May 19, 2025 • 49 mins
Have you ever abandoned a hobby after someone told you weren't good enough? Or perhaps you've got a collection of half-started projects gathering dust in your metaphorical creative graveyard? You're definitely not alone.
Jesse opens up about a formative experience when his guitar teacher crushed his spirit by telling him to "never pick up the guitar again," creating a pattern of creative self-doubt that would follow him for years. This vulnerability sets the stage for an honest conversation about creative resilience and the journey back to creative confidence. Meanwhile, DeeDee shares her natural adaptability with limited resources, demonstrating how creativity often flourishes within constraints rather than unlimited options.
The conversation delves deep into Jesse's current passion project – learning to sew and create custom clothing. Starting with simple decorative pillows and gradually advancing toward more complex garments, his methodical approach demonstrates how breaking down creative skills into manageable steps can help overcome intimidation. The hosts explore the practical challenges of dedication to craft – from finding space free of pet hair to understanding fabric properties and mastering techniques through repetition.
What makes this episode particularly resonant is the exploration of how abandoned hobbies can be resurrected and potentially transformed into business opportunities. Jesse shares his vision for a custom clothing business, while DeeDee reveals how skills learned for costume-making projects unexpectedly equipped her with resin-casting abilities that opened new creative doors.
Whether you're a dabbler in multiple creative pursuits or someone still haunted by discouraging voices from your past, this conversation offers both practical advice and emotional reassurance. What forgotten talents are waiting in your creative graveyard? It might be time for a resurrection.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
what's up, gremlins?
Welcome back to another podcast.
My name is jesse james.
I hope everyone is doing it anddoing it well.
You know the drill.
This is the mature mischiefpodcast.
What is up?
What?
It up what it do mondays, herewe go monday, monday, monday.
(00:24):
Uh, let's talk about somethingabout mondays, because I know
that anytime mondays, here we gomonday, monday, monday.
Uh, let's talk about somethingabout mondays, because I know
that anytime mondays tends toroll around, for whatever reason
.
Um, there are just a lot ofthings that just come up for
mondays, right?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
yeah, you're ending the weekend cycle and you're
starting a brand new work week,right?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
like, like, does anybody ever get happy for a
monday?
And if you are getting happyfor a monday, we should just
like block them and shun themout of existence period I get
happy for monday.
Really block me, bitch, do it Iknow it, you know it, the whole
(01:03):
fucking world knows it.
I am your host, jesse James.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
And I am your co-host , Dee Dee.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yo Dee Dee.
Why do I keep fucking that up?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
You screwed it up on Saturday.
I did.
Well, you know what it'sfitting today, because today's
Monday yes, it's Monday, it'sdragging.
So it's fitting, today it'sMonday.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's dragging, so it's fitting today it's fitting.
I don't know about Saturday, Idon't know what you were on, but
okay, shenanigans, bitchShenanigans.
I was on that shenanigans list,but you know, I am definitely
somebody who does a lot ofprojects and they tend to be
buried under a lot of shit,cause I'm looking at it now,
(01:48):
it's all my crystals that arethere that I still need to put
away.
Yeah, cause I haven't put ittogether, it's a big cluster
fuck of crystals.
Yep, so it is what it is at theend of the day.
You have a whole graveyard.
Do I have a girl?
Uh, if I can start from thebeginning, I uh I think a lot of
(02:12):
it was uh, I was trying.
I remember my very firstproject that I was trying to
learn it was to draw.
So my parents would buy mestuff and I would try to draw
and everything.
I was getting good at it then,no, uh.
Then I took up guitar lessonsin high school.
Then my teacher told me, uh, Isucked, and for me to never pick
up guitar ever again.
(02:32):
Wow, he said that he would giveme, uh, an, a as long as I
showed up to class.
I'm like damn damn, I still havemy guitar.
It's still still sitting there,never picked it up.
It goes everywhere I go and itcollects dust, but because of it
I just don't.
I occasionally will pick it uphere and there, I know that.
(02:57):
I say don't pick it up.
But I still know one or twosongs off of there though.
But when my teacher told me notto ever pick up a guitar, that
really kind of fucked with me abit.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I'm like damn say like bro, who tells a kid that
like apparently this fucker did.
That isn't so yeah what kind ofteacher are you?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
not a very good one no not a very good one, to say
the least, but not at all it wasit.
It was kind of heartbreaking,to say the least, though,
because I I never expectedsomething like that to come out
of a teacher's mouth.
I've I've heard of stories liketeachers telling kids that, oh
you suck, don't, don't ever dothat or don't don't.
I've heard, like I've heard,story.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, it's like, it's kind of like you you need to
find your calling and see whereit works the most for you for
anybody, and if it ain't ateacher, then, bro, why are you
here?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I think ever since that teacher, ever since he said
that I, I've been soself-conscious about anything I
pick up as far as a hobby goes,um, but I remember sewing.
I remember doing a lot ofsewing when I was young because
I would sew a lot of my t-shirtsback.
I would make, create, createthings and whatnot.
That I do remember, but Ihand-stitched a lot of the stuff
and I always thought sewing wasactually pretty cool.
(04:09):
But anytime I did that again,mom kind of destroyed that.
Are you a faggot?
And I'm like, wow, I can't evenenjoy a good thing or a good
hobby.
I'm already at an age where I'mlearning everything.
I'm not saying learning thingsat a late age, I'm just a late
(04:30):
bloomer for a lot of the thingsthat I'm doing.
So, um, I'm starting to kind ofpick up on a lot of the things
that how to like make your ownt-shirts.
I'm watching youtube videos.
So it's been, um, it's beenfascinating to actually see.
So I, I can now make my ownt-shirts because now I know how
it's done properly.
I just now I know how to do thepattern.
There's, apparently there's apattern that you can buy or a
(04:53):
fabric that you can buy.
It's called tracing fabric, soyou can kind of trace the
pattern that you're wanting andthen you can kind of make it
that way.
So I'm like oh so I can makeall my muscle shirts that I like
wearing my you know, or whatnot, and whatever.
I'm just saying okay, I can dothis, I can make certain things
and whatnot.
So I like how he's like Ididn't do it, he's biting my
(05:16):
sandal.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, that's what I'm like.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
So it's just something that I'm actually
really excited about.
Making my decorative pillowshave been actually a lot,
because I'm kind of still tryingto learn how to hand sew
everything.
It's muscle memory, so it'strying to get everything pretty
much you know together whatnot.
Leather was one of them.
I tried doing leather that didnot work out in my favor.
I now had to know how to use itso I may pick it up again, but
(05:43):
I won't do it until I move outof this apartment because
there's too much dog haireverywhere and I want to keep my
leather outside, you know so,in a nice, warm environment.
So, right, I don't have to worryabout dog's fur and everything,
whatever, uh same thingcreating any type of t-shirt
lines or whatnot.
I am waiting for me to get anew place, because once I do,
(06:04):
I'm gonna literally just changeclothes and just go in there,
put things on there, linteverything down, right, um,
brush everything off, do what Igotta do, because that's gonna
be a workspace where no petsallowed, yeah, you know, but on
the outside, where the dogs canroam freely, that's where
they're pretty much going to beable to be at.
So I'm going to be very stick astickler on that.
(06:26):
So I don't know, I I findsewing very soothing.
I can do sewing just fine.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I think that's the point of hobby sometimes is is
to get you.
It's something that you enjoydoing or something that brings
you joy and it gets you out ofthe mundane law of life.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Which is awesome, yeah, awesome.
Mundane lull of life.
You know what I mean.
Which is awesome, yeah, awesome.
But then again, I've, I've doneit all my life and I've had
time to, because I was always athome or whatever.
Um, I too started with drawing.
Um, I want to say I was ninetake over and I remember seeing
my aunt um, she would just drawvideo game characters or serial
(07:08):
characters on notebook paper andwhen I would see them in her
little binder I thought it waslike so cool because it was so
accurate.
And she did it with freakingpen, oh yeah, or she would do it
with pen and matte pens.
I'm just like this is insane.
So I would always try to.
Her binder would be there andthen I'd get a notebook paper
and I put it right next to itand I tried to do exactly how
(07:30):
she did and for the most part itcame out.
I mean, it wasn't her levelobviously yeah but for my age it
was good, it was decent and sothey're just like dude, you
should totally, you know, do it.
So I would do it.
But I wasn't never like oh well, let's buy her a kit of this,
or here let's let.
It wasn't that they didn'tencourage me, but I wasn't given
(07:53):
the tools, so I use whatever.
I had kinds of creative stuff.
I, if you asked, if you askedmy family or my siblings, they'd
be like, uh, no, she can doeverything because, like I said,
all I had was nothing but timeand it would trigger something
like you know what.
(08:14):
I wonder if I can do this, likenot something that I saw, but
it was something that I createdin my head and I was just like,
like let me try, let me see.
Like I ain't got another time,so I would do it, and I'd be
like oh, I can do it Okay.
I can do it Like so I would getexcited and I would do whatever
(08:38):
.
And then I'll be like, well,dude, if I can do this, I wonder
if I can use the same tools.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
So I'm very good at being able to cover a range of
hobbies with just one set ofmaterials, tools, ingredients,
whatever, Just like thecosmetics Right, the place where
I buy my ingredients, all of myingredients.
Yes, I can make handmadecosmetics, but with those same
ingredients I can also create awhole line of nail polishes,
(09:05):
bath and body products etcpaints, uh, watercolors, like I
can do so much with just thatgroup of materials yeah of
course everybody's like well,how come you have another?
like I still need money to doyeah, like I have the
ingredients, but I'm like, yeah,but I need a whole different
base for shampoos, as I wouldfor watercolors.
You guys, you know what I meanlike I still need the liquids
(09:27):
for that kind of stuff.
Like all of my cosmetics aredry powder right, so I could, I
could do that part, but I'm justlike I can't, you know, do all
that.
I've designed clothes, I'vehelped create costumes, I paint.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
See, and what I'm learning about sewing.
What I like about it is thatyou can make your own stuff for
you, and how it fits you whichis great.
I'm basically what I'm doing islearning the basic stuff like
the pillows and everything andwhatnot.
I don't have the creativity youdo at a fucking high standard.
I say I don't have it, but Iknow I do if I put a lot of time
(10:03):
into it, which I have, and I'mlearning as I go along.
And working with T-shirts is abitch.
Working with T-shirts is abitch because when you cut them
they fold at the crease right.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Or they curl.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah.
So, and I'm just like youmoney's also.
I mean, I know I work and Ihave the money, but it's having
financially stableness to dothat no, I get, I get where
you're coming from.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's hilarious Because that's everybody's first
thing.
Like well, how first thing.
Like well, how come you haven'tdone this and how come you
haven't?
How come you haven't opened astore and I'm like you got store
opening money because thatcosts that is a ridiculous
amount.
Do you know what I would needfor that?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
you know what?
I wouldn't mind going intofashion and learning fashion in
school.
I think that would be prettymuch.
I would do it because I'mstarting to realize how much I
enjoy it and how to createcertain things.
I want to be able to clean up alot of it and I was watching a
youtuber on that was doing thesewing is how he does a machine.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I'm just like that is so cool and see, my thing is,
I'm not very good with sewingmachines.
They don't like me, and that'sokay.
I don't like them either.
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Uh, I respect them, but I don't like them um well,
because I, every single one I'vetouched, I've broken, not
intentionally, totallyaccidental well, if I get, if I
get, if I become an expert, I'lllet you have this one so you
can say don't let me touch it,bitch, I will break it, I
promise you.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I don't know how, but you know what I learned I main
thing I was trying to learn.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I was getting really annoyed with my sewing machine
because why is walgreens callingme okay, I'm back.
So a lot of it was what I'm.
What I was learning about thesewing machine is that there's a
lot of stuff that I can do withit and whatnot, even with
stretching material like certainstitchings and whatnot.
So as I started to get kind ofgot to know a little bit and how
(11:49):
to, how to work the sewingmachine, uh as well, I'm just
like this is.
This is pretty fun.
So I'm learning.
But I'm also learning thefabrics too as well, because I
have I have a shit ton of fabricnot a shit ton, but I have some
fabric that I have not touchedyet.
I have, like the mesh fabric.
I also have fabric that I canmake my own underwear.
I have pretty much.
I have a solid standing when itcomes down to it.
(12:12):
I just want to be able to getto know my body and proportions
a lot more better.
So when I make something, I canmake it to my standards, to
where it needs to be at for me.
So that's what I'm kind oflearning about sewing.
It's basically portionizing mybody where it's pretty much
where it's at.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
That makes sense.
Like I said, I can do that partbecause I don't get along with
machines.
I will gladly do the designingpart like I have a whole binder.
Still I I can play with thefabrics like on a mannequin,
because my sister my littlesister was obsessed with that
for a while and they got her thewhole.
Here's a machine, here's amannequin, here's all this
(12:50):
fabric, here's you know whatever, and she'll play, because she
used to do it on her dolls.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And they're like okay , she just keeps on Like, let's
Her, they did give her, but,granted, this was years apart.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
She's like half my age.
So back when I was little, Ididn't have that luxury.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
She did.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
She was handed what she needed to encourage that
particular interest or thathobby.
She can cultivate it if shewanted to.
Like anybody else, you try it.
If it's good for you, it's goodfor you.
If it's not your thing, it'snot your thing.
And she ran the course orwhatever.
I didn't snap like dude.
I got a whole binder.
Do you want to do some of thedesigns?
(13:29):
You know what I mean?
Because that would be ideal Ifsomebody would be like oh, I can
make your clothes cool.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You make them, bro, I'll design them, but you make
them because, speaking of which,I was going to hit you up
because I wanted to.
I want you to teach me how todo the drawing or design set,
like, how do you do it?
Because I want to learn how tomake certain things or whatnot
because I mean, I have thepatterns I'd have to go into the
um.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I know I have pattern .
I mean not pattern um likemodel pages.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, you know what I mean so that's kind of like
what I want to do because I haveI have uh patterns to make my
own vest for, like a dressy vest, like very the suit, like ties,
bow ties, all of that stuff, soI can make all of that stuff.
That's not the issue or theproblem.
Uh, the thing is I was tryingto figure out how to create the
pattern and then one of theyoutubers was teaching me like
(14:17):
how to do the pattern, likewhich each one doesn't make.
Oh, that makes so much sense.
So guess what I'm gonna do nowthat I have a little bit of
money.
I'm gonna see if I can run downto a fabric store around here
and see what time they close oropen so I can hit that store
right uh, at a certain time Iwas gonna do it today, but I
think some of them close at fiveo'clock or whatnot.
But but it's trying to justpretty much get everything where
(14:41):
it just needs to be.
Like I have the pattern to makethe harry potter robe oh yeah,
if I wanted to, and I also havea couple of halloween costumes
that if I want to make, I canmake that and I'm like, oh, this
is pretty fucking easy toactually make.
So it's been, it's been fun.
So I'm not done because I wantto create.
But the next thing I want toget is I want to get a mannequin
to fit, so when I measuremyself out right, I can measure
(15:05):
out the mannequin and put theclothing and the cloths and all
of that stuff on there you canmake a mannequin of your own
body, right.
No, I know that, but no, I don'twant to do that, I just want to
pay for it.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Okay, I'm just saying Because me and James did it.
I know you and James did it, Idid.
I wrapped his body and then Icut it off.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
You used a saran wrap , right.
And then we closed it.
And then it, and then we filledit, and then we stuck it on a
whatchamacallit with casters sohe could just roll it around.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Nope, and it was his legit body, so anything he put
on it or made for it fit himlike a freaking glove.
And I'm like, of course,because it's you yeah which was
hilarious, because when we hadfinished it, he had set it aside
so he could eat.
His torso is literally justsitting over there in the
hallway.
It should look, look, creepy.
It was so cool.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
See, I could make my own mannequin for myself and do
it just for me, but I also gotto learn the actual mannequin,
because if I'm making somebodyfor something for also for
somebody else, I want to be ableto adjust it to as well.
I just don't want to make itjust for me.
I can do that for me, but Idon't know if I can ever take
that to a competition orwhatever.
If I ever wanted to do it,right, you know, I just want to
(16:14):
be able to make sure that I canunderstand this and also
portionize that.
This is who I am as a personand whatnot.
Huh, 317?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
311.
Oh, did you not have a hangouttoday at 3?
Speaker 1 (16:28):
No, not until 7.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I don't know why.
I thought it was 3 today, okay.
No, you're good okay I was justlike sir did you not, no, no,
no.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Nine till seven, no, no, no, nine to seven.
What?
Yeah, okay cool.
That's why I was kind of hungry, but I didn't want to eat so
big because I'm hanging outlater on okay, yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, so, uh, but the mainthing is is that, uh, back to
what I was talking about, wasthat I want?
I want to know both.
Right, you know you can teachme how to make my own body and
create it.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
You know, that's not an issue, a problem.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
You can do that for yourself when you want to go all
out, exactly for me, I get thewhole idea of the man.
Yeah, because I I actually havesomebody says, like remember
that thing I showed you with themetal and the chains and
everything, and someone's likecan you make that?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
yeah, yeah, well, he just another hobby that you
wanted to pick up I, well, I sawit and I was looking at it.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I was like, okay, cool, that actually looks a lot
of fun.
And I was looking at some ofthe prices to buy on maybe
youtube and like in bulk and thechain mail to buy, I can just
go to fucking home depot andwhatnot.
But I'm wondering if I can justalready buy it already the
length and just buy the seatclamps and just put it on there
and whatnot.
But it's like I that's becauseit's part of fashion, right, I
(17:37):
want to learn.
I want to get back into theleather again because I want to
learn a little bit more, becauseI'm learning the sewing portion
and I'm learning how to and Ican do the patterns and
everything.
Now that I know the patterns onthat, I just got to go do the
patterns and learn the patternversion for leather and that's
pretty much it, because now thatI have, I can create things.
I can create stuff for myselfand whatnot, because he was fine
(18:01):
, I can do all of that andwhatnot for me.
So once I'm able to get allthat for me, I'm pretty much all
set and ready to go for me onthat.
But I did have a lot of dyinghobbies because I didn't know
where to start, but then againwe didn't have youtube back in
the day.
You know, now we have youtube,yeah, and I've always picked it
up.
The only hobby that I've keptfor such a long time is the
podcast.
The podcast I've kept rightforever.
(18:24):
I've gone through like I don'tknow how many different names
you know what I love that?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
you mentioned that.
You know you didn't haveyoutube back in the day, but you
have youtube now because Ihated and it's nothing personal
towards anybody who's ever toldme this but I would hate when
people were like oh well, I'mjust not creative like you and
I'm just like you don't have tobe dude you don't have to like.
It's not like I have someone upon you just because I'm capable
(18:49):
of of using my head in aparticular way.
You know what I mean.
Now that there's youtube, I'mlike there, go, get, get,
educate yourself on whatever itis you think you need it and
it's there for you, like,utilize it, and then you use
your imagination with that andgo off, dude, like because I
would, I would get, I would.
It would make me feel bad.
(19:09):
I know they didn't intend to,but I would just feel like I
would feel guilty, like peoplewould think that I thought I was
better or something, justbecause I could do something
that they couldn't.
You know what I mean, becausethey weren't throwing it in my
face.
But they're like, well, I can'tdo it, like you and I'm, and
they would like wait forresponse.
I'm like I don't know how torespond to that yeah I don't
know what to tell you.
Like I'm a kid myself, dude.
Like what do you want me to saysorry you suck?
(19:30):
Like that's horrible, that'sfreaking horrible, because you
don't suck.
You could do it, it's just, oh,I don't.
You just don't have itnaturally.
I'm sorry.
Like so you make me feel badbecause I it came to me
naturally.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Like welcome to dd's rant yeah, yeah, no, I would.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I would feel so bad.
I'm just like I don't know whatto say you know I would.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I wouldn't say I don't know if I would do the
same thing too as well, becauseI know that for me.
I've always said people arelike she's very creative.
I wish I had as much talent asshe did, because for you as
being creative and how you candraw, I wish I could draw,
because that would solve half ofmy fucking issues that I have
Almost half my issues right,almost half my issues right, you
(20:12):
know, because it's funny,because they're like oh my god,
you know how much money youwould make and I'm like.
But here's the thing for me if Iwanted to create something that
was leather, and I know, ifthey wanted something to draw on
, I know that they would have topay double the commission, my
commission and your commission.
Right, well, I don't drawanything, but I do have an
artist that I work with, so youwould have to pay.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I would combine what art is, and this is what it's
like.
This is my fee for making theleather.
This is her fee for theartistry.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, so it's combined together for her.
So that's what I would prettymuch do, and it becomes pretty
much as to that.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
But I'm learning as I go along, and I didn't realize
how much, because I've alreadytried fucking knitting.
Knitting just pissed me thefuck off.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Which is crazy, because you made that long ass
scarf when I thought that wascool shit.
I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Well, apparently, when I made the scarf, I didn't
make it right the way it wassupposed, because the edges were
kind of like, kind of loose.
They're not supposed to be.
It's supposed to be a nicestraight edge.
I mean, I took it apart and Ikept and I put it back to where
it was, which was great, um, butit was a huge ass scarf, which
I still love, by the way.
Yeah, uh, I want to do it againand I have.
(21:15):
I have the, the looms, I havethe looms, I can do the looms,
that's not a problem.
I can do that all day, everyday.
Right, just make the looms andjust do that and whatnot.
Uh, it's just learning theknitting or the size of the
knitting to make the scars,because every knit is different
in size, right, so I would haveto.
If I got something thin, Iwould have to double it, because
(21:36):
and it looks really cool whenyou double it, by the way,
because it's just like this isactually pretty fucking cool.
Yeah, so I can do that and I'veactually learned how to do that
portion I can.
And again it comes down to Iwant my own place because if I
do it here I'm gonna going tohave to keep it all outside yeah
, you know, in a tub, so itdoesn't smell like outside or
(21:56):
anything like that and I cankind of work on what I need to
work on.
I can do a loom all day, everyfucking day, because I love
those.
Get me to do fucking handstitching just to do Chala.
Dude, you got me fucked upBecause I can do it.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I like a good look.
You know what I have found?
The older that I've gotten, themore that whatever it is that
I'm working on needs to dosomething for me.
At this point, can I doeverything that I've ever
attempted to do?
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
But if you told me he's like,oh well, I need you to do this
all day, every day, and I'm like, yeah, if you told me to do
this all day, every day, I don'tknow that I could.
(22:36):
Can I do it?
Yeah, sure, but it has to dosomething for my level of
entertainment and my level ofcontentment, because if it
doesn't and I'm not feeling it.
I cannot do it all day every day.
So the fact that I can jugglemultiple things, I'm cool with
it, because if somebody ordersthis from me like, okay, cool, I
(22:59):
get you to do this this onetime.
And then somebody's like, ohwell, I need a set of nails Cool
, I get to work on nails now andI'm just like, oh, after that,
I need you to customize someshoes Cool, I get draining my
joy from it yeah and if it doesthat, if it starts to feel more
(23:22):
like work than it is a hobby orsomething creative for me, that
pulls me out of that?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I will lose my love for it and it's oh very much so,
because I hate it because I'mlike oh, they made me hate what
I absolutely love.
Yeah, it's crazy, and it's notthey.
I think that's the thing withhow I function.
I think that's when it comes tolike for me, the pillows.
That it's.
It's becoming very repetitivefor me now.
It's just like I'm starting tolike.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
But and I think that's your thing with the hobby
because, like I said, it'sexciting, you'd be like I could
start something new, I get totry this, you know, whatever.
But then after a short while,if you're not comfortable with
having to do it over and over,it's like okay, this isn't for
me, but I liked it but.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
But I had to.
I had to put that aside becauseit's like I've already have all
these t-shirts and I've alreadyput a lot of money into it, so
it's like I really need to usewhat I have and it's been
sitting there for quite sometime already, so I'm actually
learning how to adjust, yes, toa lot of it and it's been, it's
been phenomenal, right.
I love the adjustment that hascome with it, but it also I'm
(24:24):
starting to like therepetitiveness when it comes
down to making, uh, the pillowsand whatnot, yeah.
So with that repetitiveness itbecomes even better for me
because I can kind of go okay,my stitching is still looks a
little so, looks a little whack,or my, uh, my pillows are not
lining up the way they'resupposed to, like I'm, I want to
(24:46):
make sure that I'm not cuttingoff too much, not too less, you
know, because that becomes afactor in a lot of the that I'm
doing right.
So I'm doing a lot of themeasurements and everything,
like some of the like the dragonball z pillowcases that I've
done, and everything.
I'm just like son of a bitchand I'm also paying attention
that I'm making the holes likeno bigger than like half an inch
, so it can.
So I'm not leaving like a whole, like a whole lot.
(25:07):
So I need to be making enoughwhere my hand can fit in there
and then turn it in right andI've done that already on two
pillows already, and I'mthinking why in the fuck am I
doing that?
so I'm, I'm just sitting heregoing I yeah, aye, aye, aye, aye
, aye.
But I'm learning, as I go alongand trying to make all these
different outcomes, or thesedifferent pillows, that I need
(25:31):
to pay attention a little bitmore.
But I'm also learning that Ialso got to figure out how to
keep my fabric together, becausethey tend to slip off for
whatever reason, I'm just likewhy.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Are you putting the foot down?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah, I'm putting the foot down, yeah, I'm putting
the foot down.
I was going to say I think Ineed to adjust it where it keeps
it nice and tight, becauseoccasionally I don't think it's
keeping it together, becauseit'll get loose.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Okay, for whatever reason, because it's supposed to
just hold it enough to whereit's steady while you're running
it right not slip, but not nothold it so tight that you can't
still move the fabric alongright, you know what I mean.
No, like it has to be a justright setting.
So yeah, maybe it just needs tobe tweaked a little bit so it's
um pretty much.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
This is dealing with that, uh portion of it, so yeah,
that's they all think they'regetting something.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, it's called condensation, johnny, which I'm
okay with.
It's because they smell thisbag, but they think you're the
one that has the food.
I bet you.
That's why they're here.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I'm like, oh yeah, the bag's over there, the actual
food's behind that door youguys, but it's becoming, you
know, pretty much just learningit Right, being just more
repetitious on it and whatnotand whatever.
But that's what I kind of justlike about the whole sewing
thing, like it's a new skillthat I'm learning, that I'm
(26:53):
teaching myself.
But I'm also trying to be likeI don't want to be to the point
where it's like it's repetitious, like I'm done already.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
You know what I mean.
Yep, and see, that's, that'sthe.
It's like there's pros and consto it all, because I want to
get to a place where I find thatone thing that I'm like okay,
this, this I could do all day,every day, and I don't care how
repetitious it is, because I gotit and I'm still happy and I'm
still entertained.
And it still takes me out of myhead like I want to still find
that.
Like they're like oh yeah, youhaven't found it in all this
list of shit you'd like notreally, I guess I don't know, I
want to do it all, but theshitty part of that of not doing
(27:29):
that, like I said, I like tojuggle, but the downside to that
is when I do have to comearound to something that I
haven't touched in a while, Iforget like crap because it
wasn't repetitive enough and I'mlike well, how did I do this
one this last time?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
crap, I gotta do it all over again, dude, like but I
wanted, I wanted to be able tomake be, be able to be something
where I can just go damn, I didthis and I was.
I didn't.
I didn't stop doing it, I justkept doing it and kept doing it
and kept doing it because thatwas something that I wanted to
do every single time, no matterwhat.
So it was.
(28:03):
It becomes that.
So I just don't want to haveone hubby already paid 200 and
something dollars for thatfucking sewing machine, right?
So I'm gonna fucking use it,yeah, uh.
Second of all, I bought already.
I've already torn up a half thet-shirts that I have, and I've
already bought more shirts.
Now I gotta cut some of thoseup because they're not fitting
the way they're supposed to, andI'm really getting pissed off
(28:23):
because every time I go and buya shirt or a t-shirt, it doesn't
fit me properly the way it'ssupposed to.
It's either too short or itshrinks or whatever.
And I'm just like Jesus,fucking Christ, I can't catch a
fucking break.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
So I have all this material to make.
What I want to make.
It's just getting it done whereit needs to be, right.
So it's just pretty muchgetting to know the material to
where it needs to be for themost part.
But for the other than thatit's, I I've have thoroughly
have enjoyed my journey with thesewing machine because I'm
(28:59):
learning it, but but the pillows, it has been a great start.
It has been a really really,really fun start with it because
it kind of shows where I needto kind of put things at.
Instead of putting a little, Ineed to go by the right needles
because it has to have.
I want to get the ones with thelittle ball on it.
The one I have doesn't have noballs on it, so I can't.
Oh, the pins, yeah, the pinslike.
(29:20):
Like I don't have the right pinsso I'm using the pinchers.
So I figured I go.
Well, you know what?
I will use the paper clipholders, the black ones.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yes.
To be able to do certain thingswith them, and they're a lot
more sturdier, for I know,because every time it was just
funny Because, like I said, youwere like that Mexican mom with
the chancla and you weren'tlooking, so you were just kind
of that was hilarious.
(29:54):
But no, I get what you meanBecause, like I said, I miss
being able to learn how to dolike the costume making, for
example.
Oh, that was so much fun, butonly because every costume that
we made it required somethingdifferent to learn or something
different to learn how to make.
That was going to be a part ofthe costume.
(30:15):
So, like for Thanos, forexample, I learned how to cast
resin.
So if I wanted to guess what Icould do like, I can add to.
Like I learned how to castresin.
So if I wanted to guess what Icould do Like, I can add to like
.
I need more to add to my list,right?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I can do resin casts.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I can do resin jewelry.
I can do resin figurines.
I could do resin anything, tobe honest, because it's one of
the things I learned why?
Because Thanos's gauntlet thatwe made required the stones and
the knuckles, so I was in chargeof that.
James was like, oh, here, I'mgoing to work on this.
You know, just follow theinstructions here, Do that,
whatever he goes in and make thestones and I'm like, all right,
(30:51):
cool.
So there I went casting.
I'm just like, oh my God, Ihope this came out right.
And I'm like I did it, I know.
That's why I'm like, oh my God.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Which is great, because I mean those who can do
the things that you do, that arevery multi-talented and all of
a sudden they can figure it out.
And I don't think talent hasanything to do with anything,
because it's literally justreading instructions and pretty
much doing it.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Right yo, it's easiest because they show you
while they tell you like well,that was the thing.
I was more of a visual learnerso I I took, I took to youtube,
so it I'm just saying, oh shit,this is really fucking easy, I
can do it yes and now I know howto make my own button-up shirts
.
Now I can actually, because oneof the things he did was a
button-up shirt and he's likewe're gonna do this pattern.
He's like okay, you wanttraceable fabric.
I just like there's traceablefabric for this.
What the hell?
(31:44):
I don't have to worry, I can go.
But the next step that I wantto do is that, if I'm going to
get the fabric, I want to getwood.
So, when I already have it.
I can just trace out the stuffand then I can put it on the
wood.
So in this way I can put it, Ican just do it there and I can
lay it down straight and justkind of cut everything.
(32:06):
And I don't need a really thickone, I just need like a small
one.
So I can kind of just do what Ineed to do and have it there.
So it's all smooth out, so Idon't have to worry about it,
and then I can just put it asideand be like oh, I want you know
what I want to wear.
I'm going to wear a t-shirttoday, so I can do this right
and do some long sleeves andshort sleeves and whatnot.
So I want to be able to do andmake and create my own clothing
(32:30):
line.
One clothing is getting alittle expensive and I could buy
everything by the yard andthat's a lot more cheaper.
So fabric is really cheap.
Well, now it was cheap.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Some of them are.
Some of them are.
There's some.
That is just ridiculous oh,very much so it sucks, because
those are the pretty ones, atleast for me, especially when
yaya han came out with herfabric line oh, you're like oh
yeah, because we'd go shoppingfor whatever james needed for
his costumes or whatever.
And I'm just there like I'mgonna go to the yeah, yeah
section.
(33:00):
I wasn't.
I'm not a fan of hers.
I will say that I'm not a fanbecause true colors came out but
, those fabrics were the shit.
I will give her that they werepricey as shit.
I never got a single one ofthem because I'm like, yeah, 30
something dollars for a yard.
No, thanks no, thanks, that'sI'm like I no but what did it
(33:22):
stop me from?
Going over there and justtouching everything and, oh my
god, look how pretty this is.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Like, no, no, I enjoyed it I enjoyed that window
shopping but that was the thingI'm also learning about
rhinestones, too, as well likeall the different like textures
and rhinestones and whatnot andhow to do it, and you just told
me a couple of things.
So, you know, with the uh, thehe, he sift in the back of it,
so I'm just like, okay, cool,well, I know, I know what I need
(33:47):
to go look for.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
So especially because it's what you need, like if
you're gonna spend your money.
Spend it on what you need rightbecause then it makes your job
so much easier for you.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
But I showed you the one that I wanted to get the
rhinestone with the rope,because that one guy made the
fucking those were so cute theywere fucking sickening so cute,
that's all like oh okay, that'swhat I have, old jeans, that I
can do that too, and I was likeyou know what why not?
I have.
I can do that and get what Ineed and I can turn my fucking
(34:17):
fashion into somethingfashionable, you know.
So I might as well have fundoing it.
You know what I mean.
And I have a few leather stuffthat I want to like, fix and
alter because I have an uh, aharness well, that's right yeah,
it needs to be altered.
That needs to be altered,that's right because it was.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
It was oddly big.
That was funny.
When you're trying it on,You're like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
I think it's too big.
Well, that big chess piece fitsperfectly.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, but what do we call it?
It's too long, it's too big so.
I'm like, yeah, it's going tohave to get cut and readjusted
big time.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
So I know somebody who works on leather who does a
fantastic job, so I'm gonna askhim hey, can you make an
adjustment on me for me, ifyou're able to tell me how much?
I already have it.
It's already fixed.
It's just the uh.
The length of it is really long.
Like when can we set somethingup here?
So hopefully he's up for it.
I just need to.
His name is chibity.
He's the one that does the uh.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Poach poetry oh, that's right yeah he's.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
He's been doing a lot of other stuff, so I might just
hit him up for it and be like,hey, I really need to get this.
I want to wear it so bad and Ihaven't been able to do it
because it doesn't have theproper measurements for me.
So if you can fix that, thatwould be great.
But I'm also I need to learnhow to measure in centimeters.
(35:42):
You know, um, but I'm also Ineed to learn how to measure in
centimeters.
You know so math?
Yeah, I know, because someonejust gave me their measurements,
but it's in centimeters and Istill do everything in inches.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
So I mean, centimeters is not that bad you
can just convert with your phone, just saying yeah, all you have
to put is centimeters to inchesor inches to centimeters, and
then do your shit.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
That's what I do, because I have to do well,
centimeters to inches or inchesto centimeters, and then do your
shit.
That's what I do, because Ihave to do.
Well, the measuring tape hasthis wonderful thing, has
already centimeters already onit, so just, got to follow that
Touche.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
So Because when I do the formulas for the makeup, I
can't, when they're like, oh,two milliliters, I'm just like
what's two milliliters inteaspoons?
Dude Like, how about ounces?
Can we do ounces Like come onthat's what I'm saying, like I
hate having to, like I need mathto do that whole product line.
(36:30):
The whole production linerequires math Cause it's
formulas, literally formulas ofall kinds of ingredients and
liquids and oils and bases andwaxes, and I'm like no, I got to
weigh and waxes and I'm like,no, I gotta weigh this.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I'd rather do the inches on fabric any day,
because there is no weights onthere and whatnot.
The only thing I gotta prettymuch be careful when it comes to
weight is the rhinestones,because the rhinestones can be
very, very heavy, yes, sowhatever you're putting your
rhinestones on, that dress orthat shirt has to hold it.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
So that's the only thing like if you're making
something especially when theyare uh crystals like swarovski,
or if they are glass rhinestonesthey are incredibly heavy.
There's plastic.
There's um oh, what is it?
There's resin.
They're making resin ones now.
Um.
There's glass, of course.
(37:20):
There's crystals, and I knowthere's something else, but
anyways, they all have differentweights.
So the more you have on aT-shirt, the more droopy it's
going to hang off of the bodywhich really is something that's
like.
That's too much for me, man.
I designed it.
You do what you got to do withit.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
So that's when I got to figure out certain dresses
and how they're fitted.
Well to do with it.
So that's when I gotta figureout, like, like certain dresses
and how they, how they're fittedwell, I'm not trying to put
myself in a dress.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
I mean I wouldn't mind because I want to.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
I want to do drag right.
I was gonna say you're gonnahave to.
I know I'm gonna have to, but Iwant to make sure that the
dress I'm putting in, or fittedin it, fits me personally.
You know what I mean?
Uh, one, I'm a hairymotherfucker and the only thing
I want to shave off is justprobably much where my hands and
my wrists are.
So that looks good, because I'mnot trying to shave my entire
body.
So I'm going to have a lot ofcover-ups.
(38:09):
So because, one, if you'retrying to shave your entire body
, you might as well do the wholething right, and let's face it,
I'm not trying to do all that.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I know.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
So that's a lot the face, the beard I would do, even
though there are bearded dragqueens out there, but I want to
be authentic and do the wholething.
Only reason is I love my beardbut it's high maintenance.
It really is high maintenance.
You got to keep it a certainway.
Certain beard oils, you got towash it, just like your hair,
otherwise it gets very dirty andnasty and whatnot.
Yeah, and having to keep upwith it is so fucking annoying.
(38:45):
It whatnot yeah, and having tokeep up cute with it.
It's so fucking annoying itreally is.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I love that you said that.
Why?
Because it is annoying.
No, I, I absolutely I can'timagine, because I'm not a guy.
But I know exactly what youmean.
But that's just because I'm agirl.
And our maintenance alone forthe, our entire stupid body, is
just like well it.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
It gets in the way too as well, because when you
want to do face care, you'reonly doing face care, like where
the skin is yeah so, and to meI'm just like why am I going to
do face care for just this whenalso you know, and you got the
other rest too as well.
Yeah, but the thing is is thatI have a husband who likes my
(39:23):
facial beard.
He doesn't want me to shave itoff, and I'm just like, well,
fuck you, because I'm doing thisnow.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I know what character was it for.
There was a character thatJames wanted to do and he was
like man.
But I'm going to have to shaveoff.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
And I'm like, do you have to?
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Because I love his chops, because his chops were
full and I'm just like you gobad boy, oh my god anyway.
Um, and he had his, his soulpatch or whatever.
Sometimes he would connect it,sometimes he would and sometimes
he, you know, put in a littlebit of uh, goatee, sometimes not
but I don't remember what itwas gonna be, but he would have
to have shaven all of it.
And I'm just like you know what?
I love your facial hair.
(40:09):
I love your facial hair, butyou do whatever it is you want
to do.
It's your body, dude.
I still love you, no matterwhat.
But yeah, it just don't look soweird.
Like I know, you know you'llget used to it or whatever, but
it was.
That's why I said like I knowwhat you mean, because it was a
lot of maintenance or whateverlike I would help him, you know,
trim his or whatever or likeeven it out and stuff like that
(40:31):
but I'm just like, this is a lot, you know but, like I said, I
get it because for women we haveto do everything head to toe
head to toe and I'm just like aeverything bath and everything,
and yeah, that's what we call it.
It's called it's called aneverything bath or everything
shower, whatever it's.
When you literally take care ofeverything in one shot, it is
(40:53):
ridiculous.
It is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
It's even ridiculous for me too as well, because when
it gets my body, when I'm usedwearing this, I don't feel the
material right I don't feel thematerial.
I don't feel it's sticky whenI'm used to wearing this I don't
feel the material.
I don't feel the material.
I don't feel it's sticky whenI'm hot.
I've shaved my body before and.
I know what that's like.
So when I get hot, everythingjust sticks, so I'm just like oh
, this feels weird.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Like I'm not used to it.
So when you don't have hair,it's a different feel, so you're
just not used to it at all,period.
So it's you know you, it'staking care of yourself.
On, on that particular um form,though, but doing, doing drag,
or wanting to do it, because Ithis is why I'm kind of getting
(41:35):
into it I need one year.
I've said to myself I just needone year to learn everything.
Lose theose, the weight that Ineed to lose, get back to where
I need to be fitted for myself,take care of my face, take care
of everything.
Learn how to do makeup.
I can't say I don't know how todo makeup, because when I did
that photo when James had passedaway and I did half of his
beast, I was really fuckingimpressed, like how well I did
(41:57):
that.
Just the lining.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I'm just like bro, you can do it like that's what
I'm saying when people are likewell, I can't, you can.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
No, I know I can't, I can, but what I have issues is
I'm having issues blendingproperly.
You know everybody has that.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Yeah, that's everybody's main complaint it's
always like you're like can youshow me?
I'm like I can't show you howto blend.
I can tell you.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
It's literally, it's also blending and getting to
know the color will like whatstuff.
So I I went online to look at acouple of color wheels that I
wanted to look at and they havelike little posters and
everything that you can do withmakeup dresses, clothes, shirts,
all of that good stuff.
So I'm just like, oh okay, soI've never gotten to know the
yeah, the color well so it's.
(42:41):
It's getting to know the colorwheel just a little bit better,
or whatnot.
Photography was another onethat I've.
I still have my photographycamera, but do I use it?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:49):
I never got like I would take photos for everybody
or for people, but I nevergotten to it like where I was
doing it for people, bitch, youknow what I mean Speaking of
which I found this fuckingamazing thing to be able to do
with.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
my camera hooks up to my cell phone or to my tablet
and I can actually see how itlooks when I take a photo.
So if it needs more lighting,if it needs adjustments, it can
just be like okay, cool, Take apicture.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
And I can do it on my phone.
Okay, hold still Three, two,one stop.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Badass.
Yeah, that is so badass.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
That is so fucking wicked like just to be able to
kind of because this is like yougot to set up the colors, the
platforms, you know, that'swhere you get to know your color
will just a little bit better,yeah, but you see, that's why I
want a house, so I can kind oflike, okay, this is what I'm
going to do, this is what I need, and this is also where I want
my own business, because if Ican get my own business just to
make and like make, people arelike hey, I need a t-shirt.
I heard y'all do customizedt-shirts.
(43:44):
Yeah, pick your pattern, that'sthere.
And what we do is I take a look, I do your measurements here
really quickly.
Once I get your shirts, I do itin bulk and you can pick as
many colors you want and this ishow much it is and this is how
many shirts and designs that youget for you and it'll fit.
And you just tell me how long,where do you want to fit it, how
much you want to do it.
(44:05):
I think I would charge a personno more than like $20 a t-shirt
just for the fabric alone,because if I have extra fabric
material missing or it's justthere laying there.
I would definitely like maketies or bow ties or make scraps
something out of it, I don'tknow, or bow ties, or make
scraps Right Something out of it, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
But that's kind of like I want to.
Like I said, it's learning somuch stuff and doing hobbies,
but I want to turn this hobbyinto an actual business.
I wouldn't mind doing this, Ijust need to sit down with it as
much as possible.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
But anytime I get home I'm just like ugh.
And then my days off I'm justlike I just don't want to do
anything.
Sometimes you do, sometimes youdon't yeah, no, I have to, but
I do need to go buy more of theum stabilizer here in a little
bit.
Yeah, I may go to somewherebecause I'm seeing the
stabilizer.
I normally would get the black,but the black's like four
(44:56):
dollars a yard.
I'm just like, how much are thewhites?
Speaker 2 (44:59):
because Because it's not going to matter, it's on the
inside.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yeah, it's on the inside, so I really don't care,
but I was on Amazon earlier.
I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
As soon as you put your fingers up.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
You already know Amazon.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
You don't even have to say anything, you don't have
to do anything.
If your fingers go up, I'm likewhat, or what did you do, or
what happened?
Speaker 1 (45:21):
what I'm, what I'm learning about amazon is that
it's great when you're trying todo small projects, because
there are some things that aresmaller, but when I'm on these
other places, like for bulk, Ithat's what I need and that's
what I want.
I want something in bulk, likeI want to get my fabric and
everything in bulk.
I want to get stuff in bulk,but I also know I need the money
to do it.
So, uh.
(45:41):
So I'm getting there, I'mslowly getting there, right, um,
but we'll see what happens.
We'll see what happens.
It's it's been just.
It's been kind of just a nicelittle journey or whatnot or
whatever, and I'm kind oflearning that it's like I have a
lot of crystals lyingeverywhere.
I was like, oh, you know what,I'll just put him in like some
pillows, like for, like obsidianor amethyst or whatnot.
(46:02):
Just, you're like, okay, I'llput some crystals or some
something in there for y'all, ify'all want it, just to kind of
like, give you some type of likea protection pillow, if you.
Yeah, you know, you tell mewhat you want and I'll throw the
crystals in there for you.
So you have it there.
So that's, uh, something thatI'm kind of doing it.
Well, that's the end of podcast.
I do appreciate y'all tuninginto the mature mischief podcast
(46:23):
and our hobbies Hashtag.
What dead hobbies do you havethat you need to resurrect again
?
Speaker 2 (46:29):
What hobbies are in your graveyard?
Speaker 1 (46:31):
No shit, don't tell me, Show me what you got.
Tell me what you got, what youreally really got.
Tell me what hobbies that youloved and you turned into a
business and now you're thrivingon it.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
I've got a whole mausoleum.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
You do have a whole fucking mausoleum.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
You know what?
I've never actually sat downand made the list I should.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
I think this, this desk here, which your desk?
Yeah, what I'm going to do isI'm going to move all the
crystals.
I think I'm going to go aheadand may just put her in the case
here.
But what I'm going to do is I'mgoing to pack up everything
already here and put it away,and then I'm going to bring the
sewing machine over here so Ihave more room.
(47:11):
But I just need to make keepthe.
I need to put the gate barrierthere so the dogs don't get to
it.
So other than that I thinkthat's what'm, because I, when I
had, when I cleared out thatdesk, when I had my meltdown,
when I cleared it out uh, it wascleared I was like, oh, and I
was like, oh, yeah, I could putthe sewing machine there.
(47:32):
That's duh and I could use alittle joy there and put
whatever I need.
So, yeah, I need to.
It's already packing time, it'salready May.
We have June, july, august.
Yeah, it's time to pack.
So here we go again.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
This is the fun part, yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
It's going to be fun.
It's going to be fun.
But, anyway, appreciate y'all.
Thank y'all.
My name is Jesse James.
I am your host.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
And I am.
what's up, gremlins?
Welcome back to another podcast.
My name is jesse james.
I hope everyone is doing it anddoing it well.
You know the drill.
This is the mature mischiefpodcast.
What is up?
What?
It up what it do mondays, herewe go monday, monday, monday.
(00:24):
Uh, let's talk about somethingabout mondays, because I know
that anytime mondays, here we gomonday, monday, monday.
Uh, let's talk about somethingabout mondays, because I know
that anytime mondays tends toroll around, for whatever reason
.
Um, there are just a lot ofthings that just come up for
mondays, right?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
yeah, you're ending the weekend cycle and you're
starting a brand new work week,right?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
like, like, does anybody ever get happy for a
monday?
And if you are getting happyfor a monday, we should just
like block them and shun themout of existence period I get
happy for monday.
Really block me, bitch, do it Iknow it, you know it, the whole
(01:03):
fucking world knows it.
I am your host, jesse James.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
And I am your co-host , Dee Dee.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yo Dee Dee.
Why do I keep fucking that up?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
You screwed it up on Saturday.
I did.
Well, you know what it'sfitting today, because today's
Monday yes, it's Monday, it'sdragging.
So it's fitting, today it'sMonday.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's dragging, so it's fitting today it's fitting.
I don't know about Saturday, Idon't know what you were on, but
okay, shenanigans, bitchShenanigans.
I was on that shenanigans list,but you know, I am definitely
somebody who does a lot ofprojects and they tend to be
buried under a lot of shit,cause I'm looking at it now,
(01:48):
it's all my crystals that arethere that I still need to put
away.
Yeah, cause I haven't put ittogether, it's a big cluster
fuck of crystals.
Yep, so it is what it is at theend of the day.
You have a whole graveyard.
Do I have a girl?
Uh, if I can start from thebeginning, I uh I think a lot of
(02:12):
it was uh, I was trying.
I remember my very firstproject that I was trying to
learn it was to draw.
So my parents would buy mestuff and I would try to draw
and everything.
I was getting good at it then,no, uh.
Then I took up guitar lessonsin high school.
Then my teacher told me, uh, Isucked, and for me to never pick
up guitar ever again.
(02:32):
Wow, he said that he would giveme, uh, an, a as long as I
showed up to class.
I'm like damn damn, I still havemy guitar.
It's still still sitting there,never picked it up.
It goes everywhere I go and itcollects dust, but because of it
I just don't.
I occasionally will pick it uphere and there, I know that.
(02:57):
I say don't pick it up.
But I still know one or twosongs off of there though.
But when my teacher told me notto ever pick up a guitar, that
really kind of fucked with me abit.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I'm like damn say like bro, who tells a kid that
like apparently this fucker did.
That isn't so yeah what kind ofteacher are you?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
not a very good one no not a very good one, to say
the least, but not at all it wasit.
It was kind of heartbreaking,to say the least, though,
because I I never expectedsomething like that to come out
of a teacher's mouth.
I've I've heard of stories liketeachers telling kids that, oh
you suck, don't, don't ever dothat or don't don't.
I've heard, like I've heard,story.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, it's like, it's kind of like you you need to
find your calling and see whereit works the most for you for
anybody, and if it ain't ateacher, then, bro, why are you
here?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I think ever since that teacher, ever since he said
that I, I've been soself-conscious about anything I
pick up as far as a hobby goes,um, but I remember sewing.
I remember doing a lot ofsewing when I was young because
I would sew a lot of my t-shirtsback.
I would make, create, createthings and whatnot.
That I do remember, but Ihand-stitched a lot of the stuff
and I always thought sewing wasactually pretty cool.
(04:09):
But anytime I did that again,mom kind of destroyed that.
Are you a faggot?
And I'm like, wow, I can't evenenjoy a good thing or a good
hobby.
I'm already at an age where I'mlearning everything.
I'm not saying learning thingsat a late age, I'm just a late
(04:30):
bloomer for a lot of the thingsthat I'm doing.
So, um, I'm starting to kind ofpick up on a lot of the things
that how to like make your ownt-shirts.
I'm watching youtube videos.
So it's been, um, it's beenfascinating to actually see.
So I, I can now make my ownt-shirts because now I know how
it's done properly.
I just now I know how to do thepattern.
There's, apparently there's apattern that you can buy or a
(04:53):
fabric that you can buy.
It's called tracing fabric, soyou can kind of trace the
pattern that you're wanting andthen you can kind of make it
that way.
So I'm like oh so I can makeall my muscle shirts that I like
wearing my you know, or whatnot, and whatever.
I'm just saying okay, I can dothis, I can make certain things
and whatnot.
So I like how he's like Ididn't do it, he's biting my
(05:16):
sandal.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, that's what I'm like.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
So it's just something that I'm actually
really excited about.
Making my decorative pillowshave been actually a lot,
because I'm kind of still tryingto learn how to hand sew
everything.
It's muscle memory, so it'strying to get everything pretty
much you know together whatnot.
Leather was one of them.
I tried doing leather that didnot work out in my favor.
I now had to know how to use itso I may pick it up again, but
(05:43):
I won't do it until I move outof this apartment because
there's too much dog haireverywhere and I want to keep my
leather outside, you know so,in a nice, warm environment.
So, right, I don't have to worryabout dog's fur and everything,
whatever, uh same thingcreating any type of t-shirt
lines or whatnot.
I am waiting for me to get anew place, because once I do,
(06:04):
I'm gonna literally just changeclothes and just go in there,
put things on there, linteverything down, right, um,
brush everything off, do what Igotta do, because that's gonna
be a workspace where no petsallowed, yeah, you know, but on
the outside, where the dogs canroam freely, that's where
they're pretty much going to beable to be at.
So I'm going to be very stick astickler on that.
(06:26):
So I don't know, I I findsewing very soothing.
I can do sewing just fine.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I think that's the point of hobby sometimes is is
to get you.
It's something that you enjoydoing or something that brings
you joy and it gets you out ofthe mundane law of life.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Which is awesome, yeah, awesome.
Mundane lull of life.
You know what I mean.
Which is awesome, yeah, awesome.
But then again, I've, I've doneit all my life and I've had
time to, because I was always athome or whatever.
Um, I too started with drawing.
Um, I want to say I was ninetake over and I remember seeing
my aunt um, she would just drawvideo game characters or serial
(07:08):
characters on notebook paper andwhen I would see them in her
little binder I thought it waslike so cool because it was so
accurate.
And she did it with freakingpen, oh yeah, or she would do it
with pen and matte pens.
I'm just like this is insane.
So I would always try to.
Her binder would be there andthen I'd get a notebook paper
and I put it right next to itand I tried to do exactly how
(07:30):
she did and for the most part itcame out.
I mean, it wasn't her levelobviously yeah but for my age it
was good, it was decent and sothey're just like dude, you
should totally, you know, do it.
So I would do it.
But I wasn't never like oh well, let's buy her a kit of this,
or here let's let.
It wasn't that they didn'tencourage me, but I wasn't given
(07:53):
the tools, so I use whatever.
I had kinds of creative stuff.
I, if you asked, if you askedmy family or my siblings, they'd
be like, uh, no, she can doeverything because, like I said,
all I had was nothing but timeand it would trigger something
like you know what.
(08:14):
I wonder if I can do this, likenot something that I saw, but
it was something that I createdin my head and I was just like,
like let me try, let me see.
Like I ain't got another time,so I would do it, and I'd be
like oh, I can do it Okay.
I can do it Like so I would getexcited and I would do whatever
(08:38):
.
And then I'll be like, well,dude, if I can do this, I wonder
if I can use the same tools.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
So I'm very good at being able to cover a range of
hobbies with just one set ofmaterials, tools, ingredients,
whatever, Just like thecosmetics Right, the place where
I buy my ingredients, all of myingredients.
Yes, I can make handmadecosmetics, but with those same
ingredients I can also create awhole line of nail polishes,
(09:05):
bath and body products etcpaints, uh, watercolors, like I
can do so much with just thatgroup of materials yeah of
course everybody's like well,how come you have another?
like I still need money to doyeah, like I have the
ingredients, but I'm like, yeah,but I need a whole different
base for shampoos, as I wouldfor watercolors.
You guys, you know what I meanlike I still need the liquids
(09:27):
for that kind of stuff.
Like all of my cosmetics aredry powder right, so I could, I
could do that part, but I'm justlike I can't, you know, do all
that.
I've designed clothes, I'vehelped create costumes, I paint.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
See, and what I'm learning about sewing.
What I like about it is thatyou can make your own stuff for
you, and how it fits you whichis great.
I'm basically what I'm doing islearning the basic stuff like
the pillows and everything andwhatnot.
I don't have the creativity youdo at a fucking high standard.
I say I don't have it, but Iknow I do if I put a lot of time
(10:03):
into it, which I have, and I'mlearning as I go along.
And working with T-shirts is abitch.
Working with T-shirts is abitch because when you cut them
they fold at the crease right.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Or they curl.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah.
So, and I'm just like youmoney's also.
I mean, I know I work and Ihave the money, but it's having
financially stableness to dothat no, I get, I get where
you're coming from.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's hilarious Because that's everybody's first
thing.
Like well, how first thing.
Like well, how come you haven'tdone this and how come you
haven't?
How come you haven't opened astore and I'm like you got store
opening money because thatcosts that is a ridiculous
amount.
Do you know what I would needfor that?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
you know what?
I wouldn't mind going intofashion and learning fashion in
school.
I think that would be prettymuch.
I would do it because I'mstarting to realize how much I
enjoy it and how to createcertain things.
I want to be able to clean up alot of it and I was watching a
youtuber on that was doing thesewing is how he does a machine.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I'm just like that is so cool and see, my thing is,
I'm not very good with sewingmachines.
They don't like me, and that'sokay.
I don't like them either.
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Uh, I respect them, but I don't like them um well,
because I, every single one I'vetouched, I've broken, not
intentionally, totallyaccidental well, if I get, if I
get, if I become an expert, I'lllet you have this one so you
can say don't let me touch it,bitch, I will break it, I
promise you.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I don't know how, but you know what I learned I main
thing I was trying to learn.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I was getting really annoyed with my sewing machine
because why is walgreens callingme okay, I'm back.
So a lot of it was what I'm.
What I was learning about thesewing machine is that there's a
lot of stuff that I can do withit and whatnot, even with
stretching material like certainstitchings and whatnot.
So as I started to get kind ofgot to know a little bit and how
(11:49):
to, how to work the sewingmachine, uh as well, I'm just
like this is.
This is pretty fun.
So I'm learning.
But I'm also learning thefabrics too as well, because I
have I have a shit ton of fabricnot a shit ton, but I have some
fabric that I have not touchedyet.
I have, like the mesh fabric.
I also have fabric that I canmake my own underwear.
I have pretty much.
I have a solid standing when itcomes down to it.
(12:12):
I just want to be able to getto know my body and proportions
a lot more better.
So when I make something, I canmake it to my standards, to
where it needs to be at for me.
So that's what I'm kind oflearning about sewing.
It's basically portionizing mybody where it's pretty much
where it's at.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
That makes sense.
Like I said, I can do that partbecause I don't get along with
machines.
I will gladly do the designingpart like I have a whole binder.
Still I I can play with thefabrics like on a mannequin,
because my sister my littlesister was obsessed with that
for a while and they got her thewhole.
Here's a machine, here's amannequin, here's all this
(12:50):
fabric, here's you know whatever, and she'll play, because she
used to do it on her dolls.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And they're like okay , she just keeps on Like, let's
Her, they did give her, but,granted, this was years apart.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
She's like half my age.
So back when I was little, Ididn't have that luxury.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
She did.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
She was handed what she needed to encourage that
particular interest or thathobby.
She can cultivate it if shewanted to.
Like anybody else, you try it.
If it's good for you, it's goodfor you.
If it's not your thing, it'snot your thing.
And she ran the course orwhatever.
I didn't snap like dude.
I got a whole binder.
Do you want to do some of thedesigns?
(13:29):
You know what I mean?
Because that would be ideal Ifsomebody would be like oh, I can
make your clothes cool.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You make them, bro, I'll design them, but you make
them because, speaking of which,I was going to hit you up
because I wanted to.
I want you to teach me how todo the drawing or design set,
like, how do you do it?
Because I want to learn how tomake certain things or whatnot
because I mean, I have thepatterns I'd have to go into the
um.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I know I have pattern .
I mean not pattern um likemodel pages.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, you know what I mean so that's kind of like
what I want to do because I haveI have uh patterns to make my
own vest for, like a dressy vest, like very the suit, like ties,
bow ties, all of that stuff, soI can make all of that stuff.
That's not the issue or theproblem.
Uh, the thing is I was tryingto figure out how to create the
pattern and then one of theyoutubers was teaching me like
(14:17):
how to do the pattern, likewhich each one doesn't make.
Oh, that makes so much sense.
So guess what I'm gonna do nowthat I have a little bit of
money.
I'm gonna see if I can run downto a fabric store around here
and see what time they close oropen so I can hit that store
right uh, at a certain time Iwas gonna do it today, but I
think some of them close at fiveo'clock or whatnot.
But but it's trying to justpretty much get everything where
(14:41):
it just needs to be.
Like I have the pattern to makethe harry potter robe oh yeah,
if I wanted to, and I also havea couple of halloween costumes
that if I want to make, I canmake that and I'm like, oh, this
is pretty fucking easy toactually make.
So it's been, it's been fun.
So I'm not done because I wantto create.
But the next thing I want toget is I want to get a mannequin
to fit, so when I measuremyself out right, I can measure
(15:05):
out the mannequin and put theclothing and the cloths and all
of that stuff on there you canmake a mannequin of your own
body, right.
No, I know that, but no, I don'twant to do that, I just want to
pay for it.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Okay, I'm just saying Because me and James did it.
I know you and James did it, Idid.
I wrapped his body and then Icut it off.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
You used a saran wrap , right.
And then we closed it.
And then it, and then we filledit, and then we stuck it on a
whatchamacallit with casters sohe could just roll it around.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Nope, and it was his legit body, so anything he put
on it or made for it fit himlike a freaking glove.
And I'm like, of course,because it's you yeah which was
hilarious, because when we hadfinished it, he had set it aside
so he could eat.
His torso is literally justsitting over there in the
hallway.
It should look, look, creepy.
It was so cool.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
See, I could make my own mannequin for myself and do
it just for me, but I also gotto learn the actual mannequin,
because if I'm making somebodyfor something for also for
somebody else, I want to be ableto adjust it to as well.
I just don't want to make itjust for me.
I can do that for me, but Idon't know if I can ever take
that to a competition orwhatever.
If I ever wanted to do it,right, you know, I just want to
(16:14):
be able to make sure that I canunderstand this and also
portionize that.
This is who I am as a personand whatnot.
Huh, 317?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
311.
Oh, did you not have a hangouttoday at 3?
Speaker 1 (16:28):
No, not until 7.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I don't know why.
I thought it was 3 today, okay.
No, you're good okay I was justlike sir did you not, no, no,
no.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Nine till seven, no, no, no, nine to seven.
What?
Yeah, okay cool.
That's why I was kind of hungry, but I didn't want to eat so
big because I'm hanging outlater on okay, yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, so, uh, but the mainthing is is that, uh, back to
what I was talking about, wasthat I want?
I want to know both.
Right, you know you can teachme how to make my own body and
create it.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
You know, that's not an issue, a problem.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
You can do that for yourself when you want to go all
out, exactly for me, I get thewhole idea of the man.
Yeah, because I I actually havesomebody says, like remember
that thing I showed you with themetal and the chains and
everything, and someone's likecan you make that?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
yeah, yeah, well, he just another hobby that you
wanted to pick up I, well, I sawit and I was looking at it.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I was like, okay, cool, that actually looks a lot
of fun.
And I was looking at some ofthe prices to buy on maybe
youtube and like in bulk and thechain mail to buy, I can just
go to fucking home depot andwhatnot.
But I'm wondering if I can justalready buy it already the
length and just buy the seatclamps and just put it on there
and whatnot.
But it's like I that's becauseit's part of fashion, right, I
(17:37):
want to learn.
I want to get back into theleather again because I want to
learn a little bit more, becauseI'm learning the sewing portion
and I'm learning how to and Ican do the patterns and
everything.
Now that I know the patterns onthat, I just got to go do the
patterns and learn the patternversion for leather and that's
pretty much it, because now thatI have, I can create things.
I can create stuff for myselfand whatnot, because he was fine
(18:01):
, I can do all of that andwhatnot for me.
So once I'm able to get allthat for me, I'm pretty much all
set and ready to go for me onthat.
But I did have a lot of dyinghobbies because I didn't know
where to start, but then againwe didn't have youtube back in
the day.
You know, now we have youtube,yeah, and I've always picked it
up.
The only hobby that I've keptfor such a long time is the
podcast.
The podcast I've kept rightforever.
(18:24):
I've gone through like I don'tknow how many different names
you know what I love that?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
you mentioned that.
You know you didn't haveyoutube back in the day, but you
have youtube now because Ihated and it's nothing personal
towards anybody who's ever toldme this but I would hate when
people were like oh well, I'mjust not creative like you and
I'm just like you don't have tobe dude you don't have to like.
It's not like I have someone upon you just because I'm capable
(18:49):
of of using my head in aparticular way.
You know what I mean.
Now that there's youtube, I'mlike there, go, get, get,
educate yourself on whatever itis you think you need it and
it's there for you, like,utilize it, and then you use
your imagination with that andgo off, dude, like because I
would, I would get, I would.
It would make me feel bad.
(19:09):
I know they didn't intend to,but I would just feel like I
would feel guilty, like peoplewould think that I thought I was
better or something, justbecause I could do something
that they couldn't.
You know what I mean, becausethey weren't throwing it in my
face.
But they're like, well, I can'tdo it, like you and I'm, and
they would like wait forresponse.
I'm like I don't know how torespond to that yeah I don't
know what to tell you.
Like I'm a kid myself, dude.
Like what do you want me to saysorry you suck?
(19:30):
Like that's horrible, that'sfreaking horrible, because you
don't suck.
You could do it, it's just, oh,I don't.
You just don't have itnaturally.
I'm sorry.
Like so you make me feel badbecause I it came to me
naturally.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Like welcome to dd's rant yeah, yeah, no, I would.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I would feel so bad.
I'm just like I don't know whatto say you know I would.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I wouldn't say I don't know if I would do the
same thing too as well, becauseI know that for me.
I've always said people arelike she's very creative.
I wish I had as much talent asshe did, because for you as
being creative and how you candraw, I wish I could draw,
because that would solve half ofmy fucking issues that I have
Almost half my issues right,almost half my issues right, you
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know, because it's funny,because they're like oh my god,
you know how much money youwould make and I'm like.
But here's the thing for me if Iwanted to create something that
was leather, and I know, ifthey wanted something to draw on
, I know that they would have topay double the commission, my
commission and your commission.
Right, well, I don't drawanything, but I do have an
artist that I work with, so youwould have to pay.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I would combine what art is, and this is what it's
like.
This is my fee for making theleather.
This is her fee for theartistry.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, so it's combined together for her.
So that's what I would prettymuch do, and it becomes pretty
much as to that.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
But I'm learning as I go along, and I didn't realize
how much, because I've alreadytried fucking knitting.
Knitting just pissed me thefuck off.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Which is crazy, because you made that long ass
scarf when I thought that wascool shit.
I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Well, apparently, when I made the scarf, I didn't
make it right the way it wassupposed, because the edges were
kind of like, kind of loose.
They're not supposed to be.
It's supposed to be a nicestraight edge.
I mean, I took it apart and Ikept and I put it back to where
it was, which was great, um, butit was a huge ass scarf, which
I still love, by the way.
Yeah, uh, I want to do it againand I have.
(21:15):
I have the, the looms, I havethe looms, I can do the looms,
that's not a problem.
I can do that all day, everyday.
Right, just make the looms andjust do that and whatnot.
Uh, it's just learning theknitting or the size of the
knitting to make the scars,because every knit is different
in size, right, so I would haveto.
If I got something thin, Iwould have to double it, because
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and it looks really cool whenyou double it, by the way,
because it's just like this isactually pretty fucking cool.
Yeah, so I can do that and I'veactually learned how to do that
portion I can.
And again it comes down to Iwant my own place because if I
do it here I'm gonna going tohave to keep it all outside yeah
, you know, in a tub, so itdoesn't smell like outside or
(21:56):
anything like that and I cankind of work on what I need to
work on.
I can do a loom all day, everyfucking day, because I love
those.
Get me to do fucking handstitching just to do Chala.
Dude, you got me fucked upBecause I can do it.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I like a good look.
You know what I have found?
The older that I've gotten, themore that whatever it is that
I'm working on needs to dosomething for me.
At this point, can I doeverything that I've ever
attempted to do?
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
But if you told me he's like,oh well, I need you to do this
all day, every day, and I'm like, yeah, if you told me to do
this all day, every day, I don'tknow that I could.
(22:36):
Can I do it?
Yeah, sure, but it has to dosomething for my level of
entertainment and my level ofcontentment, because if it
doesn't and I'm not feeling it.
I cannot do it all day every day.
So the fact that I can jugglemultiple things, I'm cool with
it, because if somebody ordersthis from me like, okay, cool, I
(22:59):
get you to do this this onetime.
And then somebody's like, ohwell, I need a set of nails Cool
, I get to work on nails now andI'm just like, oh, after that,
I need you to customize someshoes Cool, I get draining my
joy from it yeah and if it doesthat, if it starts to feel more
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like work than it is a hobby orsomething creative for me, that
pulls me out of that?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I will lose my love for it and it's oh very much so,
because I hate it because I'mlike oh, they made me hate what
I absolutely love.
Yeah, it's crazy, and it's notthey.
I think that's the thing withhow I function.
I think that's when it comes tolike for me, the pillows.
That it's.
It's becoming very repetitivefor me now.
It's just like I'm starting tolike.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
But and I think that's your thing with the hobby
because, like I said, it'sexciting, you'd be like I could
start something new, I get totry this, you know, whatever.
But then after a short while,if you're not comfortable with
having to do it over and over,it's like okay, this isn't for
me, but I liked it but.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
But I had to.
I had to put that aside becauseit's like I've already have all
these t-shirts and I've alreadyput a lot of money into it, so
it's like I really need to usewhat I have and it's been
sitting there for quite sometime already, so I'm actually
learning how to adjust, yes, toa lot of it and it's been, it's
been phenomenal, right.
I love the adjustment that hascome with it, but it also I'm
(24:24):
starting to like therepetitiveness when it comes
down to making, uh, the pillowsand whatnot, yeah.
So with that repetitiveness itbecomes even better for me
because I can kind of go okay,my stitching is still looks a
little so, looks a little whack,or my, uh, my pillows are not
lining up the way they'resupposed to, like I'm, I want to
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make sure that I'm not cuttingoff too much, not too less, you
know, because that becomes afactor in a lot of the that I'm
doing right.
So I'm doing a lot of themeasurements and everything,
like some of the like the dragonball z pillowcases that I've
done, and everything.
I'm just like son of a bitchand I'm also paying attention
that I'm making the holes likeno bigger than like half an inch
, so it can.
So I'm not leaving like a whole, like a whole lot.
(25:07):
So I need to be making enoughwhere my hand can fit in there
and then turn it in right andI've done that already on two
pillows already, and I'mthinking why in the fuck am I
doing that?
so I'm, I'm just sitting heregoing I yeah, aye, aye, aye, aye
, aye.
But I'm learning, as I go alongand trying to make all these
different outcomes, or thesedifferent pillows, that I need
(25:31):
to pay attention a little bitmore.
But I'm also learning that Ialso got to figure out how to
keep my fabric together, becausethey tend to slip off for
whatever reason, I'm just likewhy.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Are you putting the foot down?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah, I'm putting the foot down, yeah, I'm putting
the foot down.
I was going to say I think Ineed to adjust it where it keeps
it nice and tight, becauseoccasionally I don't think it's
keeping it together, becauseit'll get loose.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Okay, for whatever reason, because it's supposed to
just hold it enough to whereit's steady while you're running
it right not slip, but not nothold it so tight that you can't
still move the fabric alongright, you know what I mean.
No, like it has to be a justright setting.
So yeah, maybe it just needs tobe tweaked a little bit so it's
um pretty much.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
This is dealing with that, uh portion of it, so yeah,
that's they all think they'regetting something.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, it's called condensation, johnny, which I'm
okay with.
It's because they smell thisbag, but they think you're the
one that has the food.
I bet you.
That's why they're here.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I'm like, oh yeah, the bag's over there, the actual
food's behind that door youguys, but it's becoming, you
know, pretty much just learningit Right, being just more
repetitious on it and whatnotand whatever.
But that's what I kind of justlike about the whole sewing
thing, like it's a new skillthat I'm learning, that I'm
(26:53):
teaching myself.
But I'm also trying to be likeI don't want to be to the point
where it's like it's repetitious, like I'm done already.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
You know what I mean.
Yep, and see, that's, that'sthe.
It's like there's pros and consto it all, because I want to
get to a place where I find thatone thing that I'm like okay,
this, this I could do all day,every day, and I don't care how
repetitious it is, because I gotit and I'm still happy and I'm
still entertained.
And it still takes me out of myhead like I want to still find
that.
Like they're like oh yeah, youhaven't found it in all this
list of shit you'd like notreally, I guess I don't know, I
want to do it all, but theshitty part of that of not doing
(27:29):
that, like I said, I like tojuggle, but the downside to that
is when I do have to comearound to something that I
haven't touched in a while, Iforget like crap because it
wasn't repetitive enough and I'mlike well, how did I do this
one this last time?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
crap, I gotta do it all over again, dude, like but I
wanted, I wanted to be able tomake be, be able to be something
where I can just go damn, I didthis and I was.
I didn't.
I didn't stop doing it, I justkept doing it and kept doing it
and kept doing it because thatwas something that I wanted to
do every single time, no matterwhat.
So it was.
(28:03):
It becomes that.
So I just don't want to haveone hubby already paid 200 and
something dollars for thatfucking sewing machine, right?
So I'm gonna fucking use it,yeah, uh.
Second of all, I bought already.
I've already torn up a half thet-shirts that I have, and I've
already bought more shirts.
Now I gotta cut some of thoseup because they're not fitting
the way they're supposed to, andI'm really getting pissed off
(28:23):
because every time I go and buya shirt or a t-shirt, it doesn't
fit me properly the way it'ssupposed to.
It's either too short or itshrinks or whatever.
And I'm just like Jesus,fucking Christ, I can't catch a
fucking break.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
So I have all this material to make.
What I want to make.
It's just getting it done whereit needs to be, right.
So it's just pretty muchgetting to know the material to
where it needs to be for themost part.
But for the other than thatit's, I I've have thoroughly
have enjoyed my journey with thesewing machine because I'm
(28:59):
learning it, but but the pillows, it has been a great start.
It has been a really really,really fun start with it because
it kind of shows where I needto kind of put things at.
Instead of putting a little, Ineed to go by the right needles
because it has to have.
I want to get the ones with thelittle ball on it.
The one I have doesn't have noballs on it, so I can't.
Oh, the pins, yeah, the pinslike.
(29:20):
Like I don't have the right pinsso I'm using the pinchers.
So I figured I go.
Well, you know what?
I will use the paper clipholders, the black ones.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yes.
To be able to do certain thingswith them, and they're a lot
more sturdier, for I know,because every time it was just
funny Because, like I said, youwere like that Mexican mom with
the chancla and you weren'tlooking, so you were just kind
of that was hilarious.
(29:54):
But no, I get what you meanBecause, like I said, I miss
being able to learn how to dolike the costume making, for
example.
Oh, that was so much fun, butonly because every costume that
we made it required somethingdifferent to learn or something
different to learn how to make.
That was going to be a part ofthe costume.
(30:15):
So, like for Thanos, forexample, I learned how to cast
resin.
So if I wanted to guess what Icould do like, I can add to.
Like I learned how to castresin.
So if I wanted to guess what Icould do Like, I can add to like
.
I need more to add to my list,right?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I can do resin casts.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I can do resin jewelry.
I can do resin figurines.
I could do resin anything, tobe honest, because it's one of
the things I learned why?
Because Thanos's gauntlet thatwe made required the stones and
the knuckles, so I was in chargeof that.
James was like, oh, here, I'mgoing to work on this.
You know, just follow theinstructions here, Do that,
whatever he goes in and make thestones and I'm like, all right,
(30:51):
cool.
So there I went casting.
I'm just like, oh my God, Ihope this came out right.
And I'm like I did it, I know.
That's why I'm like, oh my God.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Which is great, because I mean those who can do
the things that you do, that arevery multi-talented and all of
a sudden they can figure it out.
And I don't think talent hasanything to do with anything,
because it's literally justreading instructions and pretty
much doing it.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Right yo, it's easiest because they show you
while they tell you like well,that was the thing.
I was more of a visual learnerso I I took, I took to youtube,
so it I'm just saying, oh shit,this is really fucking easy, I
can do it yes and now I know howto make my own button-up shirts
.
Now I can actually, because oneof the things he did was a
button-up shirt and he's likewe're gonna do this pattern.
He's like okay, you wanttraceable fabric.
I just like there's traceablefabric for this.
What the hell?
(31:44):
I don't have to worry, I can go.
But the next step that I wantto do is that, if I'm going to
get the fabric, I want to getwood.
So, when I already have it.
I can just trace out the stuffand then I can put it on the
wood.
So in this way I can put it, Ican just do it there and I can
lay it down straight and justkind of cut everything.
(32:06):
And I don't need a really thickone, I just need like a small
one.
So I can kind of just do what Ineed to do and have it there.
So it's all smooth out, so Idon't have to worry about it,
and then I can just put it asideand be like oh, I want you know
what I want to wear.
I'm going to wear a t-shirttoday, so I can do this right
and do some long sleeves andshort sleeves and whatnot.
So I want to be able to do andmake and create my own clothing
(32:30):
line.
One clothing is getting alittle expensive and I could buy
everything by the yard andthat's a lot more cheaper.
So fabric is really cheap.
Well, now it was cheap.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Some of them are.
Some of them are.
There's some.
That is just ridiculous oh,very much so it sucks, because
those are the pretty ones, atleast for me, especially when
yaya han came out with herfabric line oh, you're like oh
yeah, because we'd go shoppingfor whatever james needed for
his costumes or whatever.
And I'm just there like I'mgonna go to the yeah, yeah
section.
(33:00):
I wasn't.
I'm not a fan of hers.
I will say that I'm not a fanbecause true colors came out but
, those fabrics were the shit.
I will give her that they werepricey as shit.
I never got a single one ofthem because I'm like, yeah, 30
something dollars for a yard.
No, thanks no, thanks, that'sI'm like I no but what did it
(33:22):
stop me from?
Going over there and justtouching everything and, oh my
god, look how pretty this is.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Like, no, no, I enjoyed it I enjoyed that window
shopping but that was the thingI'm also learning about
rhinestones, too, as well likeall the different like textures
and rhinestones and whatnot andhow to do it, and you just told
me a couple of things.
So, you know, with the uh, thehe, he sift in the back of it,
so I'm just like, okay, cool,well, I know, I know what I need
(33:47):
to go look for.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
So especially because it's what you need, like if
you're gonna spend your money.
Spend it on what you need rightbecause then it makes your job
so much easier for you.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
But I showed you the one that I wanted to get the
rhinestone with the rope,because that one guy made the
fucking those were so cute theywere fucking sickening so cute,
that's all like oh okay, that'swhat I have, old jeans, that I
can do that too, and I was likeyou know what why not?
I have.
I can do that and get what Ineed and I can turn my fucking
(34:17):
fashion into somethingfashionable, you know.
So I might as well have fundoing it.
You know what I mean.
And I have a few leather stuffthat I want to like, fix and
alter because I have an uh, aharness well, that's right yeah,
it needs to be altered.
That needs to be altered,that's right because it was.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
It was oddly big.
That was funny.
When you're trying it on,You're like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
I think it's too big.
Well, that big chess piece fitsperfectly.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, but what do we call it?
It's too long, it's too big so.
I'm like, yeah, it's going tohave to get cut and readjusted
big time.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
So I know somebody who works on leather who does a
fantastic job, so I'm gonna askhim hey, can you make an
adjustment on me for me, ifyou're able to tell me how much?
I already have it.
It's already fixed.
It's just the uh.
The length of it is really long.
Like when can we set somethingup here?
So hopefully he's up for it.
I just need to.
His name is chibity.
He's the one that does the uh.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Poach poetry oh, that's right yeah he's.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
He's been doing a lot of other stuff, so I might just
hit him up for it and be like,hey, I really need to get this.
I want to wear it so bad and Ihaven't been able to do it
because it doesn't have theproper measurements for me.
So if you can fix that, thatwould be great.
But I'm also I need to learnhow to measure in centimeters.
(35:42):
You know, um, but I'm also Ineed to learn how to measure in
centimeters.
You know so math?
Yeah, I know, because someonejust gave me their measurements,
but it's in centimeters and Istill do everything in inches.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
So I mean, centimeters is not that bad you
can just convert with your phone, just saying yeah, all you have
to put is centimeters to inchesor inches to centimeters, and
then do your shit.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
That's what I do, because I have to do well,
centimeters to inches or inchesto centimeters, and then do your
shit.
That's what I do, because Ihave to do.
Well, the measuring tape hasthis wonderful thing, has
already centimeters already onit, so just, got to follow that
Touche.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
So Because when I do the formulas for the makeup, I
can't, when they're like, oh,two milliliters, I'm just like
what's two milliliters inteaspoons?
Dude Like, how about ounces?
Can we do ounces Like come onthat's what I'm saying, like I
hate having to, like I need mathto do that whole product line.
(36:30):
The whole production linerequires math Cause it's
formulas, literally formulas ofall kinds of ingredients and
liquids and oils and bases andwaxes, and I'm like no, I got to
weigh and waxes and I'm like,no, I gotta weigh this.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I'd rather do the inches on fabric any day,
because there is no weights onthere and whatnot.
The only thing I gotta prettymuch be careful when it comes to
weight is the rhinestones,because the rhinestones can be
very, very heavy, yes, sowhatever you're putting your
rhinestones on, that dress orthat shirt has to hold it.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
So that's the only thing like if you're making
something especially when theyare uh crystals like swarovski,
or if they are glass rhinestonesthey are incredibly heavy.
There's plastic.
There's um oh, what is it?
There's resin.
They're making resin ones now.
Um.
There's glass, of course.
(37:20):
There's crystals, and I knowthere's something else, but
anyways, they all have differentweights.
So the more you have on aT-shirt, the more droopy it's
going to hang off of the bodywhich really is something that's
like.
That's too much for me, man.
I designed it.
You do what you got to do withit.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
So that's when I got to figure out certain dresses
and how they're fitted.
Well to do with it.
So that's when I gotta figureout, like, like certain dresses
and how they, how they're fittedwell, I'm not trying to put
myself in a dress.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
I mean I wouldn't mind because I want to.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
I want to do drag right.
I was gonna say you're gonnahave to.
I know I'm gonna have to, but Iwant to make sure that the
dress I'm putting in, or fittedin it, fits me personally.
You know what I mean?
Uh, one, I'm a hairymotherfucker and the only thing
I want to shave off is justprobably much where my hands and
my wrists are.
So that looks good, because I'mnot trying to shave my entire
body.
So I'm going to have a lot ofcover-ups.
(38:09):
So because, one, if you'retrying to shave your entire body
, you might as well do the wholething right, and let's face it,
I'm not trying to do all that.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I know.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
So that's a lot the face, the beard I would do, even
though there are bearded dragqueens out there, but I want to
be authentic and do the wholething.
Only reason is I love my beardbut it's high maintenance.
It really is high maintenance.
You got to keep it a certainway.
Certain beard oils, you got towash it, just like your hair,
otherwise it gets very dirty andnasty and whatnot.
Yeah, and having to keep upwith it is so fucking annoying.
(38:45):
It whatnot yeah, and having tokeep up cute with it.
It's so fucking annoying itreally is.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I love that you said that.
Why?
Because it is annoying.
No, I, I absolutely I can'timagine, because I'm not a guy.
But I know exactly what youmean.
But that's just because I'm agirl.
And our maintenance alone forthe, our entire stupid body, is
just like well it.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
It gets in the way too as well, because when you
want to do face care, you'reonly doing face care, like where
the skin is yeah so, and to meI'm just like why am I going to
do face care for just this whenalso you know, and you got the
other rest too as well.
Yeah, but the thing is is thatI have a husband who likes my
(39:23):
facial beard.
He doesn't want me to shave itoff, and I'm just like, well,
fuck you, because I'm doing thisnow.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I know what character was it for.
There was a character thatJames wanted to do and he was
like man.
But I'm going to have to shaveoff.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
And I'm like, do you have to?
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Because I love his chops, because his chops were
full and I'm just like you gobad boy, oh my god anyway.
Um, and he had his, his soulpatch or whatever.
Sometimes he would connect it,sometimes he would and sometimes
he, you know, put in a littlebit of uh, goatee, sometimes not
but I don't remember what itwas gonna be, but he would have
to have shaven all of it.
And I'm just like you know what?
I love your facial hair.
(40:09):
I love your facial hair, butyou do whatever it is you want
to do.
It's your body, dude.
I still love you, no matterwhat.
But yeah, it just don't look soweird.
Like I know, you know you'llget used to it or whatever, but
it was.
That's why I said like I knowwhat you mean, because it was a
lot of maintenance or whateverlike I would help him, you know,
trim his or whatever or likeeven it out and stuff like that
(40:31):
but I'm just like, this is a lot, you know but, like I said, I
get it because for women we haveto do everything head to toe
head to toe and I'm just like aeverything bath and everything,
and yeah, that's what we call it.
It's called it's called aneverything bath or everything
shower, whatever it's.
When you literally take care ofeverything in one shot, it is
(40:53):
ridiculous.
It is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
It's even ridiculous for me too as well, because when
it gets my body, when I'm usedwearing this, I don't feel the
material right I don't feel thematerial.
I don't feel it's sticky whenI'm used to wearing this I don't
feel the material.
I don't feel the material.
I don't feel it's sticky whenI'm hot.
I've shaved my body before and.
I know what that's like.
So when I get hot, everythingjust sticks, so I'm just like oh
, this feels weird.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Like I'm not used to it.
So when you don't have hair,it's a different feel, so you're
just not used to it at all,period.
So it's you know you, it'staking care of yourself.
On, on that particular um form,though, but doing, doing drag,
or wanting to do it, because Ithis is why I'm kind of getting
(41:35):
into it I need one year.
I've said to myself I just needone year to learn everything.
Lose theose, the weight that Ineed to lose, get back to where
I need to be fitted for myself,take care of my face, take care
of everything.
Learn how to do makeup.
I can't say I don't know how todo makeup, because when I did
that photo when James had passedaway and I did half of his
beast, I was really fuckingimpressed, like how well I did
(41:57):
that.
Just the lining.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I'm just like bro, you can do it like that's what
I'm saying when people are likewell, I can't, you can.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
No, I know I can't, I can, but what I have issues is
I'm having issues blendingproperly.
You know everybody has that.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Yeah, that's everybody's main complaint it's
always like you're like can youshow me?
I'm like I can't show you howto blend.
I can tell you.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
It's literally, it's also blending and getting to
know the color will like whatstuff.
So I I went online to look at acouple of color wheels that I
wanted to look at and they havelike little posters and
everything that you can do withmakeup dresses, clothes, shirts,
all of that good stuff.
So I'm just like, oh okay, soI've never gotten to know the
yeah, the color well so it's.
(42:41):
It's getting to know the colorwheel just a little bit better,
or whatnot.
Photography was another onethat I've.
I still have my photographycamera, but do I use it?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:49):
I never got like I would take photos for everybody
or for people, but I nevergotten to it like where I was
doing it for people, bitch, youknow what I mean Speaking of
which I found this fuckingamazing thing to be able to do
with.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
my camera hooks up to my cell phone or to my tablet
and I can actually see how itlooks when I take a photo.
So if it needs more lighting,if it needs adjustments, it can
just be like okay, cool, Take apicture.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
And I can do it on my phone.
Okay, hold still Three, two,one stop.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Badass.
Yeah, that is so badass.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
That is so fucking wicked like just to be able to
kind of because this is like yougot to set up the colors, the
platforms, you know, that'swhere you get to know your color
will just a little bit better,yeah, but you see, that's why I
want a house, so I can kind oflike, okay, this is what I'm
going to do, this is what I need, and this is also where I want
my own business, because if Ican get my own business just to
make and like make, people arelike hey, I need a t-shirt.
I heard y'all do customizedt-shirts.
(43:44):
Yeah, pick your pattern, that'sthere.
And what we do is I take a look, I do your measurements here
really quickly.
Once I get your shirts, I do itin bulk and you can pick as
many colors you want and this ishow much it is and this is how
many shirts and designs that youget for you and it'll fit.
And you just tell me how long,where do you want to fit it, how
much you want to do it.
(44:05):
I think I would charge a personno more than like $20 a t-shirt
just for the fabric alone,because if I have extra fabric
material missing or it's justthere laying there.
I would definitely like maketies or bow ties or make scraps
something out of it, I don'tknow, or bow ties, or make
scraps Right Something out of it, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
But that's kind of like I want to.
Like I said, it's learning somuch stuff and doing hobbies,
but I want to turn this hobbyinto an actual business.
I wouldn't mind doing this, Ijust need to sit down with it as
much as possible.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
But anytime I get home I'm just like ugh.
And then my days off I'm justlike I just don't want to do
anything.
Sometimes you do, sometimes youdon't yeah, no, I have to, but
I do need to go buy more of theum stabilizer here in a little
bit.
Yeah, I may go to somewherebecause I'm seeing the
stabilizer.
I normally would get the black,but the black's like four
(44:56):
dollars a yard.
I'm just like, how much are thewhites?
Speaker 2 (44:59):
because Because it's not going to matter, it's on the
inside.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yeah, it's on the inside, so I really don't care,
but I was on Amazon earlier.
I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
As soon as you put your fingers up.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
You already know Amazon.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
You don't even have to say anything, you don't have
to do anything.
If your fingers go up, I'm likewhat, or what did you do, or
what happened?
Speaker 1 (45:21):
what I'm, what I'm learning about amazon is that
it's great when you're trying todo small projects, because
there are some things that aresmaller, but when I'm on these
other places, like for bulk, Ithat's what I need and that's
what I want.
I want something in bulk, likeI want to get my fabric and
everything in bulk.
I want to get stuff in bulk,but I also know I need the money
to do it.
So, uh.
(45:41):
So I'm getting there, I'mslowly getting there, right, um,
but we'll see what happens.
We'll see what happens.
It's it's been just.
It's been kind of just a nicelittle journey or whatnot or
whatever, and I'm kind oflearning that it's like I have a
lot of crystals lyingeverywhere.
I was like, oh, you know what,I'll just put him in like some
pillows, like for, like obsidianor amethyst or whatnot.
(46:02):
Just, you're like, okay, I'llput some crystals or some
something in there for y'all, ify'all want it, just to kind of
like, give you some type of likea protection pillow, if you.
Yeah, you know, you tell mewhat you want and I'll throw the
crystals in there for you.
So you have it there.
So that's, uh, something thatI'm kind of doing it.
Well, that's the end of podcast.
I do appreciate y'all tuninginto the mature mischief podcast
(46:23):
and our hobbies Hashtag.
What dead hobbies do you havethat you need to resurrect again
?
Speaker 2 (46:29):
What hobbies are in your graveyard?
Speaker 1 (46:31):
No shit, don't tell me, Show me what you got.
Tell me what you got, what youreally really got.
Tell me what hobbies that youloved and you turned into a
business and now you're thrivingon it.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
I've got a whole mausoleum.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
You do have a whole fucking mausoleum.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
You know what?
I've never actually sat downand made the list I should.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
I think this, this desk here, which your desk?
Yeah, what I'm going to do isI'm going to move all the
crystals.
I think I'm going to go aheadand may just put her in the case
here.
But what I'm going to do is I'mgoing to pack up everything
already here and put it away,and then I'm going to bring the
sewing machine over here so Ihave more room.
(47:11):
But I just need to make keepthe.
I need to put the gate barrierthere so the dogs don't get to
it.
So other than that I thinkthat's what'm, because I, when I
had, when I cleared out thatdesk, when I had my meltdown,
when I cleared it out uh, it wascleared I was like, oh, and I
was like, oh, yeah, I could putthe sewing machine there.
(47:32):
That's duh and I could use alittle joy there and put
whatever I need.
So, yeah, I need to.
It's already packing time, it'salready May.
We have June, july, august.
Yeah, it's time to pack.
So here we go again.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
This is the fun part, yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
It's going to be fun.
It's going to be fun.
But, anyway, appreciate y'all.
Thank y'all.
My name is Jesse James.
I am your host.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
And I am.
Host
Jesse James
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