Max + Chris Show

Max + Chris Show

Welcome to our cutting-edge podcast where we chat with some of the most innovative and forward-thinking entrepreneurs in the commercial real estate world. From brokers and developers to startup founders and investors, we dive deep into the stories behind their successes, and explore the latest trends in the industry. Our guests don't just talk shop. We're all about bringing the realness, and we're not afraid to chop it up on different topics relating to life and business. If you're an entrepreneur looking to disrupt the status quo, or a commercial real estate professional looking for inspiration and fresh perspectives, this is the podcast for you. Our guests share their insights, challenges, and victories, and offer practical tips for navigating the world of commercial real estate. So whether you're a seasoned pro or just starting out, join us as we explore the dynamic world of entrepreneurship in commercial real estate, and discover the cutting-edge strategies and innovations that are transforming the industry.

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March 30, 2026 86 mins

From where Grand Rapids was to where it’s going this episode dives into the evolution of the city through one of its most influential developers.

Sam Cummings has spent nearly three decades preserving Grand Rapids’ history while reshaping its future. Often referred to as the city’s leading champion of urban real estate, Sam has revitalized some of the community’s most iconic and long-neglected buildings including pioneerin...

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 In this episode, we sit down with the one and only Shari Feldman, celebrating 20 years as Executive Director of Commercial Alliance of Realtors West Michigan (CARWM). Shari shares her journey, her leadership philosophy, and how CARWM has evolved into one of the most influential commercial real estate organizations in the country. We dive into market trends, the power of collaboration, and what’s next for brokers, developers, and t...

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January 5, 2026 84 mins

Join T.J. Ward and Andrew Gyorkos of Kalamazoo Commercial Real Estate for a focused conversation on Southwest Michigan’s commercial market. With deep experience in brokerage, leasing, investment, and development, they share practical insights on deal structuring, market trends, and what investors and business owners need to know to succeed in today’s environment.

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In this episode, we sit down with multi-unit franchisee Charlie Lerg to explore the real-world journey of owning and operating national and regional brands—including Subway, Game Day Health, and Detroit Wing Company. Charlie unpacks the challenges and rewards of running a diverse franchise portfolio, what it takes to scale, how to manage brand expectations, and why local execution still matters most. If you're curious about fr...

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July 1, 2025 85 mins

In this episode, we sit down with Richard App from Downtown Grand Rapids Inc. to talk about the evolution of downtown GR, current initiatives shaping the city’s future, and how public-private collaboration is driving vibrant, growth. Whether you’re a local business owner, developer, or urban enthusiast, this conversation offers insight into what’s next for the heart of Grand Rapids.

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In this episode, we sit down with Garry VonMyhr, CEO Founder of Tech Defenders, to trace his journey from humble beginnings to leading a fast growing tech company. Garry shares how he built a business at the his interest in real estate, and his take on the current economic landscape. Whether you're in tech, real estate, or just hungry for entrepreneurial wisdom, Garry offers sharp insights and candid reflections that will leav...

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April 8, 2025 80 mins

The Future is Here with Angela Bono explores the intersection of commercial real estate and artificial intelligence. Hosted by Angela Bono of Bradley Companies, this podcast delves into how AI is transforming deal-making, market analysis, and client interactions. Join Angela as she shares real-world insights on how she integrates AI into her work and where the technology is headed in the industry. Whether you're a real estate ...

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Join us as we dive into the fascinating journey of Marcel Burgler, a developer and commercial real estate broker specializing in multifamily projects. From his roots in Holland to his transformative work in Grand Rapids, Marcel shares his story of navigating new opportunities, building thriving communities, and shaping the real estate landscape. Discover how his international perspective and passion for development have fueled his ...

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In this episode of "The Chris and Max Show," we sit down with Brian Klaver, Chief Lending Officer at United Bank of Michigan. Join us as we dive into the latest trends in lending, the challenges facing the banking industry, and Brian’s insights on how to navigate the current economic landscape. Whether you're a financial professional or just curious about the world of banking, this episode is packed with valuable inf...

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August 13, 2024 92 mins

Join Max and Chris as they sit down with Tiffany Szakal, the dynamic owner and broker of The Local Element. In this insightful episode, Tiffany shares her journey in the real estate industry, offers expert advice on navigating the local market, and reveals the secrets behind her successful brokerage. Whether you're a seasoned real estate professional or just curious about the industry, this episode is packed with valuable insi...

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Join Max and Chris as they sit down with Anne Ficeli, Certified Property Manager (CPM) and leader at PURE Real Estate Management. Anne shares her extensive knowledge on property management, discusses the latest trends in the real estate market, and offers invaluable advice for both new and seasoned real estate professionals. Don’t miss this episode packed with expert insights and practical tips for navigating the dynamic world of r...

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July 2, 2024 89 mins

Welcome to "Born to Be in Real Estate" with Drew Born! Join Drew, a seasoned broker at Remax Commercial, as he shares his wealth of experience and insights from the real estate world. Dive into captivating stories from his past and explore exciting future endeavors in the industry. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just curious about real estate, this podcast is your go-to source for inspiration and knowledge...

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Welcome to "Focus on the Process," the Max and Chris Show featuring Josh Smith, Co-Founder of Fulton Group. In this episode, spotlighting The Fulton Group, a premier property management business in Grand Rapids, MI. With over 250 top-quality rental homes, their vibrant team is dedicated to a superior resident experience. Discover the purposeful process behind their success and commitment to making Grand Rapids a fantastic...

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Discover the legacy of Bill Bowling, a powerhouse in commercial real estate. With a track record of building and leading successful brokerage firms and developing impactful commercial real estate projects, Bill's visionary approach has left an indelible mark on the industry. Join us as we explore the highlights of his career, that define his legendary status in the world of commercial real estate. 

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December 19, 2023 47 mins

Join industry leaders Kevin VanHaitsma, Trent Wieringa, Chris Prins, and Max Grover in a dynamic panel discussion moderated by Jordan Wenzel. Explore the insider stories and strategies behind their successful journeys in starting and thriving in commercial real estate. Gain valuable insights, tips, and practical advice on navigating the challenges, building a solid foundation, and achieving success in the competitive world of comme...

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Join us for an inspiring journey through the evolution of Ada Village with Liz Haan, Marketing Director of Baton Collective and the creative force and owner behind Croft Haus. In this podcast episode, Liz shares the captivating story of how Ada Village transformed into a vibrant community of elegance and style. From her role in Baton Collective to the creation of Croft Haus, a retail haven catering to the adventurous, the modern, t...

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October 31, 2023 163 mins

In this episode, hosts Max and Chris sit down with Nate Heyboer, a seasoned entrepreneur and real estate developer, and the owner of DHE, a leading plumbing and mechanical contracting firm serving West Michigan since 2005.

Join us for an engaging conversation as Nate shares his insights into entrepreneurship, real estate development, and the construction industry. From the challenges he faced to the innovative projects tha...

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October 17, 2023 113 mins

Join us in this episode of 'Chick-fil-Cast' as we sit down with Kristen and Drew, the passionate owners of Chick-fil-A 54th Street & US-131. Discover the secrets behind their success, from crafting delicious meals to building a welcoming community hub. Learn about their commitment to quality, service, and giving back. Whether you're a fan of Chick-fil-A or aspiring entrepreneur, this episode offers a glimpse into...

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September 5, 2023 124 mins

Welcome to "Flipping Dreams with Calvin Beeke," the podcast that unveils the captivating world of home flipping in Michigan. Calvin Beeke, brings us through the highs and lows of flipping 150 homes a year. Join us to learn how dreams turn into stunning realities, one property at a time. Whether you're a real estate enthusiast or an aspiring flipper, this is where inspiration meets transformation.

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Welcome to a special episode of "Unraveling the Tape of Howies Hockey" Today, we're sitting down with the visionary behind Howie's Hockey Tape, Max Sieplinga. We delve into the journey of this iconic brand from concept to its current global presence. Join us for insights, anecdotes, and a conversation that goes beyond the tape and into the heart of the game we all love.

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