Gary Metras, the first Poet Laureate of Easthampton, MA, is in conversation with Elizabeth in this jam-packed episode. Lots of Gary's work, discussions on pedagogy, and a lot more!
Find some of Gary's books here:
http://www.thelostbookshelf.com/cervenabooks.html#MARBLE%20DUST
https://presapress.com/gary-metras
https://www.dosmadres.com/shop/vanishing-points-by-gary-metras/
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