Polyamory 101: Navigating Multiple Relationships with Honesty and Heart

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Curious about polyamory but don't know where to start? This eye-opening episode breaks down the realities of loving multiple people simultaneously with consent, respect, and clear boundaries. 

Daddy J and Delicious D demystify the often misunderstood world of polyamorous relationships, throuples, and open partnerships. They explain the crucial concept of relationship hierarchies—how primary partners (often spouses) and secondary partners (boyfriends/girlfriends) create a structured framework that allows love to flourish in multiple directions without chaos.

"Communication is motherfucking key," emerges as the episode's central theme. The hosts explore how honest conversations about expectations, boundaries, and needs create the foundation for healthy non-monogamous relationships. They share personal experiences that highlight both the joys and challenges of poly dynamics, including how to balance time between partners, navigate financial independence, and ensure everyone feels valued.

The conversation draws fascinating parallels between friendship dynamics and polyamory—just as we don't get jealous when our friends have other friends, poly relationships recognize that different partners can fulfill different emotional and physical needs. The hosts also tackle common misconceptions, addressing the "I'm too possessive" response many have when first learning about polyamory.

Whether you're actively polyamorous, considering opening your relationship, or simply curious about relationship structures beyond traditional monogamy, this episode offers valuable insights about love, respect, and the beautiful complexity of human connections. Subscribe now and join our continuing exploration of mature, mindful approaches to modern relationships.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
what's up, gremlins?
Welcome back to another podcast.
My name is daddy j.
I hope everyone is doing it anddoing it well.
You know the drill.
This is the mature mischiefpodcast, oh shit what's up?

(00:20):
I just remember something you'llremember.
You'll know in a little bitwhen I say it again, oh boy, my
mind is all over the place.
Okay, and I'm just nowrealizing that I didn't get to
say this one part of the podcastthat I normally always say I
know it, you know it, the wholeworld fucking knows it.
That's right.
My name is Daddy J.
I am your host.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
You're right, and I am your co-host.
Nice, all right, and I am yourco-host.
Delicious d, delicious d whatit do.
Yeah, I didn't even do thatpart.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
I didn't do that like it's like I'm your host.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Dd, dd well, you can't, because it's delicious d
today I know it's delicious d.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
What's up?
D sister deeds in the hillshouse.
She's going to be your freakysister.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
That does not sound good at all.
Oh my God, that's so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
That did sound horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yes, that sounds very horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
She'll role play with you.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I will not be role playing with nobody.
Look, sir, you said some shiton the last one.
Now you're saying some shit onthis one.
What did I say on the last one?

Speaker 1 (01:24):
now you're saying some shit on this one.
What did I say on the last one?

Speaker 2 (01:26):
I don't remember um, I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I remember you used to listen to the podcast all the
time after we recorded it,while you stopped listening you
said dang it.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
What are you saying?

Speaker 1 (01:41):
that's gonna bug me see that's what happens when you
don't listen.
You don't even listen to ourown podcast.
The fuck, I don't even listento our own podcast I listen to
it occasionally.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I was gonna say why would I listen to it if we
recorded it?

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I know what we said because I listen to it just to
see how it sounds back you knowwhat I mean, and I think it's
just so funny.
People are like you'relistening to your own podcast,
so I can critique it.
Yeah, I critique my own podcast.
It's funny, uh, although I saytoday is freaky friday, of
course you know.
That's why I said I'm your host, daddy jay, and, um, I don't

(02:16):
know what we're going to talkabout yes I do know what we're
going to talk about.
We're going to talk aboutbecause we do have a we're I'm
setting up somebody on,hopefully, hopefully, we do have
our very first sponsor, so Ijust need to send the
information out or the email,which I have not done yet, which

(02:36):
I need to already, and if we doand everything goes through the
way we're supposed to, we mayneed to record all of this again
with our sponsors.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Wonderful.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Maybe we don't know yet.
Just wonderful, I just need toget things settled in first and
kind of go from there and seewhat happens.
So yes, we should have ourfirst sponsor here soon.
So I just got to send out theemail, which I should have
already sent it out already byat least wednesday, hopefully

(03:09):
wonderful.
Yes, yes, yes I'm super excited, I'm really excited.
Let's talk about, uh, polyrelationships.
I know we've talked about itbefore in the past, but I kind
of want to bring it up nowbecause I know that it is a
topic that people are still nottoo sure about still, that's
fair all right, so we can talkabout monogamy, we can talk

(03:30):
about throuples, we can talkabout everything, and I think
it's one of those things that isvery, very helpful to a lot of
people when it comes tounderstanding, uh, what it is or
what it's like to be in a, uh,throuple slash, poly
relationship and what it's likehere.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Right, I think we we've touched bases before, yeah
, so I agree, because sometimeswhen I'm talking to people that
I know and I'm describing likeus hanging out or whatever, well
, I'll say you know, oh, my bestfriend's husband, you know this
and that, and it's like oh,yeah.
And then his boyfriend, they'rejust like wait, is it his
husband?
I was, I was like oh, I'm sorry, one of each.
And they're like well, wait,what?
And I'm like yeah, no, I'msorry, he's in, like I have yes

(04:21):
and yes, yes to both.
and they're like, oh yeah, andI'm like yeah, why you say it
like that?
I think it's funny they don't,they're like it's not nothing
negative the reaction.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
They're just like really, you know, it was like
yes, that's weird, like no,that's just interesting, like oh
, okay, cool yeah it's funnybecause I'm just like, yeah, I
love people's reactions too,especially when I talk to them
and then just like, yeah, I havemy uh husband, uh, then I have
my boyfriend.
Then I got my other boyfriendand like, wait, wait, wait, wait

(04:59):
, wait, wait back up.
What do you mean?
I'm in a poly relationship.
Like, what part did you know toget?

Speaker 2 (05:05):
I have a boyfriend, I have a husband, because if you
don't say that you're poly, theythink you're just incredibly
open about being married andcheating all at the same time,
yeah, it's like what.
But then when you're like, ohno, they all know.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
And they're like, oh, it's poly, like oh okay, you
know, it's one of thosequestions I always get after I
tell them that I'm in a poly.
Oh, I can never do it, I'm toopossessive.
That's great.
No one asked you, but Iappreciate it.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
My thing is always like yeah, bro, I don't know how
you do it, I'm like one'senough.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
And you, juggling multiple, you do you boo, you
know, juggling both Jugglingpoly relationship and a throuple
relation and a regularrelationship is not that bad if
you think about it.
It's not that bad.
It really isn't a lot of.
It is just communication.
When you're talking, um, in thecase of me and rad, since we're
in a poly relationship, I'm hishandler, his pop, I mean his

(05:55):
handler, his dom or whatnot.
We have an understanding foreach other.
We do that like we talked aboutit before, like the contracts,
consent, all of that stuff.
But he's actually been keepingup contacting and I've been
keeping up with him too as well.
I think we spent a little bitof time Monday, I believe,
because he knew that I was goingthrough a lot of health issues.

(06:18):
He's like I want to come spendsome time with you.
I'm like, okay, cool, and thenwe're going to have date night
here coming up soon too, as well, oh that's cool.
Yeah, some time with you.
I'm like, okay, cool, and thenwe're gonna have date night here
coming up soon too as well.
That's cool.
Yeah, we're gonna have a littledate night.
And then, uh, later on today no, wednesday we had date night
with uh fabian.
That was actually a lot of fun.
Um, yeah, just a lot of timejust for him to kind of just
compress, because school finals,all that other shit, right.

(06:40):
But with rad, uh it's.
I want to say I have morerelationships with rad than I do
with uh other, with pup tart.
Pup tart is just friends withbenefits, that's just pretty
much it.
There's no contract, there'snothing.
He does his own thing.
I, I keep, I keep up with himand whatnot.
And because he's like I feellike I'm obligated to hang out

(07:01):
with you because you bought thisand that I'm like you're not
obligated but it's appreciated.
So thank you.
And with Rad, I know we bothhave been seeing each other in a
very good minute.
We haven't played at all period, though, but I think that's
just.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
You don't want to get electrocuted on your forehead
with his butt again.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
I forgot about that.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I forgot about that.
No, it's not that I don't wantto get electrocuted again,
because that was actually a lotof fun.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
It was just on my fucking forehead I know that was
a joke, but yeah, I know youdon't mind.
I had to put it out there againbecause it was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
I forgot.
He shocked me with his ass.
Thanks for the reminder.
You're welcome.
I thought that was the bestshit ever.
When you were telling the storyI was like no, sir, but that
shit, like I, like I was.

(07:56):
I don't know why I was soscared to touch him.
I guess because I wasn'texpecting it.
But now I put this like fear inme.
But now I want to do it to him.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, because it's an adrenaline rush.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
It is really an adrenaline rush at this point.
But I think it's even funniertoo, because I can touch myself,
just fine, right, because Iwon't shock myself.
But if he touches me becausehe's done it, because he's just
like, oh hey, I'm just like, hi,you motherfucker.
So I go down and then whathappens?
If I touch something else and Iget shocked twice, it's hard,

(08:28):
you know whatnot.
So I'm just like don't do that.
So because I try to sit downlike with it, like I'm sitting
on the bed and everything, butI'm feeling the electric
currents through the mattressI'm just like, oh shit, because
the mattress on the very bottomhas its own vibration.
It's a vibrating bed because ithas its own vibration.

(08:48):
So I'm just like, well, maybethis is not a good idea.
No, so, with that being said,the electricity is actually
being printed pretty fine.
But anyhow, coming back to thewhole subject and everything of
being a poly relationship, thisis my true poly relationship.
I had my throuple in the pastwith my ex, which was a lot of
fun.
We had good times, we had badtimes and whatnot, whatever.

(09:10):
Just like any otherrelationship, right.
But communication is key With athrouple.
The thing is with a throuple isthat it's three people who are
in love with each other and allof them are in unison together.
They're basically workinghand-to-hand together.
They're in love, they're doingthings, they're going out,
they're having a good time.
It's all together.

(09:31):
It's not just one personworking on the other and whatnot
.
Now there are people who willget into throuples where the
third person is being verysneaky and try to you know, work
, you know the other person,whatnot right, and that's kind
kind of like how my throuple Iwas dealing with was similar to
that, but not as bad.
But we can feel the strangenesson the relationship and how bad

(09:55):
it became, because you can bein a toxic throuple period
without anything and it cancause a friction between
everybody else.
But communication ismotherfucking key, but you need
to still respect the primaryrelationship of a throuple,
which is the people who broughtyou in to enjoy their

(10:17):
relationship as a co.
If they have something alreadythat has nothing to do with you
and they need to talk one-on-oneprivately to be able to figure
out some things that didn'tinvolve you, you need to give
them their space to be able todo that.
Don't don't be mean about itlike, oh you don't want to talk
to me about it, no, no, no, no,that's not it just had nothing
to do with it, just had nothingto do with you.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
That's all I'm not gonna, we're not gonna bring you
in, yeah and a lot of timesthey would get mad.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Well, I'm in the relationship, so I mean, why not
tell me now, because it doesn'tinvolve you just yet?
Like this is something that weneed to talk out first before we
can bring in you into thisparticular conversation?
We don't know you that well tosay, hey, this is us in a
relationship, this is the law.
We're taking baby steps, justlike any relationship period,

(11:02):
you know.
And it's just like it would be,for instance, if I was in a
relationship and I said, dede, Ineed to speak to you privately,
and if it's like whatnot, thenwe would go somewhere to talk in
privately.
Right, it's not because I wantto try and not involve my
husband, it's because I want totalk to you privately about
something.
Maybe that happened.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
That only has to do with you and I.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Right.
So it's no different than whata throuple is Right In a poly
relationship.
It's what we call kind of likea hierarchy, almost in a sense
you have me and my husband, thenI have my boyfriend, which is
Rad, and then Rad has his ownrelationship.
So he follows his wholehierarchy.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
And I'm not relying on him for his finances.
He has his own finances, I havemy own finances.
But if I feel that if he needshelp with something financially,
I will help out where I canLike a boyfriend and a
girlfriend Right.
And then same with him.
If you wanted to help out, hewould necessarily help out if
you wanted to.
But this is just us if we wantto.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Not because we're obligated to do anything.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Because then again they have their own money that
they need to save and be able todo.
But we do have our trips.
Like we're having a trip comingup in september and we're
sitting down, we're planning it.
So we already got the days offalready for september coming up
and we're going to go campingand it's going to be at a gay
campground.
It's going to be, you know,pretty fun, pretty cool and
whatnot.
I'm already working and I'mactually really excited because,

(12:26):
one, it's a september.
Two, it's already going to belike close to fall, so it
shouldn't be too hot.
Hopefully we're not going totalk about that, yeah and I'm
getting uh, I'm getting newleather so, which is great.
So I have new leather coming inum as well, and I got one for
hubby too as well.
Uh, I know he doesn't wear.
He's not part of the kinkcommunity at all whatsoever, but

(12:49):
I try to give him something atleast yeah that's leather
related, but I always do itnerdy right.
So I know you're going to beworking on something for me for
my leather, which is great.
That's gonna.
I wanted to do dragon ball zbut, as I said, I think I'm
gonna do a gang.
I think that would be a verynice leather piece to actually
have, which I will give to youhere later now that you said
that, yeah, so, uh, that issomething that we're kind of

(13:13):
working on as, too as well, andthen, um, that's just pretty
much just kind of like dealingwith pretty much just all of
that and whatnot, and I thinkthat the main, the premises of
it, is just having a lot of funbecause and then you have your
swingers too as well.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Right, your swingers are yeah, I saw it and I was
like I have to show, jess, Ihave to show jess like not the
poor pokemon in there.
Like no, that's a load.
No, I know, that's all.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
I was like Can you imagine if you just hit a button
one time and it opens up insideyou?

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Girl, you know what you get, what you get, whatever
happens because of that.
That's what you get, prettymuch Whatever Pokemon pops out
that's what you get.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Right, you, that's what you get.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Right, you, I saw it and I'm just like saving this to
show Bessie, because what isthis?

Speaker 1 (14:13):
You know what?
That would be a good one tohave if I had it on a red vest.
That would be perfect if I hadit on a red vest.
Now I want to get me a red vest.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
So save that photo for future purposes.
That is insane, like what is yodon't ask we, we don't kiss and
tell we listen and we don'tjudge no, you're gonna get
judged bitch you're gonna get.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
You're getting judged hard no, you didn't, that's
pokemon.
You're getting judged.
You're getting judged I thinkthat's the thing.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
I think that's the best thing about being in like a
kink community and being nerdyis that a lot of these fucking
nerds are very very kinky andvery very spicy and it's fine
because, but they're also nerdof our divergent too as well,
and some of them have a very, uh, some autistic feels to their
personality, which is great.

(15:10):
Yeah, uh, I think rad's thesame way.
He's a little, he has hisautistic side or whatnot.
So I think it's just so funnybecause it's just like when we
say certain things, or I tell orexplain to him like you know,
like punishments or whatnot,whatever, like he's not allowed
to downgrade himself or sayanything bad about him, and I'm
not allowed to do that either aswell.

(15:30):
So, um, and I try not to likewhen, if I'm feeling a
particular type of way, I'm justlike, I can't believe I'm so
stupid, I can't believe I didthat.
Like why in the fuck did I dothat?
Like stupid, stupid, stupid.
And I'll say to myself when noone's around, just like but
anywho, I think, uh, with radit's so much fun because he's

(15:52):
he's my little jump scarer likeI can do something and he'll
just jump really quickly.
This is why he doesn't do a lotof like scary movies or scary
video games or whatnot, and it'sjust so fucking cute, you know.
And for my husband, um, I'veknown my husband already for
almost nine years since we'vebeen together, right and knowing
him already.
I can't scare him and I can'tscare rad either, because I'm

(16:14):
gonna get throw punched like.
It's just like.
If I have to, I have to scarefrom a distance yeah but
occasionally, and occasionallynot on purpose, ryan and him
will scare me out of fuckingnowhere.
I'm like what the fuck?
Like I wasn't doing it onpurpose.
I promise, I promise, I promise, and they're just like please
don't scare me.
Please don't scare me.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
That's what you get.
Bitch, that's what you get.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
And I'm not easily scared Like I don't know what it
is.
I just I know that I'm just notin tuned with anything because
before it was so hard to scareme like way back now I'm just
like a fucking pussy.
You can scare me, I'm fuckinglike.
But I like being scared.
I think that's the best part.
It's fun it's fun, sometimesit's sometimes if you're going
to a haunted house and you knowyou're going in there for the

(17:04):
thrill of it, right?

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, but we did not expect it.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
We were like boy do not go there, yeah, you will get
throw punched Big time, butanywho, so we have this
relationship and I know them.
They're two dynamic individuals.
My husband, he's very love andinfection.
He's, uh, very understanding.
I give him as much as love andattention as I possibly can.

(17:29):
He's a fucking nerd when itcomes to books and amongst other
things too as well.
But I mean that man can fuckingbuy and he's like, oh, I buy my
stuff.
I'm like, yeah, but bro, slowthe fuck down.
And he's doing this thing rightnow with the claw machine.
It's so fucking cute with thebooks, it's super fucking
adorable it is, I'm like it'ssuper fucking cute, uh.

(17:54):
So he has that.
So I know each of them.
I uh rad.
He likes his uh magic of thegathering.
He's very into dnd.
He's having a lot of fun.
Uh, certain days he has dndnight, some days he doesn't.
I think saturdays or sundays isdnd night.
I mean, yeah, so if I get offwork or whatnot, I kind of spend
, I try to spend quality time,yeah, with it.

(18:16):
But tuesday wins monday.
Tuesday quality times withhubby I get to spend time with
him because I get off like atseven and I get to kind of spend
now, and then I have game nightthat I spend time with him,
because I get off like at sevenand I get to kind of spend now,
and then I have game night thatI spend time with him.
To be able to do that withhubby, yeah, I normally spend it
with rather like going to likecertain events.
Like I think this weekend hehas an event coming up or one

(18:36):
that I will probably end upgoing to and see how that's
coming along and see how that'sgoing and whatnot.
That's awesome, so kudos to himfor that.
I think he's also going to beon call too as well, but I'm
just like shit, dude sucks.
But that's the thing about polyrelationships is that I do like
, when I'm talking to other guys, I let my other boys know like,

(18:58):
oh hey, I'm talking to this oneguy, he seems really cool, um,
but I'm getting to know himfirst before I, before I
introduce them to anybody,anybody, it's you know I need to
you need to know him firstright, yeah, so naturally that's
naturally, just like any otherrelationship
you get to know people beforeyou commit yourself to said
relationship and it's and it'scool because, um, a lot of a lot

(19:23):
of people who who've seen rad?
They're just like, oh, I'veseen a lot of change in him.
I'm like, oh, thank you, Iappreciate that.
No, like you're his boy, he'syour boy.
I'm like, yeah, he's my boy.
Like, wow, he's calmed down awhole lot.
Like what is it that you'redoing?
I was like I just praise himLike that, praise them, like
that's all all the boys need isjust praising.

(19:44):
Like I'm proud of you, keep itup, be the best thing that you
can.
And I'm on top of them when itcomes to their medication and
whatnot.
Like, hey, have you taken yourprep?
Have you done this?
Have you had your water?
How's everything going?
I'm always asking how's it work?
It's good.
And I'm like that's fine.
Like I get that you're far awayand I get that you're on these

(20:06):
trips.
But just remember, it's becauseyou're working and hopefully
you're getting a little extra ontop of that, right, and you're
being a really good boy by doingyour work.
So keep it up.
You know, and sometimes havingthose praises for a lot of
people is just so fuckingamazing, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
It's just so fucking amazing you know what I mean.
So yeah, because sometimes itmakes all the difference.
It really does, because they'reseen.
That's it.
Yeah, that's it.
Somebody saw them and theyacknowledge them and their
struggle, and that's it like hisbaby voice.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
When he does his baby voice, it's so fucking cute.
It is so fucking cute because Ilike and he's like yay I'm just
like oh so fucking cute, um,but I don't know where the baby
voice has come from originally.
I haven't asked him, though,but he does like when he does
talk, he talks normally, andwhen I, when I hear his normal
voice, I know that he's likegetting into a conversation

(20:55):
right he's a big youtuber, justlike my husband.
I'm just like her music choices.
I do have concerns wow, wowbecause you'll listen to
something.
And he goes like daddy, can Iput a song on?
I'm just saying you get onesong and then you have to put it

(21:18):
back, okay why?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
what's so bad about it?

Speaker 1 (21:26):
it's not my cup of tea for one and two, uh.
Um, when we're hanging out andnormally when I just get off of
work, I'm still in the likeprocess of de-stressing.
So that's just.
The main thing is that I'mstill decompressing on a lot of
the situations.
So it's it's kind of like I'mtrying to listen, I like I'm
still trying to decompresswhenever I get from over there

(21:46):
and I haven't fully decompressedall the way and I'm just like
sometimes I just need him tolove on me, hug on me, and
that's pretty much where I'mjust like and he wants to sing
and everything, which I got.
Nothing against the singing,because he sings fucking
beautifully.
I love when he sings, it'sgreat.
But sometimes I'm just like boy, shut the fuck up, just hold me
really moment, because I'm justtrying to fucking decompress

(22:07):
from work.
God damn it.
I don't tell him these thingsbecause I feel bad.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
And.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
I'm not an asshole.
I Because I feel bad, and I'mnot an asshole.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
I mean, I am an asshole.
I was like, oh yeah, Don't lie.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
I'm not, I really am not an asshole, maybe to y'all,
because y'all deserve it, butstill.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Excuse me, the hell we do.
We don't do nothing to deserveit it is just so funny.
Look, I've got enough shit fortonight, okay.
Bitch I haven't done anythingyet no, not from you.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
I'm talking about online shit.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Oh the stuff that I read.
Oh, that's right, that is justfucking.
I haven't touched it.
So who knows what's waiting forme now?

Speaker 1 (22:47):
bitch, welcome to fucking social media.
Holy shit, people get theirasses hurt, it's hilarious
because, like I said, it'slinked.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
I'm never on that platform Ever, because I post
what I post on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Right.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Because it's linked, it automatically goes over there
, but I never jump on it.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
But you know, when people don't read the captions
or the things that are above it,they just see that.
Yeah, and then all of a sudden,they're triggered by it.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, they just keep getting notification after going
on with this me.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
I just would be like so it's not that the red flag is
this.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
It's the red flag that you didn't read the
captions that I put I'm like Iput this thing because I was
sharing it so that I candiscredit it, because I don't
feel that it's true I would belike, bro, are you fucking
stupid?

Speaker 1 (23:27):
like, see, that's the thing I look.
Yes, I'm an asshole in somepoints of you know, whatever.
Oh, my god, I'm gettingdefensive.
And it's funny because, yes,I'm an asshole when it comes to
certain things, like if it'sjust like, really, I think
that's everybody Really.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
I think that's everybody.
Because, dude, if there'sinjustices, I will be like I'm
sorry.
What I will dude, I'm like no,they didn't like.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
If my boss I remember my, my former boss, yeah, my
like.
Here's the s like.
Here's the example of me beingan asshole, like major, like
assholeness.
Is that my boss, my last bossthat I worked for at ikea?
I called him a cunt.
Like he, I literally called hima cunt.
He's just like what I startedjust a little bit right are you

(24:24):
naturally a cunt or is this iswho you are as a person, like,
because, naturally, like, I'vedealt with a lot of cunts.
But, bro, you are more gay thanI am and you got a girlfriend,
the fuck like.
Well, I'm just doing whatthey're telling me and do you
normally listen to what they say?
Like, are you naturally stupid?

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Even when it's a douchebag move.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah, that's the thing.
Like I'm cool, I'm down, butyeah, I guess I am an asshole.
Thank you, thank you, not onpurpose, thank you when is dilly
deserved I mean yes, absolutelywhen it's deserved what did I
do to you?

Speaker 2 (25:07):
let me tally that shit up real quick can wrap
around the earth twice, that'sawesome see.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
I'm not.
I'm not a bad asshole with youor anybody else.
I'm a lovable asshole.
That's just like.
I'm gonna call it out for whatit is because I think it's funny
yeah because, like how theyalways ask me, do you know what
time?
It is same time as yesterday,but 24 hours later, bitch bitch?

Speaker 2 (25:30):
yeah, you're just, you're a smart-ass asshole yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
I am a smart-ass asshole.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, that's what you are.
And I've met some people who Ican meet my match and just say,
hmm, yeah, no, because then therest of us were sitting there
like, oh shit.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah, exactly, here we go, here we go.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Because now nobody can be outdone in this group.
Dear Lord, no I wish we couldrecord game night for you guys.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Because it's always me and the fucking twink.
They're always going head tohead.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
That's why, and then sometimes, Sometimes John will
chime in, chime in.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
I'm just like are you fucking for real?

Speaker 2 (26:08):
dude.
Sometimes Fabian will chime inwith everybody else, or him, and
the twink will go.
I'm just like yo, you, but heyells for him in the twink.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
I'm just like yo, you got.
You got a twink in the pubgoing after each other.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
We're sitting across the table Just like shaking our
heads Like oh my God.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
And sometimes I don't have to do anything, like the
pup just does everything for me,Like he some of the shit he
says I'm like damn.
Cause he missed he's just likeI know you don't like the twink,
so it's not that I don't likethe twink, as I tolerate the
twink.
There's a fucking bigdifference, so but I think all
of it is hilarious.
That's just me I digress, Imean, they don't well, because

(26:46):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yeah, I'm well, I'm not.
I'm just saying I'm not into.
I don't feel any particular wayabout anybody yeah that's why.
So my thing is like I love.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
It's not that I don't like, so it's not that I don't
like the twink because I can'tsay I don't like him.
I mean, he already knows that Ifeel a particular type of way
about it.
You know whatnot yeah but weused to be close right so, but
anyway, that's natural.
But anyway, back to likepolyanthropals and whatnot.
Like that's the thing about,like it's what it's great about

(27:14):
hanging out with the men thatI've been with or whatnot,
because it's a lot of fun.
It has been a lot of fun, it'sbeen a great time it's been.
I wouldn't change it for theworld at all period.
And a lot of people are justlike, well, why do you do it?
I'm like the reason I do it'sbecause I can.

(27:34):
I can love everybody genuinelybut at the same time I'm still
going to respect therelationship I have.
Uh, and I like my husband's nota very outdoorsy person.
Like if we wanted to go to thatcamping, he'd be like, yeah, no
oh, it's camping, it's outside,outside.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

(27:55):
But with Rad, he likes camping,but he likes these kind of
things too, and it's part of thewhole King Fest, king Keith.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Right.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
It's his thing.
It's his thing.
So it's his thing, it's mything.
We're going to have a fun,we're going to have a good time.
No-transcript.

(28:24):
Do you really want to do what Iwant to do?
Because what I want to do isnot exactly what you want to do.
You know so, because you knowlet's, I don't know.
Uh, I think it's just a hubby'snot he like we can go to.
We haven't gone to the sanantonio zoo in a good minute
though, but if we do go to thezoo, it's just like it's hot,

(28:46):
and I'm just like he's alreadycomplaining.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
I'm already like I'm gonna go home, the san antonio
zoo no, not yet.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
We need to go I don't .

Speaker 2 (28:54):
I don't think I've ever been to the center.
That's what I'm saying, likeever ever I've been to the
dallas zoo and I've been to thegladys porter zoo in brownsville
.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
But all I know is we take you.
We're taking a big ass umbrellaand a shit ton of water bitch
like charlie I forget my 100 spf.
Bitch, you need a 500 spf I do.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
We can go in the fall .
I'm just saying this is not so.
I'm sure ryan would appreciatethat too, because I'm just in
the summer, at least in the fallit's still sunny enough.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
It's just, it's nice and breezy, that's all yeah,
there's not a much foot trafficthough, but there's a lot of
good stuff that goes on in thesummertime.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Like what the little stations that sell snow cones
yeah, that's fucking cool Snowcones.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Watch out now you can get snow cone anywhere.
I know they're really expensive.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
You can literally go to a corner store on the west
side.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Back on tracks, ma'am .

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Sorry, you mentioned the zoo Squirrel sorry you
mentioned the zoo squirrel.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, literally my adhd is kicking in.
You know what I think?
It's even funny.
People think that you and I arein a poly relationship because
we're so close and we're alwaysdoing shit it's because we're
brothers and sisters yeah,exactly, I'm just like no,
that's not how that works no,that's not how that works at all
no, at all, like hell, no Imean, we're not really brothers
and sister, are you?
On love.
Define love, friends, friends,brother and sister, yep, oh so

(30:21):
incest, no, no.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
I'm sorry what.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Kill me.
You want to run that by meagain.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
It's like that's my little brother.
Yeah, she's my older sister.
That's disgusting.
Speaking of old Bitch.
Wow, look, I already said itone time I had enough shit for
tonight.
I don't need it from you too,brother, you will not come at me

(30:54):
.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
I was going to for a moment.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
I have done nothing to you.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I don't care but, I'm not an asshole someone told me
how do you know how?
How do you think didi is?
I don't know, I just count thewrinkles on her forehead you're
not an asshole, not at all Itold that to ab the other day
because because of his birthdayjust passed.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
You're just a whole ass dick.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, yeah, Because his birthday passed.
He was like aw, you look yourage, he goes.
What the fuck is that supposedto mean?
I can count the wrinkles onyour forehead.
I was like aw, the bagsunderneath your eye.
You can put tundra underneaththere.
If you add the bags under youreyes, you get your age.
I love this for you.

(31:39):
He's like fuck you, You're anasshole.
Happy birthday, we're aware.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
You say this like you didn't know.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
But I think my throuple that I had I don't
regret it that I had, I don'tregret it, I think it was, I
don't think I know it was a verygood learning curve and a
learning tool, uh, for thatrelationship.
And what, um, if me and hubbywas to ever find a throuple and
we were to ever do that again,uh, there would be definitely

(32:13):
some rules that we would placeforward on there.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
I think that was the whole purpose of it, to be
honest, yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
I think we need to get to know the person a little
bit better before anything else.
And I think the next step isthey need to be financially
stable, because that's going tobe the main thing Like if
something happens.
Like what are we?
Because when you're in athrouple and you know you're
going to move in and you'remaking that big, drastic change,
having someone move in intoyour whole life, you, you know,

(32:45):
bills become more than whatanticipated with.
You know what I mean.
but I think this time it's justgoing to be like make sure you
have your own vehicle, have yourown insurance right you need to
pay for that, yeah, um, but asfar as like groceries, all that
stuff, that's something you allhave to talk about when it comes
to the throuples, because thepeople are like, well, how are
the bills?
Like it doesn't get moreexpensive.
I think it gets more crowded,because you definitely need a

(33:07):
bigger setting when it comes toa house, because it's not just
your stuff, it's also theirstuff too as well.
So you need a bigger um area tokind of call home.
You know what I mean.
So I think that's another thingthat people don't realize,
especially a poly relationship.
You don't need a whole lot ofspace when it comes to poly
relationship because,necessarily, they have their own

(33:29):
space, they have their ownhouse, they have their own place
where they can kind of go.
And I think that's kind of likethe thing that when we were
trying to look for a house, wewere trying to figure out where
it's going to be more convenientfor a lot of places.
Hubby said he likes the thousandoaks area.
I kind of liked it where mastercad and rad were at, because

(33:50):
that area is pretty much growingand it's booming and it's kind
of closer to um traders village.
So yeah, that's.
They're close to that way,remember, because we went, you
went with us, they're goingthere.
Yeah, that's south.
So for ryan and ryan wants tokind of come over here by a
thousand oaks because he said hereally likes that area, whatnot

(34:12):
?
I'm like, okay, well, that'sfine, I just tend to do whatever
he wants, like, okay, that'swhat you want, that's what you
want.
But I'm just like, fuck, Idon't think he goes, well,
because, would that matter?
I was like it doesn't matter,you just got to remember,
wherever we got to go, I have tostill pick up dd.
So it's going to be in thatdistance.
And and we're just like, whenwe just have dd moving with us,

(34:36):
I'm like, well, that's not anissue, but we need a big space.
So if we're gonna do a bigspace and we just need to do it
or not and we both joke, becausewe joked with you guys why she
can be the help of my bitch-wouldn't be any different than
what I've been my entire lifebro the help lives here because

(34:56):
we had ongoing jokes at my mom'shouse too yeah, no people

Speaker 2 (34:59):
come over and everybody's sitting at the
dining table and they're eatingand I'm over there by the
counter just eating off my plateand they're like you're not
gonna sit down and I would jokeand I would be like, oh no, I'm
the help and I'm not allowed tosit at the table.
And they're like, oh yeah.
And they're like what?
And of course my mom and dadare like really, really, and I
was like I'm kidding, oh my God,like I'm good, like yeah, I

(35:20):
would joke, like I'd literallyjust be like did?

Speaker 1 (35:22):
you really just say that and make us look bad.
That is fucking hilarious, yeah, and you know what's funny?
Our friends would actuallybelieve it.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Like you're a dick.
Yeah, I know you would be likeoh no, they don't let me sit at
the table.
They're like what?
Oh shit, it's gonna be if if itever comes, if we ever move in
together.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
It's gonna be a thing this is so fucking hilarious,
but it's, that's funny.
It's one of those things like Ijust I genuinely love our
friendship, hannah, becausefriendships and if you think
about friends, friends genuinelyare just like a poly
relationship, because yourfriends have their own friends
and friends and then you havethe hierarchy friends where you

(36:01):
have your og friends that yougrew up with, that you initially
would hang out with besidesyour other friends, right.
So it's kind of like that, likewhen I call like my, my best
friends from corpus and like ohyou have another best friend.
I'm like bitch, I barely fuckingtalk to you like what the fuck
you mean.
But it's funny because theother friends will get like five
best friends yeah, you can havefive best friends, that's what

(36:22):
I said.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
No, I think I have like five.
I got five yeah but nobody'snobody.
Nobody feels any type of wayabout any of the others, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
It's on my friends, it's just fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
That's weird.
It's like, oh, they're my bestfriend and not yours.
Like, okay, they're not yourperson, they're your best friend
.
Like what?

Speaker 1 (36:40):
I think it's funny because the best friend, as a
best friend title, it feels thatit's given to them because
they're the only friend and theydon't realize their other.
Like I have my bad bitchesclick.
You know what I mean I have.
I have my click and I know theclick.
Who I hang around with willknow exactly, I know who have my
back and I know who willquestion going.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
I don't know, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
So it's, uh, becomes very that.
So for the most part, I justkind of kind of just chill for a
moment.
You know what I mean, because Ithink naturally I just need, I
like that, I like that you'rehere, I like that we're doing
this podcast and everything elsehere as well now, because this
is what technically ourfriendship would be technically

(37:23):
a poly relationship, but forfriends right.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
So yeah, because to kind of think about it, that's
how it is, it's like it's likefamily, look like you said all
the time like brother and sisteror whatever, but we're like
that brother and sister thatgrew up tight yeah, you know
what I mean, like it.
Oh so he was my ride or die thewhole time.
We grew up and vice versa.
You know what I?

Speaker 1 (37:40):
mean, yeah, like we were friends all the way through
, like from like wrestling andwhatnot, like we weren't as
closed during wrestling but wewould talk shit or whatnot to
say things, and we would be inthe corner like, oh wow, you
know, but that was before, Ithink.
I don't know, was I already outof the closet or did I come out
of the closet?

Speaker 2 (37:57):
you came out of the closet because I think, I think
we were like the second or thirdpeople that you told right yeah
, and we're just kind of like oh, thank you for trusting us.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, it was like me coming out to y'all fine, and I
wasn't fully comfortable with mysexuality at that time.
I was still kind of, I thinkpeople would they peg me to be
like very straight, like very Iwas sure, yeah, for sure,
because when you came out I Ihonestly wouldn't have known but
, especially because when I metyou, you were with your
girlfriend at the time, yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
So I was just kind of like oh yeah, straight dude,
like no biggie.
So when you were like you cameout where I was like oh faggot
wow no, that's hilarious, that'sso bad.
Dang, just paint me and jamesas bad people.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Dang, no, we didn't they would, they really would
come.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
No, we're just like dude that was cool, like that
was.
That was cool because, like Isaid, we felt proud that you
were comfortable enough with usto come out, like for us to be
some of the first people.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Yeah, because you've seen some of the shit that I've
been through.
Like for some of therelationships I'm just like holy
shit.
And then even now I'm just likedamn.
Like how do you get back intothe same situation that you were
in before, but in a throupleLike it doesn't make any sense.
No, you get you back into thesame situation that you were in
before, but in a throuple likeit doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
No, not no more, because guess what?
His sister lives here with himnow, I know so when he brings
somebody, he'll be like I don'tlike this one bitch.
It's like why?

Speaker 1 (39:24):
because he's something he's acting like the
others as soon as she says thatyou're deuces.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
I'm sorry he's like no, no, we have to go our
separate ways.
It's not?
It's not me, it's you yep, it'snot him, it's you.
You're not gonna, you're notabout to do my brother wrong but
no, it's uh.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
but that's just a thing, because you, when
relationship you take serious,you take any relationship
seriously.
Now I'm not knocking monogamousrelationship, because, yeah,
monogamy is where it's at for alot of people.
I mean, if you just want to dothat, you can, that's not a
problem.
I can do monogamy.
If hubby was 100% what I wasdoing, I could probably do
monogamy.
In that sense, I would onlykeep it open unless we decided

(40:07):
to bring someone else home andwe were both agreeing on to it.
We had a conversation.
Then we would become the wholeswingers.
So that's the thing.
You have different aspects anddifferent relationships and
different cultures and how theyhave it.
It's just how it is.
Like some cultures, people havefive wives.
Take the fuck Like okay Kudosto you Shit.

(40:28):
Like hey, I don't want that,that's what I said.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
I'm like I, that's what I said.
I'm like I'm cool with just theone dude.
I'm not about to jugglemultiple because china, bro, I
mean granted, granted, they'rebeing the men that I expect them
to be or want them to be,because I'm for me.
This is just my opinion, mypreference for me.
Whenever I'm with my man, Iwant him to lead as a man.

(40:58):
All right, I want him to be theleader.
Like, does it be?
Like, oh, you're gonna be afollower, like I would.
I'd love to live in myfemininity.
Yes, yeah, you guess what?
Because I've lived in my entirelife in my masculinity.
I don't want to do that, nomore.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Like, you want somebody who's take the lead.
You know who can take the leadbut also coddle you in a sense.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Oh yeah, like no, no yeah, absolutely, he can take
the lead, but I'm still beingworshipped, bitch you know what
I mean.
Like no, no, no let's get thisright let's get this, yeah it's
not me being a follower and justlike a little puppy, like no, I
need you to lead the right wayyou know, I don't know if you
ever meet somebody, I might haveto punch him in the throat why
not, if he's doing that?

Speaker 1 (41:38):
if he's not, because you're taking my best friend
away.
No, don't do that oh don'tdon't.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Don't take her away, but how is he taking me away?

Speaker 1 (41:45):
don't take her away.
He's not taking me away.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Technically, he'll be giving me what I freaking need.
That's all.
And you want me to be happy?
Hello, hello.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Let's go with that.
So look, I will be a goodsister to you, you will be a
good brother to me.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
I don't like you.
Why you took her away from me,bitch?

Speaker 2 (42:09):
I'll be like really dude, be like, don't be petty
brother.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Don't be petty, but you're being nice to her.
But if I find out you touch herin any way, shape or form and
I'm not talking.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
I'm not talking sexually, but if you beat her,
ain't gonna happen if I see ablack eye on her ain't gonna
happen, because the momentsomebody raised their voice to
me, I will throat punch that hoecan you imagine being in a
relationship and youaccidentally get a black eye,
like legitimately, accidentallyget a black eye?

Speaker 1 (42:39):
that would be fun.
I'd be looking at you like thatwould be.
So I would be like that, betterbe fucking makeup that Like you
, better Hold on Hold on.
Hold on, we have a good.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
I need you to sit and I need to explain why the hell
you have that on your face rightnow.
You're like I promise youwasn't this Because I swear to
God, if I look like that, if itwas that and I look like this,
you should look at homeboy.
I'm going to tell you right now, All I know is homeboy better
sleep with one eye open.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
That's for sure, Because we're not doing the
Jennifer Lopez.
Enough bullshit here.
Man Trying to escape.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
That's awesome, he's asleep.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
That's awesome, but I think that's just the thing
nobody didn't realize is thatyou know you can have a cycle
relationship in poly monogamy orin a thruple period.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
I mean, that's just yeah, that's just how it is,
because that's based on theperson, not necessarily the
relationship preference, whichreally sucks.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
But it is what it is.
At the end of the day, youthere's not that much you can do
about preferences.
I mean you can aboutpreferences because everybody
has a preference, right, but youcan't do anything that when
true colors are finally shownand you see it and you're just
like God damn it yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
That's why I said my thing is everybody's in such a
rush because they're looking forinstant gratification, they're
looking to fulfill somethingthat they cannot fulfill
themselves, or they're choosingnot to fulfill themselves, um,
or they're looking for it out ofloneliness, because they're
avoiding things.
When they do that, they're notgiving themselves, nor the other

(44:25):
person, enough time to get toknow each other before they just
jump into shit.
So later down the line, whensomething pops off, that's when
the real color show and they'relike oh shit, I'm stuck.
Yeah, how come you didn't takeyour time, dude?
Everybody's still like oh,because we don't have a lot of
time for what the shit that'smeant for you will happen as
it's meant for you yeah, I thinka lot of a lot of it too is um,

(44:48):
you find out.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Even this is why.
Uh, there was a story that Ijust saw really quickly just to
kind of go off off subject herereally quickly because I found
something on TikTok and the guywas talking about let me find it
here really quickly, it won'ttake me long.
So he was talking about likehow he's not trying to find what
he was like what's up with thegay community?
I'm not trying to find um, youknow x, y and z on certain

(45:14):
things and whatnot and I'm justlike okay, where is he going
with this?
And it dawned on me that theguy is literally just wanting
someone to love here.
It is Probably a little bit of ashocker for some of the gay men
out there because sex is solike normalized in the gay
community.
But I don't want to fuck on thefirst date.

(45:35):
I don't even really want you totouch me.
I don't want any intimateactions on the first date
because I don't fucking know you.
You are a stranger to me.
I'm trying to get to know you.
Why is it so normalized?
Why is it like an expectationat this point?

Speaker 2 (45:51):
at this point it might be a little bit of a
shocker for some of the gay menout there.
I get that.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
So, and I get that too because, like I said, it's a
preference, it is a preferencebut remember what I used to talk
about and I said okay, ifyou're going to go on a date,
fuck on the first night, right?
I also got to remember thatdoesn't work for everybody yeah
you know what I mean, but I'veonly my thing was I'm more like
homeboy yeah I'm just kind oflike uh, I can't do that, I for
me right personally, I'm like Ican't.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
I can't have sexual relations with anybody that I
don't, I cannot bond with.
How do you bond with somebody?
You got to get to know that ina poly relationship.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
I'm the same way too.
I can't just get with somebodybecause there's a lot of gays.
They're just like oh, I, I wantto be in a throuple with you
and your husband, I want to be,and it gets cute to kind of go
back and forth and just likewhatever, though, but at the
same time I'm just like bro.
These are like when I see youtalking about or say something,
and I see something on your postand you say something out loud
and I'm just like I'm not.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
I'm not about that once they're starting to to
suggest being in a relationshipwith you.
That's where it's like okay,but that's something that's very
serious yeah you see what I'msaying.
So it's like we could do, youknow, the messing around, but
when you take it there, that's,that's something I have to make
a big decision on, whereas forme, I'm like it doesn't even
have to be the relationship part, just even the sex alone.

(47:02):
I'm like for me that'ssomething serious yeah, so I'm
just like no for me.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
I think the sex for me.
When I say that you knowfucking the first night, it's
because it tells me on the firstdate If I'm going to spend all
this and.
I say I'm the one to say, hey, Iwould like to take you on a
date.
Yeah, my treat, you don't haveto worry about anything or
whatnot.
It's because if I can afford it, I can afford it.
Right, I'll do it.
I, in a poly relationship, ifI'm going to go on a date, see

(47:28):
what he's all about or whatnot,and goes, is he like, is it's
like for work or is it like no,I genuinely like the guy.
I want to get to know him andsee what he's about.
He likes me and he wants toknow what he's about.
He finds you attractive.
So let me test out and see howeverything works out and kind of
go from there and if it worksout and say, yeah, it's great,
then we'll all hang out andwhatnot.
Yeah, uh, so it's just kind oflike something like that.

(47:50):
Like I said, I learned from thelast relationship too as well
that we just kind of all need tobe on this on the same footing
yeah, period, you have to get toknow somebody in the long run
yeah, because if hubby doesn'tlike you and he doesn't and he
finds you annoying, like he's,just like it's not gonna work
out.
yep, because I may find youattractive, I may find you fun,
but if that's only for me andyou and not for him, Exactly

(48:13):
what kind of how?

Speaker 2 (48:14):
honestly, honestly, how long do you expect that
throuple to last?

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Right.
So it's just like in the morein the meantime, I'm just kind
of like I'm not looking for one.
I'm not looking for anythingbecause I can't take the right
medication that I need to take,just to be able to have the fun
that I need to have fun.
So, yes, I need to be able tohave the fun that I need to have
fun.
So, yes, I need to be likehomeboy here, right?
So it's uh, it's just prettymuch that I can't.
I can't do the things that Iwant to do, even if I do decide

(48:38):
to want to bottom, I'm gonnahave to wear a condom.
I have the other person wear acondom on me right normally I'm
a fucking breeder.
So, yeah, naturally.
But I have to be more cautiousand I told, I told rad and I I
told everybody else I can't bethat same person.
It's sexually, as frustratingas it may be, I have to be more

(49:00):
cautious about myself because ifI get sick, I can't take the
medicine that is supposed tohelp out HIV, to bring down the
viral loads or whatnot.
That's going to be fucking hellon earth for me.
So, yeah, this is for me.
So, yeah, this is occasionallya me going, this is the
universal leader, going, fuckyou, you need to slow down.
You know what I mean?
You're not young.
I mean, yes, I'm young, but I'mnot young like I used to be.

(49:23):
You know, and when the peopleare like, oh, you're 37, you're
still a baby, you're like, yeah,says the 50 year old.
You know, it's just like fuckoff.
You know, even when the phonecalls are just like, oh, yeah,
I'm 80, no, don't ever get oldman, I'm 37, that's hilarious
like I'm 37 people say actuallyI love when people say don't
have kids.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
I love when they tell me that because, yeah, because
my mom would always tell me that, which is funny because she's
the one that had all the kids.
So she would always be likedon't have kids, and I'll just
be like, okay, right, andeverybody would just laugh.
So now, when they tell me it'slike don't have kids, I'm like I
listened.
I mean not, that that wasn'tthe reason why, you guys, but I
like just saying that response,like I listened don't worry

(50:05):
about it.
I got it and she's just and it'sfunny because the one time I
did tell her she was like, okay,well, at least have one, you
know, so I can have one grandkidfrom you, whatever.
And I'm like, nope, too late,sorry, sorry I know, that's my
prime.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
My mom's like am I ever gonna have kids from you?
Nope yeah nope, and it's funny.
You can have the four-leggedkind, but that's the best you're
gonna get lady sorry it'spretty much.
It like yeah, if you're notshowing up at their funeral,
don't come, don Don't bother.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
And it's funny because people were just like,
oh well, did you want kids?
Like yeah, when I was younger Iwanted like at least.
Oh, if I can at least have oneof each, I'd be cool with that.
You know what I mean.
If it's more, it's more,whatever.
But it's weird.
I never did anythingpreventative, I just.

(50:52):
It probably would have beenJames.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Right.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
The ironic thing is James didn't survive this
lifetime, so it's kind of a goodthing that I didn't, because I
honestly can't imagine having todeal with his death and having
to mother an infant Right,because that would have killed
me.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Oh yeah, that would have fucking killed me.
We would have been the gayuncles taking care of you.
We would have been the gayuncles.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
But for whatever reason it didn't work out and
I'm kind of like because, that'show it was meant to go, and did
I really need to?

Speaker 1 (51:23):
No, no, no, no, no.
But I think that's kind of likethe beauty of like.
If you're going to have a kid,you need to be financially
stable to have a kid period andyou need to have the space and
you need to have the time tofocus your time and attention.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
For me, I, I think if I'm gonna do a kid, you need to
be prepared uh, it's not thatI'm prepared.
I think I won't do kids or be afoster parent until I was
agreeing with you, like ifyou're, if you plan on having a
kid, you just need to beprepared.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Oh yeah, as a whole I think for me I would be a
foster parent.
But I wouldn't be a fosterparent till like way in my 50s,
like I would start late, likewhy do you want to be foster
parents?
I got plenty of room and I amretired, so I'm hoping to retire
by time I'm 15, plenty of timeyeah, I know, if retirement's
like you're not tools to retireinto your 70s, yeah, I'm not

(52:10):
waiting that long, I'm gonnaretire when I'm 50.
Bitch like no, I gotta makemoney now.
That's why I'm pushing hard.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
I have a co-worker who is retired really you'll
never guess how old she is howold?
She's 38 nice, nice yeah, andI'm like I'm sorry what?
She's like yeah, and I'm justlike so why are you working here
?
She's like so, I have somethingto do.
I'm like oh, my god, that isawesome like what she's like.
Yeah, she's like I'm actuallytrying to find like a house

(52:35):
around here.
She's like this area orwhatever of the city.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
I'm like girl good for you like what I'm trying to
find it because it's like I meangenuinely I would just love to
just sit back and just retireand just kind of kick back and
just let it happen.
Whatever kind of happens.
Like I want money to flow theway it needs to, how, whatever
business that is.
Like I don't want to workforever I definitely don't want

(53:00):
to be well in my 70s or 60s Iwouldn't invest something into
where I'm just like, ah, this iswhere I just let my investment
take care of whatever needs totake care of or whatnot.
But yeah, no, I just I.
Kids in a poly relationship isgreat.
I think that's also anothercommunication that people

(53:21):
there's a polyamorous group thatI'm in on Telegram that they do
talk about how they take careof kids and a lot of them have a
lot of issues when it comes tomental health that they all talk
about and everything.
So they're all there and theyall ask questions like, hey, how
do you handle this and whatnot.
That's cool.
I'm young and I don't have anyof those issues and my issues
that I have that I've alreadyspeak to uh, rad and hubby about

(53:43):
.
It's just like we're all on thesame wavelengths, that we we
kind of like sit down and we sitdown, we talk and we chat and
we talk more about what we needto get fixed and what needs to
be done, and as simple as that.
Like it's just how it is, youknow.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
No, I agree.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
But I think it was.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Especially because the way the world is changing,
it's like the idea of havingkids or the people that do have
kids, like they're alreadystruggling way more than they
should or way more than theyneed, because they have said
somebody who has like 15 kids.
I'm like bro, stay off of hernot like that, like how are you
even surviving in this economy?

Speaker 1 (54:19):
I'm just wondering how the girlfriend is surviving
in this economy, like, how areyou even still moving, like you
carried how many kids?
That just goes to show you allwell, because here's the thing
like I see women who have likekids back to back and I know
that women need to build uptheir nutrition right back

(54:39):
because they need the certainnutrition to be able to hold a
baby and I don't think nutritionlike getting that nutrition
within a year is literally notin today's it depends, it
depends if you're healthy andyou're taking care of yourself,
then probably I was going to sayit depends, Because sometimes
their genetics it just makes ittank.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Yeah, and there's other girls.
They can handle it.
They're cool.
They don't tank as well or Imean as bad as the other girls.
Because there's this particulargirl online.
I think she has five kids Inbetween her second and her third
.
Her nutrition levels were soincredibly low she lost a
ridiculous amount of her teethwow they literally just fell out

(55:20):
.
There was no gingivitis, therewas no, like you know,
underlying disease, uh, dentaldisease, it she was so
malnourished which was crazy,because she wasn't skinny, it
was just.
It took everything from her tocreate and birth that child.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Yeah, because.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
I'm like, I'm sorry, what.
That is insane.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
I don't think women realize like I'm not trying.
Oh, here I am.
I'm going to try not explainingsomething here real quickly.
Jesus, how dare you man,explain my body?
I know I'm sorry, I doapologize, let's see mansplain
to me.
I think it's important for awoman to be very nourished, very
healthy, to be able to go I'mready to have another kid.

(56:02):
I think there's, there has tobe, a way to tell if a woman is
nourished enough to be able tocarry another kid.
I think this is why, when I seekids parents are having kids
like one after another, likeyear, a year after year after
year, year after year I'm justlike, how are you doing health
wise?

Speaker 2 (56:21):
because I am genuinely concerned for you yeah
, because it says certain onesyes yeah, certain ones, I don't
know, dude, they they're builtdifferent and that just pop them
suckers out Like nobody'sbusiness Like little gremlins.
And they're gravy.
I'm like girl, what you go.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Wonder Woman, I'm sorry, is sperm like your water
base, like we're not supposed tofeed you after midnight, like,
damn, like I get you neednutrition.
But damn, what's your fuckinghusband?
Is your husband?
Pi, pi, god damn, fucking,shooting out like cannons and
God damn man.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Like it depends.
It depends on the woman's body.
No, I get it and I'm just like,and I'm like ladies, please
take care of yourself.
I'm genuinely concerned on yourwell-being.
And I know someone's going tobe like how dare you say that?
No, I don't know.

(57:16):
I mean that wasn't maxine.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
I'm just genuinely concerned like how is your?
Nutrition it's nothingmalicious, no like how's your
nutrition?

Speaker 1 (57:23):
because genuinely I wonder if doctors genuinely do
check that, like hey, you needto get your nutrition levels up
before you decide to do that,and I don't think the doctor's
gonna do that unless you're richand you do it just because you
want to be on top of your ownhealth.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
So you, obviously you have the doctor do that for you
, but now, other than that, notuntil you're pregnant.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Then they'll be like, okay, well then, cool, take
your I'm just wondering like areyou building like the
winchester house?
Like are there rooms on top ofrooms on top of rooms?

Speaker 2 (57:56):
They don't give you what you need until after
finding out, hence why you'represcribed prenatals.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Yeah, I'm just like damn.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
But by then I'm like, well, that's for the baby
though, yeah.
That's for the baby.
That's it.
That's all I like and her whatabout her.
Supposedly enough.
Supposedly it's enough.
So I'm like I mean I'm not amom.
I never birthed a child.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
I'm not a dad.
I've never planted a seedanywhere besides men, and I'll
keep it that way.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
So it's funny, my friends get after me when I say
that it's like well, I'm not amom.
They're like you're a mom,you're just, you didn't have one
and I'm like so then I'm not amom.
They're like no, because youraised a bunch of them, you, you
know.
And I'm like okay whatever.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Don't mean I'm a fucking mom just because I
raised them.
I mean no, I get it because I Ifeel the same way when it comes
to my niece and Damn, they'regoing to grow up to have a
fucked up life and I know one ofthem is going to come like Theo
, can I come live with you?
No, like why?

(58:59):
Because I don't like it here.
They've been treating me well,all right, well Fine, but you're
going to live in the shack.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
What the French Be like.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Didi, you got to go go we have, we have another, we
have to move you out of them.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Well, dude, that's my .
We have to move you out of theshed.
We're upgrading for a youngermodel, I'll be like story of my
life.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
No, I'm just kidding you know I know you're halfway
to 50 but like, are yougenuinely happy for your 50th
coming up, or because I know my40s are coming up and I'm just
like you?

Speaker 2 (59:38):
know what I'm?
I'm not bothered.
No, I thought I would be.
I thought it'd be like oh mygod we'll have to save that for
another podcast.
You know I'm like what, but I'mnot bothered we'll save that
for shenanigans.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Absolutely, here we go, all right.
Well, that's the end of ourpodcast.
Thank you so much for tuninginto the Mature Mischief podcast
.
This has been Freaky Friday.
I am your host, daddy J.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
And I am your co-host , Delicious D.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Thank you for tuning in Until we meet again.
And the moral of the story ishashtag find your finding in a
relationship Communication.
I know that's a big ass hashtag.
So hashtag, don't rush thishashtag.
So hashtag, don't rush damnhashtag.
The fuck are y'all doing?
Hashtag women are you, are youokay, taking your vitamins?

(01:00:22):
Are you, are you eating?

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
a piece of cheese how's your vagina?

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
that's gotta take a beating man.
Damn, that's a lot of big headsgoing through you shit and they
think we're the weaker species.
I never said y'all were weakand we need to save that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
I said they, so you know what?

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
that's gonna be a Monday topic.
So alright, talk to y'all later.
Love y'all, bye, ciao.