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May 10, 2025 52 mins

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In this episode of The Threshold, Matt, Rich Mulholland, and Brent (Spilly) Spilken dive into the constant push and pull between growth, fulfillment, and the value of time. Rich reflects on the irony of always wanting more work when it's quiet and craving downtime when overwhelmed. Brent faces a tough decision—firing long-time clients who are no longer aligned with his business goals. Meanwhile, Matt openly considers selling his business as he wrestles with burnout, leverage, and what truly brings him joy.

The trio explores the challenge of balancing ambition with sustainability, the concept of "fewer, better" in business and life, and the idea that work should eventually shift from necessity to purpose. They also discuss the long-term implications of AI, financial freedom, and whether wealth in the future will be measured in money or relevance.

If you've ever wondered how to redefine success, step into The Threshold with us.

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