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Creative spirits run wild in this episode as we dive headfirst into the chaotic world of arts and crafts! From transforming cherished t-shirts into memory-preserving pillows to debating the therapeutic merits of sewing, we're exploring the handmade revolution happening in our homes.

Jesse shares his journey into fabric arts, revealing how frustration with ill-fitting clothes has sparked a passionate desire to create custom garments. Meanwhile, I confess my tragic history with sewing machines – apparently, I possess some mysterious power that breaks every one I touch! We laugh about our various craft failures while celebrating those unexpected creative victories that keep us coming back for more.

Beneath the laughter lies an exploration of why we create things with our hands in an age when almost everything can be purchased ready-made. Whether it's the satisfaction of solving problems, expressing our unique personalities, or simply saving money, crafting connects us to something fundamentally human. By the end, you'll understand why we believe crafting is worth the investment, frustration, and occasional failure – even when our dogs try to "help" in the most unhelpful ways possible!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
what's up, gremlins?
Welcome back to another podcast.
My name is jesse james.
I hope everyone is doing it anddoing it well.
You know the drill.
This is the mature mischiefpodcast.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
You know, I'm so sad okay, that came out of nowhere.
What why?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
because easter is already over, and that means no
more peeps this year oh, I wasjust like really it's like
they're who cares, but it wasthe peeps.
It's the peeps.
I thought you were leading witheaster.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm like are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
no, yeah, it's like halloween halloween's over.
Uh, because candy corn, um, Ido.
I do love a good candy corn forHalloween, for the fall, that's
the only time I I do have myseasonal treats.
My seasonal treats are myseasonal.
So Valentine's Day is mychocolates, the hard chocolates

(00:58):
with the sort of variety,flavors and everything.
Those are my favorite onesAround that time.
Then Easter rolls around, thenit's the peeps.
What's after Easter?
Father's Day is the sealetsbabies.
It's.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
I can't with you today, oh my God, I can't with
you today.
Oh my god, I can't with youtoday.
He scared you, oh my god, Ifeel so.

(01:42):
Now he's backing that ass up onme.
Dear lord, sir, he's soaggressive in his freaking
twerking.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
You almost punched him in the face.
I almost did.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
I'm so sorry, babe, I'm so sorry, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Oh god, I know it, you know it, the whole world
fucking knows it.
I like say my name twice.
I am your host, jesse James.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
And I'm your scaredy cat ass.
Co-host.
Dee Dee.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
What it do, sister Dee.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Dear Lord.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Dee Dee.
This has been a really fun weekbecause we've well one.
I've been busy and I've beenkind of a little behind on the
episodes a bit.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
So that's been kind of kicking me in the ass just a
tad bit um, but it's been sofucking amazing, oh my god, and
it just turned into asmr forpeep eating.
Okay, I'll take your word forit.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I don't know what it is.
They're so soft and chewybecause it's marshmallow it's so
much better than marshmallow,though I guess it's a
marshmallow.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I don't like marshmallows but apparently
there's the.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
There's a root that stems that's called marshmallow
root.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Tigger buddy, he was legit trying to lick the pot.
Yeah, he was.
I know he was he's trying toget to it.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Stop it, buddy.
Um, there's a root calledmarshmallow root that they use
to make the marshmallows, butmarshmallows had to stand from
trying to make your gut healthyinteresting yeah, so marshmallow
at the time before they haveall the preservatives, and now
was a preventative or a herbalfor uh, for your gut wow, yeah,

(03:27):
I did not know that.
Yeah that's a good note.
And is it good now for yourgood?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
no, it gives you diabetes bad for your gut and
your grill, all that sugarysugar.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
I know, tell, tell me about it.
But you know, today we're goingto talk about arts and crafts.
Today Very crafty, becausewe've been in a very crafty mood
for a while.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I don't have any dollars, sir, you can stop
giving me a lap dance.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Dude, you're not a drag queen, get away.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I love how your dogs always try to give me lap dances
.
That's hilarious.
It would be awesome if I had alittle container up here for
treats.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
But then they would do it all the time.
So I'm like no, better, notBecause I do it just as a joke.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, he's like peace , I'm like oh, I get a lap dance
.
Cool, here's a treat, dude.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Here's a treat Dude, dude.
You can't have this dude.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
But then they'd be doing it 24-7, so never mind.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
You can't have this.
My mouth was open.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Okay, I'll take it from your mouth.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Sorry, bro Go.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
That's hilarious, Sir .
I know you got food.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
My goodness.
So my pillows are coming along.
Slowly but surely they havebeen coming along.
Today has been kind of a not alazy day, but a day just to kind
of get things done.
I got a few shirts stabilized,which is great.
They looked really, really nice.

(05:03):
I went down to John's placebecause he had a lot of fabric
that he was using, so I'm goingto see how I can intertwine
those fabrics to be able tocreate some stuff, and I
actually found some fabric thatI forgot that I had.
So, dope dude, I just need toiron it out so it's nice and
flat, awesome, yeah.
And then sew it in.
So I'm actually kind of lookingforward to that as well.

(05:27):
Uh, what do you got going on?

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I have a commissioned fifth element painting that I
need to start, but I don't havethe size of.
I've got all these canvases.
I don't have that size ofcanvas so I gotta go and grab
the canvas so that I can goahead and transfer the.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Is it the big, big, big one?

Speaker 2 (05:46):
It's the same size as the one we got last time for my
Mars Attacks painting.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Oh, it's not the big one that will never fit in
nobody's car.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
I wouldn't even know what to put on one of those
things for real, like I wouldlove to have one, but I'm like
okay, but if this is this big,it's going to take up a whole
wall.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
It better be something.
Badass, penis.
What the for?

Speaker 2 (06:09):
your place, sure, uh, for your place.
Can you imagine?
Can you imagine walking in?
And because you have all thatwall space, you have a canvas
that literally takes up theentire wall and it's just penis
penis, yeah penis right when youwalk in penis penis penis penis
penis penis penis penis penispenis those other two dudes that
are there.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
They're not gonna be like what is this, what's this,
what's this?
And then you picture at the endno, sir, we already discussed
this.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
We already discussed this.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
I'm gonna put you at the end of the tip.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
No, just coming out oh my god, please don't.
We already had this discussion,sir.
Multiple times, multiple times.
Once here, once with Javier.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
No, I haven't gotten the magazine yet, so you haven't
given it to me yet.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Wonderful.
Thank you for the reminder thatyou will not get that magazine
now.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
You know what?
That's fine, I'll just print itoff of fucking Facebook.
And you know what?
I will fucking print it out anice big frame.
Better, not I?
So fucking, am you better not?
And I'm gonna put it.
Put a splash of white oh at theend of the you know what you

(07:20):
know, what you know what.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Go ahead.
It's cool.
It's better than putting my mypicture in the damn bathroom and
see.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
So I knew you would see a silver lining.
Yeah, by all means I'm gonna.
I'm gonna make people souncomfortable in my dungeon
because you're gonna be in therewhat the friend, no, sir, no,
that is.
That is really every, everyperson's gonna be looking at you
just smiling be like why isthere a girl in here in the
first?
Place.
Why is?

Speaker 2 (07:49):
she smiling like that ?
Why is there a picture of agirl in here?

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Why is your bestie in here Awkward?
She's a voyeur.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
So my picture's in there.
That makes no sense at all.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Her eyes actually have camera lenses in there, so
give your best performance.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
That is so not awkward at all, at all.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Hey, it's a great crafty idea.
I mean, put your best friendHashtag, put your best friend in
an awkward position.
If you ain't best friend, youain't doing it.
Yeah, yeah, right, ticker rightbecause that's not weird at all

(08:32):
.
No, it's not.
I know know so demanding blessyou uh see, you know, I would
love.
Um, I'm trying to get more intosewing because I realize how

(08:58):
much clothing now these days donot fit me at all.
So even when it comes to beingaround the neck area, it's very
hard.
I either have to go a sizebigger, and the size bigger is
way too big for me, and if I goa size smaller, well, it's too
small and it's choking me.
So I think this is why peopleare like oh, you should get

(09:21):
yourself custom made.
Yes, you're right, I should uhthat's gonna cost a pretty penny
because, clothes as it is isn'texpensive yeah, no joke.
If I had all the money in theworld right now, I'd be at joe
and fabric buying going justgive me everything.
I would be literally just withbaskets full, because they had
this thing where you can onlyget two yards of everything

(09:42):
that's really.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Oh, because they're closing.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, they're closing , why yeah, I would have done
that and then I would have hadlike 10 people with me.
Everyone gets 10, two yardseach, please.
So just like, can you justleave all that there?
They're all going to get thesame thing, and we're just gonna
check out check out that'scrazy though I would fucking

(10:05):
clear out that's still hard.
Yeah, only two yards.
But I had got the dallas cowboyum yeah, fabric.
So I was like you know whatthose will make?
Cute little pillows.
I want to kind of learn how tosew um sequences on things too
as well, so that's something Ikind of want to learn too as
well.
So I want to see how that'sgoing to be, because that looks

(10:28):
like a lot of fun to actually do.
It looks like a pain in the assit really does but it looks
like fun to kind of put thesequences.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
It's time consuming Very, but it can also be
therapeutic, although we knowhow you are when it comes to
hobbies that take a while.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Okay.
So look, I tried my hands inknitting.
That just made me pissy.
I was so pissed off with it.
And jewelry making, jewelrymaking, that was a.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
And chain mailing.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
That pissed me off too.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Anything else we should add.
Leather crafting.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Actually, no, I do like leather crafting.
That's actually a lot of fun.
I just need to understand itjust a little bit better,
because you can't make thingsout of stuff like that.
So, um, leather crafting Iactually do like.
I just don't know how to playwith leather.
So I'm trying to do the wholesewing first so I can just go
into the next phase, which wouldbe leather, so I can understand
, uh, the fabric and the um andthe uh, the animal skin, which

(11:24):
would be the cow, high, raw high, to be able to figure out what,
how to use it properly.
So I'm watching a whole lot ofyoutube videos.
Right now I gotta watch ayoutube video on how to fucking
use my sewing machine.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
So yeah, I wouldn't know nothing about that yeah,
because you don't.
Don't ever let me touch yoursewing machine, don't ever let
me touch sewing machine guys,they do not like, not like me,
they do not like me.
I want to learn them and I havetried and people have trusted
me with them and I have brokenevery single one I've touched.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
I will get you a new one, so you can't break it.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Give me like the $30 kitty one, so if it breaks, it's
not that I'm going to get youthe one they used to have.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
That's going-.
There you go, the handheldstupid.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
I'll take it because if it breaks it's not a loss.
I hate for somebody to buy amachine or give me a machine and
they're like oh, here you canhave this and I'm like I'm gonna
break it.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
I know I'm gonna break it I want to learn uh
embroidery, because that lookslike a lot of fun, but that's an
expensive hobby yeah, it is, myaunt did that for the
folklorego dresses bro yeah,don't get me wrong.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
It looks gorgeous and I'm just sitting there like
holy shit, but yeah, I couldn't,I can't.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
I can do a lot of things, but there are certain
things.
It's a lot of work.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
It's a lot of fucking work.
Dude, I blame you, I can't.
I can do a lot of things, butthere are certain things that
I'm just like nope, it's a lotof work.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
It's a lot of fucking work, dude.
I think one thing that I'mactually finding fun to do is
the t-shirts out of the to makepillows.
I think, that's been a lot offun and I thoroughly have
enjoyed cutting the shirts up,measuring them a bit doing math,
you measuring them a bit doingmath, you know, oh, yeah, yeah,

(13:06):
you know, because I do know math, I just hate it.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
But I totally thought you wouldn't need it anywhere.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
I never said we didn't.
I just said I just hate usingit because I don't like it in
this fucking form of a sentence.
It's just stupid.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
If Jesse has 250 shirts.
Look here, and he sorts out 180, but cuts only 50.
Just kidding, how many pillowscan Jesse make out of the ones
he hasn't touched?
One One, una mas.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
That's funny.
One, una, mas, una mas that'sfunny cause you can only make
one hello, is this thing on?

Speaker 2 (13:55):
oh my god can anybody hear us?

Speaker 1 (13:57):
is anybody tuning in?
7 people are for sure no, wehave 22 now oh my bad we have 22
now 22 people are now, but wehave 22 followers.
We have over 2500 listeners.
That's insane and that's justoff of spotify and that's just

(14:17):
off of spotify.
Thank you for listening.
No, we appreciate you, weappreciate.
So, yeah, let's keep it going.
We must be doing somethingfucking right, because they're
listening to two big backs withheavy breathing and nasally nose
.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
You know what we just ate?
Okay, which was delicious, bythe way.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Bestie here made a spaghetti.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
It wasn't even spaghetti, though.
It was fettuccine with redsauce.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Okay, you're right, he made some red sauce
fettuccine.
Pretty much Still delicious.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
The Italians would hate me right now for doing that
.
Yes, they might, they might.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, if you're listening in, it'd be like
disgraceful.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
I know I just didn't Look disgraceful.
I know I just didn't look.
I'm a bitch on a budget.
I, you could have made ityourself, yes, but eggs are
expensive too, therefore pastais expensive which is crazy
because pasta is so cheap it is,it is, and you know what?
I'm actually quite surprised.
I only needed the one bag.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I didn't, I didn't have to go overboard one bag one
bag you usually would make morethan one bag like two bags that
is insane yeah, well, okay, itwas leftovers right, I was gonna
say I would do that, but in theold house that I lived in
because it was for a wholefamily bitch, we're big bags we
go for seconds like, but thiswas actually pretty good for us
three, so it's actually not toobad.

(15:42):
Yeah, it was just enough.
Yeah, it was just enough for usto get seconds in.
I wish we had more garlic bread, because that shit was fucking
hard Garlic bread's alwaysdelicious, especially the ones
that eat that one with cheese.
Oh, so good yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
So good, oh, especially when you put like
pesto on it.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Dude, when you put pepperoni and a little bit of
marinara in it, yeah and thenyou.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
but if you cut it in, half and flip it on each other.
So it makes the sandwich.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
See, that's the main thing about like put that shit
in a panini press.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Oh, bitch, why did you do it like that?

Speaker 2 (16:14):
because that's how I would do the panini press yeah,
that's how I do fisting too.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
You did the same thing.
I was like I want to do this,I'm just.
Why did you do it like that?

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Because I'm short and I can't like, I'm not tall
enough to push down on it.
It was on the counter, so I'djust grab it and I'd put all my
weight on it, on the handle.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
She's over here putting her arm in a 45, no 90
degree angle and going up anddown and going choo-choo, it's
the same thing, is that what youguys do?
Yeah, go choo-choo.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
You choo-choo of the choo-choo.
With the choo-choo song in thebackground, that is horrible.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
You think I'm joking, or not?

Speaker 2 (16:56):
I know you're not joking.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Except we don't hear the song we hear oh, oh, oh.
You don't even hear the musicMaybe it's your first time.
It's like oh, oh my.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
God, that's hilarious .
People are going to be like wedon't want to listen to your
kinky stories, fuck y'all.
1,200 people, 1,500, 2,700people want to Like how you kept
changing the numbers.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
I'm trying to remember the number I said I
know.
That's why I said I like howyou kept changing and trying to
remember.
And then we have the 22followers who are following us.
I don't know about all theother platforms on who's
following us, I just know aboutSpotify.
I haven't jumped on, okay, uh,that I think.

(17:47):
Overall we probably have about150 followers which is not too
bad and overall.
So there's some people thatlike to listen to our
shenanigans uh, you know, Ithink we're getting a lot of
attractions from overseas.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
This is really fucking awesome that's crazy to
me, like I know, like it's not anormal thing, but for me I'm
just kind of like I told Italked about it last, did I talk
about it?

Speaker 1 (18:08):
or I just told you behind I think, just I think we
told we talked about it afterrecording.
Yeah, okay, yeah we'll talkabout it.
We'll have another podcast totalk about, because I think
it'll be a lot of fun.
It'd be fun to do another uhupdate for everybody.
So because we haven't done thatin a good minute, we we haven't
done an update podcast.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
You're right we could do.
We checked the numbers, but wehaven't shared it with you guys.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
We can do an update podcast.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Cool, yeah, that sounds like a plan.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Shenanigans La, la, la, la la.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Which is only a couple days away.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
You know I, like Styler's, want the fucking big
ass wreath.
Let me get our first house.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
I was going to say it needs to fit.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Well, I'll make it fit.
With enough lubrication, I willmake it fit.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
You know what I meant .

Speaker 1 (19:00):
I know what you meant .
It's just hard to put a wreathoutside your front door without
someone trying to fucking stealit.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Felt.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
So I'm just like, I just don't want to.
I do like it better indoors andI do like it outdoors, because
when you come in and when youclose the door, it just't want
to.
I do like it better indoors andI do like it outdoors, because
when you come in and when youclose the door, it just bam,
yeah, breathe.
You know what I mean.
I love it.
I love it.
I don't think he's made me a.
Yeah, he did make me aChristmas one.
It was the vampire teddy.

(19:29):
Yeah, and he made me theHalloween one.
So I want to commission himmore for valentine's day, easter
and fiesta awesome.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, did you see?

Speaker 1 (19:39):
this his fiesta one I saw the fiesta, one cool
fucking I know he showed me he'slike.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
I saw that I was like whoa same and I was like oh bro
so pretty he's done he's.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
His fucking craft is fucking amazing yeah, it really
is.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, he has gorgeous pieces.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Mm-hmm, I know, and people are like what's your
talent?
I'm like normally sucking dick,but you have to go to my other
page for that.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
That's one of the spicy talents that I'm very
limited at showing off.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
That's your you have to go follow my blue sky.
It's Putt Mongeon, go followthem.
It's no, this guy, it's a puttmangin.
Go follow them.
Uh, it's uh.
No, my talent's actually I.
I do a lot of good crafting, buta lot of it stems from, like,
witchery stuff.
I haven't touched none of mywitch stuff at all whatsoever.
It's been a good minute,because I've I haven't paid
enough tensions to it, and Iprobably should, because a lot

(20:32):
of shit's going down that needsmy full on attention though.
But I'm starting to realizethose cards are starting to
fucking make sense, and Iprobably should, because a lot
of shit's going down that needsmy full-on attention though.
But I'm starting to realizethose cards are starting to
fucking make sense as I go along, because I am struggling a
little bit here and there whenit comes to certain things.
But my crafting I can sew.
I really can, because Iremember when I was sixth grade

(20:54):
it was theater we would makelittle puppets and all, all the
puppets I would fucking make andI used to.
We hand stitched every single,and I remember hand stitching
every single thing.
I liked it because it was verytherapeutical for me to do.
I don't know why that was, butI never.
I never picked it back up again.
You know we, uh, that wassomething I actually liked doing

(21:17):
was the puppets.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
The puppets were really fucking fun, so, uh, I
wish I got to hem a blanket onetime with the thicker thread
that's used for embroidery yeahI got to hem the oh, the giant
tortilla blanket that we madefor my nephew before the
tortilla blankets were a thingoh, no shit I thought it was
hell.
I mean, james was like a littlelike pissed off because he was

(21:41):
like dude, we should make theseand I'm like we totally should
make these.
And then maybe like two yearsdown the road, that's when they
all started popping up and beingpopular and I'm like, oh, guess
what, he's like what.
And I showed him and he's likewhat.
I was like you should havejumped on it when you had the
chance, dude.
Like yeah kind of stuff.
But anyways, he showed me howto airbrush.
We did this little burn spotsin the toes or whatever.

(22:03):
And then I took the rest of theblanket home once it was dry so
that I can hem the entirefreaking round, which was nice
Because, like I said, I'm not asewer, but I learned a
particular kind of stitchspecifically for closing that
blanket.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Right.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
And it was therapeutic.
Like I sat and I remember Iwould get myself some pan dulce
and a cup of coffee because it'slate at night and I put on my
music or whatever, and I'm justthere all night listening to
music and sewing the hem of that.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
I like it because I'm just like dude.
The amount of outfits that Ican fucking make for myself if I
can learn how to do it, itwould be fucking phenomenal,
Because I have a lot of thepatterns that I really want to
work on.
But I just want to make stufffor me and maybe for Hubby too
as well, though, but I want tomake my own dressy shirts
because I'm getting tired oflike I can wear a tie, but I

(22:55):
don't wear ties.
Ties because I have and I knowthis is a me issue um, back when
I was younger, um, the guy hadput I couldn't do it a lot of
the stuff when I was s8 becauseI was choked, so I don't like
wearing nothing closeconstricting constricting me at
all period.
So uh, could never do that, evento this day.

(23:16):
Like if I get a necklace that'sway bigger than me, I'm just
like, oh no yeah no, no, no, no,no.
but the main, uh, prevalence ofit all is that I just want to be
able to kind of make somethingcomfortable for me that fits my
body type, because I'm, there'sa big, there's a big dude that
works with us, that I work, thatI work with and he's a manager

(23:39):
and he's, he has, um, abutton-up shirt and you can tell
it's not meant for him becausethe collar is so huge.
It just looks, it looks funny.
He has a small head with thezbd collar around his neck, his
neck.
It doesn't look flattering atall, in the slightest.

(24:00):
So I'm just like that, justkind of gave me a light bulb,
like I just want to make asweatshirt for you.
Please let me do it.
You don't even have to pay me,just tell me what you want and
if I can make something, fuck.
Yeah, dude, but one of the mainthings I need to get that I
want to get is a mannequin, so Ican lease him a lot of the

(24:21):
stuff and whatnot.
And I found well, I didn't findI stole uh somebody's uh
measurements and how to measuresomething and I printed it out
so I can go and measureeverything the way it's supposed
to and then just kind of makeeverything nice.
I'm just like, oh okay, I gaveone to a uh ab to the roommate
as well, because I know he doeshis own little shit here.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
I was like here.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Um he goes what's this?
I was like it's a measurement.
So if you're doing cosplay orwhatnot, this will tell you
exactly what your measurementsare and it kind of breaks it all
down for you what you need toon that.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
So he was like oh, that kind of sounds like a
pepakira file.
Yeah, we had to have a wholeconverter for that thing too.
If you wanted to scale a piecefor your costume, you had to use
this specific formula to get itright so that when you printed
it out and you put the piecestogether before the fiberglass,
it would actually fit you yeahbecause I think, I think I

(25:15):
printed out a Loki helmet, butbecause I calculated the way I
calculated it, even when I wasputting it together I realized
like it's not going to bewearable.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
I wanted it to be wearable because I'm like I will
put this on.
This is the coolest, I loveLoki, but I can't.
I mean, I would still do it,just to have it on my shelf.
But, in all honesty, in themove it's probably been
destroyed.
I have no idea where it's at.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
I want to wear it's still in paper form.
When you said that I want to goget a body suit, a shapewear, I
want to put one on.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
To help me shape my body just a little bit when I
work out, so I want to see howit feels, because it looks
pretty fucking cool and I wantto like, I want to get rid of my
gut, so.
But I'm trying to lose theweight, though, but I don't have
anything constricting me tohelp me maintain what I eat, so
I'm wondering if that wouldactually help out, because
you're wearing loose clothes,right?

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Right.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
So when you're naturally eating, you're pretty
much comfy, right.
Yes, so eating you're prettymuch comfy, right.
So those who eat of what I fromwhat I hear, those who wear the
fajas and everything andwhatnot and that they have to
like small eat because then itpushes out on their stomach so
much- it will, but I don't thinkit necessarily controls your
eating habits as much as ittrains your body to distribute

(26:34):
its sizes or its curves indifferent areas.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
That's what its main thing is supposed to do.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
And that's what it does.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
That's what race trainers are for.
They literally constrict justthe waist area, so you learn to
breathe laterally rather thanoutwardly.
Yeah, because it's holding ittogether in a way where it's
distributing everythinggradually.
That takes time, it's not aquick anything, but it starts to
distribute your body indifferent places because of

(27:04):
conformity.
That's what it is.
So if you're wearing it supertight, yeah, you're probably
going to restrict yourself fromeating, because it's already
restricting you from evenbreathing in the first place, oh
shit.
There are some where, if you putthem too tight, you will pass
out.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Oh yeah, no, Because you know, I want to go to a
place where I can kind of learnhow to like pick one out that
works for me and kind of justslowly work my body on there,
because when I work out or whenI'm sitting down I kind of need
something to kind of helpconstrict a lot of this stuff
and maybe help out with myposture, because what I hear,
they that's what they do, right,they do, they help you with
your posture and they're goingto help you shape.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
but you have to do the part of the eliminating the
body part, the like, if it's thegut area, if it's the hips, if
it's the chest, whatever, youstill have to do your part with
working out, because you can'tjust target and I know there's
so much shit out there that'slike, oh, get rid of just your
arms, get rid of just your gut,no, no, no that I already know
None of that.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
No, because working out works out everything Exactly
.
There's no such thing astargeting.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yes, and when you lose weight, you lose it
everywhere.
Your body's going to lose itwherever it's meant to.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
You can't just target one place.
I think that would be greatbecause even if I wanted to work
out or work at whatnot, it'sgoing to keep a lot of the
postures, especially when itcomes to like squatting, sitting
, all of that stuff.
But it also will help out thebreathing techniques just a
little bit better, because Irecorded something on TikTok,
because I love making my littleeggs on the little cupcakes,
silicones that I have so muchfun.
I do love that.
It's so much better thanboiling fucking eggs.
By the way, um, if you haven'tgot a chance to do it, do it.
If you haven't seen my tiktoks,go check out my tiktok, since

(28:41):
it's on there.
So I have the little siliconeeggs and everything and I put
them in there and whatnot.
Um, I was listening to myselfand I was listening to myself on
the podcast and I'm just likeI'm like, oh shit, is that me?
Yeah, that's wow, yeah, wow.
But I'm not insecure about mybreathing or anything like that.

(29:02):
It's just it's so funny becauseevery time I'm talking or this
is what happens.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, I notice that when I send voice messages to
people and I hear I listen backto them or whatever.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
I'm just like You're so winded.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I do, but my thing is I talk 50 miles an hour when I
get really into something.
Same dude I would just go offand off and off and then I catch
my.
I'm like, oh, why am I readinglike that?
Because I'm talking to 100miles an hour.
Yeah that's why I'm like stopand I'm like I can't, I can't, I
can't do it but I wanted I havethis envision.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Because I this envision?
Because I want to learn how tocreate and craft the fahas, how
do they do it and whatnot.
It would be fucking nice to seeit, that's metal work, sir.
It is metal work.
But then again, like I said,I'm just someone who wants to
kind of learn new skills, right,because I want to keep my brain
keep going and keep being towhere it needs to be.
I want to shape up my bodybecause I want to wear a full

(29:58):
body suit that complements methe way I want it to be
complimented, kind of like howjennifer lopez wears the full
fucking body suits andeverything and whatnot, kind of
like something like that, butfor more of a masculine figure,
for what I, what I want.
So it's just kind of like I'mI'm always 100, always in the
zone when it comes to creating,uh, trying to create new things

(30:18):
I can't create, like crochets ofa fucking devil or whatnot.
But it did make me think aboutthe patterns of the hood, the
pup hoods, because I was lookingat it and I'm just like I bet I
can make my own pup hood.
I just need to know thematerials that they're using.
I know one of the things thatthe pup hoods they use is what

(30:40):
scuba divers wear.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, the neoprene, the neoprene yes.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Which is great because neoprene.
I think it's really cheap,depending on where you're
getting it.
I think.
I probably would have to get itoverseas?

Speaker 2 (30:50):
That's a good question.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, I don't know how much it is, but I want to
get it because I do want tocreate my own pup hood that
suits me a little bit better,instead of going, okay, large,
extra large and whatnot.
Because anytime I wear my puphood the eyes are not exactly
symmetrical to my face, to whereit needs to be.

(31:11):
So I need to make a neoprenehood that is very symmetrical to
who I am as a person when itcomes down to my hood, and I can
get, if I can get the math downright, look me doing math if I
can get the, the, thesymmetrical part portion of my
face, of what it is, then I canget the neoprene and how I want

(31:32):
to print it out, just to fit myface.
Just fine, right, you know,yeah, and I want to be able to
make the holes a little bitbetter on the ear so I can hear
better, because it's only threeholes yeah, like yeah that's.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I thought that was kind of weird, but yeah three
holes.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
I'm just like, um, I wonder if I can make it a little
bit better.
So if I can find a way to tweakit just a little bit better,
I'd be fucking okay.
But I wonder if the three holesare an accidental thing,
because if you put too many,they're just going to stretch
and then each one of them isgoing to intertwine or they're
gonna, or it's gonna, start torip yeah, in between, because

(32:09):
they're so thinned out.
Next, uh hole between the holesright so I'm kind of figuring
what would it be like, how wouldbe the math, to be able to put
each hole individually apart, soit doesn't yeah I was gonna say
all you got to do is measurethe distance between each hole
and then the holes, the extraholes that you create, need to
be that same distance away fromthose three holes.
I think, yeah, but I also needthe holes you need, and that's

(32:32):
it yeah, I do need the holes tobe exactly on my ears, because
these holes they're not exactlyon my canal of my ear, so
they're a little bit up, likeright above the ear, like right
here on the tip.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
So it's hard to actually hear.
So when I'm doing either a hardscene or hard play and I'm
wearing the hood, I can't hearanything.
So I have to rely on my boy tobe able to do it.
But we'll talk about that onFreaky Fridays because it'd be
fun.
It'll be a lot of fun toactually talk about.
But I want to be able to craftmy own things.
I'm already at 37 years old.

(33:05):
I'm just thinking man, how coolwould it be to be able to craft
my own stuff.
And I haven't.
I've always wanted to cosplay alot and I a lot, and I'm just
like it's so cool to be able tocosplay.
I just don't have cosplay money.
Yeah, but if I can create thethings that I have, then I can
make a word that suits me themost and I don't have to worry

(33:25):
about it at all, I just make itfor me.
But I also wanted to get intothe fashion line and be able to
kind of make my own thing, andme wanting to do fashion, what?

Speaker 2 (33:38):
I know people freak out when I tell them oh yeah, I
have like a three inch binderfull of fashion designs and
they're like but you're justlike, I'm just a t-shirt and
jeans.
Girls, like I know I know, Iknow and they're like, but you
design, I did, it's all stillthere, it's all still there I
actually had a friend whooffered to talk to somebody that
they knew who made clothes andasked if they just uh, they

(34:00):
reached out to them to ask themif they still did uh-huh and
that way they would start makingmy designs oh nice yeah, and
create this whole you knowmiddleman thing where my stuff
would actually be sold in theirlittle boutique thing or
whatever.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Unfortunately the lady had retired from sewing so
yeah I was like boo I kind ofwant to get into sewing, because
these hands are starting to geta little the dude, I dread that
yeah, I dread it only becausethese are my tools these
so I use a lot of these timesand it's not.
It's uh, martial artistsbreaking boards, breaking wood.

(34:36):
They're starting to hurt a lot,so they do get cramps.
I think you've seen my handcramp up before you told me
about it, but I've never you'venever seen it.
Oh bitch, that shit fuckinghurts.
It's like one's cramping thisway and this one's here, and
it's just like all of them arejust like right here and I have
to wait.
It's kind of like pulling acharlie horse in the back of
your leg.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
This shit I remember my grandmother used to get, but
it was usually her thumb.
It would get stuck inwards andshe's just like like.
It looked like it really wasreally hard for her to try to
just pull it out no, you have tomassage like the, you have to
like massage the finger and youhave to take like big, deep, fat
breaths, because, man, thatshit would fucking hurt people,
would just say getting likearthritis or carpal tunnel

(35:14):
because I do so much shit withmy hand the piano, the playing,
the piano I was always afraidlike just please don't ever get
carpal tunnel I mean I wonder ifeverything is stems for
something else, because I'm justlike I need to sue somebody for
it, because I noticed, um, whenI open water bottles uh-huh,
just a regular water bottle thisfinger it starts.

(35:36):
It starts to hurt and I'm likeit's always the right thing I
can know I can open some thingsthat some dudes can't, and all
of a sudden a water bottle ishurting my finger.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
I'm like please don't , please don't start with this
finger like my fingers arestarting to hurt just thinking
about it.
I'm just like I know I'm likedude, did I injure myself?

Speaker 2 (35:54):
I just injured myself , right, like why does it hurt,
like that.
And I'm like, oh, please don'tstart, please don't start.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
But that comes with old age, because I don't think
there's a medicine or anythingfor Carpotan and I do have to
like squeeze a stretch ball.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
You can take inflammatories just to kind of
like slow the process down asmuch as possible, much as
possible.
But the inflammatories that Ihave I was afraid to take
because they come with a highrisk of um heart disease.
Like they up the risk a lot andI'm like and I'm like, yeah,

(36:27):
let's not do that, because myfamily history is heart issues
I'm like yeah, let's not do thatyeah, but I'm just like, just
like heart issues, arthritis,heart issues, arthritis Diabetes
is in there somewhere.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I'll take the arthritis.
I do need to slow down on thesugar because my sugar levels
have been like doctors are likeyou're borderline diabetic and
you're pushing it.
I'm just like fuck.
I think that's why I kind ofstopped on the sodas a bit.
That those dr peppers the firsttime I opened them and hubby
got them from a while.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
So yeah, I was gonna say I drank it and it.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Just I'm gonna say I'm telling you it doesn't taste
the same I may just very weird,I hate to say it, but I may
just have to go to the the zerosafter for a while period like I
love what you say, like I hateto say it, I'm like, I'm just
not a big diet person.
I'm just, I'm just not.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I don't like I just think it's funny because, like
you say, you're like I have tolike.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
It's such a it really is for you to go from regular
to diet or to zero or towhatever it's just gonna suck
period, because I know thatafter eating these peeps and
whatnot candies, chocolate,desserts I think this is why
when I was, uh, when I wasliving, I just said no more
sweets in the house because itforced me to.
I, if I wanted something, I'meither going to have to go out

(37:44):
and I don't feel like goinganywhere and I don't have
anything sweet, so I need tofigure out the fruits and all of
that stuff was my way of copingwith the sweetness and whatnot.
And I was doing very wellbecause in wrestling I did, I
didn't have sweets for likealmost six years.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
I'm just like, ooh, I can't, that's just I don't
think I can do not having sweet.
I'm fine with the Coke.
Like I said, I went two yearswith zero Cokes not a single
drop and on the off chance thatI did like, my nieces and
nephews would have somethinglike can I taste it?
Or they would even know they'dbe like hey, do you want to
taste it before I start?
I'm just like, yeah, I'll tasteit.
You know what I mean.
And I'm just like it was justreminders of like, why the hell

(38:24):
am I drinking it?
But you get addicted.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
It's the yeah, so I'm trying to also cut back on the
carbs, because a lot of mycholesterol and high cholesterol
carbs are coming from the carbstoo, and the sugars too as well
diabetes, but I'm just likefuck yeah, I'm like damn, I just
bought like a shit ton of packof fucking ramen noodles to ease
like a lot of my appetite,because I'm just like it's
becoming a fucking ramen noodlebudget lately and I don't like a

(38:46):
ramen noodle budget.
It's killing me, yeah, but I'mtrying my best on there.
So, um, it's just like shit.
I don't.
I don't honestly don't know.
Yeah, I hate it.
It's you.
It's just like shit, I honestlydon't know.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
I hate it.
You're going to have to trainyourself to just learn how to
eat less and be more satisfiedwith things that aren't carbs.
That's the shitty part.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Well, it's kind of hard because you and I we hang
out, we love pizza and if I hadto cut back on pizza a lot to
not be able to have it no more,because that's my true weakness,
and the macaroni cheese and thefucking ramen noodles, like
that's why I ate a lot of, likea lot of these uh chicken.
I did a lot of the uh saladsand everything and I would cook
it, I was bake it and I would beable to do all of that stuff

(39:29):
and whatnot.
And I can still do it.
I know I can, but it's likeeverything has become so
expensive and it gives me suchsuch a high anxiety because if I
go, if I go buy fruit andvegetables, they're only good
for a week.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yep, you know some things you can freeze, still,
you know I'm gonna say so youget frozen or you freeze them
yeah, so if you freeze them, yougot to blanch certain ones, and
then you have to blanch them atdifferent degrees and varying
whatever, and I'm just just like, yeah, that's too much work bro
.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, so I would make smoothies.
I would make fruit smoothiesall the time and I would put
like I would buy the almond milkvanilla, because when you're
crafting a drink for myself,just in case we're not going off
a subject here, all of this isabout crafting.
Still crafting meals man, yeah,still crafting meals.
So I used to do meal preps alot and I hated it.

(40:20):
I hate fucking meal preps andthe reason I say I hate meal
preps I hate leftovers, I reallydo, you do I hate leftovers and
some there's some leftovers.
I can do like I was doing the umuh the fideo, because I haven't
had for the own forever.
It had the fucking, thegizzards in there.
I'm just like, oh, so good.
Uh, because I had the fideo inthere and it was really good and

(40:45):
I had made a lot of it with thechicken and everything.
I was gonna eat that for awhile, never touched it.
It stayed in the fucking fridgefor almost four weeks and I
just tossed it out the other day.
I'm just like you know what?

Speaker 2 (40:58):
I don't mind meal prepping, I don't mind eating
the same things day after dayafter day, but the one meat that
I do not like meal prepped orto eat afterwards, is chicken
chicken.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Yeah, it gets a weird ass taste and I, because you've
already cooked it to a nicetender temperature Once you
reheat it again.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
It tastes funky.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
It's more rubbery, because you, now you, I don't,
it's not, it's a funky taste,because it's a.
It's a rubbery, funky taste.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
I don't mind the texture, I don't mind if it gets
dried out.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
I do Rub, I don't mind the texture, I don't mind
if it gets dried out, or rubberyor chewy.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
My thing is the flavor.
Okay, when you eat a piece ofchicken that is near the bone,
especially if the marrow seepsout and there's the maroon or
the red that taste the gameychicken, the chicken gamey taste
I don't like it.
I know that's so, like bougie,but I don't like it right.
And I noticed even when youcook.
I think the only the only onethat doesn't do it is chicken

(41:58):
breast, but not necessarily allthe time right but when you cook
it it's gravy, but when youreheat it it gets that taste,
even if it was boneless.
And I'm like why does it tastelike this?
It's so gross.
It doesn't matter how muchseasoning I put in my damn meal
prep, you can taste it.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Same thing with meat Meat when you first cook it.
I can't.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
I don't have an issue with red meat, it's only the
chicken.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
No, I have an issue and pork oh, pork yeah.
Reheated pork no, pork andchicken go hand in hand on that.
Even with red meat, if I put itback in the microwave to boom
it or to nuke it, and I get itout, it doesn't have the same
consistency.
I think it's because I'vealready.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Well, I don't like anything.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Well, no, it's like.
That's why I kind of hateleftovers, because I like things
fresh.
I love fresh food, fresh meat.
I think that's why I go out toeat a lot when I'm at work is
because I like a fresh fuckingmeal.
Yeah, when I'm at work isbecause I like a fresh fucking
meal.
So if I meal prep and I got tothrow it in the fucking
microwave, I'm just like this isjust going to be a fucking
waste because I'm not going toenjoy it the way I want to.

(42:57):
So if I'm going to meal prepfor lunch for work, I would have
to do a salad, a cold salad,but I would make sure that it's
very filling and it wouldconsist of the chicken, because
I can do leftover chicken that'scold because I'm already
shredding it.
It has the seasoning that Ineed in there Because it's cold
and it's cold.
So I can just do it like that,yep, and that's fucking perfect,

(43:20):
because I can season a fuckingcold chicken.
Yeah, meat.
On the other hand, I can't doLike red meats and everything I
can't do cold.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
I used to do uh pizza cold, but not anymore, but now
it's just kind of like pizzaanyway.
So I did learn how to makefathead pizza.
So when I was doing the keto Ididn't have any kind of carbs in
my pizza you know my favoritecardio, uh, keto meal was for
pizza with a piece of casseroleoh yeah, that's it.
Yeah, because it's just, it'sjust it's just nothing but

(43:52):
toppings.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
That's it, and I'm okay with that.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
I like the fat head, though I don't know why I liked.
I like the almond yeah, I likea fat head too because that's a
bit not that kind of oh my godthat, save that for freaky
friday, dear lord, talking aboutthe damn fathead pizza fool hey
, so am I, so am I, so am I.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
I like a good Italian .
You walked into that one, I did, I did.
You know what the?

Speaker 2 (44:24):
only reason I made the fathead pizza is because one
day I was able to get a redmill uh, almond flour but the
grainy kind, and that was myfavorite, I learned how to make
my own bread slices that weren'tactually bread, because it was
almond and egg, um.
And then I made the fatheadpizza with that, and I don't

(44:46):
remember where I got it or what,but I was just like it was
cheap and I was like hell yeah.
And then when I went back to goactually buy some, that thing
is like $20 for one pound andI'm like, yeah, I'm never having
that again.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Yep and yeah, you know, joke I.
I probably can do a lot ofgluten-free stuff.
But if I'm gonna do gluten-freeI'm gonna make it from scratch.
Only reasons becausegluten-free to buy anything
gluten-free.
I'm going to make it fromscratch.
Only reason is becausegluten-free to buy anything
gluten-free it's expensive.
I rather buy the flour.
It may be a little bitexpensive to buy the flour, but
I can make a shit ton of thingswith it.
You know what I mean.
So I have the ability, thecapability to be able to do that

(45:23):
, but it's just being able tocraft that.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
I have all the fucking cookbooks and recipes
that I need here to do whateverthe fuck I want.
Yeah, it's affording the actualingredient.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Yeah, I can't tell you how many times I bought the
fucking ingredients.
I'm like, yeah, we're gonnamake something.
Oh, by the way, you got this,this, this, this.
Oh man, I gotta fine fine fineI hate it.
I remember the french bread Imade and that was fucking
delicious.
I was actually quite impressed.
I made that by scratch.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
I'm like, okay, now I try making tortillas from
scratch and lord no I think I'veonly done that like maybe a
handful of times, but it waswhen I was way younger.
So, in all honesty, if somebodyasked me to make tortillas here
and now from scratch, I'd belike I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Bro, I don't, I really don't my grandma gave me
her recipe for her uh bonnetpotable.
I couldn't.
I want to craft her bonnetpotable so fucking much because
I do like it.
I just don't have the time orthe patience to do it.
I just don't, I don't.
I love cooking in the kitchen.
I, I would love to bake.
I'm remember taking uh uh homeec in high school.

(46:40):
That was a lot of fun I nevergot to take home ec no I've
always wanted to take wood shotbecause I've always wanted to
learn how to make do the woodyeah, my friends dang, I think I
got my friends took home ec.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
I never took it.
I I don't know why, but Ibecause you were a natural
editor.
I was gonna say like I did itall day, every day, at home.
So the hell was I supposed tolearn.
I mean, I should have taken itbecause it would have been an
easy credit, but still I thinkwhen I'm making in the kitchen I
would love to make.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
My favorite thing to craft the most is fucking
hamburger meat.
I'm a big sucker for hamburgermeat.
I love a good fucking burger.
I just need my burger to befucking.
I need the meat.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
The actual patty to be seasoned, because nobody
fucking seasons their pattiesanymore.
I can't cook a burger thatisn't.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
I will say even burger boy, ifyou just eat the patty by itself
, there's no seasoning, there'snone.
It's just what people aretending to doing is that it's,
it's juicy, so they.
What they're doing is basicallythe, the, the meat to fat ratio
on it.
So the juicier the burger, thebetter, and it's very lightening
seasoning.
But because their stuff alreadycomes in already um, already

(47:59):
has all the um preservativesalready in it and that's what
makes it the juicy flavor.
But when you go into theseplaces like babes and all that
stuff, they probably do make itfrom scratch they're missing
flavor in the meat.
But because the meat doesn'thold a lot of the flavor in it
these places like babes and allthat stuff, they probably do
make it from scratch.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
They're missing flavor in the meat, but because
the meat doesn't hold a lot ofthe flavor in it and sometimes
you're missing a lot of it true,and also there's not a lot of
flavors that people can use formatt for the public yeah,
because of food allergies,exactly food allergies so, even
even if they wanted to, they'revery limited, yeah, they're very
limited, on what they can andcan't season their shit with

(48:32):
Because you got to put a fuckingwarning label of food allergies
for everybody and that's wherethe condiments and everything
come in, because you hand thepeople here.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Make it as good as you want it to be See one of the
main things I learned that withto put in your meat is onion.
If you put chopped, diced onionand you throw it in your meats
and then you just cook itbecause of the glaze of the
onion, the worcestershire, theum, the egg, uh, we put a little
bit of egg, I put a little bitof egg in there everybody.

(49:02):
That way it's stick, yeah it canstick, so, but in order for me
to better yeah, in order for meto get nuts, make sure it's not
so sticky, right, I do put alittle bit of crackers, yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
I will blend the crackers.
If you put an egg, you have toput some kind of crackers or
toast or breadcrumbs orsomething, because that's what
makes it stick together.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
It makes the patty stay a patty and not fall apart.
No one does that.
Oh, of course not.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Because it's meat, because if they put crackers or
breadcrumbs or whatever, then itcan't be safe for some people's
consumption, because, again,the whole gluten thing.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
You know, I don't know If I ever had a burger
joint or a restaurant, I wouldhave to put that Because gluten,
like food allergies, I get thatpeople want to be catered to
all of that.
I don't know if I'm somebodywho would cater to that.
I would just let people knowlike, hey, we have, we make our

(50:02):
shit scratch from scratch and ifyou have a gluten allergy, if
you have this allergy, this,this, and I get that.
I'm going to be very limited towhat customer retail, which is
fine, because then the ones whoare coming in who want a good
burger can have it.
But if I can try to recreatethat without having the
allergies, then I can do it on aseparate grill for somebody

(50:24):
else so it doesn't crosscontaminate at all whatsoever.
So it's kind of like.
This is why I'm kind of playingwith my burgers a little bit,
because I want to make sure,okay, if I'm doing this and have
food allergies for thisparticular person, what could I
add in there that people are notgoing to like?
If it's onion that people can'thave, how can I make another
burger that doesn't have anyonions in it?
How can I make one with thegarlic, or how can I do one like

(50:46):
oh, we'll just use seasonal,but seasonal has everything.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
So it's like I mean, it depends.
Like I said, you can't cater toeverybody.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
You can.
That's just kind of the hardthing though.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
But at the same time you have to make it for
everybody to be able to consumesafely.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Exactly so.
I think that's why they put theallergy is like everything, All
the ingredients that are listedin there, which is funny
because you can put all theingredients but it don't tell
you how much ingredients.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
No, but by law, when you list the ingredients, it is
by percentage, so whatever's atthe top is what it has the most
of.
By law.
That's what every label mustinclude Yep.
That's why, when we were lookingfor the seasonal, if you look
at all the seasonings, theflavored, flavored ones, the
very first ingredient is salt,because in that bottle, majority

(51:33):
of that seasoning is salt thesecond one will tell you what
there's the second most of, andthe third and so on, and so so
whatever's at the bottom, that'swhat they have the least amount
in there that's, that's everylabel for any, anything,
anything at all.
We grab a can of coke right nowand you look at the ingredients
list.
Whatever's at the top is whatthere is most of.
Whatever's at the bottom iswhat there's the least amount of

(51:56):
.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Oh shit, I learned something new today.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I had to in order to label my handmade cosmetics
properly.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Ah, okay, it's something that I had to follow
too.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
So if you look at my ingredients list, you'll see
that my main you know my base ismade of titanium dioxide and
whatever, and at the end it'ssilica, or you know what I mean,
like whatever.
There's like two percent inthere, yeah.
So guess what I had to do?

Speaker 1 (52:24):
a lot of math you know, yeah, to figure out the
stupid percentages so that I canabide by the law, ridiculous it
is it is ridiculous but that'snot including the, the math for
the formulas.
Oh my god, that kills me I'mlike, can I just have a?

Speaker 2 (52:41):
scientist for this part, please.
Like I, I love playingfrankenstein.
I really do but I don't like todo the math part.
It's like you do the equationsand I'll do the mixes.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Yeah, exactly, uh.
But you know, I think it's oneof those things I just I it's
fun to make and I know that thelast podcast we did with how I
was so heated with math, butit's what we need it we do need
it it's for everything,including building buildings.
Remember, shut the fuck up Iwere good until you got to that

(53:10):
part.
We were good until you got tothat part.
We were good until you gotthere.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Dude, you need it for everything.
Why was building supposed to beexcluded?
That needs to be the safestshit ever.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
That's why you build it.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
And you're like no, no.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Yes, what do you mean ?
Do they have to put it in asentence structure as to what
it's gonna fucking be like?

Speaker 2 (53:37):
no, the construction company has 420, two by threes,
two by fours how many whoa, whoa, whoa?
How many did you?

Speaker 1 (53:47):
just put a sentence with numbers because
motherfucker put it on the board.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Just just write it on the board for me, please thank
you how many 12 foot two byfours are they gonna need per
floor?

Speaker 1 (53:59):
per floor like give me break it, charlie dude, break
it down for me, man yeah, Icouldn't.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
I'd help my uncle and my grandfather whenever they do
construction, but don't ask meto do the math part.
Nope, they did it and I'm likecool beans because I ain't going
to do it.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Bitch, I can do simple math, that's it.
I know that one plus one equalstwo.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
I can do simple math and I know two plus two equals
four.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
I just didn't want to .
I know that I'm I'm just thesix.
So if I was flexible, I wouldbe the folding six.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Dear Lord no the folding nine.
You'd be the zero.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
I'd be Tigger.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Tigger's, your spirit animal.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Tigger is he's every gay person's embodiment of it's,
of everything he's every dudespirit animal.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
How about that?

Speaker 1 (54:56):
he really is, he's every dude my, my oldest dog.
I'm gonna miss that.
If he has ties, he just humpshis mouth in a fucking circle.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
I'm just like that's that's beautiful that's
beautiful movie like what isyour dog?

Speaker 1 (55:12):
oh my god, yep he goes around in circles he's
servicing himself yeah, hereally does.
He pays himself from biscuitsand kisses he will.
He will hump his own mouth andcome and give you a kiss hell to
the no sir.
Like licking and sniffing buttsisn't bad enough he licks his

(55:34):
own buttholes to pop his ownanal glands.
So hey, this is why I'm justlike when he puts his tongue
like and he times it, he timesit.
That dog is not fucking stupid?

Speaker 2 (55:46):
he's all in the mouth he really is.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
He's literally umatherma with the fucking eye
thing.
Just snatch it nice yes, he'she's pie made like fucking
taking out your motherfuckingeye.
Dude.
Just that's how fucking fast heis.
That dog will fucking like boltat you trying to get you a
french kiss and all man you saw,you did, you order the works.

(56:13):
Literally delivery in the mouthI'm like, bro, you can't, you
can't be licking your ass likethat and trying to give people
kisses.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Dude, don't be licking your ass and that and
trying to give people kisses.
Dude, Don't.
You can't be licking your assand servicing yourself and
popping your anal glands and belicking people like that.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Bro, there are some hard limits.
I'm not into bestiality at all.
Dog.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Nobody is what's up French.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Apparently, tigger doesn't know that, because he
wants a french kiss everyfucking person that comes in
this motherfucking home and hewants to get between your
motherfucking legs and then hewants to get into yeah,
literally my germs.
He wants to lick your buttholetoo.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
No privacy sir, away from my genitalia please
everyone's like do you walkaround naked?

Speaker 1 (57:09):
No, you cannot walk.
No, not in this apartment,until he dies.
You may have a good chance youmay be able to walk around naked
, because the other two dogs aresmall, so they can't reach.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
The best they can do is maybe reach your calves.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
And if your balls are hanging low enough, they may
just be a cat.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Maybe Mooshu.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Maybe Mooshu Maybe.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Mooshu.
Maybe Mooshu he's like oh looktoys, I need a toy.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
You know what's a really fun toy, but there can't
be no glass and I mean no glassaround or any type of breakable
things.
A racquetball you throw thatracquetball in a fucking empty
space.
Those dogs go fucking haywirefor it yeah I had a, we had to.
I still have this racquetballthat tigger used to have a long

(58:06):
time ago and it survived fornine years straight and it's
still going strong.
I don't know Something aboutthe racquetball that I can just
throw it and just and he's justgoing for it.
I'm just like.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
That's why, because it's a never stopping toy, yeah,
I'm okay with that.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
I think if I ever had the money for it I would build
a racquetball court just for mydog so I can just toss him in
there with a little cannon Justwatch him go crazy All the
racquetballs you can ask for.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Can you imagine Pretty much I have a freaking I
got the fucking ball pit that Ihave with all the balls.
Oh, that's right.
Did they ever play with that?

Speaker 1 (58:41):
No.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
You never set it up for them.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
How.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
You can push the couch back, bitch, that's too
much fucking work.
The couch back to the boys.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Bitch, that's too much fucking work.
Child of a dude.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Push the couch back and get them a pool.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Nah, dude, a fucking pool in this apartment.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
A little kiddie pool fool.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Bitch.
Those kiddie pools are stillbigger than this fucking living
room.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
No, it's not.
Yes, it is Bitch.
They're like four feet diameter.
How are you going to act?

Speaker 1 (59:08):
But anywho, that's the end of our podcast.
I do appreciate y'all tuning into the craftiness of our
stories and the do's, the don'ts, the woes and everything else
in between, because you know,crafting is a bitch more of the
story crafting is fun.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
How dare you uh moral of the?

Speaker 1 (59:25):
story here moral, moral of the story one more time
.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Moral of the story one more time moral of the story
do it in slow motion moral ofthe story.
I have not met a single personthat doesn't actually follow
that directed the moment Ifucking say it no, for real not
a single person, and I love it.

(59:48):
Every time I'm like I'm gonnarun into somebody this and be
like no, I never do and I neverdo, and I love it, I love
everybody, everybody that I'veever said that wait, do it in
slow motion and they'll do it.
People don't even think, theyjust do it.
And then everybody's laughing.
They're like I hate you and I'mlike you're the one that
followed it I know I didn't makeyou, I just said it you're the
one that did it.
Moral of the story can youimagine doing a whole episode

(01:00:13):
like that?

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
a bitch if people would fucking quit on us quickly
yeah, they would we'd be thesloth from fucking.
Oh god, zootopia no, I wouldlove to see a podcast with him.
I would fucking love to see apodcast the voice actor who does

(01:00:35):
him?

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
and just I would I would start to be like can I put
this on like two speed, get onthree, five, ten you probably
would have to put on ten speedjust to fucking hear normally,
yeah, I wouldn't be able to dude, I would not be like hurry up
and get to the damn point.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Anywho, thank you so much for tuning in for the mitch
or mischief podcast and I doappreciate I wouldn't be able to
dude, I wouldn't, I'd be likehurry up and get to the damn
point.
Anywho, Thank you so much fortuning in for the Mitcher and
Mischief podcast and I doappreciate every single one of
y'all for tuning in all over theworld and I appreciate every
single one of y'all.
And of course, the moral of thestory is crafting is expensive
bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
I will not disagree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Exactly.
I'm not gonna say fuck crafting, because hell.
No, we need it sometimes wefuck around crafting um, but
anywho, I love y'all.
Bye.
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