

(15:46):
am. I tried to. Iwant to lose weight. I got zoom
bag, got my fitness pounds,a little fitbit. I know. I
joke around and I was like,yeah, I feel like I got the
judgmental bit. As you've been inactivefor over an hour, like I don't
know why I'm at work. Iwas just like, screw you, fit

(16:07):
bit, I know how long I'vebeen sitting here. So the procedure was
but November, so it's only beena yeah, there's November seven months.
Since that's not that long considering howmuch trauma your back has sustained in that
accident. So I mean, yeah, the accident happened November eleventh, twenty

(16:37):
nineteen. Then I went in forthe first procedure in June, and then
that following the October, and thenthis past November, and I've been trying
to exercise because again I'm the biggestI've ever been in my life. My
uncle needs a kidney as immediate familyhas diabetes. I don't have diabetes,

(17:03):
but they won't even test me tosee if I'm a match unless I drop
one hundred pounds. And that's tosay nothing of the property damage, the
medical bills. I didn't have gapinsurance on my Malibu, so the insurance

(17:23):
totaled the car. But there's stilllike two thousand dollars that I owe.
And then and then because I sometimescan't feel my feet, I can't drive
anymore. This accident has competed howyou live your life in every single way.

(17:48):
Yes, and they just plot thisguy recently, That's what I'm listening.
He went on the run. Theyissued a bench warrant for him.
He was supposed to appear in courtin August. No they Yeah, he

(18:11):
was supposed to appear in court inAugust, and day did not find him
until recently. It's like he's tryingto run out the clock so he doesn't
have to answer for this. Wait. So the accident happened in November twenty
nineteen. His court date wasn't untilAugust. Yeah, they had no idea.

(18:36):
I had no idea. Well,yeah, because of COVID, but
like they had no idea where hewas. Yeah, felony duy. Yeah,
I just I don't understand how.I don't know. I don't know.
I'm not law enforcement. I wouldn'tpresume to know how to handle a

(18:56):
situation like that. But it's beenalmost see what he was coming up on
a year and a half since theyaccident, what happened. They were waiting
for his blood work to come back. See, and here's the thing too,
this is why I feel like thisis old hat for him. Because

(19:17):
he told him he would like blood. They said blood, breath or humor,
and he said blood. So theydrove him the facility to give blood.
From his blood drawn. They gotto the facility, He's like,
no, I need a hospital.He said, to drive him all the
way to the hospital. By thenhe hit us at like one forty eight.

(19:42):
Thenn't draws blood to like five o'clockin the morning, and he was
still over the legal limit. Imean, at least the blood tess got
him as being with the legal limit. And you can do a calculation.

(20:02):
They know how quickly they know thehalf life of your BAC and how it
goes down per hours. So that'sa simple calculation like that. He tried
it though. I tried to runout the time so that he wouldn't be
Yeah, which tells me I feellike he's done this before. He's driven

(20:26):
drunk before, been pull over.The first time he's done that, not
at all. It might have beenthe first time he got really caught.
I mean, how else would hehave known to run the time? I
am right, do you know ifhe has a prior record? I don't
know anything about this, dude.Okay, I checked too. I had

(20:51):
in my case, number the police, the police report from the accident,
the pictures, dude's name, andthe address. I don't I don't know
if he has a record or anything. I'm sure the police do. If
they have his information, they'd beable to run a check on him.
Yeah, but I would get mynext paycheck that This is not the first

(21:18):
time he's done something like this,But it's a good thing he got caught.
So probably the first time someone gotseriously injured. Probably unfortunately, but
I mean thankfully both of you survived. Does Rob have any injuries that he's
still dealing with. Probably he hasa shoulder injury because his seat felt pulled

(21:45):
his shoulder back. My seat beltdidn't because I reached my arm over to
protect his face got it. Andyour car didn't flip. He did it.
It didn't roll when it was goingdown the embankment. It just kind
of slid like bound. So it'sfun out, it's fun. He hit

(22:07):
us like this, Yeah, hehit us. He went that way,
we went this way, and thenwe spun fun okay like and then smack
into the embankment. Yeah, youprobably have this crazy whiplash two from that.
I can't even imagine what did theVA say after they saw you?

(22:30):
They took an MRI and the accident, I guess started just caused each generation
in my disks and they ballooned out. And then I don't even honestly,
I read the thing. I'm prettysmart, Okay, I read that and

(22:56):
like, I'm reading that and I'mlike, so does that mean my discs
are just going to wither away anddie or something? What does that even
mean? But I mean they cannotboth balloon out and whither away, right,
I mean, one part of yourspine might do one thing and one

(23:19):
might do the other, because yourentire spinal column has been severely traumatized with
that amount of trauma. And thenthey said it's degenerative. I hope you
guys are planning to sue this dude. Are? It was just that we
couldn't because he was on the run, right, But now that he's in

(23:41):
questody, I'm assuming he's behind barssomewhere. Yes, so he can't run
again, And I hope so,Lord, I hope so he should be.
I mean, if he's already runonce flight risk, he has no
business being allowed to be walking aroundyeah, or build out or anything else.
Right. Yeah, the amount ofdamage, like he took away your

(24:07):
livelihood. It's not like you cansit in a car or a bus or
anything for fifteen hours a day likeyou were doing. You can't do that.
That would be hell for your back. It's against the law for me
to do that anyway, because becausemy legs will go um if if the

(24:30):
show wears off, will just whatyou were doing? Yeah, I mean
I did take that and turn itinto what I got now. You know,
I started my own company. Iwrote, I started you know,

(24:51):
I continue to work on my book. I produced these podcasts. I have
a podcast network. I just tookthis situation and made the best of it
the only way I knew how.No, that's good, but I'll if
I didn't have anything, I wouldlike to be able to you know,

(25:17):
I would like to be able toride my bike, lose some weight.
I went hiking. I went hiking, and that's fun. I've been back
to hiking and camping. But Ihaven't gotten on a bike yet. I
don't because I don't want to geton the thing and then have it be

(25:42):
just something else I can't do anymore. Right, have you tried a stationary
bike or anything like that, justto see if your body can even just
handle being in that position before youI don't know, like are you or
anything like that. Like I don'teven how to recome a bike, and

(26:06):
then I sold it, so I'mgonna pick up the upright bike. Now
it's a like it's a progression.I try to become a bike, a
bright bike, and then the realone. So you're working. Yeah,
I do go to like physical therapy, but not since the pandemic. Pandemic

(26:29):
husband kind of killing me. Yeah, yeah, and you have his guy's
arrangement is twenty eighth. Um,are you going there to look this guy
in the face and be like,you screwed up my life and now you're
gonna pay for it. I wantto be at all the court dates because

(26:51):
the thing people tend to forget isthat the these crimes have haven't I'm not
a victim. I survived it,So these crimes have survivors. Survivors have
faced this. We get so caughtup in the name of the dude who
committed the crime that we forget aboutthe people that they hurt. The survivors

(27:21):
should be, the people that wereimpacted by these people should be the focus.
I agree. So I'm going tobe at all the court dates,
all of them, because I'm notgoing to be out of sight, out
of mind. He did something messedup and he's going to have to look

(27:45):
me in the face every single courtdate, every single time. And I
don't want him to get a deal. So if that's what the state's looking
for, I'm not interested in himgetting a deal. I'm interested in him
going to prison. Yeah, Iunderstand. So I'm going there so they

(28:11):
remember that I have a face,I have a name, and I have
rights. Do you have Do youhave anyone representing you, like a lawyer
or during all of this? AndI do have attorning Robert Smith. I

(28:33):
don't know that he would go tohis court I mean more to just like
make sure that the ball gets rollingfor you in case, for some reason
the state does try to cut adeal with this guy, like he's still
able to work on your behalf toget you and rob what you guys deserve

(28:55):
in this situation. Yes, ofattorney Robert Smith and UM out of Encino,
California. And I mean he's he'sbeen a good lawyer. I use
him from my company things. SoI'm hoping. And then I got the

(29:18):
victim advocate for MAD and there's acourt advocate as well. But the MAD
advocate sends me stuff, you know, like, uh, she sent me
a pamphlet for a spinal injury.Um, she's she sent me like a
whole big thick yellow envelope regarding allthe services and stuff. And then she

(29:45):
sends me um like support groups andyou know, walk for awareness and stuff
like that. I mean, it'sreally simple. If you're driving, if
you are driving home, don't drink. If you know you plan on drinking,
well, I know there's uber andLyft. I used to drive it.

(30:07):
I call a friend in charge ofdriving. Yeah, designated driver.
No, I agree. And unfortunately, I don't understand why drinking and driving
is. It's such an issue,and yet it gets overlooked all the time.

(30:30):
This is not a new phenomenon.This is something that has been going
on for decades and that yet thereare still cases like yours and cases like
the one I just covered John andKatie Palmer, Like, why do these
people, innocent people have to paythe price and continue to suffer for months

(30:52):
and years after the fact When thesepeople made a horribly poor decision and they're
either getting away with it completely orthey're not being held accountable, or either
they're cutting deals in the state becausebecause the prisons are overcrowded. And you

(31:15):
know, this is considered a minorthing, but it's not. It wasn't
minor to me. No, Mywhole life change. Yeah, everything from
the way I like to pass mymy free time to don't wear make my
money. Yeah. Yeah, andespecially in the last year with the pandemic

(31:41):
and everything, like everybody's financial situationhas changed pretty much. And to know
that you don't even have that asan option now that things are starting to
pick back up. Oh yeah,I'm bus drivers are considered essential workers,
right, Yeah, my fiance worksthrough the pandemic. Yeah, that would

(32:05):
have been job security for for me. I mean, I don't regret opening
my business. I don't. Butmy company is wonderful. It's a great
platform for me to raise awareness aboutmental health and autism awareness and you know,
rage against junk driving. But stilla little bit of the option to

(32:30):
make a little bit extra would havebit nice. I totally get that.
What inspired you to start the business, aside from trying to channel your energy
into something productive, instead of focusingon this horrible thing that happened to you.

(32:51):
Was there is there something in yourpersonal life and you don't have to
go into it if you don't wantto. Um just mental health and autism
are very specific topics. Was justcurious, Well, my son was diagnosed
with autism like a couple of yearsbefore I moved here, while my daughter

(33:12):
was still little, and I didn'tknow anything about it. Every time I
googled something, some trash would popup, like stressed during pregnancy caused us
autism, vaccinations cause autism, andI just didn't think that was cool.
So, you know, I hadto commit my son to a mental health

(33:38):
facility. I called a crisis line. They said they don't know, they
don't deal with that sort of thing. So they told me to take him
to the hospital. So then Itook him to the Yale Children's Hospital up
the street from my house at thetime, and they said to they have

(34:00):
to commit him to Winchester One becausehe's harming himself. He's self harming.
So I did that and I wroteI wrote about it. It was in
the March or April issue of Vividmagazine for autism awareness months, and it

(34:22):
talked about you know my well,the article is called the Impossible Choice.
You can also see it on mywebsite that I talked about not being able
to find any information and having tocommit my son, and the nurse whispered
in my ear my grandson's just likeyour son. I'll give you all the

(34:45):
information I have. And it waslike I suddenly entered a secret society of
ninja moms and there was something shewould be that way. Yeah, it
shouldn't be that way. It shouldit's it's not a it's not a secret.

(35:06):
And you know, being a motherof an autistic child, it's you
know, yes, we say we'reawesome moms, we are amazing, we're
super women, but we're human beings, and moms have such a hard time
and knitting when they are having ahard time because society expects us to be

(35:28):
this super mom that doesn't do anythingwrong, and other moms judge you the
hardest. I'm glad that you aredoing what you're doing and trying to bring
awareness to just how hard it isto be a mom, and the extra

(35:51):
judgment is unnecessary, unwarranted, unneeded. Like you can have an opinion,
but you're gonna have to say it. Oh, oh, no, people
are entitled to their own opinion,but don't come for me. I'm right
here with you. I see you. So that's why I created this platform,

(36:13):
mental health Awareness. I'm a veteranwith PTSD. I you know,
I still have nightmares and whatnot,and I learned to cope with them.
I employ the check it change ofmethod. I've made strides. I want

(36:35):
to destigmatize the idea that going totherapy is a bad thing. Going to
therapy is a fantastic thing. It'sa going to the doctor for an illness
you know you have. You're stillgoing to a doctor or a mental health
like You're going to somebody who's qualifiedto help you exactly. I agree.

(36:58):
I don't see anything wrong with it, and I highly recommend it. You
know, by the time you getto age thirty eight, like me,
you know you are battle battle tornand war torn by life. Life does
its damnness to you know. Lifewill knock you down over and over again

(37:22):
just to test your metal, youknow, and no one gets out of
it alife. Sorry to say,oh, everybody has something to deal with.
Nobody gets through life and stage oryou can meet what kind of life
would that be because it's it's likeit's like exercising your muscles hurt, they're

(37:46):
crying, your sweating. It's miserablesometimes, but that's sweet feeling. When
you've gone that one more mild andfive more minutes. That victory is way
better than anything life can throw itat you. But you know, by

(38:10):
the time you hit thirty eight forty, you're brown to house some battle scars.
Go go, go see a therapist. It'll change your life. I
agree. I love mine. She'sgreat, so helpful. After after divorcing

(38:32):
my daughter's dad, I don't regretit. I regret nothing. After after
divorcing my daughter's dad, I like, I wanted to see a therapist because
I knew I knew I wasn't okay. I needed to heal that that man,
that man put me through the most, so I knew I needed to

(38:54):
heal to be the best version ofmyself, and I did so. When
I met Rob, it was likeI was finally like I was able to
give him the best version of me. I could love openly and honestly,
like I'd never been hurt. AndI don't regret it for a second.

(39:17):
It has been the best relationship I'veever had in my life. This man
is the love of my life andhe has I mean in the beginning of
our relationship. We got together inFebruary. When we met in February,

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and then we were official in March. We got into the accident that November,
and can you imagine that short amountof time this man stayed with me

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do everything. You know, hepicked me up, he helping toilet and
we hadn't been together that long.Hey, it hadn't even been a year.
Yeah, but you know, hetold me it's fine, he said,
he's never felt like this about anybody. I'm the love if he's life.

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You Okay, I'm glad that youguys have each other. But I
wouldn't have been able to trust himor do any of that if I hadn't
gone to therapy and taking care ofthe hurts from the previous relationship. You

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know, it's hard, especially especiallywith the military stuff, the divorced stuff.
I had a lot of things towork through, and I still am
working through some things. Thank youall so much for listening. Please go
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which I admire so much because Iam not always like that, so
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in the space where the shadows playand the inexplicable lives, where a hotel
room is anything. But we shouldstop and get some rest. We both
need it badly. This has gotto be one of the strangest places for
a hotel I've ever seen, wherea supernatural entity watches your every move.

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Help. I need help. What'swrong? I'm being stopped. There's a
man outside my house, where anythingcan happen and nothing is as it appears.
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