The Hidden Forces Behind Climate Engineering An Insightful Discussion with Jim Lee

Unlock the mysteries behind the weather patterns that shape our world and the scientific attempts to control them. Investigative journalist Jim Lee joins host James Egidio on a journey through the complex and often misunderstood realm of geoengineering. Together, we dissect the ambitious strategies aimed at local weather control and global climate interventions, from cloud condensation mechanics to solar radiation modification. We confront the historical milestones that have set the stage for today's climate modification discussions, delving into the environmental and societal repercussions of these controversial technologies.

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Intro/Outro (00:01):
Get ready to hear the truth, the whole truth and
nothing but the truth about theUnited States healthcare system
With your host of the MedicalTruth Podcast, James Egidio.

James Egidio (00:18):
Welcome to the Medical Truth Podcast.
My name is James Egidio.
Your host, my guest, is adevoted investigative journalist
reporting the truth aboutgeoengineering, weather
modification and pollution in aneasy to understand and
relatable way.
He testified at the EPA'shearing on aviation pollution in
August of 2015, lectured at EdGriffith's conference Global

(00:41):
Warming an inconvenient lie inDecember of 2016, interviewed
scientists at the AmericanMeteorological Society's 21st
conference on planned andinadvertent weather modification
in 2018, and his research hasbeen referenced on many
prominent websites, includingthe comprehensive Nuclear Test
Ban Treaty Organization,canadian Geophysical Union, mit,

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harvard and the United Nations.
His website, climateviewercom,and climateviewernews feature
thousands of references,timeline events and newspapers
and journals.
You can monitor live weather,satellites, earthquakes, fires
and more on his website in realtime and view maps only found on

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climate viewer maps.
It is a pleasure to have on theMedical Truth Podcast my guest,
mr Jim Lee.
Jim, welcome to the MedicalTruth Podcast, welcome.

Jim Lee (01:40):
Jim, thanks for having me.

James Egidio (01:42):
Absolutely Just for the listeners and viewers of
the Medical Truth Podcast, alittle bit about who you are and
what you do.

Jim Lee (01:51):
I'm a 47-year-old half-white, half-pony male from
Sumter, south Carolina.
I've been married 25 years.
I have a 14-year-old and a7-year-old daughter.
My 14-year-old daughter has anorange belt and makes martial
arts because daddy builds themthat way.
I live in the finestdouble-wide ever paid for by the

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Illuminati and I'm just a happycamper who was a Boy Scout.
I like to do my good turn dailyand because of the birth of my
children, I no longer can sitaround and play video games.
I talk about sciencey, nerdythings and how they affect the
health of everybody on theplanet.

James Egidio (02:29):
So, from what I understand, you're an
investigative journalist andyou're primary focus I noticed
on your website, which isclimateviewercom, has been all
about geoengineering and aboutharps, weather, harps, antennas.
But let's today, in thisparticular episode, talk about
geoengineering and what isgeoengineering?

Jim Lee (02:54):
So geoengineering is a term that gets used
all-encompassing anything thathas to do with weather
manipulation.
By many people it's a poorlyused word.
Some people refer to chemtrailsas geoengineering, but some
people refer to cloud seedingprojects as geoengineering.

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I break it up into threecategories.
There's weather modificationspace weather modification
because, just like weathermodification, there is a thing
called space weather and theintention of ionosphere heaters
and sounding rockets is tomodify space weather.
And then there's geoengineering.

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Geoengineering is different inthat the goal of geoengineering
is the abatement of the hoaxthat is CO2-based global warming
, that the earth is heating upbecause dinosaur farts, because

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dinosaur farts melted methaneand that erupted into the sky.
They believe it killed thedinosaurs because they drilled
some ice up in Antarctica.
They believe that now that'sgoing on today, and this is
based in something called theclathrate gun hypothesis that
methane clathrates, once heatedenough, will vent into the

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atmosphere, causing runawayglobal warming.
That's where the term comesfrom.
Now they've switched to globalboiling because global warming
wasn't scary enough.
But they most often use thegeneric term climate change,
which is dumb, because theclimate has always changed, it
always will change, it willnever stop changing.

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So, to be real, geoengineeringis the attempt by a man to stop
the climate from changing, whichis monumentally stupid.
The term geoengineering wasfirst used in 1977 by a man
named Cesar A Marchetti and hespecifically was talking about

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CO2 sequestration or CO2 carboncapture, the idea of there's too
much CO2 in the atmosphere, wecan suck it out of the
atmosphere, pump it into theground, capture it somehow and
just remove it from theatmosphere.
But in 1991, mount Pinatubo'seruption was observed by a

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scientist to cool the planet andthis made them all go wait a
minute.
When Mount Pinatubo erupted, itput a lot of sulfur into the
stratosphere and because of thissulfur in the stratosphere and
the cooling that followed, threeI'm going to say Dr Evils at

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Lawrence Livermore National Labdecided to write a paper about
it, and their names were EdwardTeller, lowell Wood and Roderick
Hyde.
Lowell Wood is known by hisbest friends as Dr Evils.
He literally is a weaponier.
That's what he does.
Edward Teller and Venerent ofthe Hydrogen Bomb these are the

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guys.
So they came up with the idea ofstratospheric aerosol injection
or solar radiation management.
This is if you breakgeoengineering into two main
categories.
There is sucking CO2 out of theair or ground based mostly.

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There's also stuff like biocharbags.
We're not going to get into allthat Too much for one night.
But the other side is solarradiation management.
Now, solar radiation managementgets confused too, because a
lot of people think that it onlymeans one thing.
It also has things like microbubbles in the ocean, marine

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cloud brightening, the idea ofspraying sea salt in the clouds
to make them whiter and brighterso they reflect sunlight.
Painting rooftops white toreflect sunlight, to negate the
heat, the urban heat islandeffect.
So there's many different typesof solar geoengineering, which
is just the catch all phrase.

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But at the beginning it wascalled geoengineering.
Then they said we're notactually engineering the geo.
Geo means earth.
Let's call it climateengineering.
So it got renamed.
Good example the DCgeoengineering group, washington
DC renamed itself to the Forumfor Climate Engineering

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Assessment, fcea.
So this was a big change circa,say, 2012.
And then again in 2016-ish,they renamed it again.
Because engineering is bad.
Why?
Because cars are engineered andcars break down.
We don't want to break theatmosphere.

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So to frame it perceptionmanagement wise, mind control
wise.
That's what framing is justusing words for mind control
purposes.
Let's not call it climateengineering, let's call it
climate intervention.
So if you look up these termsgeoengineering, climate
engineering, climateintervention you will find

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they're all about the same thing.
They even try to take it a stepfurther and call it climate
restoration.
That was a bridge too far anddespite all their attempts to
rebrand it, we're right back towhere we started with Harvard's
solar geoengineering program.
So geoengineering has stood thetest of time.

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That word has rode the storm,and it is the intent.
What we're really focusing ontonight, I'm assuming, is the
intentional spraying ofchemicals in the stratosphere to
mimic what volcanoes do,naturally.
The problem is that whenvolcanoes do what they do, there

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are consequences, and thoseconsequences can be very severe,
like changing rainfall patternsworldwide.
During certain large eruptions,the Amazon basin almost dried
up.
That's how much it can changethe rainfall.
So this leads to the wholegeoengineering governance side

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of things.
Who's in charge of this?
Who's hands on the thermometer?
Who makes the decisions?
Because if geoengineeringsetting the temperature of the
earth is to be decided by agroup of individuals, who would
you trust, james?

James Egidio (09:43):
No one.

Jim Lee (09:45):
That's the only sane answer.
I don't trust I have never meta politician.
I trust I've never met ascientist who, if I told him,
hey, man, I know your heart's inthe right place, pick seven
other scientists and you guysfigure it out.
I trust that you'll make theright decision.
That got us the atom bomb, thatgot us Wuhan.

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I am not for crats and to beclear when I say this
technocracy was a movementfounded in the 1930s with the
goal of creating a one worldgovernment that is run by the
science, by my powers flickeringin my house, Thank God for good

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.
Battery backups right that theywere.
Unelected bureaucrats using thescientific method would rule
the entire world, based on amonetary system based in energy,
carbon taxes, carbon credits,and with full authority to
monitor everything.
Sensors everywhere, masssurveillance All of that is what

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we see with the climate agenda,with the health agenda.
Don't get me started on who,because who doesn't care about
you?
The further government getsaway from my house, the less it
cares about me, and that'salways been my sense.
I'm a rugged individualist.
I'm neither.
I'm not a party affiliate.

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I don't like politicians, eventhe ones.
I wouldn't trust them to holdmy child.

James Egidio (11:20):
Right, I agree.
I say that a lot in a lot ofpodcasts, especially the medical
truth podcast, is I try to keepthe politics out of this as
much as I can.

Jim Lee (11:33):
It only makes sense.

James Egidio (11:34):
It does and you mentioned we mentioned four of
them main types ofgeoengineering.
Did you mention, I think, twoso far, or was it four, Because
I have this from your website.

Jim Lee (11:46):
Yeah, that pretty much covers it.
So the two main categories aresolar radiation management at
the top, and they talk aboutreflective aerosols, that's
stratospheric aerosol injection,clouds eating specifically here
they're talking about marinecloud brightening.
What's number three?
I can't read that.
Reflective, that's reflective.

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Those are satellites in spacereflecting things.
The World Economic Forum, youcan't make this up.

James Egidio (12:13):
I want to talk about that, but before you go
into that, I still want to coverthese four types of
geoengineering, because I alsohave the players and the web
that's involved with this wholething that you did a lot of
research on.
So, we'll start with what wegot here now.

Jim Lee (12:30):
Yeah, I'm on number three right now.
So number one can be thechemtrails over your house, the
plane emissions, serous clouds,artificial clouds made by planes
, or direct injection ofchemicals by specially designed
planes for the purpose ofgeoengineering, solar radiation
management, stratosphericaerosol injection.

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Number two could be marinecloud brightening or serous
cloud thinning, because that isalso known as serous cloud
seeding.
It's the idea of melting thosechemtrails, or plane farts or
serous clouds away at night.
Number three the World EconomicForum literally made a TikTok
video about an MIT researcherwho talked about putting a

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graphene sail at the Lagrangepoint two, between the sun and
the earth to block incomingsolar radiation from space.
So literally a solar sail likea contact lens for the eyeball,
that is, the earth between thesun and the earth, to be out
there.
That's the idea of number three, or forest forestation as

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opposed to deforestation,because guess what?
Co2 trees love it and they suckit and they put it in the
ground and they turn it intooxygen.
By the way, they also makerainfall, they make their own
clouds.
That's why it's called a rainforest, because they actually
produce their own cloud seeds.
Three is direct air capture.

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Co2 capture from air plusstorage, that's carbon
sequestration is another termfor it, same with number two,
co2 capture from fossil fuelsplus storage.
There's different versions ofthat.
Some are called like biochar orBEX, and then there's direct
air capture, dac, and number one, ocean iron fertilization.

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Russ George actually did this.
He was the first official roguegeo engineer.
This was called the Hida SalmonRestoration Project and Russ
George actually contacted him onTwitter and we had a back and
forth great discussion.
He explained that basicallycommercial fishing around the

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Hida is the island.
Commercial fishing boatsbasically had driven away all
the fish for the localinhabitants.
So his purpose in dumping ironfilings into the ocean was that
they produce algae blooms andthose algae blooms would bring
fish back to the island.

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That was his claimed purpose ofdoing it.
But at the same time, algalblooms from iron fertilization
is a geo engineering technique,because algae sucks up CO2 and
then hardens and calcifies andfalls down to the bottom of the
ocean.
So it's the same idea as carboncapture and sequestration.

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So they claim that he was roguegeo engineering and to date
he's the only one that I knowthat's ever done this.
But it was a really big to doand of course, nothing ever
happened to him.
Because, even though geoengineering is illegal, they'll
say, oh, he was a bad guy fordoing it.
But let's study it now andfigure out how we could possibly

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use this for global warmingabatement.

James Egidio (15:47):
Yeah, because you hear a lot of sentiment about
chemtrails and geo engineeringespecially, and I think the
first thing that comes to mindto people is chemtrails.
Right With that being said,what is the difference between
chemtrails and con trails?

Jim Lee (16:08):
Mostly nothing.
To be quite honest, if that ishappening in the troposphere,
there it's a chemtrail, a contrail, a plain fart, whatever
you want to call it.
Once it fans out and blocks thesky, it is no longer either.

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It is a cirrus cloud.
This is the part that's lost oneverybody, that once ice
crystals, which are not justcondensation, so the term
contrail is counterfactional.
They'll say it's just watercondensation, nothing to see

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here.
Now the answer you, thequestion you want to ask back to
them when they say that iscondensating on what?
And it goes back to cloudseeding.
It's the same idea as cloudseeding.
Every cloud needs a seed.
In order for a cloud to form,there must be an aerosol, some

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speck of dust.
It's called a cloudcondensation nuclei.
Without that speck of dust thewater has nothing to stick to
and without ionization or staticelectricity, usually in the
form of either chemi ions whichare generated by friction and
static from the back of anengine, or galactic cosmic rays

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which pour in from outer space.
That's how natural clouds areformed, with galactic cosmic
rays or just friction fromupheaval and storm fronts, all
that sort of thing.
You need these three things tomake a cloud, water vapor, some
kind of energy to make themstick to the dust, or there are

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many different forms of cloudseed, bacteria, molds, alkali
metals.
Typically, aluminum is the mostmetal in sand all over the earth
.
More aluminum blows out of thefreaking Sahara desert than
probably will ever come out ofplanes.
That's just things that peopledon't take into account when the

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space shuttle launch.
You remember the space shuttlewhen the solid rocket boosters a
single solid rocket boosterproduced 350 million tons of
aluminum oxide per launch.
Wow, every time they wouldlaunch the space shuttle there's

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two solid rocket boosters.
Some of you watching this maynot be old enough to remember
the space shuttle.
Go look it up on YouTube.
But it had two white rockets onthe side and a big fuel tank in
the middle.
Those two solid rocket boosterscombined produced was at 700
million tons of sulfur, ofaluminum oxide and sulfuric acid

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, so much so that it would meltthe concrete down at my drawing
a blank.
God, I've been there twice Cape.

James Egidio (19:08):
Canaveral.

Jim Lee (19:08):
Cape Canaveral.
I went there twice when I wasan Air Force Junior ROTC.

James Egidio (19:13):
Yeah, it's down the street from me, by the way.
Cool Pretty much.
Not literally, but yeah, it'slike 20, 30 miles.

Jim Lee (19:19):
Go ask the neighbors down there that the acid rain
from these launches wouldliterally eat the paint off of
cars in neighborhood.
It would melt the concrete atthe launch pads.
So when you're talking aboutaluminum in the atmosphere, if
you're not thinking aboutrockets, rocket launches, you're

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not considering a large sourceof it.
But back to just, let's focuson just the planes.
Your question is thisgeoengineering.
By definition, the intent ofgeoengineering never was in the
troposphere.
It was in the stratosphere fora reason because chemicals in

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the troposphere tend to have aresidence time of around, let's
say, two weeks to two to fourmonths at the maximum.
Okay, because it's veryturbulent.
Everything's getting mixedaround.
This troposphere is where welive, where we breathe, where
all the weather you've everexperienced is that stuff tends

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to fall rapidly and rain out.
Above that is the stratosphere.
The dividing line between thestratosphere and the troposphere
is called the tropopause.
Now, above the tropopause, itsuddenly starts to get warmer
really quickly and theatmosphere is much more stable,

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meaning any of the chemicalsthat are lofted into the
stratosphere.
They stay there longer.
This is called their residencetime.
So chemicals in the app and thestratosphere, depending on
their size, can have a residencetime from two to four years.

James Egidio (21:08):
Wow.

Jim Lee (21:09):
So when we see planes making clouds yes, that is, by
definition, solar radiationmanagement it could be argued
that it was just pollution uptill recently, because there's
always been planes making cloudsthat block out the sun.
I have newspapers from 1958,the city of Palm Springs in

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California going toe to toe withthe Air Force and the Air Force
telling them look, either livewith the trails or move the city
of Palm Springs, because you'reat the intersection of the West
Coast.
This is where all planes flythrough.
You're gonna have the skyblocked out with trails.
And that was 1958.
1970, the state of Illinois, newJersey, sued over smoke

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pollution of the sky.
Air quotes Chemtrails.
1970.
They sued the airline industry.
Secretary of Transportation,james A Vulp, actually came in
to mediate the argument and tryto settle it out of court.
Airline industry decided toredesign their combustors to cut
down on particulate emissionsthat are cloud seeds that create

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clouds.
So this has been a problemforever, since planes started
flying the problem.
The reason why it's beenexacerbated now is because
there's been this steady buildupof chemicals in the
stratosphere that are slowlymaking their way back down to
Earth.
And when we're burning 15million barrels of jet fuel per

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day just in America, whenthere's 130 plus thousand
flights per day worldwide.
We're getting to the pointwhere what the geo engineers
were asking for it's alreadyhappening that planes are flying
above the tropopause.
They are dumping their theirnanoparticles of metals and

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black carbon, graphene, sulfuricacid.
It is stratospheric sulfurinjection.
It is stratospheric aerosolinjection.
The planes burning fuel isputting nanoparticles of metal
into the stratosphere, which iswhitening the sky.
The purpose of geoengineeringall along was to whiten the sky,

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to make it more reflective, theloft reflective particles into
the stratosphere, to cut down onincoming solar radiation.
The problem is, yes, whenplanes make clouds, that does
cool the planet.
That does qualify asgeoengineering, as solar
radiation management.

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The problem that they found outin 2001 was that when they
grounded all flights for threeor four days, the dudes down at
Langley Research Center werelike wait a minute.
The diurnal temperature rangegreatly widened during this
period, meaning if it was 70degrees during the day, and it

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normally gets down to 50 degreesat night, during this time it
got down to 40 degrees at nightA 10 degree difference.
So they said something's goingon here, and what was going on
was those clouds were making ablanket overhead so that when
the radiation came in and theywent to go back out, it got
trapped.
It is the greenhouse.

James Egidio (24:32):
Yeah.

Jim Lee (24:32):
There's no such thing as a greenhouse gas.
There are only greenhouses.
Anybody who has a clear plasticor glass greenhouse knows this.

James Egidio (24:41):
Yeah, jim, how do you explain, for instance, like
in this photo, the?
I noticed, like during COVID,when things were just came to an
abrupt standstill Very fewflights.
I was in Vegas at the time,living there, and I would notice
, on a very clear day, where youwould get these trails.

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That would come from, say, thehorizon of, let's say, the
southwest part of the valley,where the mountains are, and
they would just come right from,almost like from the right,
over the horizon of the mountain, across the valley, and you'd
see two or three patterns ofthick, like stream of plume of

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smoke or a trail.
I called it a chem trail.
And then and this was abeautiful day, it was real clear
out and then all of a sudden itwould just dissipate and the
day would turn into a real balmy, almost like a depressing day,
like again, that was likeblocking the Sun out.
And then I've noticed, likewhere planes just flew and

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they're supposed to be, I wouldthink, condensation trails, and
they dissipate within seconds.
So what's the differencebetween those two?

Jim Lee (25:53):
So you to get real sciencey on you, it's about ice
super saturated regions.

James Egidio (26:01):
Yeah, but it was like a warm day, it was a spring
day.

Jim Lee (26:04):
So there are these things called radiosons and
they're basically weather guys.
They attach a balloon into alittle radio transmitter which
samples the temperature and therelative humidity and the dew
point depression and all thesethings.
They have this chart that showsas it gains altitude and where

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the temperature comes withinabout four to five degrees of
the dew point depression.
That is called an ice supersaturated region.
That is an area high in the sky, typically 24,000 to 40,000
feet.
So if you see a plane making achem trail at 12,000 feet, that

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is not natural.
So it's incumbent on you to doyour a little bit of flight
tracking, do some research to beable to tell at what altitude
am I seeing this plane?
What are the currentatmospheric conditions?
Does it apply to Appleman'schart?
Appleman, the Appleman chart'sbeen around since World War II.
I'm good friends with a guynamed Jeff.

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He's a meteorologist in theNavy and one of his jobs was
literally to throw radiosons offof an aircraft carrier and tell
yo, maverick, when you'reflying the F-14 Tomcat back to
the deck, avoid this area,because you're gonna leave a
contrail in the sky and that'sgonna point the enemy right back

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to us.
To date, you can actuallysearch this Google AI working
with American Airlines to avoidcontrail formation.
So they've come to this pointnow where this pollution problem
, which has been around forever,they're trying to take
advantage of it.
When I interviewed the head ofthe FAA's Aviation Climate

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Change Research Initiative, whois in charge of the biofuels for
contrail control His name is DrRangasai Halthory I asked him,
when Ulrich Schumann fromGermany's DLR that's like their
NASA was speaking at the 2010ICA International Civil Aviation
Organization colloquium onaviation climate change, dr

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Rangasai Halthory, when he saidwe want less warming, more
cooling, contrails, predictablefor operational planning.
What do you think he meant bythat?
His response was basically wewould like to have more contrail
induced cirrus clouds by dayand none by night.

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I'm gonna point directly at thewords like to, and go from me
to you.
The Federal AviationAdministration has a policy in
place to figure out how to makemore clouds by day and none by

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night.
Why?
Because geoengineering, becausethey cool during the day and
they trap heat at night.
So if you look at, presidentBiden came out with this solar
radiation modification.
At least it came out of theWhite House.
I'm sure it didn't come out ofhis brain.
So the solar radiationmodification report that came

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out of the White House basicallyObama acolytes who are
currently working holding Joe uplike weekend at Bernies and
they said in there specificallythree things.
They wanted to study Solarradiation modification, which is
a deviation from management,which they've called it forever.
They just called itmodification.
I actually approve because Ibelieve weather modification,

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space weather modification,solar radiation modification
works for me, but it's stillit's a deviation, pointing that
out because I'm big on semantics.
Yeah, so they want to study SRM.
They want to study MCB, marineCloud Brightening, and CCT,
cirrus Cloud Thinning.

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Wait a minute now Let me getthis straight.
The dude from the FAA just saidwe don't want clouds at night.
Ulrich Lohmann and Blaz I justgot it backwards Blaz Gasperini,
not glass Blaz, glass Can't getit out of my head.

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No, blaz, blaz Gasperini.
They wrote a paper called aCirrus Cloud Climate Dial.
You can look this up, go toscholargooglecom and you can
find it A Cirrus Cloud ClimateDial, meaning a way to control
the temperature of the planet,geoengineering.

James Egidio (30:42):
Right.

Jim Lee (30:43):
Cirrus Cloud.
That's what the chemtrails andcontrails turn into.
I'm right.
Okay, for those who areconcerned, I'm right, I'm always
right, get used to it.
Cirrus Cloud Thinning they saidthat this could be achieved by
seeding Cirrus Clouds in highlatitude, winters and nighttime

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seeding.
Now, that is highlycoincidental.
It's more than highlycoincidental.
There are no coincidences.
This is a concerted effort totake what has been, up to this
point, a pollution problem, avisual pollution problem, the
most visual climate change today.

(31:27):
Because every single day yourweather is being modified.
It is geoengineering.
It is more so, weathermodification, because why?
What does the weather guy sayevery day?
It's gonna be partly cloudytoday, and what such-and-such
temperature?
That's weather.
So planes change the weatherevery single day and they

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geoengineer.
They change the temperature ofthe planet.
I'm not gonna say to how it,what degree, because I really
don't care.
What I care about is thepoisonous pollution that's
coming out of the tailpipe, thevisual effect on the sky and my
ability to absorb vitamin D, thechemical effects on atmospheric

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conditions, rainfall patternswe could go on listing.
Alan Robach is a geoengineerand he literally came up with 25
reasons we should notgeoengineer.

James Egidio (32:27):
Yeah, yeah, I was gonna be my next question what
chemicals are found in thesechemtrails?

Jim Lee (32:33):
If you go to climateviewercom, slash Cirrus
Clouds Matter.
I actually I'm a graphicsartist.
Don't know if you know thatabout me.
I've been an artist since I gotmy first art scholarship when I
was in the fifth grade Thankyou very much.
And I made a.
I was like what's the best wayto visualize this?
I don't want to make it scary.
Periodic table Right, Yay,let's do a periodic table.

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So I got a periodic table and Iliterally just color coded all
of the metals found in jetexhaust.
And this comes from a study.
I'm going to pull it up realquick If you don't mind.

James Egidio (33:08):
Not at all.

Jim Lee (33:08):
Because I have everything bookmarked within two
clicks away Going toclimateviewercom, click on site
map and then I go to artificialclouds and right there at the
top it says the detectedmetallic particles compounds
were all internally mixed withsoot particles, so soot is black

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carbon.
That is the cloud seed.
So whenever they saycondensation trails, it's water
condensating on soot, on blackcarbon.
This is important Because we'regoing to flip the script.
If you go, we start talkingabout military in a little while
.
We're going to talk aboutcarbon.
Black is manufactured, blackcarbon is burnt stuff.
So the detected metalliccompounds were internally mixed

(33:56):
with soot particles, so theyfound all of these metals inside
the soot.
The most abundant metals in jetexhaust were chromium, iron,
molybdenum, sodium, calcium,aluminum.
Also found were vanadium,barium, cobalt, copper, nickel,
lead, magnesium, manganese,silicon, titanium and zirconium.

(34:18):
And this is from a study in2016 called Chemical
Characterization ofFreshly-Emitted Particulate
Matter from Aircraft ExhaustUsing Single Particle Mass
Spectrometry.
I have an identical paper fromthe United States Air Force
Research Lab, which found theexact same metals inside the jet

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fuel, and I have two otherpapers that find very similar
results.
Finally, the University ofFinland I believe it was did a
study where they actually flewthrough cirrus clouds that were
just hanging around.
75% of the cirrus clouds seedsthe seeds inside of cirrus

(35:03):
clouds were man made metals.
So we could literally at thispoint, just classify stop
calling them chemtrails, stopcalling them contrails and just
say metal clouds Not like actualnanoparticulate metal clouds,
because these metals have acooling effect.
They're the same thing as a heatsink.

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They work just like a heat sink.
I worked on car stereos.
I've seen a heat sink on anamplifier.
They exchange heat rapidly, soto go from a very high engine to
suddenly freezing liquid.
That's where the metals play arole.
Also, in a separate paper theytook it a step further and they

(35:50):
said that the graph, the blackcarbon particles that contain
all these metals, were laminatedin graphene.
So the external surface of thesoot particulate is graphene and
on top of that is the sulfurdioxide which, when mixed with
water, it goes from SO2 to H2SO4.

(36:14):
That's sulfuric acid.

James Egidio (36:17):
Sulfuric acid yeah , a-a.

Jim Lee (36:19):
Acid rain, yeah, something nobody talks about
anymore.
So if the argument that it's achemical trail, it is.
It's a trail of freakingchemicals.
Damn, near everything in theplanet is a chemical.
It is a chemical trail.
Condensation trail Also true.
It is water, because justburning fuels, even the cleanest

(36:43):
fuel, if you burn hydrogen theyjust did a hydrogen-based
flight last year Burning buthydrogen, guess what?
You're going to make?
Water If you go to your car andyou will find water dripping
out of the tailpipe, becausethat is a natural component of
combustion.
So this all mixes together tobe condensating on the

(37:06):
particulate matter that's leftover from improper, not fully
burnt fuel and some of thesechemicals.
They'll withstand thetemperature of a burning jet
engine.
That's just the nature of thebeast.
You have to look at it likethat.
The dangers of any one of thesemetals?
I don't have to part you onthat.

(37:28):
What's the dangers of breathingnanoparticles of aluminum?
Forget it.
Calcium is actually one of thelargest ones.
In fact, in the geoengineeringworld, they originally started
with sulfur because they wantedto mimic.
Oh, before I leave that page,underneath it, on the same page,

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jet exhaust in the stratosphere.
The Indian space organizationfound evidence of such particles
black carbon particles existingup to 18 kilometers in the
stratosphere, and there were10,000 per cubic centimeter.
Wow 10,000 black carbonparticles per cubic centimeter.

(38:13):
You think about how big the skyis and then how much bigger it
is when you get up to 40,000feet, because it's just like the
layers of an onion.
It's smaller in the middle baby, so as you go up in the sky
it's going to get bigger.
For it to be that concentratedat that altitude, at 18
kilometers in the sky, is insane.

(38:34):
And then you think about allthe metals that are in each one
of those 10,000 particles ofblack carbon.
Given the shape and location ofthese particles, the Indian
space organization argued itcould only derive from emissions
from aviation fuel.
Why?
Because black carbon from jetshas a unique spherical shape to

(38:57):
it, as opposed to carbon black,which has it's called a
centiform.
It's a grape-like structure.
So they clearly can recognizespherical black carbon from jet
exhaust.
We know where this came fromand it's in the stratosphere.
So the spin lately because theyalways got to make good

(39:19):
propaganda.
The scientists have been tryingto spin this off lately and
you'll see this if you want toGoogle it space, junk, metal and
stratosphere.
Just put those terms in thereSpace, junk, metal and
atmosphere.
They're trying to blame thebuildup of metals in the
stratosphere from space junk,falling back and re-entering the

(39:40):
atmosphere and burning up as ifone or two tin cans a month at
the most, compared to 130,000flights per day.
That it's space junk, guys.
It's not the chemtrails.
Nothing to see here.
Calm down, it's just it's mindblowing.

James Egidio (40:03):
Yeah, it's interesting because you say
130,000 flights per day, but I,to me, it's been more noticeable
and it's more obvious, andespecially in that pattern,
there isn't probably that manymore flights going out now that
are making a difference tocreate these chemtrails that

(40:26):
there were, let's say, fiveyears ago, 10 years ago.
It just seems like it's.
And then what concerns?
What's really concerning arethe people that are involved
with this.
You get a guy like John Brennanright here.
I'm going to just play thisvideo.

Video (40:39):
Example is the array of technologies, often referred to
collectively as geoengineering,that potentially could help
reverse the warming effects ofglobal climate change.
One that has gained my personalattention is stratospheric
aerosol injection, or SAI, amethod of seeding the
stratosphere with particles thatcan help reflect the sun's heat
in much the same way thatvolcanic eruptions do.

(41:04):
An SAI program could limitglobal temperature increases,
reducing some risks associatedwith higher temperatures and
providing the world economyadditional time to transition
from fossil fuels.
This process is also relativelyinexpensive the National
Research Council estimates thata fully deployed SAI program
would cost about $10 billionyearly.

(41:24):
As promising as it may be,moving forward on SAI would also
raise a number of challengesfor our government and for the
international community.
On the technical side,greenhouse gas emission
reductions would still have toaccompany SAI to address other
climate change effects, such asocean acidification, because SAI
alone would not removegreenhouse gases from the

(41:46):
atmosphere.
On the geopolitical side, thetechnology's potential to alter
weather patterns and benefitcertain regions of the world at
the expense of other regionscould trigger sharp opposition
by some nations.
Others might seize on SAI'sbenefits and back away from
their commitment to carbondioxide reductions and, as with

(42:08):
other breakthrough technologies,global norms and standards are
lacking to guide the deploymentand implementation of SAI and
other geoengineering initiatives.

Jim Lee (42:18):
Also known as moral hazard.

James Egidio (42:20):
Yes, here's the same guy, the Deep State
dumpster diver, making hisappearance in front of these
people here and pontificatingabout the wonderful benefits of
geoengineering.

Jim Lee (42:32):
And here's a good question, while warning at the
same time.
Oh, by the way, geoengineeringcould lead to World War III.
Google, that Is that true?
There have been numerous peerreviewed and just journalists
saying because it is a violationof the Environmental

(42:52):
Modification Convention, whichis a weather warfare ban of 1978
, which was signed because ofthe damn CIA Right, the CIA and
Operation Popeye, henryKissinger, the CIA, the US Air
Force and the US Navy with WC130s and RF4, um Phantoms were

(43:16):
basically cloud seeding the HoChi Minh Trail to try to make it
impassable for the Viet Congusing silver iodide and lead
iodide.
That was, by definition, weatherwarfare over Vietnam and Laos.
Now, when Jack Anderson madethis public, seymour Hirsch

(43:37):
wrote it in the New York Times.
Seymour Hirsch is also the guywho blew the whistle on the
story about the Nord Streampipeline and how we probably
blew it up.
He was completely full of crapnowadays but back whenever he
wrote about weather warfare, itliterally changed the world
overnight.
The CIA had been able to getaway with this.

(43:59):
There were three congressionalhearings.
The secretary of defense saidthat he was not even aware that
it was going on.
Because Henry Kissinger,because the CIA, because top
secret.
They also were doing ProjectNile Blue simultaneously, where
they were creating the exactopposite.
They were creating droughtusing cloud seeding Right.

(44:22):
Their intention was to killCastro's sugar crops by cloud
seeding in the Gulf of Mexicobefore clouds could reach the
Cuban island and to dry it up,and that was their entire
purpose.
So it is of no surprise to mewhatsoever that the CIA would be
once again talking abouttinkering with the weather, let

(44:45):
alone on a global scale, letalone that the Iranians had.
The Brigadier General from Iransaid that Israel and other
surrounding countries werestealing Iran's clouds.
He said this in 2018.
In 2010 and 2011, presidentMahmoud Ahmadinejad from Iran

(45:09):
said that Europe was stealingIran's rain.
So the idea that weatherwarfare even though banned in
1978, it couldn't possibly begoing on today is a farce
because there is no way to catchsomebody doing it.
So that's why the little evilgrin just in the corner of his

(45:31):
mouth you have to watch it verycarefully when he says could
trigger geopolitical problems.
We strutting that out.

James Egidio (45:39):
It's just really interesting that you have these,
the people that are involvedwith all this, like you have
Brennan now right, you also onyour website, indicated this web
and the global network of solargeoengineering funding, and of
course, Bill Gates is in there.
And there he again.
He pops up with geoengineeringwhat the vaccines?

(45:59):
So this guy's got his hands oneverything.
He's even got his hands in tech, which is a company where they
have mosquitoes that aregenetically modified, mosquitoes
that inject.

Jim Lee (46:10):
And buying farmland for to grow jet fuel biofuels.
Is that what that's for?

James Egidio (46:16):
That's one of the reasons.
That's one of the reasons.
So the intentions for thesepeople are not good for we, the
people, the populace.

Jim Lee (46:24):
So when you look at that chart and you go children's
investment fund and thenthere's FCA is right there, by
Rasmussen, is FCA.
I was talking about themearlier.
They're formed for climateengineering assessment, open
philanthropy.
Harvard solar geoengineeringresearch program is right at the
center of all of those peoplewho are involved.
That's where David Keith'sscope X program is being tested.

(46:48):
It's being funded in part byBill Gates.
Right up the road from that isGates ventures, that's venture
capital LLC.
They're the ones who inventedwhat was called the Stratto
shield.
Conveniently.
David Keith's program is calledscope X.
The vehicle is called theStratto cruiser and this is
what's called Pfizer.
And right there next to Gatesventures is Pfizer.

(47:12):
That's the fund for innovativeclimate engineering research.
That is a honeypot of moneythat Bill Gates put together
directly for funding authors towrite and research about
geoengineering.
The gatekeepers of Bill Gatespurse are David Keith and Ken

(47:36):
Caldera.
They're I don't know if theystill are today, but they were
at the time.
It even shows right up there attop Sources David Keith funding
solar geoengineering for 2008.
The guys got his hands ineverything and David Keith was
very clear about it.
He says if sitting across fromAlan Robach, the guy with 25

(47:57):
reasons why we shouldn't do it.
He says if we were to do what Ithink we should do, put a
million tons a year of sulfurinto the stratosphere.
I admit that will kill manytens of thousands of people, but
it's our hope that more peoplewould be saved than would be
killed.
It's the same logic that, roger, that Robert Oppenheimer had,

(48:23):
and most people haven't read,heard the entire transcript,
heard the entire interview.
They've only heard the I ambecome death and destroy her
world.
So they didn't hear.
At the beginning of thatinterview was Oppenheimer said
we were sitting around and thescientists and we came together
and we said this war is justhorrible and it was our belief

(48:46):
that building the bomb wouldsave more lives than would be
lost if we didn't.
It's that same kind of logicthat, even though we know what
we're doing will kill people,we're going to justify it
because global warming is moredangerous than creating nuclear

(49:10):
winter, which is officially whatthey're trying to do.
I did a little number search foryou just to put this into
perspective 2004, approximately23.8 million flights in 2004.
2019, 39.8 million, and thecharges goes up as it goes.

(49:35):
Just between 2004 and 2019, wehave 16 million additional
flights per year in that shortspan.
Now, if you followed this chartout and you went back to 1996,

(49:56):
when the word chemtrails, 1997,when the word chemtrails
officially hit the internet,we'd be down around like 16,
maybe 18 million flights peryear.
These are the types of thingsthat people don't take into
account.
They're like this, justmagically popped up out of
nowhere.
No, it's always been here.

(50:18):
It's just going to get worse.
In fact, their projections lookthis one up bbccom telescopes
will be worthless by 2050.
At this rate, if flightscontinue to grow annually at the

(50:38):
rate they are right now, by2050 there will be no stars.
You will not be able to seethem.
That's the kind of stuff thatmade me Extremely passionate
about putting an end togeoengineering in any form that
has to do with our sky, becausethis is a deal breaker.

(51:01):
This would give technocrats theability to choose life and
death anywhere in the world.
As Brennan said, there will bewinners and there will be losers
, guess what generally speaking,in that same chart you just
showed before about the funding,one of the things in there is
called GeoMip.
That's the geoengineering modelintercomparison project.

(51:23):
Geomip is a come is like theIPCC.
It's right down there at thebottom by National Science
Foundation, cornell ClimateEngineering, national Science
Foundation, geomip.
Geomip is like the IPCC, wherethey take all of these different
computer models and they putthem together and Then they come

(51:45):
up with the best guess scenarioof what geoengineering would do
to our world.
And in almost all of these BenKravitz is a huge player in
these studies on, specificallyas a result, in reference to
rainfall patterns, that inalmost all of them the northern

(52:07):
hemisphere gets wetter and thesouthern hemisphere gets drier.
So let me translate this foryou Lots of dead brown people,
lots of wet white people.
You cannot put it any other way.
That's what generally happensin geoengineering and volcanic

(52:29):
eruptions.
That's why at the center ofthis chart is SRMGI Solar
radiation management governanceinitiative.
The governance part is decidingwho gets to govern, who pulls
the trigger, when, where and why.

James Egidio (52:50):
Yeah, so what is the end goal of this?
What's the what's the goal andobjective of all this?
Because obviously, if Gates isinvolved in Brennan's involved
and all these people areinvolved, it can't be good right
.

Jim Lee (53:07):
Right, there is open society foundation, that's
George Soros.
The list goes on.
Soros was talking about SirDavid, so and so, who said he
had a great geoengineering ideato stop Arctic air from mixing
with our air, and Listening tohim speak at a time was like
listening to a Joe Biden speech.
It was just like he's with thewith the it's.
So they did geoengineering withthe.
I do.

(53:29):
I had never heard actually callme ignorant, like I don't let
you know, heard about GeorgeSoros.
I never actually went out andlooked for a thing till he said
something about geoengineering.
I was like alright, I got toactually hear this with my own
ears and I found the originalvideo of him saying it.
At the time he said it andplayed it on my channel.
We were all just sitting there.

(53:50):
This is the boogie man.
Every year, we were all just inthere.
This is the boogie manEverybody's talking about.
Turns out, his son is moreclaims to be more of a political
, more of a political activistthan his dad ever was.
I imagine him throwing money atgeoengineering as we're talking
right now.

(54:11):
Oh yeah.

James Egidio (54:12):
He's got two sons, alex and I.
Can't remember the other one'sname, but he's got 150.
Soros has 150 nonprofits and alot of them have to do with part
of it.
I know the open society has todo with illegal immigration.
They're just bringing inillegals by the droves because
these people they're coming inwith cell phones.
Their bellies are full.
They got all kinds of designergear on.

(54:34):
These people are not coming inby walking here and that clean.
If you're walking the andcrossing the border for days,
you're going to be prettyhaggard.

Jim Lee (54:45):
It's all part of the technocrat agenda.
One of the, the stated purposes, the, the, the.
The arc of this is that theywent from being the technocracy
movement of the third 1930s tothe New world Federalists in the
1960s, 70s, 80s, and theyliterally said Universal

(55:10):
disarmament by law.
Only the United Nations wouldhave weapons right no borders,
and the list goes on.
If you look at the charter thatthe technocrats laid out, it's
everything everybody'scomplaining about all the time.
And then when they're surprisedwhen they realize, oh wait,

(55:34):
while we're calling it the worldeconomic forum or Davos, or the
IPCC or the WHO, they're all inon the same there.
As George Carlin put it, it's abig club and you ain't in it
and they're called the techtechnocracy is their modus
operandi.

(55:54):
Yeah so as long as you you missthat part, nothing else makes
sense.
But once you understand thatpart that in order to control
all of the people through asingle portal, it's easier if
you dissolve national borders,if you dissolve national
sovereignty, then you can forceeverything down people's throats

(56:17):
like they did during thelockdowns.
And now they're talking aboutclimate Pandemics.
Have you heard this one?
Yeah, oh, absolutely.
That climate change is going tobring the human Insect
interface closer together andthat Crimean hemorrhagic fever
is going to be pushed into humanpopulations Because climate

(56:41):
change, because migration ofinsects and disease factors.
So there's all thisconversation now of climate
pandemics and climate lockdownsand all of this.
In my personal opinion, if youwant to get to the big agenda of
this, you have these climateclocks which are counting down

(57:02):
to 2029.
You have agenda 2030 already inplace.
You have the COP 21 Parisclimate accords, which don't
really say to stop globalwarming.
They say limit global warmingto 1.5 degrees Celsius.
Interestingly enough, that'sthe same number that they were

(57:25):
shooting for back in the early1900s when they said we want to
melt the North Pole to get tothe oil and gas.
How much would we need to raisethe temperature of the planet
in order to get to the oil andgas in the Arctic.
1.5 degrees Celsius, so forlonger than that.

(57:45):
Because Jules Verne wrote aboutit in 1880, making a cannon
large enough to tilt the Earth'saxis.
Nathaniel can't remember hisname right now wrote a paper
about making basically hugeturboprops in the ocean To take
Pacific Ocean water and shuttleit up into the North Pole to

(58:07):
melt the ice in the North Pole.
Gordowski and Company, twoRussians, talked about putting a
potassium metal needles intospace to create an artificial
ionosphere that would focussunlight and melt the poles.
Oh wait, we did that.
It was the Westford NeedleProject, where the United States

(58:28):
Air Force dumped 480 milliondipole antennas, little needles,
into space.
Some of them are still up there, most of them are in the North
Pole.
Adamized the Arctic by JulianHuxley from UNESCO.
Let's use atom bombs to meltthe North Pole.
Oh wait, we did that too.
It's pure insanity if youactually start to learn history

(58:52):
about all this.
So for at least 60, 70 yearsthe plan was to melt the Arctic.
And then along comes John FKennedy and a paper called
Restoring the Quality of OurEnvironment.
And then suddenly there's thesetwo camps that are now at war.
One camp still wants to meltthe Arctic to get to that oil

(59:13):
and gas.
They call it the New Cold War.
If you Google that term inquotes New Cold War You'll hear
about how Russia and America arefighting over drilling rights
in the Arctic.
Right now We've already frackedall of the North Slope of
Alaska.
Polar bears my ass.

(59:34):
They talk out of one side oftheir mouth about saving the
world from global warming.
Meanwhile they're doingeverything they can to frack
every square inch of the NorthPole.

James Egidio (59:43):
And they're flying in their jets and they want
everybody else to stop.

Jim Lee (59:47):
Also back to what we talked about earlier troposphere
, stratosphere.
The stratosphere, thetropopause, is not at the same
height everywhere around theglobe.
It's lower.
In the Arctic it can be as lowas 28,000 to 30,000 feet over
the Arctic, even as close asAlberta, canada.
Once you get to that latitudeyou're talking about, it could

(01:00:11):
be 10,000 feet lower.
So suddenly planes that wereflying in the troposphere are
flying in the stratosphere andvirtually every private jet that
you go on ADSBEXCHANGECOM andyou track flights, they're pink.
They're highlighted pinkbecause they're flying above
40,000 feet, no matter wherethey are on the globe.

(01:00:33):
So the private jets are flyingin the stratosphere, they're
flying above the tropopause.

James Egidio (01:00:38):
Oh, they are.

Jim Lee (01:00:39):
Yeah, go look right now .
Promise you, it doesn't matterthat me and you are live right
now.
Whenever you watch this.
If you watch this a year fromtoday, I'm going to tell you
right now.
Go to globe ADSBEXCHANGECOM.
Look at the pink little privateplanes and they will be flying

(01:00:59):
in the stratosphere Becausethat's what the Davos crew is
doing.

James Egidio (01:01:03):
So they're flying 10,000 feet higher than a
commercial jet, then which?

Jim Lee (01:01:07):
is very that's right, that's right, that's a fact,
jesus.

James Egidio (01:01:12):
I know just recently there was a bill that
was passed called NHHB1700 theClean Atmosphere Preservation
Act.
Let's just talk about that fora couple of minutes here.
What's that all about?

Jim Lee (01:01:28):
I'm going to actually check on that real quick,
because that was in NewHampshire, by the way.
Yeah, but I'm not sure thatit's actually passed.
That's why I'm checking.

James Egidio (01:01:39):
Oh, okay, you want to fact check it.

Jim Lee (01:01:41):
Yeah, we're going to look at it right now.
Alright, so let's go over here,come back.
There's two different pages forthis that I have in my
bookmarks, excuse me.
Report File Status.
That's the house website and itreally sucks.
Next, last hearing was on the22nd of January, so they didn't

(01:02:06):
Okay.
So this is the last update Igot.
Yeah, the last update that Igot was Let me see if it's on
the other one NHB1700, not 1799.
Did it twice.
That should be it.
Yeah, it still says ActionCommittee Report Inexpedient to

(01:02:32):
legislation 130, vote 16-3,regular calendar.
So it has been sent to aworking committee.
They are From the inside.
What I've been told is that thechairman of the committee is in
favor of passing thislegislation, but it still has to

(01:02:55):
go to the New Hampshire Housefor an up or down vote.
Last I heard Kelley Patenza.
Representative Kelley Patenzawas saying that they're going to
rewrite the legislation.
I spoke with representativeJason Gerhardt on the telephone
after the first hearing publichearing and I actually we were

(01:03:16):
talking about this before wewent live I literally did a
three hour 30 minute breakdown,football commentator style pause
foul on the plate face mask.
They should have said this,anyway.
So I did a play by play on thewhole thing.
On the hearing itself and Jasonliterally said I just got done

(01:03:37):
watching the part where youripped me to shreds and I was
like don't take it personal.
And he's like no, I'm not Dude,I'm a freaking carpenter.
I'm like and I'm a dude who, mydad, owns a trailer park.
So I was a carpenter when I waslike seven years old, make the
carpentry pull them in anelectric Cutting a lot of grass,
don't take it personal.

(01:03:58):
And we had a great conversationand they went back into the
second hearing and reallychanged a lot in my personal
opinion.

James Egidio (01:04:07):
So what are they looking to do, though?
What's the whole crux of it?

Jim Lee (01:04:10):
The crux of it was that Kelly made a big boo and said
no, I'm not talking aboutcontrails or jet fuel at all.
I'm talking aboutgeoengineering intentional
spraying with pumps and pipes.
And that is straight from DaneWiginton fairy tale land.
That is where people failmiserably.

(01:04:31):
Let's be realistic.
David Keith, when asked by BillGates how many planes do I need
to?
And Brennan for that mattersaid 10 billion a year.
Right, you heard it.
That number comes from theAurora Flight Sciences report by
David Keith, funded by BillGates, to come up with an

(01:04:51):
estimate of how much it wouldcost to geoengineer the planet.
His estimate was 130 F-15fighter jets, 24 KC-135
refueling planes or as few as 14747-400s.

James Egidio (01:05:11):
Do you believe these people, though?
Do you believe what Gates issaying?

Jim Lee (01:05:14):
I believe in numbers.
Okay, like numbers, don't lie,do you believe what?
he says no, gates didn't saythis.
A bunch of nerds who wereliterally trying to get a
contract to build the planes, tomodify planes, to actually
spray the chemicals.
Yeah, they're in it for themoney.
Don't get it twisted, followthe money.

(01:05:38):
This wasn't even something thatwas televised, publicized.
This was literally a reportdone as a cost analysis of
geoengineering, and there havebeen multiple sentences.
They've talked about even usingblimps.
Bill Gates' Stratoshield wasliterally a blimp that would

(01:06:00):
pull a hose up to thestratosphere so they could pump
sulfur directly from the groundthrough a fire hose that was
lofted by a balloon.
So there have been manydifferent ideas.
But the point I'm trying tomake here is, if they're saying
that they could do it with asfew as 14 planes, at a max 160

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planes, let's just triple it.
Okay, let's say 600 planes.
Let's say they modified 600planes and kitted them out with
special pump sprites, sprayers.
The whole internal fuselage isnothing but one big container of
the five chemicals.

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You can nail it down to fivechemicals Sulfur, aluminum,
titanium, diamond dust andcalcium carbonate.
Those are the five prominentchemicals that have been in
every single geoengineeringStratasor aerosol injection
study ever written.
Because I've read most of them.

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I have 35 of them that arespecifically just about adding
sulfur to jet-fuel tanks.
Just the geo engineer.
Just 30, 35, just modified thefuel sulfur content and we could
geo engineer without having tobuild any new planes at all.

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But if you look at this reportand you take it at face value
and you say, all right, ten fullhat on.
Cia did it before.
They did it in Vietnam, theydid it in Cuba.
Cia blew up the Chernobylreactor because it was powering
the Russian Duga 3 woodpecker,which was the OG ionospheric

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heater which was responsible forthe coldest winter on record in
1983.
That killed 129 people inAmerica.
And then, conveniently, in 1986the Chernobyl reactor blew up
and the Duga 3 woodpeckerstopped working.
In my opinion it was the CIA.

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They did a HBO special about it.
I said, nah, more likely theCIA blew it up because of
weather warfare.
Guess what?
The Russian government came outand said publicly after the HBO
thing this was Americanpropaganda.
The CIA destroyed the Chernobylnuclear reactor.
I was like you can't make thisstuff up, like I just gut check.

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You know what I mean.
That's what my gut tells me.
That's how covert ops work.
Who's the likely candidate ifthere are white unmarked planes
flying in the sky doing geoengineering.
It's the CIA, yeah, becausenational security.
Even so, we're talking about atmost 600 let's be more than

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generous a thousand.
I'll give you a thousandspecialized planes.
I'm not talking about SouthwestAirlines and Air Abu Dhabi and
because I track every flight Isee come out over my house for
like better part of ten yearsand, unlike what most people and
I've heard this from a lot ofpeople they say, I'm seeing

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planes that are spraying and Ican't find them on flight radar
24 and I'm like did you checkADSB exchange?
Did you check spyglass?
Did you just check air toyflight radar?
How many did you check, becauseI can check them all same time?
Do they check out or do theyjust?
I have yet twice in my lifehave I seen a plane dumping out

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a bunch of chemicals out as buttin that we're not on a flight
tracker twice, yeah.

James Egidio (01:09:47):
So that's my real, that's my own personal
perspective to me it seems likethey're just taking an old
technology which is basicallyand it's a more of a
sophisticated technology is cropdusting.
Basically, it's cropped it iscrop dusting.
It's crop dusting is what it is, but it's on a massive scale.
But and I don't think theintentions are good, because I

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can honestly tell you from apersonal level I don't I never
felt good after those skiesreceded like that with those
chemicals.

Jim Lee (01:10:16):
Well, I named all the chemicals that are coming out of
the back yeah, that exhaustthat would make anybody feel
horrible if you got it in astrong enough amount.
Sure?
The real question that I toldthe people in New Hampshire and
I told you, car and in car, whenI interviewed them at the
weather modification conferenceat the American meteorological

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Society in Austin, texas, in2018, you car in car is the
National Corporation forAtmospheric Research, so the top
weather modification college,if you will, in the world.
And they're in Boulder,colorado, and I said to them is
there a rain sampling network?

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And the guy cut me off.
He's, of course there is.
We tend to sample, as that teststhe chemicals in the rain, and
the dude behind the tableflushed red and then looked at
his partner oh s word, oh snap.

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And I said because I would liketo build that.
I want to build a climateviewer for your backyard that in
real time does single particlemass spectrometry on the
chemicals that are falling inthe rain, so that I can rest
assured ago, okay, yes, they'respraying all these nanoparticles
out.
Yes, it's making clouds, but atleast the air I'm breathing and

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the rain that's falling downhere isn't as bad as I think, or
is it way worse than I think?

James Egidio (01:11:48):
yeah, because this stuff has got landing on crops
too right, your crop is?

Jim Lee (01:11:52):
not organic.
That's the end argument.
How can you have an organiccrop if it's literally being
coated in all of thesenanoparticles?
By the way, even the EPA airquality index and the aerosol
robotic network, nasa's aeronet,they don't test for
nanoparticles.
They only test down to a PM 2.5, so particulate matter of a 2.5

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micron.
So nanoparticles, they tooexpensive.
We, we we're not gonna botherwith that.
We've never invented a networkof sensors that can even test
for these chemicals right so theonly test.
There are really expensiveuniversities who were able to
afford the equipment to do thetesting, or the Air Force

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Research Lab or these sorts ofentities.
So what I've told them was ifyou want to get anywhere with
this bill, you need to have theproof.
That way you can proveliability, you can prove
causation right if you can findthe chemical signatures of jet

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exhaust, jet fuel or God forbidyou find something even special
or that wasn't supposed to bethere at all.
Now people have to ask thequestion where did it come from?

James Egidio (01:13:10):
yeah, that's what Brooke Jackson, who's a Pfizer
whistleblower, along with WarnerMendenhall, who I interviewed
it in a few months ago.
We're talking about just that.

Jim Lee (01:13:22):
What you're saying is causation is proving cause that
it there was the hardest thingin the world to prove it is.

James Egidio (01:13:29):
It is, and this is the reason why a lot of these
big pharma companies are notbeing held liable, for that very
reason, and it's so funny youmentioned that thing about the
nuclear reactors just recently.
I don't feel familiar with GregReese, but he reports for Info
Wars.
Yeah, he was just doing areport one of his quick videos
on Victoria Nuland mentioningabout bombing a reactor and

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blaming it on Russia.
They're all part of this Davosgroup and the World Economic
Forum the all these people are,so there's this like just close
network of people that are allworking together on this.
And who pays for this in theend?
That's my other question to youin the end, who pays?

Jim Lee (01:14:09):
for all.
This wasn't a David DavidAxelrod, obama's spokesman, that
said never let a good, a goodcrisis go to waste.
Go to waste, yeah, so that'sdisaster capitalism 101.
Yeah, you create the problemand then you offer the solution
problem reaction solution.

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In the infosec world, it's verysimilar.
So if there aren't problemswith the network, you're out of
a job, right.
If there aren't problemsgeopolitically, why do we need a
CIA?
Right, so they create theproblems, right?
It's always been that way.

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It always will be that way aslong as we continue to fall for
it operation MK ultra.

James Egidio (01:14:57):
These are all projects that were financed and
operated through the CIA.

Jim Lee (01:15:04):
Iran was a had a democratically elected president
and the CIA funded riots tooverthrow that democratically
elected president to installtheir own president.
Okay, and then when the peoplefigured out that the president
that was installed by the CIAwas selling out their oil to

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Americans, they promptlyoverthrew his ass and we ended
up with the IA tola coal manichanting death to America.
And you wonder why, if youdon't know the history of the
CIA playing democracy checkersaround the world and fake riots?

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Imagine January 6, except inthird world countries all over
the planet.
Right, you got agentprovocateurs on the street
saying hey bro, what's that?
Is that a you haul over therefilled with bricks?
Why don't we all go get bricksand go throw right?
You, you go first.
Right it's.

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People are so easily led and areyeah, that that's the main
problem.
So the same is true with thiswhole climate change agenda and
geoengineering.
Geoengineering, weathermodification, ionosphere heating
, cloud ionization, steeringlasers with lightning bolts,
chemtrails.

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They don't give a damn aboutyour political beliefs.
They don't care about yourreligion.
No, it does not matter.
No, it has nothing to do withthis discussion.
That's right because guess what,with you, black, brown, white,
purple, it don't matter.
Now we're all equally screwedif we don't get our feces

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consolidated and start tounderstand this problem and
understand the terminology, thetechnology and have a will to
fight back.
And I say fight attack ideas,not people.
This is not a let's go out andbeat up Bill Gates.
No, let's beat him with betterideas and let's prove beyond the

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shadow of a doubt that what webelieve we see is actually real.
Believe none of what you hearin half of what that includes
everything I just said.
That's guess what.
I've been doing this for 15years, but the day we all agree
is the day we could all be wrongthat's right so.
I I constantly fightconfirmation bias.

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I go and I go straight to thenaysayers and haters and the
trolls of the internet and I sayhey, when I spoke at the EPA
and the EPA pollution hearing onjet air, aircraft pollution, I
took my speech and I literallywent to meta bunk org, which is
Mick West's contrail sciencefame, top debunker of chemtrails

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in the world, and I posted theentire transcript right there.
And then I went to the gangstalkers of Facebook chemtrail
page and I posted it there toosimultaneously.
And I said to both groups comeat me, bro, you claim to be
debunkers?
Debunk one sentence, I'll doyou one better.

(01:18:24):
Debunk one word in mytranscript.
Yeah, ad hominem, and you'redoing this for fame, you're
doing this for money.
No, I said no, thanks guys.
Debunk anything in this papercrickets.
I went up to Washington DC soconfident because I had broken

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through that mold where I nolonger was bound to the ten full
hat region.
I wasn't bound to the onlyscience narrative.
I was riding that fit so wellthat neither side could say
anything wrong about what I wassaying.
And when I gave that speech Icame back home.

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My wife's like how to go?
I was like freaking great.
It's gonna take people three tofive years to figure out what
the hell I just said, but it wasawesome.
That was in 2015 yeah, and I'mstill repeating the same stuff
and people still haven't figuredit out.
But I've had more than ahundred scientists reach out to

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me via email who seen thattranscript and seen me speaking
on c-span and we're like how thehell did you know this in 2015?
yeah like we literally had.
We were just coming out withstudies in 2018, 2019,
confirming some of the stuff youwere saying then.
So I'm just waiting for theworld to catch up on this one,

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and I've taken a lot of flakover the years from opposition
on this, but I maintain thatboth things can be true.
You can have the CIA secretlygeoengineering the planet, and
that does not mean that everysingle plane in the sky is
intentionally pumping, piping,spraying chemicals right.

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Part of its atmospheric effects, part of its pollution.
They are using that pollutionfor a climate agenda.
Carbon taxes, carbon credits ifthey can get the mixture just
right, they can cool by day, notby night.
They can claim carbon creditsinstead of being carbon taxed

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out of the sky.
So that's really what theairliners agenda is.
It's about that dollar.
If you always follow the moneyyou go back to.
What's the modus?
What's the intent here?
The intention is they call itclimate mitigation, but really
they're trying to make the Parisclimate accord people happy by

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saying we've offset the co2coming out of planes by making
clouds during the day that coolthe planet and we've also done
serious cloud thinning or usedAI to avoid ice super saturated
regions so that we don't createclouds at night, so we have
starry nights.
Guess what I've been seeing forthe last five years around my

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house and had numerous peoplefrom all over the globe tell me
starts out early morning, planestaking off.
By mid noon whole sky is cloudyand then, magically, nightfall.
I can see the stars again rightif you're experiencing this,

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then you get what I'm talkingabout oh yeah this is what they
say they want to do and this iswhat I'm observing happening
yeah, and we're paying for it.

James Egidio (01:21:57):
The taxpayers are paying for all this, because I
know gates.
They've taken money out of hispocket to pay for all this oh no
, anything they do, they, theyalways get their money back yeah
, they do?

Jim Lee (01:22:07):
they do.
That's a guarantee.
But since climate change hasbeen declared a national
emergency, that is anexistential threat because our
borders could be overrun from byclimate.
Refugees like those people thatare flooding our southern
border are literally fleeingclimate change not just the

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tyrants and dictators and poorliving conditions.
To try to spin that as ifthey're running from climate
change is laughable if itweren't so nefarious yeah, yeah,
I think you have to blameeverything on climate change.

James Egidio (01:22:45):
Now that and COVID .

Jim Lee (01:22:47):
I got COVID Friday.
I literally went to work sick.
I went to faster care.
They stuck a swab up my nose.
What before I could, ninja,chop it out of their hand?
And then next thing I knowthey're sliding a laptop in the
room with a doctor on.
You tested positive for COVID.
I was like I guess I get to gohome from work, sleep it off.

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But yeah, it was body aches.
That was about it.
I'm already over it yeah throw.
It's a little rough still, butyeah we'll live.

James Egidio (01:23:19):
Jim Lee, thank you so much for coming on to the
medical truth podcast, and Iwant to get you on again.
We could talk about some otherthings that I discovered on your
website in regard to directenergy weapons and harp and all
that.
There's a lot to talk about, soI'd like to definitely get you
on very soon again.
Yeah, we should talk about theHavana syndrome yeah, let's do

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that because that's medicallyrelated.
Let's do it.
Yeah, again, thank you so muchfor joining me for this episode
of the medical truth podcast.
I really appreciate it.

Jim Lee (01:23:47):
I appreciate the invite and I look forward to sharing
this with all my all the climateviewers everywhere, thanks,
buddy thanks for listening tothe medical truth podcast.

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