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Intro (00:00):
Get ready to hear the
truth, the whole truth, and
nothing but the truth about theUnited States healthcare system
with your host of the medicaltruth podcast, James Egidio.
James Egidio (00:17):
Hi, I'm James
Welcome to the medical truth
podcast.
In my last episode, titledbiological dangers of 5g and EMF
radiation.
I interviewed Dr.
Martin Pall, a retiredbiochemistry and science
professor from Washington stateuniversity who has researched
and published numerous articleson the biological dangers of 5g
(00:39):
and EMF radiation.
In this episode, my guest is adiligent Subtack journalist and
podcaster, or with his wife.
The podcast is called The PowerCouple and they coach people
back to health by having themditch their Dependence on 5g and
EMF exposure for a happier,healthier, and more prosperous
(00:59):
life.
Please welcome to the medicaltruth podcast.
My guests.
Mr.
Roman shop of all.
Roman, welcome to
the Medical Truth Podcast.
How are you doing today?
Roman Shapoval (01:10):
Doing fabulous,
James.
Thanks for having me on.
James Egidio (01:13):
Absolutely.
For the viewers and listeners ofthe Medical Truth Podcast, a
little bit about who you are andwhat you do.
Roman Shapoval (01:20):
Thanks for
having me on.
I used to be a tech salesman for15 years in New Jersey and I
moved up to Canada when I when Imet my wife and I did a 180
career shift.
When I found out how muchtechnology was affecting us all
and actually that a lot of thesedevices can cause cancer,
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because when I was a teenager,my mother, grandmother,
grandfather, they all passedaway from cancer.
When I found out that there wasa link.
Between the two, it made mereally research what's happening
with our health.
I've always been big intofitness and nutrition.
I was a meathead, you would callit, back in New Jersey, in
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Jersey Shore days as a teenager,taking lots of protein shakes,
doing all kinds of stuff likethat.
And but then I realized thathealth isn't just about fitness.
It's about the mind.
It's about our soul.
It's about all differentaspects.
I studied psychology in collegebecause I was fascinated with
how people's minds work, howrelationships work, and that
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again brought me full circleinto technology and how a lot of
us are becoming addicted totechnology.
So that made me really launchfull steam ahead and connect
with other activists who focuson what's known as EMF or
electromagnetic fields aroundthe world.
I connected with ArthurFurstenberg and helped him with
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his social media, he wrote theInvisible Rainbow and I write
for Children's Health DefenceCanada as a blogger and also
Safe Living Technologies out ofOntario provide shielding
products meters, and consultingservices.
And when the pandemic started in2020, I became licensed as a
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building biology advocate.
Now, building biology means thestudy of holistic living how
basically how our dwellings, howour housing affects our biology.
And a big facet of that is EMF.
And when I saw what washappening with the deployment of
5G around the world and how itdovetailed with the pandemic,
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That made me really interestedin researching all this.
So currently I blog about EMF onSubstack.
I also have a one on one coursethat I'm releasing with my wife.
Who focuses on the sleep aspectand we also have a podcast
called the power couple where wehelp people power on with the
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sunrise power off addictivetechnology and power through
relationships that all startwith you.
And, really our passion is toempower people with ancestral
strategies and to regeneratemodern humans by repurposing the
power of the past.
Because, there's so many thingslike in my days training in gym,
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I saw so many supplements beingsold, all these things that
people were just throwing moneyleft and right.
Even with naturopaths, they sella lot of supplements, but I want
to empower people with knowledgeso they don't need to take
supplements.
All they need is their breath,sunlight, routines, sleep, and
the right mindset.
And that'll get us so farbecause In the end, let's just
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say the internet goes down orthings get broken.
We need to have that knowledge.
That's the only thing that lastsforever.
And that's what I really want topass down on to people.
And in part is that knowledge ofless is more.
And that's what I'm here forright now on Substack, just
trying to educate people abouthow light affects us more than
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food and how there are so manythings we can do in our
environment, especially now whenwe feel helpless.
We feel like we're beingbombarded left and right with
satellites or 5G or the latest7G gadget coming down the road
but there is so much we can do.
Yes, it'll be a long haul.
But there is a lot we can do andthe first step is raising
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awareness.
And so I thank you for having meon.
James Egidio (05:20):
Absolutely.
What compelled you to decide toinvestigate 5g further?
Because a lot of people take itfor granted, the dangers of 5g
and a lot of this stuff that'saround us.
And of course we have a lot ofexperts I had just interviewed.
(05:41):
Dr.
Martin Pall, who's a retiredbiochemist and a professor at
Washington State University,who's an expert on
electromagnetic frequencies in5g and the dangers of that,
especially the.
biological dangers of that.
In fact, the last episode I justdid was with Dr.
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Martin Paul, but it sounds likesomething compelled you to start
investigating this.
What was that?
Roman Shapoval (06:08):
It was just when
I found out that it was going to
be in addition to all thesefrequencies, not replacing it,
that was one thing that kind ofcaught my eye.
Because in the background, I'mthinking, all right, how much
can we really take?
How much assault can we take?
But honestly, I have to creditmy my deeper dive down the
rabbit hole, especially 5g toJack Cruz.
(06:31):
I don't know if you've heard ofhim, but yeah, he's a fantastic
resource.
Previous neurosurgeon out of theBronx and he now he basically
retrained himself in the medicalfield, how to perform brain
surgery without a scalpel, hesays, and he does that by
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educating people on light andhow leptin, which is the light
hormone, how that affects.
And came on a podcast with Lukestory back in 2017 called the
lifestyle podcast and I wascalling the 5g apocalypse and he
started talking about all thesethings.
Like I already knew about EMFand how harmful it was, but when
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he started talking about 5gespecially how the shorter wave
frequencies can are going to bemore closer to their, to our
homes.
And they're going to be a lotmore intense than what's already
out there.
That really piqued my interestand he was so passionate about
it and he explained it so wellthat kind of really made, put a
fire on my under my rear end.
(07:35):
Yeah.
Yeah, so that I'd have to creditmy not my interest in health or
EMF but going deeper down therabbit hole of 5G with Jack
Kruse.
And he has a websiteJackKruse.com.
And he explains how EMS affectour biology and how we use
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sunlight.
And that's a big premise of mysub sack his I distill.
his brain surgery and a lot ofthese concepts that are hard for
the normal person to understandand I distill it to a way that
people can understand
James Egidio (08:11):
So you did this
deep dive into the 5g technology
and a lot of this, these EMFsand whatnot.
And so on a normal day.
How do you avoid those?
How do you minimize that?
I should say or not really avoidit because I don't think any of
us could avoid it, but how wouldyou minimize it or how do you
minimize it on a personal level?
Roman Shapoval (08:33):
Yeah, no, that's
a great question.
Number one I clean up my body.
So I kind of work from theinside out.
I try to have as little metal.
inside of my body.
Number one.
So I'm detoxing constantly withstuff like chlorella, which is
removing heavy metals from theblood.
I constantly I wear wool all thetime.
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I have marina wool on, whicheven in the summer, it's very
breathable and marina wool onwill actually regulate the
electromagnetic frequencies inour environment.
Whereas cotton can insulatefrequencies and make you more
subjected to it.
A lot of our clothing haspolyester, which has It is not
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very electrically stable, it canreally attract a lot of fields.
Number one, treating my skin andmy clothing as my second skin is
a strategy I take.
But just to back up on that likewith anything else, first we
want to remove what we cancontrol, right?
Dirty electricity is probablythe biggest.
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Culprit, and it's one of thesethings that's in everybody's
home now.
Dirty electricity.
What that is transient or strayvoltage that comes from our
neighbor's homes or from thepower company.
And it creates spikes in ourhomes and those spikes right
along the electrical wiring andcan also coalesce or combined
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with other in the environment,such like, such as 5G or any
other intense.
So if we reduce the ambientlevel of radiation in our homes,
our electricity, and we can dothat by simply shutting off
power to rooms we don't need orby having filters, which I
bought filters, I keep them on,and at night I shut the power
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off.
That's one strategy that we cando right there, that it's going
to drastically reduce oureveryday exposure.
See, it's not so many of us arescared of the these lasers or
the satellites or these beamforming weapons And yeah, they
can all lose damage But it'sthat how do you eat an elephant,
one bite at a time.
And that's the problem is allthe research on EMFs, it's, they
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don't take into account lowlevel chronic exposure, right?
They'll say that non ionizing,which is what cell phones are,
non ionizing radiation isn'tharmful, but that's because they
don't take into account, people.
Don't just use a cell phone forone minute of your life and
that's it, right?
So or even our electrical fieldsin the home.
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So there are so many things I doAnd really it's all like a
combination of things but with5g number one I don't have A
cell phone this 5g enabled don'thave any internet of thing,
right?
My home is hardwired.
I don't use those wirelessdevices And yeah, so those are
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two things, the home wiring, theclothing what's in our your
nutrition, your diet because youare an antenna for these
electromagnetic fields and then,not buying into that paradigm
not buying wireless devices orhaving those things around us
because I hear that all the timefrom people that I try to help,
Oh, it's all around us.
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I hear that from my family.
Oh, what are you going to do?
It's our choice.
It doesn't have to be around us,so sure.
It's a cop out, but yeah,there's a lot of stuff I do.
James Egidio (12:02):
Yeah.
So was there a time when youwere dependent on a wireless
cell phone?
And if so, when was that?
Roman Shapoval (12:13):
Yeah, no, great
question.
When I was selling technology inNew Jersey, I was selling
computers.
So I was constantly on thatthing and, scrolling all the
time, waiting for the next textto come from a client, or on
Facebook my iPad, I had all, Iwas just like, ah, it's safe.
They would have told us.
Nothing's happening to me.
(12:34):
Nothing's wrong with me, right?
That kind of mentality until acouple years later, all of a
sudden I look at myself and I'mlike burnt out.
I'm gaining waist gain weightaround the hips.
I'm not, I'm not feeling great.
Yeah, probably in my thirties,I'd say I was using that and
that was about
James Egidio (12:51):
10 years ago.
So what it sounds like you'resaying is you did find a
noticeable difference in youroverall health and when you were
using these devices as opposedto not using them.
Roman Shapoval (13:02):
Yeah,
absolutely.
I would say it's a subtle kindof difference because you get
used to it like anything else,it's like an addict, right?
Or anybody who becomes obese,you don't become obese
overnight, right?
People say, Oh I got cancer.
You didn't just get cancer, itwas you ate like crap for 20
years, right?
Or you did something.
(13:22):
So it was just it was a gradualkind of lowering of energy, of
vitality.
My eyes, dark circles around myeyes, I would wake up in the
morning feeling home hung overwithout drinking, right?
Because the melatonin wasprobably still in my system from
all the blue light I wasexposing myself to, My body
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wasn't kicking into regeneratemode until three in the morning.
So now it's wake up seven, eighta.
m.
And I feel like crap anddrinking coffee all day to
mitigate that.
Yeah, it's it really creeps upon you.
James Egidio (13:57):
Yeah It sounds
like too what you're saying is
that if you are going to becomeIf you are dependent on these
devices, or if you're usingthem, let's say a cell phone,
for instance, probably one ofthe best things to do is just
minimize the use, maybe perhapseven keep the your smartphone
off on the in the off positionwhen you're not using it at all.
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maybe quit using it at acertain.
Hour of the day or be justbefore you, several hours before
you go to bed so you don't getthe blue screen effect.
Correct.
That's what it sounds like.
Roman Shapoval (14:33):
Yeah.
I mean it's for sure you candefinitely do those things.
I am, I think it's it takes alot of discipline to be able to
do that.
You can do it eventually.
I advise people if they don'tneed the cell phone.
Think about all the reasons youneed a cell phone.
And eventually you won't needit.
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You'll find that you just needthe hardwire connection to your
computer and the desktop.
You can get so much more donebecause the problem is with
these cell phones, they say thatthey don't radiate or they don't
do anything when they're off.
But we know that they.
For instance, even spy on uswhen they're when they're off,
the microphone is always on evenairplane mode itself.
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There's spyware and that'ssomething that's a software that
will trick us into thinking thatit's actually doing something
that the phone isn't.
For instance, it'll show thatthe phone is on airplane mode
when it really is not.
So we just can't trust thesethings.
And I've taken measurements withmy radio frequency meter, and
even confirmed with other EMFactivists like Arthur
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Furstenberg, and he'll, he knowsthat these cell phones, even
when they're off, even whenthey're in airplane mode, they
still radiate, they still give aresidual current.
I'm not trying to be a Luddite,but I think there's just, we
need to use technology in asmart way.
And I don't want, a perfect tobe the enemy of good.
Hey, if you're, if you'reinterested in any of this, baby
steps are important.
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So the best thing we can do, Ithink even without the screen
filters personally like my wifeand I we share a phone because
she still has a day job.
And, we hardwire it, but we keepit in the garage at night.
I love it.
It's in a tin box, it's in acookie tin, and it's in the
garage.
So guess what?
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If you want to really get thephone, you're gonna go into the
garage and get it, but chancesare you're not going to.
It's if there's a, if there's atin of cookies right on this
kitchen table here, I'm, chancesare, I'm going to eat it, right?
Because they're right in frontof me.
So if the cell phone's aroundus, we're going to use it.
So the best thing you can do isdraw those boundaries.
And none of us is the presidentof the United States.
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Nobody can get ahold of us ateight o'clock at night, right?
Who cares?
We miss the call, we'll get backto them the next day and it
just, your life is going tochange.
Believe me.
It's hard while it's home, itgoes to answering machine.
And, I actually have real callswith my family now, it's done
present and it's the thing youthink that our lives are going
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to get so much more difficultwithout a cell phone, a life
actually improves without a cellphone, right?
And that's the reason why we'veforgotten how to
James Egidio (17:10):
live.
Sure.
So what you're saying is if Iput my cell phone, even in my
vehicle at night, which is inthe garage, I'm pretty much
safe, right?
Yeah, I would
Roman Shapoval (17:20):
say so.
I would say so as long as it's Iwould put it in a tin box or
something where it's insulatedbecause it can, if it, even if
it's in your car and it has thedata on, it's going to be
pulling signal from the nearesttower.
And if your data, if your signalis very weak, it can draw in up
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to 10, 000 times more radiationactually on one bar than on a
full strength four or five bars,because now it's pulling from 10
different towers, which is onetower.
So if you put it in your car,just shut it off, and and, at
the very least, if you don'thave a tin box, just shut it
off, put it in your car and, andthen at least, Hey, there's
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distance.
And, it's out of sight, out ofmind kind of thing.
Yeah.
James Egidio (18:07):
How about wrapping
it in foil and putting it in
your car?
Yeah,
Roman Shapoval (18:11):
absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah, tinfoil will work.
James Egidio (18:15):
Or how about if I
wrap it in tinfoil, take it down
to the beach, which is down thestreet from the house, and just
throw it in the ocean and neveruse it again?
Roman Shapoval (18:25):
Yeah, but that's
not fair to all those.
The dolphins and I, you'll beforgiven.
That's the worst thing you
James Egidio (18:31):
can tell my wife
too.
It's funny because my wife, sheuses her phone at night
sometimes to put herself tosleep by looking at, scrolling
through whatever, readingarticles or whatever.
And I keep telling her and she'scomplaining about.
Insomnia sometimes waking up atall different hours of the
evening, and sometimes she don'teven get to bed till 11 o'clock
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and she's still looking on thephone.
And I said, it's that bluescreen and she just, she doesn't
I can't get it through to herhead.
The other thing I do that shelaughs at is I've actually
covered my modem.
Not completely wrapped it, butcovered it like put a shield
around my modem and even theantennas with tinfoil because
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tinfoil is a pretty goodinsulator of any kind of
radiation, at least for the mostpart, it'll at least minimize it
if anything, correct?
Roman Shapoval (19:24):
Correct.
James Egidio (19:26):
So that does work,
right?
Roman Shapoval (19:28):
It does work.
You just, I just advise peopleto be careful how they do that
because it can re reflect.
It's any EMF, especially radiofrequency radiates, right?
So it goes out in alldirections, right?
So if we don't have that tinfoilcinched down 100 percent if
there's any holes, it can thenfor instance, it'll focus all
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that radiation and laser beam inone direction.
And then it can bounce offwalls, things like that.
Yeah, you just, you just, theonly way to really know.
It's to measure it with a meter.
But yeah, no, there's lots ofpeople who do that.
The best thing really do is justunplug the wifi at night, right?
But then your wife won't have
James Egidio (20:10):
the thing.
Yeah.
And that led into a little bitof a dispute with my wife too,
because she's in her family.
It was all in Italy and hersexcuse was not that it was an
excuse.
It's a valid argument.
Is that if I need to get a phonecall from someone, at home and
I'm like, Oh, geez, But I, I didnotice like, since I've covered
the modem router with the foiland it seems like it has
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minimized it because like thehead, my head pressure, there
was not as much head pressurefrom, I, at least I felt that's
what that was coming from.
And I also had 1 of those lightson my desk that have the where
you can actually put your phoneon the light.
My wife gave it to me for agift.
Where you could put your phoneon the base of the light and it
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charges your phone.
And I got rid of that.
I just have a regular desk lamp.
That's good.
So that's good that you didthat.
Yeah, I'm trying to do that.
So let me ask you something.
I know you mentioned somethingabout what's called supporting
your life force.
What is that?
Roman Shapoval (21:11):
That's a great
question.
So for thousands of years,scientists like Newton, Galvani
and others, scientists likeNewton, Galvani and others have
been trying to figure out what'sgoing on in the atmosphere.
So for thousands of years,scientists like Newton, Galvani
and others always ascribed towhat was known as the Alain
Vital or life force and that'ssomething that is
electromagnetic in naturebecause there are two forces In
nature main forces that iselectromagnetism and gravity and
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chemistry is just a byproduct ofelectromagnetism.
So everything that we nowscience knows and talks about,
like the cell and what'shappening in the cell, the
cellular matrix and all thesethings, it's all chemically
based.
But electromagnetics.
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Is it's unto dillion, I believe,is the, I think about 13 sets of
zeros stronger than the force ofgravity, but it's not
acknowledged by the UN or by theWorld Health Organization as a
potent.
Force of even climate change oranything, for instance, the sun
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isn't even acknowledged inclimate models, but not to
digress down that rabbit hole,but our life force is our
ability to basically createelectrical potential,
electromagnetic potential in ourbody.
And that could be done throughour nervous system mainly our
cerebral spinal fluid, which iscomprised of many minerals.
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Like magnesium, manganese,sodium, potassium is a big one.
And a lot of us lose thosefluids and we don't regenerate
those.
And that fluid, that cerebralspinal fluid is what flushes our
brain out at night when wesleep.
It goes into the deep crevicesand folds of our brain and
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basically does like an oilchange for our brain every
single night through each cycleof sleep.
So that what I think of as lifeforce is the voltage, the
electricity that's runningthrough my body.
And that's why I recently becomeobsessed with measuring my body
voltage.
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Grounding every day in front ofmy desk and I measure, I make
sure that there's no transientor foreign voltage getting into
my body from other EMFs so myblood and everything is running
smoothly because if your bloodgets impacted and you have clots
or anything like this EMFs can alot of times cause that because
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you stop being able to oxygenateyour blood And EMFs magnetize
onto iron, which is inhemoglobin, which is what
carries oxygen to our blood.
And iron, of course, ismagnetic.
So when iron gets dislodged byEMFs and disrupted, we can't
breathe the right way anymore.
Our cells, that chemicalreaction, it can no longer
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sustain itself because thatelectromagnetic life force.
It's being slowly sucked away bymagnets in our environment.
So I don't know if that kind ofmakes sense.
James Egidio (24:23):
A lot of sense.
Yeah, in fact, I when I hadinterviewed Dr Pall just
yesterday, we were talking aboutthat.
He was talking about the calciumchannels in the heart and has a
direct effect at the cellularlevel at the cell wall with the
exchange of calcium voltagegated.
channels, VGCCs, and he wastalking about that, exactly what
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you're saying.
So that supports what he hadmentioned more or less in the
episode that I had with him justyesterday.
Roman Shapoval (24:56):
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
That's and I'm honored to be onthe same podcast because I've
always looked up to see MartinPaul.
He was one of the firstresearchers that was really
calling out everything how crazythis all was, the experiment.
And that's, that's why they giveyou calcium channel blockers.
For heart conditions becauseyour heart, we think of calcium,
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we think of bones, but Right.
The brain and our heart have themost calcium in our bodies.
And that's why, why?
And what do they give you whenyou go to the hospital?
Oh, an electroencephalogram orelectrocardiogram.
So this isn't tinfoil hat this.
We have minerals that areelectrically based
James Egidio (25:37):
right?
And I think what it is to isbeing able to bridge that gap
with the public based on justthe physiological and biological
effects of this technology, letalone the social.
Implications because a lot ofpeople are so attached to that.
(25:59):
And we'll I'll get into thatwith you as we progress into
this conversation about breakingthat and ditching the electronic
gadgets, or at least try tominimize it.
Because that's one of thehardest things to do when you
think about it.
We're so dependent on that with,checking our banking balance
going to the internet and, orchecking it on your phone and,
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our whole lives are on thesegadgets and, they talk about a
cyber attack where one day youwake up and all this is pretty
much minimized at least it takescare of what.
You've been talking about andDr.
Pall been talking about is theexposure,
Roman Shapoval (26:39):
right?
James Egidio (26:41):
But then it for
most people the most vital thing
for them is oh my gosh I can'taccess my bank account or I
can't access, you know theweather We'll go outside and
check the weather.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I
Roman Shapoval (26:54):
know.
I know.
I know.
Let me see what the weather's
James Egidio (26:56):
yeah you know you
make reservations to travel on
online and on your phone and youdo everything you shop online.
So they've gotten us more orless where they want us as far
as dependency on these gadgets.
But I think that's anotherreason why they're never brought
up as far as the dangers ofthese, of this technology,
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because the lobbying power isprobably so strong with this
industry that there are nochecks and balances with.
In fact, this was a quote.
That Dr.
Pall just made.
I just actually posted it onhis, but he says putting in tens
of millions of 5G antennaswithout a single biological test
(27:38):
of safety.
Has got to be about thestupidest idea anyone has had in
the history of the world.
That was one of his quotes, sothere you go right there and you
back it up to with your researchand your time there.
So you're talking about avoltage meter, right?
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And testing this and groundingyourself.
And I know for a lot of people,sleep is very important.
Of course, for all of us youtalked about creating a sleep
sanctuary with a voltage meter.
Let's discuss that a little bit.
What is that?
Roman Shapoval (28:18):
Yeah.
So in my training as a, inbuilding biology see the study
of building biology, they're thefirst discipline to develop
standards, safety standards forelectricity and sleeping
environments before that.
Okay, we knew maybe formaldehydecould off gas from mattresses we
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knew that maybe there werecertain pesticides in cotton
blankets, but there were neverany safety standards for
electricity or magnetic fields.
Now the building biologyinstitute, which is an
international institute out ofSanta Fe, New Mexico.
They design theseinternationally recognized
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standards.
So for thousands of years,humans, we have always been, our
body voltage has always beenzero volts and voltage is just
the potential of power.
It's how much pressure.
Think of your body as a hose.
How, there should be very littlebuilt up electrical pressure in
your body.
Everything should be flowingfreely.
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But if we have a lot of bodyvoltage, that means that our
cells are under stress.
They're under a lot of pressure.
But for thousands of years,there were never any non native
electromagnetic fields likeradio, radar telegraph.
None of that existed for 100,000 years.
And in the last 150 years, we'vehad all these frequencies come
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in.
In the building biology approachthat I was trained in, we try to
mimic our bedroom to reflect thesame ancestral origin as we once
had.
Where our body has zero voltsrunning through it when we're
sleeping.
And why is that important?
Because our cells, they divideand repair when we sleep.
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And they divide and repair.
Along frequencies anywhere from0 to 75 hertz.
Now, hertz is just a cycle persecond.
So think about your electricalwiring in your home.
That's 60 cycles per second or60 hertz.
It turns out based on the workof Dr James Oshman, who energy
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medicine and the work ofscientists at the building
biology institute, they've shownthat our body regenerates and
our cells communicate atanywhere from 0 to 75 cycles per
second.
It's important when we sleep tohave our cells communicate,
obviously.
And you need to have a veryminimal voltage going through
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your body, because if you havespikes going through your body
all the time, that's gonna, thatcan knock that frequency into a
higher mode and thencommunication systems can break
down.
So you try to, so how do youbuild a sleep sanctuary?
Number one, you want to begrounded.
That's the most important partof it all.
You want to have a connection tothe earth.
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There's a lot of people thatwill sell grounding mats,
grounding sheets, things thatplug into your wall.
And those have actually can do alot more harm than good.
Because most homes, 99 percentof homes have what's called
dirty electricity that Imentioned before, and dirty
electricity introduces thesetransient or foreign spikes of
power.
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So if you, now you're pluggingyourself in to the wall and
yeah, you may have a groundedoutlet, but if you're getting
stray electricity from yourneighbor, all of a sudden
decides to run his blender at,in, at midnight or the power
company is pushing frequenciesout.
You're going to be disrupted.
So how do you build a sleepsanctuary?
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The most foolproof way is toshut off the power to your
bedroom and have a mattress thathas no metal in it have a bed,
don't have a bed frame with anymetal in it.
You can have just for anybodywho wants to relive their
college days, you can have oneof these like wooden style
futons just like from Ikea, justa wooden style mattress.
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And then you can layer that withwool mattresses, or sorry, a
wooden style bed frame.
And then you can layer that withwool, cotton different types of
mattresses.
And it's not crazy expensive,it'll probably cost you about 2,
500 if you want to do it theright way.
Personally, I know it soundscrazy, I sleep in my basement,
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and I sleep on a wool blanket onthe concrete floor.
And my body, you'd be surprisedyour body adjusts and I sleep
just fine.
My I do have a pretty strongback from doing lots of yoga,
tai chi and weightlifting.
But you're you'd be surprised ifyou're on a cool ground.
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That's exactly what your bodywants.
It wants that what it had forthousands of years.
That ground that is just cool.
It's regenerating you and youcan fall asleep.
But so many of us are lifted uphigh around this metal frame.
We're getting hot in the middleof the night.
So notice that, I know that noteverybody wants to be as
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hardcore as I am, but you can,if you don't want to be, there's
lots of options out there interms of creating a sleep
sanctuary.
So basically turn the power off,at least your bedroom and
measure your body voltage toknow how much.
If you are getting any becauseyou can have the power off your
bedroom, but your circuitbreaker could be made the wrong
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way by your electrician, so youcould still be having stray
voltage come in from anotherroom.
So the best way to do it is testyour body voltage.
And I had this done by abuilding biologist three years
ago.
They actually tested my voltageand now I do it for myself.
I created my own meter and it'svery easy to do.
EMF 101 course.
I'm going to.
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teach people how to do thisthemselves.
But yeah, measure that field andthen yeah, remove any metal that
you don't need in your mattress.
And if you can't afford to buy,a$3,000 sleeping setup.
which I totally understand, Iget it, at least shut the power
off to your bedroom at night andmove your move your bed frame
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about a foot away from the walljust to be safe, because there
are magnetic fields that willthat get attached to these wires
throughout your wall and thosecan come out, and those are
actually impossible to shieldagainst, magnetic fields, so you
wanna be able to just giveyourself some distance Again,
there's so much you can do, butit's all little steps.
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And I know this soundsoverwhelming for people, but you
just have to think about how welive for thousands of years and
back engineer that.
And when you're going to feel,even shutting off the wifi at
night, you'll feel so muchbetter because now your brain
doesn't have to hear thatbackground noise.
So even if you don't want to gohardcore, shut the power off and
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sleep on concrete or buy a$3,000bed with a mattress and
everything, there's so much youcan do and just try it.
You never know how you're goingto
James Egidio (35:18):
feel.
So it sounds like what you'resaying is that the body acts
like an antenna to these voltagepulses, these this dirty
electricity and EMF and whatnotis what it is.
Is that true?
Roman Shapoval (35:31):
Yeah, for sure.
And, even forget about 5G, butlet's just say you're a
refrigerator.
Let's use that as an example.
Make sure that your bed, bedroomisn't close to your
refrigerator, at least ninefeet.
from your fridge becausemagnetic fields from your
refrigerator.
Anything with a transformer,which most refrigerators have
and they sell low emfrefrigerators too.
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But most standard refrigeratorswill give off a strong magnetic
field.
Now, why is that important whenyou sleep to avoid when you
sleep?
Because again, our cells dividealong magnetic field lines and
they all basically divide intorepair.
So We want to minimize ourdistance from that because our
body will pick up on that field.
That's just one thing you cando.
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And
James Egidio (36:16):
you said you make
your own voltage meter.
Yeah.
Roman Shapoval (36:21):
Yeah.
So you can buy one for about200.
Or you can buy a meter thatelectricians use.
It's about 60 bucks.
I bought one.
And then you buy these bananaplugs.
And you put you take one plugand you put it in the earth and
you ground it and then you takeanother plug and then you just
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you put it on your finger tomake sure that you're not
running any straight voltage.
So that set up probably cost me,I say like about 80 bucks,
right?
So less than half the cost.
And I get it.
Okay.
It's 80.
Okay.
Can I, Roman, can I spend thismoney?
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But this is something you'regoing to have for life, right?
This is a meter you can takewith you anywhere you go, right?
You know what I mean?
You can now, you can testyourself any time you
James Egidio (37:13):
want.
Sure.
Sure.
Roman Shapoval (37:15):
It's peace of
mind, right?
It's peace of mind.
So 80 bucks is nothing.
James Egidio (37:19):
Sure.
What are some safe levels ofelectricity?
Roman Shapoval (37:24):
For like for
body voltage.
James Egidio (37:27):
Yeah, for body
voltage, correct.
Body voltage is
Roman Shapoval (37:29):
anything less
than 10 millivolts per meter.
So that's the building biologystandard.
But you want to be as close tozero as possible.
But again, I know it's at leastwhen you sleep, you want that
reading under 10 millivolts.
During the day you have a littlebit more leeway.
It could be, around 100millivolts.
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You'll be okay.
There, there's varying levels ofconcern.
There's no concern, right?
Then there's slight, thenthere's extreme concern.
Again, you want to make surethat on a chronic, on an
everyday level, you're keepingit low.
Okay, if there's one day thatyou're in a telecom, you're at a
conference, in a big officebuilding, or, you're surrounded
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by people in Disney world orsomething like that, okay,
that's one day But on aneveryday level, you just want to
make sure you're keeping thatconsistent.
So your body can, because theirbodies are amazing machines,
they can repair.
James Egidio (38:26):
Oh, absolutely.
They just
Roman Shapoval (38:27):
need to give
them a chance.
James Egidio (38:29):
Sure.
So you mentioned somethingabout, there's three tactics
that you employ to reduceelectrical EMFs.
What are those?
Roman Shapoval (38:40):
Number one, my
body.
So I I look at it as three,three skins that we live in.
So we have a physical skin thatwe want to treat by absorbing a
lot of sunlight, namelyinfrared, red and UV sunlight,
which is going to help us buildour hormones and fight cancer.
Yeah.
(39:00):
Oh, there you go.
Yeah.
And yeah, so yeah, UV, it, itgets a bad rap so many times,
but that's because we alwaystake it out of balance.
We get out in the summer withouttanning at all or getting any.
Sunlight in the winter, then wego out in the springtime, and we
get burnt, and then we blame UVlight.
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But UV light is you can think ofas the leaves of a tree.
It's building that tree up, andwhere the red light are, is the
root system.
The red light is penetratingdeeper.
It's regenerating, like you havethere, wound healing, hair
growth, and then once you buildyour skin with enough of that
red light, Then you can come inwith that purple or UV light and
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then absorb more of that UVlight without getting burnt
because now you have that basetan.
And you're at, and now you'reable to absorb the higher
frequencies, right?
It's it's think of the red lightas a drummer, right?
If you have a crappy drummer ona rock band.
It doesn't matter how good yourguitarist is, the music is going
to sound terrible.
That's one thing we can dobecause your skin has something
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called melanin, and I wrote awhole subsec article on that, on
it's called How to EMF Proof OurSkin, and it'll show you how to
use melanin, which is basicallya semi conducting computer chip
that God gave us to build ourimmune system that resides in
our skin, and it allows us todissipate and use.
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the electricity in ourenvironment to detox.
So it's just the fantasticdesign that our bodies have.
So that's one thing we can do.
And then our second skin is ourclothing.
So what kind of clothing are wewearing on a daily basis?
Are, do we have piercings allover the place?
Do we have tattoos, which alsoabsorb?
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Electromagnetic frequencies.
Do we have are we wearing allkinds of metal, right?
Or any kind of clothing that mayhave nanofibers that could have
metal particulates.
And then finally, our housewhich is our third skin.
How are we treating that thirdskin?
Are we letting it breathe?
Are we opening?
Are we actually getting sunlightin?
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Because windows don't bring insunlight.
Windows just bring in light andbrightness.
But UV doesn't penetrate throughwindows.
Are we opening that, right?
Are we getting out or, andagain, how are we mimicking what
our ancestors did as much aspossible?
It's a holistic approach, but,and there's so much more we can
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do, which is part of this coursethat I'm teaching now.
That's really going to hone inon these different facets
because, repairing the damage isone thing, but how we're living
day to day is also.
Another thing and building thosehabits back up is very
important.
James Egidio (41:48):
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
You say that too, because I knowwhen COVID broke they were
recommending a lot of differenttypes of supplements.
And one of them, of course, was.
Vitamin D but they never reallycaution people about vitamin D.
Because your body producesvitamin D when it's exposed to
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the sunlight.
And that's probably the bestform of vitamin D you can get is
if you could just get out in thesun a little bit for, an hour a
day or whatever, take a briskwalk and expose yourself to the
sun, you're going to producevitamin D naturally in your
body.
When you start takingsupplemental vitamin D or any
type of oil based.
Supplement like that a what isit?
(42:31):
A insoluble vitamin, which are alot of your oil based vitamins
like E and D and whatnot.
You risk what's calledhypervitaminosis.
And we live in a generationwhere people think more is
better.
So if they take more vitamin D,the better.
And it's the opposite.
It'll destroy your, it'llactually, there's a lot of side
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effects to insoluble vitamins.
So the best source of vitamin Dis just going out in the sun,
walk around for an hour orwhatever.
And just expose yourself to thesun.
The body will produce thevitamin D.
Roman Shapoval (43:07):
Is that's like
when you over calcify the
vitaminosis?
James Egidio (43:11):
calcium is a water
soluble vitamin.
Just Like Vitamin C, you cantake four or five, six, seven,
8, 000 milligrams of vitamin C.
So you're just going to pee itout any water soluble vitamin,
but water insoluble vitaminssuch as E and D and even cod
liver oil.
But a lot of your insolublevitamins, which are a lot of
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your oil based vitamins, arevery harsh on the body if you
take too much.
And a lot of people will takemore than less.
Roman Shapoval (43:40):
Okay.
Yeah, no, because I agree withwhat you're saying.
I guess I was asking about thecalcium because I've I've read
that you can, your body willthen absorb too much calcium
because vitamin D's.
Good call a calciferol, right?
So if you don't have, if itdoesn't get absorbed right with
sunlight, then you can calcifyyour arteries or your organs too
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much and then lead toosteoporosis and stuff like
that.
James Egidio (44:05):
Yeah.
You really don't need vitamin D.
Like I said you can get that inthe sun.
I think that whole thing about,Oh, it helps with COVID and this
and that was that, we have thelockdown.
So a lot of people were in thehouse, so they weren't producing
a lot of vitamin D, but thatright there, that advice was
horrible.
And then there was never aconversation about the immune
system during COVID, but we,that's a whole nother topic we
(44:26):
can even get into the wholeCOVID thing, but share with the
listeners and viewers of themedical truth podcast about your
course.
And
Roman Shapoval (44:37):
yeah, no thanks
again for letting me talk about
it here.
So this again is based in thebuilding biology approach of
holistic living.
And there's other courses outthere on EMF.
They could find online ourcourse is different because it
focuses on the tech addictiveaspect and even things like body
(45:01):
language and how body languagecan impact our psychology or
neurotransmitters throughout theday.
And how would you snap out ofthat with positive body language
and how we can actually becomemore confident.
Our children can have greaterconnection on a day to day life
and during your day to daylives, but the course will teach
(45:24):
you basically everything youever wanted to know or need to
know about EMF, and this isn'tjust about 5G or wireless
radiation.
It includes things like Magneticfields are a home wiring.
It'll help you consult with anelectrician to tell them what
wiring errors they may want tolook out for or inspect.
(45:46):
Cause a lot of times just basicwiring errors can cause magnetic
fields that are harmful.
But there's five modules and thefirst one is just a one on one
breakdown of the eight differenttypes of magnetic fields.
The second one, it teaches allabout health effects, like
basically how obesity anddiabetes can be linked to.
Electromagnetic fields and howblue light can affect those
(46:08):
conditions as well, and what youcan do about it.
Module three is how to reduceEMFs in your home.
The fourth module we'll gothrough how to measure EMFs and
as well as how to build your ownbody bulb meter.
And the fifth module we'll talkabout how to repair EMF damage
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in your body with nutrition andprecision time sunlight.
Then there's a six module, whichis a bonus module, which is
gonna include lifetime access toall past and future courses as
well as access to the PowerCircle community, which will
have other Emmet Healthadvocates on there as well,
(46:51):
where you can constantly ask usquestions anytime.
And there's 26 total lessonsalong with 26 hours or along
with 26 quizzes.
over six hours of instructionalcontent and videos and
downloadable resources that youhave for life as well as six one
hour calls over this course ofsix weeks that you'll have with
(47:13):
myself and Bodana will also bejoining us as well talking about
the sleep aspect and insomniabecause she, that's something
that she actually helped herselftranscend.
She got herself off all thesleeping pills.
And is, sleeps very well now andand that's what I'm finding a
lot is many people are just,there's not any one health
(47:37):
issue.
A lot of people have, it just,everybody's chronically fatigued
and burnt out.
And I found that just reducingthe overall e meth load, which
is an unnecessary toxin in ourenvironment people do feel a lot
better.
And and that's what I'mpassionate about.
Again, I'm trying to help peoplewith empowering them with
knowledge.
So they don't have to run to thedoctor, they don't have to run
(47:59):
to Amazon and buy vitamin Dsupplements.
All they need to do is figureout what is causing the low
vitamin D or iron deficiency inthe first place.
So again this, all these modulesare available for life.
And and it's a work in progressas well.
(48:20):
I can't see.
Revising, but the course will bereleased in February.
So registration closes onFebruary 12th, but we'll have
our 1st round.
In February.
Nice.
James Egidio (48:34):
And that's the
website that's being displayed
right there, correct?
Correct.
Roman Shapoval (48:38):
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's www.ThePowerCouple.ca
James Egidio (48:42):
Yeah.
And that's actually beingscrolled at the bottom there of
this podcast of this podcast ofthe medical truth podcast.
And then also you do a, as youmentioned earlier, a podcast
with your wife and that's righthere, it's called the power.
Couple podcasts, right?
Yes.
(49:02):
Yes.
Yep.
And Yeah, we help people poweron with the sun power off
addictive technology, and wealso help people with power
through life with relationshipsbecause everything, all
relationships start with you.
And that's what we're all about.
Absolutely.
It's been a pleasure to have youon the medical truth podcast,
Roman, and we'll get your wifeon with you and we'll discuss
(49:26):
insomnia.
This won't be the first nor thelast podcast with you and your
wife, hopefully.
So I look forward to that.
Thank you so much for your timeon the medical truth podcast.
Roman Shapoval (49:40):
Thank you.
Thank you, James, for everythingyou do.
And thank you to the listeners.
Feel free to reach out to meanytime info at the power
couple.
ca subscribe to our sub stack.
And thank you so much forlistening.
James Egidio (49:52):
Absolutely.
Thank you.
Thanks.
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