June 18, 2024 • 50 mins
In this episode Jimmy and Andrew discuss Trump's Tax Proposal, the upcoming Republican convention and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi everybody, welcome to the MC Squared podcast.
My name is Andrew McNeil and Iam joined, as always, with my
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It is, I'm glistening already.
Yeah well, I'm alwaysglistening.
It's actually indoors too.
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It's all good, I just gave up, yeah.
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Speaker 1 (02:54):
All right.
So what do we want to tacklefirst?
We want to jump right into theTrump conviction.
We've got a Trump tax proposalthat came out today.
I thought was pretty exciting.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Let's talk about that .
Okay, yeah, I don't.
The conviction.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, yeah, so it came out today, but it was
actually, I guess, discussedpossibly yesterday evening in a
Republican conference, the bigconference they were having.
Trump was a part of it,obviously, and he proposed
eliminating income taxes,federal income taxes in the
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United States, and he wouldsupplement or use tariffs as a
substitute.
And what's interesting to meabout this, being a student of
history, is that this isactually the way the country was
founded.
That is exactly how we were setup tax-wise.
The only way the federalgovernment could raise taxes was
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tariffs and the president hadthat ability to do it.
It goes back to I think therewas Jefferson imposed tariffs
and there were some otherpresidents that did it.
It's an interesting thingbecause the concept and this is
this is something Rush used totalk about always with
unintended consequences fromgovernment policy, whatever they
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decide to do.
I mean this is just as a rulewhatever they're trying, whoever
they're trying to help andwhoever they're trying to punish
doesn't matter.
It usually works the oppositeand it usually doesn't work ever
like they think it's going to.
So tariffs, theoretically, aresupposed to take the money from
foreign companies who are tryingto import, trying to sell to
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Americans, so, like Trump did atariff on Chinese imports, there
was a tariff for a while onsteel imports, and all of that
is intended to help Americanindustry.
So if America is producingsteel, then you put a tariff on
foreign steel, so you're hopingthat your steel companies will
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prosper in America.
Well, that is the.
That is the theory, and whatactually happens every single
time is it's actually and again,I'm 100% for this proposal but
it is a tax on the Americanpeople.
And why do you think that isBecause we buy things.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yes, I mean, that's the whole reason.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So who is hurt if your imported item is more
expensive?
It isn't.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
The buyer yes, it's us.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
And it's always a tax on us.
But we have a choice.
It's a sale, it's basically asales tax, it works out to be a
sales tax and it it's a choice.
We have a choice.
We know that this item is goingto cost more, um, because of
the tax, we, we don't have tobuy it.
We can buy it.
We don't have to buy it with anincome tax.
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You are working your, your rearend off.
You are earning a?
A, a salary or wage, uh, tips,whatever it is, you've worked
for it, the government hasn'tworked for it, it hasn't done
anything for it, and it's taking37, 40% of your paycheck and uh
, and you have no choice.
In fact, if you decide, uh,decide that you are not going to
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send them the money, they willcome and take everything you own
and garnish your wages forfuture repayment.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
So I like it.
Okay, so explain this to me.
I guess this might be a littlebit more deep.
So the tariff would be on anyimports.
So then companies would bepaying a lot of tariff because
if they had some type ofmaterial that was off, exactly,
they would have to pay more,exactly.
So even if it was a us company,then every everything across
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the board.
Let's say our bag of cheetos,right, okay, it's going to go up
for everybody, yes, now, buteverybody is going to not have
the income tax, so they're goingto have more money in their
pocket, correct.
But everything else is going togo up.
Everything in cost, yes, exceptif you produce it yourself,
like if you are, yeah, so,theoretically, your steel
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producers.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
when they have a tariff on foreign steel,
theoretically your steelproducers will make more money.
But you know what happens,because this is all
market-driven supply and demand.
Yeah, it is so.
If you are a steel producer andyour competitor is forced to
raise their prices, what are yougoing to do?
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You're going to do better.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
You're going to raise your prices.
You're right, because you'regoing to raise your prices right
under them, absolutely Barelyin their economy.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
So it always comes back to, the American people
will pay more Tariffs, notnecessarily a great long-term
solution.
Getting rid of the income taxis absolutely phenomenal and it
is a conservative idea that theRepublican Party long abandoned,
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but Ronald Reagan would havebeen for this.
This is conservatism 101.
The income tax.
Do you know the history of theincome tax?
I don't, oh gosh.
So back in the turn of the 20thcentury, so 19,.
I feel like this was like1917-ish, I think.
That's when the income tax andwe had to pass an amendment to
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allow it and again, I didn't domy homework, so I don't know the
exact amendment, but this wasat the same time that they
removed the election of senatorsby your state legislator and
they turned it to be a populistvote.
So that sounds like a greatidea, but it was actually a way
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of reducing the authority andpower of the state, which is
what the Constitution, what ourrepublic, is built on, anyway.
So they instituted an incometax and the argument?
It was big, big controversy atthe time, but the argument was
for heaven's sakes, people, thegovernment will never take more
than like a 9%.
I mean, 9% is probablyridiculous, but it would never
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go as high as what God requires,which is 10%, so we will always
, as the government, be below.
I mean, that was literally,that was the, that was the thing
, and, of course, the governmentgovernment be below.
I mean, that was literally thething and of course the
government was lying, like theyalways are, and we have seen
absolute confiscation ofAmerican wages and the American
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wage.
The power of the Americandollar in the pocket of the
working man has just depletedever since that time.
So I am 100% for getting rid ofthe income tax.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So tell me, tell me how this affects, just if we
look down downstream, joe Smithand you know he works makes
$35,000 a year.
Yeah, okay, and he's got afamily and let's say his wife
stays at home, so $35,000,that's very, I mean, that's
rough, okay, but let's comparethat to Bobby, who's making
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$350,000 a year.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
So this is where when the rubber meets the road.
This is where the class warfarethat has already been
propagated in America theMarxists have taken over our
economic thought process herewould go wild.
And this is the real battle.
What you hit on is exactly thereal battle, because the truth
is a guy making $35,000 a yearwith four kids at home isn't
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paying any federal taxes.
Okay, so he sees no change tohis income.
The guy making $200,000, he'sgot two kids is going to see his
income probably 40% increase inhis income, in his take-home
income.
You are talking, you're goingto have to sell the American
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people on what it will do forour economy.
It will explode it.
We will see prosperity like youhave never seen if we got rid
of the income tax but how it'sgoing to be spun is what it's
going to.
Oh yeah yeah, it's going to helpthe rich person.
Yeah, absolutely, yeah it's.
I mean, it's absolutely notfair, right?
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Why should we be taking moremoney from somebody who's
producing?
I have have no idea, but that'sthe world we live in.
So I think the politicalreality might be tough, but it
is the fair, proper and besteconomic solution we could
possibly have is to get rid ofthe income tax and also get rid
of property taxes.
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I hate property taxes.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
It's confiscation of land that you own?
Don't you think this should besome type of incremental thing,
where they do one and see how itworks and then do another?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, we know there's already states with no income
taxes and they prosper Florida,Texas, there may be a couple
others.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
They have no income tax.
In Florida they have propertytax though.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Well, I think everybody has property tax.
Everybody loves that idea ofproperty tax.
They love the idea ofredistributing that wealth,
because that's what it is.
You have these farmers thathave accumulated 1,000 acres and
it's difficult because they ownso much land.
The government sees them asfilthy rich which they're not.
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Filthy rich which they're not.
Same thing with large houseshanding down an inheritance to
your kids or any of those things.
The government is looking tobasically take money where it
has no business taking money andit's all in an effort to kind
of level.
We call level the playing field, but it's actually just expand
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the misery for everybody.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
That's all it does.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, okay.
So anyway, I think it's a greatidea, I think it's a
conservative idea, I think itmakes sense and I think I think
it'd be well-received whether itactually happens.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I don't think it'll go.
Yeah, unfortunately, but anyway.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, okay, so let's talk about the Trump conviction.
What did you think?
Were you there?
When did you hear about it?
I wasn't there.
You weren't there.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I haven't watched it much, I'll be honest.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
When you found out about it.
When was that?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I don't know.
I've heard a little bit aboutit, but I've not been super
involved with it.
I don't, like I said, man, Idon't get super worked up about.
Well, that's good, I'll giveyou.
I heard a little bit about it,so I've got a little bit of a
take and I'm just going to throwit out.
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And I think it has a lot to dowith my area, too, of medicine,
as I think that there are somany strongholds in this country
that we believe as truths, andmany of them are being exposed,
and I'll start with medicine andwhat happened in 2020.
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So I think there's a ton ofexposure there, and I think that
there's a lot of smoke andmirrors that are there that have
been exposed, and I think thatour judicial system is also the
exact same way.
I think that there's thesethings that we think that we
hold to, that are going to betruthful, that are going to be
whatever, and we can trust.
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yeah, and they're broken and Iactually kind of and I hate to
say this, but I mean, I think weshould have our trust in one
thing, and it's just beingexposed and exposed more.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, well, I think you hit that nail on the head.
That's, that's a great take,because the reality is they
didn't.
They didn't deal any seriousdamage to Donald Trump.
No, they dealt maybe fataldamage to the trust of the
American people in theirjudicial system.
Yeah, yeah.
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And it became crystal clearthroughout the trial, if you
were paying attention to any ofthe details that came out, not
not only was it completelycompromised and completely
rigged and completely set up,the the charges themselves, that
all of it was just it was outof the pages of the communists
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in Soviet Russia when they wouldhave these show trials, it was
literally out of those books.
I mean it was.
And so when the verdict wasreached immediately, which was
ridiculous and convicted on allcounts, and just you know, 34
counts, whatever I think there,initially at the time I was way
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more angry than I thought Iwould be.
I was actually very angry andvery concerned for my country
and very concerned for mycountry.
I felt deeply disturbed aboutwhere we were heading as a
country, more than I was before.
But since then, because it'sbeen a little while I mean
obviously folks are watchingthis it's going to have been
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maybe a month since it happened.
In retrospect, I have to say Ihave seen what appears to be a
tidal wave of opinion shift, notjust towards Trump but against
the erosion of what was America.
Yeah, we used to be able tocount on, even if you had, every
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once in a while a corrupt judgeor a judge that got it wrong or
a jury that got it wrong youcould depend on.
Well, they're going to get itright, because there's enough
good, law-abiding, god-fearingpeople in the judicial system
who will make a decision notbased on politics or whether
they like the man, but on legalprecedent and what's good for
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the defendant and what's goodfor the country and what's right
, what's lawful, and I don'tthink we believe that that is
going to be the case anymore.
I mean again, I hate to beat adead horse, but the proof of a
stolen election in 2020 is stillcoming out.
It was overwhelming and not asingle judge would touch it with
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a 10-foot pole.
I mean, that was our recoursethat the judicial system would
review, it, would take a look at.
No, it wasn't going to happen.
So Trump raised, I think, $100million in 48 hours.
He had a massive amount of newdonors that poured in.
I have heard so many movie stars, people that we, you know
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models, I mean just you know allkinds of secular people, the
folks that have had nothing todo with politics, saying we've
had it.
We are going to support DonaldTrump and I didn't support him
before, I don't even like him,but this cannot stand.
You had the Dr Phil interviewjust shortly afterwards and that
was phenomenal.
I watched parts of it, someexcerpts of it, but it was when
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Dr Phil talked about that theywere banned off of TikTok
because they tried to do a promofor the show and they wouldn't
allow it because Donald Trumpwas in it, that there was a gasp
in the audience and then peoplebegan to have, I think, almost
the blinders coming off theireyes to realize we are not being
allowed to know what ishappening here, and that cannot
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be.
It has nothing to do withwhether Donald Trump and here's
the dumb thing, jimmy look atthe politics of Donald Trump and
they are actually not veryradical.
No, yeah, they aren't.
I mean he's like obey the lawswe already have immigration laws
on the book, books, shut theborder, like what our law says
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to do.
I mean he isn't rewriting newlaws, it's just literally
upholding them.
Make America great again.
Well, that's a horrible, that'sa radical I mean idea.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Whoever wants their nation to be great Inflammatory
statement oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
So his actual politics are not radical, but
he's not purchased or a part ofthe establishment, and that's
what terrifies them.
So I think we should talk aboutI mean, I think we should what
do you think is going to happen?
Because there's a lot of folksthat are right now saying
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Biden's at a 37% approval rating.
The momentum is all DonaldTrump.
It is all Donald Trump.
It does not matter what thesecular media has done.
He is picking up steameverywhere he goes.
He's going to win in alandslide.
Do you think he's going to winin a landslide?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Well, I think he won a landslide in the previous
election.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
personally, Okay, so that got stolen.
So what changed?
What has changed since then?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Well, unfortunately, nothing has changed and I
believe that our election systemwas also one of those
strongholds that we held to that.
No, this will be figured out inthe election system and that
was kind of one in the electionsystem.
Yeah, and that was kind of oneof the first things to break.
Well, I mean, the medicalsystem broke, the election
system broke.
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Yeah, I mean in the last fouryears.
Think about all the distrustnow that's slowly seeping out of
these strongholds that we haveseen as, like you know, these
are truths in our country.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
These are institutions in our country.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
These are institutions in our country.
I heard an interesting and Idon't.
I mean he went on a landslide,yeah, he should, yes, so.
But I heard an interestingthing every time the enemy comes
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at harder, they get penalizedor they get pushed down even
more.
The stronger the attacks get,the greater the enemy is losing.
And so I heard this from JohnnyEnloe and he actually related
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it back to Pharaoh.
I mean, you've probably heardthis, I'm sure you've probably
heard this analogy before.
But it's.
I mean, let my when Moses letthe people go, and every time he
said, oh yeah, I'm going to dothis, and didn't?
It got worse?
And it got go.
Yeah.
And every time he said, oh yeah, I'm going to do this, and
didn't.
Yeah, it got worse.
Yeah, and it got worse.
Yes, and it got worse and itgot worse.
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And now that looks reallyfamiliar to what's going on now.
I mean, everything seems likethe next attack and it gets
worse.
But when do they get to go?
And will we be a part of that?
Right, that's what I want to bea part of Well, think about it
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for a minute.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
So you've got in Egypt and you've got the
children of Israel, so you'vegot the people who are captive,
and you have the government orthe leadership that are the
oppressors, and God's dealingwith the oppressors in that
story.
I think it's very similar here.
I honestly believe in this.
This may be news for somebodyhere, and I think this is a
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really important and good point.
It is not, and it hasn't beenfor a while, about Democrat
versus Republican.
It is about elitists and it isabout the people.
Those are the.
Those are actually the battlelines and that's why you see a
lot of Republican leaders thatare angry and they don't like
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that.
Donald Trump's popular.
That's right.
They don't like it.
When we go off the reservationand I mean they are totally if
this comes, if he wins in alandslide, he wins the house and
he wins the senate and heproposes that the, that the
income tax, it will berepublicans that sabotage it.
Yeah, it won't be democrats.
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Democrats are a veryunfortunately.
I mean don't like it.
I don't agree with that.
They stand, but they'reextremely principled.
They're marxists and if itisn't marxism, they're not
voting for it.
I mean, you know what they'regoing to do.
Republicans act like and talklike they're conservative, but
they are not.
Generally, the ones in power are, for them, staying in power,
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and anytime that looks like themasses are waking up and
starting to figure outsomething's not right.
We've been electing these samepeople over and over again and
nothing is getting done.
Nothing that, oh, they're mad.
They're mad about this andthey're mad about that, and they
don't do anything about it.
We're just being fooled, and Ido believe the positive side of
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this is that God has used DonaldTrump to wake us up, and what I
saw happen after that verdictof 34 counts was an awakening of
people that have said I don'tlike politics, I'm sick of all
of them.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I saw something switch wherethere was almost the attitude of
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yeah, but this is our countryand no politician is going to
destroy it, no judge is going todestroy it.
No entertainment industry isgoing to destroy it.
No, no false election is goingto destroy it.
We have got to stand up and Ido believe this that we have one
chance, jimmy, to get thisright.
It is this time Now.
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I don't know whether DonaldTrump will win, and the reason I
say that is because they hatehim so bad and they don't want
him to win so badly.
They're trying to throw him injail, in prison.
They're going to do everythingthey can.
They will absolutely try tokill him.
They absolutely will.
His life is protected by theLord and if anything happens to
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him, it will be because the Lordallowed it.
Whatever is happening withDonald Trump, he is a tool and
people need to understand this.
He is a tool in the hand of Godand that makes you know who
that makes mad.
Generally Christians.
Yeah, I know the secular people, the people that are rising up.
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Maybe they don't even go tochurch.
They see that and they go.
Yeah, absolutely, it looks thatway.
I can totally see that thechurch goes.
How dare you say that he's atool in the hand of God?
Well, he is and he's exposingand God is using him.
So is he going to be swept intothe White House?
He should be, and if he is not,I mean you will see great
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turbulence.
A lot of things will happen.
If he wins, you're going to seeprobably a civil war, because
the ones who riot, the folks whoburn cities down, that's the
left, and when the left doesn'tget their way, they go crazy and
they go revolutionary and theydon't care about law and you
have enough judges that'll lookthe other way.
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And so I think that we aresetting ourselves up for a
battle for the country, a battlefor the nation, and you and I
know this.
We have prayed for a long timethat God would have mercy on
America.
We have, and I remember growingup as a kid attending
Washington for Jesus I think itwas 88.
And being on the WashingtonMall as a kid and prayed all
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night.
It was a 24-hour prayer group.
It was a million Christiansgathered on the mall praying for
America, praying for revival.
President Ronald Reagan at thetime gave a videotaped message.
It was just an awesome thing.
I've been a part of praying forAmerica.
God have mercy on America.
He has sent us not just DonaldTrump, but we are in a
generational shift and changeright now and we are joining in
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battle and people don't need towake up.
We are having this right now.
What do you need to do?
You need to pray.
You need to get your life right.
We've talked about this before.
You need to get informed.
You don't need to get down inthe dumps or go down every
rabbit hole.
You don't need to know everyevil, wicked thing that's going
on out there.
Just understand.
It is wicked and evil and theyare trying to destroy us, but
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God is on the case, he isfighting, he is using Donald
Trump, and God has something yetto be said about what is
happening here, and that's whatI want to be a part of and
that's what I want to see.
And even if Donald Trump doesnot win, I'm telling you the
kingdom of God in America isgoing to advance.
It will.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
That's no doubt.
That's no doubt.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Anyway, that's my two cents so let me take you back.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
So you've said a couple good things through there
, so this is something I've saidfor a long time and I know it's
a little bit controversial, butI really think that if you're
going in and you're voting andyou're going and picking a
straight ticket, I think it'slazy, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, just as Andrew justsaid.
(27:41):
I mean, you have to pick theright man, the right woman for
the job and there are rights andwrongs on both sides and I
think that's really important.
I know that was very early onin what you were talking about,
but I feel like it's reallyimportant to say is that you
need to get educated and makethe decision and don't just pick
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a straight ticket, because Ireally think it.
I just I feel like it's a lazything to do.
But here's the thing I fullybelieve exactly what you said
and I think and I'm excited forthat, I'm excited for that day
when God really shows what hewants done here.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, well, I think he's doing it now to an extent,
and that's the thing.
Are we paying attention?
Because when Donald Trump camearound the first time, god was
moved.
I mean I am not deifying DonaldTrump, he is.
I mean I hope he's a Christian.
He may not even be a Christian,I know he says Christian things
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at times, but he also cussesand he's had a sordid past.
I mean I'm not lifting him upto the place of saying he's so
holy, god is using him.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying he is a vessel thatGod has specifically raised up
right now In the Bible.
This is the thing.
These Christians have all beenout of shape need to start
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reading their Bibles.
No-transcript.
God used him, raised him up andanointed him.
The Holy Spirit came upon himand he would tear the
Philistines physically.
I mean, all of the heroes ofthe Bible were all flawed people
(29:35):
.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
They're all flawed.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
And so we'll have that discussion at another time.
But God is moving.
Sometimes we really don't likewhat we see when he does move.
Sometimes we really don't likewhat we see when he does move,
because the Bible says there'sdarkness and wind and clouds and
things that precede themovement of the Lord.
I mean when God moves it's notalways, you know, roses and
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peaches and, and I mean it'strue, and so I mean the Lord.
In my opinion, my humble opinion, I believe the Lord moved
during the Civil War period.
I believe from the crying outof all of the slavery and the
slaves that cried out and alsothe Christians that cried out
Lord, deliver this country fromslavery.
God moved, he powerfully moved.
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We lost 500,000 men in that war.
It was a horrific rending ofthe country, but it was the move
of God.
We don't like that.
But I think we're coming intoanother period.
I'm not saying we're going tolose that many people or that
kind of a thing, but I am sayingit may not be a bunch of tent
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meetings and we're all singingkumbaya.
There may be some fire that wehave to go through to save the
country and to save the souls ofthis country, and that's the
thing.
We're a platform from thekingdom of God around the world
and we have ceased becoming thatand I don't think God's gonna
allow us to continue to speakout.
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I mean, we put the gay flag andthe pride flag on every embassy
in every country.
We are sending that out as ourgospel message.
Now is homosexuality and sexualperversion.
That is the message of America.
If you ask other nations now,god is not going to allow that
to continue.
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We've said a lot here in ashort period of time.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, you got really worked up.
Yeah, I know, but I like it.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Well, it's been a month, so there we go, All right
, so let's change real quick.
Let's talk a light subject herethe Terre Haute flag.
Have you seen it?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yes, I have.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Okay, what's your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
All right, so Did okay, what?
What's your like?
What's your thoughts?
All right, so did you know wehad a city flag?
I didn't I knew there, I knewthey were working on it I didn't
even know I had to do they'reworking on it?
Uh, we had a city flag before.
It was very generic.
It was white, said some thingson it, remember.
So this is tarahoe had a logofor a while, a level above, yeah
, but that's not the flag theydid a flag.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
It was like but I mean the logo, I they did a flag
.
It was like the seal orsomething.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I know, but anyway, honestly, I like the colors of
the flag.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, it's blue, and Gold, gold and it's got a Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I mean nobody's going to.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Here's the problem it's got a sycamore leaf on it.
Yeah, but here's the problemthere's not a stem on the leaf.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Which kind of I?
Here's the problem what is it?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
the first, I mean the first thing that came to my
mind when I saw it, and it iswhat I've seen in comments over
and over again it looks like acanadian flag, it looks like we
are under canada.
Now I get all the pieces.
It's the sycamore, uh leaf.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
It's the stars around it or where.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
That's how many states there were at the time,
in indiana, I mean, and the blueis the wabash River, which is a
really funny one, because theWabash River hasn't been blue in
100 years.
But I get it and I don't care.
I mean, does anybody care thatmuch?
Well, honestly, andrew, I think, there's, but they had
controversy over it.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Well, who did.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Well, so parts of Brandon Sackman's administration
got up to protest it beingaccepted.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah, but here's the whole thing.
This is what we have to realize.
Yeah, like Some people havenothing else to do.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, that's it I mean honestly you know, we Right
honestly we follow Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, yeah, okay, and we're pretty serious about that
, right, and that actually is apath that we're on, that we grow
in, and we grow in If we didn'thave that.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
No, I'm serious, we might get sidetracked on a flag.
Oh my gosh, I would.
I bet you would be fired upabout a flag.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
You'd be up there in the front.
If you didn't have it hey, weknow Canadians you would be mad
about it.
I would.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I'm telling you, praise the Lord, praise the Lord
, you've got the Lord.
It does look like a Canadianflag, though.
It does, and that's the thing.
Nobody outside of Darrow isgoing to understand that that's
a college logo, in my opinion,college logo, isu right.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Oh for the Sycamores, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
But why would you do that?
I mean, okay, you've got StMary of the Woods, you've got
rose holman, they're all in vigocounty.
Why are you putting sycamoresas the center of their first of
all and second of all, they'renot the center of our community.
I love isu, that's fine, yeah,but tarot's the center of this
community, not not a college.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
That I think they should, I think we really should
are we a college flag?
Speaker 1 (34:42):
is that the college flag?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
why don't we play off the college flag?
Why don't we play off the nameHigh Ground?
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Why don't we?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
play off of High Ground.
I don't understand, because aFrench person sees Terre Haute
oh, high Ground.
I mean we just call it TerreHaute.
You know, when you try to tellsomebody where you live, they
say you live in Terre Haute.
That's kind of funny.
Why don't we play off a highground and do it.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I know, I don't know.
I didn't even know we had acity flag.
Honestly, I was shocked.
It'll fly in front of thecourthouse, no one will care.
No one cares.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Well, the next revolutionary will change it.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
It does kind of look like Canada conquered Terre
Haute.
I'm sorry, Well French.
Yeah well, it's kind of funny.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Anyway, oh, yeah, I mean Anyway.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Okay, so let's see.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Oh hey, andrea and I are delegates and we are going
to the convention this Saturday.
I bet you're voting for yes.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
So when this airs and I will talk about that so when
this airs we will have alreadyvoted and everyone will already
know.
So Andrea and I are going tovote for Micah Beckwith.
He has been running for theLute and this really it's the
only race that is contested,it's the only issue you go there
for at this point and I amgrateful he's running, if for
(35:57):
nothing else, to give youpurpose for going.
Yeah, we had to pay $150 aperson to go and I didn't
realize that when I put my nameon the ballot $150 a person to
go and I didn't realize thatwhen I put my name on the ballot
.
So I might have reconsideredthat.
But maybe God's got a purposein it.
I hope he does so.
Micah Beckwith pastor inNoblesville area, I believe,
running.
He's a Christian activist.
(36:18):
I've heard him speak.
He's excellent.
He's like, honestly, kind of aReagan conservative.
He's just a very solidconservative, pro family, just a
great guy, very articulate.
So he's been running forlieutenant governor because the
way it's always worked in thepast is that the governor who
wins, the candidate who wins inthe primary to run for governor
(36:43):
for the state of Indiana, then,after they win the primary then
gets to quote pick their choicefor Lieutenant governor.
There's generally zerocontroversy, there's zero
competition and the conventionis basically just a rubber stamp
.
That that's the way it's alwaysbeen.
That's not the rules, and so hetook advantage of that and and
(37:03):
I think there was a lot ofchallenge to maybe they're going
to change the rules to keep himout, and eventually they
decided not to.
And the reality is, this is afight between establishment and
not necessarily an anti-Bronthing.
This is a fight between we'retired of always having these
(37:24):
candidates shoved down ourthroats and the establishment
wants control.
They want to tell us who tovote for and that's it.
And so we have a choice andthey're upset about it.
So fine, um, so he not.
He nominated um julie mcguire,and julie's got an interesting
history and story and so this iswho's going against Mike.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
This is who.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Mike Braun picked for Lieutenant Governor, and this
is who's been sending.
I got 30 postcards at my housethe other day, all at the same
time, of all these politiciansthat look like they're I mean,
I'm in the printing world, Iknow how this works, but it
looks like handwriting on theit's not, but whatever, it's all
these folks, folks, and they'reall endorsing her and she's
great and we should all get onboard.
Well, she may be a great person.
(38:08):
I don't know.
I don't know her well, but Iwill tell you this she doesn't
have a very long resume at all.
She's been a state rep for oneterm and she was the lady that
the establishment Republicanhouse here in Indiana poured
half a million dollars into hercampaign to beat a Democrat.
(38:28):
No to beat another Republicanbecause they didn't like how
radical he was on abortion.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Oh, I know this one.
Yeah, yes, so she's from-.
We've talked about him before.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
She's from the Greenwood area and again, I am
not on board with necessarilyhis tactics.
The former state rep and Ican't remember his name offhand,
but that was odious to me, thefact that they spent half a
million dollars to defeatsomebody in their own party.
That they thought was just alittle too radical.
I'm sorry, the IndianaRepublicans, the conservatives,
(39:04):
they kind of need radicalbecause they're not radical and
they're in power.
They have super majorities inboth chambers.
They really kind of need somepeople that are going to push
them to the right.
So I didn't like that at all.
I didn't like how that washandled.
So that's her, that's who he'spicked.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Kind of sounds like she's the establishment.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Well, it does, they put a bunch of money into her.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
It sounds like she's pretty indebted to them.
Well, yeah, half a milliondollars.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
So, yeah, yeah.
So it's Mike Braun, julieMcGuire.
We're supposed to all stand upand go yeah and vote for her,
which we are not.
I think she still wins becauseI think the establishment has
the numbers.
Wins because I think theestablishment has the numbers If
, if.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I if, if I go with my gut, I don't.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I don't think Micah wins.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I don't you mean at the convention, they held the
numbers.
I think so.
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
But I could be wrong, because I mean, we got Diego
Morales against theestablishment last time.
We got Daniel Elliott againstthe establishment.
Last time those two candidateswere, were, were the
establishment did not want them,fought them, didn't want them
at all, they squeaked by, butboth of them won.
Now in, in fairness, diego wonpretty handily, and that that
(40:18):
was a multiple factors.
Both of them now have come outand endorsed Julie.
So you're like okay, so you'rean anti-establishment, the, the,
the base supports you, and thenyou turn around and you endorse
the establishment candidate.
I just I feel like anybody thatgets in there.
It's just always they getturned up yeah.
So that should be exciting.
So so the next podcast we'llmaybe talk about that, maybe,
(40:41):
maybe something will happen.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
So they do like an oral vote, like yay, and then,
actual, there will be a realvote.
Oh yeah, we go into booths,you're going to be boothing it
because it's going to be thatclose.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
And it's an all-day thing and we have to get up at
630 in the morning to make it toabout three, 30.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
And this is this coming Saturday.
Yeah, yeah, the day beforefather's day.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Yeah, isn't that great.
Well, actually, I kind of enjoythat.
But I will say this I probablyshouldn't say this on on air,
but I'm going to.
I have gotten so and let's,let's talk about sports here in
a minute, but I have gotten.
I've gotten so notdisillusioned, I'm just so done
with politics.
I've gotten so notdisillusioned, I'm just so done
(41:27):
with politics.
And I know, I ran for officetwice and I, I know about it, I
care about it to a certainextent.
I'm always going to vote, I'malways going to be informed.
Yes, jimmy, I am just fed upwith the Republicans in this
state.
I just feel like they're, Ijust feel like they're welcome.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
I just, you know, I just feel like they're.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Andrew, welcome.
Yeah, I just Welcome to theteam.
Now we're going to do a podcastand I'm going to talk about the
spiritual forces behind the twopolitical parties, and I know
I've mentioned this before, butI think we need to talk about it
again because it will explainwhy I have an issue with the
Republicans and why I have anissue, obviously, with the
Democrats.
But the Democrats are, at leastyou know, they're at least out
there Democrats, but theDemocrats are, at least you know
(42:05):
, they're at least out there.
I mean they, you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Let's, let's let's oh yeah, I know where you're going
.
Let's move on.
I know where you're going withthat one, all right.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Okay, so, uh.
So your boy, tom Brady, uh gavea speech.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
This is not my boy I thought you were a Patriot fan.
Everybody knows better okay itmight have been me, indiana,
obsessed with tom brady no, I ama new england patriot fan.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Tom brady just happened to lead us to greatness
over and over and over and overagain.
Lead us like you're on the team.
Yeah, you know what people?
Uh, that is the one commentthat people got really mad at.
When I say we, when I talkabout the patriots, and it's
it's like you're not on the team, you have nothing to do.
But every real sports fanunderstands that, right, am I?
Speaker 2 (42:49):
am I off on that?
Speaker 1 (42:50):
I've never thought I was on the Cubs 2016 team, but
if I'm talking to you, so it'sCubs is a big deal to you.
Yeah.
So if I'm talking to you aboutthe Cubs and you and you're
telling me going to say, well,our lineup, the way our lineup
was, I'll say the cubs lineupyou'll say the cubs lineup
wasn't good.
You'll say not our manager, themanager no, because I have.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
No, I have no ability to change the lineup okay all
right, all right, so okay.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
So let's, we're gonna have to wrap up shortly.
Uh, I'm getting the notice, butI still want to talk about Tom
Brady.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I think we're out of time for Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
I'm sure you are this is all I'm going to say about
Tom Brady.
Go look at it.
It was a speech for Hall ofFame for the Patriots not the
actual Hall of Fame, which, ofcourse, he'll be first ballot
when that happens, but anyway,it was a great line about
working hard and how kids needto play football.
Just because it's hard and lifeis hard, get prepared for it,
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and I thought it was prettyinspirational.
I thought it was great.
So go look it up if you care.
Caitlin Clark man, that's anIndiana story that is national
right now.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Yeah, it's.
Unfortunately.
I watched a couple videos, yeah, playing, and now my entire
feed is full of wmba and I have.
I have no stock in the wmba butit's really hard to let this go
.
It's just like.
It's like a soap opera andthey're loving it because I
(44:24):
think, what were they?
I mean the first nine games.
How many of them sold out?
Speaker 1 (44:28):
yeah and she's the real deal, she's really good,
she's the real deal.
She's the reason why the ticketsales are up and viewership is
up and they have treated herlike trash and and it is.
I mean, it's bad.
It's not just on the on thecourt which has been bad, but
they snubbed her from theolympic team, which is hilarious
, because nobody I mean it'sjust, it's business 101 and
(44:50):
they're they don't care, becausethey don't like her, because
she's white, she's, she's not alesbian, I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
And she's good no, this is absolutely true the wnba
is completely, completely runby DEI, completely.
Okay, maybe no, it's completely.
But here's the deal.
Yeah, the better storyline is.
It's not all of that.
But if they get behind herthey're not going to.
(45:20):
But if they did, they wouldn'tsell tickets and they wouldn't
have people's feed going the waymine is going.
It's making news.
What?
Speaker 1 (45:30):
That she's being treated poorly or that she's yes
, absolutely no, no, that'sgoing to get old real fast.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
No, no, it won't, because people keep watching.
It's like a soap opera.
They keep sucking a minute Fora little while.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
But that's not why they're doing it.
I, but that's not why they'redoing it.
I mean, you got to be kidding.
No, called her to the B word,ran up and slammed her to the
ground.
I bet they do that it was like,but I bet they do that to all I
bet they do it to all of them?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
No, they don't.
They don't, are you telling?
Me that you got those women andthey don't do that to each
other.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
All highly competitive Women are the nast.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Well, I'm just saying that it's getting a lot of
she's coming in as being thisand she's tough, right, but
she's coming in like she'sgetting picked on.
She is though.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
I mean, I sit there and watch her.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
I watch her first game, I mean, they all probably
get hazed initially.
There's certainly going to bean element of that absolutely.
Well, I mean, her dad was inthe crowd one time, yeah, and he
told her to stop being a baby.
Yeah, I mean stop whining.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
She's gonna have to.
But and I mean I remembermichael jordan, just you know,
for for comparison, I mean they,the knicks, beat up on him
constantly.
They went right after him allthe time, didn't matter matter,
they were going to take him out.
So there is some flattery, Iguess, the fact that she's
getting that attention.
But I think as a league they'vegot to fix this.
(46:53):
Nobody wants to see her treatedwith kid gloves and nobody
wants to see her injured to thepoint she can't play and that's
what's happening.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
They stopped doing that to her.
Nobody's watching the WNBA game.
That's what's happening.
They stopped doing that to her.
Nobody's watching the WNBA game.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Well, they will if she scores 50 points.
And that's what will happen.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
She's really good.
I think that this sells moretickets than her scoring 50
points.
I'm not going to see her getbeat up.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
I have to be honest, we had a great time going.
We had a great time going.
I've never seen it's super.
Do you know how cheap it is togo to a WNBA game?
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Did you go to Fever.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Yes, I went to the game.
It's like $2.
Yes, wow, yeah, she's reallygood, but they don't use her,
right it's pretty stark.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
I mean, andrew, they're like what?
15 games in.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
She came hot out of college Like turn around here.
You're now playing with the biggirls.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
They college like turn around here, You're now
playing with the big girls.
They're not that good, they'rethe worst.
The Indiana fever is one of theworst teams in the league.
Well, that's why they got thenumber one pick.
They've gotten the number onepick two years in a row.
Yeah, that tells you I mean andthey're way better.
They are headed to pick thenumber one pick.
Again, I mean it's, it's, it'sprobably, it's probably coaching
(48:07):
, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
When did the Patriots get the number one pick?
Weren't they pretty bad lastyear?
Speaker 1 (48:11):
No, they were bad.
They got a number three and Iwill tell you this too I'm a
Patriot fan and our coach, ourhead coach I'm going to make a
prediction right now he's goingto train wreck this team.
He is DEI all over.
It is really pathetic and it isdisturbing to watch.
He was a great Patriot player.
I think he's a great player,and I have heard nothing but
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whining and racist kind ofattitude.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
What's DEI?
You've used it twice.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Diversity, equity and inclusion.
Okay.
It's where you aren't hiringbases on merit.
You're hiring bases on whatvictim status are you and we
want to bring as much victimstatus people in you know?
That's how we hire, that's howwe do, that's our thing, not
merit-based Okay.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
I'm not going into that one.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
We have gone long enough.
We'll do a whole podcast onthat sometime.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
No, we won't.
That'll be exciting.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
That'll be so exciting.
I won, that was so exciting.
I will be here for that one.
Okay, folks, we want to thankyou so much for watching this
really long podcast.
If you are still here, that isincredible and hopefully maybe
Drew can cut some of this out.
Probably you're not even goingto hear this.
Anyway, episode 26 in the booksGreat time talking with you.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Jimmy, it flew by.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah, it really did.
We had a great time.
Maybe we should do some moreoften so we don't have such, you
know, gab fest.
But, um, please like, subscribe, please, uh, if you want to
reach out to us, uh, for anyreason.
Obviously you can make commentsin the youtube, uh, on the
youtube channel, but if you wantto send us an email, it's uh
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(49:44):
at gmailcom, and we bothactually have that on our phones
.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
yeah, so either one of us might answer you don't
know, probably andrew because Ijust look at him and I'm like,
yeah, maybe he'll answer thatone, because they're usually no,
we we appreciate anything yousend in, we really do.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
And if you have suggestions for, topics.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Um, if you're like man, I watched you guys you told
me to watch, told me subscribeand I got squat out of that.
Give us a topic.
Suggestions for topics.
Um, if you're like man, Iwatched you guys you told me to
watch, told me subscribe and Ihad got squat out of that.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
Give us a topic, we'll do one for you, we'll do
one for you.
Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, unlessit's a cooking show, that's not
going to go well, so yeah, nocookies no baked cookies.
Hi everybody, welcome to the MC Squared podcast.
My name is Andrew McNeil and Iam joined, as always, with my
co-host, jimmy McKenna, that'sright.
Well, this is one of our summerepisodes.
I guess it's a little warm inhere.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It is, I'm glistening already.
Yeah well, I'm alwaysglistening.
It's actually indoors too.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I don't need any more shininess off of my forehead
that just keeps on going.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's all good, I just gave up, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I do, anyway.
So we've got a jam-packed showfor you guys today, tonight,
slash whenever you're watching,listening to this.
So many things gone on in thenews, so much is happening
politically, so much ishappening in our nation.
We are really not having a slowperiod.
Sometimes it feels like duringthe summer, news-wise things
(00:52):
kind of slow down and it's notthe case.
Absolutely not the case.
So it's been a while sincewe've had a podcast.
It has a lot has gone on andit's been a while since we've
talked actually talked politicsor government, because the last
podcast, which was very wellreceived about the fight club
(01:15):
and if you haven't seen that,please go back, watch the
episode 25 Christian fight clubquestion mark and our friendly
instead.
We had a great time with him,he's gotten a lot of good
feedback and it's just doingsome great work, which, by the
way, they just had a graduationthis week, so that was pretty
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All right.
So what do we want to tacklefirst?
We want to jump right into theTrump conviction.
We've got a Trump tax proposalthat came out today.
I thought was pretty exciting.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Let's talk about that .
Okay, yeah, I don't.
The conviction.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, yeah, so it came out today, but it was
actually, I guess, discussedpossibly yesterday evening in a
Republican conference, the bigconference they were having.
Trump was a part of it,obviously, and he proposed
eliminating income taxes,federal income taxes in the
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United States, and he wouldsupplement or use tariffs as a
substitute.
And what's interesting to meabout this, being a student of
history, is that this isactually the way the country was
founded.
That is exactly how we were setup tax-wise.
The only way the federalgovernment could raise taxes was
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tariffs and the president hadthat ability to do it.
It goes back to I think therewas Jefferson imposed tariffs
and there were some otherpresidents that did it.
It's an interesting thingbecause the concept and this is
this is something Rush used totalk about always with
unintended consequences fromgovernment policy, whatever they
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decide to do.
I mean this is just as a rulewhatever they're trying, whoever
they're trying to help andwhoever they're trying to punish
doesn't matter.
It usually works the oppositeand it usually doesn't work ever
like they think it's going to.
So tariffs, theoretically, aresupposed to take the money from
foreign companies who are tryingto import, trying to sell to
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Americans, so, like Trump did atariff on Chinese imports, there
was a tariff for a while onsteel imports, and all of that
is intended to help Americanindustry.
So if America is producingsteel, then you put a tariff on
foreign steel, so you're hopingthat your steel companies will
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prosper in America.
Well, that is the.
That is the theory, and whatactually happens every single
time is it's actually and again,I'm 100% for this proposal but
it is a tax on the Americanpeople.
And why do you think that isBecause we buy things.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yes, I mean, that's the whole reason.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So who is hurt if your imported item is more
expensive?
It isn't.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
The buyer yes, it's us.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
And it's always a tax on us.
But we have a choice.
It's a sale, it's basically asales tax, it works out to be a
sales tax and it it's a choice.
We have a choice.
We know that this item is goingto cost more, um, because of
the tax, we, we don't have tobuy it.
We can buy it.
We don't have to buy it with anincome tax.
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You are working your, your rearend off.
You are earning a?
A, a salary or wage, uh, tips,whatever it is, you've worked
for it, the government hasn'tworked for it, it hasn't done
anything for it, and it's taking37, 40% of your paycheck and uh
, and you have no choice.
In fact, if you decide, uh,decide that you are not going to
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send them the money, they willcome and take everything you own
and garnish your wages forfuture repayment.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
So I like it.
Okay, so explain this to me.
I guess this might be a littlebit more deep.
So the tariff would be on anyimports.
So then companies would bepaying a lot of tariff because
if they had some type ofmaterial that was off, exactly,
they would have to pay more,exactly.
So even if it was a us company,then every everything across
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the board.
Let's say our bag of cheetos,right, okay, it's going to go up
for everybody, yes, now, buteverybody is going to not have
the income tax, so they're goingto have more money in their
pocket, correct.
But everything else is going togo up.
Everything in cost, yes, exceptif you produce it yourself,
like if you are, yeah, so,theoretically, your steel
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producers.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
when they have a tariff on foreign steel,
theoretically your steelproducers will make more money.
But you know what happens,because this is all
market-driven supply and demand.
Yeah, it is so.
If you are a steel producer andyour competitor is forced to
raise their prices, what are yougoing to do?
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You're going to do better.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
You're going to raise your prices.
You're right, because you'regoing to raise your prices right
under them, absolutely Barelyin their economy.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
So it always comes back to, the American people
will pay more Tariffs, notnecessarily a great long-term
solution.
Getting rid of the income taxis absolutely phenomenal and it
is a conservative idea that theRepublican Party long abandoned,
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but Ronald Reagan would havebeen for this.
This is conservatism 101.
The income tax.
Do you know the history of theincome tax?
I don't, oh gosh.
So back in the turn of the 20thcentury, so 19,.
I feel like this was like1917-ish, I think.
That's when the income tax andwe had to pass an amendment to
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allow it and again, I didn't domy homework, so I don't know the
exact amendment, but this wasat the same time that they
removed the election of senatorsby your state legislator and
they turned it to be a populistvote.
So that sounds like a greatidea, but it was actually a way
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of reducing the authority andpower of the state, which is
what the Constitution, what ourrepublic, is built on, anyway.
So they instituted an incometax and the argument?
It was big, big controversy atthe time, but the argument was
for heaven's sakes, people, thegovernment will never take more
than like a 9%.
I mean, 9% is probablyridiculous, but it would never
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go as high as what God requires,which is 10%, so we will always
, as the government, be below.
I mean, that was literally,that was the, that was the thing
, and, of course, the governmentgovernment be below.
I mean, that was literally thething and of course the
government was lying, like theyalways are, and we have seen
absolute confiscation ofAmerican wages and the American
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wage.
The power of the Americandollar in the pocket of the
working man has just depletedever since that time.
So I am 100% for getting rid ofthe income tax.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So tell me, tell me how this affects, just if we
look down downstream, joe Smithand you know he works makes
$35,000 a year.
Yeah, okay, and he's got afamily and let's say his wife
stays at home, so $35,000,that's very, I mean, that's
rough, okay, but let's comparethat to Bobby, who's making
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$350,000 a year.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
So this is where when the rubber meets the road.
This is where the class warfarethat has already been
propagated in America theMarxists have taken over our
economic thought process herewould go wild.
And this is the real battle.
What you hit on is exactly thereal battle, because the truth
is a guy making $35,000 a yearwith four kids at home isn't
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paying any federal taxes.
Okay, so he sees no change tohis income.
The guy making $200,000, he'sgot two kids is going to see his
income probably 40% increase inhis income, in his take-home
income.
You are talking, you're goingto have to sell the American
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people on what it will do forour economy.
It will explode it.
We will see prosperity like youhave never seen if we got rid
of the income tax but how it'sgoing to be spun is what it's
going to.
Oh yeah yeah, it's going to helpthe rich person.
Yeah, absolutely, yeah it's.
I mean, it's absolutely notfair, right?
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Why should we be taking moremoney from somebody who's
producing?
I have have no idea, but that'sthe world we live in.
So I think the politicalreality might be tough, but it
is the fair, proper and besteconomic solution we could
possibly have is to get rid ofthe income tax and also get rid
of property taxes.
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I hate property taxes.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
It's confiscation of land that you own?
Don't you think this should besome type of incremental thing,
where they do one and see how itworks and then do another?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, we know there's already states with no income
taxes and they prosper Florida,Texas, there may be a couple
others.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
They have no income tax.
In Florida they have propertytax though.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Well, I think everybody has property tax.
Everybody loves that idea ofproperty tax.
They love the idea ofredistributing that wealth,
because that's what it is.
You have these farmers thathave accumulated 1,000 acres and
it's difficult because they ownso much land.
The government sees them asfilthy rich which they're not.
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Filthy rich which they're not.
Same thing with large houseshanding down an inheritance to
your kids or any of those things.
The government is looking tobasically take money where it
has no business taking money andit's all in an effort to kind
of level.
We call level the playing field, but it's actually just expand
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the misery for everybody.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
That's all it does.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, okay.
So anyway, I think it's a greatidea, I think it's a
conservative idea, I think itmakes sense and I think I think
it'd be well-received whether itactually happens.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I don't think it'll go.
Yeah, unfortunately, but anyway.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, okay, so let's talk about the Trump conviction.
What did you think?
Were you there?
When did you hear about it?
I wasn't there.
You weren't there.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I haven't watched it much, I'll be honest.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
When you found out about it.
When was that?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I don't know.
I've heard a little bit aboutit, but I've not been super
involved with it.
I don't, like I said, man, Idon't get super worked up about.
Well, that's good, I'll giveyou.
I heard a little bit about it,so I've got a little bit of a
take and I'm just going to throwit out.
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And I think it has a lot to dowith my area, too, of medicine,
as I think that there are somany strongholds in this country
that we believe as truths, andmany of them are being exposed,
and I'll start with medicine andwhat happened in 2020.
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So I think there's a ton ofexposure there, and I think that
there's a lot of smoke andmirrors that are there that have
been exposed, and I think thatour judicial system is also the
exact same way.
I think that there's thesethings that we think that we
hold to, that are going to betruthful, that are going to be
whatever, and we can trust.
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yeah, and they're broken and Iactually kind of and I hate to
say this, but I mean, I think weshould have our trust in one
thing, and it's just beingexposed and exposed more.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, well, I think you hit that nail on the head.
That's, that's a great take,because the reality is they
didn't.
They didn't deal any seriousdamage to Donald Trump.
No, they dealt maybe fataldamage to the trust of the
American people in theirjudicial system.
Yeah, yeah.
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And it became crystal clearthroughout the trial, if you
were paying attention to any ofthe details that came out, not
not only was it completelycompromised and completely
rigged and completely set up,the the charges themselves, that
all of it was just it was outof the pages of the communists
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in Soviet Russia when they wouldhave these show trials, it was
literally out of those books.
I mean it was.
And so when the verdict wasreached immediately, which was
ridiculous and convicted on allcounts, and just you know, 34
counts, whatever I think there,initially at the time I was way
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more angry than I thought Iwould be.
I was actually very angry andvery concerned for my country
and very concerned for mycountry.
I felt deeply disturbed aboutwhere we were heading as a
country, more than I was before.
But since then, because it'sbeen a little while I mean
obviously folks are watchingthis it's going to have been
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maybe a month since it happened.
In retrospect, I have to say Ihave seen what appears to be a
tidal wave of opinion shift, notjust towards Trump but against
the erosion of what was America.
Yeah, we used to be able tocount on, even if you had, every
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once in a while a corrupt judgeor a judge that got it wrong or
a jury that got it wrong youcould depend on.
Well, they're going to get itright, because there's enough
good, law-abiding, god-fearingpeople in the judicial system
who will make a decision notbased on politics or whether
they like the man, but on legalprecedent and what's good for
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the defendant and what's goodfor the country and what's right
, what's lawful, and I don'tthink we believe that that is
going to be the case anymore.
I mean again, I hate to beat adead horse, but the proof of a
stolen election in 2020 is stillcoming out.
It was overwhelming and not asingle judge would touch it with
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a 10-foot pole.
I mean, that was our recoursethat the judicial system would
review, it, would take a look at.
No, it wasn't going to happen.
So Trump raised, I think, $100million in 48 hours.
He had a massive amount of newdonors that poured in.
I have heard so many movie stars, people that we, you know
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models, I mean just you know allkinds of secular people, the
folks that have had nothing todo with politics, saying we've
had it.
We are going to support DonaldTrump and I didn't support him
before, I don't even like him,but this cannot stand.
You had the Dr Phil interviewjust shortly afterwards and that
was phenomenal.
I watched parts of it, someexcerpts of it, but it was when
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Dr Phil talked about that theywere banned off of TikTok
because they tried to do a promofor the show and they wouldn't
allow it because Donald Trumpwas in it, that there was a gasp
in the audience and then peoplebegan to have, I think, almost
the blinders coming off theireyes to realize we are not being
allowed to know what ishappening here, and that cannot
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be.
It has nothing to do withwhether Donald Trump and here's
the dumb thing, jimmy look atthe politics of Donald Trump and
they are actually not veryradical.
No, yeah, they aren't.
I mean he's like obey the lawswe already have immigration laws
on the book, books, shut theborder, like what our law says
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to do.
I mean he isn't rewriting newlaws, it's just literally
upholding them.
Make America great again.
Well, that's a horrible, that'sa radical I mean idea.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Whoever wants their nation to be great Inflammatory
statement oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
So his actual politics are not radical, but
he's not purchased or a part ofthe establishment, and that's
what terrifies them.
So I think we should talk aboutI mean, I think we should what
do you think is going to happen?
Because there's a lot of folksthat are right now saying
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Biden's at a 37% approval rating.
The momentum is all DonaldTrump.
It is all Donald Trump.
It does not matter what thesecular media has done.
He is picking up steameverywhere he goes.
He's going to win in alandslide.
Do you think he's going to winin a landslide?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Well, I think he won a landslide in the previous
election.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
personally, Okay, so that got stolen.
So what changed?
What has changed since then?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Well, unfortunately, nothing has changed and I
believe that our election systemwas also one of those
strongholds that we held to that.
No, this will be figured out inthe election system and that
was kind of one in the electionsystem.
Yeah, and that was kind of oneof the first things to break.
Well, I mean, the medicalsystem broke, the election
system broke.
(19:50):
Yeah, I mean in the last fouryears.
Think about all the distrustnow that's slowly seeping out of
these strongholds that we haveseen as, like you know, these
are truths in our country.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
These are institutions in our country.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
These are institutions in our country.
I heard an interesting and Idon't.
I mean he went on a landslide,yeah, he should, yes, so.
But I heard an interestingthing every time the enemy comes
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at harder, they get penalizedor they get pushed down even
more.
The stronger the attacks get,the greater the enemy is losing.
And so I heard this from JohnnyEnloe and he actually related
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it back to Pharaoh.
I mean, you've probably heardthis, I'm sure you've probably
heard this analogy before.
But it's.
I mean, let my when Moses letthe people go, and every time he
said, oh yeah, I'm going to dothis, and didn't?
It got worse?
And it got go.
Yeah.
And every time he said, oh yeah, I'm going to do this, and
didn't.
Yeah, it got worse.
Yeah, and it got worse.
Yes, and it got worse and itgot worse.
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And now that looks reallyfamiliar to what's going on now.
I mean, everything seems likethe next attack and it gets
worse.
But when do they get to go?
And will we be a part of that?
Right, that's what I want to bea part of Well, think about it
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for a minute.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
So you've got in Egypt and you've got the
children of Israel, so you'vegot the people who are captive,
and you have the government orthe leadership that are the
oppressors, and God's dealingwith the oppressors in that
story.
I think it's very similar here.
I honestly believe in this.
This may be news for somebodyhere, and I think this is a
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really important and good point.
It is not, and it hasn't beenfor a while, about Democrat
versus Republican.
It is about elitists and it isabout the people.
Those are the.
Those are actually the battlelines and that's why you see a
lot of Republican leaders thatare angry and they don't like
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that.
Donald Trump's popular.
That's right.
They don't like it.
When we go off the reservationand I mean they are totally if
this comes, if he wins in alandslide, he wins the house and
he wins the senate and heproposes that the, that the
income tax, it will berepublicans that sabotage it.
Yeah, it won't be democrats.
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Democrats are a veryunfortunately.
I mean don't like it.
I don't agree with that.
They stand, but they'reextremely principled.
They're marxists and if itisn't marxism, they're not
voting for it.
I mean, you know what they'regoing to do.
Republicans act like and talklike they're conservative, but
they are not.
Generally, the ones in power are, for them, staying in power,
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and anytime that looks like themasses are waking up and
starting to figure outsomething's not right.
We've been electing these samepeople over and over again and
nothing is getting done.
Nothing that, oh, they're mad.
They're mad about this andthey're mad about that, and they
don't do anything about it.
We're just being fooled, and Ido believe the positive side of
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this is that God has used DonaldTrump to wake us up, and what I
saw happen after that verdictof 34 counts was an awakening of
people that have said I don'tlike politics, I'm sick of all
of them.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I saw something switch wherethere was almost the attitude of
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yeah, but this is our countryand no politician is going to
destroy it, no judge is going todestroy it.
No entertainment industry isgoing to destroy it.
No, no false election is goingto destroy it.
We have got to stand up and Ido believe this that we have one
chance, jimmy, to get thisright.
It is this time Now.
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I don't know whether DonaldTrump will win, and the reason I
say that is because they hatehim so bad and they don't want
him to win so badly.
They're trying to throw him injail, in prison.
They're going to do everythingthey can.
They will absolutely try tokill him.
They absolutely will.
His life is protected by theLord and if anything happens to
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him, it will be because the Lordallowed it.
Whatever is happening withDonald Trump, he is a tool and
people need to understand this.
He is a tool in the hand of Godand that makes you know who
that makes mad.
Generally Christians.
Yeah, I know the secular people, the people that are rising up.
(24:50):
Maybe they don't even go tochurch.
They see that and they go.
Yeah, absolutely, it looks thatway.
I can totally see that thechurch goes.
How dare you say that he's atool in the hand of God?
Well, he is and he's exposingand God is using him.
So is he going to be swept intothe White House?
He should be, and if he is not,I mean you will see great
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turbulence.
A lot of things will happen.
If he wins, you're going to seeprobably a civil war, because
the ones who riot, the folks whoburn cities down, that's the
left, and when the left doesn'tget their way, they go crazy and
they go revolutionary and theydon't care about law and you
have enough judges that'll lookthe other way.
(25:38):
And so I think that we aresetting ourselves up for a
battle for the country, a battlefor the nation, and you and I
know this.
We have prayed for a long timethat God would have mercy on
America.
We have, and I remember growingup as a kid attending
Washington for Jesus I think itwas 88.
And being on the WashingtonMall as a kid and prayed all
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night.
It was a 24-hour prayer group.
It was a million Christiansgathered on the mall praying for
America, praying for revival.
President Ronald Reagan at thetime gave a videotaped message.
It was just an awesome thing.
I've been a part of praying forAmerica.
God have mercy on America.
He has sent us not just DonaldTrump, but we are in a
generational shift and changeright now and we are joining in
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battle and people don't need towake up.
We are having this right now.
What do you need to do?
You need to pray.
You need to get your life right.
We've talked about this before.
You need to get informed.
You don't need to get down inthe dumps or go down every
rabbit hole.
You don't need to know everyevil, wicked thing that's going
on out there.
Just understand.
It is wicked and evil and theyare trying to destroy us, but
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God is on the case, he isfighting, he is using Donald
Trump, and God has something yetto be said about what is
happening here, and that's whatI want to be a part of and
that's what I want to see.
And even if Donald Trump doesnot win, I'm telling you the
kingdom of God in America isgoing to advance.
It will.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
That's no doubt.
That's no doubt.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Anyway, that's my two cents so let me take you back.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
So you've said a couple good things through there
, so this is something I've saidfor a long time and I know it's
a little bit controversial, butI really think that if you're
going in and you're voting andyou're going and picking a
straight ticket, I think it'slazy, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, just as Andrew justsaid.
(27:41):
I mean, you have to pick theright man, the right woman for
the job and there are rights andwrongs on both sides and I
think that's really important.
I know that was very early onin what you were talking about,
but I feel like it's reallyimportant to say is that you
need to get educated and makethe decision and don't just pick
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a straight ticket, because Ireally think it.
I just I feel like it's a lazything to do.
But here's the thing I fullybelieve exactly what you said
and I think and I'm excited forthat, I'm excited for that day
when God really shows what hewants done here.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, well, I think he's doing it now to an extent,
and that's the thing.
Are we paying attention?
Because when Donald Trump camearound the first time, god was
moved.
I mean I am not deifying DonaldTrump, he is.
I mean I hope he's a Christian.
He may not even be a Christian,I know he says Christian things
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at times, but he also cussesand he's had a sordid past.
I mean I'm not lifting him upto the place of saying he's so
holy, god is using him.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying he is a vessel thatGod has specifically raised up
right now In the Bible.
This is the thing.
These Christians have all beenout of shape need to start
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reading their Bibles.
No-transcript.
God used him, raised him up andanointed him.
The Holy Spirit came upon himand he would tear the
Philistines physically.
I mean, all of the heroes ofthe Bible were all flawed people
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.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
They're all flawed.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
And so we'll have that discussion at another time.
But God is moving.
Sometimes we really don't likewhat we see when he does move.
Sometimes we really don't likewhat we see when he does move,
because the Bible says there'sdarkness and wind and clouds and
things that precede themovement of the Lord.
I mean when God moves it's notalways, you know, roses and
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peaches and, and I mean it'strue, and so I mean the Lord.
In my opinion, my humble opinion, I believe the Lord moved
during the Civil War period.
I believe from the crying outof all of the slavery and the
slaves that cried out and alsothe Christians that cried out
Lord, deliver this country fromslavery.
God moved, he powerfully moved.
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We lost 500,000 men in that war.
It was a horrific rending ofthe country, but it was the move
of God.
We don't like that.
But I think we're coming intoanother period.
I'm not saying we're going tolose that many people or that
kind of a thing, but I am sayingit may not be a bunch of tent
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meetings and we're all singingkumbaya.
There may be some fire that wehave to go through to save the
country and to save the souls ofthis country, and that's the
thing.
We're a platform from thekingdom of God around the world
and we have ceased becoming thatand I don't think God's gonna
allow us to continue to speakout.
(31:02):
I mean, we put the gay flag andthe pride flag on every embassy
in every country.
We are sending that out as ourgospel message.
Now is homosexuality and sexualperversion.
That is the message of America.
If you ask other nations now,god is not going to allow that
to continue.
(31:23):
We've said a lot here in ashort period of time.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, you got really worked up.
Yeah, I know, but I like it.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Well, it's been a month, so there we go, All right
, so let's change real quick.
Let's talk a light subject herethe Terre Haute flag.
Have you seen it?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yes, I have.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Okay, what's your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
All right, so Did okay, what?
What's your like?
What's your thoughts?
All right, so did you know wehad a city flag?
I didn't I knew there, I knewthey were working on it I didn't
even know I had to do they'reworking on it?
Uh, we had a city flag before.
It was very generic.
It was white, said some thingson it, remember.
So this is tarahoe had a logofor a while, a level above, yeah
, but that's not the flag theydid a flag.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
It was like but I mean the logo, I they did a flag
.
It was like the seal orsomething.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I know, but anyway, honestly, I like the colors of
the flag.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, it's blue, and Gold, gold and it's got a Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I mean nobody's going to.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Here's the problem it's got a sycamore leaf on it.
Yeah, but here's the problemthere's not a stem on the leaf.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Which kind of I?
Here's the problem what is it?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
the first, I mean the first thing that came to my
mind when I saw it, and it iswhat I've seen in comments over
and over again it looks like acanadian flag, it looks like we
are under canada.
Now I get all the pieces.
It's the sycamore, uh leaf.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
It's the stars around it or where.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
That's how many states there were at the time,
in indiana, I mean, and the blueis the wabash River, which is a
really funny one, because theWabash River hasn't been blue in
100 years.
But I get it and I don't care.
I mean, does anybody care thatmuch?
Well, honestly, andrew, I think, there's, but they had
controversy over it.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Well, who did.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Well, so parts of Brandon Sackman's administration
got up to protest it beingaccepted.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah, but here's the whole thing.
This is what we have to realize.
Yeah, like Some people havenothing else to do.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, that's it I mean honestly you know, we Right
honestly we follow Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, yeah, okay, and we're pretty serious about that
, right, and that actually is apath that we're on, that we grow
in, and we grow in If we didn'thave that.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
No, I'm serious, we might get sidetracked on a flag.
Oh my gosh, I would.
I bet you would be fired upabout a flag.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
You'd be up there in the front.
If you didn't have it hey, weknow Canadians you would be mad
about it.
I would.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I'm telling you, praise the Lord, praise the Lord
, you've got the Lord.
It does look like a Canadianflag, though.
It does, and that's the thing.
Nobody outside of Darrow isgoing to understand that that's
a college logo, in my opinion,college logo, isu right.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Oh for the Sycamores, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
But why would you do that?
I mean, okay, you've got StMary of the Woods, you've got
rose holman, they're all in vigocounty.
Why are you putting sycamoresas the center of their first of
all and second of all, they'renot the center of our community.
I love isu, that's fine, yeah,but tarot's the center of this
community, not not a college.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
That I think they should, I think we really should
are we a college flag?
Speaker 1 (34:42):
is that the college flag?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
why don't we play off the college flag?
Why don't we play off the nameHigh Ground?
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Why don't we?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
play off of High Ground.
I don't understand, because aFrench person sees Terre Haute
oh, high Ground.
I mean we just call it TerreHaute.
You know, when you try to tellsomebody where you live, they
say you live in Terre Haute.
That's kind of funny.
Why don't we play off a highground and do it.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I know, I don't know.
I didn't even know we had acity flag.
Honestly, I was shocked.
It'll fly in front of thecourthouse, no one will care.
No one cares.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Well, the next revolutionary will change it.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
It does kind of look like Canada conquered Terre
Haute.
I'm sorry, Well French.
Yeah well, it's kind of funny.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Anyway, oh, yeah, I mean Anyway.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Okay, so let's see.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Oh hey, andrea and I are delegates and we are going
to the convention this Saturday.
I bet you're voting for yes.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
So when this airs and I will talk about that so when
this airs we will have alreadyvoted and everyone will already
know.
So Andrea and I are going tovote for Micah Beckwith.
He has been running for theLute and this really it's the
only race that is contested,it's the only issue you go there
for at this point and I amgrateful he's running, if for
(35:57):
nothing else, to give youpurpose for going.
Yeah, we had to pay $150 aperson to go and I didn't
realize that when I put my nameon the ballot $150 a person to
go and I didn't realize thatwhen I put my name on the ballot
.
So I might have reconsideredthat.
But maybe God's got a purposein it.
I hope he does so.
Micah Beckwith pastor inNoblesville area, I believe,
running.
He's a Christian activist.
(36:18):
I've heard him speak.
He's excellent.
He's like, honestly, kind of aReagan conservative.
He's just a very solidconservative, pro family, just a
great guy, very articulate.
So he's been running forlieutenant governor because the
way it's always worked in thepast is that the governor who
wins, the candidate who wins inthe primary to run for governor
(36:43):
for the state of Indiana, then,after they win the primary then
gets to quote pick their choicefor Lieutenant governor.
There's generally zerocontroversy, there's zero
competition and the conventionis basically just a rubber stamp
.
That that's the way it's alwaysbeen.
That's not the rules, and so hetook advantage of that and and
(37:03):
I think there was a lot ofchallenge to maybe they're going
to change the rules to keep himout, and eventually they
decided not to.
And the reality is, this is afight between establishment and
not necessarily an anti-Bronthing.
This is a fight between we'retired of always having these
(37:24):
candidates shoved down ourthroats and the establishment
wants control.
They want to tell us who tovote for and that's it.
And so we have a choice andthey're upset about it.
So fine, um, so he not.
He nominated um julie mcguire,and julie's got an interesting
history and story and so this iswho's going against Mike.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
This is who.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Mike Braun picked for Lieutenant Governor, and this
is who's been sending.
I got 30 postcards at my housethe other day, all at the same
time, of all these politiciansthat look like they're I mean,
I'm in the printing world, Iknow how this works, but it
looks like handwriting on theit's not, but whatever, it's all
these folks, folks, and they'reall endorsing her and she's
great and we should all get onboard.
Well, she may be a great person.
(38:08):
I don't know.
I don't know her well, but Iwill tell you this she doesn't
have a very long resume at all.
She's been a state rep for oneterm and she was the lady that
the establishment Republicanhouse here in Indiana poured
half a million dollars into hercampaign to beat a Democrat.
(38:28):
No to beat another Republicanbecause they didn't like how
radical he was on abortion.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Oh, I know this one.
Yeah, yes, so she's from-.
We've talked about him before.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
She's from the Greenwood area and again, I am
not on board with necessarilyhis tactics.
The former state rep and Ican't remember his name offhand,
but that was odious to me, thefact that they spent half a
million dollars to defeatsomebody in their own party.
That they thought was just alittle too radical.
I'm sorry, the IndianaRepublicans, the conservatives,
(39:04):
they kind of need radicalbecause they're not radical and
they're in power.
They have super majorities inboth chambers.
They really kind of need somepeople that are going to push
them to the right.
So I didn't like that at all.
I didn't like how that washandled.
So that's her, that's who he'spicked.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Kind of sounds like she's the establishment.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Well, it does, they put a bunch of money into her.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
It sounds like she's pretty indebted to them.
Well, yeah, half a milliondollars.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
So, yeah, yeah.
So it's Mike Braun, julieMcGuire.
We're supposed to all stand upand go yeah and vote for her,
which we are not.
I think she still wins becauseI think the establishment has
the numbers.
Wins because I think theestablishment has the numbers If
, if.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I if, if I go with my gut, I don't.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I don't think Micah wins.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I don't you mean at the convention, they held the
numbers.
I think so.
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
But I could be wrong, because I mean, we got Diego
Morales against theestablishment last time.
We got Daniel Elliott againstthe establishment.
Last time those two candidateswere, were, were the
establishment did not want them,fought them, didn't want them
at all, they squeaked by, butboth of them won.
Now in, in fairness, diego wonpretty handily, and that that
(40:18):
was a multiple factors.
Both of them now have come outand endorsed Julie.
So you're like okay, so you'rean anti-establishment, the, the,
the base supports you, and thenyou turn around and you endorse
the establishment candidate.
I just I feel like anybody thatgets in there.
It's just always they getturned up yeah.
So that should be exciting.
So so the next podcast we'llmaybe talk about that, maybe,
(40:41):
maybe something will happen.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
So they do like an oral vote, like yay, and then,
actual, there will be a realvote.
Oh yeah, we go into booths,you're going to be boothing it
because it's going to be thatclose.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
And it's an all-day thing and we have to get up at
630 in the morning to make it toabout three, 30.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
And this is this coming Saturday.
Yeah, yeah, the day beforefather's day.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Yeah, isn't that great.
Well, actually, I kind of enjoythat.
But I will say this I probablyshouldn't say this on on air,
but I'm going to.
I have gotten so and let's,let's talk about sports here in
a minute, but I have gotten.
I've gotten so notdisillusioned, I'm just so done
with politics.
I've gotten so notdisillusioned, I'm just so done
(41:27):
with politics.
And I know, I ran for officetwice and I, I know about it, I
care about it to a certainextent.
I'm always going to vote, I'malways going to be informed.
Yes, jimmy, I am just fed upwith the Republicans in this
state.
I just feel like they're, Ijust feel like they're welcome.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
I just, you know, I just feel like they're.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Andrew, welcome.
Yeah, I just Welcome to theteam.
Now we're going to do a podcastand I'm going to talk about the
spiritual forces behind the twopolitical parties, and I know
I've mentioned this before, butI think we need to talk about it
again because it will explainwhy I have an issue with the
Republicans and why I have anissue, obviously, with the
Democrats.
But the Democrats are, at leastyou know, they're at least out
there Democrats, but theDemocrats are, at least you know
(42:05):
, they're at least out there.
I mean they, you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Let's, let's let's oh yeah, I know where you're going
.
Let's move on.
I know where you're going withthat one, all right.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Okay, so, uh.
So your boy, tom Brady, uh gavea speech.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
This is not my boy I thought you were a Patriot fan.
Everybody knows better okay itmight have been me, indiana,
obsessed with tom brady no, I ama new england patriot fan.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Tom brady just happened to lead us to greatness
over and over and over and overagain.
Lead us like you're on the team.
Yeah, you know what people?
Uh, that is the one commentthat people got really mad at.
When I say we, when I talkabout the patriots, and it's
it's like you're not on the team, you have nothing to do.
But every real sports fanunderstands that, right, am I?
Speaker 2 (42:49):
am I off on that?
Speaker 1 (42:50):
I've never thought I was on the Cubs 2016 team, but
if I'm talking to you, so it'sCubs is a big deal to you.
Yeah.
So if I'm talking to you aboutthe Cubs and you and you're
telling me going to say, well,our lineup, the way our lineup
was, I'll say the cubs lineupyou'll say the cubs lineup
wasn't good.
You'll say not our manager, themanager no, because I have.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
No, I have no ability to change the lineup okay all
right, all right, so okay.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
So let's, we're gonna have to wrap up shortly.
Uh, I'm getting the notice, butI still want to talk about Tom
Brady.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I think we're out of time for Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
I'm sure you are this is all I'm going to say about
Tom Brady.
Go look at it.
It was a speech for Hall ofFame for the Patriots not the
actual Hall of Fame, which, ofcourse, he'll be first ballot
when that happens, but anyway,it was a great line about
working hard and how kids needto play football.
Just because it's hard and lifeis hard, get prepared for it,
(43:51):
and I thought it was prettyinspirational.
I thought it was great.
So go look it up if you care.
Caitlin Clark man, that's anIndiana story that is national
right now.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Yeah, it's.
Unfortunately.
I watched a couple videos, yeah, playing, and now my entire
feed is full of wmba and I have.
I have no stock in the wmba butit's really hard to let this go
.
It's just like.
It's like a soap opera andthey're loving it because I
(44:24):
think, what were they?
I mean the first nine games.
How many of them sold out?
Speaker 1 (44:28):
yeah and she's the real deal, she's really good,
she's the real deal.
She's the reason why the ticketsales are up and viewership is
up and they have treated herlike trash and and it is.
I mean, it's bad.
It's not just on the on thecourt which has been bad, but
they snubbed her from theolympic team, which is hilarious
, because nobody I mean it'sjust, it's business 101 and
(44:50):
they're they don't care, becausethey don't like her, because
she's white, she's, she's not alesbian, I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
And she's good no, this is absolutely true the wnba
is completely, completely runby DEI, completely.
Okay, maybe no, it's completely.
But here's the deal.
Yeah, the better storyline is.
It's not all of that.
But if they get behind herthey're not going to.
(45:20):
But if they did, they wouldn'tsell tickets and they wouldn't
have people's feed going the waymine is going.
It's making news.
What?
Speaker 1 (45:30):
That she's being treated poorly or that she's yes
, absolutely no, no, that'sgoing to get old real fast.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
No, no, it won't, because people keep watching.
It's like a soap opera.
They keep sucking a minute Fora little while.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
But that's not why they're doing it.
I, but that's not why they'redoing it.
I mean, you got to be kidding.
No, called her to the B word,ran up and slammed her to the
ground.
I bet they do that it was like,but I bet they do that to all I
bet they do it to all of them?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
No, they don't.
They don't, are you telling?
Me that you got those women andthey don't do that to each
other.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
All highly competitive Women are the nast.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Well, I'm just saying that it's getting a lot of
she's coming in as being thisand she's tough, right, but
she's coming in like she'sgetting picked on.
She is though.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
I mean, I sit there and watch her.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
I watch her first game, I mean, they all probably
get hazed initially.
There's certainly going to bean element of that absolutely.
Well, I mean, her dad was inthe crowd one time, yeah, and he
told her to stop being a baby.
Yeah, I mean stop whining.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
She's gonna have to.
But and I mean I remembermichael jordan, just you know,
for for comparison, I mean they,the knicks, beat up on him
constantly.
They went right after him allthe time, didn't matter matter,
they were going to take him out.
So there is some flattery, Iguess, the fact that she's
getting that attention.
But I think as a league they'vegot to fix this.
(46:53):
Nobody wants to see her treatedwith kid gloves and nobody
wants to see her injured to thepoint she can't play and that's
what's happening.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
They stopped doing that to her.
Nobody's watching the WNBA game.
That's what's happening.
They stopped doing that to her.
Nobody's watching the WNBA game.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Well, they will if she scores 50 points.
And that's what will happen.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
She's really good.
I think that this sells moretickets than her scoring 50
points.
I'm not going to see her getbeat up.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
I have to be honest, we had a great time going.
We had a great time going.
I've never seen it's super.
Do you know how cheap it is togo to a WNBA game?
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Did you go to Fever.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Yes, I went to the game.
It's like $2.
Yes, wow, yeah, she's reallygood, but they don't use her,
right it's pretty stark.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
I mean, andrew, they're like what?
15 games in.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
She came hot out of college Like turn around here.
You're now playing with the biggirls.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
They college like turn around here, You're now
playing with the big girls.
They're not that good, they'rethe worst.
The Indiana fever is one of theworst teams in the league.
Well, that's why they got thenumber one pick.
They've gotten the number onepick two years in a row.
Yeah, that tells you I mean andthey're way better.
They are headed to pick thenumber one pick.
Again, I mean it's, it's, it'sprobably, it's probably coaching
(48:07):
, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
When did the Patriots get the number one pick?
Weren't they pretty bad lastyear?
Speaker 1 (48:11):
No, they were bad.
They got a number three and Iwill tell you this too I'm a
Patriot fan and our coach, ourhead coach I'm going to make a
prediction right now he's goingto train wreck this team.
He is DEI all over.
It is really pathetic and it isdisturbing to watch.
He was a great Patriot player.
I think he's a great player,and I have heard nothing but
(48:33):
whining and racist kind ofattitude.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
What's DEI?
You've used it twice.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Diversity, equity and inclusion.
Okay.
It's where you aren't hiringbases on merit.
You're hiring bases on whatvictim status are you and we
want to bring as much victimstatus people in you know?
That's how we hire, that's howwe do, that's our thing, not
merit-based Okay.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
I'm not going into that one.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
We have gone long enough.
We'll do a whole podcast onthat sometime.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
No, we won't.
That'll be exciting.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
That'll be so exciting.
I won, that was so exciting.
I will be here for that one.
Okay, folks, we want to thankyou so much for watching this
really long podcast.
If you are still here, that isincredible and hopefully maybe
Drew can cut some of this out.
Probably you're not even goingto hear this.
Anyway, episode 26 in the booksGreat time talking with you.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Jimmy, it flew by.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah, it really did.
We had a great time.
Maybe we should do some moreoften so we don't have such, you
know, gab fest.
But, um, please like, subscribe, please, uh, if you want to
reach out to us, uh, for anyreason.
Obviously you can make commentsin the youtube, uh, on the
youtube channel, but if you wantto send us an email, it's uh
jimmy mc squared podcast atgmailcom the mc squared podcast
(49:44):
at gmailcom, and we bothactually have that on our phones
.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
yeah, so either one of us might answer you don't
know, probably andrew because Ijust look at him and I'm like,
yeah, maybe he'll answer thatone, because they're usually no,
we we appreciate anything yousend in, we really do.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
And if you have suggestions for, topics.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Um, if you're like man, I watched you guys you told
me to watch, told me subscribeand I got squat out of that.
Give us a topic.
Suggestions for topics.
Um, if you're like man, Iwatched you guys you told me to
watch, told me subscribe and Ihad got squat out of that.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
Give us a topic, we'll do one for you, we'll do
one for you.
Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, unlessit's a cooking show, that's not
going to go well, so yeah, nocookies no baked cookies.
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