July 12, 2024 • 49 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So welcome to the MC Square Podcast.
We are live.
Like we said, we were gonna beat the Vigo County Fair, and we
have to deal with a little bitof background noise because Vigo
County knows how to party right, and so this is the free stage.
We've got everything fromcountry to Elton John to
whatever you want going on.
(00:21):
And it's echoing straight intothe barn.
Yes, now this is the republicanbarn garage.
What is this?
Uh, I feel like the republicanshed the shed, and just to our
left, closer to andrew's left,is the democratic set.
That actually doesn't haveanybody in it right now and
there's a pretty good partygoing on out here, pretty much
because we brought food, butthere's a lot of people here and
(00:44):
we're super excited about it.
Yeah, um, and I'm excited to behere.
It's gonna sound weird becauseof the stuff in the background,
but this is how it works guysyeah, when we're going live.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yep, absolutely, we're on location, obviously.
As you said, in on the vigocounty fair we had a microphone
die on us yep so actually themicrophone is mine, it's the
cord so, and we've been toldthat the music's gonna stop here
shortly, so we have some pretty.
We had some pretty exciting, uh,pretty exciting guests actually
(01:15):
tonight we do um, he is hereright now but, uh, at some point
he's gonna make his way overhere.
We'll him some questions, givehim a chance to talk, but we're
going to be talking with MicahBeckwith, the Republican nominee
for Lieutenant Governor.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
That's a good way to put it, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Awesome, all right.
So, jimmy, anything excitinghappening lately.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Well, this is exciting.
The setup back here is prettyawesome.
So, if you don't notice, thereare a ton of signs behind us.
We should do our podcast hereall the time, because the sign
background is really awesome.
It is pretty cool, but no,obviously Vigo County Fairs go
on.
We're midway through it thisweek.
My kids have some things theyput in the fair.
(02:01):
We've already done the rides,we're already done with that and
we're actually going to begoing to state fair later on
this in august.
So that's exciting.
Yeah, have they done thatbefore?
Yeah, usually one of them getsa, gets a project, that goes and
then we go and ride the ridesthere, but it's, it's a cool
outing at that time of the year,uh, but it's kind of a hot one
here.
If you're here locally, it'spretty hot in this barn right
(02:22):
now.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, so folks, during while we're broadcasting,
there's a live chat.
Go watch it on YouTube.
Yeah, if you're on YouTube, youknow this.
Join the chat.
Send us your questions orcomments.
Questions for Micah Beckwithwould be great.
Hopefully, before he's finishedwith his interview, we'll be
able to ask him a couplequestions from the audience.
That would be awesome.
Yeah, yeah, and we'll be ableto ask him a couple questions
(02:44):
from the audience.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
That would be awesome , yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
And we'll have some other folks here too.
I think we're going to try toget the local chairman of the
Republican Party on and he's gotsome personal exciting news
politically that he's doing soit might be interesting to talk
about.
Yeah, that would be interesting, so anyway.
Well, there's not been a lotgoing on politically, jimmy,
since we talked last.
There's not been an absolutecollapse in the Democrat Party
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or anything, no, nothing alongthose lines.
And what's crazy.
It is a little bit, if youremember the story when we were
all growing up of the emperorhas no clothes.
It's kind of like they've beentelling themselves or trying to
tell the rest of us actuallythat oh no, he's fully clothed,
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this guy's fully clothed, he'sfully and mentally there, and
then all of a sudden there wasjust a full exposure during that
debate.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Oh my gosh.
And I mean, and the politicalpundits afterwards, they blew my
mind because the act like thiswas a surprise, like the memes
of the last three years were allnot real, like you hadn't seen
them, yes, like you hadn't seena meme yet.
I mean, we all kind of expectedit.
And unfortunately I mean reallyunfortunate for that man that
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he's being put through, thatthat's kind of the way I feel
about this.
And being stood up there, thatman, that he's being put through
that, that's kind of the way Ifeel about this.
And being stood up there.
Um, obviously I work in healthcare and uh, we have to actually
we do assessments on ourpatients to make sure they're
mentally competent, specificallyif they're in a hospital room.
They're going to fall orsomething like that, and I will
guarantee you that he would be afall risk.
He would have a bracelet on hiswrist because we'd be worried
(04:23):
about him falling in a roombecause of the for one, his gate
is way off, the Biden shuffle,the shuffle is way off, and then
, uh, being able to answerquestions, and so it's really
sad that they're putting him upthere.
It's almost like I feel likemaybe it's all planned, but I
don't want to get too crazy withthat, but it seems really odd
(04:45):
that they would put him on thatstage.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Well, I'd be interested.
Did you happen to watch thedebate?
I watched portions.
Okay, I watched the wholedebate.
I was stunned from the verysecond it started, that they let
him go out there like that.
I wasn't surprised he was likethat.
I was surprised they didn't joghim up and down.
He had a week to prepare forthat.
Yeah, and it was stunning.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I really think they could have drugged him, though,
but because they did it before.
Andrew, Remember when he did itat the State of the Union.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
He was popped up baby .
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah.
So that makes me think like sowhy not this time?
Why did you not give him?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
a chance.
I would be interested to see.
I mean, what did you think ofthe moderators, Because I
thought their behavior wastelling.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
It was.
It was painful for them.
I could tell it started gettingreally painful for all at some
point Trump was quite restrained, I believe for what he could
have unleashed, but I honestlythink he was thinking the same
thing, that all of us were like,whoa, this is a little bit
scary.
Yeah yeah, it was stunning.
And this is the guy that hasthe button for the nukes, right?
(05:53):
What?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
was really interesting to me too was the
moderators CNN.
They hate Trump and, if younotice, there wasn't any
pushback to Trump's answers onetime yeah, they didn't interrupt
him, they didn't try to badgerhim or anything noticed.
There wasn't any pushback totrump's question answers one
time.
Yeah, I mean they didn'tinterrupt him, they didn't try
to, you know, badger him oranything.
I, when that it was happening,I thought, ah, the fix, the fix
is in.
These guys have been giveninstructions.
(06:14):
That's right instructionsthat's right and they're
following orders.
This is.
This is uh deep six fight night.
Not, it has nothing to do withtrump so will it happen?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Will they put him out there again?
Does he have to go out again?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
He's supposed to be having a press conference, I
think as we speak, or here maybeat 7 o'clock, and the staff has
been calling it all day the bigboy press conference, because
they're going to let him just,you know, they're just going to
let him go, oh boy.
And if that's the case, yeah,they're.
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They're trying to eliminate himpolitically.
Um, I was talking with apolitical figure here earlier,
before we got going, and histheory was that the bidens are
just waiting out for their, fortheir check, that they're
negotiating the dollar amountthat they want really to go, and
that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It's probably a big one If you know how much money
he's taken from other countries.
It's not been small change, ohgosh no.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Well, they got to make sure Hunter's taken care of
.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
This is crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
They're partying out there.
I wish you guys could see whatwe were watching.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
We're in the back, the red-headed stepchildren.
You want to flip it around alittle bit?
Just flip it around real quick,oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Just do a little food look.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Can you see that?
It's a madhouse?
Those are all Republicans,folks.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
They're in Vigo County and they come for food
too.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Well, they do.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah.
They usually don't come toshake a politician's hand, yeah,
but if you're giving out aSam's, hot dog get on it.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
So well, we're also excited.
We haven't announced this ortalked about it at all, but this
has kind of gone on behind thescenes.
And, by the way, we're going toget another cord.
That's the first thing I'mpurchasing when I leave here.
We need to get a new cord so wecan have guests.
But we've got a new studio thatwe're going to be shooting from
soon and I'm pretty excitedabout it actually.
(08:17):
So I'm ready.
It's your house.
I know it's a secret locationJimmy.
It's a secret location, now wegotta change it.
Yes, the secret bunker, that'sright, but uh, no, I'm pretty
excited about that.
Actually, I think the backdroplooks really cool.
It's air conditioned we won't besweating control yeah, and
(08:47):
we're glistening today.
Talk with the lieutenantgovernor nominee soon, micah
Beckwith.
For those of you outside of thestate of Indiana not aware of
the story that's gone on withthis, it's pretty fascinating
because Micah is a pastor out ofNoblesville, indiana, and has
(09:10):
been a political activist andalso has his own talk show, his
podcast, which I'm sure we'llmention.
So I heard that correctly.
Sorry about that.
So Micah decided to run forlieutenant governor because
conservatives in Indiana havebeen extremely frustrated with
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the governors the Republicangovernors that we've had One in
particular, eric Holcomb for thelast eight years.
Yeah, blm riots, even thelegislation and the national
issue of having boys in girls'locker rooms for high school
sports All of that was reallyimportant to the base, excuse me
(09:55):
, and Holcomb was on the wrongside of that every single time
he was.
So the legislature had to stepup and they overwrote some
vetoes and they tried to reinhim in with the COVID lockdowns,
which was just completely crazywith that.
So Micah has kind of come outof a grassroots desire for the
base to have a voice in the notnecessarily in the governor's
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base, but someone in high officethat could speak, maybe, truth
to power.
Yeah, so he decided to run.
Well, over a year ago, which isvery unconventional Normally
the nominee for governor pickshis own lieutenant governor and
it's just like the VP, they goto convention and it's just a
formality, but not this time.
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He made it an amazing race.
He competed for a year, goingall over the state of Indiana,
meeting at Lincoln Days andpolitical events and groups and
anybody who would have him, andhe did a great job.
Honestly, he did a fantasticjob running.
And so we me and Andrea wetalked about this.
We had a podcast right beforethe convention.
(11:01):
Yeah, we were delegates, we gota chance to vote and honestly,
that was a pretty boringconvention up until the very.
We were delegates, we got achance to vote and honestly, it
was a pretty boring conventionup until the very end when we
all voted and me and Andreavoted for him.
I thought he was.
I said that in the podcast.
I thought he was going to losein a close race and he won by
about 70 to 80 votes and theroar that went up from the crowd
(11:23):
I mean Jimmy was like we justwon the Super Bowl.
I'm not kidding, it was amazing, wow.
And immediately the mediapundits, the establishment, went
crazy, ripping it as just youknow.
Nuts and people are going crazy.
And what's happening here?
Yeah, it's pretty funny.
You get a Christianconservative actually on the
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ballot with an opportunity towin, and it's the so-called
conservative party that tends tofreak out a little bit.
It was a lot of fun to see.
Hopefully we're going to havehim here any moment.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I have something that actually came up this week that
I thought was reallyinteresting.
It's something that happened atmy work, work, and it's a
little bit telling.
So we we received, uh, adonation from the department of
health and human services thefeds okay of some ventilators.
You're familiar with ventilatorsright, keep people alive.
(12:22):
What we needed back in covid.
Interesting thing about theseventilators they came into us
and they were all dated, uh,with late march, early april
2020.
They've got that date over allof them.
There's actually education thatwas built by the cdc in late
march, early april 2020.
It's dated the information theysent with us.
(12:44):
All of these ventilators wereceived 32 of them.
All of these ventilators wereready to go at the end of March.
Now that's prior.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
That would have been ordered prior to actually COVID
becoming a big deal, wasn't it?
Or was it closed?
Well, it was right after.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
It was right after, but remember, this was the time
when New York was drowning.
We can't give them ventilators.
When New York was drowning, wecan't get them ventilators.
These were ready.
Are they brand new?
They're brand new they're brandnew stamps and now, four years
later, they're giving them outfor disaster relief.
And it almost makes me think alittle bit that maybe all this
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stuff was in place, ready to go,and something slowed it down or
stopped it, because maybetaking advantage of something
like that, there was anadvantage to it.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
People talk about oh, you think everything's
political, but you cannot removethe politics from what happened
in COVID.
It was completely hand-in-handwith the politics of trying to
get rid of Donald Trump, that'sright.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So, yep, it was all about it.
Just a bit eye-opening, allright.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I'll tell you what folks.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
That's fine, okay.
Tell them we're ready wheneverOkay Got it.
See if Randy wants to come onOkay.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Oh man, here come on, randy's the team.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Oh man here we go Want somebody else.
Yeah, you also do right.
Oh, we can hey have Amy lowerit down.
We're good.
All right, folks we're going toprobably have maybe a few
candidates come through here.
So one of them is the presidentof the local school board and
she is a Republican.
It is a nonpartisan board.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
It's a nonpartisan board.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
yeah, we're going to ask her.
We may ask her some toughquestions.
I don't have any.
She's running for re-election,you know maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
So Drew, watch that chat in case there's any
questions they want to ask.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
yeah, so if you, want to ask questions of amy laura.
So folks were joined by uh,joined by amy laura, president
of the indigo county schoolboard, running for uh
re-election.
And amy, this is your.
You're finishing up, your firstterm is that right, that is
correct.
I ran in 2020 for the firsttime, okay yep, so um, you ran
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in 2020 for the first time andhad an almost a completely
uneventful four years is thatright?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
no right, yeah, absolutely nothing happened.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I don't have an itwitch, or anything that you
had to be in.
All in all fairness, you had tobe absolutely thrown to to the
fire, and not just you but a lotof other folks that thought
they were going to get maybe nota cush job, but definitely
wasn't what they had signed upfor.
Talk to us a little bit aboutthe biggest lessons you learned
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the last four years and thenmaybe some of the things you're
looking forward to doing in yourreelection.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, were you about to say something.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
No, go for it no um, biggest lessons.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, I knew it was going to be a rough position
because in 2020 I mean, that wasin the middle of the pandemic
people were up in arms and uh,coming to school, board meetings
and angry on both sides andeverything, and uh, that was the
crazy thing to do is to goaround for school.
At that point, right, um, so,um, when I got there, I was
prepared for that, but I don'tthink I was ready for the level
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of stress that came with it.
Some of those meetings gotpretty intense, but the biggest
lesson I have learned listen toeverybody oh that's good and sit
down with anybody who wants tohave a reasonable conversation.
That's my goal is to be areasonable human being.
I always think of Philippians,chapter 4, the Lord is at hand.
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Let your reasonableness be knownto all, and that is my motto
and that is what I try to liveby.
But moving forward, we have anew superintendent who's just
phenomenal.
He's a gift to our students,our entire community, and I just
want to support what he's doing.
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He's riding the ship and doingthings that I have wanted to see
done for a long time.
And, yeah, I'm really excitedabout where he's working.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
You've done a lot of great work, amy, and it's been a
really crazy four years for you.
What has been the mostdifficult situation, or maybe a
time that you had to deal with?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
So I've been the president for two years this is
the middle of the second year, Iguess and when I took over as
the president we had an interimsuperintendent.
Our superintendent had left andan interim and that was a rough
time.
We were dealing with somesocial issues in the schools.
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People were up in arms andgoing to school board meetings
and follow the instrument andcarry on, and it was intense.
And then during that time wewere also in the process of
looking for our districtpresident.
I got the board president.
It's a board of equalsEverybody has the same authority
.
The board president has morehomework to do.
That's how I described it.
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So I had extra homework inmaking sure we had the right
search firm and getting all ofthose things organized on
logistics making sure there wasfood on the night, stuff like
that.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
So at any rate, that was, I could say, the first six
months of last year most intenseof my life Awesome.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah that had to be super intense.
That many boards never have togo through for many years, very
valuable.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
We came together as a board.
I was really proud.
We have a very diverse boardYou're talking about where
you're going to work with youand background and everybody's
working together.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
It is amazing, when you mesh multiple different
people together, not even of thesame mind, how amazing, many
amazing things you can dobecause of all those different
perspectives coming together.
And I think that's so importantwhen we look at leadership.
Going forward is making surethat we're not all of the same
mindset, we're not all comingfrom the same direction, because
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we all really need to bechallenged, because, I mean, I'm
really stuck in some of theways that I have, but I need to
be challenged, and that's that'sreally to be a leader on a city
or county or state level.
I think you really need to havethat diversity around you to
make it so much better.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I would also just say not being afraid of that.
Actively seeking it out,because it makes you stronger,
it makes you better 100% Awesome.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Thanks, Amy.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I feel like sometimes it's just picking up.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
well, just twist it a little bit towards you, not
just this part right here.
There you go.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Is that better?
I don't know.
I have no idea.
I feel like our equipment isjust not being very nice tonight
.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It's the moisture.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
We'll just say that, first of all, it's the whole
family that gets involved whenyou run, because when you get
the backlash, when you get thecriticism, they feel it probably
sometimes more than you do.
I feel like you kind of gave agood piece of advice, but what
kind of advice would you give tosomebody who's thinking about
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running for a public office, whofeels convicted about, maybe,
where things are and reallywants to get involved?
What kind of advice would yougive them If you could go back
and talk to the?
Because you were in politics alittle bit before so you
probably were a little bitprepped for it.
But what kind of advice wouldyou give?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
So you're talking about somebody who wants to run
for office?
Yeah, I would say, if you'remarried, your spouse has to be
your biggest supporter.
Because when I was running thefirst time our youngest son was
very young.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
And people would say oh, where's your husband,
Where's your husband?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
And I'm like he is my main supporter.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
He is taking care of my kids so that I can be
knocking doors and doing allthat really hard work, but
without that you're not going tomake it.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Well, in general you're not going to make it, but
especially for our, but withoutthat, you're not going to.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
You're not going to make it Well.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
In general, you're not going to make it Well.
That's true Especially for ourcampaign, because it's such an
intense.
It's like a weird short-term,super intense business.
It only lasts a couple ofmonths and it comes back around.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I brought a couple of family ones.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Right, yeah, we had some businesses go under.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, businesses go under Right, the yeah, the
spouse, and then you know I havean older son who is in high
school, you know, and I said tohim this time I was like what do
you think about this?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Do you want me to keep doing this?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Is this embarrassing to you and to?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
my delight and surprise, he said I think it's
kind of cool, you're doing that.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
He's like I don't like it when it makes you cry
and I said I just they're angrytears sometimes.
But, no, I, I do.
I do cry a lot as a schoolboard member, but that's because
, um, I told somebody at church,you know, that they asked me to
speak about something and Iinstantly started crying.
But I'm like okay, the minutethat I stopped being like
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emotionally connected to what'shappening to the kids in our
community who need advocates isthe minute I'm not going to
listen, absolutely.
I don't apologize for that.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Awesome hey.
Thanks, Amy, and.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I didn't cry here, you did a great job.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
No crying, we can't tell, because everybody's
sweating, no kidding.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
It almost looks like tears anyway, for sure.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah, thank you, amy, and good luck.
Okay, folks, we told you he'dbe on.
This is the recent nominee forthe Republican Lieutenant
Governor.
And, micah, it was an amazingconvention, it was an amazing
run over a year, and thequestion I wanted to ask you was
what was it as a Christian, asa pastor, to take us through a
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little bit of that process ofmaking the decision to do what
you did and why you did what youdid?
And then I would love, love tohear behind the scenes what it
was like at the convention andwhen you won, because most of us
are never going to experiencethat and it was like a roar,
like we'd won the Super Bowlwhen that thing went off.
So I would love to hear that.
Take your time, say whateveryou want the mic is yours.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Thank you guys, Thanks for having me.
Well, so the going back toabout two and a half years ago,
I remember just being sofrustrated with how the
government was usurping itsauthority and shutting
everything down, forcing peopleto get vaccine mandates, forcing
kids to mask up in schoolsagainst parents will.
And I remember just, you know,I've been a constitutional
history teacher, I've been apastor for a long time, I know
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American history, I know theJudeo-Christian principles that
our nation was rooted in.
And I remember thinking tomyself the government doesn't
have the authority to do whatit's doing, but yet it's still
doing it.
And I would call my reps, Iwould call my the, the leaders
in government.
I said what are you doing?
Like, get in the battle, stopthis nonsense.
And well, we don't, we can't.
I'm like okay, fine, Well, I'lldo something.
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So I just started speaking upas a pastor, I started writing
religious exemptions for people,I started going to bat for
parents whose kids were gettingmasked up in school.
And you know, you just kind ofyou use your, you just kind of
you use your, you use yourinfluence to do good.
And people start saying, hey,we want to, like, we want to
help you whatever you do, and soso then I started thinking, OK,
well, where is that check andbalance that we should have had
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during the COVID stuff?
Well, the lieutenant governorreally has always been elected
by the delegates in the, in the,in the state convention.
But the delegates here's thedirty little secret that the
establishment has really beentelling us, or doesn't want us
to know it's the delegates aretold who to vote for, and so
I've been a delegate since 2016,.
I'm like I don't like beingtold who to vote for.
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Like stop telling me who tovote for.
And so I started asking thosequestions Like, why can't we
have a competition?
Oh, we don't do it that way.
Oh, that's not how we do it.
And I said, well, that's notgood enough for me.
And then, really so about ayear ago, I started.
A little over a year ago, Istarted laying the groundwork to
run for lieutenant governor,and we had a lot of influence
already around the state forbeing a voice for people who
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needed help during the pandemic,and so I just basically
answered the call.
It was a God thing.
I mean, God directs your steps.
The Bible says we can plan outour path, but God is the one who
directs our steps, and Godreally did that.
So, going into the convention,let me take you to the day of,
really the weekend of.
You know, it's kind of likewhen David ran up against
Goliath.
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People think that David was theunderdog, but he really wasn't.
David knew how to fight becauseGod had prepared him on the
Shepherd's Hill.
He had already taken down abear and a lion, and so.
So David was really confident.
And here's the other thingDavid was also previously
anointed by Samuel to be king ofIsrael.
So David knew essentially thathe was death proof because he
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wasn't king yet.
So he was running onto thatbattlefield with full confidence
that God was going to be withhim.
And you know, it was kind ofsomething like that too with me.
I could just see God's hand inour steps.
And all along the last year anda half, and I kind of went to
the convention with that sameconfidence like, hey, God's in
this.
And you know, I really thinkwe're going to win this, because
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this was even getting to theconvention as strong as we were,
I was like that's impossible,that should have never happened.
And yet it was happening.
And so I was like all right,Lord, you're in this.
So when I stepped out on thestage to give up my speech, I
wasn't nervous at all, it wasphenomenal.
I wasn't nervous at all, it wasphenomenal.
Oh, thank you.
And then you know what it was.
God's peace.
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I just said Lord, put me in thecenter of your will.
Win, lose or draw.
I just want to be in the centerof your will.
And then, so I almost missedthe announcement that I won.
I didn't, no, I just came outof the bathroom.
I was in the bathroom.
(26:45):
I'm going to tell you, I was inthe bathroom, I was, I was in
the bathroom, I was, you know,and trust me, I it was one of
the most peaceful moments.
There was nobody else in thebathroom.
I was the first time I had beenaway from people for the whole
weekend.
I was like I could just stay inthe bathroom here for like.
So I come out and and they'relike someone grabbed me,
attached me on the shoulder,like hey, they're about ready to
announce and literally, as I Ifind my wife, susan, they, they
call, they call it right, andthe place erupts.
Yes, it did.
And um, now here's the thing.
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I've been at convention before.
You know.
Randy had the, the chair of theconvention.
He wasn't actually announcingme as the winner when everyone
thought I wonder, yes, what hewas doing.
And this is how they always doit.
I think we probably need tochange it for future conventions
because it it makes more sensewell, he was just going
alphabetical, enlisting the vote.
Oh boy, and so had.
(27:28):
So, had we lost, that wouldhave been super awkward and not
not fun.
But so so he says, you know,lieutenant governor, you know,
uh, micah beckwith.
And the place just erupts Rightand I'm like saying hold up,
hold up.
I think he's just saying thevote.
Yeah, I don't think.
And then I'm like wait forRandy to be like I'm trying to
(27:49):
explain this, but then he walksoff the stage.
Now I do know that I probablywas the winner, because their
body language the whole time onthe stage was a little bit like
oh no, what just happened?
So I could see that coming andI was like I think we won this
thing because nobody was upthere excited on that stage.
Now I will say this after thefact Randy's been great.
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Randy's the new chairman of thestate party.
He's really been such a teamplayer.
I love Randy.
I think he's going to do agreat job as chair in this
interim.
Whether he stays on longer ornot, I guess that's for him and
the bronze team to decide.
But and then the bronze teamhas been great too.
I mean, we, we really unifiedas a party, mike told me the
other day.
He said uh, he said, man, you,you're bringing a lot of energy
(28:32):
to the base, you're, you'rebringing back these
disenfranchised republicans, andso I think they're seeing the
beauty of what happened at theconvention.
Now here's the other thing thatI think we did in Indiana.
Let me explain this.
I'm a big federalist,federalism, guy.
I believe in state's authority.
So go back to the Constitution,the federal system of
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government.
We were supposed to haverepresentation, but we had the
House of Representatives and theUS Senate.
The House was always supposedto represent the people and the
US Senate was supposed torepresent the states.
That's why the statelegislatures would elect the US
senators.
But we gave that up in the early1900s with the 17th Amendment.
It's one of the worstamendments ever made.
We need to repeal it.
The 16th Amendment income taxcould be the next one made.
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We need to repeal it.
The 16th and then 16thamendment income tax could be
the next one.
So those are the two that wegot to repeal.
But so you know what we did inIndiana is we kind of brought
back federalism, because hereyou have Mike Braun, who was
elected by the people in May 7thin the primary, and then the
delegates represented somebodyto think about the party
apparatus, right To representthe party in the system.
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And I think what the delegatesknow more than anybody else is
how's the health of theRepublican Party?
They're keyed into that, and sowhat they said Micah, we want
you to go into the battle for us, but remember the base of the
party.
Don't forget about us.
And I'm a base party guy, thatis my, that is my heartbeat, and
(30:00):
so we really sort of returnedIndiana into a little bit of a
federalistic kind of mindset,and so I think that's been, it's
been beautiful.
So that's a kind of a longstory, but that's kind of the
yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Thanks, micah.
Yeah, we were just talking tosomebody from our school board
and talking about how importantit is in leadership to have
diversity in your team, and Ithink that's something with
indiana going this way andputting you on there with mike
braun is just adds thisdiversity to the overall ticket
and able to capture the entireamount of voters across indiana.
(30:33):
So I'm super excited about that.
So we're both followers ofjesus and we both ran before.
We both lost All right, and weboth actually felt called to run
before, and this actuallystarted after that.
What would you give to somebody?
If you, if somebody, has ontheir heart to run for political
office, what would you?
(30:54):
What would you?
What advice would you give them?
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Do it.
I mean you don mean, don'tthink that winning is the
ultimate goal.
Winning an election is not thegoal I told people.
Listen, god called me to run.
I don't know if he called me towin, that's up to him, right
but I do know that when you run,you gain an influence.
You gain a platform, whetherit's big or small.
You have new influence, andwhat I do know is that god is
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calling us to be influencers.
That's right, and we need totake truth into a world full of
lies, whether that's in yourfamily, whether that's in your
school, in your church, in yourcommunity, in your government,
it doesn't matter.
Just get out and influence.
You know that we we arestruggling in america with
freedom under attack.
I think we can all sayfreedom's under attack.
Well, what does the Bible sayabout freedom?
If you want it, you will knowthe truth, and the truth will
(31:43):
set you free, right.
So what's the key to freedom?
You got to know truth.
Well, how do you know truth Ifpeople of truth won't go out
there and speak the truth right?
So so I think anyone who'scalled to engage in politics, to
run for office, they should doit and recognize you're a true
speaker and that won't returnvoid.
(32:04):
God's word does not return void.
But there's two things here.
We've got to know truth.
Right now I think there arepeople running for office that
I'm like I don't think you knowtruth at all.
You wouldn't know truth if ithit you in the face, right?
So you've got to first knowtruth and then you've got to be
willing to speak it and you'vegot to be willing to take the
arrows because, remember, truthin a world full of lies will be
vilified.
Yeah, so my litmus test on howgood I'm doing is does the left
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and those who hate God, do theyhate me?
If they hate me and the IndyStar is attacking me and the
media is attacking me, praise,attacking me like that, praise
the lord.
It just means I must be reallygood at speaking truth.
Right, if they don't hate you,I would say you might want to
check your.
Uh, you'll check yourselfbecause there's probably an
issue.
Yeah, right, you're compromised.
So, yeah, so that's that's tome, uh, the the litmus test that
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I have.
So you gotta know truth andtruth will set you free.
And then hosea 4-6 says this itmy people perish for lack of
knowledge, knowledge.
So, again, one of the things Idid in this lieutenant
governor's race.
I just knew how the systemworks Right, and people,
especially in the establishment,when they found out what I was
doing, they were like he can'tdo this.
(33:12):
And then, like people who knewthe system, were like, well,
yeah, he can.
And then they were like, well,he found a loophole.
And they're like, well, it'snot really a loophole, it's just
he knew the system and he hadgotten away from it, so really
know the system, and then beatthem at their own game.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
And I think that's you know and you will.
And listen, I ran for Congressin 2020 and I lost.
But if I wouldn't have donethat, there's no way I would
have been able to run forlieutenant governor.
So it's all.
It's all about planting seed.
You know the kingdom principleslike this is.
This is what God always talksabout.
It's a, it's a principle of theseeds, right.
So you sow the seed, you reap aharvest, then you collect the
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harvest and you sow more seedand you reap a bigger harvest.
So every time you engage alittle bit, you're sowing a
little seed.
Yeah, you're gonna reap aharvest.
Don't, don't just lose and thengo away say no, no, there was,
you got, you got, you got aharvest there, now re-sow it and
then something bigger is goingto come the next time.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
So, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, thank you, uh micah, somuch for uh joining us.
We are gonna have to have you onafter you have won, because you
guys are gonna win yeah youhave been, uh, an encouragement
to all of us and and you'reright, I I wrote immediately
after your win with the base.
This was a base win and thebase is fired up and they need
(34:26):
to be fired up because we needto win in november, that's right
.
So, uh, thank you so much forjoining us.
I know you're super busy.
Gotta get out there and, uh,kiss the babies and shake the
hands.
All right, thank you, micah.
So, folks, uh, that was micahbeck with, uh, the republican
nominee for lieutenant governor.
Super nice guy, obviously.
(34:46):
Very well spoken.
We're gonna have to have himback on the program again.
That was a lot of fun.
We are actually joined right nowby the chairman of the vigo
County Republican Party, randyGentry, and we're going to let
him talk a little bit, I think,about the national convention
which you're going to go to.
I really want to hear how cheapthis was, because I was
(35:12):
actually on record ascomplaining about the $150 that
we had to pay for Burson to goto the state convention, and
then I heard the price tag ongoing to to electron, which is
what this is about.
Yeah, um, and I was flatlyguessing.
So we're down to two mics I'mgoing to give you the mic, we'll
ask questions or whatever, andthen I can give you my mic.
Uh, okay, that's fine, allright.
(35:33):
So so talk to us about this.
What's, first of all, what'sthe process of being a delegate
for the National Convention?
I've always wondered this.
And talk to us about the cost?
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Yeah well, the first thing is how you become a
delegate to the NationalConvention.
So in the state of Indianathere's 113 members of the
Republican Party that go to theNational Convention.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Okay, how do they get ?
Speaker 4 (35:57):
it, and so each congressional district gets
three delegates and threealternates, and then the rest
are appointed by the state chair.
There are three, what we call.
They're really notsuperdelegates, it's something
that's loosely used, but it'sthe two committeemen.
(36:18):
There's a committee woman and acommittee man for each state
and the state party chairman.
So those are three guaranteed,and then the rest of them are
appointed.
So the process is I'd say itwas probably February the
(36:39):
chairman and the vice chairmanfrom the 8th Congressional
District got together and youbasically run.
It's like a campaign You'rerunning and they vote on it, and
so I'm very blessed.
This is going to be my fourthconvention, so I don't know if
I'm blessed or broke.
I'm probably both.
(36:59):
So we're going to talk a littlebit about money as well, but um,
the neat thing here for vigocounty never in the history of
vigo county and I think itstands to where we are as a
republican party today here inthe county we're taking three
delegates to the nationalconvention.
So there's been years that wedidn't have anybody.
(37:20):
We are the second largestcounty in the 8th congressional
district so, but there's 92counties in Indiana.
113 people get to go as part ofthe delegation and so we're
taking three.
So I'm pretty excited aboutthat.
So I'll be joined by Senator,state Senator Greg Good and
(37:41):
former State Senator John Ford.
So those gentlemen wereappointed.
I was elected.
So kind of a slightly differentpath to get to where we're
going.
But we're all going and we'reexcited.
So now it's a very, it's a veryexpensive endeavor.
So my first convention cost mealmost eight thousand dollars,
(38:05):
oh my God.
And so you know, you thinkabout that's a car, that's you
know, that's you know that's ayear's worth of mortgage
payments, whatever.
So you have to be dedicated todo this.
So, before I even leave VigoCounty to go to Milwaukee this
year, I'm right now around fivethousand two hundred dollars.
(38:26):
So, like I said, you got to bededicated.
It is a very unique experience.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Historic.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah, and it is your part of history.
Your names are going to be readinto the congressional record.
It's a neat experience and and,like I said, I will say that
I'm very blessed to be able tosay that this is my fourth one,
and the last one got canceled.
I'm not going to get into thestudents, get too sidetracked,
(38:56):
but I was actually working inthe White House, so I was going
to go on a different route thelast one but it was canceled
because of COVID.
So this is our first one sinceCOVID and people are really
fired up and obviously thenational political scene is hot
right now, so it's going to be alot of fun.
(39:17):
We're going to figure out whoour vice president's going to be
, we're obviously going tonominate Donald Trump, put him
back in the White House, and sogood things are ahead.
So we're going to be up therefor a week and looking forward
to it.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you've got a host ofstories we could talk about
sometime.
We were definitely going toneed to.
We should revisit the Andrewwinning the primary for state
rep story behind the scenessometime, but it probably would
get us canceled, so I don't knowif that's going to happen, but
so you've been real quick.
(39:52):
You've been a chairman of theRepublican party in Vigo County
for how many years?
Speaker 4 (39:58):
You know I've lost track.
I think it's about a dozenyears.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
And the salary you make from that takes care of
everything.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Yeah, zero, zero.
It's a volunteer position, so Ihonestly think I need to be
checked out and see why I keepdoing it.
It's fun.
I mean obviously you know I tellpeople it's it's really.
You know, just like tonight.
You know we throw money intothe hat.
You basically you're trying toenergize and you got to, you got
(40:26):
to believe in what you're doingor you're the wrong person for
the position.
So you, you have to do that.
But you know, even before Ibecame the county chairman, I
served as the vice chair of the8th Congressional District.
The county chairman I served asthe vice chair of the 8th
congressional district sat onthe state committee.
I kind of did things backwardsand then I was involved in local
politics and then I ended upbecoming the chair.
Matter of fact, the vacancy forthe chairman occurred, I
(40:50):
believe, when I was in Tampa, stPete, for that convention, and
so when I got back it was acaucus and that was my first run
for county chair.
So you know, I, like I said, Ihave multiple presidential
campaigns.
I could keep you guys busy forprobably you could do 18
(41:11):
episodes and I mean.
But I've worked for threepresidential campaigns, numerous
gubernatorial campaigns, soyeah, I've been around the world
doing this.
So a lot of fun and I'veenjoyed every minute of it, even
though the big paycheck isstill in the mail.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Well, we've really enjoyed being able to be here
today tonight at the fair.
We really appreciate yourhosting us here in the
Republican shed slash barn.
I call it the barn.
I call it the barn, thebackdrop is pretty cool with all
these signs of people that haverun in the past.
You know that Vigo County gotto vote on Because not all of
them are based in Vigo Countybut would have been on the
(41:50):
ballot.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
All right.
What we've tried to do is one.
It's very colorful, yeah, andyou know, so many times people
run and I've always said this aschairman and before I was
chairman is that when someonewants to run, they put their
name on the ballot.
You know, just because theydidn't win doesn't mean that
they haven't opened up a doorfor somebody else.
They may have made someprogress, uh, they may.
(42:12):
You know, they've helped theparty and and, and there's
really no better way to do thatthan to put your name on the
ballot and it's, if they reallyto be honest with you I don't,
I'm not sure there's any otherthing you can do within a party
politics then that's greaterthan actually running.
So what I wanted to do iscreate a tribute and a
(42:34):
historical record of all thepeople that have run over the
years.
Now, I started this probablyabout five or six years ago, but
I have yard signs that go back20-some odd years, so we've
nailed them and screwed them andput them all up here on the
wall.
It's colorful, it's cool, it'slike a walk down memory lane
(42:56):
every time you walk in, so it'sfun.
But hey, guys, I really thankyou for joining us tonight.
This has been a huge crowd.
Obviously got the nextlieutenant governor with you
tonight too, and so what a night.
And for the GOP and I'm justexcited this November is going
to be a great great time.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
It cannot get here soon enough, that is for sure.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Well, thanks guys, I appreciate you, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
All right, so we're probably going to wrap up here
fairly short Did you have anyquestions?
Come through Well.
So this is the first time thatone question, one viewer, yeah,
oh, that's good.
Well, here's the deal.
A lot of folks are going towatch this after the fact.
Yeah, and it's going to takeconsistency of going live at a
(43:45):
certain time for us to build theaudience, which is fine.
Yeah, I think going live is theway to go.
I totally want to do this nexttime.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
I agree.
Hopefully it will be two weeksfrom tonight.
Yeah, six thirty, that's that'sprobably the best time for us,
so that's likely when we'll doit.
It's really great because weget to talk about current events
that happened right then.
They could have happened anhour before the show.
We could literally becommenting on it, and it's not
stale and old, it shows up.
(44:15):
What did you take away fromthat conversation with the
lieutenant governor?
Speaker 1 (44:23):
So I love this story about David and I think almost I
would even add to it for him,because before David actually
went out on the battlefield,they tried to put Saul's armor
on him Remember that, trying toput the armor of the old on top
of him, but he didn't need itbecause he was already prepared.
And I thought I think that'sreally interesting with Micah in
(44:46):
the fact that he's coming froma different angle, yeah, and
he's not taking the armor of theprevious, yeah, and I don't
know.
I think it was really cool andyou know, I love his perspective
on losing, I mean, and theinfluence that comes from that.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Well, I have seen that happen.
I've talked about this in thepast.
You know, when I ran forCongress, I was running for one
reason.
God had me running for anotherand it was honestly a phenomenal
thing that happened.
God's deliver.
Running for another, it washonestly a phenomenal thing that
happened.
God's deliverance for me.
Boy, it felt painful losing.
It wasn't what I was lookingfor.
(45:25):
I wouldn't trade it, obviously,for anything in the world the
second time.
I'm still not sure exactly whyI ran for state rep.
Honestly, Jimmy, this podcastprobably would not have happened
, Me and you being able to worktogether.
I think we figured out we kindof work well together and
there's no way I want to do thispodcast without you.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
So if you quit, I'm going to be pretty upset.
I wasn't planning on quitting.
I'm hoping you don't.
I wasn't planning on quitting.
I feel like we do.
You know people are like, whatare you talking about yourselves
for?
But I do feel like we work welltogether.
It's a good workingrelationship and that's
something that is a fruit ofwhat's come out and, honestly, a
lot of our viewers a lot ofpeople don't know this, but a
(46:08):
lot of the viewers and peoplethat watch or listen to the
podcast directly came from thatcampaign.
Yeah, I mean, it's directlyconnected to it.
Yeah, so we're waiting still togo viral.
I mean, I don't even know whatthat is, but we're hoping to go
viral for something.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
We've been antiviral for a while.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Maybe that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
You work at a hospital.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Maybe that's the problem.
Antivirals oh that's so, dad.
That's such a dad joke.
That is just awful.
Well, I guess we'll probably goahead and wrap up.
Yeah, I think it's good.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
We appreciate you all being here Absolutely, and we
plan on doing more livebroadcasts and interviews.
We're going to work this stuffout, and it was near seamless
today, except for the one mic,yeah, but other than that, I
think this has worked out reallywell.
We appreciate you being here.
Watch for when we pop up onYouTube for a live one, because
(46:57):
you're going to get informationthat's happening that day.
We would rather be able to giveinterviews and make it
unscripted so that, uh, you canwatch it and have something
that's not maybe a couple daysold.
Uh, because we think that'sreally important.
Fresh and, uh, yeah, we're realhot in here.
I'm not saying that we're freshright now, but but we
(47:18):
appreciate you being here.
If you have any questions, haveany comments, have anything any
place you want us to go livenext time?
The.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
MC Squared podcast at gmailcom.
We're going to do live again.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
We absolutely are.
If you've got a cool place forus the MC Squared podcast at
gmailcom.
The MC Squared podcast atgmailcom.
We the MC squared podcast atgmailcom.
The MC squared podcast atgmailcom.
We both get that email and giveus a spot to go live where
there's a crowd.
Hopefully there's not a bandplaying in the background next
time, but a bunch of peoplearound is always cool because
you get the nice ambiance ofVigo County fair.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
And we're going to go get you know some fair food
here shortly.
If you and if you're here atVigo County, stop, uh, if you
and if you're here in vigocounty, stop by the vigo county
fair.
It is, it is.
I didn't want to say this andprobably nobody's listening at
this point it's almost an hourbut somebody might be listening.
But listen, this is a greatfair, this is a great county
fair.
I have been a part of othercounty fairs and let me just say
(48:11):
that, not to get around, not todisparage that the others, but
I will say this is a greatfairground.
It is clean, uh, the, the, thecrowd is just a good, family
friendly crowd.
Uh, lots of 4-h'ers.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
It's got great events out in the arena and honestly,
I'm it's, it's just a fantasticplace to say I love that
perspective because a lot ofpeople don't know what they have
.
Yeah, right, no it.
No, it's true, yeah it's true,good.
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Speaker 1 (48:57):
That's.
So welcome to the MC Square Podcast.
We are live.
Like we said, we were gonna beat the Vigo County Fair, and we
have to deal with a little bitof background noise because Vigo
County knows how to party right, and so this is the free stage.
We've got everything fromcountry to Elton John to
whatever you want going on.
(00:21):
And it's echoing straight intothe barn.
Yes, now this is the republicanbarn garage.
What is this?
Uh, I feel like the republicanshed the shed, and just to our
left, closer to andrew's left,is the democratic set.
That actually doesn't haveanybody in it right now and
there's a pretty good partygoing on out here, pretty much
because we brought food, butthere's a lot of people here and
(00:44):
we're super excited about it.
Yeah, um, and I'm excited to behere.
It's gonna sound weird becauseof the stuff in the background,
but this is how it works guysyeah, when we're going live.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yep, absolutely, we're on location, obviously.
As you said, in on the vigocounty fair we had a microphone
die on us yep so actually themicrophone is mine, it's the
cord so, and we've been toldthat the music's gonna stop here
shortly, so we have some pretty.
We had some pretty exciting, uh,pretty exciting guests actually
(01:15):
tonight we do um, he is hereright now but, uh, at some point
he's gonna make his way overhere.
We'll him some questions, givehim a chance to talk, but we're
going to be talking with MicahBeckwith, the Republican nominee
for Lieutenant Governor.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
That's a good way to put it, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Awesome, all right.
So, jimmy, anything excitinghappening lately.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Well, this is exciting.
The setup back here is prettyawesome.
So, if you don't notice, thereare a ton of signs behind us.
We should do our podcast hereall the time, because the sign
background is really awesome.
It is pretty cool, but no,obviously Vigo County Fairs go
on.
We're midway through it thisweek.
My kids have some things theyput in the fair.
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We've already done the rides,we're already done with that and
we're actually going to begoing to state fair later on
this in august.
So that's exciting.
Yeah, have they done thatbefore?
Yeah, usually one of them getsa, gets a project, that goes and
then we go and ride the ridesthere, but it's, it's a cool
outing at that time of the year,uh, but it's kind of a hot one
here.
If you're here locally, it'spretty hot in this barn right
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now.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, so folks, during while we're broadcasting,
there's a live chat.
Go watch it on YouTube.
Yeah, if you're on YouTube, youknow this.
Join the chat.
Send us your questions orcomments.
Questions for Micah Beckwithwould be great.
Hopefully, before he's finishedwith his interview, we'll be
able to ask him a couplequestions from the audience.
That would be awesome.
Yeah, yeah, and we'll be ableto ask him a couple questions
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from the audience.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
That would be awesome , yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
And we'll have some other folks here too.
I think we're going to try toget the local chairman of the
Republican Party on and he's gotsome personal exciting news
politically that he's doing soit might be interesting to talk
about.
Yeah, that would be interesting, so anyway.
Well, there's not been a lotgoing on politically, jimmy,
since we talked last.
There's not been an absolutecollapse in the Democrat Party
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or anything, no, nothing alongthose lines.
And what's crazy.
It is a little bit, if youremember the story when we were
all growing up of the emperorhas no clothes.
It's kind of like they've beentelling themselves or trying to
tell the rest of us actuallythat oh no, he's fully clothed,
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this guy's fully clothed, he'sfully and mentally there, and
then all of a sudden there wasjust a full exposure during that
debate.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Oh my gosh.
And I mean, and the politicalpundits afterwards, they blew my
mind because the act like thiswas a surprise, like the memes
of the last three years were allnot real, like you hadn't seen
them, yes, like you hadn't seena meme yet.
I mean, we all kind of expectedit.
And unfortunately I mean reallyunfortunate for that man that
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he's being put through, thatthat's kind of the way I feel
about this.
And being stood up there, thatman, that he's being put through
that, that's kind of the way Ifeel about this.
And being stood up there.
Um, obviously I work in healthcare and uh, we have to actually
we do assessments on ourpatients to make sure they're
mentally competent, specificallyif they're in a hospital room.
They're going to fall orsomething like that, and I will
guarantee you that he would be afall risk.
He would have a bracelet on hiswrist because we'd be worried
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about him falling in a roombecause of the for one, his gate
is way off, the Biden shuffle,the shuffle is way off, and then
, uh, being able to answerquestions, and so it's really
sad that they're putting him upthere.
It's almost like I feel likemaybe it's all planned, but I
don't want to get too crazy withthat, but it seems really odd
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that they would put him on thatstage.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Well, I'd be interested.
Did you happen to watch thedebate?
I watched portions.
Okay, I watched the wholedebate.
I was stunned from the verysecond it started, that they let
him go out there like that.
I wasn't surprised he was likethat.
I was surprised they didn't joghim up and down.
He had a week to prepare forthat.
Yeah, and it was stunning.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I really think they could have drugged him, though,
but because they did it before.
Andrew, Remember when he did itat the State of the Union.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
He was popped up baby .
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah.
So that makes me think like sowhy not this time?
Why did you not give him?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
a chance.
I would be interested to see.
I mean, what did you think ofthe moderators, Because I
thought their behavior wastelling.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
It was.
It was painful for them.
I could tell it started gettingreally painful for all at some
point Trump was quite restrained, I believe for what he could
have unleashed, but I honestlythink he was thinking the same
thing, that all of us were like,whoa, this is a little bit
scary.
Yeah yeah, it was stunning.
And this is the guy that hasthe button for the nukes, right?
(05:53):
What?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
was really interesting to me too was the
moderators CNN.
They hate Trump and, if younotice, there wasn't any
pushback to Trump's answers onetime yeah, they didn't interrupt
him, they didn't try to badgerhim or anything noticed.
There wasn't any pushback totrump's question answers one
time.
Yeah, I mean they didn'tinterrupt him, they didn't try
to, you know, badger him oranything.
I, when that it was happening,I thought, ah, the fix, the fix
is in.
These guys have been giveninstructions.
(06:14):
That's right instructionsthat's right and they're
following orders.
This is.
This is uh deep six fight night.
Not, it has nothing to do withtrump so will it happen?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Will they put him out there again?
Does he have to go out again?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
He's supposed to be having a press conference, I
think as we speak, or here maybeat 7 o'clock, and the staff has
been calling it all day the bigboy press conference, because
they're going to let him just,you know, they're just going to
let him go, oh boy.
And if that's the case, yeah,they're.
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They're trying to eliminate himpolitically.
Um, I was talking with apolitical figure here earlier,
before we got going, and histheory was that the bidens are
just waiting out for their, fortheir check, that they're
negotiating the dollar amountthat they want really to go, and
that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It's probably a big one If you know how much money
he's taken from other countries.
It's not been small change, ohgosh no.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Well, they got to make sure Hunter's taken care of
.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
This is crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
They're partying out there.
I wish you guys could see whatwe were watching.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
We're in the back, the red-headed stepchildren.
You want to flip it around alittle bit?
Just flip it around real quick,oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Just do a little food look.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Can you see that?
It's a madhouse?
Those are all Republicans,folks.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
They're in Vigo County and they come for food
too.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Well, they do.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah.
They usually don't come toshake a politician's hand, yeah,
but if you're giving out aSam's, hot dog get on it.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
So well, we're also excited.
We haven't announced this ortalked about it at all, but this
has kind of gone on behind thescenes.
And, by the way, we're going toget another cord.
That's the first thing I'mpurchasing when I leave here.
We need to get a new cord so wecan have guests.
But we've got a new studio thatwe're going to be shooting from
soon and I'm pretty excitedabout it actually.
(08:17):
So I'm ready.
It's your house.
I know it's a secret locationJimmy.
It's a secret location, now wegotta change it.
Yes, the secret bunker, that'sright, but uh, no, I'm pretty
excited about that.
Actually, I think the backdroplooks really cool.
It's air conditioned we won't besweating control yeah, and
(08:47):
we're glistening today.
Talk with the lieutenantgovernor nominee soon, micah
Beckwith.
For those of you outside of thestate of Indiana not aware of
the story that's gone on withthis, it's pretty fascinating
because Micah is a pastor out ofNoblesville, indiana, and has
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been a political activist andalso has his own talk show, his
podcast, which I'm sure we'llmention.
So I heard that correctly.
Sorry about that.
So Micah decided to run forlieutenant governor because
conservatives in Indiana havebeen extremely frustrated with
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the governors the Republicangovernors that we've had One in
particular, eric Holcomb for thelast eight years.
Yeah, blm riots, even thelegislation and the national
issue of having boys in girls'locker rooms for high school
sports All of that was reallyimportant to the base, excuse me
(09:55):
, and Holcomb was on the wrongside of that every single time
he was.
So the legislature had to stepup and they overwrote some
vetoes and they tried to reinhim in with the COVID lockdowns,
which was just completely crazywith that.
So Micah has kind of come outof a grassroots desire for the
base to have a voice in the notnecessarily in the governor's
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base, but someone in high officethat could speak, maybe, truth
to power.
Yeah, so he decided to run.
Well, over a year ago, which isvery unconventional Normally
the nominee for governor pickshis own lieutenant governor and
it's just like the VP, they goto convention and it's just a
formality, but not this time.
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He made it an amazing race.
He competed for a year, goingall over the state of Indiana,
meeting at Lincoln Days andpolitical events and groups and
anybody who would have him, andhe did a great job.
Honestly, he did a fantasticjob running.
And so we me and Andrea wetalked about this.
We had a podcast right beforethe convention.
(11:01):
Yeah, we were delegates, we gota chance to vote and honestly,
that was a pretty boringconvention up until the very.
We were delegates, we got achance to vote and honestly, it
was a pretty boring conventionup until the very end when we
all voted and me and Andreavoted for him.
I thought he was.
I said that in the podcast.
I thought he was going to losein a close race and he won by
about 70 to 80 votes and theroar that went up from the crowd
(11:23):
I mean Jimmy was like we justwon the Super Bowl.
I'm not kidding, it was amazing, wow.
And immediately the mediapundits, the establishment, went
crazy, ripping it as just youknow.
Nuts and people are going crazy.
And what's happening here?
Yeah, it's pretty funny.
You get a Christianconservative actually on the
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ballot with an opportunity towin, and it's the so-called
conservative party that tends tofreak out a little bit.
It was a lot of fun to see.
Hopefully we're going to havehim here any moment.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I have something that actually came up this week that
I thought was reallyinteresting.
It's something that happened atmy work, work, and it's a
little bit telling.
So we we received, uh, adonation from the department of
health and human services thefeds okay of some ventilators.
You're familiar with ventilatorsright, keep people alive.
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What we needed back in covid.
Interesting thing about theseventilators they came into us
and they were all dated, uh,with late march, early april
2020.
They've got that date over allof them.
There's actually education thatwas built by the cdc in late
march, early april 2020.
It's dated the information theysent with us.
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All of these ventilators wereceived 32 of them.
All of these ventilators wereready to go at the end of March.
Now that's prior.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
That would have been ordered prior to actually COVID
becoming a big deal, wasn't it?
Or was it closed?
Well, it was right after.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
It was right after, but remember, this was the time
when New York was drowning.
We can't give them ventilators.
When New York was drowning, wecan't get them ventilators.
These were ready.
Are they brand new?
They're brand new they're brandnew stamps and now, four years
later, they're giving them outfor disaster relief.
And it almost makes me think alittle bit that maybe all this
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stuff was in place, ready to go,and something slowed it down or
stopped it, because maybetaking advantage of something
like that, there was anadvantage to it.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
People talk about oh, you think everything's
political, but you cannot removethe politics from what happened
in COVID.
It was completely hand-in-handwith the politics of trying to
get rid of Donald Trump, that'sright.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So, yep, it was all about it.
Just a bit eye-opening, allright.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I'll tell you what folks.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
That's fine, okay.
Tell them we're ready wheneverOkay Got it.
See if Randy wants to come onOkay.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Oh man, here come on, randy's the team.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Oh man here we go Want somebody else.
Yeah, you also do right.
Oh, we can hey have Amy lowerit down.
We're good.
All right, folks we're going toprobably have maybe a few
candidates come through here.
So one of them is the presidentof the local school board and
she is a Republican.
It is a nonpartisan board.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
It's a nonpartisan board.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
yeah, we're going to ask her.
We may ask her some toughquestions.
I don't have any.
She's running for re-election,you know maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
So Drew, watch that chat in case there's any
questions they want to ask.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
yeah, so if you, want to ask questions of amy laura.
So folks were joined by uh,joined by amy laura, president
of the indigo county schoolboard, running for uh
re-election.
And amy, this is your.
You're finishing up, your firstterm is that right, that is
correct.
I ran in 2020 for the firsttime, okay yep, so um, you ran
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in 2020 for the first time andhad an almost a completely
uneventful four years is thatright?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
no right, yeah, absolutely nothing happened.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I don't have an itwitch, or anything that you
had to be in.
All in all fairness, you had tobe absolutely thrown to to the
fire, and not just you but a lotof other folks that thought
they were going to get maybe nota cush job, but definitely
wasn't what they had signed upfor.
Talk to us a little bit aboutthe biggest lessons you learned
(15:37):
the last four years and thenmaybe some of the things you're
looking forward to doing in yourreelection.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, were you about to say something.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
No, go for it no um, biggest lessons.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, I knew it was going to be a rough position
because in 2020 I mean, that wasin the middle of the pandemic
people were up in arms and uh,coming to school, board meetings
and angry on both sides andeverything, and uh, that was the
crazy thing to do is to goaround for school.
At that point, right, um, so,um, when I got there, I was
prepared for that, but I don'tthink I was ready for the level
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of stress that came with it.
Some of those meetings gotpretty intense, but the biggest
lesson I have learned listen toeverybody oh that's good and sit
down with anybody who wants tohave a reasonable conversation.
That's my goal is to be areasonable human being.
I always think of Philippians,chapter 4, the Lord is at hand.
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Let your reasonableness be knownto all, and that is my motto
and that is what I try to liveby.
But moving forward, we have anew superintendent who's just
phenomenal.
He's a gift to our students,our entire community, and I just
want to support what he's doing.
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He's riding the ship and doingthings that I have wanted to see
done for a long time.
And, yeah, I'm really excitedabout where he's working.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
You've done a lot of great work, amy, and it's been a
really crazy four years for you.
What has been the mostdifficult situation, or maybe a
time that you had to deal with?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
So I've been the president for two years this is
the middle of the second year, Iguess and when I took over as
the president we had an interimsuperintendent.
Our superintendent had left andan interim and that was a rough
time.
We were dealing with somesocial issues in the schools.
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People were up in arms andgoing to school board meetings
and follow the instrument andcarry on, and it was intense.
And then during that time wewere also in the process of
looking for our districtpresident.
I got the board president.
It's a board of equalsEverybody has the same authority
.
The board president has morehomework to do.
That's how I described it.
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So I had extra homework inmaking sure we had the right
search firm and getting all ofthose things organized on
logistics making sure there wasfood on the night, stuff like
that.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
So at any rate, that was, I could say, the first six
months of last year most intenseof my life Awesome.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah that had to be super intense.
That many boards never have togo through for many years, very
valuable.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
We came together as a board.
I was really proud.
We have a very diverse boardYou're talking about where
you're going to work with youand background and everybody's
working together.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
It is amazing, when you mesh multiple different
people together, not even of thesame mind, how amazing, many
amazing things you can dobecause of all those different
perspectives coming together.
And I think that's so importantwhen we look at leadership.
Going forward is making surethat we're not all of the same
mindset, we're not all comingfrom the same direction, because
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we all really need to bechallenged, because, I mean, I'm
really stuck in some of theways that I have, but I need to
be challenged, and that's that'sreally to be a leader on a city
or county or state level.
I think you really need to havethat diversity around you to
make it so much better.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I would also just say not being afraid of that.
Actively seeking it out,because it makes you stronger,
it makes you better 100% Awesome.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Thanks, Amy.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I feel like sometimes it's just picking up.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
well, just twist it a little bit towards you, not
just this part right here.
There you go.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Is that better?
I don't know.
I have no idea.
I feel like our equipment isjust not being very nice tonight
.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It's the moisture.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
We'll just say that, first of all, it's the whole
family that gets involved whenyou run, because when you get
the backlash, when you get thecriticism, they feel it probably
sometimes more than you do.
I feel like you kind of gave agood piece of advice, but what
kind of advice would you give tosomebody who's thinking about
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running for a public office, whofeels convicted about, maybe,
where things are and reallywants to get involved?
What kind of advice would yougive them If you could go back
and talk to the?
Because you were in politics alittle bit before so you
probably were a little bitprepped for it.
But what kind of advice wouldyou give?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
So you're talking about somebody who wants to run
for office?
Yeah, I would say, if you'remarried, your spouse has to be
your biggest supporter.
Because when I was running thefirst time our youngest son was
very young.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
And people would say oh, where's your husband,
Where's your husband?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
And I'm like he is my main supporter.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
He is taking care of my kids so that I can be
knocking doors and doing allthat really hard work, but
without that you're not going tomake it.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Well, in general you're not going to make it, but
especially for our, but withoutthat, you're not going to.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
You're not going to make it Well.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
In general, you're not going to make it Well.
That's true Especially for ourcampaign, because it's such an
intense.
It's like a weird short-term,super intense business.
It only lasts a couple ofmonths and it comes back around.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I brought a couple of family ones.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Right, yeah, we had some businesses go under.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, businesses go under Right, the yeah, the
spouse, and then you know I havean older son who is in high
school, you know, and I said tohim this time I was like what do
you think about this?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Do you want me to keep doing this?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Is this embarrassing to you and to?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
my delight and surprise, he said I think it's
kind of cool, you're doing that.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
He's like I don't like it when it makes you cry
and I said I just they're angrytears sometimes.
But, no, I, I do.
I do cry a lot as a schoolboard member, but that's because
, um, I told somebody at church,you know, that they asked me to
speak about something and Iinstantly started crying.
But I'm like okay, the minutethat I stopped being like
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emotionally connected to what'shappening to the kids in our
community who need advocates isthe minute I'm not going to
listen, absolutely.
I don't apologize for that.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Awesome hey.
Thanks, Amy, and.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I didn't cry here, you did a great job.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
No crying, we can't tell, because everybody's
sweating, no kidding.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
It almost looks like tears anyway, for sure.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah, thank you, amy, and good luck.
Okay, folks, we told you he'dbe on.
This is the recent nominee forthe Republican Lieutenant
Governor.
And, micah, it was an amazingconvention, it was an amazing
run over a year, and thequestion I wanted to ask you was
what was it as a Christian, asa pastor, to take us through a
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little bit of that process ofmaking the decision to do what
you did and why you did what youdid?
And then I would love, love tohear behind the scenes what it
was like at the convention andwhen you won, because most of us
are never going to experiencethat and it was like a roar,
like we'd won the Super Bowlwhen that thing went off.
So I would love to hear that.
Take your time, say whateveryou want the mic is yours.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Thank you guys, Thanks for having me.
Well, so the going back toabout two and a half years ago,
I remember just being sofrustrated with how the
government was usurping itsauthority and shutting
everything down, forcing peopleto get vaccine mandates, forcing
kids to mask up in schoolsagainst parents will.
And I remember just, you know,I've been a constitutional
history teacher, I've been apastor for a long time, I know
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American history, I know theJudeo-Christian principles that
our nation was rooted in.
And I remember thinking tomyself the government doesn't
have the authority to do whatit's doing, but yet it's still
doing it.
And I would call my reps, Iwould call my the, the leaders
in government.
I said what are you doing?
Like, get in the battle, stopthis nonsense.
And well, we don't, we can't.
I'm like okay, fine, Well, I'lldo something.
(23:51):
So I just started speaking upas a pastor, I started writing
religious exemptions for people,I started going to bat for
parents whose kids were gettingmasked up in school.
And you know, you just kind ofyou use your, you just kind of
you use your, you use yourinfluence to do good.
And people start saying, hey,we want to, like, we want to
help you whatever you do, and soso then I started thinking, OK,
well, where is that check andbalance that we should have had
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during the COVID stuff?
Well, the lieutenant governorreally has always been elected
by the delegates in the, in the,in the state convention.
But the delegates here's thedirty little secret that the
establishment has really beentelling us, or doesn't want us
to know it's the delegates aretold who to vote for, and so
I've been a delegate since 2016,.
I'm like I don't like beingtold who to vote for.
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Like stop telling me who tovote for.
And so I started asking thosequestions Like, why can't we
have a competition?
Oh, we don't do it that way.
Oh, that's not how we do it.
And I said, well, that's notgood enough for me.
And then, really so about ayear ago, I started.
A little over a year ago, Istarted laying the groundwork to
run for lieutenant governor,and we had a lot of influence
already around the state forbeing a voice for people who
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needed help during the pandemic,and so I just basically
answered the call.
It was a God thing.
I mean, God directs your steps.
The Bible says we can plan outour path, but God is the one who
directs our steps, and Godreally did that.
So, going into the convention,let me take you to the day of,
really the weekend of.
You know, it's kind of likewhen David ran up against
Goliath.
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People think that David was theunderdog, but he really wasn't.
David knew how to fight becauseGod had prepared him on the
Shepherd's Hill.
He had already taken down abear and a lion, and so.
So David was really confident.
And here's the other thingDavid was also previously
anointed by Samuel to be king ofIsrael.
So David knew essentially thathe was death proof because he
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wasn't king yet.
So he was running onto thatbattlefield with full confidence
that God was going to be withhim.
And you know, it was kind ofsomething like that too with me.
I could just see God's hand inour steps.
And all along the last year anda half, and I kind of went to
the convention with that sameconfidence like, hey, God's in
this.
And you know, I really thinkwe're going to win this, because
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this was even getting to theconvention as strong as we were,
I was like that's impossible,that should have never happened.
And yet it was happening.
And so I was like all right,Lord, you're in this.
So when I stepped out on thestage to give up my speech, I
wasn't nervous at all, it wasphenomenal.
I wasn't nervous at all, it wasphenomenal.
Oh, thank you.
And then you know what it was.
God's peace.
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I just said Lord, put me in thecenter of your will.
Win, lose or draw.
I just want to be in the centerof your will.
And then, so I almost missedthe announcement that I won.
I didn't, no, I just came outof the bathroom.
I was in the bathroom.
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I'm going to tell you, I was inthe bathroom, I was, I was in
the bathroom, I was, you know,and trust me, I it was one of
the most peaceful moments.
There was nobody else in thebathroom.
I was the first time I had beenaway from people for the whole
weekend.
I was like I could just stay inthe bathroom here for like.
So I come out and and they'relike someone grabbed me,
attached me on the shoulder,like hey, they're about ready to
announce and literally, as I Ifind my wife, susan, they, they
call, they call it right, andthe place erupts.
Yes, it did.
And um, now here's the thing.
(27:06):
I've been at convention before.
You know.
Randy had the, the chair of theconvention.
He wasn't actually announcingme as the winner when everyone
thought I wonder, yes, what hewas doing.
And this is how they always doit.
I think we probably need tochange it for future conventions
because it it makes more sensewell, he was just going
alphabetical, enlisting the vote.
Oh boy, and so had.
(27:28):
So, had we lost, that wouldhave been super awkward and not
not fun.
But so so he says, you know,lieutenant governor, you know,
uh, micah beckwith.
And the place just erupts Rightand I'm like saying hold up,
hold up.
I think he's just saying thevote.
Yeah, I don't think.
And then I'm like wait forRandy to be like I'm trying to
(27:49):
explain this, but then he walksoff the stage.
Now I do know that I probablywas the winner, because their
body language the whole time onthe stage was a little bit like
oh no, what just happened?
So I could see that coming andI was like I think we won this
thing because nobody was upthere excited on that stage.
Now I will say this after thefact Randy's been great.
(28:11):
Randy's the new chairman of thestate party.
He's really been such a teamplayer.
I love Randy.
I think he's going to do agreat job as chair in this
interim.
Whether he stays on longer ornot, I guess that's for him and
the bronze team to decide.
But and then the bronze teamhas been great too.
I mean, we, we really unifiedas a party, mike told me the
other day.
He said uh, he said, man, you,you're bringing a lot of energy
(28:32):
to the base, you're, you'rebringing back these
disenfranchised republicans, andso I think they're seeing the
beauty of what happened at theconvention.
Now here's the other thing thatI think we did in Indiana.
Let me explain this.
I'm a big federalist,federalism, guy.
I believe in state's authority.
So go back to the Constitution,the federal system of
(28:55):
government.
We were supposed to haverepresentation, but we had the
House of Representatives and theUS Senate.
The House was always supposedto represent the people and the
US Senate was supposed torepresent the states.
That's why the statelegislatures would elect the US
senators.
But we gave that up in the early1900s with the 17th Amendment.
It's one of the worstamendments ever made.
We need to repeal it.
The 16th Amendment income taxcould be the next one made.
(29:18):
We need to repeal it.
The 16th and then 16thamendment income tax could be
the next one.
So those are the two that wegot to repeal.
But so you know what we did inIndiana is we kind of brought
back federalism, because hereyou have Mike Braun, who was
elected by the people in May 7thin the primary, and then the
delegates represented somebodyto think about the party
apparatus, right To representthe party in the system.
(29:39):
And I think what the delegatesknow more than anybody else is
how's the health of theRepublican Party?
They're keyed into that, and sowhat they said Micah, we want
you to go into the battle for us, but remember the base of the
party.
Don't forget about us.
And I'm a base party guy, thatis my, that is my heartbeat, and
(30:00):
so we really sort of returnedIndiana into a little bit of a
federalistic kind of mindset,and so I think that's been, it's
been beautiful.
So that's a kind of a longstory, but that's kind of the
yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Thanks, micah.
Yeah, we were just talking tosomebody from our school board
and talking about how importantit is in leadership to have
diversity in your team, and Ithink that's something with
indiana going this way andputting you on there with mike
braun is just adds thisdiversity to the overall ticket
and able to capture the entireamount of voters across indiana.
(30:33):
So I'm super excited about that.
So we're both followers ofjesus and we both ran before.
We both lost All right, and weboth actually felt called to run
before, and this actuallystarted after that.
What would you give to somebody?
If you, if somebody, has ontheir heart to run for political
office, what would you?
(30:54):
What would you?
What advice would you give them?
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Do it.
I mean you don mean, don'tthink that winning is the
ultimate goal.
Winning an election is not thegoal I told people.
Listen, god called me to run.
I don't know if he called me towin, that's up to him, right
but I do know that when you run,you gain an influence.
You gain a platform, whetherit's big or small.
You have new influence, andwhat I do know is that god is
(31:20):
calling us to be influencers.
That's right, and we need totake truth into a world full of
lies, whether that's in yourfamily, whether that's in your
school, in your church, in yourcommunity, in your government,
it doesn't matter.
Just get out and influence.
You know that we we arestruggling in america with
freedom under attack.
I think we can all sayfreedom's under attack.
Well, what does the Bible sayabout freedom?
If you want it, you will knowthe truth, and the truth will
(31:43):
set you free, right.
So what's the key to freedom?
You got to know truth.
Well, how do you know truth Ifpeople of truth won't go out
there and speak the truth right?
So so I think anyone who'scalled to engage in politics, to
run for office, they should doit and recognize you're a true
speaker and that won't returnvoid.
(32:04):
God's word does not return void.
But there's two things here.
We've got to know truth.
Right now I think there arepeople running for office that
I'm like I don't think you knowtruth at all.
You wouldn't know truth if ithit you in the face, right?
So you've got to first knowtruth and then you've got to be
willing to speak it and you'vegot to be willing to take the
arrows because, remember, truthin a world full of lies will be
vilified.
Yeah, so my litmus test on howgood I'm doing is does the left
(32:28):
and those who hate God, do theyhate me?
If they hate me and the IndyStar is attacking me and the
media is attacking me, praise,attacking me like that, praise
the lord.
It just means I must be reallygood at speaking truth.
Right, if they don't hate you,I would say you might want to
check your.
Uh, you'll check yourselfbecause there's probably an
issue.
Yeah, right, you're compromised.
So, yeah, so that's that's tome, uh, the the litmus test that
(32:51):
I have.
So you gotta know truth andtruth will set you free.
And then hosea 4-6 says this itmy people perish for lack of
knowledge, knowledge.
So, again, one of the things Idid in this lieutenant
governor's race.
I just knew how the systemworks Right, and people,
especially in the establishment,when they found out what I was
doing, they were like he can'tdo this.
(33:12):
And then, like people who knewthe system, were like, well,
yeah, he can.
And then they were like, well,he found a loophole.
And they're like, well, it'snot really a loophole, it's just
he knew the system and he hadgotten away from it, so really
know the system, and then beatthem at their own game.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
And I think that's you know and you will.
And listen, I ran for Congressin 2020 and I lost.
But if I wouldn't have donethat, there's no way I would
have been able to run forlieutenant governor.
So it's all.
It's all about planting seed.
You know the kingdom principleslike this is.
This is what God always talksabout.
It's a, it's a principle of theseeds, right.
So you sow the seed, you reap aharvest, then you collect the
(33:49):
harvest and you sow more seedand you reap a bigger harvest.
So every time you engage alittle bit, you're sowing a
little seed.
Yeah, you're gonna reap aharvest.
Don't, don't just lose and thengo away say no, no, there was,
you got, you got, you got aharvest there, now re-sow it and
then something bigger is goingto come the next time.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
So, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, thank you, uh micah, somuch for uh joining us.
We are gonna have to have you onafter you have won, because you
guys are gonna win yeah youhave been, uh, an encouragement
to all of us and and you'reright, I I wrote immediately
after your win with the base.
This was a base win and thebase is fired up and they need
(34:26):
to be fired up because we needto win in november, that's right
.
So, uh, thank you so much forjoining us.
I know you're super busy.
Gotta get out there and, uh,kiss the babies and shake the
hands.
All right, thank you, micah.
So, folks, uh, that was micahbeck with, uh, the republican
nominee for lieutenant governor.
Super nice guy, obviously.
(34:46):
Very well spoken.
We're gonna have to have himback on the program again.
That was a lot of fun.
We are actually joined right nowby the chairman of the vigo
County Republican Party, randyGentry, and we're going to let
him talk a little bit, I think,about the national convention
which you're going to go to.
I really want to hear how cheapthis was, because I was
(35:12):
actually on record ascomplaining about the $150 that
we had to pay for Burson to goto the state convention, and
then I heard the price tag ongoing to to electron, which is
what this is about.
Yeah, um, and I was flatlyguessing.
So we're down to two mics I'mgoing to give you the mic, we'll
ask questions or whatever, andthen I can give you my mic.
Uh, okay, that's fine, allright.
(35:33):
So so talk to us about this.
What's, first of all, what'sthe process of being a delegate
for the National Convention?
I've always wondered this.
And talk to us about the cost?
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Yeah well, the first thing is how you become a
delegate to the NationalConvention.
So in the state of Indianathere's 113 members of the
Republican Party that go to theNational Convention.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Okay, how do they get ?
Speaker 4 (35:57):
it, and so each congressional district gets
three delegates and threealternates, and then the rest
are appointed by the state chair.
There are three, what we call.
They're really notsuperdelegates, it's something
that's loosely used, but it'sthe two committeemen.
(36:18):
There's a committee woman and acommittee man for each state
and the state party chairman.
So those are three guaranteed,and then the rest of them are
appointed.
So the process is I'd say itwas probably February the
(36:39):
chairman and the vice chairmanfrom the 8th Congressional
District got together and youbasically run.
It's like a campaign You'rerunning and they vote on it, and
so I'm very blessed.
This is going to be my fourthconvention, so I don't know if
I'm blessed or broke.
I'm probably both.
(36:59):
So we're going to talk a littlebit about money as well, but um,
the neat thing here for vigocounty never in the history of
vigo county and I think itstands to where we are as a
republican party today here inthe county we're taking three
delegates to the nationalconvention.
So there's been years that wedidn't have anybody.
(37:20):
We are the second largestcounty in the 8th congressional
district so, but there's 92counties in Indiana.
113 people get to go as part ofthe delegation and so we're
taking three.
So I'm pretty excited aboutthat.
So I'll be joined by Senator,state Senator Greg Good and
(37:41):
former State Senator John Ford.
So those gentlemen wereappointed.
I was elected.
So kind of a slightly differentpath to get to where we're
going.
But we're all going and we'reexcited.
So now it's a very, it's a veryexpensive endeavor.
So my first convention cost mealmost eight thousand dollars,
(38:05):
oh my God.
And so you know, you thinkabout that's a car, that's you
know, that's you know that's ayear's worth of mortgage
payments, whatever.
So you have to be dedicated todo this.
So, before I even leave VigoCounty to go to Milwaukee this
year, I'm right now around fivethousand two hundred dollars.
(38:26):
So, like I said, you got to bededicated.
It is a very unique experience.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Historic.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah, and it is your part of history.
Your names are going to be readinto the congressional record.
It's a neat experience and and,like I said, I will say that
I'm very blessed to be able tosay that this is my fourth one,
and the last one got canceled.
I'm not going to get into thestudents, get too sidetracked,
(38:56):
but I was actually working inthe White House, so I was going
to go on a different route thelast one but it was canceled
because of COVID.
So this is our first one sinceCOVID and people are really
fired up and obviously thenational political scene is hot
right now, so it's going to be alot of fun.
(39:17):
We're going to figure out whoour vice president's going to be
, we're obviously going tonominate Donald Trump, put him
back in the White House, and sogood things are ahead.
So we're going to be up therefor a week and looking forward
to it.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you've got a host ofstories we could talk about
sometime.
We were definitely going toneed to.
We should revisit the Andrewwinning the primary for state
rep story behind the scenessometime, but it probably would
get us canceled, so I don't knowif that's going to happen, but
so you've been real quick.
(39:52):
You've been a chairman of theRepublican party in Vigo County
for how many years?
Speaker 4 (39:58):
You know I've lost track.
I think it's about a dozenyears.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
And the salary you make from that takes care of
everything.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Yeah, zero, zero.
It's a volunteer position, so Ihonestly think I need to be
checked out and see why I keepdoing it.
It's fun.
I mean obviously you know I tellpeople it's it's really.
You know, just like tonight.
You know we throw money intothe hat.
You basically you're trying toenergize and you got to, you got
(40:26):
to believe in what you're doingor you're the wrong person for
the position.
So you, you have to do that.
But you know, even before Ibecame the county chairman, I
served as the vice chair of the8th Congressional District.
The county chairman I served asthe vice chair of the 8th
congressional district sat onthe state committee.
I kind of did things backwardsand then I was involved in local
politics and then I ended upbecoming the chair.
Matter of fact, the vacancy forthe chairman occurred, I
(40:50):
believe, when I was in Tampa, stPete, for that convention, and
so when I got back it was acaucus and that was my first run
for county chair.
So you know, I, like I said, Ihave multiple presidential
campaigns.
I could keep you guys busy forprobably you could do 18
(41:11):
episodes and I mean.
But I've worked for threepresidential campaigns, numerous
gubernatorial campaigns, soyeah, I've been around the world
doing this.
So a lot of fun and I'veenjoyed every minute of it, even
though the big paycheck isstill in the mail.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Well, we've really enjoyed being able to be here
today tonight at the fair.
We really appreciate yourhosting us here in the
Republican shed slash barn.
I call it the barn.
I call it the barn, thebackdrop is pretty cool with all
these signs of people that haverun in the past.
You know that Vigo County gotto vote on Because not all of
them are based in Vigo Countybut would have been on the
(41:50):
ballot.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
All right.
What we've tried to do is one.
It's very colorful, yeah, andyou know, so many times people
run and I've always said this aschairman and before I was
chairman is that when someonewants to run, they put their
name on the ballot.
You know, just because theydidn't win doesn't mean that
they haven't opened up a doorfor somebody else.
They may have made someprogress, uh, they may.
(42:12):
You know, they've helped theparty and and, and there's
really no better way to do thatthan to put your name on the
ballot and it's, if they reallyto be honest with you I don't,
I'm not sure there's any otherthing you can do within a party
politics then that's greaterthan actually running.
So what I wanted to do iscreate a tribute and a
(42:34):
historical record of all thepeople that have run over the
years.
Now, I started this probablyabout five or six years ago, but
I have yard signs that go back20-some odd years, so we've
nailed them and screwed them andput them all up here on the
wall.
It's colorful, it's cool, it'slike a walk down memory lane
(42:56):
every time you walk in, so it'sfun.
But hey, guys, I really thankyou for joining us tonight.
This has been a huge crowd.
Obviously got the nextlieutenant governor with you
tonight too, and so what a night.
And for the GOP and I'm justexcited this November is going
to be a great great time.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
It cannot get here soon enough, that is for sure.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Well, thanks guys, I appreciate you, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
All right, so we're probably going to wrap up here
fairly short Did you have anyquestions?
Come through Well.
So this is the first time thatone question, one viewer, yeah,
oh, that's good.
Well, here's the deal.
A lot of folks are going towatch this after the fact.
Yeah, and it's going to takeconsistency of going live at a
(43:45):
certain time for us to build theaudience, which is fine.
Yeah, I think going live is theway to go.
I totally want to do this nexttime.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
I agree.
Hopefully it will be two weeksfrom tonight.
Yeah, six thirty, that's that'sprobably the best time for us,
so that's likely when we'll doit.
It's really great because weget to talk about current events
that happened right then.
They could have happened anhour before the show.
We could literally becommenting on it, and it's not
stale and old, it shows up.
(44:15):
What did you take away fromthat conversation with the
lieutenant governor?
Speaker 1 (44:23):
So I love this story about David and I think almost I
would even add to it for him,because before David actually
went out on the battlefield,they tried to put Saul's armor
on him Remember that, trying toput the armor of the old on top
of him, but he didn't need itbecause he was already prepared.
And I thought I think that'sreally interesting with Micah in
(44:46):
the fact that he's coming froma different angle, yeah, and
he's not taking the armor of theprevious, yeah, and I don't
know.
I think it was really cool andyou know, I love his perspective
on losing, I mean, and theinfluence that comes from that.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Well, I have seen that happen.
I've talked about this in thepast.
You know, when I ran forCongress, I was running for one
reason.
God had me running for anotherand it was honestly a phenomenal
thing that happened.
God's deliver.
Running for another, it washonestly a phenomenal thing that
happened.
God's deliverance for me.
Boy, it felt painful losing.
It wasn't what I was lookingfor.
(45:25):
I wouldn't trade it, obviously,for anything in the world the
second time.
I'm still not sure exactly whyI ran for state rep.
Honestly, Jimmy, this podcastprobably would not have happened
, Me and you being able to worktogether.
I think we figured out we kindof work well together and
there's no way I want to do thispodcast without you.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
So if you quit, I'm going to be pretty upset.
I wasn't planning on quitting.
I'm hoping you don't.
I wasn't planning on quitting.
I feel like we do.
You know people are like, whatare you talking about yourselves
for?
But I do feel like we work welltogether.
It's a good workingrelationship and that's
something that is a fruit ofwhat's come out and, honestly, a
lot of our viewers a lot ofpeople don't know this, but a
(46:08):
lot of the viewers and peoplethat watch or listen to the
podcast directly came from thatcampaign.
Yeah, I mean, it's directlyconnected to it.
Yeah, so we're waiting still togo viral.
I mean, I don't even know whatthat is, but we're hoping to go
viral for something.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
We've been antiviral for a while.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Maybe that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
You work at a hospital.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Maybe that's the problem.
Antivirals oh that's so, dad.
That's such a dad joke.
That is just awful.
Well, I guess we'll probably goahead and wrap up.
Yeah, I think it's good.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
We appreciate you all being here Absolutely, and we
plan on doing more livebroadcasts and interviews.
We're going to work this stuffout, and it was near seamless
today, except for the one mic,yeah, but other than that, I
think this has worked out reallywell.
We appreciate you being here.
Watch for when we pop up onYouTube for a live one, because
(46:57):
you're going to get informationthat's happening that day.
We would rather be able to giveinterviews and make it
unscripted so that, uh, you canwatch it and have something
that's not maybe a couple daysold.
Uh, because we think that'sreally important.
Fresh and, uh, yeah, we're realhot in here.
I'm not saying that we're freshright now, but but we
(47:18):
appreciate you being here.
If you have any questions, haveany comments, have anything any
place you want us to go livenext time?
The.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
MC Squared podcast at gmailcom.
We're going to do live again.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
We absolutely are.
If you've got a cool place forus the MC Squared podcast at
gmailcom.
The MC Squared podcast atgmailcom.
We the MC squared podcast atgmailcom.
The MC squared podcast atgmailcom.
We both get that email and giveus a spot to go live where
there's a crowd.
Hopefully there's not a bandplaying in the background next
time, but a bunch of peoplearound is always cool because
you get the nice ambiance ofVigo County fair.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
And we're going to go get you know some fair food
here shortly.
If you and if you're here atVigo County, stop, uh, if you
and if you're here in vigocounty, stop by the vigo county
fair.
It is, it is.
I didn't want to say this andprobably nobody's listening at
this point it's almost an hourbut somebody might be listening.
But listen, this is a greatfair, this is a great county
fair.
I have been a part of othercounty fairs and let me just say
(48:11):
that, not to get around, not todisparage that the others, but
I will say this is a greatfairground.
It is clean, uh, the, the, thecrowd is just a good, family
friendly crowd.
Uh, lots of 4-h'ers.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
It's got great events out in the arena and honestly,
I'm it's, it's just a fantasticplace to say I love that
perspective because a lot ofpeople don't know what they have
.
Yeah, right, no it.
No, it's true, yeah it's true,good.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
So, folks, once again , thank you so much for
listening, watching.
We ask that you would subscribe, share, please subscribe.
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