November 10, 2023 • 35 mins
Dr. Jack Wolfson is a board-certified cardiologist; his book about natural heart health titled The Paleo Cardiologist was an Amazon #1 best-seller in 2015. He has been named one of America’s Top Functional Medicine Doctors and is a five-time winner of the Natural Choice Awards as a holistic doctor. Over 100 media outlets have covered his work; he founded Natural Heart Doctor, his heart health practice, and his online informational website. In this episode of the Medical Truth Podcast, Dr. Wolfson uncovered some myths about cholesterol and the dangers of Cholesterol medications.
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Intro (00:00):
Get ready to hear the truth, the whole truth, and
nothing but the truth about theUnited States healthcare system
with your host of the medicaltruth podcast, James Egidio.
James Egidio (00:17):
Hi, I'm James Egidio.
Oh, your host of the medicaltruth podcast, the podcast that
tells the truth.
The whole truth and nothing butthe truth about the American
healthcare system.
My guest is a board certifiedcardiologist.
His book about natural hearthealth titled the paleo
cardiologist was an Amazonnumber one bestseller in 2015.
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He has been named one ofAmerica's top functional
medicine doctors, and is a fivetime winner of the natural
choice awards as a holisticdoctor.
With over 100 media outlets whohave covered his work.
He can be found online atNaturalHeartDoctor.com.
It is an honor and a pleasure tohave on the medical truth
podcast.
My guest, Dr.
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Jack Wolfson.
Dr.
Wolfson, welcome to the MedicalTruth Podcast.
How are you doing today?
I'm
Dr. Jack Wolfson (01:04):
doing fantastic, James.
Pleasure to be on and listen,cardiovascular disease, number
one killer worldwide and justhappy to bring the truth to to
all the
James Egidio (01:12):
listeners.
Thank you so much.
For the listeners and viewers ofthe medical truth podcast, a
little bit about who you are andwhat you do.
Dr. Jack Wolfson (01:20):
Sure.
I am a board certifiedcardiologist like my father
before me, and I did 10 years ofmedical training.
So four years of medical school,three years of internal
medicine, took my boards andinternal medicine.
I was a board certifiedinternist, but then I
immediately went on and didthree years of additional
cardiology training and became aboard certified cardiologist.
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And in 2002, when I finished upthe training, I joined the
biggest group in the state ofArizona as a hospital based
cardiologist.
And I would spend 10 years inthat group.
Along the way, I would meet thisyoung woman and she is a doctor
of chiropractic.
And when I met her, everythingwas going well in my world, but
unfortunately my father was sickand dying of a Parkinson's like
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illness.
And the Mayo Clinic sees him andthey say he's got.
What's called progressivesupranuclear palsy or PSP.
We have no idea why we have notreatment.
And then I meet this 29 year oldchiropractor, and she tells me
exactly why my father is sickand dying.
And what she had to say madetotal sense.
I saw the sickness in my father.
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I saw the sickness all aroundme.
And she said, if you want toavoid the same fate, you will
want to become a DC like me.
And I said, wait a second, youwant me to become a DC doctor of
chiropractic?
I just finished up 10 years ofmedical training.
I'm with the biggest group inthe state of Arizona
phenomenally successful by allmeasures of conventional
cardiology.
I said, you want me to become aDC doctor of chiropractic?
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And she said, no, DC doctor ofcause.
And that's exactly what I did.
James Egidio (02:53):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I know that you hadmentioned even on your website,
I saw where you talked about thedangers of statin drugs.
And obviously a lot aboutcholesterol.
So what I want to do is unpackand ask you some questions about
cholesterol and dietary intakeand some of the things that the
listeners and viewers of themedical truth podcast should be
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aware of when it comes tocholesterol and controlling
their cholesterol and so on andso forth.
So what are some of the mythsassociated with cholesterol?
Let's start there.
Dr. Jack Wolfson (03:25):
In a chapter one of my book in my, I do have
this Amazon bestselling bookcalled the paleo cardiologist,
the natural way to heart health.
And chapter one is calledcholesterol is king because I
want everyone to understand howimportant cholesterol is.
Thank you.
When when we mentioned the wordcholesterol, what comes to the
mind of the, viewer or thelistener, what comes to your
mind when people think aboutcholesterol now, they've been
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preconditioned to think plaquethey think eggs, they think
heart attacks, they thinkstrokes, they think blockages in
the arteries when cholesterol isactually one of the most
important molecules In allanimal species, then that's why
an egg contains cholesterol, achicken egg, because that's how
a chicken comes to life byvarious things, including
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cholesterol.
Why does mother's breast milkhave cholesterols?
Because that's how you feed thebrains and bodies of babies.
So cholesterol has been vilifiedfor a whole variety of reasons,
but it's critical.
For all of our sex hormones,testosterone, estrogen,
progesterone.
It's critical for our digestionbecause the liver makes it puts
it into the bile to help usdigest our food.
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Of course, everyone knows thatvitamin D is essential for total
body health and immune support.
And vitamin D comes fromcholesterol.
When the sunlight hitscholesterol in the skin, it
converts it into vitamin D.
And then ultimately cholesterol.
is essential in the cellmembrane or the fence that
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surrounds every single cell inthe body.
So once you take a look at thatand say, wow, that's interesting
about cholesterol.
It's very important.
And now we start talking abouthow we want to optimize those
cholesterol levels.
And that's the strategy.
But, this is the medical truthpodcast.
And, the truth is that.
Cholesterol lowering drugs,statin drugs are the number one
selling class of drugs of alltime.
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We'll get into more about that,but they're there purportedly to
lower your cholesterol levelsdown and it's a big mistake.
James Egidio (05:20):
Yeah.
And, I know a lot of people thatare listening and viewing as
let's say, a patient, forinstance they don't really hear
much about cholesterol untilthey have to go in and get,
let's say, some blood testsdone, right?
And, then they start gettingconcerned about it when the
doctor sits them down.
Or their doctor sits down withthem and starts to say your
cholesterol is real high.
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So what are some of thecomponents of cholesterol that
are found in blood tests thatone has to be concerned about
when it comes to cholesterol?
Dr. Jack Wolfson (05:49):
Yeah, there's, when we think about total
cholesterol, that's ameasurement that was very
popular in the 1970s, but stilla lot of people are caught up on
that.
But there's many more advancedmarkers that we could look at to
tell us what our risk is, andthen we can do some different
changes and then test down theroad and see how we did.
When we look at markers like LDLparticle.
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Numbers and particle sizes andratio is what's called APOB,
APOA ratio.
We can get a lot more in depthinformation than just total
cholesterol.
A very important marker thatdoes happen to be genetic is
called LP little a, LPparentheses little a.
I'm not a proponent of genetics.
I believe that we are built byGod perfectly until man made
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poisonous lifestyle causes us tobe sick.
Now there is a particular markercalled Lp little a that I
mentioned that is a geneticmarker, but something has to
negatively impact thatparticular person with those
genes and it's about 15 to 20percent of people do have that
marker, but most people,including those with
cardiovascular disease, don'teven know that they have it.
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So that's very important to tolook for, but the old time total
cholesterol 1970s panel, we cando so much more and give people
so much more valuableinformation.
James Egidio (07:07):
Yeah, because you hear so much again, when someone
goes to a doctor, it's about,the cholesterol, but then
there's a HDL high densitylipids and LDL low density
lipid.
What is the difference betweenthose two for the listeners and
viewers?
Let me make this
Dr. Jack Wolfson (07:21):
clear that often LDL is called the bad
cholesterol, but that's justpharmaceutical company speak.
There's no such thing as bad.
cholesterol per se.
Now, LDLs have a purpose.
That's why all mammalian specieson planet Earth contain LDL and
they contain HDL.
They're a large part of ourimmune system.
They help to, they're the busthat travel or buses that travel
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around the body.
taking the passengers where theyneed to go.
Now, who are the passengers onthe LDL and HDL bus?
Their cholesterol, of course, aswe said, as you need cholesterol
around the body, for example,the testicles, they want to make
more testosterone.
So they'll call out to theliver, send down more
cholesterol, and the LDL bustakes off and delivers
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cholesterol down to thetesticles to make testosterone
and The ovaries get their supplyand all cells get their supply.
So the LDL bus also containsthings like CoQ10, fat soluble
vitamins, triglycerides, whichis the food's source of energy.
So there's a lot of things thatthe LDL does, and it's also an
antioxidant.
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Same things with HDL.
HDL is often called the goodcholesterol, but HDL also has a
purpose, and that's really toHave that kind of anti
inflammatory component to it,but also to transport things
from around the body that are nolonger needed back to the liver
for processing.
Now, let me finalize thatthought that there are bad forms
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of LDL and there are bad formsof HDL.
The problem is that most medicaldoctors and certainly
cardiologists are not testingfor it.
And we do.
James Egidio (08:59):
Yeah, you must see where a lot of physicians will.
As soon as they get the labresults back for a patient rush
to put a patient on, a statin acholesterol medication, what are
some of the drawbacks with thatwhen someone gets placed on a
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statin right away?
Dr. Jack Wolfson (09:21):
There's really two drawbacks.
Number one is that they don'treally work.
And number two, they've got sideeffects.
And I guess if there's a numberthree, they give people the
false sense of security.
James, go ahead.
Listen, your cholesterol ishigh.
Go ahead and take this drug andit's going to, help, lower your
risk.
But if we don't tell peopleabout all the things involved in
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healthy living, we've reallydone them a disservice, which is
why I've made the claim thatstatin drugs actually are
responsible for killing millionsof people, not directly per se,
but possibly indirectly only inthe sense of is that people can
think they can pop a Lipitor andeat whatever they want, live
however they want.
And that, unfortunately, is adeath sentence according to
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their data.
Statin drugs lower heart attackrisk on an annual basis for most
people for primary prevention.
It's called by about 0.
3, 0.
4%.
That means we lower your riskfrom having a heart attack from
3 percent down to 2.
7%.
So we've missed out on helping2.7 percent of the people.
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What if we say we want the heartattack risk?
To be 0 percent or close to, weknow they don't provide that and
I believe certainly that we do,and we've seen some phenomenal
results because it's really justaddressing the cause through
that lens of eat well, livewell, think well, and from a
medical truth standpoint, yourpodcast here.
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All medical training, alldoctors, all educational
programs, all mainstreamjournals, they're all owned by
the pharmaceutical companies.
When you are only taught aboutstatin drugs, that's what your
life is.
And that's how the cardiologistis trained.
We're not trained in anythingelse.
And the drug reps, they take uscertainly in my training, they
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took us on.
Trips and dinners and golfoutings.
I'll tell you one story.
I remember back when I was inhigh school, my father was
speaking from MerckPharmaceuticals and the
developers of Simvastatin, whichis called Zocor is the brand
name.
And he's we went out to Hawaiiand my father and mother, they
flew first class.
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My brother, sister, and I, wewere in coach.
We stayed in a beautiful hotelfor seven nights.
We had all the meals, all thefood, all the drinks, all the
excursions, everything was paidfor.
My father spoke for one hour.
One hour at that event.
Now, things are not quite as badthese days which is again many
years later.
But the point being is that whatthey did, even in those early
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days was so instrumental and thebrainwashing.
Of medicine and how that'scarried through all these years
and ultimately how they own themedical societies.
All you got to do is pick up anymedical journal, the journal,
the American MedicalAssociation, journal, the
American Heart Association, theNew England Journal of Medicine
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from Harvard Hospital, there'san article.
And then an ad, an article, anad, it goes on so on and so
forth.
So if you're trying to, yourefute any of this information
you're not going to go very far,right?
That's why I'm on your show andthey're not going to necessarily
interview me on CNN or Fox forthis reason.
So I do appreciate theopportunity to be on the medical
podcast.
James Egidio (12:40):
Absolutely.
So what are some of the sideeffects to these?
Because, they don't, like yousaid they're, they don't reveal
too much about that.
They don't make it public,obviously, until maybe there's a
class action lawsuit orsomething by a law firm or
something.
So what are some of the sideeffects to these statin
medications?
Dr. Jack Wolfson (13:01):
Just so you know, there was a statin that
was the subject of.
Of lawsuits and class action.
That was called Bay Call.
Okay.
Sova Statin is what it was.
And that was in the early twothousands, and that was abruptly
pulled from the market.
So here's a drug that wasapproved by the FDA and then
removed by the FDA.
And of course there's dozens ofexamples of that.
And what those people weresuffering from is that they were
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suffering from severe myositis,muscle failure, kidney failure,
because that muscle failure,liver failure, and that drug got
pulled.
All these drugs, again, theyinterfere with the ability, with
the body's ability to do itsjob.
It's very, this enzyme thatinhibits, that the statin drugs
inhibit called HMG CoAreductase, very long name.
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But it's a very importantenzyme, and that's why all
animal species on planet Earthhave that enzyme.
And when we inhibit it, badthings happen.
We don't make cholesterol, whichwe said we need.
They don't make things likeCoQ10, which we need for
cellular energy in themitochondria.
We don't make something calledheme A, which is also in the
mitochondria as part of theenergy production.
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I don't want to get too crazyscience but heme A, again, is
very important as well.
And then also just differentthings that it.
Produces, including somethingcalled dolicol and dolicol is a
steroid like molecule in thebody that the main location of
it is in the substantia nigra ofthe brain.
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And when you have failure of thesubstantia nigra of the brain,
you have Parkinson's and youhave PSP.
Like my father did.
My father took Lipitor and nowhe's dead.
I believe that if we were totest his levels of Dolacol, his
levels were likely very low.
Now, my father also had anotherhabit that was not very good,
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which was alcohol use.
And he wasn't an alcoholic.
He didn't interfere with hislife.
In fact, his life was great onalcohol.
He was a weekend warrior.
He had a lot of fun.
I had a lot of fun with him, alot of amazing stories about my
father regarding alcohol exceptfor the fact he's dead.
Alcohol also reduces the levelsof dolacol in the substantia
nigra, thus leading toParkinson's PSP and other health
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related disorders.
But statins have a myriad of ofeffects, including muscle aches,
muscle pains.
I see it all the time, hear itall the time.
Kidney, liver, thyroid issues.
You're just, you're interferingwith the body's ability to get
the job done.
So it's it's highly
James Egidio (15:27):
problematic.
Yeah.
I did pull up an article aboutthe demyelination as well.
And this is what they said.
These come from a scientificarticle about demyelination of
the of the myelin sheath aroundthe Neuron of the brain which
leads to dementia.
Is there have you heard anythingabout this?
Dr. Jack Wolfson (15:50):
It's just you know the myelin sheath obviously
is incredibly important and itis this fatty like structure
that you know that occurs inthat data you know that is being
shown there's some data tosupport, certainly multiple
myasthenia gravis, multiplesclerosis, which also have many
other causes as well, inaddition to statin drugs, not
the only one.
And then regarding dementia,what they find in the dementia
data is that it can be a littlebit more statin specific.
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So statins can be broken downinto the fat soluble statins and
the water soluble ones.
I think they're all bad, butmost of the data on dementia.
Really goes to the situation ofthe fat soluble drugs.
Now, but that being said,there's just so much money still
in this industry and still inthis paradigm that it's just
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hard to get the truth out.
And every effort is maintainedto promote the benefits of
statins.
Because again, the articlesdon't see the daylight the light
of day, excuse me.
And they.
Also leads to the end of thecareer for the researcher or
worse, for that individualperson.
I remember talking to apharmaceutical.
CEO who came to see me as apatient years ago, and I'm like,
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you guys, is it possible thatthere are threats that are made,
to people and even includingdeath threats, or you'll never
work in this industry again andhe chuckled and, didn't directly
answer me, but, listen, Pfizeris a hundred billion dollar a
year company, pharma in general,1.5 trillion in 2022, This is
big money and big money can makepeople very evil and do evil
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things.
What I, and let me close thatand say now more than ever is a
time for two things.
freedom of speech to be able toquestion everything going on in
this world.
And number two, freedom ofchoice.
Hey, if you want to putsomething into your body.
Go do it.
Absolutely.
You can't force me to do it orforce that upon my Children.
James Egidio (17:45):
I know it.
I know.
And this, of course, it soundslike it's going to go right back
to the vaccines or the COVID,bio weapon.
Dr. Jack Wolfson (17:52):
Let me say one more thing to is that there is
mRNA technology that willtherefore develop antibodies
that will attack LDL particles.
So pharma will have that intheir next toolbox to you
Propagate their hundreds ofbillions in profits.
And then also that LP little a,that I mentioned before there is
MRNA technology for that.
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And it's just sad because we'renever going to outsmart mother
nature.
We're never going to do betterthan our God given abilities, at
least in the next severallifetimes and potentially ever
and it's obviously veryunfortunate.
James Egidio (18:29):
And that actually leads into my next question.
A few questions here on the someof the things that someone can
do to minimize.
They're cholesterol, highcholesterol and in a healthy
state.
Dr. Jack Wolfson (18:42):
iT's really all just is that foundation of
eat well, live well, think well.
So eat well to me represents alot of things, but to me, it's
wild seafood, free range grassfed meats, nose to tail,
including the organs, heart,liver, kidneys.
It makes everything should beorganic and getting all the
pesticides and chemicals out ofour food.
And I also number four is I'mgluten free.
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So if we focus on the foods toeat.
There's not much room left overfor the foods not to eat.
I'm not a big fan of alcohol forthe aforementioned reasons.
It tastes good.
I like the way I feel after adrink or two, but it's just not,
it's just not healthy, typestuff.
It's just not, and if you do it,make sure it's organic.
So you get the chemicals out ofour food.
But eating well is only part ofthe equation.
Living well is part of it aswell.
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And so we think about theimportance of sleep, sunshine,
physical activity or movement,avoidance of environmental
toxins.
So we look at things like moldmycotoxins.
Mold mycotoxins actuallyinterfere with the LDL receptor.
So we do not clear old LDLparticles out of circulation
because of these mold mycotoxinsand certainly potentially other
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toxins.
So mold comes from homes ofpeople with a water damaged
homes and structures, which isjust about everybody.
And there was a famous quotethat that Ronald Reagan, of
course said, trust, but verify.
And that's what we really wantto do is that I trust you when
you say your home doesn't havemold, but I just want to test it
just to make sure.
So there is unique testing forthat.
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Mold is a 21st century healthcrisis.
It is in the book of Leviticus.
Moses talks about it 3500 yearsago about how detrimental mold
is and what to do if your homeis contaminated from it.
A couple of the things that livewell, holistic dentistry and of
course, chiropractic care, butthen think and think well, I
think is.
Yeah, just as important, if notmore important than everything
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else.
When I talk to people with heartattacks and strokes, there,
there was almost always aprecipitating stressful event or
a lot of stress in their lives.
And the COVID myth over the lastfew years perpetuated that the
fear, the anxiety, which isexactly what they wanted, they
socially isolated it.
They destroyed communities.
And again, that just breedssickness.
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So thinking is all about findingyour spirituality.
It's about finding your purposeand your passion.
It's about self acceptance andgratitude.
It is about finding yourcommunity and communities have
changed over the last few years.
So you seek out, your brothersand sisters in the new
community.
God bless the old people.
God bless the family, thefriends who think differently
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than you, but you know what?
They're in the rearview mirror.
Have a nice life.
Wonderful memories.
Goodbye.
It's all about, who we're goingto spend our time with in the
future James?
So I'm going to spend my time inthe future with people like you
and people who I don't see eyeto eye with, there's no reason
that's hey, let's relive someold high school memories or,
like that doesn't matter.
We need to get together with thepeople going forward that we
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need to go with going forwardbecause the world depends on it.
Our freedom depends on it.
Our lives depend on it and ourchildren's lives and our
grandchildren's lives depend onthat.
So it's really important to getthe truth out there and preserve
the freedom to question thattruth.
James Egidio (21:50):
Yeah.
And I think we're at the not the11th hour, but the 1159 hour of
this whole thing with being ableto, especially in, with, in the
last three years with COVID ofbeing able to come out and be
forthright with the truth aboutcertain medical things.
We're here talking about statinand drugs.
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We, we could do an episode onthe vaccine, the bio weapon, but
it just seems like when you doget censored to me, we're like
right over the mark when itcomes to, bringing the truth out
because it's just the way it is,when you get censored, you're
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doing the right thing, it's abadge of honor.
When you get censored, it seemsto me.
No
Dr. Jack Wolfson (22:38):
it's true, but it is obviously unfortunate
because we can reach so manymore people if we could have,
honest debates with people, onmainstream and stuff like that.
But there's just so much powerin the pharmaceutical, military,
industrial, complex big food,big ag, big, big box, this and
that.
It's tough to go against that,we are correct.
(22:59):
We're on the side of truth, andyou would say a lot of people,
fell for it and they're notgonna fall for it again.
That may or may not be trueonce, once the gun is to their
head or the needle is to theirhead.
The other thing, and there's, ofcourse, many different ways in
which they could enforce whatthey want to enforce, but I
think the next bioweapon thatthey release will be much, much
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more detrimental to the people'shealth mental and physical.
And therefore you will getpeople to bow down again and
acquiesce to that, and therewill be much fewer of us that
are still standing.
But listen and that's why andthe important thing is here is
that we need the, to continuethese conversations to continue
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with, medical truth, podcast,get this information out
James Egidio (23:43):
there.
Absolutely.
I agree with you.
I don't think we're out of thewoods on this whole these
bioweapons and more so calledviruses or plandemics.
I just think this is going to bea continuous process and,
Dr. Jack Wolfson (23:56):
yeah, no, I agree though.
They will do it again.
And shame on you if you're notprepared for it, because it will
happen again.
And when you say, and if you'resomeone who's oh, that can't
happen again, like it justhappened, it just,
James Egidio (24:11):
Sure.
Absolutely.
And, it's, we'd sit there and wetalk about even, proper diet.
And of course, exercise is, goeswithout saying is very
important.
But even the food they're tryingto control not only the
pharmaceuticals, but, Bill Gatesis buying all this farmland and
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trying to take and converteverything over to plant based
artificially plant basedproducts.
I just saw where a commercialwhere they were advertising for
like a plant based bacon.
It wasn't even bacon.
It was just a plant basedartificial bacon.
You're talking probablysomething that's processed with
a lot of chemicals and a lot ofprocess processing, with lethal
(24:58):
chemicals, right?
Preservatives.
Dr. Jack Wolfson (25:00):
Yeah.
No, most certainly.
He is he is a very evil man,obviously, for what he's done in
the pharma industry.
What starving African childrenneed is food and shelter and
safety.
They don't need injectionsthat's not what they need.
And when it goes to, riskfactors for the.
For covid sickness and whatevercovid was is anybody's guess.
(25:21):
But nonetheless, it appears therisk factors were things like
vitamin D deficiency.
So the highest levels of vitaminD, the least likely risk, you're
going to have a developing covidmorbidity and mortality.
So what do you do when you getout in the sun with your solar
panel in the sun and you make alot of vitamin D and therefore
vitamin D goes up until thecholesterol levels go down.
So a lot of people with highcholesterol.
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It's a sunshine deficiencysyndrome.
We know that people with thehighest levels of omega 3 from
eating seafood had the lowestrisk of COVID.
We know people with the highestlevels of glutathione, which you
can measure all these things,have the lowest risk.
There was an article that wasfrom 2020 and that was the title
of it.
It says endogenous glutathionedeficiency is the most likely
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cause of serious manifestationsof COVID.
So that should have been thepromoting push all along.
And that should be Bill Gates,message as opposed to the
vaccine message.
It just shows you how fraudulentthey are.
And and that's, all we can do iscontinue to do our best to get
the truth out there.
And hopefully, God will help usprevail.
James Egidio (26:24):
Yeah.
So with that being said aboutthe statins.
being as dangerous as they are.
And there's been a lot of datathat's been collected and
researched over the years onthat.
What are some excellentnutritional supplement sources
for high cholesterol?
Dr. Jack Wolfson (26:40):
So really what happens is that the body doesn't
make too much cholesterol.
The LDL no one makes too muchcholesterol the problem is is it
doesn't clear the LDL particles.
Because of a variety, variety ofreasons can lead to that.
So there are some supplementsthat can help with the clearing
process.
Number one would be berberinenumber two, things like
curcumin.
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Number three grape seed extractand things like that can help do
it.
But I, I'm a big fan of organsupplements.
So when you eat bison liver, forexample, it contains all the
elements of a healthy bison.
That will support your body.
We have a product which is abison liver heart complex.
That's very effective.
So again, a lot of it tends tobe nutritional based, not
(27:21):
necessarily supplements based.
Time release niacin has a role.
People ask about red yeast rice.
It's similar to statins.
I'm not a fan.
So there are some strategies andjust a good old fashioned liver
detox, just detoxing all thosereceptors.
We talked about mold as apotential impossibility.
as
James Egidio (27:39):
well.
Nice.
Nice.
I think I, is there any advicethat you have to anybody out
there that's listening andviewing the medical truth
podcast as far as cholesterolsand medications that they're
currently on?
Or What's your advice to anybodythat would be listening and
viewing this?
Yeah, in that sense
Dr. Jack Wolfson (27:59):
and again, there are trials that actually
show increased mortality oncertain statin drugs sparkle
trial showed the statin usersdied earlier The all hat llc
trials show the statin usersdied earlier In fact people who
are 65 and older enjoyed 18higher risk of dying on statin
drugs the the mr.
(28:19):
Fit trial excuse me the Andthere's another class of
pharmaceuticals they use calledPCSK9 inhibitors.
Extraordinarily expensive.
And actually more people died inthat trial.
There was a report in NewEngland Journal of Medicine.
If you've got concerns, justreach out to us.
Get a second opinion.
This is a partnership with youand your doctor.
It's not a dictatorship.
(28:39):
It's not my way or the highwayIt's a partnership work with a
doctor who resonates with youWho you know, you can have a
conversation with and talk aboutthe benefits talk about the
risks talk about other naturalstrategies And that's it really
is.
It's about gathering informationand then you deciding on what's
making the best decision foryou.
James Egidio (28:59):
Yeah.
And it reminds me of an episodethat I did on eight things to
look for in a good doctor, whichwas a solo episode that I did.
And that was one of them is thisdictatorship of what everybody's
been through with gettingcoerced into using.
And I say forced.
It's just to me, it's word saladwhen it comes down to coerced
versus forced to take this.
(29:20):
Bioweapon that everybody took,but have that relationship with
that physician where they giveyou the autonomy and they give
you that your God given right tochoose what you want to do with
your body.
Now, I'm not saying that, yousplit your head open or you're
getting it, God forbid it.
A auto accident that you refusehelp.
(29:41):
But when it comes down to,getting results back on lab work
and going over, let's say,making the choice of taking a
cholesterol medication versusnot taking a cholesterol
medication, then that should beyour choice at the end of the
day.
Yeah, I know
Dr. Jack Wolfson (29:57):
it definitely should be your choice and
definitely should be adiscussion.
Unfortunately, most doctors arenot skilled in that discussion.
But just like you said, listenwe're very thankful and grateful
for the men and women who workin emergency rooms and trauma
centers.
No doubt about that.
But when it comes to theprevention the reversal, the
recovery from disease, They'vegot nothing.
(30:18):
They've got nothing in theirtoolbox, statin drugs, aspirin,
diabetes drugs, these new drugsthat you know, some of blue tide
and ozempic and things likethat, that they're talking
about, they're all just poisonpills and you're never going to
find happiness in those.
You can have short term success,but then ultimately you'll be
one of these fen people who windup with some kind of damage that
(30:38):
will learn the truth about acouple of years down the road
when they pull these from themarket.
But, again, it's just trying tocheat the system, the way that
we work ultimately eat well,live well, think well, test,
don't guess, evidence basedsupplements, biohacking
strategies, which can be thingslike sauna, red light therapy,
IV, ozone, hyperbaric, a lot ofdifferent things, but just work
with a healthcare professionalthat's very skilled in these
(30:59):
things.
And ultimately in the end, trustmother nature, trust God, trust
our God given abilities with ourbodies.
Our bodies are spectacular.
They are spectacular and we canheal.
We are built to heal always.
James Egidio (31:12):
Absolutely.
And it's such a breath of freshair to speak to a physician and
interview a physician thatdoesn't believe in a lot of
physicians that I've beeninterviewing or the same page as
you are as well.
Again, that book, your book isright here.
It's called the paleocardiologist and it can be found
on Amazon.
I know it was the number onebestseller, correct?
(31:32):
Yeah,
Dr. Jack Wolfson (31:32):
people want to give Amazon money.
Go ahead.
Give Jeff Bezos money so he canbuy up more farmland.
And but you can also actuallyget it from me for free
FreeHeartBook.com.
Freeheartbook.
com is another link and you justpay the shipping and we'll send
that out to you.
The book's 10 years old, but thetenants, in there are all are
true.
The data, of course, has stoodthe test of time.
One place where I've I guessreversed is on coffee.
(31:55):
At the time when I wrote this in2015, I was down on on the use
of coffee, but I've sincechanged my tune on that as well.
Just taking a fresh look at thedata on the health benefits of
coffee, especially when it'sorganic and it's tested from
mold micro toxins.
So that's pretty much the mainthing that I.
Change tune on about, from thatbook, but the website is great
(32:16):
information.
I've got other doctors, who workwith me, a natural heart doctor,
a team of health coaches.
And we got a big mission aheadof us, cardiovascular disease,
number one killer worldwide.
And we aim to actually eliminate
James Egidio (32:29):
that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And what is your take on coffeebefore we sign off?
Yeah, so
Dr. Jack Wolfson (32:34):
actually when you look at coffee it actually
shows that coffee drinkers haveless heart attacks, less
strokes, less atrialfibrillation, less
cardiomyopathy, they have lesscoronary calcification they also
have less dementia and movementdisorders and they also have
less cancer and that's whenyou're drinking garbage stuff.
So if you really drink goodstuff that is organic.
(32:55):
And then this is very criticalas well, James, is to make sure
it's tested for mold mycotoxins.
And I felt so strongly about itand another shameless plug here.
I started my own coffee companycalled Cardiology Coffee, which
is to highlight the benefits ofcoffee on cardiovascular health.
But it is also tested forglyphosate, of which is non
detectable.
(33:15):
And it's also tested formycotoxins, which are non
detectable.
And a lot of times the medicaldoctor is Oh, don't drink
coffee.
Meanwhile, they're drinkingcoffee out of styrofoam cups in
the nurse's station or doctor'slounge.
And but they told you to avoidit.
And if you're out there and youdon't feel well on coffee.
Don't drink it.
But if you like coffee and youlike the way you feel on coffee
(33:37):
then I think it's beneficial toyou.
James Egidio (33:40):
I know, it's funny you mentioned that about,
they'll tell you not to drink itand it's bad for you and they're
drinking it.
It reminds me of the stories Ihear of, the 90 year old guy
who, or 99 year old guy who's,drinking a fifth of scotch every
day and smoking a pack ofcigarettes and still outlives
the guy that's, the jogger andall that.
(34:00):
So I don't know.
Dr. Jack Wolfson (34:01):
Listen, obviously there's not many
examples of that, but they'realways the one outlier to that.
But I think chance chance favorsthose of us who are most
proactive and.
Certainly anybody could look atit and say, you know what?
Come on, I'm not going to do allthis.
I'm not going to eat well, livewell, think well, and test,
don't guess.
And I'm not going to get out ofmy insurance based, model.
(34:23):
And I want to keep drinking andhaving, okay good luck.
Listen, but that's the freedomof it.
You're free to do that.
You're totally free to do that.
But I want to give you myinformation.
So you know that there is a,another way that I believe is
the best way.
And that's what we do.
Thank you.
James Egidio (34:38):
Absolutely.
Amen.
Thank you so much for joining mefor this episode of the medical
truth podcast.
I really appreciate it.
And again, your website isNaturalHeartDoctor.Com, which
I've been posting here at thebottom.
Yes.
Dr. Jack Wolfson (34:50):
Natural heart.
James Egidio (34:52):
I'm sorry.
Natural heart doctor.
Yes.
Dr. Jack Wolfson (34:54):
You're not the first to make who made that but
Maybe it's a marketing issuethat we did, but no, we are
cardiologists, natural heart.
James Egidio (35:01):
Heart doctor.
Yeah.
Naturalheartdoctor.
com.
I'll post that on the website onmedical truth podcast as well.
Thank you so much for joiningme, doc.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right.
Outro (35:14):
Thanks for listening to the Medical Truth Podcast.
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Get ready to hear the truth, the whole truth, and
nothing but the truth about theUnited States healthcare system
with your host of the medicaltruth podcast, James Egidio.
James Egidio (00:17):
Hi, I'm James Egidio.
Oh, your host of the medicaltruth podcast, the podcast that
tells the truth.
The whole truth and nothing butthe truth about the American
healthcare system.
My guest is a board certifiedcardiologist.
His book about natural hearthealth titled the paleo
cardiologist was an Amazonnumber one bestseller in 2015.
(00:38):
He has been named one ofAmerica's top functional
medicine doctors, and is a fivetime winner of the natural
choice awards as a holisticdoctor.
With over 100 media outlets whohave covered his work.
He can be found online atNaturalHeartDoctor.com.
It is an honor and a pleasure tohave on the medical truth
podcast.
My guest, Dr.
(00:58):
Jack Wolfson.
Dr.
Wolfson, welcome to the MedicalTruth Podcast.
How are you doing today?
I'm
Dr. Jack Wolfson (01:04):
doing fantastic, James.
Pleasure to be on and listen,cardiovascular disease, number
one killer worldwide and justhappy to bring the truth to to
all the
James Egidio (01:12):
listeners.
Thank you so much.
For the listeners and viewers ofthe medical truth podcast, a
little bit about who you are andwhat you do.
Dr. Jack Wolfson (01:20):
Sure.
I am a board certifiedcardiologist like my father
before me, and I did 10 years ofmedical training.
So four years of medical school,three years of internal
medicine, took my boards andinternal medicine.
I was a board certifiedinternist, but then I
immediately went on and didthree years of additional
cardiology training and became aboard certified cardiologist.
(01:42):
And in 2002, when I finished upthe training, I joined the
biggest group in the state ofArizona as a hospital based
cardiologist.
And I would spend 10 years inthat group.
Along the way, I would meet thisyoung woman and she is a doctor
of chiropractic.
And when I met her, everythingwas going well in my world, but
unfortunately my father was sickand dying of a Parkinson's like
(02:04):
illness.
And the Mayo Clinic sees him andthey say he's got.
What's called progressivesupranuclear palsy or PSP.
We have no idea why we have notreatment.
And then I meet this 29 year oldchiropractor, and she tells me
exactly why my father is sickand dying.
And what she had to say madetotal sense.
I saw the sickness in my father.
(02:24):
I saw the sickness all aroundme.
And she said, if you want toavoid the same fate, you will
want to become a DC like me.
And I said, wait a second, youwant me to become a DC doctor of
chiropractic?
I just finished up 10 years ofmedical training.
I'm with the biggest group inthe state of Arizona
phenomenally successful by allmeasures of conventional
cardiology.
I said, you want me to become aDC doctor of chiropractic?
(02:46):
And she said, no, DC doctor ofcause.
And that's exactly what I did.
James Egidio (02:53):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I know that you hadmentioned even on your website,
I saw where you talked about thedangers of statin drugs.
And obviously a lot aboutcholesterol.
So what I want to do is unpackand ask you some questions about
cholesterol and dietary intakeand some of the things that the
listeners and viewers of themedical truth podcast should be
(03:15):
aware of when it comes tocholesterol and controlling
their cholesterol and so on andso forth.
So what are some of the mythsassociated with cholesterol?
Let's start there.
Dr. Jack Wolfson (03:25):
In a chapter one of my book in my, I do have
this Amazon bestselling bookcalled the paleo cardiologist,
the natural way to heart health.
And chapter one is calledcholesterol is king because I
want everyone to understand howimportant cholesterol is.
Thank you.
When when we mentioned the wordcholesterol, what comes to the
mind of the, viewer or thelistener, what comes to your
mind when people think aboutcholesterol now, they've been
(03:47):
preconditioned to think plaquethey think eggs, they think
heart attacks, they thinkstrokes, they think blockages in
the arteries when cholesterol isactually one of the most
important molecules In allanimal species, then that's why
an egg contains cholesterol, achicken egg, because that's how
a chicken comes to life byvarious things, including
(04:08):
cholesterol.
Why does mother's breast milkhave cholesterols?
Because that's how you feed thebrains and bodies of babies.
So cholesterol has been vilifiedfor a whole variety of reasons,
but it's critical.
For all of our sex hormones,testosterone, estrogen,
progesterone.
It's critical for our digestionbecause the liver makes it puts
it into the bile to help usdigest our food.
(04:30):
Of course, everyone knows thatvitamin D is essential for total
body health and immune support.
And vitamin D comes fromcholesterol.
When the sunlight hitscholesterol in the skin, it
converts it into vitamin D.
And then ultimately cholesterol.
is essential in the cellmembrane or the fence that
(04:50):
surrounds every single cell inthe body.
So once you take a look at thatand say, wow, that's interesting
about cholesterol.
It's very important.
And now we start talking abouthow we want to optimize those
cholesterol levels.
And that's the strategy.
But, this is the medical truthpodcast.
And, the truth is that.
Cholesterol lowering drugs,statin drugs are the number one
selling class of drugs of alltime.
(05:12):
We'll get into more about that,but they're there purportedly to
lower your cholesterol levelsdown and it's a big mistake.
James Egidio (05:20):
Yeah.
And, I know a lot of people thatare listening and viewing as
let's say, a patient, forinstance they don't really hear
much about cholesterol untilthey have to go in and get,
let's say, some blood testsdone, right?
And, then they start gettingconcerned about it when the
doctor sits them down.
Or their doctor sits down withthem and starts to say your
cholesterol is real high.
(05:41):
So what are some of thecomponents of cholesterol that
are found in blood tests thatone has to be concerned about
when it comes to cholesterol?
Dr. Jack Wolfson (05:49):
Yeah, there's, when we think about total
cholesterol, that's ameasurement that was very
popular in the 1970s, but stilla lot of people are caught up on
that.
But there's many more advancedmarkers that we could look at to
tell us what our risk is, andthen we can do some different
changes and then test down theroad and see how we did.
When we look at markers like LDLparticle.
(06:12):
Numbers and particle sizes andratio is what's called APOB,
APOA ratio.
We can get a lot more in depthinformation than just total
cholesterol.
A very important marker thatdoes happen to be genetic is
called LP little a, LPparentheses little a.
I'm not a proponent of genetics.
I believe that we are built byGod perfectly until man made
(06:34):
poisonous lifestyle causes us tobe sick.
Now there is a particular markercalled Lp little a that I
mentioned that is a geneticmarker, but something has to
negatively impact thatparticular person with those
genes and it's about 15 to 20percent of people do have that
marker, but most people,including those with
cardiovascular disease, don'teven know that they have it.
(06:56):
So that's very important to tolook for, but the old time total
cholesterol 1970s panel, we cando so much more and give people
so much more valuableinformation.
James Egidio (07:07):
Yeah, because you hear so much again, when someone
goes to a doctor, it's about,the cholesterol, but then
there's a HDL high densitylipids and LDL low density
lipid.
What is the difference betweenthose two for the listeners and
viewers?
Let me make this
Dr. Jack Wolfson (07:21):
clear that often LDL is called the bad
cholesterol, but that's justpharmaceutical company speak.
There's no such thing as bad.
cholesterol per se.
Now, LDLs have a purpose.
That's why all mammalian specieson planet Earth contain LDL and
they contain HDL.
They're a large part of ourimmune system.
They help to, they're the busthat travel or buses that travel
(07:44):
around the body.
taking the passengers where theyneed to go.
Now, who are the passengers onthe LDL and HDL bus?
Their cholesterol, of course, aswe said, as you need cholesterol
around the body, for example,the testicles, they want to make
more testosterone.
So they'll call out to theliver, send down more
cholesterol, and the LDL bustakes off and delivers
(08:05):
cholesterol down to thetesticles to make testosterone
and The ovaries get their supplyand all cells get their supply.
So the LDL bus also containsthings like CoQ10, fat soluble
vitamins, triglycerides, whichis the food's source of energy.
So there's a lot of things thatthe LDL does, and it's also an
antioxidant.
(08:25):
Same things with HDL.
HDL is often called the goodcholesterol, but HDL also has a
purpose, and that's really toHave that kind of anti
inflammatory component to it,but also to transport things
from around the body that are nolonger needed back to the liver
for processing.
Now, let me finalize thatthought that there are bad forms
(08:48):
of LDL and there are bad formsof HDL.
The problem is that most medicaldoctors and certainly
cardiologists are not testingfor it.
And we do.
James Egidio (08:59):
Yeah, you must see where a lot of physicians will.
As soon as they get the labresults back for a patient rush
to put a patient on, a statin acholesterol medication, what are
some of the drawbacks with thatwhen someone gets placed on a
(09:19):
statin right away?
Dr. Jack Wolfson (09:21):
There's really two drawbacks.
Number one is that they don'treally work.
And number two, they've got sideeffects.
And I guess if there's a numberthree, they give people the
false sense of security.
James, go ahead.
Listen, your cholesterol ishigh.
Go ahead and take this drug andit's going to, help, lower your
risk.
But if we don't tell peopleabout all the things involved in
(09:44):
healthy living, we've reallydone them a disservice, which is
why I've made the claim thatstatin drugs actually are
responsible for killing millionsof people, not directly per se,
but possibly indirectly only inthe sense of is that people can
think they can pop a Lipitor andeat whatever they want, live
however they want.
And that, unfortunately, is adeath sentence according to
(10:07):
their data.
Statin drugs lower heart attackrisk on an annual basis for most
people for primary prevention.
It's called by about 0.
3, 0.
4%.
That means we lower your riskfrom having a heart attack from
3 percent down to 2.
7%.
So we've missed out on helping2.7 percent of the people.
(10:31):
What if we say we want the heartattack risk?
To be 0 percent or close to, weknow they don't provide that and
I believe certainly that we do,and we've seen some phenomenal
results because it's really justaddressing the cause through
that lens of eat well, livewell, think well, and from a
medical truth standpoint, yourpodcast here.
(10:51):
All medical training, alldoctors, all educational
programs, all mainstreamjournals, they're all owned by
the pharmaceutical companies.
When you are only taught aboutstatin drugs, that's what your
life is.
And that's how the cardiologistis trained.
We're not trained in anythingelse.
And the drug reps, they take uscertainly in my training, they
(11:13):
took us on.
Trips and dinners and golfoutings.
I'll tell you one story.
I remember back when I was inhigh school, my father was
speaking from MerckPharmaceuticals and the
developers of Simvastatin, whichis called Zocor is the brand
name.
And he's we went out to Hawaiiand my father and mother, they
flew first class.
(11:33):
My brother, sister, and I, wewere in coach.
We stayed in a beautiful hotelfor seven nights.
We had all the meals, all thefood, all the drinks, all the
excursions, everything was paidfor.
My father spoke for one hour.
One hour at that event.
Now, things are not quite as badthese days which is again many
years later.
But the point being is that whatthey did, even in those early
(11:57):
days was so instrumental and thebrainwashing.
Of medicine and how that'scarried through all these years
and ultimately how they own themedical societies.
All you got to do is pick up anymedical journal, the journal,
the American MedicalAssociation, journal, the
American Heart Association, theNew England Journal of Medicine
(12:19):
from Harvard Hospital, there'san article.
And then an ad, an article, anad, it goes on so on and so
forth.
So if you're trying to, yourefute any of this information
you're not going to go very far,right?
That's why I'm on your show andthey're not going to necessarily
interview me on CNN or Fox forthis reason.
So I do appreciate theopportunity to be on the medical
podcast.
James Egidio (12:40):
Absolutely.
So what are some of the sideeffects to these?
Because, they don't, like yousaid they're, they don't reveal
too much about that.
They don't make it public,obviously, until maybe there's a
class action lawsuit orsomething by a law firm or
something.
So what are some of the sideeffects to these statin
medications?
Dr. Jack Wolfson (13:01):
Just so you know, there was a statin that
was the subject of.
Of lawsuits and class action.
That was called Bay Call.
Okay.
Sova Statin is what it was.
And that was in the early twothousands, and that was abruptly
pulled from the market.
So here's a drug that wasapproved by the FDA and then
removed by the FDA.
And of course there's dozens ofexamples of that.
And what those people weresuffering from is that they were
(13:23):
suffering from severe myositis,muscle failure, kidney failure,
because that muscle failure,liver failure, and that drug got
pulled.
All these drugs, again, theyinterfere with the ability, with
the body's ability to do itsjob.
It's very, this enzyme thatinhibits, that the statin drugs
inhibit called HMG CoAreductase, very long name.
(13:44):
But it's a very importantenzyme, and that's why all
animal species on planet Earthhave that enzyme.
And when we inhibit it, badthings happen.
We don't make cholesterol, whichwe said we need.
They don't make things likeCoQ10, which we need for
cellular energy in themitochondria.
We don't make something calledheme A, which is also in the
mitochondria as part of theenergy production.
(14:04):
I don't want to get too crazyscience but heme A, again, is
very important as well.
And then also just differentthings that it.
Produces, including somethingcalled dolicol and dolicol is a
steroid like molecule in thebody that the main location of
it is in the substantia nigra ofthe brain.
(14:27):
And when you have failure of thesubstantia nigra of the brain,
you have Parkinson's and youhave PSP.
Like my father did.
My father took Lipitor and nowhe's dead.
I believe that if we were totest his levels of Dolacol, his
levels were likely very low.
Now, my father also had anotherhabit that was not very good,
(14:48):
which was alcohol use.
And he wasn't an alcoholic.
He didn't interfere with hislife.
In fact, his life was great onalcohol.
He was a weekend warrior.
He had a lot of fun.
I had a lot of fun with him, alot of amazing stories about my
father regarding alcohol exceptfor the fact he's dead.
Alcohol also reduces the levelsof dolacol in the substantia
nigra, thus leading toParkinson's PSP and other health
(15:11):
related disorders.
But statins have a myriad of ofeffects, including muscle aches,
muscle pains.
I see it all the time, hear itall the time.
Kidney, liver, thyroid issues.
You're just, you're interferingwith the body's ability to get
the job done.
So it's it's highly
James Egidio (15:27):
problematic.
Yeah.
I did pull up an article aboutthe demyelination as well.
And this is what they said.
These come from a scientificarticle about demyelination of
the of the myelin sheath aroundthe Neuron of the brain which
leads to dementia.
Is there have you heard anythingabout this?
Dr. Jack Wolfson (15:50):
It's just you know the myelin sheath obviously
is incredibly important and itis this fatty like structure
that you know that occurs inthat data you know that is being
shown there's some data tosupport, certainly multiple
myasthenia gravis, multiplesclerosis, which also have many
other causes as well, inaddition to statin drugs, not
the only one.
And then regarding dementia,what they find in the dementia
data is that it can be a littlebit more statin specific.
(16:13):
So statins can be broken downinto the fat soluble statins and
the water soluble ones.
I think they're all bad, butmost of the data on dementia.
Really goes to the situation ofthe fat soluble drugs.
Now, but that being said,there's just so much money still
in this industry and still inthis paradigm that it's just
(16:34):
hard to get the truth out.
And every effort is maintainedto promote the benefits of
statins.
Because again, the articlesdon't see the daylight the light
of day, excuse me.
And they.
Also leads to the end of thecareer for the researcher or
worse, for that individualperson.
I remember talking to apharmaceutical.
CEO who came to see me as apatient years ago, and I'm like,
(16:58):
you guys, is it possible thatthere are threats that are made,
to people and even includingdeath threats, or you'll never
work in this industry again andhe chuckled and, didn't directly
answer me, but, listen, Pfizeris a hundred billion dollar a
year company, pharma in general,1.5 trillion in 2022, This is
big money and big money can makepeople very evil and do evil
(17:21):
things.
What I, and let me close thatand say now more than ever is a
time for two things.
freedom of speech to be able toquestion everything going on in
this world.
And number two, freedom ofchoice.
Hey, if you want to putsomething into your body.
Go do it.
Absolutely.
You can't force me to do it orforce that upon my Children.
James Egidio (17:45):
I know it.
I know.
And this, of course, it soundslike it's going to go right back
to the vaccines or the COVID,bio weapon.
Dr. Jack Wolfson (17:52):
Let me say one more thing to is that there is
mRNA technology that willtherefore develop antibodies
that will attack LDL particles.
So pharma will have that intheir next toolbox to you
Propagate their hundreds ofbillions in profits.
And then also that LP little a,that I mentioned before there is
MRNA technology for that.
(18:13):
And it's just sad because we'renever going to outsmart mother
nature.
We're never going to do betterthan our God given abilities, at
least in the next severallifetimes and potentially ever
and it's obviously veryunfortunate.
James Egidio (18:29):
And that actually leads into my next question.
A few questions here on the someof the things that someone can
do to minimize.
They're cholesterol, highcholesterol and in a healthy
state.
Dr. Jack Wolfson (18:42):
iT's really all just is that foundation of
eat well, live well, think well.
So eat well to me represents alot of things, but to me, it's
wild seafood, free range grassfed meats, nose to tail,
including the organs, heart,liver, kidneys.
It makes everything should beorganic and getting all the
pesticides and chemicals out ofour food.
And I also number four is I'mgluten free.
(19:03):
So if we focus on the foods toeat.
There's not much room left overfor the foods not to eat.
I'm not a big fan of alcohol forthe aforementioned reasons.
It tastes good.
I like the way I feel after adrink or two, but it's just not,
it's just not healthy, typestuff.
It's just not, and if you do it,make sure it's organic.
So you get the chemicals out ofour food.
But eating well is only part ofthe equation.
Living well is part of it aswell.
(19:24):
And so we think about theimportance of sleep, sunshine,
physical activity or movement,avoidance of environmental
toxins.
So we look at things like moldmycotoxins.
Mold mycotoxins actuallyinterfere with the LDL receptor.
So we do not clear old LDLparticles out of circulation
because of these mold mycotoxinsand certainly potentially other
(19:45):
toxins.
So mold comes from homes ofpeople with a water damaged
homes and structures, which isjust about everybody.
And there was a famous quotethat that Ronald Reagan, of
course said, trust, but verify.
And that's what we really wantto do is that I trust you when
you say your home doesn't havemold, but I just want to test it
just to make sure.
So there is unique testing forthat.
(20:06):
Mold is a 21st century healthcrisis.
It is in the book of Leviticus.
Moses talks about it 3500 yearsago about how detrimental mold
is and what to do if your homeis contaminated from it.
A couple of the things that livewell, holistic dentistry and of
course, chiropractic care, butthen think and think well, I
think is.
Yeah, just as important, if notmore important than everything
(20:27):
else.
When I talk to people with heartattacks and strokes, there,
there was almost always aprecipitating stressful event or
a lot of stress in their lives.
And the COVID myth over the lastfew years perpetuated that the
fear, the anxiety, which isexactly what they wanted, they
socially isolated it.
They destroyed communities.
And again, that just breedssickness.
(20:48):
So thinking is all about findingyour spirituality.
It's about finding your purposeand your passion.
It's about self acceptance andgratitude.
It is about finding yourcommunity and communities have
changed over the last few years.
So you seek out, your brothersand sisters in the new
community.
God bless the old people.
God bless the family, thefriends who think differently
(21:10):
than you, but you know what?
They're in the rearview mirror.
Have a nice life.
Wonderful memories.
Goodbye.
It's all about, who we're goingto spend our time with in the
future James?
So I'm going to spend my time inthe future with people like you
and people who I don't see eyeto eye with, there's no reason
that's hey, let's relive someold high school memories or,
like that doesn't matter.
We need to get together with thepeople going forward that we
(21:31):
need to go with going forwardbecause the world depends on it.
Our freedom depends on it.
Our lives depend on it and ourchildren's lives and our
grandchildren's lives depend onthat.
So it's really important to getthe truth out there and preserve
the freedom to question thattruth.
James Egidio (21:50):
Yeah.
And I think we're at the not the11th hour, but the 1159 hour of
this whole thing with being ableto, especially in, with, in the
last three years with COVID ofbeing able to come out and be
forthright with the truth aboutcertain medical things.
We're here talking about statinand drugs.
(22:11):
We, we could do an episode onthe vaccine, the bio weapon, but
it just seems like when you doget censored to me, we're like
right over the mark when itcomes to, bringing the truth out
because it's just the way it is,when you get censored, you're
(22:31):
doing the right thing, it's abadge of honor.
When you get censored, it seemsto me.
No
Dr. Jack Wolfson (22:38):
it's true, but it is obviously unfortunate
because we can reach so manymore people if we could have,
honest debates with people, onmainstream and stuff like that.
But there's just so much powerin the pharmaceutical, military,
industrial, complex big food,big ag, big, big box, this and
that.
It's tough to go against that,we are correct.
(22:59):
We're on the side of truth, andyou would say a lot of people,
fell for it and they're notgonna fall for it again.
That may or may not be trueonce, once the gun is to their
head or the needle is to theirhead.
The other thing, and there's, ofcourse, many different ways in
which they could enforce whatthey want to enforce, but I
think the next bioweapon thatthey release will be much, much
(23:20):
more detrimental to the people'shealth mental and physical.
And therefore you will getpeople to bow down again and
acquiesce to that, and therewill be much fewer of us that
are still standing.
But listen and that's why andthe important thing is here is
that we need the, to continuethese conversations to continue
(23:40):
with, medical truth, podcast,get this information out
James Egidio (23:43):
there.
Absolutely.
I agree with you.
I don't think we're out of thewoods on this whole these
bioweapons and more so calledviruses or plandemics.
I just think this is going to bea continuous process and,
Dr. Jack Wolfson (23:56):
yeah, no, I agree though.
They will do it again.
And shame on you if you're notprepared for it, because it will
happen again.
And when you say, and if you'resomeone who's oh, that can't
happen again, like it justhappened, it just,
James Egidio (24:11):
Sure.
Absolutely.
And, it's, we'd sit there and wetalk about even, proper diet.
And of course, exercise is, goeswithout saying is very
important.
But even the food they're tryingto control not only the
pharmaceuticals, but, Bill Gatesis buying all this farmland and
(24:31):
trying to take and converteverything over to plant based
artificially plant basedproducts.
I just saw where a commercialwhere they were advertising for
like a plant based bacon.
It wasn't even bacon.
It was just a plant basedartificial bacon.
You're talking probablysomething that's processed with
a lot of chemicals and a lot ofprocess processing, with lethal
(24:58):
chemicals, right?
Preservatives.
Dr. Jack Wolfson (25:00):
Yeah.
No, most certainly.
He is he is a very evil man,obviously, for what he's done in
the pharma industry.
What starving African childrenneed is food and shelter and
safety.
They don't need injectionsthat's not what they need.
And when it goes to, riskfactors for the.
For covid sickness and whatevercovid was is anybody's guess.
(25:21):
But nonetheless, it appears therisk factors were things like
vitamin D deficiency.
So the highest levels of vitaminD, the least likely risk, you're
going to have a developing covidmorbidity and mortality.
So what do you do when you getout in the sun with your solar
panel in the sun and you make alot of vitamin D and therefore
vitamin D goes up until thecholesterol levels go down.
So a lot of people with highcholesterol.
(25:43):
It's a sunshine deficiencysyndrome.
We know that people with thehighest levels of omega 3 from
eating seafood had the lowestrisk of COVID.
We know people with the highestlevels of glutathione, which you
can measure all these things,have the lowest risk.
There was an article that wasfrom 2020 and that was the title
of it.
It says endogenous glutathionedeficiency is the most likely
(26:03):
cause of serious manifestationsof COVID.
So that should have been thepromoting push all along.
And that should be Bill Gates,message as opposed to the
vaccine message.
It just shows you how fraudulentthey are.
And and that's, all we can do iscontinue to do our best to get
the truth out there.
And hopefully, God will help usprevail.
James Egidio (26:24):
Yeah.
So with that being said aboutthe statins.
being as dangerous as they are.
And there's been a lot of datathat's been collected and
researched over the years onthat.
What are some excellentnutritional supplement sources
for high cholesterol?
Dr. Jack Wolfson (26:40):
So really what happens is that the body doesn't
make too much cholesterol.
The LDL no one makes too muchcholesterol the problem is is it
doesn't clear the LDL particles.
Because of a variety, variety ofreasons can lead to that.
So there are some supplementsthat can help with the clearing
process.
Number one would be berberinenumber two, things like
curcumin.
(27:00):
Number three grape seed extractand things like that can help do
it.
But I, I'm a big fan of organsupplements.
So when you eat bison liver, forexample, it contains all the
elements of a healthy bison.
That will support your body.
We have a product which is abison liver heart complex.
That's very effective.
So again, a lot of it tends tobe nutritional based, not
(27:21):
necessarily supplements based.
Time release niacin has a role.
People ask about red yeast rice.
It's similar to statins.
I'm not a fan.
So there are some strategies andjust a good old fashioned liver
detox, just detoxing all thosereceptors.
We talked about mold as apotential impossibility.
as
James Egidio (27:39):
well.
Nice.
Nice.
I think I, is there any advicethat you have to anybody out
there that's listening andviewing the medical truth
podcast as far as cholesterolsand medications that they're
currently on?
Or What's your advice to anybodythat would be listening and
viewing this?
Yeah, in that sense
Dr. Jack Wolfson (27:59):
and again, there are trials that actually
show increased mortality oncertain statin drugs sparkle
trial showed the statin usersdied earlier The all hat llc
trials show the statin usersdied earlier In fact people who
are 65 and older enjoyed 18higher risk of dying on statin
drugs the the mr.
(28:19):
Fit trial excuse me the Andthere's another class of
pharmaceuticals they use calledPCSK9 inhibitors.
Extraordinarily expensive.
And actually more people died inthat trial.
There was a report in NewEngland Journal of Medicine.
If you've got concerns, justreach out to us.
Get a second opinion.
This is a partnership with youand your doctor.
It's not a dictatorship.
(28:39):
It's not my way or the highwayIt's a partnership work with a
doctor who resonates with youWho you know, you can have a
conversation with and talk aboutthe benefits talk about the
risks talk about other naturalstrategies And that's it really
is.
It's about gathering informationand then you deciding on what's
making the best decision foryou.
James Egidio (28:59):
Yeah.
And it reminds me of an episodethat I did on eight things to
look for in a good doctor, whichwas a solo episode that I did.
And that was one of them is thisdictatorship of what everybody's
been through with gettingcoerced into using.
And I say forced.
It's just to me, it's word saladwhen it comes down to coerced
versus forced to take this.
(29:20):
Bioweapon that everybody took,but have that relationship with
that physician where they giveyou the autonomy and they give
you that your God given right tochoose what you want to do with
your body.
Now, I'm not saying that, yousplit your head open or you're
getting it, God forbid it.
A auto accident that you refusehelp.
(29:41):
But when it comes down to,getting results back on lab work
and going over, let's say,making the choice of taking a
cholesterol medication versusnot taking a cholesterol
medication, then that should beyour choice at the end of the
day.
Yeah, I know
Dr. Jack Wolfson (29:57):
it definitely should be your choice and
definitely should be adiscussion.
Unfortunately, most doctors arenot skilled in that discussion.
But just like you said, listenwe're very thankful and grateful
for the men and women who workin emergency rooms and trauma
centers.
No doubt about that.
But when it comes to theprevention the reversal, the
recovery from disease, They'vegot nothing.
(30:18):
They've got nothing in theirtoolbox, statin drugs, aspirin,
diabetes drugs, these new drugsthat you know, some of blue tide
and ozempic and things likethat, that they're talking
about, they're all just poisonpills and you're never going to
find happiness in those.
You can have short term success,but then ultimately you'll be
one of these fen people who windup with some kind of damage that
(30:38):
will learn the truth about acouple of years down the road
when they pull these from themarket.
But, again, it's just trying tocheat the system, the way that
we work ultimately eat well,live well, think well, test,
don't guess, evidence basedsupplements, biohacking
strategies, which can be thingslike sauna, red light therapy,
IV, ozone, hyperbaric, a lot ofdifferent things, but just work
with a healthcare professionalthat's very skilled in these
(30:59):
things.
And ultimately in the end, trustmother nature, trust God, trust
our God given abilities with ourbodies.
Our bodies are spectacular.
They are spectacular and we canheal.
We are built to heal always.
James Egidio (31:12):
Absolutely.
And it's such a breath of freshair to speak to a physician and
interview a physician thatdoesn't believe in a lot of
physicians that I've beeninterviewing or the same page as
you are as well.
Again, that book, your book isright here.
It's called the paleocardiologist and it can be found
on Amazon.
I know it was the number onebestseller, correct?
(31:32):
Yeah,
Dr. Jack Wolfson (31:32):
people want to give Amazon money.
Go ahead.
Give Jeff Bezos money so he canbuy up more farmland.
And but you can also actuallyget it from me for free
FreeHeartBook.com.
Freeheartbook.
com is another link and you justpay the shipping and we'll send
that out to you.
The book's 10 years old, but thetenants, in there are all are
true.
The data, of course, has stoodthe test of time.
One place where I've I guessreversed is on coffee.
(31:55):
At the time when I wrote this in2015, I was down on on the use
of coffee, but I've sincechanged my tune on that as well.
Just taking a fresh look at thedata on the health benefits of
coffee, especially when it'sorganic and it's tested from
mold micro toxins.
So that's pretty much the mainthing that I.
Change tune on about, from thatbook, but the website is great
(32:16):
information.
I've got other doctors, who workwith me, a natural heart doctor,
a team of health coaches.
And we got a big mission aheadof us, cardiovascular disease,
number one killer worldwide.
And we aim to actually eliminate
James Egidio (32:29):
that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And what is your take on coffeebefore we sign off?
Yeah, so
Dr. Jack Wolfson (32:34):
actually when you look at coffee it actually
shows that coffee drinkers haveless heart attacks, less
strokes, less atrialfibrillation, less
cardiomyopathy, they have lesscoronary calcification they also
have less dementia and movementdisorders and they also have
less cancer and that's whenyou're drinking garbage stuff.
So if you really drink goodstuff that is organic.
(32:55):
And then this is very criticalas well, James, is to make sure
it's tested for mold mycotoxins.
And I felt so strongly about itand another shameless plug here.
I started my own coffee companycalled Cardiology Coffee, which
is to highlight the benefits ofcoffee on cardiovascular health.
But it is also tested forglyphosate, of which is non
detectable.
(33:15):
And it's also tested formycotoxins, which are non
detectable.
And a lot of times the medicaldoctor is Oh, don't drink
coffee.
Meanwhile, they're drinkingcoffee out of styrofoam cups in
the nurse's station or doctor'slounge.
And but they told you to avoidit.
And if you're out there and youdon't feel well on coffee.
Don't drink it.
But if you like coffee and youlike the way you feel on coffee
(33:37):
then I think it's beneficial toyou.
James Egidio (33:40):
I know, it's funny you mentioned that about,
they'll tell you not to drink itand it's bad for you and they're
drinking it.
It reminds me of the stories Ihear of, the 90 year old guy
who, or 99 year old guy who's,drinking a fifth of scotch every
day and smoking a pack ofcigarettes and still outlives
the guy that's, the jogger andall that.
(34:00):
So I don't know.
Dr. Jack Wolfson (34:01):
Listen, obviously there's not many
examples of that, but they'realways the one outlier to that.
But I think chance chance favorsthose of us who are most
proactive and.
Certainly anybody could look atit and say, you know what?
Come on, I'm not going to do allthis.
I'm not going to eat well, livewell, think well, and test,
don't guess.
And I'm not going to get out ofmy insurance based, model.
(34:23):
And I want to keep drinking andhaving, okay good luck.
Listen, but that's the freedomof it.
You're free to do that.
You're totally free to do that.
But I want to give you myinformation.
So you know that there is a,another way that I believe is
the best way.
And that's what we do.
Thank you.
James Egidio (34:38):
Absolutely.
Amen.
Thank you so much for joining mefor this episode of the medical
truth podcast.
I really appreciate it.
And again, your website isNaturalHeartDoctor.Com, which
I've been posting here at thebottom.
Yes.
Dr. Jack Wolfson (34:50):
Natural heart.
James Egidio (34:52):
I'm sorry.
Natural heart doctor.
Yes.
Dr. Jack Wolfson (34:54):
You're not the first to make who made that but
Maybe it's a marketing issuethat we did, but no, we are
cardiologists, natural heart.
James Egidio (35:01):
Heart doctor.
Yeah.
Naturalheartdoctor.
com.
I'll post that on the website onmedical truth podcast as well.
Thank you so much for joiningme, doc.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right.
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