March 31, 2025 • 59 mins
Two spiritual guides discover they were divinely inspired with the same name—"Empowered Within"—decades apart, launching a profound exploration of intuitive guidance and human consciousness.
Kerie Logan welcomes Jennifer, a 25-year veteran of holistic practices ranging from rehabilitative Pilates to Reiki healing and intuitive mediumship. Their conversation quickly reveals the synchronistic nature of their work, as both received the name "Empowered Within" through divine guidance for their respective platforms.
Jennifer shares her evolution from receiving subtle intuitive hits as a young empath to fully embracing her spiritual gifts. "People didn't necessarily listen to me, but I had a lot to say," she reflects on her childhood. Now, she helps others transform by lighting up what already exists within them rather than attempting to give power externally.
The dialogue delves into practical aspects of intuition—recognizing signs, discerning which messages carry weight, and understanding that spiritual guidance becomes accessible when we elevate ourselves above negative emotional states. Jennifer explains how current astrological conditions (between retrogrades and eclipses) create a crucial journaling time rather than a period for answers.
Their most powerful insights emerge when discussing boundaries and authenticity. Jennifer's declaration that "just because you're a spiritual person and just because you want to ride a unicorn doesn't mean that you're not going to kick some serious butt along the way when lines are crossed" serves as a reminder that spirituality doesn't require doormat behavior.
Both women share personal stories of following intuitive guidance through health crises, toxic relationships, and career decisions, demonstrating how inner wisdom becomes a practical tool for navigating life's challenges. Their experiences highlight that intuitive abilities strengthen like muscles through consistent practice and trust.
Ready to develop your own intuitive gifts? Join these spiritual guides in discovering how to recognize divine guidance, protect your energy, and find the empowerment that already exists within you.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello everyone, this is your host, Keri Logan at
Master of the Upper Rooms, and Iam so excited, so excited to be
talking with Jennifer today.
And why I'm excited to talk toher is her podcast is the name
of one of my websites, empoweredWithin.
And what I want to share reallyquickly before I bring her in
(00:26):
is you know, I always talk abouthuman consciousness and if I
was stuck in 3D humanconsciousness, I'd be mad at her
, I'd be jealous and envious andI'd be like you stole my name.
But I'm not.
I am so grateful and so joyfuland ecstatic to talk to her
today because she's doingwonderful things for humanity
(00:51):
and this world.
And what was so cool, when wewere talking before I hit record
, god gave her that name and Godgave me that name for my
website over 20 years ago.
So we're going to dive in andlearn all about Jennifer today.
And I'm just over the moon.
You can see I'm just like aboutto jump out of my seat and go
(01:12):
yay, yay, yay.
So, jennifer, welcome to Masterthe Upper Rooms.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Thank you so much for having me.
I'm so excited.
Finally, after all these years,we've our paths have crossed
and we're here together.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yes, it's so cool, so tell me about yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So, oh my gosh, like that's such a loaded question.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I know Loaded question.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Well, like you, I have been doing my practice for
gosh.
It's 25 plus years now.
Someone said that's two decades.
I'm like, oh my goodness.
So for two decades I've been inthe holistic practice industry,
from rehabilitative Pilates toReiki, healing, to being an
intuitive medium all of thethings.
(01:54):
And one thing has, you know,come into another and into
another, and the beauty of itall is truly being able to help
people transform from within andto find their empowerment
within.
I'm not here to give it to you.
I'm here to light you up, sothat you can feel what's within
you, and to me, that is one ofthe best gifts of all.
(02:17):
And so, whether that comesthrough Pilates training,
whether that comes throughspiritual coaching, whether
that's mindset, whether that'sReiki, whether that's a reading,
it's just that it comes throughand that is so important to be
of service and to be able tohelp so many people and to have
been given the gifts and theability to help on so many
different levels which have comeover the 25 years.
(02:39):
It all started with my Pilatespractice many, many moons ago,
and everything has just expandedsince then so I'm very blessed
and then expanded into thepodcast which we were just
talking about I was going to befour years old I can't even
believe it in May, which is soamazing, I know, so amazing.
So I feel so grateful every dayand so blessed to be able to
(03:02):
show up and help people throughvarious platforms like yourself,
whether that's podcasting orYouTube or all this stuff.
It's just that's what I livefor.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yes, and I think it's really interesting how getting
those intuitive hits becausehits?
Because it never came to myawareness to do a podcast for
Empowered Within.
It never did.
I created a YouTube channel,you know, for how you're being
(03:47):
called to be of service and alot of people can be kind of
confused like, well, I don'tknow about this, I don't know
about that, but when you getthat intuitive hit, it's to me,
it's like the cherry on top tome.
(04:08):
It's like the cherry on top.
It really is, and you're beingcalled by something higher than
you.
You're not questioning it,you're not doubting it, you're
not dismissing it.
So maybe to help some peopleunderstand, when you started
getting intuitive hits, how wasthat for you?
Was it weird?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Tell me your journey on that well, it started very
young for me.
So, being an empath and havingkind of grown up in sort of a
tumultuous situation, I alwaysjust sort of knew things.
People didn't necessarilylisten to me, but I had a lot to
say and I can remember.
You can go back to like being alittle kid with my report cards
and what was that was alwayssaid about me she talks too much
(04:44):
, she talks too much.
And I always say, well, ifpeople would have listened,
probably a lot of lives would bedifferent these days.
Yeah, so, um, subtle things.
Right, like I just didn't.
There's a beauty in being naivebefore you understand your
spiritual journey.
Yes, so I would say at somepoint, I just, I, I really just,
(05:05):
oh, like, take a right turn.
Okay, take a right turn.
Oh, look what I found down thisroad.
Or it was just very easy, and Iwould say there are times
before I knew, or before I was,who I am today, that I was
probably even way more spiritualor way more open than I am
today, in different ways and indifferent facets, and that's
(05:30):
what I find, when I look backover the journey, to be so
incredible.
Now it is like I just signs areeverywhere and now it's about
discerning well, what sign hasweight, yes, and what is just
sort of something that's comingby, especially right now.
Two retrogrades, you know, inbetween two eclipses, like this
(05:50):
is not a time for answers, youknow.
So it's this.
Would you know?
This is a huge journaling timewrite down all the signs and
then in another two, three weeks, what still has weight, what is
still there.
And so there's that learningcurve over the years.
I love it, though you know itstarts out with little things
and little things become bighits.
And you know, like, getting backto the podcast, I happen to be
(06:11):
working with Tony Robbins at thetime.
We were doing intense threedays work, four days work, I
forget it was very intense andit literally broke me down.
But it broke me down to theplace to find my empowered self
within, and that's literally howthe pod you know to give like.
That was huge.
(06:31):
I didn't even know what apodcast was, by the way, I had
never even listened to a podcast.
I was told I was going to do apodcast.
I was told the name, I was ableto buy a microphone and then I
was said, I was told, let it sit, it's not the time yet and I
was caretaking for family and itit's all sat there for like six
(06:53):
months, wow.
So it's just beautiful when youcan lean in or be aware.
Or like last winter I was inSouth Carolina and I'd met these
lovely neighbors and they knewthat I taught Pilates and that I
really wasn't doing it.
I was just doing my virtualtraining with clients.
And then one day the woman cameover and said can we have a cup
of tea?
Okay, that's odd, I never havesomeone like in my home.
But okay, and she looked at meand she goes so when are you
(07:15):
going to start working at theYMCA here?
And I was like I mean, youcouldn't hit me over the head
harder if you wanted.
I couldn't hit me over the headharder if you wanted.
I heard the message and I waslike, well, I guess I'll walk
over tomorrow and kind of checkit out.
And lo and behold, that's whereI was needed.
I was needed to help themchange their program.
(07:35):
I was there for a period of timeand then I exited.
Yeah, you know, and I thinkthat when we're able to
understand who we are meaningwho are you, why are you here,
what is your numerology, what isyour human design, what is your
mission, when you know that,then you can really embrace it
and you can be more in the flowthan getting caught up and
(07:55):
tripped up in the 3D world, soto speak.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yes, yeah, because my kiddo, who's 17 17, he always
talks about signs and he'll seelike numbers three, three, three
or 12, 12 or 11, 11, and he'lllook it up and it's so.
I find it so cool and he'slearning how to listen to his
(08:23):
intuitive hits.
And I got to say this.
I mean, I wish my mom was thatway and my mom did have a
spiritual background.
But where we're at now in ourworld, really listening to those
intuitive hits are amazing.
Because the same for me.
One day I was told, you know,by up above that you're going to
(08:49):
start a podcast and you'regoing to teach master the upper
rooms and you're going to teachhuman consciousness and, like
they said to me, we want you tocreate these images, literally
make a whole.
You know three different pagesof.
This is 3D, human consciousness.
This is 4D, this is 5D and wewant you to do this.
(09:09):
And it's really cool when youget that calling and at times,
some people, we can fight it,and other times we have to learn
to honor it and respect it.
Because for me and I made aYouTube video about how I became
(09:31):
a hypnotherapist and when I wasabout to become homeless with
my daughter that was inkindergarten.
At the time, I was told that,no, you're going to move back to
California.
The perfect job is waitingthere for you.
It's what you were meant to do.
(09:51):
You know born to do.
It's waiting there and, like alot of people, I didn't want to
listen.
I was stuck in fear.
But I had to get over it and Idid, and here I am today.
If I did not make that choiceand listen to that guidance, my
life would be completelydifferent, completely different.
(10:14):
And so it's really learning howto trust and surrender to what
you're, you're hearing andsometimes, like, even if you're
in a really bad, toxicrelationship and you calm down
and you're talking to God, youwill be guided out of that
(10:35):
situation.
You know, and maybe what youneed to, you know, I was in a
situation, I remember, with mydaughter and her father, with
all the legal stuff, and I wasabout to, you know, I could lose
custody of her and I wasfighting, fighting, fighting.
And that night, as I was praying, I completely surrendered
(10:59):
everything and saw myself jumpinto the void and I was just
like, just take me, you know thehighest, into the void.
And I was just like, just takeme, you know the highest and the
best.
And the very next day he calledme up and said I've been trying
for weeks to talk to you aboutthis.
I don't want to fight anymoreand I am willing to stop hurting
you and her If you give up thechild support.
(11:21):
That's all he wanted.
I will waive all my parentalrights and do this.
And I thought to myself there isno price tag on my daughter
none.
And I willingly did it.
I said yes, and that was theanswer I needed, and I had to
let go my control and anger and,wanting to prove him wrong and
(11:44):
wanting to fight, I had tocompletely surrender and rise
all the way up to neutrality, towhere I could just be content
and satisfied.
And in that space the answercame up and it was.
You know, it can be fast.
As you know we can get likehits, like that.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Oh, I love the ones.
I love that you just said this.
So earlier today, before thepodcast, I was upstairs and I
was looking for a top and I wasin my closet.
I'm like God, I'm like, is itpacked, is it not?
And I heard, like it's notthere, it's in the dresser.
And I'm like, are you sure?
Like, like who am I to judge?
(12:30):
You know?
Like, like I'm questioningspirit.
Yeah, so then I go over and Igo, oh, look, you're, you're
right, it was here.
And I go, how come, spirit, youcan give me this tank top like
this?
But the other questions I'masking for right now, oh, no, no
, no, that nope, nope, thatcould be, that could be another
12 months, jennifer, we don'tknow.
That could be another month ortwo, that.
So, like I had to have a jokeand go how funny that.
Like I asked for that and yougave me that.
But if it's something that'sbigger, and I think that goes
back to divine timing and itgoes back to not rushing your
(12:54):
timing of life.
So you have a timing of life andthen there's divine timing and
you find out and you learn moreabout your lifetime, your timing
of life when you understand,going back to who are you again
and why are you here and what isyour mission?
You know, on this school earth,here, that we're learning,
because you know, again, this isone of the planets that, like
(13:16):
you're a badass, especially ifyou're here right now, in this
time, like you didn't get hereby accident, you chose to be
here, oh yeah, now you have tounderstand like, well, why are
you here, and really level upfor that, and I think that
that's one thing that you knowwe all can go back and forth
with and have moments, because Ithink sometimes people think
(13:36):
like, oh, you know, I was teased, like, like I have a big,
life-size unicorn and I'm like,yes, like I need that.
But let me tell you, I know mydark equally as I know my light,
and that's what's mostimportant.
Like I have been through somuch darkness to be able to, yes
, embrace my unicorn, but I dareyou to cross my path at the
(13:57):
same time, because just becauseyou're a spiritual person and
just because you want to ride aunicorn doesn't mean that you're
not going to kick some seriousbutt along the way when lines
are crossed, and I think thatthat's something that needs to
be spoken about, that needs tobe educated, especially with
empaths and highly sensitivepeople who are people pleasers,
(14:19):
who don't understand healthyboundaries, who need to learn
healthy boundaries and thatthat's okay and that if someone
crosses that healthy boundary,it's okay to say no, that's not
okay.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
And that again goes back to wanting watching
something.
And he was talking about whatwas going on in the world and he
was just like scared.
And I said to him just likewhat you did?
You chose to come in at thistime and you knew there would be
great chaos.
But great chaos can creategreat change, because there are
(15:11):
structures that will collapse,so new ones, better ones, can be
rebuilt or you reorganize thestructure.
But you're here for a purposeand a reason, you know.
And it's like you got to getout of that victim mindset of
you know.
The world is just horrible.
And I said change your focus on.
(15:34):
Something good is going to comeout of this.
I don't know what it is, butsomething good is going to be
born and created out of this.
And I and I and I loved it toohow you were talking about the
intuitive hits Cause.
My daughter would tease me upand down I think she's like 27
(15:55):
right now and when she wouldmiss some, an item, she'd be
like mom, where is it?
And I would listen and like andthey would show me sometimes in
my mind's eye oh, it's upstairsin this drawer and dah, dah,
dah, dah.
And she'd go up.
She's like how do you know that?
How?
And I'm just like, cause theyjust told me and they just
showed me where it is, and it'sum, it's hard.
(16:18):
So when someone knows you cando that, they, they'll
constantly be like, okay,where's my keys?
You know where did I put this?
And it's just it's.
I think sometimes it'shilarious.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
It is hilarious, you know, and that's the thing.
Like we need to have morehilariousness in our every day.
You know, one of the things Ido every day is, I'm like, in
the mornings, you know, I gothrough my meditative practice
and I really, you know, setmyself up before I even interact
with any human beings, and oneof the things I always say in
the morning and at night, youknow, in the morning I'm like,
I'm so excited for all theamazing things that are going to
(16:52):
happen today.
And then at night I say I'm youknow, grateful for all of X, y
and Z that happened.
And then, I repeat, I'm soexcited for the amazing things
that are going to happentomorrow.
And let me tell you, when youdo that and you get into a
practice, you're beginning towork with your subconscious mind
and you bring good things in.
Like last night I sat down andI went wow, I'm like there
(17:13):
actually were a couple of good,cool, amazing things that
happened.
I'm not saying a milliondollars is dropping out of the
sky, because it's not going tohappen.
If you're not vibrating at thatlevel, if you're not magnetized
at that same place, it's notgoing to be there.
But it doesn't mean that youcan't win $100 off a lottery
ticket and if that's what youwin, then I want you to like
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dance up and down and be superexcited because you have
probably a higher vibration thanyou even thought and
considering the people or placesand things around you, you know
it's a struggle some days tokeep your vibration up.
You know I don't know about youbut me, like I, I'm a pretty
introverted person.
People think I'm extrovertedand it may seem that way, but
(17:55):
I'm a homebody.
I love to be at home, I love tobe on the beach walking Like I
just like to.
I don't want to say be bymyself, because I'm never by
myself, because even when I'mwalking, you know, spirit is
with me and all my guides andangels are there and we're
having our meeting and et cetera, et cetera.
So I'm never alone.
But to the outside world itprobably appears that way.
Like I remember a friend oncesaid to me and she was miserable
(18:21):
in her marriage and justunhappy.
Things were just.
It was just not good.
And she had a lash out momentand she was like, wow, what do
you want me to be Alone, likeyou?
And I'm thinking you know whatit probably would do you some
good.
Now, being the good friend thatI was in that moment in time
and reading the room, I saidnothing, but you know what else?
(18:44):
I also never spoke to thatfriend again because I realized
at that moment in time there wasso much envy and jealous there
was nothing I could do right.
This had been going on for years.
She needed to walk that muckand maybe she'll walk out of it
and walk back into my life.
But for now I did all I coulddo in that part and I think that
that's something too, whenyou're on your spiritual path,
to understand it's okay to letpeople go and it's okay to let
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new people in and it's okay towalk away, and that that is a is
a challenge, especially if,again, if you're an empath or a
highly sensitive person whoagain?
You're a people pleaser, you're, you know, you're wanting to
see the best, you've got thoserose-colored glasses on and you
need to have discernment andneed to understand that.
(19:29):
Oh okay, yeah, hmm, this isn'tfeeling so great anymore.
It's not feeling in alignment.
Then it's probably not inalignment.
And if it's not in alignment,who's shifting and does it
matter?
You just need to shift whereyou're being called to shift.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yes, matter.
You just need to shift whereyou're being called to shift.
Yes, and it's also learning tohonor and stand up for yourself.
Because being alone is not anegative thing.
It it can be a completelybeautiful thing.
I mean, I you're going to laughat this, but there was many
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periods of my life when I wassingle.
I would not date for like twoyears or something and people
thought I was nuts.
And I had one friend when I wasa single mom that she had men
coming in revolving door,revolving door and her daughter.
One time we were having dinner.
(20:26):
She said I know when a man'sgoing to leave my mommy and I
said when, when do you know?
And she said when he says he'sgoing to get a job.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Because he never comes back.
Wow, oh my gosh, that's apowerful statement.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
It is because she had men revolving in and out and in
and out.
And I told her, I said whatexample are you setting for your
daughter?
And I remember one time mylittle girl said to me mommy, I
want a daddy, I want a daddy.
You know, go out and get me adaddy.
And I told her I said well,sweetie, I could go out right
(21:06):
now and get you a daddy, noproblem at all.
But he not, might not be niceto me and he might not be kind
to you, and we'd be miserableinstead of happy right now.
Would you rather I take my timeand find the right daddy for
you?
Wouldn't that, you know, theright daddy for us?
Wouldn't that be better?
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And she thought about it andshe said yes, yes, yes, yes, yes
.
So then a month later she comesup to me and she says mommy,
I'm tired of waiting for a daddy.
Can you go get me a babybrother or sister?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Oh, that's hysterical .
Speaker 1 (21:43):
It was hysterical and I want to share this other one
when you were talking about, youknow, the woman's perspective
of you know, oh, I'll be alone,like you, which in her mind, was
a negative.
I remember one time being atthe gym and my son was probably
maybe five years old at the timeand I was a single mom, and
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this man came up to me and youknow, said, your son is so cute
and everything.
He is just like you know, doesyour husband come work out with
you?
And I said, no, I'm a singlemom.
And he immediately his facedropped and he said, oh, I'm
sorry for you.
And I looked at him and I said,actually you shouldn't be sorry
at all, cause I am so joyfuland so happy and free, because
(22:29):
he was not a nice person and soI would rather be single and
joyful than be with someone thatyou know ended up not being,
you know, nice to me and mykiddo in the end.
And the guy immediately justlike, was like shut up and
walked away.
Because that's like you know,if you're going to throw this at
me, I'm going to throw sometruth back at you.
(22:51):
My situation isn't as doom orgloom as you perceive it to be.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
And that goes back to you.
Know your path, your mission,your journey, that's yours, yes,
and not everyone.
If anyone is going tounderstand it and or agree with
it, because it wasn't given tothem and that even goes back to
you.
Know, if you are looking for ajob, a baby daddy, maybe a baby
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mommy, you know, whatever it is,a house, whatever, keep it
close to your heart, because noteveryone is your cheerleader
and I have learned that over theyears, accidentally and
purposefully, and it truly is.
You know, get married behindclosed doors, be happy behind
closed, you complete everythingyou want to do and then, when
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you're ready, then you letpeople know or then you invite
them out.
When you're good, when you havea solid foundation, when you
again feel empowered within,then you will allow people in
because, and especially now youknow again, not everyone is your
cheerleader, not even,unfortunately, not your family,
not your friends, not yourcoworkers, not even not even
(24:06):
your spouse, cause I'll I'llshare a story about that.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
There was a woman I was working with that had a high
executive job.
I was working with that had ahigh executive job at a major
hospital and she would drink twobottles of wine a night and she
wanted to stop.
And in her process of that, Itold her I want you to keep it a
secret.
I don't know why I was guidedto tell her that, but I want you
to keep this a secret becausethere might be a day that's
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going to happen and it's kind oflike I was picking up on it of
you've got to own it, you've gotto own this new change and you
got to set boundaries around itand own it.
So what happened?
She stopped drinking and it was, I think, about a month and a
half after that period.
Her husband came up to her andsaid hey, I noticed you're not
(24:57):
drinking anymore.
Did you join AA?
You know what'd you do?
And she said I did hypnotherapy.
And he started laughing in herface laughing, laughing.
You're stupid.
Oh my God, I can't believe youwasted your money on that.
How much did that cost you?
This is such a joke.
She started bawling and cryingand he was laughing even more
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and she told me.
I thought of that warning yougave me and I walked out of that
room and, trust me, carrie, Iwanted to drink so bad, but I
wasn't going to do it becausethen he would win and try to
destroy me.
And I remembered what you saidI need to stay empowered within,
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I need to believe in myself,and and so, yes, you are exactly
right, even people that youthink would support you
Sometimes they don't you to bereally mindful who you share
stuff with.
That's why, like I'veinterviewed many people that
have said oh, I just came out ofthe spiritual closet.
(26:04):
I had this intuitive gift forso many years and I couldn't
tell my family about this orsome of my friends about this,
you know, and I and I said, butthat's the beautiful thing is,
you're out.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Right, right and and there's still so many people you
know that aren't, and you know,use your spiritual gifts.
However.
You are divinely guided.
You don't need to have aflashing sign on a corner and be
a psychic.
Yes, you can work in a grocerystore as a cashier and you can
(26:42):
smile at people, and yourhealing energy is healing every
person that comes through yourline.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yes, and I would say, be, you know, sometimes a
little cautious about thatflashing light on the corner,
cause there was when I wasliving in a certain you know
town here in Oregon.
There was a person that put asign up that said she was a
psychic therapist, and so Iwanted to welcome her to the
(27:06):
community and I came in and shewas a charlatan, complete
charlatan, and I and I ended uptalking to some other friends
that were legit, had a spiritualcenter, and they told me oh man
, that woman, she, she knows howto influence people.
(27:28):
She got like $3,000 from thisone woman saying she was cursed.
I can break the curse and andit was just, it was crazy.
And that's where and I even dohave some recordings about
psychic hotlines, cause I hadone lady literally spend a
thousand dollars a month talkingto a psychic person.
(27:50):
I was like she is not yourfriend, you're paying her.
If it was a friend she wouldn'ttake your money, right, right,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, I mean you.
You do.
You have to.
Certainly I am incrediblycareful as to what energy and
who I let into my inner circle,whether that's even an
acupuncturist, a chiropractor, amassage therapist very, very
careful because their energy,you know those are very sensual
practices and people don't lookat it that way, but their energy
(28:21):
then mixes with your energy andwhen you walk out of that room
you've got to discern and clearand do all that stuff.
So I'm very, very careful aboutyou know the who, the where,
the what, and you know.
I think what's great about thisyear in particular is that
anything that is inauthentic inour worlds people, places and
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things or things is beingexposed.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Oh yes.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
So, whether you know the narcissist, forget about it.
This is the year, so anybodythat's been looking for you know
validation, or you finally wantto see karma?
Pop your popcorn and sit back.
It's coming, Don't you worryabout that.
And on all fronts personally,professionally, globally all of
that is happening and it isreally happening in the
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spiritual world.
And this, oh my God, carrie, Ihave to tell you I love, I have
to tell you I love.
So there's this one you're goingto love, this spiritual person
who definitely in the past, shehas appeared to be all that and
a bag of chips and probably somepopcorn too, and I was.
It was a wonderful experience.
Got to meet this person and Ithought, huh, I didn't quite
(29:30):
feel what I thought I was goingto feel Like I was like waiting
for the energy right, like I waslike, oh, this is there's going
to be like a big gem of anugget coming from this person.
To me Not so much.
She got some nuggets for me,though, and I thought this was
fascinating.
And then, as time went on, itstarted to unfold and I thought
something, a plus B is notequaling C here, yeah.
(29:52):
And then, all of a sudden, as weget closer to the sheer and the
energies, this person startsspouting off about how this is
the year.
If you haven't learned from me,if you haven't practiced from
me, you're not a real spiritualperson like blah, blah, blah.
All the truth is going to comeout this year the, you know, the
, the I don't want to say thereal ones, but those of the true
, of the higher vibration isgoing to come out versus those
(30:14):
that you know.
Maybe you're not, but the waythat she was leading it, I
literally sat there, wascracking up and I'm like she
literally doesn't evenunderstand that she's actually
warning people about herself inher messaging and I was like
blown away by it.
So I love this year being theyear numerology number nine.
Again, why I say it's soimportant to know everything you
(30:37):
know, know yourself, yournumerology, your human design,
all the jazz, your birth chart.
You don't have to understand it, but allow someone to help you
understand whom you are andembrace it.
This is the number nine yearfor the world's holy sweet jesus
.
So can imagine if, if youpersonally happen to be in the
number nine year I'm a numbernine.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
You have a number nine year, this year.
Well, no, I'm a number nine.
My name is.
Numerology is a number nine,yeah oh, wow, oh wow.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
So even that I mean.
Yeah, there's so much changeand disruption and, you know,
getting through the storm tofind the rainbow, looking for
the lesson and the blessing inevery moment.
Right now, head is on a, youknow, on a spiral, looking
around.
If you choose, or you can sortof just sit back, I would say
(31:24):
and, like, watch the tornadofrom a distance, yes, like watch
everything flying and go.
Okay, like we talkedpre-recording, you know.
I would say, like, do you haveskin in the game?
Because if you don't move along, that's not where your energy
is being being called to.
You may see something becauseyou need to be aware of it in
that moment and you may not knowwhy.
File it away.
(31:44):
It'll come back, you'llunderstand it at some point in
time, but keep moving.
And this is the year.
I mean, I love the energies ofthis year.
I now that I think about likeeverything it makes sense, like
where I'm at in life and howthings are transforming for me,
business-wise and personal wise,and I'm not even in a number
nine year.
I remember my last number nineyear, just for me personally.
(32:07):
Holy, sweet Jesus.
Like that was during thepandemic, that everything that
could happen in a number nineyear.
Darn well happened and some wowall of it.
Yeah, it was a great time welland it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
You know we were talking about intuitive hits and
then you brought up the subjectnarcissism.
I've shared this.
I've just started coming out ofthe closet, sharing this.
I'm angela Meyer.
I wrote the book the UndetectedNarcissist.
I did the podcast the UndetectedNarcissist for three years and
I was guided by spirit to writethat book because there's a
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painting that I hope I say hername right, akina, the one that
painted Jesus.
So, and God did because I wasready to quit my business.
(33:08):
I was really after the wholenarcissist experience.
I was ready to quit my business, this experience.
I was ready to quit my businessand God brought me a Catholic
nun that had PTSD and duringthat time I had PTSD and she's
the one that convinced me not togive up my work.
I mean cause she literally waslike no, god talks to you.
(33:32):
And so she showed me thatpainting by that artist and that
one of Jesus didn't speak to me.
The one that spoke to me wasthe one called the light and I
would look at that.
I bought the painting and Iwould look at it every day,
every day, every day, and Istarted to see a face appear in
the painting and it started totalk to me and I told sister
(33:53):
Miriam about it and she's likeoh my God, that's a sign from
God.
I have to see this painting.
I have to come over and see it.
And so she came over and shecouldn't see the face.
And I then said no, this is how, let me point it out to you.
And I said this is the eyes,that's the nose, the mouth.
She popped off my bed and saidoh my God, that's Archangel
(34:14):
Gabriel.
The mouth she popped off my bedand said oh my God, that's
Archangel Gabriel.
And I said to her how do youknow?
And she said God just told me.
And I was like you're correct,that's him.
And it was really justfascinating because I was even
(34:35):
one night lying in bed about todo this huge presentation, my
first public speaking aboutnarcissism, about how to
communicate with typical people,and my presentation was going
to be an hour long and 48 hoursbefore that I got a notice that
it was only going to be a halfan hour and I was lying in bed
going, god, how am I going to dothis, how am I going to do this
?
And God said you can do it ineight minutes, like that.
(34:58):
And I was like, how Are youserious?
And it's like yes, and Istarted downloading all this
information, all thisinformation.
You're going to draw this,You're going to talk about this.
When I got the big posterboards and I showed people this
is what I was guided to talkabout, everyone was like, oh my
(35:27):
God, that is incredible.
And I remember lying in bed onenight hearing that do you know
you, humans create narcissisticpeople.
And I was like what?
What?
No, no, no, no, no.
And it was like no, look it up.
And when I did the research, itwas a hundred percent correct.
And when I talked to apsychiatrist about it, he I
asked him that question do wecreate them?
He was like bingo, how did youknow?
(35:48):
And I wasn't going to tell him.
Oh, that was an intuitive hitfrom up above.
But that's where I was.
I was guided to write that bookand do the podcast, coming from
a place of love, wisdom,compassion and forgiveness,
because if we don't like thosepeople, we need to stop creating
them.
We do.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yeah, that's fascinating.
That's really fascinating thatyou went through all of that.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, and what was so bizarre and I did a podcast
about this when I was literallythere doing my speaking
engagement, a man walked in thatlooked just like my son's
father, exactly like him thesame built, hair color, facial
hair, all of that.
(36:37):
And I was like so scared, like,oh my God, how did he find me?
And it was so cool because thewoman that he came in with
walked up to my table and I saidwhat's that guy's name?
And and she told me and I waslike, but what was so cool is I
stood my ground and when I wasdriving home, god said to me you
(37:02):
passed the test, you can now beout in public and talk and you
don't have to be afraid any more.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Right, that's such a beautiful blessing.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, and a lot of people would be afraid, like one
woman said to me, because whenI told her she was in the booth
next to me, I'm like, oh my god,I think that's my ex.
She's like go run in thebathroom, go hide.
And I was like, no, I'm gonnastand my ground, I'm gonna sit
here.
You know, I'm being called tobe here.
This, this is what I'm going todo.
But yeah, I and that tookcourage, that was stepping out
(37:37):
of 3D human consciousness andinto 4D and like, no, I have
something to say and what I'mdoing is good for the world.
It's not bad.
I'm not bashing him or hatinghim.
I'm helping people understandhim and maybe if he ever reads
the book, he might understandhimself.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Mm-hmm Right, absolutely, that's so powerful.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
So, jennifer, I'm really curious about your
intuitive coaching, because tome that's the funnest thing to
do.
Tell me how that all works foryou.
Like your approach, like howdoes that, how does that all
work?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
so for me it actually came through pilates, was born
through my pilates, but pilatessession ultimately turned into
an intuitive reading, whichturned into intuitive coaching.
So that's how it was born andthe name has changed over the
years, whether it was mindsetcoaching or empowerment coaching
or based on what I was guidedin that moment and who was
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supposed to be drawn to it, orwho I was supposed to be drawing
to it, because not everybodylikes the word spiritual life
coach or whatever it may be.
And so, for me, generally, thepeople that I am attracting are
empaths and highly sensitivepeople who have been through
(39:05):
narcissistic abuse, toxicrelationships, toxic families,
have finally gotten to thatstage where they want to find
that empowerment within them.
They want to understand theirgifts, they want to understand
why they're here, they want tounderstand their mission, and so
that's really where I help andhold someone's hand and guide
(39:27):
them to whom they are and helpthem with the right tools so
that they understand why they'rehere, what is their mission,
help them with the right toolsso that they understand why
they're here, what is theirmission.
How can we lean more into lifeand lean out of the chaos?
Learning to heal from the PTSD,the CPTSD?
as well you know all of that.
So it varies based on theperson, of course, but at the
(39:50):
core of it we start with who areyou?
And it's interesting becauseit's just like if someone were
to come to me for my Pilatespractice, like you could come in
and you could say, oh, my righthip hurts, and I'd be like,
great, you know, can you walkacross the room and come back
for a minute?
Great.
And then suddenly I'm going tostart with, like, your arm, and
you're going to be like, but I'mhere for my hip, and I'm like,
yeah, I know, but your hip hastaken everything out of
(40:15):
alignment.
And so I'm going to start at,you know, one core area which is
going to help bring everythingback into alignment, and that's
my approach with the coaching.
So I always know why someone'scoming, why they've been
attracted to me, and sometimesthey don't know, but based on
you know, I can put their puzzlepiece together to understand.
And then we start at the coreof whom they are.
(40:35):
And then, as we grow out andthey really begin to understand
and embrace who they are, thendifferent things fall into
alignment.
And as things fall intoalignment, I also like to say
things fall out of someone'slife.
So suddenly the job that wasn'tin alignment life, so suddenly
(40:58):
the job that wasn't in alignment.
Now they have a new opportunity, the relationship that wasn't
going so great, well, now that'sover and someone new has come
in.
So it this beautiful rippleeffect that begins to happen
throughout someone's life, and Ijust find it.
It's so impactful and it issuch a gift and I'm sure you
understand this so much to bealong, to be a guide, to be an
advisor, to help someone on thatpath, to really shine that
(41:24):
light, to be that beacon so thatthey can find the light within
them.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yes, and it's interesting you say that because
when the Catholic nun, sisterMarion, came to see me, she
couldn't understand why some ofthe nuns were so mean and so
cruel to her.
And and I got the intuitive hitI where I said they're jealous
(41:50):
and envious of you because youlived, you were, you got married
, you had a son, you raised thatchild and then, when the child
got to a certain age, you join,you know, the monastery.
They went in in the beginningand I was like Ooh, and they all
have trauma.
(42:10):
There's ones that hoard it's,it's.
It blows people away when theyshow me stuff.
I'm like there's one woman, herroom is just so hoarded and I
started reading all thedifferent nuns and she was like,
oh, my gosh, how do you knowthis?
And I said, cause, that's whatyou know I'm being, I'm being
shown and I said so.
(42:31):
You need to develop love andcompassion for these women
because they wish deep down intheir heart they got married,
maybe, or they had a family, orwould their life be different if
they made other choices?
But they didn't.
Some of these women escapedabusive relationships.
They didn't want to get married.
(42:51):
They had traumatic home lifeexperience.
They struggled with work andcouldn't make a living.
And when I broke it all down shewas like yes, yes, yes.
And I said that's why a lot ofpeople don't join, you know,
become nuns anymore.
Because you know it's just,it's not in this.
(43:13):
I hate to say this, it's not away to escape reality and living
.
I said if someone's really goingto do it now, it's to be of
service, it's a calling and andit was interesting because she
would call me her spiritualadvisor and I'm and I'm just
like you can't say that around,you know you can't.
(43:35):
And she was like I know theywould, and she was like they'd
kick me out if they knew I wascoming to you for spiritual
advice.
And I said but all thisspiritual advice is healing you
and it's helping you shift yourconsciousness to where you don't
take it personally anymore andyou're not battling with these
(43:56):
nuns, you realize why they'restuck and you're this beam of
light and you're happy and it isbeautiful.
I mean, I'd say that is my mostfavorite thing to do is the
(44:17):
intuitive coaching, thespiritual coaching, because they
know more about us than we know.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Absolutely.
Yeah, it's a blessing and Ilove that every day is a new day
and you don't necessarily knowwhat is coming via the client
that's coming that day.
You know it's wonderful and forme, like I'm a life path number
five, like I need that.
I need that balance betweenadventure and the unknown and
(44:43):
the practicality of things, andso it fits quite well.
And the practicality of things,and so it fits quite well.
And, yeah, I just I love beinga part in being that spiritual
advisor, being that mentor,being that beacon of light to
watch other people find theirlight.
I mean, there's nothing moregratifying than that.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah, my nickname for the longest time was the
pinhole of light.
Yeah, my nickname for thelongest time was the pinhole of
light.
And one woman was like you're,no, you're, you're a lighthouse,
you're a lighthouse, you'rejust, you know.
But yeah it, it.
It's cool because and I'mcurious about this there have
been times where, before someoneeven shows up, I'm getting
(45:24):
intuitive hits about them.
It's like they're chatting away, chatting away, chatting away,
and so I can have this wholeinformation load about this
person.
And they show up and then I tryto see well, what are they
going to say?
I mean, to me that's always theinteresting part is really
(45:47):
being quiet and listening andhearing their story and figuring
out how invested they are intheir story and trying to, like
you said, the puzzle pieces,trying to put the puzzle pieces
you know of this and this andthis to um, to support them and
and to be of service.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Yeah, it's a beautiful blessing when you get
to the point of life when youhave your spiritual gifts and
you work with them and you leaninto them to understand that
they're a blessing, because longbefore they're a blessing, you
will think that they're a curse.
I don't know many people thatdon't.
Until you learn how to discernand work with your spirit guides
and with your spirit team andwith the gifts that you have, a
lot of people are overwhelmedand can't handle that.
(46:37):
So while we're talking abouthow wonderful and, you know,
amazing it is, you know BettyLou could be like well, I'm over
here, you know talking.
You know getting all thesedownloads and it's too much.
And to those people we say youknow, that's the time to learn
discernment, that's the time tolearn you know what are your
practices and how do youpractice protecting your energy
(46:58):
and being on versus not being on.
You know, and that's okay too.
And there are definitely timeswhere you know I have a
girlfriend who we could bewalking down the street and she
could see you two blocks awayand she will hunt you down to
deliver a message.
Now, I am not that person.
However, there have been times,like yesterday.
(47:20):
I was on the phone with agentleman from the car shop and
he began to tell me about hisdad that had passed away.
The car shop, and he began totell me about his dad that had
passed away.
And I'm like, oh, I was waitingfor it, you know.
And here comes his dad and I'mwaiting and I'm like do you, do
you want me to say something tohim?
Do you have a message?
And he was like no, he's like Ijust want him to feel my energy
through you.
And it was so beautiful and soimpactful, you know.
(47:45):
So it doesn't always have to bethat you're delivering, you
know, this wild, amazing message.
Sometimes it's just looking atsomeone and smiling at them.
That is the message that theyneeded in that moment.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah, or letting them know that there's signs and
that and that they willcommunicate to you through signs
if you ask for it, and that Ialways think is fascinating,
when you give them that littletidbit and then they get the
sign and they're like oh my God,I did happen.
(48:19):
That happened with one womanthat I was coaching up in Canada
.
Her father passed away from afreak accident and I told her no
, he's been trying tocommunicate with you through
signs.
And when she was a half an hourlater, she was vacuuming in her
house and she picked up amagazine and a little pamphlet
(48:40):
fell out and she picked it upand she read it and she started
crying.
She literally took a picture ofit.
It was a pendant that said Iwill never forget you, I'm
always with you, I always loveyou.
I mean, it was so beautiful.
And she was like yes, I got thesign, I got the message, and
(49:02):
they do, they do, and I got toshare this and I'm going to try
not to cry.
Sometimes it can feel like ablessing and a curse, because a
really good friend of minepassed away A really good friend
(49:26):
of mine, and what was weird ishe was here on a Monday and I
started reading him and I saidsomething to him where I'm like
do you know, you're slowly dyinginside, Do you know that?
And he said yes, and I wastalking to him because he was
(49:47):
really struggling with work, hishealth, all kinds of stuff.
And he said, yes, and I wastalking to him because he was
really struggling with work, hishealth, all kinds of stuff, and
he wasn't feeling good.
And I said you need to go tothe doctor, the urgent care, now
.
You need to go.
And he went and they said hehad gallstones.
But he also, um, his whiteblood cell platelets were really
low, it was at 30% and itshould have been at 100% and
(50:08):
they discharged him.
And then on Thursday he wassupposed to show up and work for
me he's my son's disabilitysupport worker and he sent me a
picture where he woke up andthere was blood in his mouth and
I was like, dude, go to thehospital now.
And he didn't go.
And that evening I even textedhim a message and I said what
(50:31):
did the doctor say?
Well, friday morning he wasrushed to ambulance, to the
(50:53):
hospital.
He we still don't know whathappened to 50% and when they
finally did surgery Saturdaymorning on his brain.
He was a vegetable and they hadto pull the plug and I cried.
I was just like I knew it andit's hard, you know, when you
have those intuitive hits thatsomeone is going and we can
(51:18):
struggle with it, where we don'twant to really believe it.
No, no, no, no, no.
But it's weird because in myroom I have this painting by the
same artist, called Welcome,and to me that is the image of
being up in heaven and it wasvibrating and it was pulsating
(51:39):
in front of me and he was in theroom right next to me and to me
that meant it was callingsomeone home.
It was calling someone home andthat's when I started reading
him and telling him all this.
It's like it just came rightthrough.
Tell him this and and I've hadto make you know peace with that
(52:03):
Cause, I mean, of course it was.
You know it was really hardthat.
Yeah, he actually did passSaturday.
We went to his celebration oflife.
But the real nice thing is theday after he passed.
When I woke up in the morning,the first thing I saw was his
smiling, beaming face at me hissmiling, beaming face at me, and
(52:31):
I knew he was okay, that he wasin a better place and that he
it was his time to go.
And he was, he was ready for it.
And it's hard to say that hewas 37.
So hard to say that, so young.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Yeah, oh, I'm so sorry, but the blessing is that
you did deliver the message andhe did heed it and he went to
the doctors.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
Yeah, yeah, and I mean and that is a blessing that
he did hear it and he did heedit and he did go, and I have to
forgive the doctor that you knowdid not admit him to the
hospital because, cause, when hewas there in the hospital on
Friday, the doctor there waslike, why wasn't he admitted on
Monday?
Why?
(53:14):
Why did they release him?
Yeah, and and so there are sometimes, like even with our own,
you know health, I tell peopleget a second opinion.
Seriously, if your gut istelling you that's your
intuition, your gut is tellingyou, no, I need a second opinion
(53:34):
.
Go get it, do it, cause I yeah,it's really important I
wouldn't have kids if I didn'tlisten to someone's you know
intuitive hit advice about mewhen I was younger, cause I got
a really bad infection and and Ididn't know how serious it was
until I went to the doctor andhe was like, if you would have
waited a week longer, you neverwould have had kids, and it's
(53:59):
like wow.
So sometimes we need to reallystop and go within and ask
ourselves you know, what shouldI do?
And listen to that guidance andlisten to that you know that
intuition, because when wesecond guess it, then you could
regret it, because that that wasa blessing that you were being
(54:22):
given.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Absolutely, and it's.
It's a muscle, just likeanything else that needs to be
trained, yes, and the more thatyou work with it, the more that
you will build the trust.
Yes, more that you'll feelcomfortable leaning into it.
And between point A and point B, that's when I suggest journal,
journal down those signs.
You know, journal it all.
(54:45):
You can review it, you can goback and see what resonates with
you.
You feel confident in yourselfand it's okay to you know, maybe
get a validation from someoneelse, but truly you want to be
listening to you.
You the best, you the best.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
Yes, that's, that's a hundred percent.
I fully, I fully agree withthat.
And that's why, like one friendwas asking me, like there's
moments where she was like Idon't get these intuitive hits.
I don't get these intuitivehits, why, why?
Why, and I said, when you'restuck in the levels of 3D human
(55:27):
consciousness, they can't reallytalk to you.
You have to think about it iswhen you calm yourself down and
you're at neutrality, which is250 in the state of human
consciousness, that's when theycan talk to you but they can't
communicate or get through.
When you're stuck in anger orhatred or despair or any of that
(55:51):
, you need to raise yourself upand realize that that's where
your happiness is, is up here.
It's not, you know, down there.
And a lot of people would alwayssay you know well why is desire
bad?
Why is desire bad?
Because desire is in the areaof 125.
(56:15):
And I said because that's greedand that's lust and people are
disposable and it's where you'rehungry for attention, you're
yearning for sexual approval.
There's vanity, enslavement,adrenaline, junkies.
You know unsatisfied cravings.
You're always disappointed.
When you're with someone, youwant them to love you
(56:38):
unconditionally and accept youand embrace you.
You don't want someone that'sgoing to superficially be your
friend and then the next dayghost you.
We see that all the time andthat's why I think more people
are seeking an emotionalconnection first over the
physical, because the physicalone is the lust.
(57:01):
You know and yes, we all have,you know needs, but you got to
think about it like how you justsaid, about you know getting a
massage and everything.
You're letting someone in yourspace and you should honor and
protect your space in a waywhere this is your temple.
(57:22):
It's not a dumpster, it's atemple.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
Absolutely, absolutely.
You want to keep your energyyours.
Yeah, you want to be verycareful whose energy you engage
with.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
Yes, you do, and that's why I tell people, you
know, be that quiet observer,you know, really become
self-aware, listen to whatthey're saying, really, really
listen and figure out.
You know where they're at wherethey're at with money, where
they're at with theirrelationship, with their friends
and family, with their career,because they'll tell you
(57:58):
everything.
They'll, you know, they'll laytheir cards out on the table if
you really know how to listen.
Absolutely, absolutely, yeah.
Well, jennifer, this has beensuch a gift.
I am so excited.
I've been wanting, I've beenliterally giddy for weeks, going
, oh, I can't wait to talk toher.
(58:19):
I can't wait to talk to her.
Yeah, so where can people findyou?
Social media website, youtube,tell, tell everyone.
Speaker 2 (58:29):
Best place to find me is my website, which is
jenniferpilatescom.
You head there.
You will find everything fromthe YouTube channel to the
podcast, to the coaching, to thereadings, to the Pilates
everything.
So head right there tojenniferpilatescom.
Feel free to send a message.
I will be happy to continuethis conversation and chat more,
and happy to explore and be thebeacon of light that you might
(58:50):
need.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
Awesome.
Thank you so much and I willinclude all of your links and
everything in the podcast.
So thank you.
Thank you, Jennifer.
Many blessings to you.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (59:04):
All right, have a great day.
Hello everyone, this is your host, Keri Logan at
Master of the Upper Rooms, and Iam so excited, so excited to be
talking with Jennifer today.
And why I'm excited to talk toher is her podcast is the name
of one of my websites, empoweredWithin.
And what I want to share reallyquickly before I bring her in
(00:26):
is you know, I always talk abouthuman consciousness and if I
was stuck in 3D humanconsciousness, I'd be mad at her
, I'd be jealous and envious andI'd be like you stole my name.
But I'm not.
I am so grateful and so joyfuland ecstatic to talk to her
today because she's doingwonderful things for humanity
(00:51):
and this world.
And what was so cool, when wewere talking before I hit record
, god gave her that name and Godgave me that name for my
website over 20 years ago.
So we're going to dive in andlearn all about Jennifer today.
And I'm just over the moon.
You can see I'm just like aboutto jump out of my seat and go
(01:12):
yay, yay, yay.
So, jennifer, welcome to Masterthe Upper Rooms.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Thank you so much for having me.
I'm so excited.
Finally, after all these years,we've our paths have crossed
and we're here together.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yes, it's so cool, so tell me about yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So, oh my gosh, like that's such a loaded question.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I know Loaded question.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Well, like you, I have been doing my practice for
gosh.
It's 25 plus years now.
Someone said that's two decades.
I'm like, oh my goodness.
So for two decades I've been inthe holistic practice industry,
from rehabilitative Pilates toReiki, healing, to being an
intuitive medium all of thethings.
(01:54):
And one thing has, you know,come into another and into
another, and the beauty of itall is truly being able to help
people transform from within andto find their empowerment
within.
I'm not here to give it to you.
I'm here to light you up, sothat you can feel what's within
you, and to me, that is one ofthe best gifts of all.
(02:17):
And so, whether that comesthrough Pilates training,
whether that comes throughspiritual coaching, whether
that's mindset, whether that'sReiki, whether that's a reading,
it's just that it comes throughand that is so important to be
of service and to be able tohelp so many people and to have
been given the gifts and theability to help on so many
different levels which have comeover the 25 years.
(02:39):
It all started with my Pilatespractice many, many moons ago,
and everything has just expandedsince then so I'm very blessed
and then expanded into thepodcast which we were just
talking about I was going to befour years old I can't even
believe it in May, which is soamazing, I know, so amazing.
So I feel so grateful every dayand so blessed to be able to
(03:02):
show up and help people throughvarious platforms like yourself,
whether that's podcasting orYouTube or all this stuff.
It's just that's what I livefor.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yes, and I think it's really interesting how getting
those intuitive hits becausehits?
Because it never came to myawareness to do a podcast for
Empowered Within.
It never did.
I created a YouTube channel,you know, for how you're being
(03:47):
called to be of service and alot of people can be kind of
confused like, well, I don'tknow about this, I don't know
about that, but when you getthat intuitive hit, it's to me,
it's like the cherry on top tome.
(04:08):
It's like the cherry on top.
It really is, and you're beingcalled by something higher than
you.
You're not questioning it,you're not doubting it, you're
not dismissing it.
So maybe to help some peopleunderstand, when you started
getting intuitive hits, how wasthat for you?
Was it weird?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Tell me your journey on that well, it started very
young for me.
So, being an empath and havingkind of grown up in sort of a
tumultuous situation, I alwaysjust sort of knew things.
People didn't necessarilylisten to me, but I had a lot to
say and I can remember.
You can go back to like being alittle kid with my report cards
and what was that was alwayssaid about me she talks too much
(04:44):
, she talks too much.
And I always say, well, ifpeople would have listened,
probably a lot of lives would bedifferent these days.
Yeah, so, um, subtle things.
Right, like I just didn't.
There's a beauty in being naivebefore you understand your
spiritual journey.
Yes, so I would say at somepoint, I just, I, I really just,
(05:05):
oh, like, take a right turn.
Okay, take a right turn.
Oh, look what I found down thisroad.
Or it was just very easy, and Iwould say there are times
before I knew, or before I was,who I am today, that I was
probably even way more spiritualor way more open than I am
today, in different ways and indifferent facets, and that's
(05:30):
what I find, when I look backover the journey, to be so
incredible.
Now it is like I just signs areeverywhere and now it's about
discerning well, what sign hasweight, yes, and what is just
sort of something that's comingby, especially right now.
Two retrogrades, you know, inbetween two eclipses, like this
(05:50):
is not a time for answers, youknow.
So it's this.
Would you know?
This is a huge journaling timewrite down all the signs and
then in another two, three weeks, what still has weight, what is
still there.
And so there's that learningcurve over the years.
I love it, though you know itstarts out with little things
and little things become bighits.
And you know, like, getting backto the podcast, I happen to be
(06:11):
working with Tony Robbins at thetime.
We were doing intense threedays work, four days work, I
forget it was very intense andit literally broke me down.
But it broke me down to theplace to find my empowered self
within, and that's literally howthe pod you know to give like.
That was huge.
(06:31):
I didn't even know what apodcast was, by the way, I had
never even listened to a podcast.
I was told I was going to do apodcast.
I was told the name, I was ableto buy a microphone and then I
was said, I was told, let it sit, it's not the time yet and I
was caretaking for family and itit's all sat there for like six
(06:53):
months, wow.
So it's just beautiful when youcan lean in or be aware.
Or like last winter I was inSouth Carolina and I'd met these
lovely neighbors and they knewthat I taught Pilates and that I
really wasn't doing it.
I was just doing my virtualtraining with clients.
And then one day the woman cameover and said can we have a cup
of tea?
Okay, that's odd, I never havesomeone like in my home.
But okay, and she looked at meand she goes so when are you
(07:15):
going to start working at theYMCA here?
And I was like I mean, youcouldn't hit me over the head
harder if you wanted.
I couldn't hit me over the headharder if you wanted.
I heard the message and I waslike, well, I guess I'll walk
over tomorrow and kind of checkit out.
And lo and behold, that's whereI was needed.
I was needed to help themchange their program.
(07:35):
I was there for a period of timeand then I exited.
Yeah, you know, and I thinkthat when we're able to
understand who we are meaningwho are you, why are you here,
what is your numerology, what isyour human design, what is your
mission, when you know that,then you can really embrace it
and you can be more in the flowthan getting caught up and
(07:55):
tripped up in the 3D world, soto speak.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yes, yeah, because my kiddo, who's 17 17, he always
talks about signs and he'll seelike numbers three, three, three
or 12, 12 or 11, 11, and he'lllook it up and it's so.
I find it so cool and he'slearning how to listen to his
(08:23):
intuitive hits.
And I got to say this.
I mean, I wish my mom was thatway and my mom did have a
spiritual background.
But where we're at now in ourworld, really listening to those
intuitive hits are amazing.
Because the same for me.
One day I was told, you know,by up above that you're going to
(08:49):
start a podcast and you'regoing to teach master the upper
rooms and you're going to teachhuman consciousness and, like
they said to me, we want you tocreate these images, literally
make a whole.
You know three different pagesof.
This is 3D, human consciousness.
This is 4D, this is 5D and wewant you to do this.
(09:09):
And it's really cool when youget that calling and at times,
some people, we can fight it,and other times we have to learn
to honor it and respect it.
Because for me and I made aYouTube video about how I became
(09:31):
a hypnotherapist and when I wasabout to become homeless with
my daughter that was inkindergarten.
At the time, I was told that,no, you're going to move back to
California.
The perfect job is waitingthere for you.
It's what you were meant to do.
(09:51):
You know born to do.
It's waiting there and, like alot of people, I didn't want to
listen.
I was stuck in fear.
But I had to get over it and Idid, and here I am today.
If I did not make that choiceand listen to that guidance, my
life would be completelydifferent, completely different.
(10:14):
And so it's really learning howto trust and surrender to what
you're, you're hearing andsometimes, like, even if you're
in a really bad, toxicrelationship and you calm down
and you're talking to God, youwill be guided out of that
(10:35):
situation.
You know, and maybe what youneed to, you know, I was in a
situation, I remember, with mydaughter and her father, with
all the legal stuff, and I wasabout to, you know, I could lose
custody of her and I wasfighting, fighting, fighting.
And that night, as I was praying, I completely surrendered
(10:59):
everything and saw myself jumpinto the void and I was just
like, just take me, you know thehighest, into the void.
And I was just like, just takeme, you know the highest and the
best.
And the very next day he calledme up and said I've been trying
for weeks to talk to you aboutthis.
I don't want to fight anymoreand I am willing to stop hurting
you and her If you give up thechild support.
(11:21):
That's all he wanted.
I will waive all my parentalrights and do this.
And I thought to myself there isno price tag on my daughter
none.
And I willingly did it.
I said yes, and that was theanswer I needed, and I had to
let go my control and anger and,wanting to prove him wrong and
(11:44):
wanting to fight, I had tocompletely surrender and rise
all the way up to neutrality, towhere I could just be content
and satisfied.
And in that space the answercame up and it was.
You know, it can be fast.
As you know we can get likehits, like that.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Oh, I love the ones.
I love that you just said this.
So earlier today, before thepodcast, I was upstairs and I
was looking for a top and I wasin my closet.
I'm like God, I'm like, is itpacked, is it not?
And I heard, like it's notthere, it's in the dresser.
And I'm like, are you sure?
Like, like who am I to judge?
(12:30):
You know?
Like, like I'm questioningspirit.
Yeah, so then I go over and Igo, oh, look, you're, you're
right, it was here.
And I go, how come, spirit, youcan give me this tank top like
this?
But the other questions I'masking for right now, oh, no, no
, no, that nope, nope, thatcould be, that could be another
12 months, jennifer, we don'tknow.
That could be another month ortwo, that.
So, like I had to have a jokeand go how funny that.
Like I asked for that and yougave me that.
But if it's something that'sbigger, and I think that goes
back to divine timing and itgoes back to not rushing your
(12:54):
timing of life.
So you have a timing of life andthen there's divine timing and
you find out and you learn moreabout your lifetime, your timing
of life when you understand,going back to who are you again
and why are you here and what isyour mission?
You know, on this school earth,here, that we're learning,
because you know, again, this isone of the planets that, like
(13:16):
you're a badass, especially ifyou're here right now, in this
time, like you didn't get hereby accident, you chose to be
here, oh yeah, now you have tounderstand like, well, why are
you here, and really level upfor that, and I think that
that's one thing that you knowwe all can go back and forth
with and have moments, because Ithink sometimes people think
(13:36):
like, oh, you know, I was teased, like, like I have a big,
life-size unicorn and I'm like,yes, like I need that.
But let me tell you, I know mydark equally as I know my light,
and that's what's mostimportant.
Like I have been through somuch darkness to be able to, yes
, embrace my unicorn, but I dareyou to cross my path at the
(13:57):
same time, because just becauseyou're a spiritual person and
just because you want to ride aunicorn doesn't mean that you're
not going to kick some seriousbutt along the way when lines
are crossed, and I think thatthat's something that needs to
be spoken about, that needs tobe educated, especially with
empaths and highly sensitivepeople who are people pleasers,
(14:19):
who don't understand healthyboundaries, who need to learn
healthy boundaries and thatthat's okay and that if someone
crosses that healthy boundary,it's okay to say no, that's not
okay.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
And that again goes back to wanting watching
something.
And he was talking about whatwas going on in the world and he
was just like scared.
And I said to him just likewhat you did?
You chose to come in at thistime and you knew there would be
great chaos.
But great chaos can creategreat change, because there are
(15:11):
structures that will collapse,so new ones, better ones, can be
rebuilt or you reorganize thestructure.
But you're here for a purposeand a reason, you know.
And it's like you got to getout of that victim mindset of
you know.
The world is just horrible.
And I said change your focus on.
(15:34):
Something good is going to comeout of this.
I don't know what it is, butsomething good is going to be
born and created out of this.
And I and I and I loved it toohow you were talking about the
intuitive hits Cause.
My daughter would tease me upand down I think she's like 27
(15:55):
right now and when she wouldmiss some, an item, she'd be
like mom, where is it?
And I would listen and like andthey would show me sometimes in
my mind's eye oh, it's upstairsin this drawer and dah, dah,
dah, dah.
And she'd go up.
She's like how do you know that?
How?
And I'm just like, cause theyjust told me and they just
showed me where it is, and it'sum, it's hard.
(16:18):
So when someone knows you cando that, they, they'll
constantly be like, okay,where's my keys?
You know where did I put this?
And it's just it's.
I think sometimes it'shilarious.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
It is hilarious, you know, and that's the thing.
Like we need to have morehilariousness in our every day.
You know, one of the things Ido every day is, I'm like, in
the mornings, you know, I gothrough my meditative practice
and I really, you know, setmyself up before I even interact
with any human beings, and oneof the things I always say in
the morning and at night, youknow, in the morning I'm like,
I'm so excited for all theamazing things that are going to
(16:52):
happen today.
And then at night I say I'm youknow, grateful for all of X, y
and Z that happened.
And then, I repeat, I'm soexcited for the amazing things
that are going to happentomorrow.
And let me tell you, when youdo that and you get into a
practice, you're beginning towork with your subconscious mind
and you bring good things in.
Like last night I sat down andI went wow, I'm like there
(17:13):
actually were a couple of good,cool, amazing things that
happened.
I'm not saying a milliondollars is dropping out of the
sky, because it's not going tohappen.
If you're not vibrating at thatlevel, if you're not magnetized
at that same place, it's notgoing to be there.
But it doesn't mean that youcan't win $100 off a lottery
ticket and if that's what youwin, then I want you to like
(17:33):
dance up and down and be superexcited because you have
probably a higher vibration thanyou even thought and
considering the people or placesand things around you, you know
it's a struggle some days tokeep your vibration up.
You know I don't know about youbut me, like I, I'm a pretty
introverted person.
People think I'm extrovertedand it may seem that way, but
(17:55):
I'm a homebody.
I love to be at home, I love tobe on the beach walking Like I
just like to.
I don't want to say be bymyself, because I'm never by
myself, because even when I'mwalking, you know, spirit is
with me and all my guides andangels are there and we're
having our meeting and et cetera, et cetera.
So I'm never alone.
But to the outside world itprobably appears that way.
Like I remember a friend oncesaid to me and she was miserable
(18:21):
in her marriage and justunhappy.
Things were just.
It was just not good.
And she had a lash out momentand she was like, wow, what do
you want me to be Alone, likeyou?
And I'm thinking you know whatit probably would do you some
good.
Now, being the good friend thatI was in that moment in time
and reading the room, I saidnothing, but you know what else?
(18:44):
I also never spoke to thatfriend again because I realized
at that moment in time there wasso much envy and jealous there
was nothing I could do right.
This had been going on for years.
She needed to walk that muckand maybe she'll walk out of it
and walk back into my life.
But for now I did all I coulddo in that part and I think that
that's something too, whenyou're on your spiritual path,
to understand it's okay to letpeople go and it's okay to let
(19:07):
new people in and it's okay towalk away, and that that is a is
a challenge, especially if,again, if you're an empath or a
highly sensitive person whoagain?
You're a people pleaser, you're, you know, you're wanting to
see the best, you've got thoserose-colored glasses on and you
need to have discernment andneed to understand that.
(19:29):
Oh okay, yeah, hmm, this isn'tfeeling so great anymore.
It's not feeling in alignment.
Then it's probably not inalignment.
And if it's not in alignment,who's shifting and does it
matter?
You just need to shift whereyou're being called to shift.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yes, matter.
You just need to shift whereyou're being called to shift.
Yes, and it's also learning tohonor and stand up for yourself.
Because being alone is not anegative thing.
It it can be a completelybeautiful thing.
I mean, I you're going to laughat this, but there was many
(20:06):
periods of my life when I wassingle.
I would not date for like twoyears or something and people
thought I was nuts.
And I had one friend when I wasa single mom that she had men
coming in revolving door,revolving door and her daughter.
One time we were having dinner.
(20:26):
She said I know when a man'sgoing to leave my mommy and I
said when, when do you know?
And she said when he says he'sgoing to get a job.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Because he never comes back.
Wow, oh my gosh, that's apowerful statement.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
It is because she had men revolving in and out and in
and out.
And I told her, I said whatexample are you setting for your
daughter?
And I remember one time mylittle girl said to me mommy, I
want a daddy, I want a daddy.
You know, go out and get me adaddy.
And I told her I said well,sweetie, I could go out right
(21:06):
now and get you a daddy, noproblem at all.
But he not, might not be niceto me and he might not be kind
to you, and we'd be miserableinstead of happy right now.
Would you rather I take my timeand find the right daddy for
you?
Wouldn't that, you know, theright daddy for us?
Wouldn't that be better?
(21:28):
And she thought about it andshe said yes, yes, yes, yes, yes
.
So then a month later she comesup to me and she says mommy,
I'm tired of waiting for a daddy.
Can you go get me a babybrother or sister?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Oh, that's hysterical .
Speaker 1 (21:43):
It was hysterical and I want to share this other one
when you were talking about, youknow, the woman's perspective
of you know, oh, I'll be alone,like you, which in her mind, was
a negative.
I remember one time being atthe gym and my son was probably
maybe five years old at the timeand I was a single mom, and
(22:05):
this man came up to me and youknow, said, your son is so cute
and everything.
He is just like you know, doesyour husband come work out with
you?
And I said, no, I'm a singlemom.
And he immediately his facedropped and he said, oh, I'm
sorry for you.
And I looked at him and I said,actually you shouldn't be sorry
at all, cause I am so joyfuland so happy and free, because
(22:29):
he was not a nice person and soI would rather be single and
joyful than be with someone thatyou know ended up not being,
you know, nice to me and mykiddo in the end.
And the guy immediately justlike, was like shut up and
walked away.
Because that's like you know,if you're going to throw this at
me, I'm going to throw sometruth back at you.
(22:51):
My situation isn't as doom orgloom as you perceive it to be.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
And that goes back to you.
Know your path, your mission,your journey, that's yours, yes,
and not everyone.
If anyone is going tounderstand it and or agree with
it, because it wasn't given tothem and that even goes back to
you.
Know, if you are looking for ajob, a baby daddy, maybe a baby
(23:20):
mommy, you know, whatever it is,a house, whatever, keep it
close to your heart, because noteveryone is your cheerleader
and I have learned that over theyears, accidentally and
purposefully, and it truly is.
You know, get married behindclosed doors, be happy behind
closed, you complete everythingyou want to do and then, when
(23:43):
you're ready, then you letpeople know or then you invite
them out.
When you're good, when you havea solid foundation, when you
again feel empowered within,then you will allow people in
because, and especially now youknow again, not everyone is your
cheerleader, not even,unfortunately, not your family,
not your friends, not yourcoworkers, not even not even
(24:06):
your spouse, cause I'll I'llshare a story about that.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
There was a woman I was working with that had a high
executive job.
I was working with that had ahigh executive job at a major
hospital and she would drink twobottles of wine a night and she
wanted to stop.
And in her process of that, Itold her I want you to keep it a
secret.
I don't know why I was guidedto tell her that, but I want you
to keep this a secret becausethere might be a day that's
(24:35):
going to happen and it's kind oflike I was picking up on it of
you've got to own it, you've gotto own this new change and you
got to set boundaries around itand own it.
So what happened?
She stopped drinking and it was, I think, about a month and a
half after that period.
Her husband came up to her andsaid hey, I noticed you're not
(24:57):
drinking anymore.
Did you join AA?
You know what'd you do?
And she said I did hypnotherapy.
And he started laughing in herface laughing, laughing.
You're stupid.
Oh my God, I can't believe youwasted your money on that.
How much did that cost you?
This is such a joke.
She started bawling and cryingand he was laughing even more
(25:21):
and she told me.
I thought of that warning yougave me and I walked out of that
room and, trust me, carrie, Iwanted to drink so bad, but I
wasn't going to do it becausethen he would win and try to
destroy me.
And I remembered what you saidI need to stay empowered within,
(25:42):
I need to believe in myself,and and so, yes, you are exactly
right, even people that youthink would support you
Sometimes they don't you to bereally mindful who you share
stuff with.
That's why, like I'veinterviewed many people that
have said oh, I just came out ofthe spiritual closet.
(26:04):
I had this intuitive gift forso many years and I couldn't
tell my family about this orsome of my friends about this,
you know, and I and I said, butthat's the beautiful thing is,
you're out.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Right, right and and there's still so many people you
know that aren't, and you know,use your spiritual gifts.
However.
You are divinely guided.
You don't need to have aflashing sign on a corner and be
a psychic.
Yes, you can work in a grocerystore as a cashier and you can
(26:42):
smile at people, and yourhealing energy is healing every
person that comes through yourline.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yes, and I would say, be, you know, sometimes a
little cautious about thatflashing light on the corner,
cause there was when I wasliving in a certain you know
town here in Oregon.
There was a person that put asign up that said she was a
psychic therapist, and so Iwanted to welcome her to the
(27:06):
community and I came in and shewas a charlatan, complete
charlatan, and I and I ended uptalking to some other friends
that were legit, had a spiritualcenter, and they told me oh man
, that woman, she, she knows howto influence people.
(27:28):
She got like $3,000 from thisone woman saying she was cursed.
I can break the curse and andit was just, it was crazy.
And that's where and I even dohave some recordings about
psychic hotlines, cause I hadone lady literally spend a
thousand dollars a month talkingto a psychic person.
(27:50):
I was like she is not yourfriend, you're paying her.
If it was a friend she wouldn'ttake your money, right, right,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, I mean you.
You do.
You have to.
Certainly I am incrediblycareful as to what energy and
who I let into my inner circle,whether that's even an
acupuncturist, a chiropractor, amassage therapist very, very
careful because their energy,you know those are very sensual
practices and people don't lookat it that way, but their energy
(28:21):
then mixes with your energy andwhen you walk out of that room
you've got to discern and clearand do all that stuff.
So I'm very, very careful aboutyou know the who, the where,
the what, and you know.
I think what's great about thisyear in particular is that
anything that is inauthentic inour worlds people, places and
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things or things is beingexposed.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Oh yes.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
So, whether you know the narcissist, forget about it.
This is the year, so anybodythat's been looking for you know
validation, or you finally wantto see karma?
Pop your popcorn and sit back.
It's coming, Don't you worryabout that.
And on all fronts personally,professionally, globally all of
that is happening and it isreally happening in the
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spiritual world.
And this, oh my God, carrie, Ihave to tell you I love, I have
to tell you I love.
So there's this one you're goingto love, this spiritual person
who definitely in the past, shehas appeared to be all that and
a bag of chips and probably somepopcorn too, and I was.
It was a wonderful experience.
Got to meet this person and Ithought, huh, I didn't quite
(29:30):
feel what I thought I was goingto feel Like I was like waiting
for the energy right, like I waslike, oh, this is there's going
to be like a big gem of anugget coming from this person.
To me Not so much.
She got some nuggets for me,though, and I thought this was
fascinating.
And then, as time went on, itstarted to unfold and I thought
something, a plus B is notequaling C here, yeah.
(29:52):
And then, all of a sudden, as weget closer to the sheer and the
energies, this person startsspouting off about how this is
the year.
If you haven't learned from me,if you haven't practiced from
me, you're not a real spiritualperson like blah, blah, blah.
All the truth is going to comeout this year the, you know, the
, the I don't want to say thereal ones, but those of the true
, of the higher vibration isgoing to come out versus those
(30:14):
that you know.
Maybe you're not, but the waythat she was leading it, I
literally sat there, wascracking up and I'm like she
literally doesn't evenunderstand that she's actually
warning people about herself inher messaging and I was like
blown away by it.
So I love this year being theyear numerology number nine.
Again, why I say it's soimportant to know everything you
(30:37):
know, know yourself, yournumerology, your human design,
all the jazz, your birth chart.
You don't have to understand it, but allow someone to help you
understand whom you are andembrace it.
This is the number nine yearfor the world's holy sweet jesus
.
So can imagine if, if youpersonally happen to be in the
number nine year I'm a numbernine.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
You have a number nine year, this year.
Well, no, I'm a number nine.
My name is.
Numerology is a number nine,yeah oh, wow, oh wow.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
So even that I mean.
Yeah, there's so much changeand disruption and, you know,
getting through the storm tofind the rainbow, looking for
the lesson and the blessing inevery moment.
Right now, head is on a, youknow, on a spiral, looking
around.
If you choose, or you can sortof just sit back, I would say
(31:24):
and, like, watch the tornadofrom a distance, yes, like watch
everything flying and go.
Okay, like we talkedpre-recording, you know.
I would say, like, do you haveskin in the game?
Because if you don't move along, that's not where your energy
is being being called to.
You may see something becauseyou need to be aware of it in
that moment and you may not knowwhy.
File it away.
(31:44):
It'll come back, you'llunderstand it at some point in
time, but keep moving.
And this is the year.
I mean, I love the energies ofthis year.
I now that I think about likeeverything it makes sense, like
where I'm at in life and howthings are transforming for me,
business-wise and personal wise,and I'm not even in a number
nine year.
I remember my last number nineyear, just for me personally.
(32:07):
Holy, sweet Jesus.
Like that was during thepandemic, that everything that
could happen in a number nineyear.
Darn well happened and some wowall of it.
Yeah, it was a great time welland it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
You know we were talking about intuitive hits and
then you brought up the subjectnarcissism.
I've shared this.
I've just started coming out ofthe closet, sharing this.
I'm angela Meyer.
I wrote the book the UndetectedNarcissist.
I did the podcast the UndetectedNarcissist for three years and
I was guided by spirit to writethat book because there's a
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painting that I hope I say hername right, akina, the one that
painted Jesus.
So, and God did because I wasready to quit my business.
(33:08):
I was really after the wholenarcissist experience.
I was ready to quit my business, this experience.
I was ready to quit my businessand God brought me a Catholic
nun that had PTSD and duringthat time I had PTSD and she's
the one that convinced me not togive up my work.
I mean cause she literally waslike no, god talks to you.
(33:32):
And so she showed me thatpainting by that artist and that
one of Jesus didn't speak to me.
The one that spoke to me wasthe one called the light and I
would look at that.
I bought the painting and Iwould look at it every day,
every day, every day, and Istarted to see a face appear in
the painting and it started totalk to me and I told sister
(33:53):
Miriam about it and she's likeoh my God, that's a sign from
God.
I have to see this painting.
I have to come over and see it.
And so she came over and shecouldn't see the face.
And I then said no, this is how, let me point it out to you.
And I said this is the eyes,that's the nose, the mouth.
She popped off my bed and saidoh my God, that's Archangel
(34:14):
Gabriel.
The mouth she popped off my bedand said oh my God, that's
Archangel Gabriel.
And I said to her how do youknow?
And she said God just told me.
And I was like you're correct,that's him.
And it was really justfascinating because I was even
(34:35):
one night lying in bed about todo this huge presentation, my
first public speaking aboutnarcissism, about how to
communicate with typical people,and my presentation was going
to be an hour long and 48 hoursbefore that I got a notice that
it was only going to be a halfan hour and I was lying in bed
going, god, how am I going to dothis, how am I going to do this
?
And God said you can do it ineight minutes, like that.
(34:58):
And I was like, how Are youserious?
And it's like yes, and Istarted downloading all this
information, all thisinformation.
You're going to draw this,You're going to talk about this.
When I got the big posterboards and I showed people this
is what I was guided to talkabout, everyone was like, oh my
(35:27):
God, that is incredible.
And I remember lying in bed onenight hearing that do you know
you, humans create narcissisticpeople.
And I was like what?
What?
No, no, no, no, no.
And it was like no, look it up.
And when I did the research, itwas a hundred percent correct.
And when I talked to apsychiatrist about it, he I
asked him that question do wecreate them?
He was like bingo, how did youknow?
(35:48):
And I wasn't going to tell him.
Oh, that was an intuitive hitfrom up above.
But that's where I was.
I was guided to write that bookand do the podcast, coming from
a place of love, wisdom,compassion and forgiveness,
because if we don't like thosepeople, we need to stop creating
them.
We do.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yeah, that's fascinating.
That's really fascinating thatyou went through all of that.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, and what was so bizarre and I did a podcast
about this when I was literallythere doing my speaking
engagement, a man walked in thatlooked just like my son's
father, exactly like him thesame built, hair color, facial
hair, all of that.
(36:37):
And I was like so scared, like,oh my God, how did he find me?
And it was so cool because thewoman that he came in with
walked up to my table and I saidwhat's that guy's name?
And and she told me and I waslike, but what was so cool is I
stood my ground and when I wasdriving home, god said to me you
(37:02):
passed the test, you can now beout in public and talk and you
don't have to be afraid any more.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Right, that's such a beautiful blessing.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, and a lot of people would be afraid, like one
woman said to me, because whenI told her she was in the booth
next to me, I'm like, oh my god,I think that's my ex.
She's like go run in thebathroom, go hide.
And I was like, no, I'm gonnastand my ground, I'm gonna sit
here.
You know, I'm being called tobe here.
This, this is what I'm going todo.
But yeah, I and that tookcourage, that was stepping out
(37:37):
of 3D human consciousness andinto 4D and like, no, I have
something to say and what I'mdoing is good for the world.
It's not bad.
I'm not bashing him or hatinghim.
I'm helping people understandhim and maybe if he ever reads
the book, he might understandhimself.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Mm-hmm Right, absolutely, that's so powerful.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
So, jennifer, I'm really curious about your
intuitive coaching, because tome that's the funnest thing to
do.
Tell me how that all works foryou.
Like your approach, like howdoes that, how does that all
work?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
so for me it actually came through pilates, was born
through my pilates, but pilatessession ultimately turned into
an intuitive reading, whichturned into intuitive coaching.
So that's how it was born andthe name has changed over the
years, whether it was mindsetcoaching or empowerment coaching
or based on what I was guidedin that moment and who was
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supposed to be drawn to it, orwho I was supposed to be drawing
to it, because not everybodylikes the word spiritual life
coach or whatever it may be.
And so, for me, generally, thepeople that I am attracting are
empaths and highly sensitivepeople who have been through
(39:05):
narcissistic abuse, toxicrelationships, toxic families,
have finally gotten to thatstage where they want to find
that empowerment within them.
They want to understand theirgifts, they want to understand
why they're here, they want tounderstand their mission, and so
that's really where I help andhold someone's hand and guide
(39:27):
them to whom they are and helpthem with the right tools so
that they understand why they'rehere, what is their mission,
help them with the right toolsso that they understand why
they're here, what is theirmission.
How can we lean more into lifeand lean out of the chaos?
Learning to heal from the PTSD,the CPTSD?
as well you know all of that.
So it varies based on theperson, of course, but at the
(39:50):
core of it we start with who areyou?
And it's interesting becauseit's just like if someone were
to come to me for my Pilatespractice, like you could come in
and you could say, oh, my righthip hurts, and I'd be like,
great, you know, can you walkacross the room and come back
for a minute?
Great.
And then suddenly I'm going tostart with, like, your arm, and
you're going to be like, but I'mhere for my hip, and I'm like,
yeah, I know, but your hip hastaken everything out of
(40:15):
alignment.
And so I'm going to start at,you know, one core area which is
going to help bring everythingback into alignment, and that's
my approach with the coaching.
So I always know why someone'scoming, why they've been
attracted to me, and sometimesthey don't know, but based on
you know, I can put their puzzlepiece together to understand.
And then we start at the coreof whom they are.
(40:35):
And then, as we grow out andthey really begin to understand
and embrace who they are, thendifferent things fall into
alignment.
And as things fall intoalignment, I also like to say
things fall out of someone'slife.
So suddenly the job that wasn'tin alignment life, so suddenly
(40:58):
the job that wasn't in alignment.
Now they have a new opportunity, the relationship that wasn't
going so great, well, now that'sover and someone new has come
in.
So it this beautiful rippleeffect that begins to happen
throughout someone's life, and Ijust find it.
It's so impactful and it issuch a gift and I'm sure you
understand this so much to bealong, to be a guide, to be an
advisor, to help someone on thatpath, to really shine that
(41:24):
light, to be that beacon so thatthey can find the light within
them.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yes, and it's interesting you say that because
when the Catholic nun, sisterMarion, came to see me, she
couldn't understand why some ofthe nuns were so mean and so
cruel to her.
And and I got the intuitive hitI where I said they're jealous
(41:50):
and envious of you because youlived, you were, you got married
, you had a son, you raised thatchild and then, when the child
got to a certain age, you join,you know, the monastery.
They went in in the beginningand I was like Ooh, and they all
have trauma.
(42:10):
There's ones that hoard it's,it's.
It blows people away when theyshow me stuff.
I'm like there's one woman, herroom is just so hoarded and I
started reading all thedifferent nuns and she was like,
oh, my gosh, how do you knowthis?
And I said, cause, that's whatyou know I'm being, I'm being
shown and I said so.
(42:31):
You need to develop love andcompassion for these women
because they wish deep down intheir heart they got married,
maybe, or they had a family, orwould their life be different if
they made other choices?
But they didn't.
Some of these women escapedabusive relationships.
They didn't want to get married.
(42:51):
They had traumatic home lifeexperience.
They struggled with work andcouldn't make a living.
And when I broke it all down shewas like yes, yes, yes.
And I said that's why a lot ofpeople don't join, you know,
become nuns anymore.
Because you know it's just,it's not in this.
(43:13):
I hate to say this, it's not away to escape reality and living
.
I said if someone's really goingto do it now, it's to be of
service, it's a calling and andit was interesting because she
would call me her spiritualadvisor and I'm and I'm just
like you can't say that around,you know you can't.
(43:35):
And she was like I know theywould, and she was like they'd
kick me out if they knew I wascoming to you for spiritual
advice.
And I said but all thisspiritual advice is healing you
and it's helping you shift yourconsciousness to where you don't
take it personally anymore andyou're not battling with these
(43:56):
nuns, you realize why they'restuck and you're this beam of
light and you're happy and it isbeautiful.
I mean, I'd say that is my mostfavorite thing to do is the
(44:17):
intuitive coaching, thespiritual coaching, because they
know more about us than we know.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Absolutely.
Yeah, it's a blessing and Ilove that every day is a new day
and you don't necessarily knowwhat is coming via the client
that's coming that day.
You know it's wonderful and forme, like I'm a life path number
five, like I need that.
I need that balance betweenadventure and the unknown and
(44:43):
the practicality of things, andso it fits quite well.
And the practicality of things,and so it fits quite well.
And, yeah, I just I love beinga part in being that spiritual
advisor, being that mentor,being that beacon of light to
watch other people find theirlight.
I mean, there's nothing moregratifying than that.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah, my nickname for the longest time was the
pinhole of light.
Yeah, my nickname for thelongest time was the pinhole of
light.
And one woman was like you're,no, you're, you're a lighthouse,
you're a lighthouse, you'rejust, you know.
But yeah it, it.
It's cool because and I'mcurious about this there have
been times where, before someoneeven shows up, I'm getting
(45:24):
intuitive hits about them.
It's like they're chatting away, chatting away, chatting away,
and so I can have this wholeinformation load about this
person.
And they show up and then I tryto see well, what are they
going to say?
I mean, to me that's always theinteresting part is really
(45:47):
being quiet and listening andhearing their story and figuring
out how invested they are intheir story and trying to, like
you said, the puzzle pieces,trying to put the puzzle pieces
you know of this and this andthis to um, to support them and
and to be of service.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Yeah, it's a beautiful blessing when you get
to the point of life when youhave your spiritual gifts and
you work with them and you leaninto them to understand that
they're a blessing, because longbefore they're a blessing, you
will think that they're a curse.
I don't know many people thatdon't.
Until you learn how to discernand work with your spirit guides
and with your spirit team andwith the gifts that you have, a
lot of people are overwhelmedand can't handle that.
(46:37):
So while we're talking abouthow wonderful and, you know,
amazing it is, you know BettyLou could be like well, I'm over
here, you know talking.
You know getting all thesedownloads and it's too much.
And to those people we say youknow, that's the time to learn
discernment, that's the time tolearn you know what are your
practices and how do youpractice protecting your energy
(46:58):
and being on versus not being on.
You know, and that's okay too.
And there are definitely timeswhere you know I have a
girlfriend who we could bewalking down the street and she
could see you two blocks awayand she will hunt you down to
deliver a message.
Now, I am not that person.
However, there have been times,like yesterday.
(47:20):
I was on the phone with agentleman from the car shop and
he began to tell me about hisdad that had passed away.
The car shop, and he began totell me about his dad that had
passed away.
And I'm like, oh, I was waitingfor it, you know.
And here comes his dad and I'mwaiting and I'm like do you, do
you want me to say something tohim?
Do you have a message?
And he was like no, he's like Ijust want him to feel my energy
through you.
And it was so beautiful and soimpactful, you know.
(47:45):
So it doesn't always have to bethat you're delivering, you
know, this wild, amazing message.
Sometimes it's just looking atsomeone and smiling at them.
That is the message that theyneeded in that moment.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah, or letting them know that there's signs and
that and that they willcommunicate to you through signs
if you ask for it, and that Ialways think is fascinating,
when you give them that littletidbit and then they get the
sign and they're like oh my God,I did happen.
(48:19):
That happened with one womanthat I was coaching up in Canada
.
Her father passed away from afreak accident and I told her no
, he's been trying tocommunicate with you through
signs.
And when she was a half an hourlater, she was vacuuming in her
house and she picked up amagazine and a little pamphlet
(48:40):
fell out and she picked it upand she read it and she started
crying.
She literally took a picture ofit.
It was a pendant that said Iwill never forget you, I'm
always with you, I always loveyou.
I mean, it was so beautiful.
And she was like yes, I got thesign, I got the message, and
(49:02):
they do, they do, and I got toshare this and I'm going to try
not to cry.
Sometimes it can feel like ablessing and a curse, because a
really good friend of minepassed away A really good friend
(49:26):
of mine, and what was weird ishe was here on a Monday and I
started reading him and I saidsomething to him where I'm like
do you know, you're slowly dyinginside, Do you know that?
And he said yes, and I wastalking to him because he was
(49:47):
really struggling with work, hishealth, all kinds of stuff.
And he said, yes, and I wastalking to him because he was
really struggling with work, hishealth, all kinds of stuff, and
he wasn't feeling good.
And I said you need to go tothe doctor, the urgent care, now
.
You need to go.
And he went and they said hehad gallstones.
But he also, um, his whiteblood cell platelets were really
low, it was at 30% and itshould have been at 100% and
(50:08):
they discharged him.
And then on Thursday he wassupposed to show up and work for
me he's my son's disabilitysupport worker and he sent me a
picture where he woke up andthere was blood in his mouth and
I was like, dude, go to thehospital now.
And he didn't go.
And that evening I even textedhim a message and I said what
(50:31):
did the doctor say?
Well, friday morning he wasrushed to ambulance, to the
(50:53):
hospital.
He we still don't know whathappened to 50% and when they
finally did surgery Saturdaymorning on his brain.
He was a vegetable and they hadto pull the plug and I cried.
I was just like I knew it andit's hard, you know, when you
have those intuitive hits thatsomeone is going and we can
(51:18):
struggle with it, where we don'twant to really believe it.
No, no, no, no, no.
But it's weird because in myroom I have this painting by the
same artist, called Welcome,and to me that is the image of
being up in heaven and it wasvibrating and it was pulsating
(51:39):
in front of me and he was in theroom right next to me and to me
that meant it was callingsomeone home.
It was calling someone home andthat's when I started reading
him and telling him all this.
It's like it just came rightthrough.
Tell him this and and I've hadto make you know peace with that
(52:03):
Cause, I mean, of course it was.
You know it was really hardthat.
Yeah, he actually did passSaturday.
We went to his celebration oflife.
But the real nice thing is theday after he passed.
When I woke up in the morning,the first thing I saw was his
smiling, beaming face at me hissmiling, beaming face at me, and
(52:31):
I knew he was okay, that he wasin a better place and that he
it was his time to go.
And he was, he was ready for it.
And it's hard to say that hewas 37.
So hard to say that, so young.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Yeah, oh, I'm so sorry, but the blessing is that
you did deliver the message andhe did heed it and he went to
the doctors.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
Yeah, yeah, and I mean and that is a blessing that
he did hear it and he did heedit and he did go, and I have to
forgive the doctor that you knowdid not admit him to the
hospital because, cause, when hewas there in the hospital on
Friday, the doctor there waslike, why wasn't he admitted on
Monday?
Why?
(53:14):
Why did they release him?
Yeah, and and so there are sometimes, like even with our own,
you know health, I tell peopleget a second opinion.
Seriously, if your gut istelling you that's your
intuition, your gut is tellingyou, no, I need a second opinion
(53:34):
.
Go get it, do it, cause I yeah,it's really important I
wouldn't have kids if I didn'tlisten to someone's you know
intuitive hit advice about mewhen I was younger, cause I got
a really bad infection and and Ididn't know how serious it was
until I went to the doctor andhe was like, if you would have
waited a week longer, you neverwould have had kids, and it's
(53:59):
like wow.
So sometimes we need to reallystop and go within and ask
ourselves you know, what shouldI do?
And listen to that guidance andlisten to that you know that
intuition, because when wesecond guess it, then you could
regret it, because that that wasa blessing that you were being
(54:22):
given.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Absolutely, and it's.
It's a muscle, just likeanything else that needs to be
trained, yes, and the more thatyou work with it, the more that
you will build the trust.
Yes, more that you'll feelcomfortable leaning into it.
And between point A and point B, that's when I suggest journal,
journal down those signs.
You know, journal it all.
(54:45):
You can review it, you can goback and see what resonates with
you.
You feel confident in yourselfand it's okay to you know, maybe
get a validation from someoneelse, but truly you want to be
listening to you.
You the best, you the best.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
Yes, that's, that's a hundred percent.
I fully, I fully agree withthat.
And that's why, like one friendwas asking me, like there's
moments where she was like Idon't get these intuitive hits.
I don't get these intuitivehits, why, why?
Why, and I said, when you'restuck in the levels of 3D human
(55:27):
consciousness, they can't reallytalk to you.
You have to think about it iswhen you calm yourself down and
you're at neutrality, which is250 in the state of human
consciousness, that's when theycan talk to you but they can't
communicate or get through.
When you're stuck in anger orhatred or despair or any of that
(55:51):
, you need to raise yourself upand realize that that's where
your happiness is, is up here.
It's not, you know, down there.
And a lot of people would alwayssay you know well why is desire
bad?
Why is desire bad?
Because desire is in the areaof 125.
(56:15):
And I said because that's greedand that's lust and people are
disposable and it's where you'rehungry for attention, you're
yearning for sexual approval.
There's vanity, enslavement,adrenaline, junkies.
You know unsatisfied cravings.
You're always disappointed.
When you're with someone, youwant them to love you
(56:38):
unconditionally and accept youand embrace you.
You don't want someone that'sgoing to superficially be your
friend and then the next dayghost you.
We see that all the time andthat's why I think more people
are seeking an emotionalconnection first over the
physical, because the physicalone is the lust.
(57:01):
You know and yes, we all have,you know needs, but you got to
think about it like how you justsaid, about you know getting a
massage and everything.
You're letting someone in yourspace and you should honor and
protect your space in a waywhere this is your temple.
(57:22):
It's not a dumpster, it's atemple.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
Absolutely, absolutely.
You want to keep your energyyours.
Yeah, you want to be verycareful whose energy you engage
with.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
Yes, you do, and that's why I tell people, you
know, be that quiet observer,you know, really become
self-aware, listen to whatthey're saying, really, really
listen and figure out.
You know where they're at wherethey're at with money, where
they're at with theirrelationship, with their friends
and family, with their career,because they'll tell you
(57:58):
everything.
They'll, you know, they'll laytheir cards out on the table if
you really know how to listen.
Absolutely, absolutely, yeah.
Well, jennifer, this has beensuch a gift.
I am so excited.
I've been wanting, I've beenliterally giddy for weeks, going
, oh, I can't wait to talk toher.
(58:19):
I can't wait to talk to her.
Yeah, so where can people findyou?
Social media website, youtube,tell, tell everyone.
Speaker 2 (58:29):
Best place to find me is my website, which is
jenniferpilatescom.
You head there.
You will find everything fromthe YouTube channel to the
podcast, to the coaching, to thereadings, to the Pilates
everything.
So head right there tojenniferpilatescom.
Feel free to send a message.
I will be happy to continuethis conversation and chat more,
and happy to explore and be thebeacon of light that you might
(58:50):
need.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
Awesome.
Thank you so much and I willinclude all of your links and
everything in the podcast.
So thank you.
Thank you, Jennifer.
Many blessings to you.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (59:04):
All right, have a great day.
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