In this episode of The Threshold, Matt, Brent, and Rich dig into what it means to live well without getting lost in the grind. Rich shares his shift from chasing a big, complicated business to building a “tiny epic business” that supports a big, simple life. Brent reflects on the soul-filling joy of watching the sunrise in the Karoo, the power of shared experiences, and why the best moments often cost nothing.
They explore the idea of being a “reluctant adult” — making deliberate choices to hold on to playfulness, belly laughs, and long-form time with friends in a short-form world. Along the way, they unpack the difference between ritual friends and adventure friends, why fewer but deeper relationships matter, and how live, in-person moments are becoming more valuable than ever.
It’s part philosophy, part storytelling, and part gentle reminder that success isn’t just about money or growth — it’s about designing a life you don’t want to escape from.
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Cardiac Cowboys
The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.