Terre Haute in the national News! Ep.32

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the MC Squared Podcast.
This is episode number 32.
Thanks for being with us.
We had a little bit of a break,but that just allows the topics
to build up, Build up yeah Overthe last few weeks it's been,
and I'm the only one wearingheadphones in this situation.

(00:20):
That's fine.
I don't really know why, but itsounds better to me and it's
kind of like my hat.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
How are?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
you doing, Andrew?
It's like you're doing aninterview.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
And you're like representing Texas here.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I am because we just got back from a trip to San
Antonio, texas, which I'd neverbeen.
I'd been to Dallas many, many,many years ago but never been
that far south.
I went to visit my brother and,uh, his family and got to go,
uh, to his new golf businessshort games.

(00:51):
That was really fun and, uh, Iwent and saw the alamo, which is
a big deal for me.
I really enjoyed that and riverwalk down there in san antonio
for those who are familiar withthat area and eat some good food
and actually we ate so muchgood food felt like just wanted
to take a couple of days.
I mean, we got back and not eatat all but got a little bit of a
cold on the way back and uh,actually I've hit the ground

(01:14):
running with my work and justkind of it just has felt like I
still am a little disoriented.
So hopefully the podcast isn'tgoing to be too crazy.
I just feel a little not invacation mode, just kind of like
my world is just Spinning.
It was so hot down there, justthis one, you say, how hot was
it?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
How hot was it Andrew ?
Yeah, we should have plannedthat one out.
How hot was it, andrew?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
It feels like it felt like at times like you were in
an oven or a frying pan and I'mnot not always In the evening.
It was real cool.
There was a nice breeze oneevening.
It gets kind of cool at night.
Holy cow, the heat.
It was just really.
It was warm.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, but you know what Everybody always says it's
a dry heat right.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, and the humidity wasn't bad, I will say
that, but it felt like you wereclose to the sun.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, you are slightly closer, so it didn't
matter.
You are slightly closer to thesun closer to the equator.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
But it was interesting.
A lot of different landscape.
It was like a different world.
So it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
So what about this?
I'm intrigued by his golfbusiness.
The short game, yes.
So what's that about?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
So it's like a not glorified but an expanded
driving range covered and it'sgot indoor bays, but the whole
place has got this software.
So when you're at the drivingbay you pay for a bay and it
automatically feeds you the ball, which is really cool.
It runs on a software where youcan golf like almost any course

(02:46):
in the world.
You could just you punch thatin and so it tracks like you're
you're on that golf course, soyou're very accurate with your
swings and all that stuff.
I mean you can do the putting,the chipping, everything there.
Um, so that's really cool.
They also have a lot ofinstruction.
So he's an instructor, he's gottwo bays that are like huge
garage doors and it's got allthese cameras.

(03:08):
In fact I've got a couple thathe sent me.
I can't show it here and Idon't want to show it here
actually because it's meswinging the golf club, so it
doesn't run the family.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
He's a golf instructor.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, no it doesn't, but I did beat him in putt-putt
because in the indoor you canplay a putt-putt course and it's
absolutely crazy.
They serve food.
It's really really cool, butit's just been open since
January.
That was what was going onthere.
We spent a couple of days thereand he's actually making good

(03:43):
wings for snacks.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Oh, nice, it was actually really good.
Nice, the wings were reallygood.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
That's really cool, and pizza and stuff like that no
, that was an absolute blast.
And we didn't have to pay foranything either, because my
brother owns the business.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Oh, that's nice, so that was what was cool.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
But it's not actually that expensive yeah.
And you did the classic dadthing which, yeah, and you did
the classic dad thing, which wasyou bought the hat and the
shirt represents the state I didand I wore it when I was down
there.
My wife is like you're notsupposed to do that you wear a
hat from somewhere else thatyou've been you do.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
The one that has indiana says, yeah, well, I have
colorado, I don't want to wearit.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, colorado, yeah, but it didn't happen, I didn't
care, so well done.
I'm not a fashion person yeah,yeah.
Anyway, we've got a ton oftopics and it kind of we titled
this um this episode.
Uh, terre Haute makes thenational news Cause there's a
couple of national news stories,um, actually one positive, one

(04:39):
negative?

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Oh well, it matters which way you're looking at it.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well, one's a positive.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
One's a positive for sure, yeah, and you think the
other one's a negative, I don'treally know what the other one
is.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
I have an idea but Okay, yeah, well, let's start
with the positive.
So Richard Goodall, a janitorin the Vigo County School
Corporation, was on America'sGot Talent.
Yeah, and locally this is bignews it really is.
So locally people watching thisare not going to be surprised.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
No, they've all been watching it this whole time.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
But we have folks that listen to this podcast.
I mean all over the place.
At least like in Illinois Atleast, so they may not know this
.
So when I first, did you watchhim at all on the show?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I watched the very first.
Well, we watched the playbackof it because I didn't know he
was going out for it, yeah, soeverybody saw the first song
that he did and I didn't reallyfollow it much, but every time
it seemed like every couple ofweeks, whenever they would have
an episode he would like doreally well, yes, and then it
just became really apparent thathe was like one of the top.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Well, I think he had two, three things going for him
and, first of all, his voice wasincredibly good, yeah, and he
sounded like to me, you know,the lead singer of journey and
he did a lot of the journeysongs, which is kind of my.
I kind of liked that.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
I didn't be honest.
That's okay, that's good, it'sgood stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
In between my worship meeting.
No, I'm just kidding, I don'tAnyway.
So his voice really good, Imean really good, but he's also
very humble, extremely, andabout the nicest person you
could.
I've not met him, but everybodythat has come in contact with
him or known him over the yearssaid he's one of the nicest
people you could ever meet.

(06:24):
So I think he had a lot goingfor him in that respect.
I mean, how can you not likethat and root for him and cheer
for him?
So his first one was I thinkthe first time he sang was like
a home run.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
They gave him the golden ticket, whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
I don't watch the show that much.
I did watch it with him some.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
But yeah, yeah, he went through multiple levels.
It's kind of a big contrast toa lot of people on there because
if you're going on america'sgot talent, you're going on
there because you believe youhave talent right, and so you
probably have a little bit of,don't have as much humility as
he would have right, if youbelieve you have talent and you,
if you believe you have enoughto go on a show like that to do
well.
And it just really seems likehe stayed humble the entire time

(07:09):
.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
And I think he will.
I mean, it's just so.
He did Terre Haute Proud and hewon.
He actually won Crazy.
Now I will say, at the very endthe only thing I watched was
between him.
At the very end it was betweenhim and a dog act.
Now Drew watched.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
You watched it right.
Did you watch the dog act?
Yeah, I saw the dog act.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Drew, what did you think it was good?
It was actually kind of crazyhow she turned that dog to me,
so Jumping off her back, that'sgreat.
I didn't watch it.
I thought there's no way hegets beat by a dog act.
Well, it's like.
So I remember american idol.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Everybody's saying this is like you got random
stuff going yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
So a dog act versus a singer, I mean like yeah, but
anyway, um, it was, it wasawesome, he won fantastic.
So the negative part of thatpositive story.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yes, okay, I know where you're going is no.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
no, we've got a negative national story besides
this, but let's finish up withRichard.
So, first of all, from the show.
We've never met you, butcongratulations, richard.
If you ever come across thepodcast at C-Squared,
congratulations.
You did Terre Haute proud.
We're all very proud of you andvery, very grateful for your

(08:22):
attitude, and it speaks well ofyou.
It does.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
But the payout, Jimmy .
Yeah, I saw on the payout theyadvertise it as what.
One million.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
So win a million dollars.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Win a million dollars and a car.
Oh, I didn't know about the car, but anyway, there's been some
talk about that and I think thathis humility and it's based
upon votes right, people votefor you and so people probably
think like a million dollarscould really affect this, change
this guy's life, and so let'svote for him.

(08:55):
Plus, he's a good singer, yeah,but it's really interesting
because the million is notreally what you think a million
would be.
It actually comes, is actuallypayable in a financial annuity
over 40 years, or okay.
So, or the contestant canchoose to do a cash value payout
of such annuity, which I thinkall of us would probably opt for

(09:16):
that.
And so what is?
That, jimmy, it's $300,000after taxes about.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
I heard it was before taxes.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Oh well, I thought it was after taxes, Let me see if
I've got.
Let's see Break down cash value.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Break it down who had that $700,000.
Drew can't.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Okay, but if you don't take that though I know
Drew can't, but if you don'ttake it, it's $25,000 a year for
40 years.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
That $25,000 a year for 40 years.
That guy's not going to livefor probably 40 more years.
Well, no, they said he'd be90-some years old by the time he
got done paid out.
Yeah, I like Richard, but Idon't know what kind of health
he's in to make it 40 more years.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
But I mean it's not all about spending the money, I
mean it's for the nextgeneration too.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
So a friend of mine, retired pastor Aaron Wheaton,
posted this on Facebook todaythat's what kind of where I, if
I can find yeah, here we go, ohyeah, and he he's posting it
from somebody else.
But so here it is.
Uh good, all getting 1 million,but the payout is 25,000 per
year for 40 years, which wouldmake him 95 when it finished.

(10:22):
Or take the cash payment,estimated to be 300,000 pre-tax.
See, it's like a lottery If youthink about it.
So pre-tax, so with your lottery, if you, if they say same thing
with the lottery, if you win amillion dollars, right, it's a
million.
If you take the payout, if youtake the payments every year,
yeah, it's a million.
If you choose not to take themillion, it's $300,000 or

(10:45):
something like that.
Then you get taxed.
You never, you're not.
If you do the cash payout, hewasn't ever going to get a
million, yeah, so it's $300,000before tax.
And now this show is inCalifornia.
Oh, I pay California tax.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yes, so it is.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Because he's paying California and with a gift tax,
so he's I mean it's not much,just giving it back After a
while you're paying them to godo the show, but he's really
going to make his money fromother acts he's going to do
later on, possibly.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, I think he'll get some and maybe someone will
sign him to a contract and allthat kind of stuff.
People are going to want tohear him sing.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
This is just a little bit of a start-up he's got the
fame, he's got the notorietyfrom it, so you should be able
to help that.
Propel you onto something morefinancially.
What do you think?
Maybe $150,000?
Is what he's actually going towalk away with?

Speaker 1 (11:39):
I don't know, that's almost misleading advertising.
Well as long as gavin newsomgets his in california.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
So they start with 300 000 and then they put it in
an annuity and they give you apayment of 25 000 a year off of
it until you get to a million.
So that's, that's how they theyare able to do that oh, I get
you.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
I thought I thought it broke it down to no.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
So then if you get a payout where you want it all at
once, you get the $300.
That's it, and you don't get amillion.
But then the taxes on a lumpsum payment are over 50% of a
gift tax.
It's a gift tax or asweepstakes Any of those people
on the shows the Wheel ofFortune or all the same thing

(12:26):
with them.
Whatever they win, it's likehalf.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
And it's a lot of them are in California too.
Yeah, that they walk away with.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Anyway.
So that's kind of the dark side.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Everybody knows that, though going into it, yeah you
do, and it's really just likehe's really going to make his
money later on.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Right, right Plus I mean it was free to be honest.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Well, he had to put it $150,000.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, exactly, well, he put a lot of work into it.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Do you think they flew him out there and
everything?
No, from what?

Speaker 2 (12:52):
I heard I think he had to have a GoFundMe to help
sustain all the travel, all theeffort and all the work put into
it, and I think there was also.
He said on the news that he hada lot of vacation days saved up
so he was able to afford to dothat.
He was still getting a paycheckfrom his janitorial work.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Somebody said he's going to quit being a janitor.
Is that true?
I don't know.
Well, does he lose insurance?
I have no idea, I mean he losesinsurance.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
That's what I'm no idea.
Yeah, I mean he loses insurance.
That's what I'm worried about.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
I'm concerned about his insurance.
He doesn't.
I mean he looks, he doesn'tlook really healthy.
Okay, just throwing it outthere.
I mean You're the healthcareguy, so Well, you don't have to
have health insurance, but Imean, he goes in the hospital
for one little thing.
I'm sorry.
No, it's true, 150 be gonepretty quick.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Well, maybe he got married while he was out there
this last week.
So that was kind of cool, allright.
So national news, so that wasgreat, big deal.
We also have a negative and itis unfortunate.
So ISU, indiana StateUniversity, had a speaker

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scheduled to come and speak tothem.
It was Rich Lowry, which he islike.
He's kind of like.
He's a conservative, he's onthe, he's an editor and a
journalist for National Review,he's on Fox News.

(14:26):
A lot and a lot of thesedifferent media shows.
They'll go to him aboutpolitics and things like that.
Have you ever seen him before?
I have not.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
no, Nobody heard about the story.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
I'm very familiar with him, at least to the extent
that I've seen him forever onthese panels.
I think there's even beenelection nights where he's, you
know, been a part of it, orwhatever.
Um, rich Lowry is nobody'sradical, he is conservative, but
he's not, uh, what I would termin any way a firebrand, um and

(15:01):
ISU.
So what happened was he wasdoing an interview and maybe I
can read it a little bit of itin his own words Um, the huge
controversy over absolutelynothing, but it's kind of
indicative of the hatred and thecensorship that's tried, it's,
it's always out there for forconservatives.
Um, so he was in a uh, uh, aninterview with Megan Kelly and

(15:26):
he was talking about the Haitianmigrants oh, uh, because that
was a big, that's a big deal,it's a big political story and
he mispronounced, pronounced itas I mispronounce, pronounce.
That's pretty funny.
Um, he mispronounced it and hesaid, uh, let, pronounced it and

(15:48):
he said uh, let's, let me seehere it is uh, okay, so he goes
on the megan kelly show, he goes.
I was, um, and I'm going to tryto explain this how he said,
but he was discussing thespringfield ohio controversy and
, in course of saying haitianmigrants, he goes.
I started to mispronounce theword migrants.
I began to say it with a shortI, so migrants I don't know the
way you say immigrants.
Instead of saying the long Ithat you use for migrants, he

(16:14):
goes.
I caught myself in the middlebefore shifting to the correct
pronunciation.
So what I said you might callthe M word.
You can try to look up the Mword, but you will fail because
it's not a word, let alone aracial slur.
So he stumbled over his wordsand it got blown way out of
proportion.
It was NPR.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
He goes if you want to go to the absurd Zapruder
film links.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
You know the JFK film he goes.
You could slow down the clipand hear clearly that what I
said begins with the M and blah,blah, blah.
So he mispronounced this.
It got crazy.
He was scheduled to speak atisu and they canceled him.
And their statement oh, I'vegot it, I've got.
You got to read their statementif you've got it.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Oh, it's really good.
It says this is what they said.
The indiana state universityspeaker series has a proud
tradition of featuring speakersfrom multiple walks of life,
representing a range ofpolitical, cultural and
experiential.
Don't ask me to say the word.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Perspectives, so many perspectives.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Stated by the university.
We are actively working toidentify opportunities to invite
a speaker with a proven historyof promoting intellectually
diverse viewpoints to thespeaker series which will be
announced at a later date.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
So don't hold your breath, right?
So, in other words, give thestatement of why they canceled
him.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
It is important to stress that this cancellation is
not intended to limit, oh, ourneutrality on different
political viewpoints.
Oh, here it is.
Indiana State Universityremains firmly committed to
fostering intellectual diversity, encouraging the respectful
exchange of ideas from multipleperspectives.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
But why?

Speaker 1 (18:09):
That is the biggest.
Yes, it is Okay.
Indiana State University.
Did you use AI to write that?
Seriously your professorsdidn't write that, all right.
They did not write that that'sAI, all right, okay, but there's
a line in there that you didn'tread, oh there's more.
Yes, there's more.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
So this is his quote from their statement.
I was scheduled to speak atIndiana State University in a
couple of weeks, but theuniversity has scrapped my
parents' quote in light ofrecent developments and
following the advice of ourpublic safety officials
regarding campus and communitycommunity safety concerns.
So they cited the fact that, um, it was unsafe to have this guy

(18:52):
on campus.
Now, um, that's absolutelyridiculous.
And what he said and this iswhat's sad for our university,
for our local area is taking theside of a woke online fringe
and giving it what it wants onthe basis of almost a certainly
non-existent security threat,doesn't speak to political

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neutrality.
Right, they're not beingneutral.
No, they would never do this toa left-wing speaker.
They're not being neutral.
No, they would never do this toa left-wing speaker.
However, say that they'regenuine.
I don't think they are, but saythere's genuine and there was a
serious security threat becausethis guy mispronounced migrant.
I still have no idea the racialslur.
What in the world, if there isa real security threat and I'm

(19:36):
quoting from him here what doesthat say about Indiana State
University If the young peopleunder its care and tutelage are
liable to storm a lecture hallif he shows up.
That's an indictment of them,not me, is the unquote, and he's
right.
That's just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
It just goes to show why Indiana State University
Unfortunately for our area, butI mean they are They've been
swirling.
Their freshman admissions havebeen down, I mean, and now
they're grasping At straws bydoing crazy stuff Like this.
They're very partial.
They're trying to act likethey're impartial.

(20:16):
I mean, come on, you thinkanybody buys that, though.
I mean seriously.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
come on, do you think anybody buys that, though I
mean seriously.
What's funny is I mean theycould maybe pull this off if it
was Trump.
I mean Trump's had twoassassination attempts on his
life.
There's currently, you know,threats against his life on a
daily basis, and all of themfrom left-wing nuts, by the way,
and so I can see with an actualsecurity concern when you have

(20:43):
someone like the president, theformer president of the united
states, rich lowry is 95 of thecampus didn't know this guy was
even coming on campus.
Nobody's even heard of thespeaker series because it's
probably full of left-winglunatics that come in?
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
I mean, and so nobody cares.
I mean.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
So, speaking of public education, because I want
to segue into this because ElonMusk tweeted out or X'd out or
posted on X.
I mean, I honestly don't evenknow how it's supposed to be
said.
I feel like it's posted on X,but I just don't want to say he
tweeted it.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Is that wrong?
No, I think it's okay to saytweet.
Everybody understands,everybody knows what I'm saying,
X'd it.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
So he tweeted out a graphic.
This is really fascinating andI actually looked up the study
and read through some of it, soI understand the statistics
based here.
So, and it is professors.
The headline of it isprofessors are democrats.
Therefore, quote expertsunquote are democrats too, and

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it gives the percentage uh jimmyof of professors in these
fields in colleges, majorcolleges, the percentages of
democrat versus republican.
I mean, without seeing thegraphic, would anybody want to
guess?
Guess what those percentagesare?

Speaker 1 (22:04):
I'm interested in.
What kind of colleges are these?
So they?

Speaker 2 (22:09):
looked yes, these are all major you would recognize
all the names.
These are major universities,government-funded colleges, and
a lot of them are East Coast.
Oh Okay, so they surveyed 5,100professors.
So these are professors,tenured professors, by the way,
these are folks who are securein their job.

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They've been there for a while.
Among the communicationsprofessors, 100% were Democrats.
Anthropology was 100%.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
How do you get 100% in a survey?
What's the N?
Did they give you an N on this?

Speaker 2 (22:46):
What do you mean?
The number of people?

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yes, 5,100.
5,100 total and 100% ofcommunications.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
So in engineering was the best and engineering was
about 61% were Democrat.
The rest were republicans.
And I actually read some of thestatistics that they did and so
basically they would take saythere were um, say, were there
200 professors in a in a certainuh field, and they would

(23:14):
question them?
Uh, probably 80 would say theywere Democrats.
Probably 10% were notregistered to vote, so they just
, you know, they weren'tregistered to vote, so it just
didn't even matter.
And then the other, likeanother 10%, were registered to
vote, democrat or wereregistered to vote, said, you
know, said they wereunaffiliated but they were
registered to vote.
And then you'd have one or 2%that were Republicans.

(23:37):
Now that is, and this is acrossthe board.
Now this was also done in 2018,so it's not gotten better since
2018.
This was a little bit a whileago and this was a lot of the
east coast schools.
I mean, there's some majorschools.
I had the list somewhere.
Um, is this science?
It was actually a veryscientific study, but does this

(23:59):
mean ISU is this way?
I would be really interested ifthere was a serious polling of
the ISU professors.
From what I've understood fromstudents who've gone there, from
folks who sit on boards.
It is a very high percentage ofthe college professors who are
left-wing activists.
They are, for sure, democrats.

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Now, what's what's terribleabout this is parents send these
kids to these colleges and anda lot of them don't realize that
they really.
I know you, you and I payattention, we think you know,
you should know this, but a lotof people don't pay attention to
understand and, and left-wingactivists means their goal is
not as much to educate yourchild in communications or

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anthropology or religion.
It is to indoctrinate them inthe most important thing that
these folks believe, and that isliberalism or socialism or
Marxism.
It is the most important thingto these folks, folks.
And so your kids will go thereeither apolitical, uh,
moderately political, evensometimes conservative, and they

(25:05):
will come out believing themost crazy left-wing wacko
things about america, aboutsociety, um, about politics, and
these folks feel like they'vedone their job and you're in and
these parents are paying forthis, or these kids are paying
for this, or these kids arepaying for this and they're not
getting an education.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Not really.
The taxpayers are paying for alot of it, that's true.
I don't want to go down arabbit hole with this, but
there's a spot that we could goreally quick.
Is number three on that list ofprofessors, that Religion.
Yeah, yeah, that's interesting,isn't it?
I don't think it is.
Yeah, I don't think it'sinteresting.

(25:43):
I think it is absolutely inline.
How many times, andrew, havesome, has somebody said to you
before you know, because youhave high values, or because
maybe you don't cuss at work, orbecause maybe you try to be
nice to everybody at work, theysay, well, he's just a real
religious person, right?
Man it burns me, yeah, and Ithink it's from people not

(26:06):
really understanding what theroot of religion is.
Right, religion's not of God.
Right, it's made by man.
Right, and it's been the thingthat's perverted god for from
the very beginning, absolutely,and it's the thing that jesus
fought against.
And it's just crazy that numberthree on this list
communications, anthropology,religion yeah, english sociology

(26:31):
is actually under that, and youwould never guess that.
But these are quote-unquotereligious professors, right,
right.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
And so do you think they've got a positive view of
Christianity when they'reteaching these kids?

Speaker 1 (26:45):
No, I think.
Let's read the numbers.
I think they're 98.59% wereDemocrats.
I think they're very religious,yeah, and I think that's the
problem.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, but anyway, no, you're right.
Yeah, yeah, that's the problem.
Yeah, yeah, but anyway, no,you're right.
Yeah, yeah, so that's, uh,that's something that's, you
know, I mean I don't want to getinto it tonight.
Sometime we should.
I've always said sometime weshould, I don't know um we
should talk about education.
Well, we should talk abouteducation someday.
We're not going to tonight, wedon don't have time for it.

(27:18):
It's a huge subject, but let mejust say this and just kind of
put this out there just to liketick people off but I thought
about this, I thought about thisfor a while and it's.
I believe this, I believe thisthe public education in America

(27:40):
has devolved into a cult.
It is devolved into a cult.
And what do you have when youhave cult followers?
Can you present facts to them?
No, any criticism.
And immediately they circle thewagons and you're persecuting
me.
They follow like, uh, blindsheep.
Whatever their organization,whether it's a teacher's union

(28:03):
or whether it's nea nationaleducation association or the
department of education,whatever those folks say, they
follow like blind sheep.
It is a cult.
In the meantime, there are a lotof parents concerned, parents
who are looking at these results, and educators by the way,
there's a lot of good teachersout there who see through the
smoke and mirrors and they'renot cult followers and they look

(28:25):
at the results and they go yeah, my high schooler can't read.
Let's look at every availablemetric there is, whether it's
not just test scores.
I mean people, they rip on testscores.
Okay, well, whatever, I mean itwasn't bad 20, 30 years ago,
but test scores SAT scores, actscores, reading competency,

(28:48):
history quizzes, the knowledgeof what our forefathers are, how
our government works or any ofthese things how to be a good
citizen in today's society, andevery metric, jimmy, we are
failing and getting worse andworse and it's not even close
and it is not connected to money.
Some of the worst schools arethe best funded schools.

(29:10):
Some of the best public schoolsare very underfunded, but you
got folks in charge that havedecided they're not going to put
up with this stuff.
Discipline has gone out thewindow window.
The classrooms are out ofcontrol some great teachers have
nothing to work with as far assupport a lot of great teachers.
Yeah, yeah.
So we don't want to get into ittonight.

(29:30):
We're not going to go down therabbit hole, blah, blah, blah,
but it's true.
This is a serious.
If we want to fix america andand do, the education system has
to get fixed and we have to bebrutally honest with ourselves
of what has not been working.
Otherwise, we're just kiddingourselves.
We're just throwing more money,bad money or good money after

(29:54):
bad money.
I'm off my soapbox.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Wow, yeah, you really got on it there.
I thought about that a littlebit.
So I'm off my, I'm off mysoapbox.
Wow, yeah, you really got on it.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
I thought about that a little bit, so we've lost the
two teachers that were watchingus.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
No, they're the good ones.
They are, they're the good ones.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
They are Absolutely and I really feel for them.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
I mean there's a lot of.
I mean there's a lot of peoplethat they went in to teaching
because they wanted to make adifference, just like people
that go into, you know, let'ssay, healthcare.
They want to make a difference.
They go in to make a difference, and I do think there's a lot
of people fighting battles outthere, but they're getting wins.

(30:33):
They're getting wins for thenext generation.
They are, they're rescuing kids, right.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Absolutely, it's a safety net.
I mean, these people are asafety net, but system-wide they
aren't beating it.
They may be, like you said,they're pulling some kids out of
the fire.
They're saving the ones thatcome through their classroom,
you know, for what they can do.
Absolutely, that's great In themeantime, but that's all.

(31:01):
The hundreds of thousands ofkids are are having their lives.
You know they're not beingprepared.
Well, they're, they're beingcomplete.
I mean, colleges now haveinstituted I mean this this
alone should tell us, jimmycolleges now have instituted
remedial courses for almostevery freshman coming in to get

(31:22):
them quote to college level.
And college level isn't what itused to be.
Yeah, it just isn't.
Um, and we're like, at whatpoint do we stop saying it's the
republicans because theyhaven't been funding us, they're
against education, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah, when
every person in that I've evertalked to cares about kids.

(31:45):
We all care.
Even though my kids don't go topublic school, I care about the
kids going to public school.
I want them to know how to read, well, I want them to know the
history of the United States.
I want them to be good citizenswhen they graduate.
I want them to be able to read.
I, when they graduate, I wantthem to be able to read.
I might've said that alreadyand I mean, it's just, but

(32:07):
they're not.
And yeah, my taxpayers are, taxdollars are paying for it, and
yours are too, and everybody'sare.
And they're asking for moremoney and they're acting like
it's because we aren't givingthem money.
And we all know if we're, ifwe're honest with ourselves.
We all know that that is notthe truth.
That is not the case.
It is not because they're notgetting more money.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
I think it's even way deeper than that.
I think it's the degradation ofthe family.
Yes, because when you didn'thave as much as that, teachers
could actually just do their jobinstead of being caretakers,
being mentors, being thatparents should be doing for
their kids.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Absolutely.
Think about it A little.
Johnny 40 years ago would actup in class, I mean generally
he'd get his rear end beat whenhe got home?

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, probably at school, and then when he got
home too Exactly Nowadays.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
First of all, little Johnny's never been told no at
home.
He's a holy terror in theclassroom.
They can't really deal with himand if they do, the parents
show up angry.
Yeah, absolutely.
But that is the result of 30 or40 or 50 years of public school
education.
That has taught us liberalchild rearing liberal, this

(33:18):
liberal that I mean.
The spirit of the child is tobe free and just move and have
no restraints.
And that's not life, that's notreality, it's not biblical,
it's.
There's nothing about that thathas brought good fruit.
So so, with the experiment ofliberalism, now is the time to
begin to turn the tide and sayand a lot of parents are, I will

(33:38):
say this.
So this sounds really negative,but the truth is, a lot of
parents have woken up and havepulled their kids out of public
school.
They are homeschooling them,they're sending them to
christian schools, they're doingwhatever they can to be
involved in that child's lifeand they're make, they are
making a huge difference and,honestly, that is how we're
going to turn it, turn the tide.
I'd love to see the schoolsystem totally, totally

(34:02):
overhauled.
I would love to see thedepartment of education or the
top down system eliminated andlocal communities being complete
control of their public schoolsystem yeah, they really should
be awesome.
They really should be.
Yeah, and I think you can cut alot of the administrators.
I think you get rid of a lot ofthem.
You certainly don't need anequity or whatever the diversity

(34:23):
officers and you don't need asuperintendent making 200,
$300,000 a year.
I mean, seriously, you just youdon't need any of that stuff.
And I get back to the basics,but that's just me, so it's
going to take.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
it's going to take a couple of generations to it me
so it's gonna take.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
It's gonna take a couple generations to.
It's gonna take some, somepeople, radical and willing to,
to make the make the choice butI think it'll swing I do too, I
think.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
I think it's so bad right now, I think things swing,
but I think I think I believewe're on the upside.
Yeah, I do, I think I thinkwe're on the other side well, I
mean, and the more people andI'm not saying that to do this
because people, some people justcan't do it, but the more
people that get frustrated withit, yeah, the less dollars to go
to it.
So it makes you think, justlike any business, you stop
getting customers.

(35:05):
You're what I have to do tochange right and so I think it
will drive change.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
That's the hope and that's always been the.
The idea that a lot of therepublicans have had uh with the
school system and I know thisjust riles a lot of people that
I know in the education system,you know because.
But the truth is, competitionbrings a better result.
And just to what you said, buta lot of educators, they're very

(35:32):
angry about that.
They don't want charter schools, they hate homeschoolers, they
don't want, you know, christianschools.
They roll their eyes andwhatever, and they feel like
that's they like and they willsay that is what is undermining
public education and it'snonsense.
It's, that's nonsense and thereality is Hmm, okay, I'm just

(35:53):
going to let it, we're going tostay off of that.
But the competition is what'sgood for it, because it will
expose the ones that aren'tdoing a good job and even the
freedom of parents to pull theirkids from a public school one
public school that isn't doingwell to a one that is, or one
that isn't safe to one that ismore safe.
Those are, those are goodthings too.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Those are good reforms where the parent has the
choice to move their kid aroundand do whatever, and that's it
it needs to be.
The parent has the choice.
It needs to be at the locallevel because, honestly, the
Republicans they've got theirproblems.
Democrats have their problems.
I mean, there's a thief on theleft and there's a thief on the
right.
No, that's true, I mean so itneeds to be back to the parents.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
All right, so how much time we got.
We've been going for a littlewhile.
Do you think we got time forthis?
I don't know if we've got timefor this.
We've got so much folks becausewe didn't.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
And you just went off on education.
I did and I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Honestly, there's so much more.
Okay, I will say for the folksthat are in there that are
trying yeah, and I honestlydon't debate education much.
I'm a homeschool father, I washomeschooled myself and here's
why and I get a lot of flackYou'll hear little snide
comments and socialization stuff.

(37:06):
You will.
You'll get people who, likethey find out you're either you
homeschool your kids or whatever.
And there's just this there's alot of prejudice and bias
against it.
I don't answer that very often.
Um, I don't care, I know my kidsare well adjusted, I know my
kids are, are well-educated.
I don't care that there's thatkind of persecution.

(37:26):
But I look at them, notnecessarily the parents, but I
look at the system and I feelsorry for them because they're
defending something that isactually indefendable,
indefensible.
There we go the statistics, thefacts, the reality is in our
corner.
It's failed, it's a completelyfailed system.

(37:48):
And until there is a waking upand so I don't debate it a lot
because it's it is too easy andI don't, I don't, I don't.
I'm not trying to beat up onanybody.
I know there are people who aretrying, but it it needs to, it
needs to change, it needs tochange quickly.
So we had uh, I'm on x, as, aswe've talked about on twitter, x

(38:08):
, whatever, and um, so is our,so is our illustrious mayor.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
And I am.
So we we got a new mayor.
He's very young mayor, um mayorBrandon Sackbun.
He is a Democrat and he beat umsomeone who'd been a Republican
, who'd been there for a whileand, um, you know, Duke had done
a fine job.
But I think if you're in officefor too long, I think Run at

(38:40):
ideas.
Yeah, you're susceptible, andBrandon was young, he's
energetic, he's good looking,he's full of ideas.
Not for me, but I mean it'strue it matters.
I think it matters to voters,maybe it doesn.
But I mean, it's true itmatters, I think it matters to
voters, maybe it doesn't.
I mean I don't know.
Anyway, never going to, let melet that down.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
That was a good one.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Okay, anyway, so he won.
It wasn't close.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
No, it wasn't close at all.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
And I had good hopes because Brandon reached out to
some Republicans, was going totry to be bipartisan.
He made some decent moves priorto being sworn in and then it
just kind of fell apart and hehas tweeted out some really
stupid things and a lot ofradical things over time, um,
over time, and I'm just I don'tknow if he's just drunk the

(39:38):
Democrat party Kool-Aid so badthat he doesn't fact checks
himself very often, but I meanhe's, he's called out, uh,
republican candidates forcalling for killing their
political opponents, which noRepublican has ever done and and
wasn't.
But I mean he just read theheadline and ran with it like in
this big soapbox about it andit's just some other stuff like
that.
It's just absolutely ridiculous.
Well, this last one he justtweeted out and I'm okay, I'll

(40:01):
just read it, this, this, thisin capital letters, I'm not sure
what studies or articles areleft to write.
Education and childcare are thetwo are two of the many drivers
for economic development.
Restructure the REDI program,which you know what?
The REDI program is?

Speaker 1 (40:17):
I don't See.
That's why I don't know whatthe REDI program is.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
I believe that is government funds.
It is government funds, but theREDI grants that we always get
for economic development.
That, yeah, that pay for petprojects everywhere.
It's going to change our world.
No, no tax dollars.
So this is what he's talkingabout.
So the Ready Grants restructurethe Ready Program to focus on

(40:40):
education, not like they don'tget enough money as it is,
they're already getting taxpayerdollars, so they want more
taxpayer dollars for education,housing, so subsidized housing
and childcare.
And then, after two fiscalyears of just priorities, now

(41:01):
for Democrats they eat thisstuff up.
That kind of a statement, oh mygosh.
Jennifer McCormick running forgovernor.
She's going to love that.
That is fantastic.
It's nonsense, and I'll tellyou why she's going to love that
.
That is fantastic.
It's nonsense, and I'll tellyou why.
What is actually an economicdriver?
Is it housing?

(41:22):
You're opening your businessbecause you got a house.
An economic driver, what is thedriver for economic growth?
It is number one freedom, yeah,and by freedom, that means less
regulation.

(41:42):
That means the government nottelling you what to do.
Um, less taxes.
So the government taking lessof your profit from whatever you
sell, whatever service or good,and the incentive to keep more
of what you earn through hardwork, selling services you offer
whatever.
That is the number one and it'snot even close.

(42:04):
That's the economic driverEducation, and this bugs me so
bad.
I guess we're talking educationtonight.
Education is a outgrowth ofeconomic development.
It is not the driver.
When people do well with theirbusinesses, they send their kids
to colleges, not the other wayaround.
You do not come out of collegewith all your degrees and all

(42:27):
your ideas and all your wisdomand sit down and make a million
dollar business out of nothing.
It doesn't happen because youdidn't learn any of that in
college.
You won't learn any of that incollege.
You learn that through the hardknocks.
You learn that through life andyou learn that through a
gifting or a skill that youalready had prior to going to
college.
Yeah, this is what isfundamentally backwards.

(42:48):
And then the ready program.
I can't stand.
This stuff is taxpayer dollars.
So the ready, when you werelooking at a ready grants, a
ready program, read money from ahardworking entrepreneur.
They take that money from ahardworking entrepreneur and
then they put that money intosome kind of a pet project,

(43:09):
whether it be a hotel for amillionaire, whether it be a
convention center, whether it bea parking garage, whatever it
is, and it's things like thatand that's going to spur
economic growth.
Meanwhile, the small businessthat's actually pulling our
economy is the one that's beingweighed down by a heavier tax
burden.
If they really believed ineconomic growth, they would stop

(43:31):
all the ready grants, all theready programs.
They'd stop all the grants andthe tax abatements and all this
stuff and they would cut thetaxes of the hardworking small
business, and then you wouldhave more people able to afford
an education, sending their kidsto school, more families get

(43:52):
this families able to afford tohave the wife stay home so you
don't have to worry as muchabout child care.
I know people hate that, butit's true.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Instead, they're looking for more uh, business
owners, uh, people with money topay a higher tax rate to begin
to, you know, subsidizesomeone's child care and all
this kind of stuff so so I, Iread, I read through this a
little bit, and I read a littlebit of the article as much as I
could, because I don't subscribeto the state affairs and you
tell me that's kind of leftyanyway well, no, it's it's.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Who's it referring to ?

Speaker 1 (44:23):
it's referring to a, a study done by the indiana
chamber of commerce so it doessay in here that the state child
care shortage is costingbusinesses about $3 billion a
year, and so that's the partthat I read.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah, so what does that mean?
Tell me about that.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
What does that mean?
That's in sick days, that'slost time.
But this is where I see this.
Okay, so it might be a littlebit different.
I see this as remnants of whathappened through the pandemic,
because people no longer thatshakeup that happened, that the

(45:02):
enemy meant for bad, is actuallycoming back now and it's
actually costing these companies, because people realize you
know what.
My job's still going to be there.
I don't have to dedicate everysecond of my 40 hours or
whatever I'm doing.
I don't have to dedicate allthat, right, because so my kid

(45:22):
gets sick, I'll call in sickbecause they can't replace me.
Right?
And honestly, I really thinkthat if the as far from the
business aspect of it I'm notlooking at the I don't know
where education comes into this.
Far from the business aspect ofit, I'm not looking at the I
don't know where education comesinto this.
But but from the, but from thechild care part, yeah, I think
if, yeah, a government's notgoing to fix this right, we're

(45:43):
not going to stick our kids in agovernment-funded child care
thing.
We're not going to do that.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
but I'm telling you, if businesses get on board with
this and they look and see three, three billion dollars a year
and they say, okay, part of ourpart of our benefit package
right is going to be at all forchild care well, here's the
thing, jimmy I work I work in aprivate business is free to do
that absolutely, and so thatthis should drive them to do

(46:07):
that?

Speaker 1 (46:07):
that's not what they're asking no, that's,
that's not what he's saying.
But I, I'm just saying that'swhat this data should show is
like the American worker now isreally not quite as invested as
they were before.
And I'm not saying I'm sayingthat's actually probably a good
thing, right?
I think people dedicated waytoo much of their lives
sometimes to their job.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
It's not that good of a thing, but I do think to your
point.
It is a shift that happened inthe workforce during COVID and I
mean we all know Shift inpriorities.
Yeah, I think for some peopleit's not good and I'm not going
to talk about let's leavechildcare out of it for a moment
.
Just talk about the absolute,pathetic work ethic that is in

(46:51):
the workforce today.
I mean it is you see it in inyour fast food restaurants.
You see it in um.
I mean I've talked tomanufacturers and they talk
about people who cut kids, whocome in and they're and it's a
factory job and they don't wantto work.
They don't want to work and Imean there is um.
You know, one of the one of thethings that was really cool

(47:12):
about the Booker T Washingtonbook and then the subsequent
book that I read, the follow-upone, where it was with him and
Teddy Roosevelt was.
Booker T believed in the beautyof and I believe God does too
the beauty of work.
That work in itself is a goodthing and for men it's a good
thing.

(47:32):
It's not good for men not towork.
I mean this is something theBible says you don't work, you
don't eat, but it's not justbecause we're going to punish
you.
It is what we were created for.
If you think about in thegarden we were created what to
tend the garden.
God gave us a job to do.
Work is a natural outgrowth andthere's the, and after the

(47:54):
civil war, with booker t therewas, there was a for the slaves.
There was a lot of backlash of,hey, I worked, you know, and you
were, they were abused in itand it was a horrible thing and
he was trying to break, bringback the beauty of work, which I
thought was, I think is areally cool thing that he did
and it's just wonderful.
But we've lost that completelyin this society and folks do not

(48:15):
put, put the effort in, I think, to your point.
That's right.
I mean you get it on both ways.
You get the employer who'sabusing their employees, but you
also get these folks that arejust like, yeah, I mean I, my
kid has a sniffle, I'm, I'm gone, I'm done I would venture to
say where I work, it's probably90% female.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Yeah.
Okay, and so a lot of femaleswork in healthcare.
And that's great, becausethat's their national talent is
to take care of people.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
And so so you're going to run into this a lot
more, a lot, a lot, a lot.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
They have a couple of kids.
A kid gets sick.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Yep, they need to take the day off.
That's.
This is where this money'scoming from.
I understand why you would feelthat way, because I mean,
that's the that's the bestsituation for that child is for
that mother to go, oh yeah,don't send them Absolutely,
don't tile and all them up andsend them to school, but be able
to stay home.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
And so I think, as, as like business owners and
leaders, you have to, like,think, well, you got to
accommodate your workforce andyou have to and you have to be
able to bend, and then,absolutely, you know, and I, I
think I don't want taxpayerdollars going.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
No, they're not going to fix it.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Yeah they're not.
They got to put it back in thebusinesses and like if, if you
have a business and you say apart of our package is that we
are going to offer, if you cando child care, if you can do
these work from home days, ifyour kid's sick, right, or these
other things, if you're gonnaget there's a lot of pushback,
you're gonna get talent male andfemale talent, I mean, but

(49:39):
you're gonna have a there's a,that's a huge battle going on
with that because you had thewhole work from home thing
during covid.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Yeah and then even when we came back from covid,
yeah, then there was, there wasa lot of allowance of, ok, well,
one day a week, right, I meanthings that they'd never allowed
it.
They allowed that and it'sstill there's just, there is
just, it's a, it's, it's a, it'sa, it's a push, push and pull
kind of thing going on betweenemployers and employees.

(50:06):
Whether that's allowed with it,I mean and I think to your
point, the employees of thisworkforce, it doesn't matter to
them.
They're going to demand it,they're going to demand it.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
They're going to demand it, yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Yeah, I always look at so the Indiana Chamber.
I always look at theirpolitical, I look at kind of
what their motivation is andpretty much anything they put
out it's got a purpose and it isnot so that employers will be
better to their employees, it'sto get some more money from
taxpayers.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Maybe being ignorant like myself is bliss to read
this and think this should beempowering to the businesses to
make changes.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Well, and just to finish out, because we've gone
long and we're going to closeout the Drew, you all right,
talking to my producer, yes,producer, we're okay.
Yeah, so we've gone long, wegonna close this out, but I will
.
I will say one morecontroversial thing to end this
out with this we still gotta askabout something else too after

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the country okay, okay, let medo.
Let me say this, if you, becauseI've I've pretty much made
everybody mad.
I just want to finish this out.
There is another lie that theDemocrat Party pushes about
employment, and it is that womenget paid less than men.
Do you know that?
Statistically, truthfully,factually, that is not accurate.

(51:27):
And this story of the childcareis why?
Because women work less hoursthan men, and that is never
factored in.
So what you do is you'll take a, say you take a woman, say you
take a woman nurse and a malenurse.
They're both paid the same, butthe woman makes less.

(51:48):
Why does the woman make less?
Because she's got to take timeoff, she's got her other things
that she's doing.
Statistically, if you will andthis is kind of funny because
somebody said you know what?
Alright, let's talk about this,let's talk about the.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Democrat mantra.
So you're saying that when theygive those numbers, it's not
apples?

Speaker 2 (52:06):
to apples?
Oh no, no, they're notcomparing apples to apples.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Well, and then are they not prorating it for the
amount of hours that are worth?
So?

Speaker 2 (52:14):
first of all, it's illegal or certainly highly
immoral.
I know my facility does not dothat in any way, shape or form.
I can't imagine anybody gettingaway with that Exactly, but say
that you do, because they saythat it's the truth.
Oh, we're working on equal payfor equal work, blah, blah, blah
, blah.
Well, it's a non-existent issue.

(52:34):
It really is.
But if, if you think about it,so the accusation is that
there's rich white men sittingup there, greedy, and they're
paying these women less than menbecause they just hate women.
Okay, that's the, that's thepicture you're given, that's the
accusation.
Well, if that were true, jimmy,okay, if that were true, then
wouldn't they only hire women,because then you could get away

(52:57):
with not paying them as much,right?
Why would you pay?
Why would you hire a man if youcould get away with with paying
a woman less for the same work?
Well, because, see, that isn'thappening.
Yeah it is all kind of a so thatisn't happening, and that's
that is another reason why,because because that's
ridiculous Nobody's doing that.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Do you think it happened in what like the 60s
70s, or do you think it happenedback then it?

Speaker 2 (53:21):
never happened.
I'm going to tell you.
This is the brutal, honesttruth.
If you have a businessman who'scoming in and he wants you
there 40 hours a week, 60 hoursa week, I don't know whatever it
is, and you got a man and yougot a woman and you got a woman
that has young children at home,I'm just telling you from the,
they don't.
I'm not saying they do it today,but but the incentive would be

(53:43):
not to hire the woman.
You would never pay the woman,less Never.
You would never do that.
But you would say I'm payingyou only for the time you're
here, right, why would you wantto pay her, knowing that the man
is not going to be clocking outat the 40 hours?
The woman may have issues thatarise in the home.
She's got to take care of a kid, a sick kid or whatever it is

(54:07):
which she's got her prioritiesright.
But so what?
What they're actually wantingis paid time off for women more
than men.
That's what they're actuallypushing for Subsidized pay, so
that the woman makes the sameamount as the man, regardless of
whether the woman's there ornot, because, hey, she's there,
she's got to take care of thefamily.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
But don't most places have built-in paid time off
that everybody gets the sameamount?

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Yeah, but a man doesn't have a baby, he doesn't
get six months off yeah, theytake it now, they do, now they
actually do pushing for that?
Absolutely they're.
They're pushing for that.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
They're pushing for more and more basically take
maternity leave or no paternity.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Yeah yeah, they're pushing more and more where it's
going to be.
It's going to be.
It's socialism, where thegovernment is basically paying
you to go to work.
They're subsidizing all of it,or they're forcing the business
to do that.
So then the cost of goods goesup because they're having to pay
for this.
Somehow they're paying a workerto not be there.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Yeah, the people that I know that work in the same
facility.
They I mean, if you like mostfacilities, if you have to leave
because your kid's sick, it'sconsidered an occurrence against
you.
So yeah, so I mean you wouldswitch off.
I took an occurrence because Ihad to stay home with Johnny.
Then my wife would take thenext occurrence, and so I think

(55:27):
it's.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
But the accusation is that you have two people
working the same job, same exactjob, a man and a woman, and the
woman, because she's a woman,just because she's a woman, is
getting paid less than the man.
And that is not trueStatistically it is not true,
it's not accurate at all.
What they do is they go okay,what is she overall making?
What are women overall makingin these positions?

(55:50):
Women overall are making less.
Well, that's because they aren'tworking as many hours, and that
is the the underlying so you'reright, it's apples to apples.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Anyway, I thought I'd throw that out there man, yeah,
I know okay we're, we're aboutto end.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Oh well, we're gonna ask about the uh what, uh where
we're lincoln dinner, people aregonna be so yeah, so if you're
still watching and listening,and Andrew hasn't ticked you off
yet, If I haven't made youextremely angry, you know it
wouldn't hurt for the people toget mad just to send in a
comment or a question and justsay you know what you jerk?

(56:25):
What are you talking about here?
Do you hate women?
You know that kind of aquestion.
No, seriously, we have anopportunity.
We've been asked to considerlive streaming from the Lincoln
Day.
I think it's October 21st.
Is that the date I told you?
I believe that was what it is,and we're just I don't know.

(56:48):
I'm just kind of torn by itbecause I'm not sure how many
folks want to see that.
I just kind of torn by itbecause I'm not sure how many
folks want to see that, and Ithink we'd have to broadcast.
During the time people would beeating, which is really a
bummer, because I'd like to eat.
But yeah, Anyway, we wouldinterview.

(57:09):
We could interview whoever'sinterested.
That's at the Lincoln Day, sowe might.
The guests are Micah Beckwith,the future governor, Mike Braun,
and there'll be a lot of otherpolitical figures and stuff.
Mark Messmer yeah, greg, good Idon't know if this is something
that you would be interested in.
So just send us a note, say,hey, that's something we'd love

(57:29):
to see.
Or eh, maybe not, not, maybeI'll pass watching you then, um,
I don't know.
I'm kind of torn to be totallyhonest with you because, I'm
just not sure how the formatwould work to be that
interesting.
It'd be pretty loud in there,which we've done that at the
fair.
I thought the fair went reallywell and I like the idea of
being at a fairground and allthat activity going on, music

(57:53):
going on, we had a lot oftechnical difficulties and all
that kind of stuff, but it stillworked.
It still was good.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
I don't know that it's the same thing for a
Lincoln Day.
Yeah, I mean, do you reallywant political candidates to
come on and give their politicalanswers to things I mean.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
I love politics and I don't want to hear that.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
I know I can just feel it.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
I can feel like the vomit in the back of my throat.
No, these people.
I understand.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
You give them the mic and they don't let go of it.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
No these people are nice people.
They're all good people, youknow some of them.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
anyway, they've all got an election to win.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
They all do and and, and I don't feel like our
viewers are going to help them.
Honestly, that much really doyou think?
Probably not.
I mean, a lot of folks arealready probably conservative
republican that are listening tous and I know this has gone on
long, but I don't care.
Um, so but, but if you thinkthat's something you want to,
would want to do, let me knowthe other thing we could do,

(58:51):
jimmy, we could do where we, weset up our equipment and we did
a few interviews, notnecessarily campaign stumps or
whatever like that, but butinterviews with, I mean, we're
going to have, you know, statesenators there.
We're going to have, uh, futurecongressmen there, maybe you
know, and just anything that'sinteresting, and then piece it
together afterwards, yeah, andkind of add it into a podcast or

(59:14):
just put it out there.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
You know what would be kind of cool.
Yeah, I just thought about this.
What if we had a list of likesix questions and they're kind
of like off the?

Speaker 2 (59:20):
wall and you did it for everybody.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Like what's your favorite ice cream type?
Okay.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Like little pilly stuff like that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
But just get to know people more.
Maybe not, no, I don't know, Idon't know that's probably a
good idea.
Yeah, I mean most influentialperson in your life.
That's kind of a good one.
It's interesting to hear about.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Keep it less than 30 seconds, and if any of them
don't say Jesus, then we justdon't vote for them.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Yeah, we'll actually just cut them.
Yeah, yes, but anyway, I mean,just that might be something
interesting just to get.
Maybe.
I don't know, these politicalfigures sometimes just seem like
a you know, yeah, anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Well, anyway, folks, I think we're going to try and
wrap up, so please send us anemail or a comment or, you know,
find some way to.
Actually, we do have a way toget a hold of us, so you want to
.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Yeah, themcsquaredpodcast at gmailcom,
the T-H-E, not E-Ethemcsquaredpodcast at gmailcom
is the best way you also can hitus on On YouTube is actually a
good area to do If you want toput a comment it goes to both of

(01:00:34):
us also.
So that's yeah, youtubecomments are good.
Uh, is there any way to directmessage?
Um, we don't have an instagramaccount.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Yeah, so we are on instagram you can direct message
instagram also.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, uh, you could also, youknow, contact me on x or at
facebook or uh, the email I'llsend out after this with the
connections and all that sort ofstuff.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Yeah, that'll be good .
Well, I had a good time.
This is a good one.
I think we got a lot of stuffdone.
Yeah, I probably made somepeople mad.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
I don't really care yeah you probably made me mad.
Did I make you mad?

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
No, it's okay, I just yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Well, folks, we really appreciate you watching
and listening to us.
We hope at least you've beenentertained, maybe informed,
maybe provoked a little bit, andit's not a bad thing.
Sometimes you get settled intocomplacency.
There you go, jimmy.
It's been a real blast havingthis conversation.
Yeah, it has been, and we don'twant to move.
We don't want to close withoutalso saying that we are keeping

(01:01:33):
the folks of Florida who areundergoing a hurricane as we
speak, and our thoughts andprayers.
We're praying that the damageis limited and folks, people's
lives are spared.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
It's really a serious concern.
We're meant to open the show init, actually, but we did pray
about that before we went live.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Yeah, that's for sure well, you want to close us out?
Yeah, thanks for being with us.
Uh, make sure you likesubscribe.