May's Republican primary. Ep. 24

Jimmy and Andrew discuss the current political candidates for May's 2024 primary.

Intro music by Upstate - How Far We Can Go

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everybody, welcome to the MC Squared podcast.
This is episode 24.
I'm joined tonight by myco-host, jimmy McKenna, and my
name is Andrew McNeil.
Let's go, let's go.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
All the time to learn .

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Okay Ready, welcome back everybody.
Okay, cool, yeah.
So, jimmy, it's been a littlewhile since we talked.
I think we do this every time.
I say it's been a while becauseit has A couple weeks.
It always is, it's been threeweeks actually, but when you're
binging on MC Squared podcastsyou don't realize, and probably
don't even care, that it's beenweeks.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
No, because it's actually been seconds between
the last videos that they'vewatched.
Most of our 44 listeners.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yes, well, we actually have quite a few
listeners.
The subscribers are a littlelower, but that's all good.
So 44 subscribers on YouTube?
Yeah, we have generally on theYouTube channel.
Well, we, we've had some, someepisodes.
Over a hundred people watchingthem, yeah, uh, but most of them
what do you say about?
50 or 60, 70 ish is prettysolid usually.

(01:14):
And then, um, I actually takethe live, the, the um, the video
, uh, before it's uploaded toYouTube and I put it directly on
my X?
Uh timeline and I generally get70 or 80 impressions off of
that too.
So I don't know how many peoplewant, you know, watch it or not

(01:34):
, but then I I pin it to myprofile because I I'll text
quite a bit.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
And it keeps it up there.
You know I'll keep it on thereuntil I bring up the next one.
We it on rumble.
We get a few views there, uh,and again we're just kind of
start starting on some of theseother sites, um.
So, you know, youtube's theking, but also want to kind of
be, um, uh, diversified a littlebit because, uh, if you've

(02:01):
listened to our podcast,sometimes, sometimes we'll say
politically incorrect things.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I mean, it's the truth, but it doesn't matter,
we're not big enough for YouTubeto find us.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
No no, and we'll get big enough and then they'll
censor us and shut us down, andI want to have some alternate
media.
We'll have to go to Rumble, butanyway, well, did you?

Speaker 3 (02:17):
tell them what our plan is.
No, what's our plan?
Talking about this, so and sowhen I say it on on on air, then
we have to do it, but we'relooking to try to get 50 subs,
yeah, on youtube so that we cango live on youtube right, and
andrew had a really cool ideayeah, I hate these ideas.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
I they come out of my mouth.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
They do and you're gonna do, but I'll hold you to
it because I think it's kind ofgood.
Sometimes the best ideas comeup just but he wanted to do some
live stuff at the Vigo CountyFair this year.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, and actually if we do, if we can get our mobile
, if we're able to do live andwe can kind of get our mobile
set up working, we could do someat some of these political
events and all these politicalcandidates love to talk.
Anyway, I mean you know they'dbe glad to, but honestly, I

(03:11):
think that live would be great.
We'd have a lot more bloopers,for sure, but we could talk
about current events, things asthey're happening, and give our
thoughts on it.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
I think that might be a little more interesting, i't
know be fun to do.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
well, I think it's more interactive because I know
that once you start getting moreof the live than people can
comment and we can watch, we canhave our producer and drew yes,
drew mcneil we have ourproducer yes, the drewski yep.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Comment on it, or or let us know what people have
said much more interactive, andthat we usually, uh, film these
in the evening.
If you're watching us onInstagram right now, we're doing
that live.
Yeah, but in the evening whenpeople may be available, have
their phone, whatever you'redoing in the evening after
dinner, so we might be able toget, since our timing's right,
we might be able to get somepeople watching live.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
It'd be great to do it on all platforms, like
Facebook, also, my ex.
All I got to do is or Twitter,whatever I can't.
I have always say Twitter, butit's, it's X, um, and
simultaneously do it live, it'dbe fun I do.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
I'm a little hesitant about it.
We do get lit up, not a littlelike a little bit, because, uh,
we're old, yeah, that'sinteresting.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
So we've had some great comments.
We've had some interestingcomments.
Yeah, we have been calledincredibly out of touch old men.
I love it, I kind of wear thatwith a badge of honor,
especially considering thesource was some 35 year old
still living at home with theirparents on the couch playing a

(04:47):
video game.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
We don't know that for sure.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Oh, that's what you told me.
I well, we're able to say that.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
I was trying to make you feel better about it.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
I'm trying to make you feel better.
Yeah, we should get out oftouch, old Ben.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, we should change it from MC Square Podcast
.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, yeah, out of touch, yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Well, we're still working on trying to get a Gen
Zer in here to explain some ofthe current slang, so we'll see
if that happens.
It may happen tonight, may not,I don't know.
We'll see if it happens at somepoint.
I think it would be funny.
It would be funny.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
So we're going to talk a little about upcoming
primary.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, let's do it.
Okay, cool.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
So um early voting starts next week, so when this
video is released, the very dayit's released, which will be, uh
, tuesday, uh, early votingstarts for this, for this
primary, I agree, uh, but Idon't even know if we're going
to make it past the eclipse.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
No, I'm joking.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
That'll be the day after the eclipse, right, Right
the day after the eclipse andAndrew is secretly sipping his
water coffee over there, hopingit's going to be cloudy.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
I am not hoping.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yes you are, yes you are.
I'm not hoping.
Oh, it's going to be cloudy.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
But I would just.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
I'm like If it's going to be cloudy, but I would
just.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
I'm like, If it's cloudy, I'm going to hear you
laughing out loud.
Well, it's this massive dealand you just watch.
God put a thunderstorm all theway down the line.
Just follows it all the way.
You just I don't know.
I don't want to ruin anybody'sfun.
It is pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
It'll be amazing.
Even if it's cloudy, it'llstill get dark.
Yeah, and when?
This?

Speaker 1 (06:22):
obviously is released .
It's already happened, so theworld may have ended and then
this just never gets put outthere.
But it is crazy.
People are like the governmentsare telling people to stay home
, get food and water for days.
I'm like preparing for thishuge natural disaster.
It's really kind of odd.
Why do you think they're doingthat?

Speaker 3 (06:46):
I don't want to get that I don't.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Are they building up a hype, or they?
Or because this can't possiblybe?
We have had eclipses for forsince the beginning of the world
is this?

Speaker 3 (06:55):
is this the first eclipse since the big c word
coven?
Yeah, so what's?
Well, they found out that theycan use things to get reactions
out of us Right and play us inways that they love.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Well, all they got to tell us is that to stay safe
from the eclipse, you've got towear a mask, and you'll see
people slapping.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Well, they're, they're getting, and I totally
get the whole eye protectionthing, but man, they're getting
hot and heavy on that the wholeeye protection thing but man
they're getting hot and heavy onthat again.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Well, no, the eye protection, oh the eye
protection.
The eclipse, I'm like are youserious?

Speaker 3 (07:29):
no, we stopped doing mask, we're just doing eye
protection now yeah well, we'dbe okay.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Oh, I sold quite a few glasses, so well, that's
okay.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Then, if you're as long as long as you get your, I
support this message.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
As long as you get, I support this message get your,
get your like, whatever by theyou're listening to this you
won't be able to get it anyway.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
They're going to be laying on the streets like
tootsie rolls after a parade.
Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
But it's a great.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
No, not now.
Yeah, it's pretty exciting.
Did I ever tell you the storyof my wife's family when they
had an eclipse that they were toget up and see in the middle of
the night?
When they had an eclipse thatthey were to get up and see in
the middle of the night?
You ever hear this story?
Oh my gosh.
Oh, it's a great story, so I'lltell this one, just because oh
yeah, so it was.
My wife was in high school.
This was a long time ago.
I don't want to tell you howlong ago.

(08:15):
That was a very long time agoand anyway, we're the same age,
so that's not very nice.
Very nice Anyway.
So they all got up at like 2 or3 in the morning and they all
go out and they're like amazedbecause they're watching the
moon disappear.
Lunar eclipse yeah it's a lunareclipse in the middle of the
night and they're super excitedand they're watching and they

(08:36):
notice after a while nothing'sreally changing.
It's kind of weird, so they goto bed.
They thought that was prettycool, they got to see it and the
next night somebody happens tojust kind of look out the window

(08:59):
and the same thing is there andthey all got out and stared at
a street lamp.
Seriously same thing as thereand they all got out and stared
at a street lamp.
Seriously, it wasn't.
Yeah, they thought it wasn't aneclipse happening, it was the.
It was a street light on thestreet that they'd lived at
forever, that they there'salways been there did they not

(09:21):
go out after night and see thatstreet light?

Speaker 3 (09:23):
I'm sure?

Speaker 1 (09:23):
they had.
But two in the morning, they'reall tired, they're just,
they're all excited so theymissed it, but it probably was
in the other side of the of theuh of the sky, and they just
weren't even looking in theright area.
They were literally staring ata street.
Yeah, anyway, so be careful, uh, make sure that you're actually
staring in the right direction.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, it's not a street light.
I thought you were going to saythey got up at 2 o'clock in the
morning for a solar eclipse.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
No, that would have been funny too.
That would have been reallyfunny to trick your kids to do
that.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Hey guys, we're going to get up at 2 o'clock in the
morning.
You can tell them it's likenoon.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yes, this is how dark it gets at, okay, anyway, yeah,
all right, early voting isgoing to be open on tuesday, so
so, uh, let's okay.
You, what do you want to talkabout?
Because we, obviously we have apresidential, uh primary coming
up uh, first tuesday in mayhere in indiana.

(10:17):
Um, the only person that'sgoing to be on the ballot, or
should be on the ballot, isdonald trump.
He's already won.
He's already won.
I mean, it's over, and sothere's not a lot of drama with
that.
You've got the governor's race.
There's actually a lot ofcandidates for governor here in
Indiana.
The leading, by all indications, the leader of that field, is

(10:45):
Mike Braun, who is currently USSenator.
Jim Banks, who is a congressman, is running for US Senate to
replace Mike Braun.
He is also unopposed onthe—he's unopposed, not also,
he's unopposed on the ballotVery conservative guy.
Mike Braun is, I think, far andaway is leading.

(11:08):
I don't think it's close, butaccording to the polls and who
knows if you can trust those allthat much but Suzanne Crouch is
coming in a distant second, andthen all of the other guys.
All of them are just kind ofbunched in there around anywhere
between 6%, six, seven percent,uh and less.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah curtis hill.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
He was a, so curtis hill is is is an interesting
story because of all thecandidates that closest, the
closest to my views and mypolitics, the closest to
conservative values, is CurtisHill, without a doubt, and when

(11:57):
he won election as the stateattorney general, he was the
number one vote getter in thehistory of Indiana, huge support
.
He had a scandal probably threeyears into his first term and
the politicians smelled blood inthe water and he was replaced
at a convention not at, not atthe ballot box, but he was

(12:19):
replaced at a convention by therepublican party.
Todd rakita took over and ToddRokita ran and successfully won.
Todd Rokita is up this time andhe won't be on the primary
ballot but he will be at theconvention that we hope to go to
in June.
So Curtis Hill, very articulate, does a great job and actually,

(12:42):
as Attorney General general,was solid, just really strong
fighter.
But because of that um,controversy and it was, it was
pretty bad honestly yeah yeah,um, it's inexcusable.
Unfortunately, his stock hasdropped precipitously and it is
just a huge uphill battle.

(13:02):
And it's very disappointingbecause I would love for him to
have.
He would have been a great,great candidate.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
But anyway, that's the consequences.
Curtis Hill I recognize,suzanne Crouch and obviously
Mike Braun.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
But, there's.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
what is that?
Six Republicans running and oneDemocrat?
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
And Jennifer McCormick is running on the
Democrat side.
She's an absolute train wreck.
She is a complete communistwithin the education realm and
was once a Republican, and I'mnot parsing words with her at
all.
There are people in theeducation world that are
Republicans like her becauseshe's quote education and that
drives me nuts because her viewsare just completely left wing

(13:46):
radical.
It's really totally.
Would be an absolute disasterfor her to become governor, so
yeah, Well, what else we have?

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Oh, locally.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Well, let's, let's go , let's, let's pop down to the
congressional race.
So in the eighth district wehave a Congressman, larry
Bouchon, who's been Congressmanfor I think it's like eight
terms.
That could be wrong.
I mean, it's been a long time.
Eight terms, that's probably.
Yeah, it's probably been close,I don't know.
Anyway, he's been.

(14:19):
He's been Congressman for since2010,.
I think so, not that many terms.
Anyway, for since 2010,.
I think so, not that many terms.
Anyway, he resigned, or didn'tresign, but he announced that he
would not be running forre-election right around
Christmas time.
So these candidates have hadalmost no real time to run for
this seat.

(14:39):
And there are a ton of them.
And I think it was kind of ahuge disadvantage, because when
I ran for Congress in thisdistrict, obviously I was not
well known.
I was a no name.
Even after running, I'm still.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
But anyway, Because of the podcast you have a name
now.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, oh, there we go .
I started running in October ofthe year, before the primary,
so I started running in Octoberand, honestly, could have been
running even earlier.
So these folks haven't evengotten off the ground to like
February and already we're nowvoting.
So it's a really really short,tight window.

(15:20):
I've got a sign for one uptoday, but most of them don't
have signs out.
I mean, it's just a huge.
It's 21 counties in thisdistrict and so it's just a bear
.
So we've got.
I think Hostetler is running.
He's got name recognition.

(15:40):
He was the congressman before,but do you remember him, john?

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Hostetler yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, you and I would remember him.
None of the new voters rememberhim.
It's been a very long timesince he was congressman.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
And he's more south.
I mean this district isessentially what Vigo straight
down the yeah, so we gotVermillion, I think there is
Fountain County all the way down, all the way down to Evanston.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, yeah, uh, fountain county, oh, all the way
down, all the way down there.
So, yeah, yeah, so, uh, I thinkhosteller, I think mark messmer
, who is the uh whip in the, uh,the state senate.
He's a state senator, uh, downfrom jasper area, um, and I
think that, um, I think thatchristy risk who's run?
Uh, this is now her third timerunning.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
I think she's got some name recognition.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Mark Messmer's got a solid area and I think John
Hostetler's got somewhat namerecognition.
I think those are the three,honestly, Among all the other
ones that are running, I don'tsee that anyone else is going to
have much of a shot.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
This Richard Moss.
He runs for all the time, right.
So, richard Moss, he has not.
This flyer has shown my placeall the time, yes, but he's not
Lots of campaigns.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
So he's a doctor.
He's in the same area thatMessmer is in.
He's from Jasper.
He's a doctor down there.
He did run in the 9th Districtin Bloomington's congressional
district a couple years ago.
He moved across the line to beable to do it, Because you can
run for Congress People don'tknow this.
You can run for any districtyou want and not live there.

(17:12):
You just have to move there.
If you win, it's totally true.
Yeah, there's the residencyrequirements Permanent residence
.
You have to get a permanentresidence within certain.
The law is really crazy.
So that's what happened withTrey Hollingsworth in the 9th
District several years ago.
He's from Tennessee or downsouth there.
He figured out there was anopening in that district and

(17:33):
there were millionaires.
He went and basically boughthimself a congressional district
and then moved there and he wasactually a great congressman.
So I mean I'm like, oh, but thenhe was really good.
So then you're like, well, okay, but he went and basically
bought himself one.
So we're going to have to takea break and we will be right
back alright, welcome back.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yeah, welcome back everybody, and don't welcome
back if you've been watchinglive, because we're shooting
live on Instagram and you gotall those cool outtakes and the
things that we said.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I don't think we told people we were shooting live on
Instagram in the show but, butobviously you can't go there now
, but we normally record andyou'll never know unless you're
following us on Instagram.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
What is our Instagram ?
It is MC squared dot podcast.
Okay, mc squared dot podcast.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Okay, yeah, yeah.
So go to our Instagram channel.
Follow us there.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
I think we're going to do this live everyone now.
So we usually do them onThursday, yeah, and then video,
if you want to go to X, you canalso follow me.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Uh, and I'm going to start.
I'm not this week.
I'll post the video, but I will, I'm going to do it live next,
and so my handle is at Andrew TMcNeil, 73.
What's the T stand for?

Speaker 3 (18:51):
My middle name.
Okay, my middle name.
It stands for my middle name,it's an initial.
Andrew the McNeil.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
That would be great that would be awesome, yeah, but
that's not it.
No, do you know what my middleinitial is my middle name is you
do, don't you?
Because I had to put it on aCanada thing.
Yes, you did.
Yeah, I know it.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
What do you think of that name?
I love it, what I love itReally.
Yeah, there was a character init's Tobias Toby.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
It's not Toby, it's Tob, I think it's nice.
I've never liked it.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
I think it's nice that you have it.
I don't think I would like tohave it, but I think it's nice
that you have it that's right,there we go.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
So again go to X or Twitter or whatever it's.
At Andrew T McNeil 73, I've got2200 followers.
I send stuff every once in awhile.
I do a lot of retweeting, so Imean not a ton but I do you know
, so you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Do you comment when you retweet?
Do you comment?
I do, sometimes I do.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
I'll do a quote like oh my gosh, look at this, or
whatever that's not bad At leastyou're like yeah, I don't just
retweet retweet, retweet, andthat'd be annoying, but, but,
but if you, if you're familiarwith X at all, it's just a
constant stream, so it's it'snot like that ever clogs up your
timeline anyway.
Okay, All right, On to uh.
So what are we going to talkabout now?
Not not as much concerned aboutenvironment as it is, I think,

(20:31):
ruining uh, uh you know,drinking water or being a hat?
I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
I put CO2 in my.
I like bubbly water, I know, Iknow, it's like carbonated water
.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
CO2.
Is it just carbon?
A carbon uh recycling place orsomething?

Speaker 3 (20:46):
I don't know way.
I have a little.
There is something because I,because of my, what I do in
respiratory therapy, I do talk alittle about earth science when
we're discussing, like, how thebody breathes and stuff.
I'll give you some numbers, okay, let me give you some
percentages, okay, no, I'm justkidding.
Okay, so I'm gonna give you.
I'm gonna give you, uh, threepercentages 78, 78, 21, and less

(21:13):
than 1%, less than 1%.
Okay, so there's threedifferent percentages.
They will equal 100%.
Okay, what do you think?
The air around us is made up of?
78% of what is around us.
Nitrogen yeah, good job Drew.
So Drew knew this.
Nitrogen.
Wow, interesting thing.
Interesting thing.
Nitrogen yeah, good job drew.

(21:33):
So drew knew this nitrogen.
Wow, interesting thing.
Interesting.
A lot of people, or youngstudents sometimes will say
that's co2 because the co2 thinghas been pushed really hard.
It's not no, it's nitrogen'saround 78, 21 is oxygen.
Yeah, we need that right lessthan one percent is carbon no2.
It has some.
There's actually more argon inthe air around us than there is

(21:55):
CO2.
Wow, it's such a low percentage.
And so I mean I do get that youknow, like deforestation, but I
really that you know that thesetrees use carbon dioxide,
output oxygen.
We use oxygen, output carbon.
That whole little cycle there,yeah, but here's the whole

(22:17):
situation.
I mean the earth's sustainingitself and it's sustained itself
for a long time and it willcontinue to.
I mean I would be moreconcerned about like continue to
.
Um, I mean I, I would be moreconcerned about, like other

(22:37):
things being injected into thesoil.
Right then, co2, it's a gas yeahI mean, I don't know, I guess
it can be frozen.
Yeah, because that's actuallythat's less.
That's a dry ice, right?
Yeah, that's, that's solid CO2.
Yeah, but as soon it goes froma solid state to a gas state
with no liquid state in themiddle.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
It's really cool, but I mean it's a gas being
injected.
I just don't see that there'slike the worst gases in the
world that come from the centerof the earth.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
That are coming up and radon and all that kind of
stuff, and we're about CO2.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Disappointing is you can't trust the scientific
community anymore becausethey're so politicized.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
I know, and you bring the term CO2 in, it just scares
people.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah Well, we want to be carbon neutral.
Well, that's a dumb thing tosay.
That's actually a very stupid.
If we were carbon neutral,carbon neutral Cease to exist
which is kind of what they'rewanting.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Carbon is the building block of.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, yeah, it's not poisonous, is it?

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Carbon no.
Yeah, and see, that's the thingthey want you to think that
this is a poison.
Every one of our atoms is madeout of carbon, usually as one of
the holes of it, but that'sokay.
Yeah, but anyway, carbondioxide, I'm not super concerned
.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
I think it does scare people a little bit and I think
they're not happy with the feellike that Whatever safety tests
were done were not transparentenough.
I know they had some publicmeetings.
People feel like and I thinkthis is fair oh, you had your
meetings, that's great Cause youwere required to, but you were
going to do it anyway, so itdidn't change anything and most
of the time it is that way.

(24:16):
Um, maybe we should havesomebody on it's an expert about
it.
You know we could have ifpeople are more people are
interested in it.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, I mean, the thing is with carbon dioxide
it'll be.
It's gone as fast as here.
I don't think we're gonna bringout a measurement and see it
changes actual road indianaradioactive waste.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
That would be a different story, because a lot
of that stuff doesn't go awayfor a thousand years where are
they doing this again?

Speaker 3 (24:43):
it's in west tarota.
Oh well, like I said during thebreak, okay, it's been some
times.
In the river bottom there'sthere's enough old, rusty rims
and tires.
Yeah, that you could build a.
I don't know, you could build awhole playground out of that

(25:05):
stuff if you tore those tires up.
Yeah, check out the riverbottoms, man.
I mean, I think the best thingto do would probably be to get
teams together.
We're going to clean up theriver bottoms, if you really
wanted to feel like you'remaking a difference.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Oh that's true, that's.
That's tough work.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Have you ever seen any of thosedivers when we were?

Speaker 2 (25:25):
watching yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
They dive in and getting all the junk from the
bottom.
Yeah, or all the junk from thebottom.
Yeah, Just over there by theFairbanks Park we were watching
them bring stuff up.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
There's a hole.
There's a hole right downstreamfrom the ramp.
There's a hole there andthere's all kinds of stuff yeah.
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Okay.
So what else we got?
I know that hopefully we can.
You know we're not going to.
We can't talk about what'swhat's happening literally as
we're, as we're shooting here,isu is in an NIT championship
game and we are we are rootingfor them.
We're hoping they do reallywell.
That's really exciting forTerre Haute.

(26:03):
I don't think I don't think inthe NIT tournament it's ever
happened for ISU.
I think with Larry Bird and BobHeaton back in 79, that was
that was NCAA right, I thinkthey were in the big one.
Yeah, yeah.
So but they're, they've donereally really good there.
They're really good this year.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
I hope those, I hope all the kids stay.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, well, that's.
You know.
I had a conversation with apastor friend of mine and he he
wanted us to, you know, maybetalk about that, the transfer
portal and these guys gettingmoney in college.
And I'm like, well, you'regoing to have to have somebody
on here that knows what they'retalking about.
So I know that sometimes itsounds like I don't have a clue

(26:45):
what I'm talking about.
I like to limit it to thingsthat I feel at least confident
that I know something, at leastenough to be dangerous.
And on this issue I only have ageneral free market idea on it.
I have thought for years thatthe college athletes, the big

(27:06):
schools, your quarterbacks, yourstar players, were getting
ripped off royally because theschools were making a killing
off of them and they couldn'teven take an endorsement from a
local car dealership, theycouldn't even do a commercial
for them and take any money.
Now they've changed all thatand I guess these guys are
making huge money in college.

(27:28):
Isn't that kind of what we'repreparing these young people for
in college?
Isn't that kind?
I mean, jimmy, look, isn't thatkind of what we're preparing
these young people for incollege is to enter the world of
business or enter the world ofcommerce.
What is wrong with a starquarterback, say, getting a
several million dollars fromendorsement deals while they're

(27:52):
in college?
What's wrong with that?
Cause they've changed that.
Now they're allowing that.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
I don't know if I, I don't know if I have enough of
an opinion, but you said, yousaid something like a transfer
portal.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Well, no they've got this this where they can just
transfer out from school toschool to school and they go to
bigger dollars.
So get, they go to like asmaller school.
They, they get, uh, they getnotoriety.
They transfer out to a biggerschool with a nice big paycheck
for endorsements going toanother college and they're
making it easier for them to dothat so where's the money?

Speaker 3 (28:23):
so it's kind of killing the smaller school.
So where does the money comefrom for that?
Is that like alumniassociations?

Speaker 1 (28:28):
no, no, it's from bit from.
Like you know, n Nike or I'mnot saying Nike does it.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
No, but when they transfer these out, they
transfer to, and a psychologistcan't offer them.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
No, I don't think the colleges offer them.
Yeah right, yeah, I know, butyou've got endorsement deals
from, I don't know, localbusinesses or somebody trying to
, or even a national chain, ifyou're a nationally known
athlete so if nike let's say, incase nike would sponsor you,
right, nike's gonna want you toplay for iu, not isu well, there

(29:01):
you go.
I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, they'regonna want you to be on tv, so
the fans of these smallerschools are, or the, the
communities of the smallerschools, or feel like they're
getting ripped off and killedand all that kind of stuff.
So again, I don't know enoughto have a good opinion one way
or the other.
I do think it's a positive thatthe schools that were raking it

(29:21):
in by the millions and thesekids would get kicked out.
They would lose everything ifthey were found to have had
money slipped underneath thetable a car, and they always did
too.
They always you know a coach,the table, a car, and they
always did too.
They always, you know somebody,a coach would give them a car,
somebody would give them abrand-new car, put the title in
your parents' name or whateverit was.

(29:42):
I mean to get around the rules.
It was always happening anywayand the school was making out
like a bandit.
And then you're just like whatif this poor kid who's fantastic
in college, tremendousmoney-making potential, breaks a
leg or a knee and doesn't evenhave that pro career, and then

(30:04):
that opportunity's passed themby?
I don't know.
I just think it makes sensethat if they can make that money
in the free market, that theyshould be allowed, to a certain
extent, to do it.
I think it's just possiblyhurting some of the smaller
schools.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
So I think it'd be awesome if they were able to
make that money, if they wouldall change their major in
college to suit something thatwould be more appropriate for
what they have like managingmoney yeah I mean, that might
you know be better as a societyif they manage the money Well, I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
It's true, it's true, anyway, yeah, so we should have
somebody on talk about that.
So, anyway, I feel like thelast podcast folks, if you'll
look back and you'll see.
So this is episode 24.
If you look at episode 23, Ifeel like you know, sometimes
you can take I have this flyer Ihand out with on my sales calls

(30:57):
.
It has my face on it and I'lltell folks that if you have a
problem with mice or you need tokeep, you know, rodents away,
sometimes you just put thisflyer up and it'll scare them
away.
We had a picture of Barack Obamaon the on the thumbnail of the
YouTube video and I just feellike there were folks who maybe

(31:17):
wanted to hear the podcast.
You wanted to watch what I hadto say, but you just couldn't
bring yourself to click a videowith the face of Barack Obama on
it, and I understand your pain.
I do.
I understand your pain, but itis kind of worth listening to.
It's an interesting perspective.
So hopefully you haven't hadanything for this current
election, but we should actuallyprobably talk a little bit

(31:38):
about what do you think is goingto happen to this country.
I mean, what if?
What if Donald Trump does notwin?
Oh well, I mean I, I reallythere's a lot of folks that are
listening and probably goingyeah, I don't want him to win.
You know, I don't like the, Idon't like the dementia patient
in the white house, but I reallycan't stand that guy.
So he's so rude, he's so youknow, ragged, docious ragged,

(32:01):
docious and what else.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Um, he's not civilized.
Was it right?
Vote for civility.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, so yeah, yes, vote for civility.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
I think it.
I just hope that the true votescome out.
That's truth is all we want,right?
That's all we seek is truth,and I just I don't any deception
at all if even in the smallestamount is enough to break so

(32:32):
many people, and so I reallyjust want truth, and I think a
lot of people are that way too.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
If we legitimately lose an election, then so be it
yes yes, we want to know wherewe're at.
Yes, but I feel like the lastelection, I feel pretty strongly
it was completely stolen.
There was and even todaythere's still more stuff coming
out I mean just absolutelyrigged election in Georgia.
Michigan was a disaster,arizona was.

(33:03):
I mean, this stuff was justawful.
And who gave the order for themall to stop counting at once?
At what was it?
11 o'clock at night?
They just all stopped.
Trump was way ahead.
They all stopped.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
We just want truth.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
I mean, that's what it comes down to.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
We just just want it to be a true election.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
I mean, that's the American people deserve, is that
it's well I don't know if we do, I mean I think essentially we
have to have it or we ceasebeing a free people completely.
If we don't have elections thatcount, if there's a candidate
that the establishment decides,this person is so bad, we can't

(33:44):
let the American people pickthis person.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
We're in a terrible place and the establishment is
the most.
They're so unattached anddetached from what regular
people do every day and I thinkeverybody can agree with that,
but we sit back and we let themmake decisions, and they want to
take it out of our hands and wejust can't give it up.

(34:08):
Nope.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
No, I'm hopeful, cautiously optimistic.
I think, um, I think Trump isnot going to be um like, he's
not, like.
He's not the answer for ourcountry, in the sense of Trump
wins and everything goes, goesback to where it used to be.
But if Trump loses, we are inbig, big trouble, Because at

(34:34):
this point, if Trump loses andthe election were held today, he
would win in a landslide.
If Trump loses, it's becausewe're getting ripped off and
that is kind of to your point.
That is more scary than acandidate winning or losing the
fact that we no longer can pickour own presidents, our own
people, and that's really so.

(34:57):
Election integrity is prettyimportant, but if Trump gets in,
obviously he's a lame duckpresident.
But we've got a very shortwindow of opportunity to try to
rectify some of these losses offreedoms that we've had and try
to turn back to massdeportations.
Absolutely, they are literallygiving congressional districts

(35:19):
to California.
A lot of folks don't know this.
Based on all of the illegalimmigrants that are there,
they're getting morerepresentation.
And these folks, whether theyvote or not there's a lot of
debate that they allow them tovote.
Regardless of whether theyallow them to vote or not,
they're counting them as peoplethat they then in the census, in
the census, and they're givingthem more congressional

(35:41):
districts.
So because of illegalimmigration, the Democrat party
because that's who it benefitshas a bigger representation in
Congress than they should.
So time for mass deportations.
Let's put that in the headline.
Time for mass deportations,Andrew McNeil agrees with mass
deportations.
Well, we have to.
This has been a record.

(36:02):
Millions have poured over thatsouthern border.
And the number one demographicwe talked about this, the number
one demographic is youngChinese males.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Did you know that?
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yep, military-aged Really demographic is young
chinese males.
Did you know that we didn'ttalk about?
Oh yeah, yep, military agedreally.
Yeah, I wonder where they'recoming from.
We don't know what's going onover that southern border and
folks said, oh, it's racist, Idon't know, it's called national
security.
So yeah, anyway, all right,welcome, welcome back, folks.
We've got our last segment here, and so me and Andrea are going

(36:35):
to be delegates again to theconvention, and I only say this
because you do have to run forit in the primary.
We're all on the ballot, butwe're unopposed.
So hopefully, as long as I votefor myself, we should be good.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
But, jimmy, you and Allison were delegates once we
did delegate back in 2018.
Okay, so what was yourexperience?
I mean, here's the thing, 2018,we had younger children.
We didn't get a lot ofopportunity to do stuff, just
her and I.
Okay, so we take this, we dressnice, we drive all the way to
Evansville, we go into thisconvention with people and

(37:13):
everybody's, you know, fired upand we did that little thing.
I don't know how long it lasted, maybe a couple hours and then
we drove home and I was reallynot that excited about it.
I mean, I don't know if therewere really some.
I guess the best thing to do, Imean it's a two day thing
Usually.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
usually you stay the night, the night before and all,
all of the candidates are there.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Why do I want to sit down and talk to those people?

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Why You're such a normal person, Jimmy.
What's wrong with you?
I walked in and got some swagfrom some things.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
I remember there was some Trump stuff around then.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
So who were you voting for?
Who were the candidates?
What was the big deal Was?

Speaker 3 (37:51):
there any big deal?
We had some.
There was some, somebody wasrunning I can't remember who it
was, but there was somebody theywere voting for.
But it was like it was enoughof a yay from one side that it
was like okay, that person gotin, so you didn't actually vote.
There was no voting.
No, it was all you didn't do anactual ballot.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
No, no, actual ballots, no, no, okay, we did
the whole thing where they dothe, the call so maybe they were
unopposed.
You think they were the ballots, the folks down there were kind
of unopposed, or no no, I don'tthink they were unopposed, but
they did.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
They did something that was like the voice vote
okay and I remember being likeokay, did we vote for because I
don't know these jokers, so youwere all dressed up and it just
and I kind of felt like it was areally big deal until I got
there and I was like I don'tknow, but that's just me.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Well, it's a two-day event.
So the night before is when youget to mill around and get lots
of free food because thecandidates provide tons of food,
and you mill around and youknow you shake people's hand but
mostly you see the food isamazing.
And then I mean I like politics, I like the political world, so
you know you catch up withfolks, friends down in the
Evansville area.
I'm really looking forward tothat this time.

(38:58):
We did that again last time.
You see people from thedifferent counties and it's just
a blast.
I enjoy doing it and then ifthere's any controversy at all,
it's kind of fun.
If it's not, I could imaginethat it'd be kind of boring the
next day when you do the voting.
But we had, uh, we had likethree candidates running for
state treasurer this last timeand it went on to I think the

(39:19):
third ballot.
I mean it was, it was tight andthe guy who won, um, it was
like I don't know.
Four, four votes, six votes atthe.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Moment.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah, so it was super , super tight and it was just a
lot of fun.
I enjoy it, so looking forwardto it.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
So explain real quick though, so people know what are
you when you go to a conventionfor your party.
What are you actually?
What are you voting on?
This is different than thevoting that we do in the ballots
.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Well, yeah, it takes the place of it.
It's kind of weird because so,uh, we have a primary in May and
that picks the slate ofcandidates for the Republican
party and Democrat party.
There are certain candidatesthat the party pulls away from
that process and they pick themat the convention, so that the
so that they I don't know why,but it's in the old days they

(40:10):
didn't have primaries, it wasall done at the convention.
You would pick your governor,all of it.
So the governor is decided inthe primary, but the lieutenant
governor, like the vice governoror whatever, that person is
picked at the convention.
And that's going to be the kindof controversy this year,
because Micah Beckwith isrunning for it and nobody ever
runs for it.
Usually the governor, whoeverwins the primary, just kind of

(40:32):
says hey, this person is runningfor, but it's who they pick.
It's basically they get to picktheir own, which is fine.
In the presidential, that'swhat they do.
They pick their own VP, but inthis one, micah Beckwith is like
hey, first of all, we need tomake sure we have a conservative

(40:53):
who's balancing out whoeverbecomes the governor.
But second of all, this is howconstitutionally you say you
want it run.
That it's.
Anybody can run.
So either change the rules orI'm running.
So he's been doing actually apretty active campaign.
He's a pastor up in theIndianapolis area.
He's very well-known, veryconservative.
Heard him speak, really likedhim.
So he's officially running,which is very unheard of it's

(41:16):
like the whole establishment.
It's all like kind of so weexpect maybe Mike Braun will win
, but whoever wins is going tothen probably bring their own
person and so then you're goingto have Micah Beckwith against
whoever the governor, theparty's choice wants.
So it's going to be.
It's going to be interesting Ito see how that that I do like

(41:38):
that.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Well, I always think a balance is always really good,
yeah, any way you look at it.
And, uh, I, I think it's goodto have a balance.
Don't you know the?

Speaker 1 (41:50):
the laws of leadership tell you to surround
yourself by people who you know,think like you and whatnot, but
I well, in some ways you shouldbe unified by mission, but you
want folks in your inner circlewho, even though they think the
best of you, will tell you whatyou don't want to hear and also

(42:10):
cover your blind spots.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
But the problem is, a lot of people get that mixed up
and they pick people who are,yes, men and women, yes, that
are going to be around them andare actually subservient to them
, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
And that will kill a leader really quick.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
So I love this because this is somebody who's
not been my chum since I've beenin high school.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
That's a really good point.
You should contact his campaignand work for him.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
That's excellent.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
That's a great, that's really good.
Yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Yeah, well, it's the same reason why I said if I ever
would get elected to an officein Vigo County or Terre Haute,
you'd pick a Democrat.
Yeah, to be my second man.
I know it might sound crazy,but I think you have to have a
balance.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
I think accountability is always a good
thing, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
I have a couple people that I work with that
have different opinions than Ido on projects that I work on.
Yeah, and initially it is a bitchallenging.
It's like, ooh, this isn'tgoing to work.
What are they, nuts?
What are they thinking?
Right, what are they thinkingthis isn't gonna work?
But if you sit back for asecond and think, that makes me

(43:28):
better.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
That makes the.
That not make me sorry thatmakes the plan so much better,
right, when you have twodifferent sides to it, right?
I think we've?
We're running on one-sidedplans in this country, obviously
with the current falseadministration that's going on,
so it's a one-sided deal.
You have to have a balance.
You have to have even if youdon't agree with it.

(43:50):
You still have to have, even ifyou don't agree with it you
still have to have it there.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah, I don't know.
I think that is that's greatbecause it's it's easier said
than done.
And it's difficult when it'syou, especially if you've got a
like, a very, something is veryclose to your project, that's
very close to your heart.
It's very difficult to do that.
But if you think about it,someone else coming in with a
different perspective, if theystill have the heart for the,
for the goal, because that's key, key goal, yeah, yeah, I mean I

(44:18):
think some of what's going onin politics is the goal of of
the Marxist wing of the Democratparty is to destroy America as
we know it, so we don't haveanything in common.
I mean there's there's nomiddle ground there.
But if you've got someone on theother side of the aisle that
wants the best for America andyou have someone on our side of

(44:38):
the aisle that wants the bestfor America, if we're seeing it
from two different perspectives,you're right, it's not a bad
thing If we come at it and we golisten, we believe in free
markets and they're saying, yeah, but we need to take care of
the poor, okay, well, let's findfree market ways that we can do
that.
We're not throwing government,but it doesn't work that way.
That's not, you know,compassion, but we need to

(44:59):
listen to each other that thatis thrown out the window anymore
, because what what's actuallyhappening is an overloading of
the system.
They're trying to destroyAmerica.
That's really where we are atand folks will say, oh no,
you're trying to, you know,radicalize the other side.
You're using terms, but it's,but it is the reality of, of the
truth right now.
That's that we're.

(45:19):
We're not dealing in 1960spolitics.
We are dealing with absoluteradicals who hate how America
was founded.
They hate everything aboutAmerica up to this point and
they want to remake us radicallyand they'll steal elections to
do it.
So we are in an actually prettyscary time.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
The common goal thing is so key.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
So we have to have the common goal, you think?

Speaker 3 (45:43):
you saying that over and over is so important if
you're going to have thosedifferent views, but the end
goal has to be common.
Well, think about a church okay.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
So we all have a common goal.
In a body of believers, in achurch, in the church, we should
have the same goal, whatever itis.
It's to further God's kingdom,it's to win souls, it's to feed
the people, whatever it is yeahbut everybody's different.
We all have different callings.
We have different personalities, different perspectives,

(46:14):
different life experiences, sowe even see things through a
different filter.
We all need each otherAbsolutely.
And even if we don't see eye toeye on how someone's going
about it and this is so easy forme to do it's easy for a lot of
folks to do If you've got acalling in a certain area, that
becomes and I'm as guilty ofthis as anybody else it becomes

(46:37):
the most important thing.
Yes, and yet you've gotsomebody here on the other side
who is a believer, loves theLord, is totally called by God,
has a gift, and they don't seewhat you as the most important
thing.
What they're doing is the mostimportant thing, and I think
it's kind of what Paul talkedabout.
Listen, everybody's in the body.
You're all different.
Quit saying you don't needso-and-so.

(46:59):
Quit saying you don't need this.
You all need each other andworking together.
Sometimes what you think isn'tworth anything is actually worth
quite a lot.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
I think you win exponentially when you start
adding different people in,absolutely In those
exponentially, when you startadding different people in in
those cases, and I just thinkit's the way we were built and I
think from the model of whatwas set up in the church,
honestly that really is beingmodeled across the earth.
I mean, I'm not saying you knowthere's going to be different

(47:30):
perspectives in different ways,but when you have that common
goal is where it really allchanges and we stop fighting
about.
You know you believe this, oryou do this or you don't do this
.
Maybe that's why we struggledso long on meeting those
commissions that Jesus has laidout for us.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah, yeah, I think it could be.
So, well, folks, we've reallyenjoyed getting to spend this
time with you and, uh,especially if you've, if you
watch this live on Instagram,you've seen a lot of the behind
the scenes and we apologize forthat Ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Actually Awesome.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Uh, so, uh, we've had a good time, as always, uh, and
I'll look forward to meetingwith you guys next time Post
eclipse, yeah, post eclipse, andhopefully post ISU championship
.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Yes, that'd be cool, we're rooting for.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
ISU.
So if you want to get a hold ofus again, sending us an email,
what's the best way?

Speaker 3 (48:25):
The MC Squared podcast at gmailcom the MC
Squared podcast gmailcom.
Also Instagram.
You can message through there.
The Instagram is MC squared dotpodcast.
Mc squared dot podcast.
Follow us and then, if you turnon your notification, or even

(48:45):
if you don't, I think you'llstill get right.
You'll still get a ding when we, when we go live, go live.
And then Andrew's X, we, we'regonna do that live next time too
, yeah, and so you're gonnacatch us saying a lot of things
that we probably shouldn't say.
But that's okay, yeah,absolutely so we're real.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Thanks, everybody see ya I got a fire in me.
You're gonna set to burn OutroMusic.