March 21, 2025 • 45 mins
When nine-year-old Dolores Fazzino witnessed a spiritual healer correct her father's leg length discrepancy through the laying on of hands, her life's purpose crystallized before her eyes. This transformative experience in 1975 set her on a path to bridge conventional medicine with spiritual healing practices—a mission she's pursued for over four decades as a nurse practitioner and intuitive healer.
Dr. Fazzino, self-described "Energy Whisperer," brings us into the fascinating intersection of medical science and energy medicine. With remarkable clarity, she explains how our physical ailments often manifest as the visible tip of a much deeper iceberg—beneath the surface lie unprocessed emotions, limiting beliefs, ancestral patterns, and even past life influences that drive our health outcomes. Through her unique approach, she teaches clients to reconnect with their intuitive wisdom rather than positioning herself as someone who "fixes" others.
The conversation takes us through her evolution as both a healthcare provider and intuitive, including her disillusionment during the AIDS crisis when she realized conventional medicine didn't have all the answers. We explore the profound concept of dimensional consciousness—how humanity is collectively shifting from a 3D reality based on fear and control toward 4D and 5D awareness centered on compassion and interconnection.
Perhaps most powerfully, Dr. Fazzino reveals how healing our own energetic patterns can ripple through time, affecting seven generations backward and forward in our ancestral line. She suggests that many highly sensitive people and empaths are strategically placed within family systems specifically to break destructive generational cycles—reframing sensitivity as not a curse but a remarkable gift of service to one's lineage.
Ready to explore your own intuitive healing abilities? Connect with Dr. Fazzino's "I'm Awake, Now What?" program designed specifically for those experiencing spiritual awakening who need guidance navigating this profound transformation.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello everyone.
This is your host, Keri Logan,at Master the Upper Rooms, and
today I have a special guest andI'm really excited to be
talking to Dolores today.
So Dr Dolores Fazzino is avisionary in healthcare.
She integrates spirituality andwellness into conventional
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medicine and for over 40 yearsshe has been a nurse
practitioner.
She's a medical intuitive.
She's done collaborated workwith so many surgeries.
I mean, this woman is is justamazing and I'm really excited
to learn about kind of hersecret of of what she does and
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combines energy healing and justher intuitive counseling and
conventional medicine.
All of that.
I'm just really excited to hearwhat she has to say.
So, with that all said, welcometo the show, dolores.
How are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Thanks, keri, I'm doing great and thank you so
much for having me as part ofyour show today.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
So I'm really curious Tell usabout your journey to where you
are now with this practice.
How did this all kind of unfoldfor you?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Oh my gosh.
So that's an interesting storybecause it goes back to my
childhood pretty much, because,believe it or not, I was on a
trajectory to be a concertclarinetist.
Chronic health condition thathe had for like close to 10
years with a non, nontraditional healing laying on
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the hands.
This was back in 1975.
So you know, just to backlash alittle bit too, so you get.
The whole story is that youknow many people.
You know I'm in my 60s now, soI'm a product of the 1960s and
the 70s and life was waydifferent back then than it is
now.
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I was always born, I came intothis world with gifts, Like I
was an intuitive, highlysensitive person and an empath.
My parents didn't know what todo with me because I would feel
everything at a very deep level.
But yet I was born into afamily where feeling was not an
option.
The MO was ignore it, it'll goaway.
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So my mom used to pull thatcard on me and I would say but,
mom, I said I'm ignoring it andit's growing bigger.
So it wasn't working for me andI realized, okay, so for me to
survive my childhood I needed tochannel my emotion into
something creative and I chosemusic, so I really excelled at
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playing the clarinet and was ona pathway to become a concert
clarinetist.
But what was also happening intandem during my childhood?
My dad ended up having backsurgery in the mid 1960s and he
picked up a hospital, acquiredinfection, and back in the 1960s
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this was considered like adeath sentence because the thing
was they didn't have theantibiotics or the technology to
assist my father.
But usually what happens whenyou pick up a hospital, acquired
infection, maybe theinstruments weren't sterilized
or whatever properly, and thisis what happened.
My dad was on his deathbed atthat time for almost two months.
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He did survive, but yet, butyet.
When his immune system wouldget compromised in the future,
the whole same sequela wouldresurface.
So, starting in 1970 to 1975,my dad had four separate
episodes of this where he wouldbe hospitalized beyond his
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deathbed, maybe have to havesurgery, and he would be growing
abscesses throughout hisabdominal cavity that would have
to be drained.
And so my childhood was like anemotional roller coaster
because I didn't know if myfather was going to come back
from the hospital each time thathappened.
And remember I couldn't, Iwasn't allowed to feel anything.
Okay, I had to channel intomusic.
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So flash forward to 1975.
This was like the fourth timethat this had happened.
And you remember, in theseventies we didn't have
computers, we didn't have GoogleMD, we didn't have anything.
We had snail mail, we hadregular, you know, phones with
cords and the rotary dial.
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We had newspapers, we hadmagazines.
And so my mom came across anarticle in all places, the
National Enquirer of a man.
I laugh at this because it'shilarious, but God has a real
interesting way of connectingthe dots and having a sense of
humor at the same time.
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So my mom came across thisarticle that was being featured
about a man from Carroll,michigan, reverend Alex Holmes,
who had the gift of laying on ofhands.
He was a Presbyterian ministerand he was being written.
An article was beinghighlighted in regards to the
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work that he did, especiallythis ability to help people heal
from illnesses, and in fact hewas able to assist his brother
to heal from leukemia.
He didn't heal him, he assistedin that and Reverend Holmes had
been doing this work since 1950.
So he had been doing it 25years at the time and you have
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to remember this is likeconsidered uber quackery, oh
yeah, okay.
So my mom read that article andshared this with my father.
My mom wanted this guy to cometo our house in Connecticut.
My dad was like only if thesurgeon says it's okay.
So it just so happened that myparents were in the hospital at
the time and the surgeon wassitting at the nurse's station.
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So it just so happened that myparents were in the hospital at
the time and the surgeon wassitting at the nurse's station.
So my mom marched out to thenurse's station and announced to
the surgeon I'm thinking abouthaving a spiritual healer come
in to assist my husband with hiscondition, because Western
medicine was failing her bigtime.
So the surgeon looks up at herand says Sure, that would be
fine.
Okay, great.
So my mom goes back to my dad,shares that news with him.
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My dad agrees Not.
10 minutes go by.
My mom goes back out to thesame nurse's station, same
surgeon sitting there and sharedthe news with the surgeons and
she said you know, my husbandagreed to have the spiritual
healer come in.
The surgeon stopped what he wasdoing, looked up at her and
said I never agreed to that.
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So this is where God kind ofcomes in behind the scenes and
laces things around.
My mom didn't share that pieceof information with my dad and a
month later Reverend Holmes wasat our house in Connecticut and
I just remember him being thisamazing man who had really good
energy and very humble.
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I don't know how he knew this,but my dad had one leg that was
shorter than the other.
The whole entire family knew it.
My dad used to wear a lift inhis shoes, but my dad was
barefoot and there was no shoesin sight.
But he knew that my dad hadthat leg length discrepancy.
So when my dad sat down, hesaid please put your both your
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feet up.
And sure he, sure enough he did.
And there was a one inch gapbetween the longer and the
shorter leg and he instructed mydad to lower his legs and he
started praying over my father.
He tapped his belly solarplexus, top of his head, his
crown chakra, started sayingsome prayers and quoting
scripture from the Bible andthen he said put both your feet
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up.
And, carrie, they were both thesame length.
Wow, in that moment my lifechanged forever.
I knew that it was my mission togo into health care to bridge
the spiritual with the physicaland the visible with the
invisible.
Now my father, the big skepticstarted wailing like a baby,
like I've never, ever seen himcry before, because he needed to
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have something visual, to knowthat something was happened so
he could believe.
And so what happened after that?
More prayers were said over myfather for about another half
hour and he was instructed tolie down and sleep and rest for
as long as possible.
My dad slept for over 24 hoursbecause, as we know now, when we
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are getting energy work done,it's like a computer getting a
new, updated program.
You have to reboot the computerto reintegrate the new
information.
Same thing with your physicalbody New information is coming
in, new energy, new downloads.
Our body needs to rest, torecalibrate to the higher
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frequency.
He returned a month later to theCAT scanner where he had been
diagnosed with what he was goingto be needed to do, and they
showed no evidence of what hisprevious health problem was that
was creating all of this.
He never had to revisit thisever again, and they were
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supposed to be doing a bigsurgery on him called a spinal
fusion, which in 1975 was in itsneophyte stages of development.
That came with a high risk ofeither you being paralyzed, you
could die.
You may get better.
You may not.
He never had to have thatsurgery and he passed away at
the age of 80 about 13 years ago.
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Wow.
So for me I was like thishappened and I'm thinking to
myself now what?
Because, okay, I've got allthis information, I know where I
need to be going.
So I went into healthcare andlet me tell you it's been an
interesting journey Because,being an intuitive, you see
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things, hear things, feel things, know things that Western
medicine doesn't, but they siton their laurels thinking that
they're the best thing sincesliced bread.
Interesting, an interestingjourney for me.
I was highly naive as a youngnurse.
In fact, in the early 1980s Ilived through that other
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pandemic called HIV and AIDS.
Oh yeah, at the time, and Ithought Western medicine knew
all the answers Silly me.
I realized shortly after,during that thing, that when the
protocol was changing on adaily basis, I was like, oh hell
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, nobody knows what the hell'sgoing on.
So they don't.
And the thing is there's areason why they call it a
license to practice because theyare practicing and you know,
and that's okay, that's what youknow.
That's one modality of healthand wellness.
The good news is is that, asI've migrated through my career
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journey, cause I still practicein a clinical setting part-time
and do my other coaching stuffas well.
It's reassuring to know thatit's only taken 45 years, but
we're heading in the rightdirection.
Okay, yeah, so the thing is in19, in the 1990s.
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I think one of the things thatopened the doorway for what we
are witnessing today in healthand wellness is the whole
complementary and alternativemovement that started in that
time and the National Institutesof Health and Wellness started
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implementing and looking atcomplementary and alternative
and integrative modalities.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Because, like yes, like acupuncture.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, practic.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah Well, acupuncture has been around for
5000 years.
I mean, obviously it's stillhere, so it must work.
What do you think?
So I just have to crack,because it's just like.
It's kind of comical in a way,and I have a lot of compassion
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and a lot of hope, knowing thatwe're heading in the right
direction.
It probably doesn't seem thatway to a lot of people, but you
and I were both sharing aboutthis, the whole thing about
paradigms and shifting.
There's a lot of paradigmshifting that is happening.
We, everything that we look atin our world, has been built on
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an old paradigm of you know, wetalked about dimensional
realities.
Third dimensional reality thirddimensional, is like a lot of
control, abuse of power, fearOkay.
And when these structures arebuilt on that, they're vibrating
and stuck, landlocked in thatvibration of third dimensional.
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Well, we are going to fourthand fifth.
Okay, it's no longer analignment, but yet people who
are still here, it's like crabsin a bucket.
You're up here and you'reescaping, the crabs are coming
out, but yet these lowervibrating crabs are trying to
reach for your feet to keep youdown here, and that's what we're
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witnessing right now.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
So, and that's why I tell people we need to be
mindful, you know, like, what Iwas saying is what do we put in
our minds?
What are we going to watch onTV, what are we going to watch
in the theaters?
And you know, when I sit backand I look at all the fear
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mongering and all the violenceand the gore, because I mean I
know, I don't, I don't look it,but I was born in 68.
So I know what it was like inthe, you know, in the seventies
and, yes, it was completelydifferent than how, how it is
now and, um, but I look at it isI'm I'm glad the way that the
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world is raising its level ofconsciousness, Cause, like even
with AIDS, you know, back thenbeing being gay was so taboo.
I mean, it was, it was horrible.
But now we're like, well, ifthat's the way you're born and
that's how you feel and you lovethis person and you're not
hurting anybody, um, it's justlove, there's nothing wrong with
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it.
And so, you know, as as aspecies, we are raising our
level of consciousness to bemore accepting, more
compassionate, more, moreforgiving, more optimistic,
instead of everything just beingblack and white, because that
is 3D is.
It's all about fear, power,control and and all about the
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self and as a whole.
We need to look at it.
So a good example and I wouldrecommend everyone watch this
documentary is called the Graband it's all about how countries
are.
We're going to have a war onfood because we're going to have
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so many people on this planetand how are we going to feed
them?
So there's other countriesbuying a property on Africa and
different areas to grow theircrops and that's where they see
it.
But the real important thing isthere's too many distractions,
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as you know, Dolores, in theworld.
So many distractions.
There's like all these minireels and our attention span is
just changing and all of that isdistracting us from looking at
the real truth of what is goingon in the background.
You know, behind you are.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
You are so spot on and it's just like I've.
Actually, I had somethinghappen to me about six months
ago.
I got cyber attacked and theygot into my financials and drain
my personal and checking inwhatever, and they got in
through social media pretty much, and so I had to stop because I
was promoting my podcastthrough doing reels on tick
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toxic.
Yeah, all the tick toxic.
It's not tick tock, it's ticktoxic, because it's like exactly
what you said it's aboutdistraction and that is uber
distractive and in fact, it wasso energetically misaligned with
me I was getting like violentlyill just being on it and I had
to stop.
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So I you know I want to circleback to this because I think
it's so.
You know we talk aboutcollective consciousness, you
know.
You describe it as somethingyou know, but what it is?
It's collective consciousness,it's a pool of energetic stuff
and I don't think people realizewhat that is and how we
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influence and affect that.
Okay, everything starts withself first.
Okay, I don't care if you'reseeing a lot of judging and
criticizing and talks andcollective consciousness, but we
start with that ourselves.
We're very good at judging andcriticizing ourselves.
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Yeah, okay, and this is whereit starts Okay, because we judge
and criticize ourselves andthat little pebble our
personality, that idea, whatevergets dropped into collective
consciousness and it ripples outand affects everything.
It's like putting a pebble in apond.
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Same philosophy we'recontributing to collective
consciousness Even though we'rebeating ourselves up and you
don't think you're doing that.
That goes into the bigger pool.
So I think and I feel and I knowthis is true that we need to
start being moreself-compassionate with
ourselves.
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Being more self-compassionatewith ourselves when we start
going down that rabbit hole ofbeating ourselves up our
awareness.
When you become aware, it'shard to go back to being unaware
.
You have awareness.
Now you can make a differentchoice.
How are you going to changethat?
I find one of the easiestthings to do is just focus on
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the word self-compassion,because self-compassion is a
higher vibrating word than fearor beating self up.
When you focus on the energy ofsomething higher vibrating,
you're going to create a higherfrequency where this stuff is
going to fall away and you'regoing to.
When you start having moreself-compassion for yourself,
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it's going to be droppingpebbles of self-compassion into
collective consciousness andit's going to ripple and affect.
When people say they can't, theydon't.
They're just one person, theycan't change the world.
I beg to differ.
You have more power than youknow.
You contribute to that changeby who you are being and the
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essence that's radiating throughyou because, remember,
everything is energy.
Yeah, and I know, back 50 yearsago people would look at you
like you had three eyes and youwere cray cray, but it's the
truth.
We know through quantum physicsthat everything is energy and
we have more power than you know.
When you're awake, this iswhere you step into your power.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
No, it's not.
You're a hundred percent,because I even did a podcast
about how to silence that.
You know to silence thatnegative inner critic, and how
you do it is by having aconversation with that part of
you that's angry, that doesn'tfeel good enough, that is
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wounded.
It literally still is a woundedpart of you and instead of
being an authoritarian parentand telling it to shut up and
leave me alone, what you'redoing is you're nurturing it and
listening to it and learningfrom it and healing it.
And so and it is true Once youreally work on that being
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satisfied with yourself, beingcontent with yourself, having
peace with yourself, realizingyou're perfectly imperfect, just
the way you are, when you gointo that 40 human consciousness
area, that inner critic goesaway.
It has nothing to cling on toanymore.
And when someone tries to shameyou or make you feel bad about
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yourself, you don't take thebait right.
You literally don't, becauseyou realize that it's not about
you, it's about them, it's theirinsecurities upon you, and when
you have that perspective thatit's not about you, it's about
their wounded parts, now, itthen gives you more compassion
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and grace towards other people.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Oh, absolutely, and as long as you remember not to
take their stuff on to heal itfor them, because that is not
your job.
Your job and many people whoare empaths, intuitives and
highly sensitive people, forthem, it's about discerning the
boundary of what that's allabout, because I think for so,
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for so many of us.
You know, when we are conceivedin in the uterus, um, and we
become more than the two cells,we become energetic beings.
At that point, oh yeah.
So we are taking on things inhotel, mom, okay, we're residing
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for nine months or so, andeverything mom is feeling and
experiencing, but also all theancestral stuff that comes along
with it, okay, so sometimes asenergetic beings, we can't
decipher where we end in.
Something else begins and wetake it on as ours to heal and
fix for our parents, andsometimes when we are born as
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well.
This continues that until youget to a point where you feel
like you're not living your true, authentic life and then you
have your I call it yourspiritual awakening and you
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realize how it's aboutunraveling all the stuff that
has occurred and it's not like agood thing or bad thing.
It's maybe part of your journeyto allow you to get to where
you are and are going to begoing.
A lot of times we don't realizewhat we're going through and
what we had gone through untilyou're way on the other side of
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it and you could sit there andlook back and say, oh, my God, I
could see how that happened andthat led to this and that led
to this.
And you know it's a beautifulthing when you're on the other
side of it and you could witnessthat it's not so great when
you're going through it.
Okay, that's all part of theeducational experience where you
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know you're coming to earth toget your PhD and, being human
Right Right, we're all going toget our.
We're all going to get ourdissertation done.
We're all going to graduatewith PhDs.
No, no lie about it, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Well, and I think, too, it's realizing that nothing
is permanent, everything istemporary.
So when you're like for me, Icall it the dark, dark night of
the soul, when I went throughthat, I didn't know why the hell
I was having that experiencewith these particular people and
what, what I mean.
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I couldn't wrap my head aroundit.
But now, like you said, when Ilook back at it all, I
understand exactly why.
Oh, absolutely 100% exactly why.
But the beautiful thing is youcan look at it from a 3D
perspective of I'm a victim andthey did this, this, this and
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this, or you can look at it isno, that taught me so much about
myself, about other people, andwhy I had that experience,
because then I'm going to use itfor this purpose.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, and you know, and I think the whole thing of
being grateful and appreciativeof those experiences is just
another aspect that people, Ithink, sometimes forget yeah,
okay, because it's about, yeah,realizing that, oh my gosh, it
was like these great lessonsthat I learned, and I learned so
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much, you know.
The other thing that makes methink about things too, you know
, when people go through majorthings, sometimes they're just
clinging on to the old way, andwhat I have to tell people is
that you know, as uncomfortableas it is to let something go,
you're getting upgraded.
To let something go, you'regetting upgraded Energetically.
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It's like where you're at iskeeping you stuck as to where
you should be and will be in thefuture, right, so it's about
allowing it to, you know, removeitself from your space, no
matter how painful it is, andrealize you're getting upgraded
Because you are.
You're going to be creatingsomething that's more
energetically aligned with whoyou are right now and where
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you're going, not where you hadbeen to keep you stuck.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Right, right, yeah, no, it it makes perfect sense,
because I like to look at it asall that lower, dense emotional
energies that get stuck andtrapped with, you know, within
us.
It it's like rocks, rocks thatare just weighing you down,
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weighing you down, and when you,when those rocks keep
accumulating and accumulatingand accumulating like anger and
hate and disappointment, and allof that, it builds and builds
and builds and builds, and thenit creates dis-ease within the
physical body.
It really does.
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And so I wanted to ask you knowwhat is an energy whisperer?
Because I think it kind of kindof ties into this concept.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Well, thank you for asking.
Energy whisperer was actuallysome title that a couple of my
clients gave to me because I amvery fluent.
I am very fluent.
Okay, if energy was a language,I'd be highly fluent in it,
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because energy I could readenergy very well and it could be
a feeling seeing it.
When a person starts talking,it's just like I could see the
energetic unraveling of what isgoing on with that person, of
what is going on with thatperson.
Okay, case in point, if, ifsomebody comes to see me I mean
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I see people who have healthchallenges and always, and also
people who just want to makelife changes okay, I tell them
the same thing because it's thesame material, whether or not,
wherever you are on thecontinuum with your health and
wellness.
So, when you're able to whensomebody, for an example, I'm
going to give a real strongexample is that somebody comes
in with, like breast cancer,okay, and they start talking and
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you know I it's likeenergetically, I could dissect.
You know, the physicality isjust the tip of the iceberg.
What's below the surface arethe emotions, the thought
processes, the beliefs, yourconnectedness to yourself and
all the other stuff, ancestralstuff, dimensional stuff, that's
below the surface, that isactually unconscious below the
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surface, but running the showphysically Okay, cause
everything kind of gets tippedinto the physical when this gets
very overwhelming Okay.
So oftentimes you might findsomebody who you know.
If they're have breast cancer,it's just like you know.
They start talking and I couldfeel energetically where the
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blocks are and what is going onand you know whether or not they
experience their emotions, howthey show up in their life,
whether or not they putthemselves as a priority.
It's just like I could tell alot energetically that has
probably contributed to wherethey're at physically.
So it's about looking at thosethings and making the person
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have the awareness of this.
It's not about me fixing it forthem, but it's about them
taking ownership and I makesuggestions and teaching them
how to, maybe for the first timeever, learn how to trust their
intuition, because for so manypeople they either have ignored
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it, don't even know what, it isbeen told that not to use it
because it's not correct by athird party external.
But it's just like we all havethat innate wisdom within
ourselves to heal ourselves.
Sometimes we have dialed itaway, put it on a shelf, ignored
it, but it's time to have arenaissance and reconnect with
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that.
So it's about teaching peoplehow to trust their intuition and
I will give them, like maybefour or five different
possibilities and where theyfeel like they're leaning into,
and then they follow that nextstep and then learn.
You know what I'm saying.
Maybe they need to do someforgiveness work or whatever.
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It's just like if that's whatthey're leaning into.
We work on that aspect Becauseyou know more about yourself
than anybody does and whensomebody comes in and says I'm
going to heal you, you're doingthem a huge disservice because
you throw a bandaid on thesituation, because unless they
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take ownership and step intotheir power to heal themselves,
it's not going to heal.
So it's about learning how toheal at the core.
So I hope that answered whatyou were to heal at the core.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
So I hope that answered what you were.
No, it did, because what you'redoing is you're teaching them
like.
What I do is how to tap intothe realms of 4D and 5D human
consciousness yeah, andforgiveness is in that bracket.
There is self-acceptance orself-compassion, and they have
to learn the lesson of why did Icreate this within me?
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Why did this manifest within me?
So it is taking accountabilityand responsibility and all the
answers does exist within us.
Oh, absolutely Quieter mind.
We go within, we ask thequestions.
It bubbles to the surface andso that's the.
(31:57):
It's like I.
I just interviewed someonerecently where I did a trade
where he wanted to do myservices, so I coached them and
then I made them a customrecording and the way that I
looked at it is, the coachingwas getting the wisdom and the
information on the consciouslevel, but the recording was
(32:19):
designed to get it in thesubconscious mind, to pull out
the roots of what was limitinghim in his life and holding him
back, and he was just like oh myGod, it was, it was, it was, it
was amazing and and a lot of itsometimes, like you said, is
generational trauma.
(32:40):
It's, it's bad habits that havebeen passed down from
generation to generation togeneration.
It gets stuck in us.
It's been proven it can be inour DNA for up to seven
generations, and so that's why,when I do the customs I'm
clearing.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I look at it as I'm taking out the garbage and I'm
raising them up energetically,well of course, and that that
and you know I want to sharethis part of it too, and I'm
sure you're aware of this it'slike when you start doing the
energetic work on your ancestorancestral stuff, it's just like
you have the capability to healup to seven generations in the
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past and seven in the future.
So it's a huge gift to yourancestors.
Because I also look at it fromthis perspective, I think a lot
of people who were born impasseintuitives and highly sensitive
people.
They, you know, sometimes theyfeel like this is like the curse
that's been bestowed upon them.
It's not.
It's the true.
You have a true gift.
(33:43):
You're here to heal generationalstuff that's been going on.
It stops with you, right, so itdoesn't go any further.
So you have big you.
You have a big job in thisincarnation.
Yet until you get to the otherside of your stuff, sometimes
you don't realize what is reallygoing on.
(34:05):
And now, since you healed itwithin yourself, you're able to
heal it from, you know, fromthat heel point to through the
ancestral lineage as well.
So it's very powerful stuff and, you know, not every family has
multiple empaths, intuitivesand highly sensitive people.
It's like we're strategicallyplaced in family clans.
(34:26):
It's like you might beconsidered the black sheep of
the family or the weird one.
That's me, yeah, but everybody.
But the thing is, you're therefor that particular purpose and
it really is a huge gift ofservice to your whole family
lineage really.
(34:47):
So you know, it's not for thefaint of heart.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
And it takes a lot of courage.
I mean especially, you know,because, yes, I am a black sheep
and I've always said it andbeen and been proud of it.
It's not easy, yeah, it's noteasy, but I I look at it is,
yeah, I learned a lot about me,you know, and why I came in at
(35:17):
this particular time and what ismy purpose and you know what,
what's my meaning, and beingable to look at the
dysfunctional, toxic people inmy family and still love them,
yes, but agree that I don't haveto like them.
That's a personality preferencebut I can still love them
(35:39):
because they were my greatestteachers.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Oh, absolutely, and I you know, I feel, when we look
at the world from thatperspective, it just gives us a
different possibility.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
You're not looking at from the lens of a victim.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, you're looking at it is.
I came in here for thisparticular reason and purpose to
learn this.
I chose my family.
I chose my parents, you know.
And just because we chose them,it doesn't mean you know, and
just because we chose them itdoesn't mean you know they're
bad or they're flawed or they'reor they're horrid or any
(36:22):
anything like that.
It just means you pick them fora particular reason and the
sooner you can figure out whatit is and and and raise your
consciousness up from you know,feeling victimized and blaming
everybody.
When you raise yourself up,then you're freeing yourself and
everybody around you.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Absolutely.
So.
You know, people.
I think the other concept thatpeople may have a challenge with
is the whole concept of energy,because everything is energy.
Okay, when you and I look ateach other, we see our offices.
Actually, those are denserforms of energy.
Our physicality is a very denseform of energy, but if you were
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to put everything that you seeunder a high powered microscope,
it would vibrate.
So it's energy.
Those are the things that wecould feel, you know.
We could see or tangibly feel.
The things that we can't see orfeel are our thoughts, our
emotions, whether or not we'veexperienced them or not, our
(37:28):
connectedness to ourselves, youknow, and also the ancestral
stuff and dimensional stuff andpast life stuff.
To a lot of us have past lifehangovers that we are carrying,
stuff from many lifetimes thatare influencing us now.
That's what we call a hangover.
It's not, didn't happen thislifetime, but it's still
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interfering.
That's all energy that maybesome people could see if they're
clairvoyant or clairsent orwhatever, but the majority of
people can't.
They could feel it.
Maybe they could sense it.
Sometimes, when you're in aroom, you could sense what had
happened in the room before, ifit was positive or negative or,
you know, I think the classclass thing is like.
(38:11):
This is a real greatdemonstration how energy works.
We've all had those experienceswhere you've had friends that
are someplace else in the world,thousands of miles away.
Maybe you haven't seen them ina while.
You think about them and thenext thing you know the phone
rings and it's them.
This is how energy works.
Okay, it's waves.
(38:32):
So the thing is is just becauseyou can't see them does not
mean it doesn't exist.
So energy is everywhere and Ifeel that, as people are waking
up to going into the fourth andfifth dimensional realities,
this is going to become a commonawareness now than it had been
before.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah, no, I, I, I fully, I fully agree.
So I'm curious, and I'm sureother people are as well what
programs do you offer?
What do you?
Speaker 2 (39:05):
offer.
I have this program with that Ico host with a friend of mine,
cozy Stan Cates, who is a bodytalk practitioner, and it's
called I'm awake.
Now what it's for those peoplewho had their spiritual
awakening or have realized thatlife isn't working for them as
it had before and now they don'tknow what to do with it,
(39:29):
because sometimes that could bea real scary place, and for many
of us who have gone throughthat decades before, it was a
very scary place because therewas no resources.
So we provide resources, tools,healing a community, and also
weekly talks, 30 minute talks ondifferent topics, and we've
(39:50):
talked about fear, we've talkedabout forgiveness, we've we're
going to probably talk about umjust energy and in general,
tonight we have one tonight.
We usually meet on Tuesdaynights, but since it's um the
holiday and Gracie, my cat, justloves to be around.
She's very, she's a veryspecial kitty.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
She's super sweet.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Oh, she's, she's very sweet.
Um, so that's one thing, and Ialso offer one-on-one coaching
and if you're interested ineither of those things, you
could just go to my website,drdeloresfazzinocom, and you
should be able to see I'm awakenow, what in the header, and
(40:32):
just click on that and it'llgive you more information.
It's a monthly membershipprogram but it offers a lot of
support and a lot of differentresources.
We like to populate that stuffbecause it's nice to have a
place where you could go.
It's like, okay, I need someinformation about forgiveness.
It's just like so we give someresources and stuff like that,
(40:53):
and books maybe that they might,you know, want to want to read
or whatever.
But yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
And I'm going to create a blog post for you that
will have all your um like.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Facebook.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Instagram, linkedin, so people can contact you that
way.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah, cool.
Well, thank you so much, carrie, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Thank well, I'm just I'm really glad I got to connect
with you and communicate onthis subject, because there, I
mean, there's even a great bookout there of um God, was it?
Heal your body?
I mean, that was the first onethat came out, and then the
secret language of your body,all about emotions and how it
(41:33):
creates disease within us.
But we also have the power toyou know heal.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
We do, and you know.
I just want to piggyback onwhat you're saying as well,
because I've been recentlyrevisiting books that I read 30
plus years ago and a series ofbooks by Catherine Ponder on the
dynamic laws of prosperity andthe dynamic oh, love her books.
Oh my God, dynamic laws ofhealing, cause I'm doing it
(42:00):
right now.
It is just amazing because thiswoman I mean her material she's
still alive.
She's like 90.
And her material is timeless.
Even though it was written like50 plus years ago, it's still
very applicable to today andwhere we're going in the future.
(42:22):
So she was, she's a truevisionary she is.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
I remember reading her books when I was literally
in high school and in college um, um, yes, like, and some other
one like your word is your wand,yeah, and the golden path was
another amazing book.
I forget who wrote that one,but oh yeah, I read all these
spiritual books like creativevisualization and learning about
(42:49):
channeling, and oh yeah it'sbeen.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
It's been kind of fun to revisit it like decades
later because you know, I know,for I can speak for myself.
I've gone through so muchgrowth myself.
I have a different lens as I'mreading this compared to what
the lens was before, and it'sjust been highly insightful so
well she has lots of prayers inthere too.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
It's, like you know, really positive healing
statements of what to say.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Oh my God.
So I feel that this, this issomething, if it resonates with
people, to go explore, becauseit's definitely a cool thing.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah, it is Well, thank you, Thank you.
Thank you for being my guesttoday.
Happy holidays.
I enjoyed this conversationwith you, Dolores.
You're welcome, Keri, and Ilook forward to, you know,
possibly having you back andtalking about more stuff,
because this is important, youknow.
I mean people want to.
(43:51):
You know heal and there's waysthat we can start healing
ourselves in a, let's say,unconventional way, but it
should be the conventional way.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
I totally agree.
It's like it's moving intoanother dimension, yeah, which
is it's been a journey in mycareer, but it's.
I'm glad I'm at the point whereI'm at right now, because now I
get to see a lot of the fruitsof the labor that had been done
(44:23):
for so many decades.
So, yeah, timing is everything,especially when you're like,
okay, I'm here, now I'm supposedto do what?
Yeah, you, you know you have tolaugh, because it's just like
you know, the universe and Godhas a great sense of humor and
the thing is, it's like I wantto just leave this one last
(44:46):
thing with everybody pleasedon't ever lose your sense of
humor or your sense of wonderand humor, because because once
you do that, it's over.
Folks, there's a lot to laughabout in this world.
There really is.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
There really is.
Yes, yeah, I say we got to stopbeing so serious, yeah.
Anyway, thank you Thank you,dolores, have a fabulous rest of
your day and thank you.
Thank you, you're welcome.
You're welcome, all right, takecare.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Bye.
Hello everyone.
This is your host, Keri Logan,at Master the Upper Rooms, and
today I have a special guest andI'm really excited to be
talking to Dolores today.
So Dr Dolores Fazzino is avisionary in healthcare.
She integrates spirituality andwellness into conventional
(00:22):
medicine and for over 40 yearsshe has been a nurse
practitioner.
She's a medical intuitive.
She's done collaborated workwith so many surgeries.
I mean, this woman is is justamazing and I'm really excited
to learn about kind of hersecret of of what she does and
(00:43):
combines energy healing and justher intuitive counseling and
conventional medicine.
All of that.
I'm just really excited to hearwhat she has to say.
So, with that all said, welcometo the show, dolores.
How are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Thanks, keri, I'm doing great and thank you so
much for having me as part ofyour show today.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
So I'm really curious Tell usabout your journey to where you
are now with this practice.
How did this all kind of unfoldfor you?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Oh my gosh.
So that's an interesting storybecause it goes back to my
childhood pretty much, because,believe it or not, I was on a
trajectory to be a concertclarinetist.
Chronic health condition thathe had for like close to 10
years with a non, nontraditional healing laying on
(01:50):
the hands.
This was back in 1975.
So you know, just to backlash alittle bit too, so you get.
The whole story is that youknow many people.
You know I'm in my 60s now, soI'm a product of the 1960s and
the 70s and life was waydifferent back then than it is
now.
(02:12):
I was always born, I came intothis world with gifts, Like I
was an intuitive, highlysensitive person and an empath.
My parents didn't know what todo with me because I would feel
everything at a very deep level.
But yet I was born into afamily where feeling was not an
option.
The MO was ignore it, it'll goaway.
(02:34):
So my mom used to pull thatcard on me and I would say but,
mom, I said I'm ignoring it andit's growing bigger.
So it wasn't working for me andI realized, okay, so for me to
survive my childhood I needed tochannel my emotion into
something creative and I chosemusic, so I really excelled at
(02:57):
playing the clarinet and was ona pathway to become a concert
clarinetist.
But what was also happening intandem during my childhood?
My dad ended up having backsurgery in the mid 1960s and he
picked up a hospital, acquiredinfection, and back in the 1960s
(03:18):
this was considered like adeath sentence because the thing
was they didn't have theantibiotics or the technology to
assist my father.
But usually what happens whenyou pick up a hospital, acquired
infection, maybe theinstruments weren't sterilized
or whatever properly, and thisis what happened.
My dad was on his deathbed atthat time for almost two months.
(03:39):
He did survive, but yet, butyet.
When his immune system wouldget compromised in the future,
the whole same sequela wouldresurface.
So, starting in 1970 to 1975,my dad had four separate
episodes of this where he wouldbe hospitalized beyond his
(04:00):
deathbed, maybe have to havesurgery, and he would be growing
abscesses throughout hisabdominal cavity that would have
to be drained.
And so my childhood was like anemotional roller coaster
because I didn't know if myfather was going to come back
from the hospital each time thathappened.
And remember I couldn't, Iwasn't allowed to feel anything.
Okay, I had to channel intomusic.
(04:22):
So flash forward to 1975.
This was like the fourth timethat this had happened.
And you remember, in theseventies we didn't have
computers, we didn't have GoogleMD, we didn't have anything.
We had snail mail, we hadregular, you know, phones with
cords and the rotary dial.
(04:42):
We had newspapers, we hadmagazines.
And so my mom came across anarticle in all places, the
National Enquirer of a man.
I laugh at this because it'shilarious, but God has a real
interesting way of connectingthe dots and having a sense of
humor at the same time.
(05:03):
So my mom came across thisarticle that was being featured
about a man from Carroll,michigan, reverend Alex Holmes,
who had the gift of laying on ofhands.
He was a Presbyterian ministerand he was being written.
An article was beinghighlighted in regards to the
(05:23):
work that he did, especiallythis ability to help people heal
from illnesses, and in fact hewas able to assist his brother
to heal from leukemia.
He didn't heal him, he assistedin that and Reverend Holmes had
been doing this work since 1950.
So he had been doing it 25years at the time and you have
(05:46):
to remember this is likeconsidered uber quackery, oh
yeah, okay.
So my mom read that article andshared this with my father.
My mom wanted this guy to cometo our house in Connecticut.
My dad was like only if thesurgeon says it's okay.
So it just so happened that myparents were in the hospital at
the time and the surgeon wassitting at the nurse's station.
(06:06):
So it just so happened that myparents were in the hospital at
the time and the surgeon wassitting at the nurse's station.
So my mom marched out to thenurse's station and announced to
the surgeon I'm thinking abouthaving a spiritual healer come
in to assist my husband with hiscondition, because Western
medicine was failing her bigtime.
So the surgeon looks up at herand says Sure, that would be
fine.
Okay, great.
So my mom goes back to my dad,shares that news with him.
(06:30):
My dad agrees Not.
10 minutes go by.
My mom goes back out to thesame nurse's station, same
surgeon sitting there and sharedthe news with the surgeons and
she said you know, my husbandagreed to have the spiritual
healer come in.
The surgeon stopped what he wasdoing, looked up at her and
said I never agreed to that.
(06:50):
So this is where God kind ofcomes in behind the scenes and
laces things around.
My mom didn't share that pieceof information with my dad and a
month later Reverend Holmes wasat our house in Connecticut and
I just remember him being thisamazing man who had really good
energy and very humble.
(07:11):
I don't know how he knew this,but my dad had one leg that was
shorter than the other.
The whole entire family knew it.
My dad used to wear a lift inhis shoes, but my dad was
barefoot and there was no shoesin sight.
But he knew that my dad hadthat leg length discrepancy.
So when my dad sat down, hesaid please put your both your
(07:33):
feet up.
And sure he, sure enough he did.
And there was a one inch gapbetween the longer and the
shorter leg and he instructed mydad to lower his legs and he
started praying over my father.
He tapped his belly solarplexus, top of his head, his
crown chakra, started sayingsome prayers and quoting
scripture from the Bible andthen he said put both your feet
(07:55):
up.
And, carrie, they were both thesame length.
Wow, in that moment my lifechanged forever.
I knew that it was my mission togo into health care to bridge
the spiritual with the physicaland the visible with the
invisible.
Now my father, the big skepticstarted wailing like a baby,
like I've never, ever seen himcry before, because he needed to
(08:18):
have something visual, to knowthat something was happened so
he could believe.
And so what happened after that?
More prayers were said over myfather for about another half
hour and he was instructed tolie down and sleep and rest for
as long as possible.
My dad slept for over 24 hoursbecause, as we know now, when we
(08:40):
are getting energy work done,it's like a computer getting a
new, updated program.
You have to reboot the computerto reintegrate the new
information.
Same thing with your physicalbody New information is coming
in, new energy, new downloads.
Our body needs to rest, torecalibrate to the higher
(09:01):
frequency.
He returned a month later to theCAT scanner where he had been
diagnosed with what he was goingto be needed to do, and they
showed no evidence of what hisprevious health problem was that
was creating all of this.
He never had to revisit thisever again, and they were
(09:23):
supposed to be doing a bigsurgery on him called a spinal
fusion, which in 1975 was in itsneophyte stages of development.
That came with a high risk ofeither you being paralyzed, you
could die.
You may get better.
You may not.
He never had to have thatsurgery and he passed away at
the age of 80 about 13 years ago.
(09:45):
Wow.
So for me I was like thishappened and I'm thinking to
myself now what?
Because, okay, I've got allthis information, I know where I
need to be going.
So I went into healthcare andlet me tell you it's been an
interesting journey Because,being an intuitive, you see
(10:08):
things, hear things, feel things, know things that Western
medicine doesn't, but they siton their laurels thinking that
they're the best thing sincesliced bread.
Interesting, an interestingjourney for me.
I was highly naive as a youngnurse.
In fact, in the early 1980s Ilived through that other
(10:33):
pandemic called HIV and AIDS.
Oh yeah, at the time, and Ithought Western medicine knew
all the answers Silly me.
I realized shortly after,during that thing, that when the
protocol was changing on adaily basis, I was like, oh hell
(10:53):
, nobody knows what the hell'sgoing on.
So they don't.
And the thing is there's areason why they call it a
license to practice because theyare practicing and you know,
and that's okay, that's what youknow.
That's one modality of healthand wellness.
The good news is is that, asI've migrated through my career
(11:19):
journey, cause I still practicein a clinical setting part-time
and do my other coaching stuffas well.
It's reassuring to know thatit's only taken 45 years, but
we're heading in the rightdirection.
Okay, yeah, so the thing is in19, in the 1990s.
(11:44):
I think one of the things thatopened the doorway for what we
are witnessing today in healthand wellness is the whole
complementary and alternativemovement that started in that
time and the National Institutesof Health and Wellness started
(12:05):
implementing and looking atcomplementary and alternative
and integrative modalities.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Because, like yes, like acupuncture.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, practic.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah Well, acupuncture has been around for
5000 years.
I mean, obviously it's stillhere, so it must work.
What do you think?
So I just have to crack,because it's just like.
It's kind of comical in a way,and I have a lot of compassion
(12:38):
and a lot of hope, knowing thatwe're heading in the right
direction.
It probably doesn't seem thatway to a lot of people, but you
and I were both sharing aboutthis, the whole thing about
paradigms and shifting.
There's a lot of paradigmshifting that is happening.
We, everything that we look atin our world, has been built on
(13:00):
an old paradigm of you know, wetalked about dimensional
realities.
Third dimensional reality thirddimensional, is like a lot of
control, abuse of power, fearOkay.
And when these structures arebuilt on that, they're vibrating
and stuck, landlocked in thatvibration of third dimensional.
(13:22):
Well, we are going to fourthand fifth.
Okay, it's no longer analignment, but yet people who
are still here, it's like crabsin a bucket.
You're up here and you'reescaping, the crabs are coming
out, but yet these lowervibrating crabs are trying to
reach for your feet to keep youdown here, and that's what we're
(13:47):
witnessing right now.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
So, and that's why I tell people we need to be
mindful, you know, like, what Iwas saying is what do we put in
our minds?
What are we going to watch onTV, what are we going to watch
in the theaters?
And you know, when I sit backand I look at all the fear
(14:10):
mongering and all the violenceand the gore, because I mean I
know, I don't, I don't look it,but I was born in 68.
So I know what it was like inthe, you know, in the seventies
and, yes, it was completelydifferent than how, how it is
now and, um, but I look at it isI'm I'm glad the way that the
(14:32):
world is raising its level ofconsciousness, Cause, like even
with AIDS, you know, back thenbeing being gay was so taboo.
I mean, it was, it was horrible.
But now we're like, well, ifthat's the way you're born and
that's how you feel and you lovethis person and you're not
hurting anybody, um, it's justlove, there's nothing wrong with
(14:54):
it.
And so, you know, as as aspecies, we are raising our
level of consciousness to bemore accepting, more
compassionate, more, moreforgiving, more optimistic,
instead of everything just beingblack and white, because that
is 3D is.
It's all about fear, power,control and and all about the
(15:20):
self and as a whole.
We need to look at it.
So a good example and I wouldrecommend everyone watch this
documentary is called the Graband it's all about how countries
are.
We're going to have a war onfood because we're going to have
(15:41):
so many people on this planetand how are we going to feed
them?
So there's other countriesbuying a property on Africa and
different areas to grow theircrops and that's where they see
it.
But the real important thing isthere's too many distractions,
(16:04):
as you know, Dolores, in theworld.
So many distractions.
There's like all these minireels and our attention span is
just changing and all of that isdistracting us from looking at
the real truth of what is goingon in the background.
You know, behind you are.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
You are so spot on and it's just like I've.
Actually, I had somethinghappen to me about six months
ago.
I got cyber attacked and theygot into my financials and drain
my personal and checking inwhatever, and they got in
through social media pretty much, and so I had to stop because I
was promoting my podcastthrough doing reels on tick
(16:48):
toxic.
Yeah, all the tick toxic.
It's not tick tock, it's ticktoxic, because it's like exactly
what you said it's aboutdistraction and that is uber
distractive and in fact, it wasso energetically misaligned with
me I was getting like violentlyill just being on it and I had
to stop.
(17:08):
So I you know I want to circleback to this because I think
it's so.
You know we talk aboutcollective consciousness, you
know.
You describe it as somethingyou know, but what it is?
It's collective consciousness,it's a pool of energetic stuff
and I don't think people realizewhat that is and how we
(17:30):
influence and affect that.
Okay, everything starts withself first.
Okay, I don't care if you'reseeing a lot of judging and
criticizing and talks andcollective consciousness, but we
start with that ourselves.
We're very good at judging andcriticizing ourselves.
(17:50):
Yeah, okay, and this is whereit starts Okay, because we judge
and criticize ourselves andthat little pebble our
personality, that idea, whatevergets dropped into collective
consciousness and it ripples outand affects everything.
It's like putting a pebble in apond.
(18:12):
Same philosophy we'recontributing to collective
consciousness Even though we'rebeating ourselves up and you
don't think you're doing that.
That goes into the bigger pool.
So I think and I feel and I knowthis is true that we need to
start being moreself-compassionate with
ourselves.
(18:32):
Being more self-compassionatewith ourselves when we start
going down that rabbit hole ofbeating ourselves up our
awareness.
When you become aware, it'shard to go back to being unaware
.
You have awareness.
Now you can make a differentchoice.
How are you going to changethat?
I find one of the easiestthings to do is just focus on
(18:54):
the word self-compassion,because self-compassion is a
higher vibrating word than fearor beating self up.
When you focus on the energy ofsomething higher vibrating,
you're going to create a higherfrequency where this stuff is
going to fall away and you'regoing to.
When you start having moreself-compassion for yourself,
(19:20):
it's going to be droppingpebbles of self-compassion into
collective consciousness andit's going to ripple and affect.
When people say they can't, theydon't.
They're just one person, theycan't change the world.
I beg to differ.
You have more power than youknow.
You contribute to that changeby who you are being and the
(19:41):
essence that's radiating throughyou because, remember,
everything is energy.
Yeah, and I know, back 50 yearsago people would look at you
like you had three eyes and youwere cray cray, but it's the
truth.
We know through quantum physicsthat everything is energy and
we have more power than you know.
When you're awake, this iswhere you step into your power.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
No, it's not.
You're a hundred percent,because I even did a podcast
about how to silence that.
You know to silence thatnegative inner critic, and how
you do it is by having aconversation with that part of
you that's angry, that doesn'tfeel good enough, that is
(20:26):
wounded.
It literally still is a woundedpart of you and instead of
being an authoritarian parentand telling it to shut up and
leave me alone, what you'redoing is you're nurturing it and
listening to it and learningfrom it and healing it.
And so and it is true Once youreally work on that being
(20:51):
satisfied with yourself, beingcontent with yourself, having
peace with yourself, realizingyou're perfectly imperfect, just
the way you are, when you gointo that 40 human consciousness
area, that inner critic goesaway.
It has nothing to cling on toanymore.
And when someone tries to shameyou or make you feel bad about
(21:16):
yourself, you don't take thebait right.
You literally don't, becauseyou realize that it's not about
you, it's about them, it's theirinsecurities upon you, and when
you have that perspective thatit's not about you, it's about
their wounded parts, now, itthen gives you more compassion
(21:39):
and grace towards other people.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Oh, absolutely, and as long as you remember not to
take their stuff on to heal itfor them, because that is not
your job.
Your job and many people whoare empaths, intuitives and
highly sensitive people, forthem, it's about discerning the
boundary of what that's allabout, because I think for so,
(22:02):
for so many of us.
You know, when we are conceivedin in the uterus, um, and we
become more than the two cells,we become energetic beings.
At that point, oh yeah.
So we are taking on things inhotel, mom, okay, we're residing
(22:22):
for nine months or so, andeverything mom is feeling and
experiencing, but also all theancestral stuff that comes along
with it, okay, so sometimes asenergetic beings, we can't
decipher where we end in.
Something else begins and wetake it on as ours to heal and
fix for our parents, andsometimes when we are born as
(22:46):
well.
This continues that until youget to a point where you feel
like you're not living your true, authentic life and then you
have your I call it yourspiritual awakening and you
(23:06):
realize how it's aboutunraveling all the stuff that
has occurred and it's not like agood thing or bad thing.
It's maybe part of your journeyto allow you to get to where
you are and are going to begoing.
A lot of times we don't realizewhat we're going through and
what we had gone through untilyou're way on the other side of
(23:28):
it and you could sit there andlook back and say, oh, my God, I
could see how that happened andthat led to this and that led
to this.
And you know it's a beautifulthing when you're on the other
side of it and you could witnessthat it's not so great when
you're going through it.
Okay, that's all part of theeducational experience where you
(23:53):
know you're coming to earth toget your PhD and, being human
Right Right, we're all going toget our.
We're all going to get ourdissertation done.
We're all going to graduatewith PhDs.
No, no lie about it, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Well, and I think, too, it's realizing that nothing
is permanent, everything istemporary.
So when you're like for me, Icall it the dark, dark night of
the soul, when I went throughthat, I didn't know why the hell
I was having that experiencewith these particular people and
what, what I mean.
(24:27):
I couldn't wrap my head aroundit.
But now, like you said, when Ilook back at it all, I
understand exactly why.
Oh, absolutely 100% exactly why.
But the beautiful thing is youcan look at it from a 3D
perspective of I'm a victim andthey did this, this, this and
(24:51):
this, or you can look at it isno, that taught me so much about
myself, about other people, andwhy I had that experience,
because then I'm going to use itfor this purpose.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, and you know, and I think the whole thing of
being grateful and appreciativeof those experiences is just
another aspect that people, Ithink, sometimes forget yeah,
okay, because it's about, yeah,realizing that, oh my gosh, it
was like these great lessonsthat I learned, and I learned so
(25:29):
much, you know.
The other thing that makes methink about things too, you know
, when people go through majorthings, sometimes they're just
clinging on to the old way, andwhat I have to tell people is
that you know, as uncomfortableas it is to let something go,
you're getting upgraded.
To let something go, you'regetting upgraded Energetically.
(25:52):
It's like where you're at iskeeping you stuck as to where
you should be and will be in thefuture, right, so it's about
allowing it to, you know, removeitself from your space, no
matter how painful it is, andrealize you're getting upgraded
Because you are.
You're going to be creatingsomething that's more
energetically aligned with whoyou are right now and where
(26:15):
you're going, not where you hadbeen to keep you stuck.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Right, right, yeah, no, it it makes perfect sense,
because I like to look at it asall that lower, dense emotional
energies that get stuck andtrapped with, you know, within
us.
It it's like rocks, rocks thatare just weighing you down,
(26:42):
weighing you down, and when you,when those rocks keep
accumulating and accumulatingand accumulating like anger and
hate and disappointment, and allof that, it builds and builds
and builds and builds, and thenit creates dis-ease within the
physical body.
It really does.
(27:03):
And so I wanted to ask you knowwhat is an energy whisperer?
Because I think it kind of kindof ties into this concept.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Well, thank you for asking.
Energy whisperer was actuallysome title that a couple of my
clients gave to me because I amvery fluent.
I am very fluent.
Okay, if energy was a language,I'd be highly fluent in it,
(27:35):
because energy I could readenergy very well and it could be
a feeling seeing it.
When a person starts talking,it's just like I could see the
energetic unraveling of what isgoing on with that person, of
what is going on with thatperson.
Okay, case in point, if, ifsomebody comes to see me I mean
(27:58):
I see people who have healthchallenges and always, and also
people who just want to makelife changes okay, I tell them
the same thing because it's thesame material, whether or not,
wherever you are on thecontinuum with your health and
wellness.
So, when you're able to whensomebody, for an example, I'm
going to give a real strongexample is that somebody comes
in with, like breast cancer,okay, and they start talking and
(28:21):
you know I it's likeenergetically, I could dissect.
You know, the physicality isjust the tip of the iceberg.
What's below the surface arethe emotions, the thought
processes, the beliefs, yourconnectedness to yourself and
all the other stuff, ancestralstuff, dimensional stuff, that's
below the surface, that isactually unconscious below the
(28:43):
surface, but running the showphysically Okay, cause
everything kind of gets tippedinto the physical when this gets
very overwhelming Okay.
So oftentimes you might findsomebody who you know.
If they're have breast cancer,it's just like you know.
They start talking and I couldfeel energetically where the
(29:03):
blocks are and what is going onand you know whether or not they
experience their emotions, howthey show up in their life,
whether or not they putthemselves as a priority.
It's just like I could tell alot energetically that has
probably contributed to wherethey're at physically.
So it's about looking at thosethings and making the person
(29:26):
have the awareness of this.
It's not about me fixing it forthem, but it's about them
taking ownership and I makesuggestions and teaching them
how to, maybe for the first timeever, learn how to trust their
intuition, because for so manypeople they either have ignored
(29:50):
it, don't even know what, it isbeen told that not to use it
because it's not correct by athird party external.
But it's just like we all havethat innate wisdom within
ourselves to heal ourselves.
Sometimes we have dialed itaway, put it on a shelf, ignored
it, but it's time to have arenaissance and reconnect with
(30:14):
that.
So it's about teaching peoplehow to trust their intuition and
I will give them, like maybefour or five different
possibilities and where theyfeel like they're leaning into,
and then they follow that nextstep and then learn.
You know what I'm saying.
Maybe they need to do someforgiveness work or whatever.
(30:35):
It's just like if that's whatthey're leaning into.
We work on that aspect Becauseyou know more about yourself
than anybody does and whensomebody comes in and says I'm
going to heal you, you're doingthem a huge disservice because
you throw a bandaid on thesituation, because unless they
(30:55):
take ownership and step intotheir power to heal themselves,
it's not going to heal.
So it's about learning how toheal at the core.
So I hope that answered whatyou were to heal at the core.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
So I hope that answered what you were.
No, it did, because what you'redoing is you're teaching them
like.
What I do is how to tap intothe realms of 4D and 5D human
consciousness yeah, andforgiveness is in that bracket.
There is self-acceptance orself-compassion, and they have
to learn the lesson of why did Icreate this within me?
(31:33):
Why did this manifest within me?
So it is taking accountabilityand responsibility and all the
answers does exist within us.
Oh, absolutely Quieter mind.
We go within, we ask thequestions.
It bubbles to the surface andso that's the.
(31:57):
It's like I.
I just interviewed someonerecently where I did a trade
where he wanted to do myservices, so I coached them and
then I made them a customrecording and the way that I
looked at it is, the coachingwas getting the wisdom and the
information on the consciouslevel, but the recording was
(32:19):
designed to get it in thesubconscious mind, to pull out
the roots of what was limitinghim in his life and holding him
back, and he was just like oh myGod, it was, it was, it was, it
was amazing and and a lot of itsometimes, like you said, is
generational trauma.
(32:40):
It's, it's bad habits that havebeen passed down from
generation to generation togeneration.
It gets stuck in us.
It's been proven it can be inour DNA for up to seven
generations, and so that's why,when I do the customs I'm
clearing.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I look at it as I'm taking out the garbage and I'm
raising them up energetically,well of course, and that that
and you know I want to sharethis part of it too, and I'm
sure you're aware of this it'slike when you start doing the
energetic work on your ancestorancestral stuff, it's just like
you have the capability to healup to seven generations in the
(33:22):
past and seven in the future.
So it's a huge gift to yourancestors.
Because I also look at it fromthis perspective, I think a lot
of people who were born impasseintuitives and highly sensitive
people.
They, you know, sometimes theyfeel like this is like the curse
that's been bestowed upon them.
It's not.
It's the true.
You have a true gift.
(33:43):
You're here to heal generationalstuff that's been going on.
It stops with you, right, so itdoesn't go any further.
So you have big you.
You have a big job in thisincarnation.
Yet until you get to the otherside of your stuff, sometimes
you don't realize what is reallygoing on.
(34:05):
And now, since you healed itwithin yourself, you're able to
heal it from, you know, fromthat heel point to through the
ancestral lineage as well.
So it's very powerful stuff and, you know, not every family has
multiple empaths, intuitivesand highly sensitive people.
It's like we're strategicallyplaced in family clans.
(34:26):
It's like you might beconsidered the black sheep of
the family or the weird one.
That's me, yeah, but everybody.
But the thing is, you're therefor that particular purpose and
it really is a huge gift ofservice to your whole family
lineage really.
(34:47):
So you know, it's not for thefaint of heart.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
And it takes a lot of courage.
I mean especially, you know,because, yes, I am a black sheep
and I've always said it andbeen and been proud of it.
It's not easy, yeah, it's noteasy, but I I look at it is,
yeah, I learned a lot about me,you know, and why I came in at
(35:17):
this particular time and what ismy purpose and you know what,
what's my meaning, and beingable to look at the
dysfunctional, toxic people inmy family and still love them,
yes, but agree that I don't haveto like them.
That's a personality preferencebut I can still love them
(35:39):
because they were my greatestteachers.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Oh, absolutely, and I you know, I feel, when we look
at the world from thatperspective, it just gives us a
different possibility.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
You're not looking at from the lens of a victim.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, you're looking at it is.
I came in here for thisparticular reason and purpose to
learn this.
I chose my family.
I chose my parents, you know.
And just because we chose them,it doesn't mean you know, and
just because we chose them itdoesn't mean you know they're
bad or they're flawed or they'reor they're horrid or any
(36:22):
anything like that.
It just means you pick them fora particular reason and the
sooner you can figure out whatit is and and and raise your
consciousness up from you know,feeling victimized and blaming
everybody.
When you raise yourself up,then you're freeing yourself and
everybody around you.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Absolutely.
So.
You know, people.
I think the other concept thatpeople may have a challenge with
is the whole concept of energy,because everything is energy.
Okay, when you and I look ateach other, we see our offices.
Actually, those are denserforms of energy.
Our physicality is a very denseform of energy, but if you were
(37:06):
to put everything that you seeunder a high powered microscope,
it would vibrate.
So it's energy.
Those are the things that wecould feel, you know.
We could see or tangibly feel.
The things that we can't see orfeel are our thoughts, our
emotions, whether or not we'veexperienced them or not, our
(37:28):
connectedness to ourselves, youknow, and also the ancestral
stuff and dimensional stuff andpast life stuff.
To a lot of us have past lifehangovers that we are carrying,
stuff from many lifetimes thatare influencing us now.
That's what we call a hangover.
It's not, didn't happen thislifetime, but it's still
(37:49):
interfering.
That's all energy that maybesome people could see if they're
clairvoyant or clairsent orwhatever, but the majority of
people can't.
They could feel it.
Maybe they could sense it.
Sometimes, when you're in aroom, you could sense what had
happened in the room before, ifit was positive or negative or,
you know, I think the classclass thing is like.
(38:11):
This is a real greatdemonstration how energy works.
We've all had those experienceswhere you've had friends that
are someplace else in the world,thousands of miles away.
Maybe you haven't seen them ina while.
You think about them and thenext thing you know the phone
rings and it's them.
This is how energy works.
Okay, it's waves.
(38:32):
So the thing is is just becauseyou can't see them does not
mean it doesn't exist.
So energy is everywhere and Ifeel that, as people are waking
up to going into the fourth andfifth dimensional realities,
this is going to become a commonawareness now than it had been
before.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah, no, I, I, I fully, I fully agree.
So I'm curious, and I'm sureother people are as well what
programs do you offer?
What do you?
Speaker 2 (39:05):
offer.
I have this program with that Ico host with a friend of mine,
cozy Stan Cates, who is a bodytalk practitioner, and it's
called I'm awake.
Now what it's for those peoplewho had their spiritual
awakening or have realized thatlife isn't working for them as
it had before and now they don'tknow what to do with it,
(39:29):
because sometimes that could bea real scary place, and for many
of us who have gone throughthat decades before, it was a
very scary place because therewas no resources.
So we provide resources, tools,healing a community, and also
weekly talks, 30 minute talks ondifferent topics, and we've
(39:50):
talked about fear, we've talkedabout forgiveness, we've we're
going to probably talk about umjust energy and in general,
tonight we have one tonight.
We usually meet on Tuesdaynights, but since it's um the
holiday and Gracie, my cat, justloves to be around.
She's very, she's a veryspecial kitty.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
She's super sweet.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Oh, she's, she's very sweet.
Um, so that's one thing, and Ialso offer one-on-one coaching
and if you're interested ineither of those things, you
could just go to my website,drdeloresfazzinocom, and you
should be able to see I'm awakenow, what in the header, and
(40:32):
just click on that and it'llgive you more information.
It's a monthly membershipprogram but it offers a lot of
support and a lot of differentresources.
We like to populate that stuffbecause it's nice to have a
place where you could go.
It's like, okay, I need someinformation about forgiveness.
It's just like so we give someresources and stuff like that,
(40:53):
and books maybe that they might,you know, want to want to read
or whatever.
But yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
And I'm going to create a blog post for you that
will have all your um like.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Facebook.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Instagram, linkedin, so people can contact you that
way.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah, cool.
Well, thank you so much, carrie, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Thank well, I'm just I'm really glad I got to connect
with you and communicate onthis subject, because there, I
mean, there's even a great bookout there of um God, was it?
Heal your body?
I mean, that was the first onethat came out, and then the
secret language of your body,all about emotions and how it
(41:33):
creates disease within us.
But we also have the power toyou know heal.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
We do, and you know.
I just want to piggyback onwhat you're saying as well,
because I've been recentlyrevisiting books that I read 30
plus years ago and a series ofbooks by Catherine Ponder on the
dynamic laws of prosperity andthe dynamic oh, love her books.
Oh my God, dynamic laws ofhealing, cause I'm doing it
(42:00):
right now.
It is just amazing because thiswoman I mean her material she's
still alive.
She's like 90.
And her material is timeless.
Even though it was written like50 plus years ago, it's still
very applicable to today andwhere we're going in the future.
(42:22):
So she was, she's a truevisionary she is.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
I remember reading her books when I was literally
in high school and in college um, um, yes, like, and some other
one like your word is your wand,yeah, and the golden path was
another amazing book.
I forget who wrote that one,but oh yeah, I read all these
spiritual books like creativevisualization and learning about
(42:49):
channeling, and oh yeah it'sbeen.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
It's been kind of fun to revisit it like decades
later because you know, I know,for I can speak for myself.
I've gone through so muchgrowth myself.
I have a different lens as I'mreading this compared to what
the lens was before, and it'sjust been highly insightful so
well she has lots of prayers inthere too.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
It's, like you know, really positive healing
statements of what to say.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Oh my God.
So I feel that this, this issomething, if it resonates with
people, to go explore, becauseit's definitely a cool thing.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah, it is Well, thank you, Thank you.
Thank you for being my guesttoday.
Happy holidays.
I enjoyed this conversationwith you, Dolores.
You're welcome, Keri, and Ilook forward to, you know,
possibly having you back andtalking about more stuff,
because this is important, youknow.
I mean people want to.
(43:51):
You know heal and there's waysthat we can start healing
ourselves in a, let's say,unconventional way, but it
should be the conventional way.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
I totally agree.
It's like it's moving intoanother dimension, yeah, which
is it's been a journey in mycareer, but it's.
I'm glad I'm at the point whereI'm at right now, because now I
get to see a lot of the fruitsof the labor that had been done
(44:23):
for so many decades.
So, yeah, timing is everything,especially when you're like,
okay, I'm here, now I'm supposedto do what?
Yeah, you, you know you have tolaugh, because it's just like
you know, the universe and Godhas a great sense of humor and
the thing is, it's like I wantto just leave this one last
(44:46):
thing with everybody pleasedon't ever lose your sense of
humor or your sense of wonderand humor, because because once
you do that, it's over.
Folks, there's a lot to laughabout in this world.
There really is.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
There really is.
Yes, yeah, I say we got to stopbeing so serious, yeah.
Anyway, thank you Thank you,dolores, have a fabulous rest of
your day and thank you.
Thank you, you're welcome.
You're welcome, all right, takecare.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Bye.
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