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Electricity crackles through this episode as we dive deep into the world of electro play and the essential role of consent in BDSM relationships. What starts as a hilarious account of shocking each other with electrical toys quickly transforms into a thoughtful exploration of boundaries, communication, and respect.

Ever wondered what it feels like when electrical currents dance across your skin? We share candid experiences with various electro play devices, from handheld conductors to specialized tools that target sensitive areas. The conversation explores how different body parts react to stimulation, with moments of humor (like accidentally shocking someone's forehead) balanced with practical safety advice for those curious about this form of play.

Beyond the physical aspects, we examine the complex dynamics of consent in both BDSM contexts and everyday interactions. From formal contracts that outline specific boundaries to the more nuanced challenge of respecting a partner's changing comfort levels, consent emerges as the cornerstone of healthy connection. The discussion becomes particularly revealing when addressing relationships where effort isn't reciprocated – when you're giving 99% and receiving minimal investment in return.

The episode also touches on navigating relationships with neurodivergent partners, particularly those who may have sensory processing differences that affect their comfort with physical touch. These experiences highlight the importance of communication, understanding, and sometimes recognizing when a connection isn't serving both parties equally.

Ready to explore the electrifying world of consent-based play? Listen now to gain insights that might just transform how you approach intimacy, communication, and boundaries in your own relationships.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
what's up, gremlins?
Welcome back to another podcast.
My name is daddy j.
I hope everyone is doing it anddoing it well.
You know the drill.
This is the mature mischiefpodcast, dd.

(00:20):
Oh my god, can you believe it?
It's freaky friday, holy shit.
Ah, this is gonna be so.
We, we did what we did.
We talked about the contractslast time because that's what we
did then we had master cat onhere twice previously correct.
It was great.
It was a lot of fun so what'sthe topic?

(00:40):
uh, you know what let's um,let's talk about consent.
Consent, I think it is going tobe the main thing that we want
to talk about.
I think anybody who's talkedabout anything that's freaky and
we were talking about ityesterday when not yesterday,
but for Wednesday we talkedabout how people would go to the
bar and touch and you know kindof bullshit, because you know
they were drinking and whatnotright.

(01:02):
So I figured, why not let's talkabout consent, because I mean
it's not gonna.
I mean, consent can be verysimple and straight up to the
podcast, like to the point.
Ask consent, like literally why?
Why are you?
Did I give you permission to doso?
Like don't do that, stop don't.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
But in you I digress like how you just totally went
on your own there.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
That was awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Well, I know it, you know it, the whole world fucking
knows it.
I like saying my name twice.
I am your host, daddy J.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
And I am your co-host , Delicious D.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yo, delicious D.
What it do, baby girl, how youdoing Wonderful to you.
What it do, baby girl, how youdoing.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Let's get kinky, let's get freaky.
Well, not with you, but youknow.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, I don't want to say with the gremlins either.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
That sounds weird.
I wouldn't mind sleeping withone of the gremlins if they were
of age.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Of course you would 21 and up preferably.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Desperate times cause for desperate measures.
Man Shit.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Like there's such desperation at all like I.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Like I'm desperate, like I.
I haven't had dick in 10minutes.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
That's hilarious, considering we're two minutes in
I know like wait he just had it10 minutes eight minutes ago, I
don't know.
I looked at him.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
He was like ah, I'm done I wouldn't know.
I was just sitting here at themic minding my own business I
was telling, uh, I was tellingstyler, it's like can you
imagine I was like y'all if youor dd were to come over and I
had my own house right and I hadthe boys and they were like
staying here and they werechilling cleaning and they were
in their jock straps or whatnot.

(02:45):
And y'all show up justliterally, just like right, and
then I come in and I'm likeprobably in my jock strap or
leather or whatnot, and I'm justopening the door like, uh, hey,
like is everything okay, my bad.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Are we interrupting?

Speaker 1 (03:01):
like I told him.
It's like can you imagineyou're just having a bad day and
you need to talk about it?
But I'm just like there.
I'm just like hey, he goes.
You know what, Maybe this is abad time.
No, it's not a bad time.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Come on in, we'll talk.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
It's not what you, you know what.
It's not the worst thing you'veseen me in.
Come eyes.
I'd be like am I interrupting,yes or no?
No, okay, cool, not really justmaking sure.
I'd be like, well, you're justgonna have to walk with me
because I have to go to thedungeon here in a bit and I
gotta go check on somebody.
So you're willing to walk withme or stay here?
So okay, that's cool like, belike, okay, just you're gonna

(03:39):
just hear the whole screaming inthe background.
What the fuck yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
about that I'm not even going to be surprised.
I'm gonna be like what are youdoing to him?

Speaker 1 (03:51):
electroplay.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Speaking of electroplay I love how it just
triggered that yeah, well,because uh, when's uh tuesday?

Speaker 1 (04:01):
uh, pup rad came over uh and we got to talk and
whatnot or whatever, and Ihaven't seen him in a good
minute.
He's like, well, I can comeover after work or whatnot.
I'm like, yeah, sure, go aheadand come over, I'm working on
you know shirts and whatnot orwhatever.
So, uh, he brought he bought ithis own electric cool, it's

(04:23):
actually way better than mineand yeah, he bought it for like
about 140 for what I spent itfor.
But he came with more stuff,came with a fucking hard case.
Okay, yeah, mine didn't comewith the hard case.
I'm like, oh, I need to go tothese events here because I
don't know.
But it was really cool becausehe had one where you had the

(04:43):
clip, so you saw the one, right,it's like it.
It's like it's the handle orwhatnot.
Well, this one gets clipped toyour hip and you become the
inductor of electricity so youcan touch yourself and no
electricity will come out.
But the moment I touched himand it was on low setting, but,
bitch, I got scared because whenI put my hands on him, I'm

(05:08):
wearing this and I'm wearing myrings.
All of it shocks the fuck outof me.
So I freak out a little bit ina bit of a panic and I'm just
like, ah, shit, so I'm takingoff my rings and everything and
whatnot.
I was like, wow, he goes, dude,so I'm trying to go on.
I was like I'm so scared.
I was like no and what does thismotherfucker do?

(05:29):
He turns around and it justshocks me.
I'm like no, touchy, no touchyum but yeah, no, I actually did
like his.
I need to get past that, thatfeeling, because your fingertips
are very sensitive.
Yes, right, they're very.
You can feel it or whatnot.
But he had a knife that you canput on and then it'll shock,

(05:54):
it'll go through the electricalcurrents and it was a lot of fun
.
Apparently, I got him I'm justlike he was right there with his
nipple and it fucking zappedhis nipple, she's like because
why was that so painful?
I was like you know what?
That's kind of shocking,considering you like your

(06:15):
nipples to be zapped.
But you can feel the electricalcurrency through your hand,
like it feels.
It feels like how your arm isasleep, like on it.
But that's how it feels whenyou're going to it, like you can
kind of feel the pushback alittle bit of the electricity,
and it's just like you're kindof doing it and he had the wire

(06:35):
or whatnot that I was able toturn on and kind of get him to
go and whatnot.
It was, uh, your back's hurtingyou.
Your back's hurting you.
Yeah, it's a chair, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (06:42):
No, I'm not even leaning back in the chair.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
No, it's just me.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I'm telling you I'm tired, that's all Okay.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
So it was very interesting because I mean I
love electro play, I really do.
But that kind of like almostfreaked me out because I wasn't.
And can he adjust?

Speaker 2 (07:00):
the intensity of the setting that's the lowest
setting and it still shocked youpretty good.
Fuck, yes, crazy yeah, I wasjust like.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Oh, I was like that's cool, it's kind of like you
know how, like you touchsomething and it just shocks the
tip of your finger, it was kindof like that but everywhere
everywhere.
I'm just like, but I wasshocking him and everything, and
he just like turned around.
He just like hey, daddy I'mjust oh you bitch.
So I got his.
I was like, let me see yourhand.

(07:29):
So I got him on his palm of hishand and she's like, ah.
So I got him on the side of hisneck and, man, when I got him
on the neck he just fell.
So we're just having fun withelectricity at this point like
kids yeah, literally like kids.
It was well.
I was trying to get him in thebottom of his foot.

(07:51):
He's backed up his ass and gotme right in the fucking forehead
.
I was like I mean not like, ohmy god like I was just like, oh,

(08:13):
that fucking hurts, so fuckingbad dude.
So we had so much fun withelectricity we really did.
I'm not even gonna fucking lie.
I had a.
I had a good time, but hebrought it over and that like I
was like that was actuallypretty fun.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
I was like I need to get over my fear because you,
you that really kind of like Iwasn't expecting it to be so
intense nothing like that can umtrigger your uh epilepsy no,
okay, but you know what they?

Speaker 1 (08:44):
have electrical gloves that I can actually wear.
So it does, it protects my hand, so it doesn't hurt as much.
So they do have the gloves.
I can do that.
That's not an issue.
I probably would go do thatbecause that's, I love my hands.
I really do, because I use myhands a lot.
Um, but no, it doesn't affect my, I was just curious, yeah I
figured it would too, but thatwas kind of one of my concerns.
But when, uh, master cat didthe electro play on me now you

(09:07):
know this is going to turn intoelectro play and consent at the
same time, so just fyi.
So it was um, it was a lot offun, it was uh, it was different
, it really was different, uhdifferent because you were on
the receiving end of the electroplay?
yeah, because I wasn't well,because he had that, you know,
the um spear shoot type thingthat had to like the little

(09:27):
needles and everything wasaround oh, yes, the spur.
I guess it was like that.
Well, same thing, you can holdon to that and then shock
somebody ah.
So that shit can be very intense, because it really can be.
And yeah, I can't explain likehow the electrical currencies
work.
When that's on my hip, likeit's, it comes like right into

(09:47):
the belt loop, like right here,like a little clip on, kind of
like a walkie talkie almost.
So you have that.
Then you have the electroelectricity on there and then
you're just kind of like havingso much fun, but his ass hit my
forehead and that's hilarious itwas.
It was fucking hilarious, but itfeels like I can still feel it,

(10:09):
which is funny.
So, oh, and then, reallyquickly, we got a headbands for
the mature mischief podcast.
Just just two, just one for me,one for Didi.
So it was actually pretty cool,I liked.
I just wish they were a littlebit better, but not bad for
seven bucks each.
Yeah, so that was it, but anylittle plug in.
I just wish they were a littlebit better, but not bad for
seven bucks each.
Yeah, so that was it, butanyway, a little plug in.

(10:31):
It was so much fun.
I accidentally got him on thecheek with the knife, because
it's a plastic one though, buthow the electricity goes through
it, it's actually pretty fun.
He's like oh, that hurt, I'mjust like whatever, but the neck
part just fucking took me out.
It was just fucking.
He just fell just like.
That's fucking hilarious.

(10:51):
And he was sitting on theworkout ball too, as well.
When I'm doing everything.
He's like I was just like, ifyou fall on me, why we're
getting, we're gonna have someserious issues because we're
gonna be fucking retarded andshit and you're really gonna go
full whitey this is my epicseizure.

(11:17):
I'll be forever my stick.
It was a lot of fun.
We had it.
I think we had a blast with itand I would 10 out of 10 would
you say it was electrifying.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
He seemed very shocked.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
He seemed very shocked.
It was crazy, I was it wascrazy that was like the lamest
dad joke.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
You weren't supposed to just keep it going.
That was stupid on my part.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
That was awesome, though I don't know he seemed
shocked he he was, but he hadsome good moves.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
He was dancing working at the car until he fell
, but yeah, that shit wasfucking hilarious.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
That that was fucking hilarious oh shit you good you
know what it is.
I think I need to go talk tomaster cat and talk about more
about electro play with likewhere, where are the best spots
to?

Speaker 2 (12:21):
be able to do it.
So yeah, because you guys justexperiment, let's try here,
let's try here, let's try Igotta like right back to where
his kidneys are, like right herejust a little notch.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
It wasn't hard, but it was just a little, because
there's some nerves that areback there.
Just just.
You're just like oh wait, whatwas that sound again?
Slow motion do a slow motionfor me.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
I would love to.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
I love that.
I know I like doing the slowmotion for you.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
No, there has not been a person that hasn't, and I
love that In all the years thatI've done that I'm gonna start
doing that to my friends forwhatever reason, and it's crazy
because they're just like oh mygod, like why did I do that yeah
?

Speaker 1 (13:14):
I'm just enjoying the show it's fucking hilarious and
, uh, what was it?
It was just.
It was just so much fun becausethey have electro play for
other stuff too as well, becausethey have.
They have for other stuff tooas well, because they have.
They have plugs for your buttthat you can put up there.
But they also electro.
They're very I don't want tosay they're not.
They can be very light or verystimulating for a lot of people

(13:36):
who, like that, now remember youhave body fluids inside of you
still, but what, however, theyfigured out the whole thing.
It's pretty fucking like.
They even have the violet one.
The one's a little vibrates,that kind of has a little thing
on there.
They even have one that alsoelectrocutes too as well.
I've seen, I've seen, I feltthe, the intensity on that one.

(13:56):
I'm just like, oh shit, likewhat they say yeah, put on my
balls, and I did.
I remember what boy he had it.
I'm just like, yeah, put itthere.
He goes.
Yeah, turn it up and put it,put it on the right on my take.
Well, okay do you know how liketom and jerry were when tom
would come up behind, jerrywould come behind tom and like,

(14:17):
poke him and then he would flyup.
Yeah, that was kind of the samereaction Because he was laying
down.
He was like yeah.
I want to feel this electricity.
Oh, he felt it.
I've never seen a man fly sohigh.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
That is awesome.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
He took flight.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
That is awesome Experimentation with the human
body.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
It's fun.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
It's fun.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
It's all fun and games until your twigs and
berries get the like.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
The end of the shock until your taint gets shocked
it's so funny to see becauseit's I can imagine dude, I can,
and then naked, like that'shilarious it's one of those
things.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
It's like it's kind of hard to sit.
You can't sit down on anythingbecause now it will conduce it
would yeah, it would conducewith you, because I try sitting
on the bed and I felt theelectricity come up my ass.
I'm just like no chale dudecrazy.
Yeah, so it's one of thosethings like either they're gonna
have to stay standing up or sitsomewhere.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
It's crazy can you sit on, maybe like rubber, like
a rubber mat probably okay, Icould like it would be safer
uh-huh because he said he uh,one of his boys, or one of the
boys that he talks to, one ofthe pups has a chair.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
And on the chair.
It has metal.
And if you're the conductor andyou go and touch somebody,
guess what happens it'samplified.
It's amplified.
Chatter, bro, it's fun.
Can you imagine with the chairthat I have here?
That's all metal.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
I just bend the back, you have a whole chair burn on
your body, like what happened.
I was sitting on a chair.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
And.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
The bestie decided to play a stupid ass prank With
his electro play shit.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, I was playing, I was being stupid, that's what
I said.
It's all fun and games untilsomeone gets hurt.
But of course we we didn't likeamplify it, like to see how the
intensity and max would feel.
We literally took it step bystep, like we did at the lowest

(16:41):
setting.
We know that was yeah, wecranked it up just a little bit
more, I think we got to, but youwere safe.
Yeah, we were like the mainthing.
The main thing you want tothink of, as as with the electro
play, is that it can be veryintensified, like it, depending
on what it is or what you'reholding, it can intensify
everything the way it is, likeit's just how it is, but it's

(17:03):
just, this is how it, that'spretty much how the how,
everything pretty much flows,but it's fine, because, yeah,
because it's a it's I don't know, I can't explain it it's
exhilarating flows yeah, it'svery exhilarating.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
It's very fun um I get the exhilarating part yeah,
it really is because when we hadgone to the shop and the girl
had tried it on our arm, likelike imagining that anywhere
else, I'm just kind of like,yeah, I get it.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah, yeah, like it's , it's stimulating can you
imagine if you have nipplepiercings?
They would fly off.
I don't know.
I I don't know if it would bethe same intensity, though,
because I've never had anybodythat?

Speaker 2 (17:44):
That's a good question.
So people have body jewelry.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
How does that feel?
Well, here's the thing, becausehe had body jewelry, but on the
necklace portion that he hadthere's only one metal back here
in the back, so he didn't feelanything on there when I hit his
body too on there.
But I think if it's all likejewel, like if it's on there, I
want to know how like yeah,Cause I wonder like would people

(18:09):
feel it wherever they havepiercings?
Well, I would assume so, becausehere's the thing when Kat was
playing with Rad on the sling,we would feel the electricity.
Now the sling has metal allaround it, including chains.
I've actually touched the metalwhile Kat's zapping him and the
electricity will conduct and gothrough the entire thing swing

(18:32):
and I felt it and I went likethis I'm like holy shit.
So if you have body jewelry,you're going to feel it more
intensely in those places.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, because, remember, electricity flows.
Your body already haselectricity going through
because you have what nerves,nerve systems right, so it can
pretty much go.
So you're just pretty much onthat.
If you can find the right nerveon the body and you know your
pressure points pretty well, youcan make a man scream and dance
all you want.

(19:03):
Just be careful with yourforehead careful with that ass
dude, he's got a fucking fat ass.
I forgot.
It's rad, I'm like shit that'shilarious, that boy's got more
fucking ass than I do.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
I just think it's funny because you were busy
trying to shock him and then, hejust naturally shocks you.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Well, because I was shocking him.
And then when I did it hiswhole ass went left and I'm just
glad it was my forehead and notmy eye, Because that shit would
have.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
That's like some funny ass instant karma shit.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
It really was.
It really was.
It was so fucking hilarious.
Lectra play is fun.
It really was.
It really was.
It was so fucking hilarious.
Electro play is fun it reallyis.
You just need to be very, verysafe, because if you have that
much electricity coming outthrough your entire body, then
you got to be careful with youreyes, your face.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Naturally.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
If someone wants to touch you in your eyeballs and
just be a dick that way, then ohgod, yeah, we're gonna have
fucking major issues right.
So bitch, you're telling me,but there's some people who
really love the intensity of it.
Can you imagine just?

Speaker 2 (20:18):
picturing somebody's like.
You've got somebody completelynaked in front of you and that's
what you want to be a douchebagabout.
I'm going to touch theireyeballs what?

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I mean, can you imagine, like how I mean it's
pleasurable, it really is.
But can you imagine just havingthat and someone breaks into
your house and you just likewe're going to have fun, like
you just grab their ankles andjust and they're just like
they're breaking all their ears.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Like what the hell is that?
They just see the wand comingat them in the dark.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
It's all pink and purple glowing can you imagine
just seeing me in the dark andjust I turn up the intensity.
I'm just amazed, man, this isgonna fucking shock the shit out
of me, because Kat literallyhas, okay, you know how, those
on top of those, they have theelectricity and it's all metal
right.
So they let the electric, thepower lines, right.

(21:10):
Oh, yes yeah, so they are all.
They're really really big.
Have you seen one in your hands?
They're fucking huge.
Cat has one, a cable, a cable.
He has an electrical cable.
He puts that on, he turns it on, it turns on and it conducts
electricity.
He will use it on the boys wholove, who are paint sluts and

(21:31):
use it.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
It reminds me of a what's his face?

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, from Fireman.
What's his name?
I don't know, but I know whatyou're talking about.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Damn it, it's going to bug the crap out of me.
Oh my.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
God the wrestler.
What's his name?

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, whatever, whatever.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
It's going to whatever.
Whatever it's gonna come backto you, it's gonna bug the shit
out of me, but but anywho, yeah,it's an actual cable and I
think it's about maybe a foot.
No, it's like two feet long.
It's pretty.
It's a fucking hefty cable.
That's insane.
Yeah, it's.
It's two feet long and itdoesn't seem like a lot, though,
but get your ruler out.
That's 12 inches.
12 inches, two feet is aboutthis long.

(22:15):
Yeah, just like that.
Yep, I saw it.
I'm just like that looksdangerous.
I don't know if he uses it forthe electrical current or if he
uses it for like spanking, buthe has one.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
I'm just like bro.
I'm assuming it would be forspanking.
I'm going to say I'm gonnaassume so, but I'll ask him on
thursday because an electriccable like that that would hold
an insanely dangerous amount ofelectricity for a human being.
Hence why they're coded the waythey are and the people who go
up there touch them can't touchthem with bare hands they have
special gloves for it exactly,so I'm assuming it's probably

(22:49):
just for spanking.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
If I have one of those and someone broke into my
house and that's what you seecoming at you, can you imagine
just bringing it out and justturning it on and you just hear.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, you're dead.
You're like, hi, that's thelast thing you're ever going to
see Ever, ever.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Hello, 911.
What's your emergency?
Someone broke in my house and Ishocked the shit out of them.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Can you come get them please?
Someone broke in my house andthey touched this huge-ass cable
.
I don't even know how.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
I don't even know where they got it from.
They seem shook, they'reshocked.
He was stunned.
He still stunned, silence.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
He was stunned.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
He still stunned silence.
It was electrifying to watch,if you smell.
Oh, my God what the His skin isburning.
What the what the fuck is that.
Did you?

Speaker 2 (23:41):
shit yourself, ew.
Why does it smell cooked?

Speaker 1 (23:48):
See, now my sadist side is just like I wonder how
much more I can do with this.
Of course it is.
What else can I do?
Because it's one of thosethings that seems like fun.
But also I gotta be careful,because if a dog sneaks in and
wants a lick and just like itsounds really bad, by the way

(24:11):
that is really totallyaccidental like that's yeah.
Dogs aren't involved well,because sometimes my dogs would
like to sneak in and they'llstay quiet underneath the bed
for a while.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
No, I know I know it just sounded weird to the people
who don't know this, but likewhat do you mean?
The dog comes in and wants totake a lick, like that's not
what we know.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
No, no, no, like that , but my dogs will sneak in and
chill and I wouldn't even knowuntil we get to a whole scene.
And then I just see, becausethey're all watching you well,
because I've seen it happen I'mgetting plowed in and I'm on the
bed and I just hear dogs tagscome in and it's my chihuahua
laying right next to me wantingto cuddle up.
I'm just like bro, what are youdoing?
And just like my little dog,just all cuddle up next to me.

(24:52):
Looking at the other guy going.
This is fucking weird, I know,can you just stop for a moment?
Not awkward at all?
No, not at all.
Not fucking at all, fucking heydude, oh my god, I that little
ch well, was fucking weird, he'sweird so what are you guys

(25:13):
doing?
yeah, literally, because I knowyou haven't laid down at all
whatsoever on none of thecouches or anything.
But if you lay down and youhave a pillow, he'll come and
lay down and he's put his headin pillow.
He looks like a human, likehe'll cuddle your arm and he'll
snuggle right up.
I remember me and the roommatewe were having fun because he

(25:34):
let Tigger out but Mumu kind of,I guess, stayed because I don't
know he thought Mumu went tooas well.
And we're having fun and I'mfucking he's clapping my ass
cheeks.
And then I just see Mumu comeby and he's just like laying
down right next to me.
I'm just like bro, where didyou come from?

Speaker 2 (25:52):
It's like no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
No, no, no, no why are you cuddling?

Speaker 2 (25:54):
This is just weird.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, I was just like bro it's turning me off.
I'm getting soft.
I know I can feel you inside me.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Can you get it out?
Can you or the dog, both, bothat this point, stop, stop.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
I'm just like shit, but it's just so much fun.
If you haven't, I do recommendif you know an expert who knows
their shit about electro play,check it out.
It's a lot of fun.
I had 10 out of 10 wouldrecommend it.
Period it sounds scary.
It really a lot of fun.
I had 10 out of 10.
Would recommend it.
Period it's a if sounds scary,it really is, but it's not until

(26:32):
you can kind of get the use tothe feel of the electrical play.
I think that's just pretty muchit.
But for your body to feel thatthe electrical currency of your
body, it feels weird.
I think it just kind of feelsweird, even on my hands, because
you know you got a lot ofsensitivities on the thing and
it's just so funny because Ijust like I see him.

(26:53):
I was like, let me see your hand, so I'll just get like the
pinky or the tips.
He's like, ah, ah.
I was like nah, because when hetouched me I was like let me
see your hand, that was the onething.
And I got him.
Him like on the tip of his feet.
He's like, ah, because I,that's what you get for touching
me, that's what you get fortouching me.
It's like mother fucker, damnyou.

(27:14):
But it was fun.
It was fun, I liked it, Ienjoyed it.
Now, consent so we're here, nowwe're going to talk about
consent.
Consent is like one of the 100things that you need to have
right consent for everything, nomatter what it is, and then
that's kind of like one of themost important things I'll
actually have on it, becauseanytime period, before you even
start a period.

(27:35):
Yes, before you start a scenewith anything, you have to
consent to every little thing.
And I think this is where itbecomes very tricky, because I'm
not saying that consent'stricky, because it's not, though
, but depending on your,depending on what you're doing,
because some people, they, youcan consent to having sex, and

(27:56):
then, right after sex, it's justlike when you're done, it's
just like stop, like, and you'restill going.
It's just like they've alreadytold you no like, stop that's.
That's kind of like the hardpart, because you've already
consented to something, toalready doing and you're having
to do it, her having it.
And then, all of a sudden, inthe middle of everything, it's
just like.
This is like really cut it.

(28:16):
That's going to make the hardpart.
That's when people are likewait, how's that hard?
Because it's like you're in themiddle of doing something,
you're having fun, you're havinga grand time.
It's like two people justhaving fun and then fun.
You're having a grand time.
It's like two people justhaving fun and then all of a
sudden, they just don't feelcomfortable or whatever it is,
and I'm just like stop.
Like you know, I don't know ifI want to consent to this

(28:37):
anymore.
I'm just like what?
Like what?
What do you?
What do you mean?
Like it kind of throws me off alittle bit.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Right, because it's just naturally, I'm over here in
my head like well, for what Imean?
Granted, granted.
You feel uncomfortable, yes,but my thing is like how, if
you've already got to this point, you weren't comfortable the
first half, or did you just notsay something Like what?

Speaker 1 (28:58):
What do you mean?
This is why it's so hard.
It's not so hard in the BDSM,but this is why it's so crucial
to have contracts to be able todo these things, because in the
contracts they're set there fora reason, because you're
agreeing to it.
You're like, okay, cool, and westick because the limitations
are set for there.
You know, even one of the oneslike okay, what if you wanted to

(29:19):
do this?
Might be interested on it orwhatnot.
And then you try it.
One time you're just like notmy thing anymore.
Right now that's not on thetable as options right so that
becomes a thing where you'rejust like nope, not at all.
Um, I have a list of thingsthat my boys don't like and I
always try to keep it with me,or I'll try to keep it up here
as much as if I can remember it,um, but most of the time I

(29:41):
always do remember it.
Like rad, he does not likebeing tickled, he hates being
tickled.
Occasionally I catch myselfgoing you know, tickling him
just a little bit.
Yeah, he's like, no, like, okay.
Okay, the one thing that I willsay that I do like that he
hates.
I'm just like we're we're nottaking that away and he's just
like but why?
It's a cold drink to the back?

(30:02):
Oh, yeah, it's a cold drink tothe back.
It's one of those things.
I'm just like come here.
No, he'll still come by.
And you just say fine, I waslike I'm just kidding.
Come here and my hands arealready cold.
So he's like ah, your hands arecold.
I said I wouldn't do the drink.
You never said anything aboutmy hands, a loophole.

(30:24):
He's like fuck damn, you'reright.
So it's a lot of fun, but we Imean reenrad have a good.
You know strong communicationand what we talk about and
whatnot.
We know limitations and we know, like, what, what we uh do and
what is what's allowed andwhat's not allowed.
You know, period.
Um, he does ask permission fora lot of things to get consent

(30:47):
on, because consent can just bebased on very everything like,
basically, an outfit to wear,like if I, if I see an outfit
right and I don't agree with it.
I'm just like, no, I'm just not,I'm not feeling yeah what
you're, what you're wearing andif you're going out like that to
represent me and you, you'renot doing it yeah you know what
I mean and I always want to showoff his, like his ass, like his

(31:09):
ass is definitely a great assetof his and his uh tool as well.
It's one of those, are those twogreat assets.
I'm like bro, show it off, like, have fun, like go do what you
need to go do.
So I'm always I, I always tryto encourage him or whatnot, and
I've always tried to appraisethem, I try to praise them as

(31:30):
much as I possibly can, becauseI know that's that's something
you want to hear all the time.
Right, everyone likes a goodpraise.
Yeah, so occasionally, if I'mupset with him I've never I've
never yelled at him at allperiod.
A lot of the times in theconversations we're having and
he'll tell me certain things atthe last minute, I'm just like I

(31:55):
was like why?
Because I don't know and hegets very he and it's just, it's
like talking to a kid, almostlike because he does have the
mindset where I don't know what.
A lot of people don't realizethat, but age regression is an
actual thing for a lot of people.
I can kind of see that in him alittle bit.
So I have to be very carefulhow I talk to him, uh, whatnot
and it's always how I'm talking,to like how I'm talking to you

(32:17):
right now yeahum, but yeah, it's just, uh,
consent.
It's just one of those thingsthat, because we talk about a
lot of the stuff, when heforgets to tell me, I'm just
like, oh yeah, what should yourpunishment be?
I don't know.
I was like I'll take thispaintings, yeah, but you would

(32:38):
enjoy that a lot more than medoing something else to you.
So what is it going to be?
It's like, because he can doimpact, but he's not a pain slut
.
He is not a pain slut in theslightest.
He can take a spanking, but ifI go ham on that ass, that's it,

(33:00):
we're done, we can, but in thecontract it says if it's
spanking, he has to count themout.
So, and I do tell him, I waslike pick your weapon, like what
is it gonna be?
Because if it's one that I pick, we're gonna go something with
a more thud to it.
So it's, it's one of thosethings like you have to consent

(33:22):
to a lot of things.
And it's crazy, though, becausethere's one play that's cnc
consent, non-consent which isvery tricky on its own, because
it's kind of like I'll give youan example when me and cat, when
we talk, and when we say we'replaying, we're like like no, I'm
not gonna do it.
No, I'm not.
It's like you're, that's kindof that.

(33:42):
The whole cnc play like you're,like you're fighting it but
you're also being playful with,but you're also not consenting
to it at all whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
But it's actually really hot at the same time.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
So it's kind of like within that place and whatnot.
Cnc I'm not going to go into itat all whatsoever because it's
not something I'm very familiarwith and I can't educate you on
that at all whatsoever.
There is one who does educateit very well, who is on tiktok
in a very kinky community.
I think it's moxie rose.
I want to say her name is she'sworks for uh uh pierre's uh uh

(34:19):
fashion.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
They do clothing for coin stars the one that's got
the blonde hair and the littleblack, the cute little black cat
eye.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah, she's cool she's cool, so she's she does
have videos out there for uh,that as well.
She kind of goes into it.
She's very, very she's cool, soshe does have videos out there
for that as well.
She kind of goes into it.
She's very, very good at a lotof it, too, as well.
I also learned it from alsoRepairman, too, as well 69, 67
or something like that.
He's one that I found too aswell, who's really really good
at it.

(34:53):
But a lot of these kink culturesthat tend to do this, this is
why it's kind of hard to talkabout a lot of king culture
because people want to fly, wewant to get, they want to flag
it.
Oh, it's too, it's too vulgar,it's too much.
I'm like, really, is it though?
I don't know, I don't think so,um, but yeah, any thoughts?

Speaker 2 (35:00):
no, no, no.
I was gonna ask to go to gointo it because I know we
touched on it before, but youdidn't dive into it no, it's
hard to die you just youanswered before I even got to
ask, because you said I'm notgoing to educate you guys
because I'm not educated on it.
So I was like okay, cool, don'tworry about it I'm not educated
.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
I I mean like 100, like one honest like.
If I don't know something I'mnot educated in, I'll give you
the fucking sources.
Yeah, fetlifecom, like that'seven another thing too as well,
to actually go and check out.
Now I will say this if you'regoing on fetlifecom to figure
out what that is and what it'sall about, yeah, there is a lot
of hardcore shit on there aswell, but it's also not a dating

(35:49):
site.
It's basically you're there tolook for your doms.
A lot of our portfolios andprofiles are on there, and even
what I do, but my name isdesigned to bring an entire name
.
So anytime I have like shitthat's open down there, I'm
always in a pup hood everysingle time.
You'll never catch my real faceon anything.
Yes, I go by, daddy j.
Yes, it's what I do, but you'llnever catch my real face on
anything.
Yes, I go by, daddy J.
Yes, it's what I do, but you'llnever see my face on anything,

(36:13):
period, because I'm learningthat if you want to keep where
you're at, you cannot be doingshit like that.
But anyhow, I digress.
But even when you're like at abar, like when we talked about
the last podcast with the wholepartying and everything.
Yeah, you need to have consent.
That's a fucking real.
People will fucking throw punch.

(36:34):
You now, like you just can't.
It's um and I don't see howconsent is something that you
use like across the board inlife period period and it's kind
of hard because I know thatthose who know me I'm very cool
and very chilled about beingtouched like I'm not.
I'm not an asshole yeah if youtouch me without permission or

(36:56):
without consent, I'm just likewhy, or?
And I'll give you a look, likereally seriously, type of look.
But if it's somebody I know andit kind of not annoys me, it
just kind of like irks me just abit, because it's like when
someone comes by and they smackyour ass really quickly and they
walk, I'm just like who in thefuck it was?
And they, and then they look atme.
I'm just like don't do that.

(37:17):
Don't don't do that, becausenot only have you spanked my ass
and I'm just like you walkedaway.
Now you're gonna have to go getme a drink, like bitch.
I did not consent to that, butit's kind of.
It's like it's um, it's weird,because people are just like, oh
, it's jess, we can go and touch.
I'm just like, yeah, but I'mstill gonna punch you in the

(37:39):
throat if you still touch mewithout asking.
Like there's one dom I won'tcall him out, uh, but if he's
listening to this and you knowwho you are, just listen and
listen.
Well, all of you.
There's one dom that and thekinky night.
Uh, he was touching me, right,he?
And he goes.

(38:01):
Oh shit, I shouldn't have askedpermission and I looked at him
straight in the face and saidI've known you for how long
already.
I don't ever recall, ever, sayno to you and you just touched
me just by doing it, because Idon't know how people are
feeling that day.
But why do you do it first andthen say next, like that is not,
like that's not how this works,that's not how any of this

(38:23):
works.
You know what I mean.
But because I know him verywell and I called him out on it,
he's just like goes well, callme out, why don't you?
I'll say, look, it is what itis.
At the end of the day, like Iget it.
You know what I mean.
I've known you for a very longtime.
It's I'm, I'm allowing you.
If I haven't burned a bridgewith you and I say you know,

(38:43):
then no means no.
You know what I mean.
So I'm not gonna go and touchsomebody now.
Occasionally, when I'm withother friends and I'm touching,
I was like do you mind if Itouch you?
Sometimes I forget, becauseit's kind of like a mutual touch
type thing, right, uh, it canhappen and mistakes are bound to
happen or whatnot, butdepending on who the person is,
you know, respectfully, hey, I'mjust not in the mood to be

(39:05):
touched, like, okay, cool, Idon't know, it's not a problem.
Same thing with my boys.
I know that I sometimes I gettouch deprived and one of my
boys will be like I just don'twant to be touched or anything
like that.
I'm just like then why are wehanging out like because I'm I'm
like, hey, it's whatever it's I, I rather hang out with my boys
to be touched and cuddle and tobe held, to actually be

(39:28):
physical, to be physical.
Then you tell me we're hangingout oh, I don't want to be
touched.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Then I'm just like hanging out and we're just going
to be.
You're going to be over thereand I'm going to be way over
here, Okay.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, basically, but one of them is not very.
See, rad is very PDA, he loveshis PDA, he doesn't mind holding
my hand, he doesn't mind havingfun, he and I'm.
I'm all for it because I lovethe attention when we go out
into public.
I think the only thing that Ipretty much draw most lines is
like if there's kids.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
you know what I mean, because yeah, I don't want to
make kids.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Even in general, yeah , even in general just in
general, even when straightpeople, I'm just like really
they're kids, like why are youdoing that?
Oh, we're straight, I'm likeyeah, it doesn't matter, you're
being a little excessive, yeahbut if I did it in front of your
kids with that, would that makeit right?

Speaker 2 (40:12):
exactly.
You know exactly time and place, man.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Time and place uh, one of the other pops, uh,
doesn't like period.
So if we're hanging out inpublic, I can't hold them, I
can't touch them.
I occasionally I will go andtouch them once in a while, but
I keep my distance.
He's like well, why are youkeeping your distance, bitch?
You don't want me to touch you,so what do you want?

(40:36):
We can hang out in public butwhat do you want from?
me.
You need to make up your mind.
Either I get to hold your hand,hug you, cuddle you, or yes or
no, consent or not?
But if it's not going to be thething, it's just like.
I even told him.
It's just like why are youworried about what people think
of who you are?

(40:57):
You know what I mean?
It doesn't matter.
Like I get it where, yeah,we're in a time period.
Yeah, it's getting harder andharder for you to love on your
own partner, the same sex andeverything.
It's getting harder to do that.
But if you're worried thatbecause I'm older than you are
and you haven't, and it feelsweird because I even told him
it's like you can come live withus why you do what you do you

(41:18):
need to do, if it saves youmoney from having to stay in
college dorms or whatnot,because yeah, but it just.
I don't have to say explain tomy dad why I'm talking to an
older guy.
I'm just like, okay, like whyis that like a bad thing?
Like I'm, I get it.
You're 21, I'm.

(41:38):
I'm like very well, I'm 37.
I'm like 17 years older thanyou are.
No, not even 17 years olderthan you are.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
I'm, don't ask me, it's math bitch, I'm 16 years
older than you are, don't ask me.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
It's math bitch.
I'm 16 years older than you are.
Don't ask me, I'm 16 yearsolder than you are.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
I am not going to count you like that.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
He's 21.
I'm 37.
It's simple 16 years, 16 plus21 is 37.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
I love how you keep going.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
I'm trying to make sure I'm doing the math right,
but anyway, right but anyway.
So you do that, that's fine.
That's fine, I'll do that.
I mean, I get the age, I getthe age gap and I understand it
too as well.
I will tell some of these youngfuckers like, don't get with
somebody if you're not going towant pda at all whatsoever.
If you're, I just can't do itbecause I'm someone who likes

(42:25):
certain people.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
They have preferences .
If your preferences do notmatch or align, like what are
you doing?
Exactly just saying what areyou doing?

Speaker 1 (42:33):
that's why I haven't really like claimed him or made
him a big part of my life.
You know, do what you need todo and and whatnot and whatever.
You ready whenever you need me.
We're like, I'm here for you.
Yeah, he's like well, I canhang out thursday cool beans.
Like we can hang out thursdayif need it be.

(42:55):
It's just kind of hard becauseI like hanging out with him.
He's super sweet, I can talk tohim, he's very open and whatnot
, and I know he's stressed outor whatever.
But occasionally I do have toremind them like, dude, you're
like I'm hanging out and I'msaving my time and day for you
and I'm already sexuallyfrustrated and, knowing that I

(43:17):
can't do anything with youbecause you're feeling a
particular type of way, I haveto be able to respect that
consent because you don't wantto be touched in any way, shape
or form.
I'm enjoying your company, I'mhaving a good time, or whatnot
occasionally I would have to geton his case a little bit,
though it's because it's justlike I'm like you need to calm
down just a bit, because you'refeeling.

(43:37):
I can feel what you're feelingand you not wanting me to kiss
you or whatever it is.
It's kind of hard and and hesaid that he goes, are you okay?
I'm just like, yeah, I justdidn't like the way you said
what you said.
He goes, well, and he, andagain I get autism and whatnot.
I get it.
He was just like well, it'sjust how I am.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
I'm like, yeah, I'm like, bro, I'm gonna tell you
this because it's a sensoryissue for them yeah, it's a
sensory issue which kind ofsucks, because it's hard to not
take it personal, because it'sliterally a moment meant for you
to to be intimate, but it'sjust the way their brain is
wired.
You know what I mean.
And when it's a sensory thing,like, it's like which I get 100

(44:20):
yeah they're not asking for itto be a thing, but it is a thing
, and it's like oh, it really isa thing and you know and I get
it and I have to teach him.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Sometimes this is like look, I'm not autistic in
any way, shape or form.
I was like, yes, in one pointin time I was told this and I
don't feel that way.
I was like and I understand thatyou may come up across
something and whatnot, andpeople may not understand that,
and I'm trying to understand youas much as possible because I'm
respecting our dynamic, I'mrespecting our relationship I

(44:47):
was like but how is it that whenI'm trying to be respectful to
you, you can do it, when not,but you're a lot more of a big
or an asshole?
I was like no, I get it, you'reautistic, but that doesn't stem
to what you're looking for,what you're wanting and what
you're needing.
Because if you can tell me thatyou are doing these things and
going on dates with somebody,having fun with somebody,

(45:15):
somebody.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
What makes them different from them than it is
for me that you can't make timefor that as well?

Speaker 1 (45:17):
yeah, so this tells me, make it feel like it's a
matter of convenience, all of asudden yeah like I'll say is it
a matter of convenience, knowingthat I got you a pup hood and I
was to buy it for you?
So now that you got what youneeded, I'm no longer a thing
for you because, no, not at all.
I'm just like, I'm just haven'tbeen in the mood, or I'm just
not in it.
I'll say but why are you in themood for with the date.

(45:39):
So I was like I've already toldyou I love you, I care for you,
I want to be with you, you aresomebody I can definitely see
myself with, but the guys you goafter are guys who are fucking
built, that I can never be.
I was like I can definitely seemyself with, but the guys you
go after are guys who arefucking built, that I can never
be.
I was like I can never be.
I go, even if I am that person.
If I shut the way, got to losethe weight and did all of that

(46:00):
and fit the bill that you werelooking for, am I enough then,
like you've got a member to beable to kind of pick and choose
all of this?
I'm consenting to the thingsthat you're wanting and you're
consenting to all the things I'mwanting, but if we're not
aligning on a lot of the stuff,then something's got to give on
that.
You know what I mean.
So this is why I was able tocall her rad and do all of this

(46:25):
stuff and get on the stuff thathe wants and needs and what he
likes, the toys I bought.
I know I'm going to use some ofthe toys I have, that I just
bought and whatnot, yeah, but Iknow that he's going to love
them too and I know he'll usethem a lot.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
So it's just one of those things like you've got to
tell me, because if you're notgoing to tell me, I can't help
you in the slightest period.
And it's troubling, it'stroublesome a little bit.

(46:58):
You know what I mean, becauseit's like Naturally it fucks
with me.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Naturally yeah, because even if you take it all
out, if you take all of thephysicality out of it, you're in
a position where somebody ismaking you feel that you are
inadequate to some degree.
So you're starting to havedoubt.
And if that's already the case,it's not like you said, it's

(47:22):
not aligning, because nobodyshould feel that way in that
kind of dynamic period.
So if that's the case, then oneof you is feeling something,
the other one, it just is not.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
And it doesn't necessarily and I know that's
going to sound really bad and Idon't mean it personally but it
doesn't really matter where itstems from.
Yeah, it really doesn't.
So, because there has to be atleast a mutual understanding,
therefore an agreement, and ifit's not there, you can't have
it, you just you're not going tobe able to have it.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
And it's crazy because I, I the the autism side
or the spectrum of it.
I know that there are peoplewho have are autistic 100 you
know and they have a differenttype of feel.
I get that he has a type offeel, but I I'm not, like I said
, I'm not a psychopathwhatsoever, but I do see his
location because I it's open forme to see.

(48:12):
I'm like, hey, I go.
Hey, what are you at?
Where are you doing?
Oh, I'm hanging out with myfriends.
Bitch, you already know myschedule.
You know I'm off tuesday,wednesday, thursday, even if you
were here doing a podcast, it'snot like you can't come over,
hang out with me, chill with me,go out, go do these things.
I don't mind.
Yeah, you just need to tell mehe goes.

(48:32):
Oh well, I, I don't know whatis it with my agent, him or
whatnot he goes.
I just don't want my friends tolike whatever I'm like.
I'm sorry what.
I don't get that Like.
Your friends are your friends.
They're going to accept you, nomatter what it's like.
Why would that bother them onwho you like and what you do?

(48:54):
You say you're so blunt andopen with it.
But why is it that you don'twant to share your personal life
and what you do?
You say you're so blunt andopen with it, but why is it that
you don't want to share yourpersonal life and who you're
talking to and who you're withyou go?
Why is it that I'm a secretlike and I get it.
You know, he's defended me a fewtimes when I had dealt with
some issues or whatnot, and he'stalked shit or whatever.
He's there.
You know what I mean, so Ican't say anything.

(49:14):
It's just like I will tell them.
It's just like I can't like nottexting you like two or three
days out of the week and askingyou how your day's coming along,
how's everything going.
It's kind of hard.
It's kind of hard because Idon't get to see you as often.
I get school and I'm not goingto dog you on that, because
school I will always 100% sayyour school comes first, no

(49:38):
matter what.
But if I see that you'reactually traveling somewhere
else on your live, on yoursnapchat, and I can see that and
you're out and about hangingout with friends, you made time
for them, but you haven't madetime for me, like and that that
in itself is everything you needto know.
Yeah, straight up, Just likeStraight up, but it's like I

(50:01):
don't want to have to call offsomething and just be like dude.
I'm sorry, I just can't.
It's like I.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
But at what point do you draw the line where you are
doing?

Speaker 1 (50:10):
too much, exactly.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Because you're putting in excess effort to try
and meet somebody where they'reat, but they won't give you the
same courtesy.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Exactly, exactly, and that's kind of the hard part.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
So you're putting in what 80% to his 20?

Speaker 1 (50:24):
More like I'm doing a hundred.
I'm doing probably 99% of it.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
That's your answer.
You know that's your answer.
Not to say that it needs to be50-50, but meet me somewhere in
this range.
You needs to be 50 50, but meetme somewhere in this range, you
know, yeah, like give mesomething to work with.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Scratch your back, you scratch mine.
It's like by ordeal, like it'salways that, yeah, but see, this
is why I kind of I've alwaysventured back to rad like I will
always work with rad because wedo give that time and attention
to each other and I know whatyou want yeah, and we align just
fine, we align great.
He's a fucking horndog, so am I.
You know what I mean.
And then there's times where,if I can't make it to a certain

(51:02):
event, he's always asking do Ihave your permission to go ahead
and do it?
Because that's what we put.
And, yes, and I love that hewears that tag with fucking
pride.
Oh, so cute.
Uh, so it's.
I will always favor.
I don't want to have to favorone over the other, but I'm

(51:23):
starting to favor more of rad,because he does call me, he's
out, he's, he messages me he'smatching you, yeah range.
He matches every step, step bystep, you know that's awesome
energy by energy.
He, he fucking hits it.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
That's the way it should be, yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
And I will say, in the beginning of our
relationship I wasn't matchingthat energy.
I was focused more on the otherones.
Before anything else, though,but throughout the time I was
just like.
I remember I signed a contractwith him.
He had a contract, so why am Inot matching that energy that he
calls me every fucking day?
I talk to him on the phone, seehow he's doing.

(52:03):
He's doing good when he's atwork, he's driving, and, you
know, sometimes you call me whenI'm in the fucking restroom or
when I'm doing projects, and Iwill stop everything to talk
with him and whatnot, you know,just to get my attention,
because I told him I was likeI'm someone that gets very
caught up, and then you have tokeep my attention pretty much to
every single, almost everysingle time, but I'll also
message you too as well, but themoment you keep my schedule,

(52:25):
yeah, I'm willing to talk to you.
What's going on, what'shappening, how's your day?

Speaker 2 (52:29):
How's work he's putting in for that?

Speaker 1 (52:37):
yeah, that's awesome he really is, and I need to make
a little bit more effort forhim too as well.
And I need to go, and I try togo visit him as much as I
possibly can on my days off whenI have the time to be able to
do it, right, so, uh, and it'sjust be able to kind of do that
as well.
So, as I told him, I was likeyou don't know if I'm playing
with somebody or whatnot, I'lllet you know which.

(52:59):
I haven't really played withanybody at all whatsoever,
probably just gonna hang outthat one guy.
But I don't think anything'sgonna happen, period.
So question mark, we'll see.
Um, but it's uh, it was a funnight, it really was, and I I
get to finally hang out with myboys a little bit more.
He has a competition coming upon the coming up here soon, so

(53:21):
I'm gonna be there when I getoff work and go support him and
whatnot so yeah that's awesome.
I'm actually looking forward tothat.
Um, I don't know if I'll beable to do all three days,
because I need my sleep I needmy sleep goes back to the party.
Yeah, it really does it reallydoes like it's it's fun because
it's we're having it.
I'm having such a fucking grandtime.

(53:42):
I really fucking am having agrand time and I can't get not,
not, uh, enough of it like it's.
I do genuinely miss it.
And it's not that I it's notthat I miss being the center of
attention, I just miss havingfun with somebody who I care
about, and I do.
I do love and adore that man alot.
I love him a lot.
I mean I it's whatever time Iget with him, that I can spend

(54:05):
time with him Like, uh, like,not today, uh, like I did on
Tuesday.
That's something that we alwayshave so much fun on, you know.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
So that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Yeah, it really is, and it's uh, it's fun, it really
is, uh, there's.
You know what I mean?
It's just, I think people areeven pissed because some of them
, I think someone, told me likeoh, why him he's at that time
and then rad's like the fuck.
You mean that is awesome yeahno, I, I love it though, but

(54:40):
yeah, yeah, I told him it's likeI'm not gonna, I'm not gonna
keep you away from what you love.
You know what I mean I willalways give you a till of
caution.
That's pretty much it.
Because who am I to say no, youcan't do it because I don't
like them?
Yeah, I will get petty like ifI get a master that doesn't
allow me to play with their boyand they want to try to play

(55:01):
with mine.
No, you don't get that yeahluxury at all period.
Like no, you don't get to dothat.
The same one.
Then we're talking about thesame guy who's like always
touching me oh, I'm sorry,whatever.
Yeah, he was the one that'slike uh, no, you can't play with
my boy because you know this,not the other, which, by the way
, I heard from him.

(55:21):
He's just like yeah, I did notlike that, I did not like that
at all whatsoever, because it'sjust like I'm like bro, I told
you, you've you, I gave you acaution tale.
Like it's just how it is.
Like I warned you and I don'tknow what else to tell you.
Like I probably don't know ifI'm ever gonna get to play with
you ever again.
And if we ever do get to playagain, like is it gonna be the

(55:46):
same thing where I, you'll neverget a chance?
I was like so I guess we'llnever know and we'll never find
out.
So if it happens, it happens,and if it doesn't, it doesn't.
So he's just like I know itjust sucks.
It's just like I, I enjoy you,I had a lot of fun with you.

(56:06):
You know you respect me.
I mean, give me, don't get mewrong.
He respects me too, but in thesense is like you.
You haven't did me wrong at allI'm just like yeah, of course I
was like look, I'm here for you,baby boy.
You always will be my baby boy,no matter what, like you've
always I go.

(56:27):
I just didn't think it wasgoing to be to that where it was
going to sustain, to like thisbullshit where I couldn't play
with you at all anymore.
So it's just like what, what doyou?
What do you mean?
Like, what do you mean?
I don't remember ever not givingyou not permission, whatnot,
like.
If it's, for instance, for meand cat.

(56:48):
If I was playing with one ofcat's boys, yes, he would have
to ask permission or whatnot.
One of the things that catwould tell us is yes, wear
protection at all times, becauseyou know you've got to protect
each other, which is absolutelyfine.
This is why I don't play withnone of the boys, because I'm
not someone who uses protection,nor do I keep it in my drawer

(57:09):
period.
So I, it is what it is.
So I know my status, bitch, Iknow who I play with.
I don't know who your boys playwith, but I know who I play
with.
But it's one of those thingslike it's so um, like it's so
rad, it's like I want you to be.
I'm not going to restrict youfrom having fun.

(57:31):
I want you to be the best slutyou can be possibly be and have
fun doing it, but you're goingto do it with caution.
You will get tested, you willget on prep, you will do all of
this.
I'm not going to have you gohave fun.
The last thing I need you to dois be able to get this

(57:54):
particular thing that I don'twant you to get, because it can
play a big damper, then that'sgoing to put you in a spot where
now you're having to deal withmore than what the fucking meets
the eye on it.
I want you to take care ofyourself, period.
I don't have a problem playingwith somebody who's uh, you
equals you, who's undetectable,who has HIV or whatnot, because

(58:18):
as long as their viral load isundetectable, they cannot
transmit it.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
U equals U, so pretty much.
So that's just me, that's justme, that's just me.
That's what I know, because I'meducated.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
I'm edumacated.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
I'm edumacated and PrEP pre-exposure prophylaxis
helps you prevent that againstHIV.
To help you make sure about99.9% accuracy, the other 1% the
other 0.001% is using a condom.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
You're not protected all the time because not
everybody takes their pills theway they're supposed to.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
That's just how the whole world goes around.
But I digress, I digress, butanyway, that is it.
This is the end of the MatureMischief Podcast DeeDee final
thoughts I got nothing.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Hashtag consent.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Hashtag electro play.
Hashtag Hashtag consent.
Hashtag electro play.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Hashtag Hashtag.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Electro to the bow.
Hashtag.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
You seem shocked oh my God.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
See, here's the thing .

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Hashtag be careful with butts to the forehead that
part, that part that was fuckinghilarious.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
I was not expecting that.
I can still feel it fuckinghilarious.
Anywho, until we meet again,you sluts, love y'all.
Bye, ciao.