Older, Wiser, and Still Wondering Why Math Exists

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Nostalgia hits different when you've got a few decades under your belt. Jesse and DeeDee take a meandering journey through the cultural touchpoints that defined their younger years while examining how perspective shifts with age.

Remember Tejano hits like "Charanga" that made everyone from your abuelita to your baby cousin lose their minds on the dance floor? We revisit these musical memories and laugh about how our bodies now protest when we try to "drop it like it's hot" – which is more like "drop it like it's lukewarm" these days. The hydraulic press motion of getting up after attempting to dance becomes all too real when you're pushing 40.

Our conversation drifts through carnival rides we can no longer enjoy without worrying about blood pressure, foods our palates have grown to appreciate (oysters: delicious or "sea boogers"?), and the sobering realizations that come when historical narratives we learned in school unravel with adult understanding. The Battle of the Alamo and Christopher Columbus stories hit different when you learn the complete context.

The episode culminates in a spirited debate about mathematics education and standardized testing, revealing how our perspectives on learning evolve alongside our aging bodies. Is math necessary? Do standardized tests actually measure intelligence? These questions spark passionate discourse between hosts with different learning styles and experiences.

Whether you're feeling the first creaks of aging or well into your wisdom years, this episode offers both laughter and thoughtful reflection on how time shapes not just our bodies, but our minds and hearts too. Listen, laugh, and perhaps reconsider what "dropping it like it's hot" means for your current stage of life.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
what's up, gremlins?
Welcome back to another podcast.
My name is jesse james.
I hope everyone is doing it anddoing it well.
You know the drill hill.
This is the mature mischiefpodcast.
You know, today's wednesday,we're hump day.

(00:24):
We're getting I had to I thinkit's just so funny.
I think it's so funny everytime you say I know where it's
from too.
Yeah uh, what was it?
It was the geico commercialright, the camo right I love
them because it was always thatone that was.
That would holler it in thebackground sorry if you hear us

(00:48):
we're eating on cake cake.
It was actually really cool,because it's those brady crocker
ones that you put in like yourcoffee mug and you throw it in
the microwave for like a minuteand a half mug cakes, mug cakes,
mug mug mug, mug, mug, mug,like your fugly, mug Mug.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Mug.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Mug Mug.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Like your fugly mug.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Damn Fuck, Not my ego being burned.
She called me ugly.
I mean, it wasn't directedtoward you, but I looked at you.
I mean I'm the only one sittinghere.

(01:28):
Who else is sitting here?
God damn, I love it.
My bad, I know it, you know it,the whole world fucking knows
it.
I like saying my name twice.
I am your host, jesse James.
And I am your co-host, dd yo ddwhat to do, baby girl yeah, no,

(01:50):
sister d a bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I was getting there and you beat me to the punch.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Nope, what do you do, sister d?
Nope oh come on, it's not thesame.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yes, it is because I already said no.
Now I know what to do you keepstealing my?

Speaker 1 (02:01):
I get to kill it.
You keep stealing my thunder.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
I get to kill it now, woo-hoo.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Nuh-uh, I'm still going to see it.
It's just a D up in his house.
Oh crap, oh my God.
You know I was kind ofreminiscing through a lot of my
music things, through a lot ofmy music, and I was going

(02:31):
through a lot of old like thehano music, like way, way back
in the day, like for us maybemiddle school, and um, it was uh
, chiki tiki boom.
Uh, I was listening to it theother well, I was.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
We were listening to a that's middle school dance.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
If anybody knows who's in the Latin and Tex-Mex,
the Hano music, if you will.
It was one that was actuallypretty, one of those.
I don't know the band's name,I'll spell it it's.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
O-X-Y-G-E-N-O.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Oxygeno.
Is that what it is Oxygeno,oxygen.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
It's actually pretty cool, because we were listening
to it the other day and therewas a song that was stuck in my
head and it was this damn songthat just popped up out of
fucking nowhere.
Do you remember?
Have you seen what is it InsideOut?
Mm-hmm.
Okay, you know how they bringthat one random song up to that
girl and it's always playing forher.
Yes, that's what it was.
It just fucking popped up outof nowhere.

(03:29):
I'm just saying okay, what wasthat song?
It?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
was a random core memory for you.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, dude like hardcore, like it got me going.
Okay.
So it's this song here I'm justgonna play like a real quick uh
synopsis of it, really quickly,okay.
So if you remember that song,that was that song that
everybody would listen to andthere was another one, uh,

(03:55):
charanga, oh god was the otherone.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Oh, my god charanga was funny charanga man Charanga
was funny.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Charanga was fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Charanga was funny too Charanga To watch yeah, to
watch the dance floor from thesidelines was the best when that
song came on, Everybody was.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
That was the-.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Especially if it was at like quinceanera or weddings
with very Mexican heavy andeverybody.
It was late into the night soeverybody had already had all,
all of their drinks.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
What would charanga be now for?
Like pop culture?
What would be the what like thechacha?
No, not the chacha.
Slide the tootsie roll no no,because it's not.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
It wasn't an actual no, it wasn't a guided dance.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
No, it wasn't a guided dance, but there was just
one part that everybody wouldgo crazy on, because yeah the
because the speed, the speed ofit let me see or
just hit it hold on real quick.
I'm gonna pause this for amoment, okay.
So I found it and it's it'sfunny because it's like one of
those songs that just hyped up alot of the mexicans so, and
then I found it, so we'll playthe small little course here

(05:00):
really quickly.
It was this part right herethat everybody went fucking that
shit crazy for, so it was thatpart.
So it was.
It was just that one part thateveryone would listen to and
everybody was everybody'sdancing, the normal kind of
dances like it was the lanedance that one part was just

(05:24):
that, and then everybody wouldstop, yeah, and then we get down
and try to like fucking grind.
And it was your, it was yourabuelita, it was your grandma,
it was your yeah, it was yourmom.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
It was you and your diapers and your primas your
primos man.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
That song just fucking went hard, man, and they
still played at Quintinillas.
I don't know, did they stillplay at Quintinillas?
You still do that whole thing,or whatnot?

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I do, but I haven't heard the charanga in forever.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Really, I haven't heard it either.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
But yo charanga was fucking, they played.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Tejano, but not that far back.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, not that far back, we were talking about it
earlier too.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
I just want to get a U-Haul.
Oh yeah, I just want to rent ahome.
Everybody just comes in.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
No, no, I want you to fit everybody into a U-Haul, a
fucking U-Haul.
Maybe, an A-Tune I want you tohang a disco ball in the middle
of the seating of a.
U-haul.
I want you to line it withlights and let everybody cram in
there.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
And then we just drive around.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
And then play charanga.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Charanga, yep, and then just watch that fucking
thing flip over, yep, thing,flip over.
I want to rent a, a hall, adance hall, at least big enough,
and just have a.
What is a song?
Like three minutes and 31seconds of people just dancing
the charanga.
That's hilarious.

(07:01):
This is I did.
That's just one of those thingsI just want people.
Just look, your theo's gonnacome out with a fucking now who
has probably an oxygen tank,maybe your grandmother, and a
fucking walker, a wheelchair, Iyou look, you want to get rid of
some of the boomers mexican,latino boomers and we'll play
that song.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
That shot on go they're gonna take themselves
out for a while hell.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, they will be so fucking out of breath.
It's gonna be fucking hilariousdude?

Speaker 2 (07:28):
no, because, because then for days they're gonna be
crying and complaining thateverything hurts either that or
they'll be dying.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
My grandma died because of the charanga.
Can you imagine?
Oh see, we, we grew up in anice little time period where
music was very, it was different, it was different.
But that dance music for tahanowas very different too as well,
because me and my sister, man,we used to kill it back in the

(07:58):
day, like dancing was like oneof those things.
Like we we did cumbia, porca,chacha, salsa, um, anything, you
pretty much name it we did it.
We were so, we were so heavy indancing with the stars, like
that was like the thing that wewould watch and we would try to
imitate some of the dance movesthat they would do.
We would, we would record itand then we would put it on slow

(08:21):
speed so we can literally watchit how they, how they did it do
you remember the movie sarsa?
no, okay, there's a movie calledsarsa and it has uh, it's them
dancing, they're trying to getto a competition or whatnot, and
it's very funny.
This guy's he's starts off in amechanic shop and they all
start dancing and whatnot, andhe has celia cruz in it who does

(08:43):
an appearance for singing.
Um, it's very funny.
Not funny, but it's very like aromance type thing and it's so
cute.
I love it.
I.
I thoroughly enjoy that movieevery time I watch it, though,
but their moves in the side ofthat it's very, very good.
They try to do they go for to aballroom competition and
everything.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
But that's funny.
That kind of sounds like amovie with um cheyenne and
vanessa williams yeah, no, butthis one's called it's awesome,
it's.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
I have to find, I have to show, find a clip for
you so you can actually watch itthough.
Um, but yeah, no, I was kind oflike reminiscing about old
things because you know we'regetting older, you know we're
not that, we what you're alreadygonna excuse me.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
You're heading.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
You were saying You're heading to your 50s
already.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
How dare you Wow?
You're halfway there, halfwayto 50?
I'm past halfway to 50.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Dear Lord, You're not 50, Seth you said I'm halfway
there.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Well, lord, you're not 50.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
You said I'm halfway there.
Well, yeah, you're halfway,you're almost there Halfway to
50 is 25, bro.
Between 40 and 50.
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
I'm almost halfway there.
Dang it Dang.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Thanks for calling me out, Abel.
I'm right behind you.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Seven whole years.
Watch out now.
Watch out now.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
I'm almost there.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
You ain't even in your 40s yet.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
I'm not even 37 yet.
I'm 36 still.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
See I'll be 37 in August.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Right behind you.
I am right behind you.
Shut up, I got my cane.
I already beat you.
I already had a cane alreadythat yes so I I'll beat you in
age.
So whatever I've already, I'vealready blew up my back once got
into an accident, and not inthe good way no, oh, speaking of
which, I'm gonna just go off ina small little tangent here,

(10:45):
way off subject.
You know what?
Should we save it for FreakyFriday?
I think we should save it forFreaky Friday.
We save it for Freaky Friday.
Okay, we'll talk about it.
Freaky Friday we have Katalready coming up on the episode
already.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Oh, lovely.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, yeah, so we already have that prerecorded
already.
So you're going to have to waituntil next Freaky Friday to
hear my fuckery of whatnotthough.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
But that's going to be awesome though.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Gremlins Like, oh my God, Something to look forward
to.
Yeah, something to look for.
So next week, next Friday,freaky Friday Also too.
We didn't get to post a podcastup for Monday.
That was my fault.
I kind of slipped the ball onthat one.

(11:35):
I forgot to post one, butanyway, um, any, anybody who's
already old enough, or who'sgetting older um, I'm ready I'm
36 gonna be 37.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Uh, dd's pushing.
I don't know what she's pushing, but she's pushing.
I'm pushing along in life.
I'm 44.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I'm 44 damn you'd be 45 this year unfortunately,
you're halfway there um, uh, no,it was.
I.
I do love listening to like oldschool music and some of these
songs are probably pretty muchstill maybe in my diapers still
maybe, but I still remember someof it because I remember

(12:08):
quinceaneras, all of that stuffthat I dude.
I hate standing up inquinceaneras when I was young I
didn't want to do it, my momforced me to do it, but I will
say I did look good in a tux, so, whatever.
Um, I've always wanted to bethe.
What is it the male escort for?
The?
Uh, um, I've always wanted tobe the.
What is it the male escort forthe?

(12:28):
uh, the guinconera, which I was,and then guinconera left me
hanging at the, at the thingevery single time she was with
her partner or boyfriend yeah Iwas like, and I was the only one
sitting there just chilling andwhatnot, talking and whatnot,
and I got to talk to the wholefamily oh, where's your escort?
Where is she at?
I'm just like fuck, if I knowthis is her party I'm just here
to.
I was the filler pretty much,yeah, you know so, um, but she

(12:52):
was going missing throughout thewhole time, when we were
younger or whatnot.
So right uh, it was just soweird, like being being in the
quinceanera, and standing up inthe quinceanera was me and my
sister.
We would teach everybody how todance songs that they wanted to
dance.
Me and my sister would recordgraphic but more so my sister

(13:14):
than me, because I'm not adancer.
I can dance with somebody witha partnership, like ballroom
dancing.
Right, you try to get me to dofucking hip-hop or whatnot.
Yeah, child, I do.
I can't.
I I'm the tina that's trying tofucking.
Like oh god, it's working.
Shit, my whole body and ankleswith it.

(13:35):
Like I'm trying to suck dickand get fucked at the same time.
I'm getting pig roasted.
It's like well, is that howit's supposed to be?
Because that looks almostsimilar to what I do in the
bedroom.
That ain't twerking, that'sbacking it up.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Is he okay?

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Literally no For real .

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Is he cramping?

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Is he moving?

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I heard that is horrible, is he mooing?
I heard that is horrible.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Is it charades Cow?

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Cow Pig, buffalo Pig.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Bull.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
That is horrible.
It's so bad, dude.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Texas Longhorn.
Oh God, big Bat Mison, yeah,literally the only Big Bat Mison
that's where they got thatstatue from corpus that buffalo,

(14:54):
that was me we need you to pose, sir.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I got this.
I got this.
Hold my beer this.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Hold my beer, literally hold my beer, my God.
But the older I get, the more Irealize things in my body are
not functioning the way theyshouldn't be functioning anymore
.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Malfunction, malfunction.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
I can't even drop it like it's hot anymore.
Lukewarm at best and if I'mgonna drop it like it's hot, I
literally gotta be like in achair just to go the hydraulic,
hydraulic press, literally justthat.
Jesus fucking christ, I need awhole cane just to get up.

(15:42):
The cane's my pole now, tryingto fucking hold on to it and
grind my way down.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
I hope it's not a wooden one.
You're going to crack it.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Bitch, I have a wooden one that's going to be a
healthy one, be careful.
And I found a.
I was going through a lot of mystuff and I found like a lot of
my martial arts stuff too, andI found some of my nunchucks and
whatnot.
I'm just like, oh, I wonder ifI can still do this.
I still can, I still not if Ican do the whole thing with
double I was like okay, cool, Istill got it.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
I it hurts, but I still got it cool.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
I didn't injure myself yeah, literally I was
like don't hit your head, don'thit your head, don't hit your
head, because if I hit my wellone, they're not foam, they have
wood and they have little metalplates on them.
So if I hit my head on that,yeah no, I'm fucked.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
If you would have hit your head Because I know you
would have told me I would havelaughed.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
I probably would have told you at the hospital.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
What happened, dusty?
I was playing with my nunchucks.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
What.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Dear Lord.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
It's horrible.
It's horrible.
But yeah, there was no, therewas a bunch of other songs that
I was listening to.
I was kind of like in the moodfor Britney Spears, like in the
90s, like 99.
So we went further back.
I was listening to Sundance.
What was it called?
Is it Sundance?
What was that?

(17:10):
One techno that came out in the90s.
That was very big.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Sandstorm.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, Sandstorm.
Was that the 90s, Dang yeah itwas the 90s, it was like I don't
feel old at all.
That song is old enough todrink.
Just letting you know it's wayolder than that, because it's
the 90s.
My sister's already 35.
She was 91, dang it.

(17:38):
No, she's not 35, she's 27, 28,man, my math ain't mouthing
right today I don't bother dude,I try not to there's too many
people, too many kids, and I'mjust like no, she's about the
same race.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
yeah, so it be you don't remember when their
birthday is.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
No.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
No.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Dude, it's hard for me to remember Ryan's fucking
age half the time.
How old are you, little boy?
Because he looks 12.
34?
, 35?
Oh, he's 34 now Shit, yeah,he's 34.
Fuck.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
I have to ask him.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
I was like how old are you?
Again Like he's a kid.
How old are you?
I mean, you're getting so big.
Does he get to eat free?
I don't know, but it used to bewhen, when we were younger
together back in like 2016, 17,18, 19 up around there, we would
go eat and they were like wouldyou like a kid's menu?

(18:30):
wow, yeah wow, but it's like Idon't know.
I think when I'm older, now Iknow that I'm I'm an old soul at
heart.
I really am an old soul atheart because I already know
things.
I knew things.
I was far advanced in what Ialready knew.
Being as old as I, as young asI am, as old as I need, I've

(18:50):
always had a soul.
I've always felt like it was 65, 85 year old person because I
kind of already knew exactlywhat I wanted and needed in life
, especially in relationships,like I already knew what I
needed and whatnot.
But uh, now, in my age whereI'm at now, it's like I, I know
more, you know, and then youcontinue to get older, you know

(19:11):
even further stuff.
And I like talking to olderpeople, like people who are like
, are like 80, 90 years old, andyou always tell them it's like
any advice for somebody who'syoung, enjoy life.
When they told me, enjoy life,I fucking did.
But I didn't enjoy life likedrinking, partying, going out
all the fucking time you know,popping pills, snorting coke.

(19:33):
If you do that, no, no judgment.
Um, but I didn't do any of that.
It was just not my thing.
I never.
My clubbing days were not over.
I didn't want to go out now inthe age that I am, though, but I
want to go out for dancing,maybe go be pool, I want to go
have fun.
Um, I do miss like carnival,right, so I'm trying to fucking
lose this way, because I want toget back on like those rides

(19:55):
again, because I miss being onthose rides and you can't be a
big back on those rides becauseyour belly's in the way.
I mean shit.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
And if it ain't your belly, it's your blood pressure.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Literally fucking that.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
I mean depending on the ride.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
I loved the kamikaze I did, that was my favorite ride
mine was my only.
Thing was.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
I hated when once you went up and then they kept it
there and I'm like my head'sgonna pop.
You want to bring it down?

Speaker 1 (20:28):
come on, dude, we're gonna do this other than that
dude.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I freaking loved the just I could sit there and just
watch I love the uh poltergeist.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
One poltergeist, poltergeist.
It was at six flags.
It's one of those like okay,sit down, all right, I'm gonna
count to three, one, two, andthen it just fucking takes off
like zero to 88 and like onepoint two, it was a roller
coaster.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, it was a roller coaster, yeah but they call it
the poltergeist.
That's cool.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, because they're just like okay, cool, they'll
check your safety and everything.
And you have the one that he'salways pushing the button.
Okay, ready On the count ofthree, click yeah, just boom.
You fucking floor it, dude.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
You know I was never a fan of roller coasters Ever.
I would see them and I'm justlike, yeah, it freaks me out and
I've had so many field trips toSix Flags here and I remember
of course the Rattler was a bigdeal.
This was before they redid it.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Not the Iron Rattler.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah.
So before when they did it, itwould come over the cliff, right
, the plateau, yeah, and when itwould come down and take that
curve, it was a rat.
It was called a rattler therattler for a reason, because
the entire structure, as soon asit would pass, the whole thing
would just shake.
But like a snake, like it wouldgo like yeah, you know, like
this, and I'm like like arattlesnake's tail and I'm just

(21:46):
like, yeah, no, I'm not gettingon that, like everybody's like
yeah, and I'm just like no, noway, the very Now it's called
the Iron Rattler.
Yeah, yeah, because they endedup redoing it because it was
moving a little too much.
It was scary, I think it was toohigh, and so they brought it
down some.
The very first roller coasterthat I did get on was a complete

(22:07):
mystery, a complete accident.
How do you get on a ride andnot know that it's a roller
coaster until you've alreadytaken off?
Serious, serious, right, right,because how do you hide a
roller coaster?
You can't hide a roller coaster.
Guess what disney world doesreally disney world.

(22:28):
That's an entire roller coasterin a huge pitch black building
oh yes, that's fun.
Yes, you have no idea what it isthere's no name and you're
walking and you're waiting inline and you're just like, is
this a spaceship or something?

Speaker 1 (22:41):
you're just in a long hallway and I hate it because
you have to be in between acertain height bracket when
you're getting on these.
You can't be too tall, right,and you can't be too short.
You've got to be somewhere like5, 11, 6 foot, 6 foot, 2 and
higher, say, anything above 6foot.
You're pushing it because theirtunnels are small like they're.

(23:03):
It scares me sometimes when I'mon those fucking rides because
I feel I'm gonna hit my fuckinghead and I'm just putting my
head back, you know, andeveryone's with their hands in
the air.
I'm just like just hear myhands up by my titties and shit,
like we got T-Rex arms yeah.

(23:25):
Like just here, I'm just likefuck that dude.
I do like the log ride with thewater and everything that's
actually a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
I actually, in all honesty, I'd rather be on the
bridge than be on the log, ridewith the water and everything.
That's actually a lot of fun.
I actually do enjoy that.
In all honesty, I'd rather beon the bridge than be on the log
ride, but yes, it's still fun.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, it is still fun .

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Because I love getting the freaking blasts of
water.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
I'm just like yeah, do it again.
Do it Pushes you back just alittle bit.
You're like fuck, yeah, it'sawesome Seeing when parents do
it on fucking purpose and you'reolder and you see the kids
there and they go fucking flyingback and they cry.
I'm just laughing my ass off.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Like the force that.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
But you see, that's the thing about being older.
You used to be that kid thatyour parents would do that to
you.
And now, as you're an adult,you'd be like fuck them kids.
But we were looking at HEBearlier today because we went to
go look for certain candies andwe were looking for like the

(24:20):
easter egg ones that we used toeat back in the day.
They had a little marshmallowwith the hard candy shell on it
or whatnot, and they just don'thave them anymore.
I'm just like what those were,my favorite those were.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
We were actually looking for just original jelly
beans.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, we were looking for original jelly beans.
I mean, they had them, but theywere like jelly bellies.
And we kind of don't get jellybelly Only reason is because
they were transphobic way backwhen, so I don't know if there
still are or not.
So we, just like I said, Idon't support a whole lot of
things so but unless you buy mejelly bellies, that's sort of
the only things.
That would be my exception tothe rule.

(24:56):
So but in you my favoritebecause I don't do chick-fil-a.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
My favorite was the juicy pear.
This is my favorite jelly bellyflavor ever, like what is it we
had?

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I had the 100 dark chocolate, um yeah uh 10 out of
10.
Don't recommend.
You know, I do see thechallenges that people have,
like they get this like bitter,like I don't know if they
overreact on it or not.
But I guess it depends on, Iguess it yeah, I mean I get it,

(25:26):
because that is very just dryand bitter yeah, it's very dry
and bitter.
I can't explain the texture toit.
Would I eat it by itself?
No, I wouldn't.
Would I put it in a hotchocolate drink to make it more
dark?
Yes, yes, I would.
Yes, I would.
But I should have read thepackage.

(25:49):
I didn't realize it saidunsweet.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Well, it's going to be unsweet, because the higher
the percentage, the less amountof sugar is mixed with the cocoa
so 100% is going to beunsweetened, no matter what you
can't find sweetened 100% ohcome on, give me sweetened 100%.
No, it's 100% cocoa.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
But I do love a good dark chocolate.
A hundred percent no, Iwouldn't do it again, but there
are a few ones that I want totry.
The 95, like I said I'vealready tried.
I I want to say I thought Icould have sworn.
I tried the hundred percentonce before, but now I tried it.
No, I didn't because otherwiseI would have said no, because it

(26:29):
was very chalky.
Uh, but I I think if you'reever craving like a dark
chocolate and you want somethingthat's going to like really
kill a palate for you, or Iwould probably use this to help
get like for my to rich theblood pressure, like the blood a
bit, without having to getsomething with a lot of sugar in

(26:49):
it.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
You know what I mean, because they say dark chocolate
is good for you.
Sugar in it yeah, you know whatI mean.
Because they say darkchocolate's good for you.
I probably would do this on agood day if I really need it,
just for health reasons orwhatnot, without the sugar yeah,
you know.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
So I think the only way I'd possibly try it is when
I have a migraine.
I would try it to see how wella hundred percent does at taking
away, because supposedly darkchocolate is something that you
can eat to help relieve amigraine.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Well, you can try it, I'll knock you out.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I'm not going to give you a migraine, but the dark
chocolate that I've ever triedduring a migraine is just the
regular commercial darkchocolate, like Hershey's or
something like that.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
I love Peeps.
There's a few things forholidays I like.
So Valentine's Day is the partabout chocolates, like if you
get the ones at the dollar treeor the ones at hb for like a
dollar, I love those.
Those are so fucking.
I like the sort of variety,whatnot.
But I also like the bigger boxtoo.
Yeah, hubby gets me that forall the fucking time for
valentine's day and I'm justlike okay, easter for me are the

(27:52):
peeps.
I love peeps.
Peeps are fucking delicious.
I know you don't likemarshmallow.
I don't like marshmallow.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
You don't like marshmallows no, I'll only eat
marshmallow in rice crispytreats and in s'mores they have
to be really toasted.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
That's actually fair.
That's actually fair.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
That's other than I like.
I just I don't like justpopping more.
I'll have some in my hot cocoabecause it melts into like a
cream almost, almost like acream, but I can't just eat
marshmallow yeah, or fluff, orwhatever it's not my thing.
I'll taste peeps, though,because there are certain
flavors that I'm like yeah, see,this I could do, because it you
can't taste the marshmallow,like the fruit punch ones, I

(28:26):
like the fruit punch peepsbecause, you can't taste the
marshmallow.
I don't like I'm.
I like the flavor marshmallow,I guess see black licorice for
me.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
I do like I'm a big fan of black.
I can't have it all the fuckingtime I have to be really in the
mood for black licorice.
But I do love black licorice.
So I kind of figured, since Ido like black licorice, I would
like the 100%.
But and again I digress it'snot as sweet as black licorice.
So it's whatever.

(28:56):
Uh, for halloween it's candycorn, the fall candy corn like
the pumpkin, all that stuff Idon't know, I just what I like I
love candy corn.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, I just love a good, all the things that people
don't like about halloweencandies I like candy corn.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
I can't help it I don't know, it's just something
that I actually do, like.
I just I like bittersweet stuff.
I guess I don't know.
I better be careful what I say,because somebody's going to
make me a bittersweet somethingthat I'm not going to like at
all, period.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
I'm just like hmm, I mean the cool thing is, you'll
try it.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
I will still try it.
Yeah, but I do, I kind of likethat.
You'll like it see that mypalate tends to change for
certain types of uh, food or orcandy, or something I may not
have liked, but I can try itagain.
I'm just like okay, um, whatwas it that I didn't like?
I'm just like I don't thinkI'll try that again.

(29:46):
I don't remember what was itwas a candy I don't know if it
was a candy or a particular typeof food oh I don't remember
what it was, but I just remember.
I'm just like that's good, butit's a no for me, like
interesting yeah, like I likenobody likes sardines.
I love sardines and I I justcould buy them in the heb can

(30:06):
and just eat them, just likethat, because they're really
good, no, thank you, no thankyou.
No one else likes can ofsardines am I the only one my
grandmother used to.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
She would open them up.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
She'd put them on the cracker yeah, put that shit on
the fucking cracker.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
I'm like no man, no man oysters.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Oh, I haven't had oysters in forever and I put
that stuff on there with alittle bit of the oyster sauce
and just put it on there withthe cracker and just oh, it's
making my mouth water right nowjust thinking about it.
I think I'm going to go buysome oysters, those are sea
boogers, sir?

Speaker 2 (30:37):
No, I don't care if they are sea boogers or not,
they're really good.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
I just I enjoy them.
They're sea loogies.
Me and my mom they weren't asexpensive as they were back in
the day.
You know what I mean, but whenfor like a jar full.
But I remember when I used towork in rockport back in the day
, I remember I had bags.
They would bring me fuckingchunk and they were like ten

(31:02):
dollars a bag and I'm just likeI'll take four.
And let me tell you, me and meand mary jane, my, we all,
fucking man, we went ham onthose, but they were frozen
still.
So I had to go buy an ice chestand keep them cool, because I
didn't get off until work untillater.
So how do you keep somethingcool like that?

(31:25):
I had to ice them.
But it looks like they keptthem frozen inside there for
whatnot, and they sold them likethat.
So I put them in ice, took themback back home, put them in the
fridge in a bowl so whateverwater was there can just drip
through, and then we would pullthem out and, man, we fucking
killed it.
We fuck.
Rockport is like the best knownplace for fucking oysters,

(31:45):
especially around oyster festtime.
Dude, they fucking pop theshells off like I don't.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
I've tasted fried oysters before.
Um, I think only one time.
I liked it one time, one way,that's it that's it.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah, but it's because it doesn't.
It doesn't have that gooeytexture, it's cooked yeah, so
it's firm, you know like, but itstill has a little squish
squeak like um occasionally Iguess not.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
The maybe that's why I like them is because they
didn't have any squish.
They were like I said, theywere firm enough.
I know that sounds, I rememberwe went to.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
No, no, that's funny because I remember the oysters,
because I do like fried oysters.
They're really fucking good.
It was my birthday.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
We were in south friday oh no, I'm sorry, it was
fried clams flying crams flight,crams you said cramps, so I
said crams.
You said clams, so I said clams, I said clams.
I think it was flying clamsthat I tried.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Okay, that's different.
Yeah, clams are different.
Ab has never tried an oysterbefore at all, period, and I
remember it was me and who wasit?
I think it was Joseph.
At the time we all went and wehad and joseph, we killed
fucking um some oysters.
Well, he had it on there and hetold ab to try it.

(32:58):
We had the sauce and everything, because I've never had oysters
before.
And he goes it just looks gross.
I'm like you only get to liveonce.
You get to try it one time.
If you don't like it, you know,but you can't spit it out.
I was like you cannot spit itout, you have to swallow it
because, fuck, he's like, okay,cool, all they know is ab just

(33:19):
edit and that pop, but you getthat that squirt in your mouth
and the oysters.
Soon as he felt, they said hegoes, no, he can't swallow it.
I was like swallow it.
I don't know if he swallowed orif he actually just spit it out
, but I think he did spit it outon a napkin or whatnot.
He goes.

(33:39):
That is gross, that's like.
That's like you know, like likeswallowing a noogie or
something.
I'm like it's not close intexture, because if you actually
swallowed a noogie with a mocoin it.
It's a little bit differentthan an oyster.
An oyster just has more of afishy taste to it.
So but it still has the seaflavor because in the middle the

(34:00):
words that squishy is it hasthe sea water still.
That's still in it.
But he tried it and it was likethe fucking best thing ever,
because it kind of shows thatpeople's palates are a little
bit different you know, but I, Ido love a fucking good oyster.
So interesting yeah, I likescallops, scallops, scallops are
fucking good, but they'rereally expensive because

(34:22):
unfortunately I because I sawhbs is like oh dude.
I could fucking make a goodscallop fucking meal right now.
I think it was like 23 a pound,I'm like, for a one-time meal
then now I'm okay, I'm good likechala dude but I do find my but

(34:47):
.
the older we are, now we seethat history tends to kind of
repeat itself throughout timeand we're seeing it on on the
news take talk and everything.
You're just like I could havesworn we'd learned this back in
the day, like I think this wassomething that we kind of like
it was which is crazy, becauseif we see what we've already

(35:10):
experienced when we were younger, what are the older generations
?

Speaker 2 (35:17):
How did they feel about it?
How many times have they gonethrough this?
Yeah, exactly like.
How are they?

Speaker 1 (35:21):
seeing this again.
But it's so funny to see,because even those who went to
school with us and still believesomething else that they've
learned back in that same timeperiod, they're just like oh
well, if you want to go, do that.
And you know, I'm just like bro, we did take the same class,
right?
We?
We did learn from the samehistory books.
We've learned from the samething.

(35:41):
How are you this stupid?
It doesn't make any sense, likeit.
Well, I'm trying to figure itout, but everyone is.
It is what it is for a lot ofpeople right.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
So I don't know, everybody's gonna take it
differently and life along theway is gonna shape, and I guess
the older you are, the more youremember things differently.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Like you and I can remember the same thing back in
the seven age age differencebetween the both of us, but we
know the same history that we'veknown.
Right, we, we can relate tothat, but someone else is going
to be like learning something,like they were taught something
completely different.
I'm like wait what?

(36:19):
We?
We took the same what, like runthat by me again.
So it's kind of hard to see the.
The amount of stupidity youhave amounts for a lot of people
and I'm just like this is, um,very, very interesting to see,
even a young generation, though.
But this is some like this isthings that people are trying to

(36:41):
block out so we wouldn't haveto remember.
And when we get older and werealize we're just like, oh shit
, like the whole thing was likechristopher columbus, like when
you were young you were taughtone thing like he discovered
america first, he was the firstperson, this and that.
Then you come to find out thereare already people here to

(37:03):
begin with, and they werenatives to this land.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
I'm just like even the battle of the alamo find out
where the natives are here andnow and it's just like yo wait.
What, how?
Why was none of that mentioned?

Speaker 1 (37:18):
none of it like and it's even now because some of
the native people here not allof them, some when we rephrase
that some native people havesold out to cater to the white
person, the colonizer, to beable to say, hey, let's do this.
And a lot of people are justlike, um, no, like there are

(37:40):
lands out there that belong toNative people that are sacred
grounds for them, but the landis no longer sacred for anybody,
even when it comes to like, oh,remember the Battle of the
Alamo and what we were fightingfor?
Yeah, that was a lie too.
Because when you get older, too, it's just like, bro, like,

(38:04):
don't get me wrong, I love thealamo, I love texas, history.
You know why texas was built theway it was built.
When they say, people are likeoh, my family had this for
generations, yeah, that doesn'tcount comparisons to a native
who's had it for a long, longtime before that.

(38:27):
So, yeah, that's, that's notsaying much at all period
whatsoever.
Because people who had landalready to build Texas, the land
itself was stolen from nativecultures, and Mexican culture
too as well, because a lot of it, that's how Texas was built on.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
I'm just saying yeah, because it was part of Mexico.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
I'm just like whoa.
Among other states, of course,of course, but I mean that's
kind I'm just like whoa Amongother states, of course, of
course, but I mean that's kindof like the beauty of getting
older, no-transcript, alifestyle that you want to
choose.
You can choose the.
You can choose the ignoranceand bliss side, where you
believe everything that peopleare telling you and what media

(39:12):
has given you, and the otherside is you can open your own
eyes and see what the world isreally coming about and what
it's all about.
Everybody has a different view.
Of course everyone does ofcourse like when I see uh, when
I'm on tiktok, when I'mscrolling through, I do see a
lot of the different politicsand even some really dumb

(39:36):
motherfuckers.
I'm just like what, um, youknow it's bad when uh shapiro
has to come out and say whatthey're doing with the whole
tariff because no one understoodit, because no one was taught
about terror.
I mean, let's rephrase that wewere taught about tariffs when

(39:58):
we were younger, when you and Iwere going to school, and so
were the adults.
But those adults, the boomersor the young boomers, dropped
out because they're like oh well, I dropped out of fifth grade
and I'm doing well, yeah, butyou're still dumb as fuck.
Like holy shit, you can be verygood at what you do because it's
a talent that you possessed,but you didn't bother to gain

(40:22):
the knowledge.
Oh, because it was a slowlearner.
Yeah, it shows, it fuckingshows that you're a really
fucking slow learner.
Like God damn, I mean not to bemean, but no, yeah to be mean,
but you know it's.
I don't know.
I'm not trying to get politicalin it at all, whatsoever, but

(40:46):
it's literally what it has to dowith the podcast.
We're getting older.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
We see things differently than other people
for some fucking strange reasonno, that's not strange, that's
everybody not everybody is goingto think the same way because
not everybody has lived theirlife the same way and, in all
honesty, even if we got taughtin the same exact classroom by
the same exact teacher, the sameexact textbook, our brains are

(41:10):
going to remember.
Whatever our brains are goingto remember, uh-huh, and my
brain is not your brain, yeah,so this is why I think education
should genuinely 100% should befree, and everyone should.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
There should be a regulation for a lot of students
.
You're not allowed to drop outperiod until you finish school,
like you have to finish highschool.
It doesn't matter how fuckingold you are, you need to finish
it.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
I mean.
I would love to see that, butif it's optional it becomes
survival of the fittest.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
It is, it is, it is.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
If it's an optional as opposed to mandatory survival
of the fittest, because thosethat want to chase the knowledge
and gain it to betterthemselves in their lives,
naturally they're going to learnhow to and they will.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yeah, those who don't will not I do miss home
economics because they wouldteach that a lot for people how
to balance your checkbook, howto to do this, how to do that
and I do kind of miss those,those classes and those courses
that used to teach it, butthey're just not as adults.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
As adults, we're going to say that we missed it.
We're going to say that wemissed it.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
We've done this a lot of things.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Well, yeah, but I'm saying, only adults will say
that.
Only as adults Will you saythat.
Because, Only as adults willyou say that, because when
you're in high school and that'syour choice is it going to be
your first choice?
No, no.
More than likely no.
What is the percentage ofpeople that are going to be like
yes, home economics, nothingelse, Like I don't even care
about the other electives,they're not going to.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
I don't think that it should be mandatory for anybody
to, of course, because now, asadults, we're like adults were
like bro, if they would havejust openly given that kind of
course.
Yes, I just wish they would getrid of the standardizing tests
across the fucking board.
I hate those standardizingtests period.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah, it's, it's ridiculous, because there's a
lot of people that do notfunction that way no they can.
They can retain a hundredpercent of what they've learned
the entire year.
But once that test comes around, guess what it screws up their
nervous system.
And all of that is out thewindow just in that moment.
Yep, when they're done thefollowing day, guess what?
They can answer all thosequestions.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
But when it came down to it, no, they couldn't but
they shouldn't, but math, mathis not mathy for some reason,
because it's like when I wentback, when I went back and I did
the math, okay, I understoodthe certain key phrases that it
gives you for the math whenthey're writing out certain
things, like certain words willhave certain things for

(43:39):
subtraction, some words willhave certain things for
multiplication, addition, um,division and whatnot.
So it has there are key phrasesto look for, but I'm just like
when am I going to need thesekey phrases Ever?
Because in the long run, youjust need simple math.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
It depends.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
It depends on the degree, but you should only that
degree.
It depends on your career butyou should only that degree,
career, that decree or that.
You don't need math to becomplicated with wordings,
instructions of sentence to beable to figure out certain
things.
You just need to be able toplug in certain things or points
or points that belong for thedegree that you're in.

(44:23):
No one knows if you havefucking 30 apples and suzy q
took two and the other one'slike I have five over here
because he stole six, like Idon't know, I don't need that
shit.
What I need to know is what Ineed to know for this.
Tell me that type of math thatI need.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
True, but that's to build the equation.
That's all the wording is thereto build an equation.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
I don't want to fucking build the equation.
I just want to fucking buildthe equation.
I just want to fucking get intomy degree.
Tell me what I need to know.
For that you need to learn, no,how to work equations, yes,
equations, but they don't needto be in a fucking form where
it's like, okay, well, ifteachers has fucking 10 dicks
and mrs q is wanting anotherfive dicks here, true, but you
can't just introduce equationsfrom the get-go yeah, you can I

(45:07):
can, you can.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
It's fucking easy.
And then learn all of that,yeah, once you start going to
harder equations.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
But the equation in itself to per se that let's do
the math on it, it's literallyjust plugging in fucking numbers
Like there's not really a Mathis literally kind of like a
thing the language math is alanguage, though, but in reality
we really don't need a wholelot of math to figure out a lot

(45:39):
of the stuff like actually we doin a sense actually we do dude
I make handmade.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
I make handmade cosmetics.
Okay, that's not that big.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Yeah, that's not that big of a deal?
It's not that big of a deal,but it's weighing certain
chemicals and being able to doit If you don't do it right
you're not.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
I have to go by percentages and fractions and
weights.
No, I get it that takes legitequations and I'm like why?
I just want to make this stuffbecause it's fun.
Oh no, you need math.
And I'm like shit, shit.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
No, I get it.
No, I really do get it.
I understand.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
So technically I do.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
I get the logistics, because even baking you need to
know math.
You got to know how, the gramsand whatnot, Because if you
don't do it you're going to geta fucking either flat cake or
very dry bread or you're goingto get a brick.
One of those things are goingto happen first.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Or goo or goo right.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
So, yes, you do need math in certain points and
aspects of life In reality.
Do I think you needed to beable to build things?
I don't think so.
In a sense, for some reason,something tells me you really
don't need a whole lot of.
If we needed a whole lot ofmath the people who are fucking
making spaceships from fuckingother terrestrial lives.

(46:53):
You're going to tell me how inthe fuck they're going to make
something.
We can't figure that shit out.
How is somebody more advancedthan we are making technology
higher than we are?
Is it really calculated off ofmath when they're just traveling
?
Yes, it is.
If UFOs, because I would loveto fucking alien and tell me
yeah, math.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
You need math to be able to structure angles in
buildings to make them safe whenyou're building weight-bearing
walls or weight-bearing frames.
Yes, because if not, that'sjust going to crumble and kill.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
You need math, yes, you need math, but you don't
need it to-.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
You need math to calculate how much weight, how
many floors can this building bebuilt before it becomes-.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Yeah, but I'm not getting a math problem that I
have to fucking read and figureout.
I'm there to figure out theproblem and the problem is okay.
We need to figure out what thisis going to be, the
constitution of it.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
It's not on paper.
Learned that because, since youwere a little kid, those
structured ones helped you togrow into the big ass equations
where you're like now I gotta doconversions?
yep, yep, and I'm like why?
Because way back when you wereyounger, you had to read to
build the equation.
Because you can't just build anequation.
You can build a two plus two,but you can't build the
equations that have a whole oneon top and then underneath the

(48:16):
line and a whole sentence worthlike that.
Yeah, no, no, I could never.
I could never.
I bet you about the conversionsthat I need to do, as is.
That's probably that's probablyalgebra, maybe a little
calculus at best no, I don'tknow.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
I just don't know if math is the math is a real thing
.
Don't get me wrong.
It is a real thing.
That's a, that's a given towhere it is, because people,
when they measure certain things, they have certain weights
especially like chemicals yeah,especially when it comes to
chemicals, that's fine we coulddie.
I just don't know if the themathematical term in itself and

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how they presented, if certainkey words or multiplication, if
we already know certain thingshave to be multiply, especially
when you're building a bigstructure in itself and how it's
supposed to stand and holditself, just by certain weight
bearings.
You don't need a whole lot ofcomplications in math itself.

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You just need to figure out howthe wind structure is going to
hold where it's going to begoing, and all of that.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Yeah, and how do you do that?
A mathematical equation.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Yeah, but it's not-.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Because it's the velocity of the speed that you
need to take into considerationwhen you're talking about the
height and the weight building.
Yes, I know the velocity.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
I know all of that, but I don't think in the math
portion to take a test.
I don't think they need to putthis on it.
Give me the fucking velocity tothe point where I need to be
able to do this.
I don't want to fucking readthe whole damn thing, just give

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it to the point, to where itneeds to be, and that's where I
want it.
You just want the sentence,just so that you can figure out
the answer exactly, don't?

Speaker 2 (49:58):
give me everything.
You don't want the thebreakdown of the numbers.
You just want to see thenumbers so that you can figure
it out yes, just give me thefucking number so I can see it.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
I don't need to know that Jan had 10 apples and Susie
took two of them to be able tofigure out this.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
And what if, on this, 10 minus 2 equals what?

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Whatever that is, give me that.
If you give me that, then I cananswer it just fine.
I don't need the whole fuckingstructure and why they need to
put it as a sentence or as astructure.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Okay, now I get it.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Give me what I need.
That's what I need.
That is it?
Yeah, simple as that.
Write it out, let me figure itout, and I'm good from there.
Yeah, do I need to read it andunderstand certain keywords and
phrases to be able to know whereX goes or where Y or whatever
the fucking alphabet is?
Look, it's already bad enough.
We got the alphabet mafiaalready.
Okay, I'm trying to figure outwhich dick to suck there.

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So I'm just trying to make surethat I know the equation.
I get the velocity, I get that,I get the weights.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Yeah, just give me the fucking problem so I can
solve it, but you know what it's, because your job is to just
solve the equation.
That's it, that's it, that's it, that's it.
However, however, when it comesto people who are, let's say,
building a subway track, theyneed to learn how to create the
equation that they're going toneed.

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So how do?

Speaker 1 (51:19):
you do that, give me the fucking table that's be able
to create that, so I can know.
Does it really have to be incertain words, yes, there are
periodic tables and there aretables that give you what you
need to, but yes, yeah but theyhave it there for you.
It's all there on piece ofpaper.
Just give me that my boss is notgonna fucking tell me the whole
thing, what I need.
He's gonna tell me this isgonna be the velocity part.

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What do we need to figure thispart from up and down or
whatever the fucking?
Thing, is, and then we need tobe able to make this type of
room what.
What can we do from there?

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Boom.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
You just did it, but it's not written down.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
He's telling me physically Right, so the spoken
part is for the people who havethe careers that create the
equations.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Speak it to me, don't fucking make me read it.
Speak it to me, because my bossis not going to tell me to read
this, but this is just for you,because a scientist needs to
create it.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
So they need this.
They need the written one.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
I don't think you need a written one, just give me
the fucking answer what I need.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Because, guess what?
They're the ones that need towrite it in order for it to be
solved.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Yes, write it down though.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
But I don't think we need to figure out who has
fucking 10 apples where?
That's elementary shit though.
Yes, that's elementary shit,though but I get it.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
It's on a grander scale.
I know it's on a grander scale,I'm not stupid.
It's for a purpose, it is justnot your particular purpose is
it for my purpose?
no, I don't think a scientist isgoing to go and tell me okay,
we need to figure this out, thisis what we have as a velocity

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on this and this and this andthis.
I can understand what he'stelling me, but if you're going
to write it down on a paper,that has to give me the whole
fucking picture, where I got toread the whole fucking thing.
Yes, no, give me what I need toknow, tell me what I need to
write and I can figure it outfrom there.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
That portion of math is not for you.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
It's not for you, but it is for that whole other
class of people who are going toAll right.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Well, kudos to them, but I don't think you need it.
They're going to be engineers.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
That whole class is going to be engineers.
So when the professor comes in,it's like guess what?
I need you to figure this out.
And it's like you have to putthe equation.
If you're the engineer, you'reputting the equation together.
That's your job.
I can't teach you.

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I'm gonna give you what youneed to put together deuces.
And it's like they have tocreate the written equation for
the people who are going tobuild, so it's just not your
thing.
That's all and that was not mine, nope but it is necessary I
don't, I honestly now is itnecessary?
On tests I don't, I don't agreeI don't think so, I don't agree

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I don't agree to that I don'tknow, I just don't think it's
necessary.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Certain careers, I think in life, yes, but I think
at the same time, if we're goingto school to be able to learn
this stuff and you have to go inand you're going onto the
fields, okay fine, let me learnon the field what they're
teaching, so I can kind of getmore of a grasp of the knowledge
because when I'm here.
Yeah, when you're drilling here,it's not going to be the exact
same thing over here, because,as an adult, I'm thinking of it,

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I'm just like that's whythere's a variety, because there
are some people who do?

Speaker 2 (54:25):
learn written.
There's some people who dolearn hands-on.
There's some people who do bothI'm just like no yeah I just
don't, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
I just math is.
I think it's the same thing forlike, just the same thing as
like for english.
I I get there's a whole lot ofgrammars and punctuations run on
sentence and everything, andthose are for the writers.
I get it and people and it sucksbecause you want to nitpick on
how things are said or howthey're done.

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You know what I mean.
So it's just like I get thewhole texting portion and people
are just like, oh well, this,and I'm just like dude, I'm just
fucking texting just a textlike this, or does it really
matter what I put on there?

Speaker 2 (55:08):
but it does for you, I guess I don't know yeah,
because they're wrong when itcomes to that it's whatever I
can I can rant about that wholefucking thing I don't know if
there was a structural to beable to.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Oh, you know what?
We need to put commas, we needto be able to breathe, we need
to put a period.
We need to figure out this.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
We need to figure out that I mean, have you seen
sentences without commas?
And then you read and you'relike I'm sorry, what?
And then you're like oh okay,you meant this, this and this.
You didn't mean this, this.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Like okay, cool, cool my mind just works differently.
You can give me a whole fuckingthing with, with, run on sins,
with nothing, and I willunderstand it completely.
I'm just like huh, I don't know, maybe that's just how my
fucking brains works.
I don't know, maybe I just seethings differently.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
I don't know, maybe I'm just getting older and
bitter.
Maybe you're an alien.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
You know what I hope?
I'm a fucking alien man.
Get me off of this fuckingplanet.
I did not become a test subjectjust to be on here.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
And I do want to mention, if you pay attention,
majority of the school system isnot necessarily for learning.
It is one big ass test of howwell you can retain information.
It's a memory test.
That's it.
It's a memory test Like herelook at this, learn this.
Here.
Look at this, learn this.
Do you remember?
Do you remember?

Speaker 1 (56:31):
No, I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Exactly that's why there's so much failure.
When it comes to just the tests, these kids can excel the
entire year, but once the stupidstandardized tests come around,
fail.
So guess what?
You don't get to graduate tothe next grade.
And it's like yo, they madestraight A's throughout the
entire year.
So they fail one test and theycan't advance.

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I'm sorry what?

Speaker 1 (56:56):
But that's the thing.
It shouldn't have to be.
That way, exactly.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Because it's just memory.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Yeah, that's it, do you remember?

Speaker 2 (57:04):
what we told you?
Oh, I don't remember.
Well then, you fail what?
But I know this stuff.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Yeah, but you don't remember.
That's the thing I'm trying toget at.
It's like you don't.
You can excel at a lot of thethings on it, but when you get a
standardized test that tellsyou that this is what the
equation is and you have tofigure out what each thing is.
This is why I like college somuch fucking better when it
comes to learning, because wedon't have a standardized test

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like everything you're trying,oh, like, oh, we're preparing
you for college.
I'm sorry there ain't nofucking standardized tests in
college, like there is nothing.
You just learn what the teacherhas taught you from here to
here.
You need to know it, which Ilove, my professors, I wish it
never stopped it, but I had to.
Um, I just I love the aspect ofit when we came down to the

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math portion.
Yeah, it was like, oh, we sayit was this and this and this
and this.
Then you know we're kind oflike missing.
I'm just like, yeah, no, bro,can you just fucking write the
whole thing down?
Like I can get that and I knowit and I can understand it, but
you start putting fuckingletters and a whole sentence and

(58:15):
I got to fucking break thatdown.
Not only that, I got to breakthat down.
I got to fucking write an essayon top of that, like, excuse me
.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
That's why, when you're like we're going to take
these classes together, the hellwe are.
I'm sorry you said math?
Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
I will say that I will do something a little bit
differently for this.
If I was to go back, I wouldprobably put math first and
English last, because havingmath last and English first
really fucked me up.
So I got to figure out myclasses, like which one I would
do first, but math would befirst, because then I would have

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a whole day at least that halfday that I had right to be able
to focus on the math and havingto not wait right with english I
can literally just write thepaper and it's great, and it's
done yeah math.
On the other hand, I'm just like, oh shit, it's not that I
didn't like it, I did like it,it was awesome, it was fun, but,
and again, it's just not my cupof tea, I guess yeah, it makes

(59:19):
sense but I just uh, I don'tknow anybody else, it's just me
and my stupid hashtag.
Stupid jesse, I don't know um,you're just a dumb bitch, um how
do you, gremlins, feel aboutgetting old?
yeah, how do you feel abouteverything?
Like am I the only delulu onehere, because um you're the only
grumpy old man.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
I'd rather be a fucking grumpy old man giving
back my pudding bitch.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
um, I need to stop saying, um, it's just, uh, it's
just one of those things I justcan.
I just can't fathom how mathworks.
I truly do think in my own headyou don't need math.
That's just my opinion, becausebefore, back in those days,

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there wasn't math to bake, therewas just literally.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Trial and error.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Just that's all it was.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Until they started to learn like oh, if I put the
same measurements, cool math,you need it because then how do
you pass it on?
How do you pass it on?

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
I'm sure there was something then that passed it on
to people, because a lot ofpeople, when they make certain
things, in the culture of makingcertain foods or products or
bread, there wasn't nomeasurements, there was just
people making.
I mean, if there was math andmath was the thing of it, you

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look at, like, certain culturesback in the day before they
created and how it would workand how it would work, it was
repetitive for a lot of peopleto continue to make the same
thing over and over againwithout any type of measurement.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Because that was just memory muscle.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
That's why yeah, and they taught that memory muscle
to them to be able to feel.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
But it's a muscle, so you need to teach the person
the math.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
It wasn't just a muscle, it was a learning
structure for different people.
Like I don't know.
I honestly don't know how itworked back then, before math
was even created.
Because when I'm thinking aboutit and I look at it and they're
saying, oh, we used to just beable to gather things, create it

(01:01:38):
and we knew how much it is.
We felt temperatures the way itwas.
We didn't have thermometers, wedidn't have ovens.
But they learned, they learned,they learned and they adapt
right, but it wasn't somethingthey would weigh or whatnot,
they would just feel like, okay,that we would at first at first
, but eventually they would,even if whatnot, they would just
feel like okay, that we wouldat first, at first.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
But eventually they would, even if they didn't have
mathematical tools, because ifthey, let's say, they made a
bread using the corn that theyharvested, they'd be like we're
just gonna go with their boss asbitches.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
They didn't need fucking math, they fucking did
it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Simple as that it takes four ears of corn to make
this much of this bread.
Now we know, for math alreadyautomatically did a picture of
number four.
Of course not, they just knew,for these things makes this much
okay, cool, I don't fuckingknow, didi, look, there was no.
I want to go back to that timeperiod is ancient, but the

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numbers are not well.
Who?

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
in the fuck invented numbers anyways and begin.
Who said make it easier tounderstand same person that
meant invented letters hopefullythey're rotten in hell, because
fuck them, I want everyonewho's invented something.
They're rotten, hell yeah you,do you are becoming that bitter
old man no, I'm not a bitter oldman, I'm just like something's

(01:02:57):
not adding right.
I don't know what it is, butit's something your math?

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
no, it's not no everybody else's math in the
world is totally fine.
It's not math and I just don'twant to math no, I don't want to
math.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Leave math out of this, do I?

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
have to?
Yes, do I want to?

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
no, I think it's just bad at it I just don't like it.
It's a lot of work I've saidwhat I said I'll die on that
fucking hill.
I will fucking die on that hill.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
That is one hill I will die.
I need to get you that littleuh tombstone that you showed me
earlier.
That's like I'll put it on yourhill yeah, put it on my fucking
hill.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
I would say did not believe in math, but still took
it, still took it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
I'm just saying look, whatever, I'm over it did not
believe in math, but he's buriedsix feet down six and I'm gonna
have a middle finger on myfucking thing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Fuck that, you know what?

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
put that as a qr code and every time you scan I'm
gonna say fuck math I'm gonnaput the qr code and when they
scan it's gonna be like thelongest math equation ever oh
god, at this point don't evenfucking bear me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Just throw me in the water, just burn my ass.
Just burn.
You know what?
Me?
Who cares?

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
I'll need math to know what temperature.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Throw me in the fucking lava frolic here, jesus,
just burn me until I'm done.
I don't care how many fuckinglogs it takes you, just throw a
little fucking tree in there.
I'm over it.
This is the Mature MischiefPodcast.
I'm your host, jesse James.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
And I'm your co-host.
Didi, Fuck off.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Love ya, bye, ciao.