EP202: Dr. Mark Unmasked

Podcast Title: "Dr. Mark  Unmasked"

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Episode Transcript

(01:10):
OK, well, welcome back to another episode of Mckill's
Death Chronicles. I have a guest today by the name
of Mark, who is a retired dentist, and he is also a
biblical cosmologist. So we have here an actual Doctor
Who believes in Flat Earth. So are you there?

(01:33):
Mark? Can you hear me?
All right. Yeah, yeah, Kenny, I can hear
you just fine. Thanks for having me on the
show. No problem, no problem.
Well, I'm not sure exactly how we ended up getting to know each
other or meeting. Was it through X is where we
kind of got to communicating? I can't, I can't really
remember. I actually bought your book, The

(01:56):
Flat Earth Bible, and I enjoyed it so much.
I think that's probably what started the the initial contact.
I reached out to you after reading that book and I started
a community on X called Flat Earth Bible and you were my very
first invite and you were the very first person to join.

(02:17):
That's right. That's right.
My wife was second. Well, so, so when I guess when
it comes to Flat Earth, obviously you know, lots of
people don't believe anything that it has to do with the
Bible, but obviously you do, which is which is a plus because

(02:37):
you know, I get a lot of, or I have interviewed people before
who they believe in Flat Earth, but they don't have any
biblical, they don't want to relate it to the Bible at all.
Yeah, and for, for me, that was,that was really when, when I
started looking into it, I, one of the first things I wanted to
know is what does God say about it?

(02:59):
And I've read, you know, I've read the Bible cover cover many
times, multiple, multiple times.And I'd always when I read these
verses, I'd always just kind of had that globe model in my mind.
And, and so when I, when I started looking into Flat Earth
and, and really started seeing some, some things that didn't

(03:21):
add up from a science point of view as well, then, you know, I
want to say what, what does God have to say about?
And I started rereading these scriptures and they just jumped
out at me. They just, I'm like, wow, it's
where it's been there all the time.
I just had blinders on. I had a veil that I just
couldn't see it because like everybody, I've been programmed
from, from, you know, a young child and through 20 years of

(03:44):
school, you know, all the, you know, all the indoctrination of,
of globe, globe, globe. And so, you know, I first
started hearing about Flat Earthback in the late 70s at, at
Virginia Tech where I went to undergrad, I took AI, got a
degree in biology from there before I went on the dental

(04:04):
school. And, you know, I just kind of
blew it off. I just thought, you know, that's
kind of crazy. You know, I'm, I'm a man of
science, you know, math and science were my forte's and, and
so I never really gave it much. I never really looked into it.
I'll put it that way. Never, you know, just kind of
dismissed it right off the bat. But then once I started looking

(04:26):
into it, I'm like, oh, I'm the one that's been deceived.
I can definitely agree with that.
That's kind of same thing. Of course, I've, you know, been
taught the globe my whole entirelife and been indoctrinated by
Hollywood and all the movies, you know, and it wasn't until

(04:49):
here recently, a guy had asked me about it and I of course,
immediately dismissed it. But something just started
eating on me at that point. And I think it was, I personally
think it was the Holy Spirit. I think what it was is, you
know, I believe that, you know, obviously God is not going to
put anything on you you can't handle.
And I don't think he's going to present anything to you in depth

(05:12):
if you're too dumb to believe itnecessarily.
And I think I was probably too dumb at that point to to believe
it. So, you know, never really came
up. And then at the point where my
mind was finally ready to acceptit, boom, it was dropped on me.
And then it was just like, how have I missed this?
You know, how have I missed all these Bible verses this whole

(05:33):
time? You know, I've been through two
different degrees in seminary and all I'm doing is studying
the Bible. You know, it's biblical.
You know, studying is all you'redoing and just right over my
head. You know, and of course nobody
in seminary ever talks about anyof those verses.
They just kind of skip over them.
You know, they don't, they don'tmention any of that stuff.

(05:55):
And you know, it's just never, it's never mentioned.
So once I actually went back andread it, I was like, wow, I've
how, how did I miss this? But you know, I think it was
finally given to me. I was able to, I was given the
discernment to be able to understand it.
Prior to that, I would have never believed it.
Well, I, I kind of agree with what you're saying there.

(06:18):
I think the Lord does reveal things to us at different points
in our life when we, when, you know, when we're ready, we're
ready to receive it. And I, I really believe that as
you pursue the Lord, as you pursue Jesus Christ and the mind
of Christ, that he starts revealing more and more to you.

(06:39):
And so I, I'm very thankful he pulled the bell back from my
eyes concerning the cosmology of, of this universe.
And once you see it, you, you, you start to realize that, you
know, it's one of their foundational lies that they
build all the other lies off of.And so they, they get that in

(07:01):
place at a very early age. And just like, you know, you
were mentioning the, the sci-fi genre, that's been one of my
favorite genres. I mean, you know, all the space
stuff and space travel and all that sideline.
And so once you get that, they get that foundational lie in
place, then then they can build their other lies like The Big

(07:21):
Bang evolution. You know, they can make you,
they can make you start to doubtthe Bible.
Because you know, once you, you,you look at very first chapter
of Genesis and God tells you what he did, tells you what he
did. And if you start doubting that,
and then you go, well, you know,what else should I doubt in the
Bible? Because, you know, I mean, I,

(07:41):
I've heard some godly men say, say this now.
I mean godly men that, that I know are saved.
They, you know, they've probablyforgotten more about the Bible
than I'll ever know. I'm, I'm serious.
And, and they, they say, well, you know, the, the Bible's real
clear that the, you know, it's aFlat Earth and, you know, it's,
it's real clear about that. And that, you know, there's a

(08:02):
Dome over the earth and it's called a firmament in the Bible.
But you know, they, they, when they, when the Bible was
written, they just didn't have science back then.
So they're just wrong about that.
And, you know, science is right.And, and I'm like, I'm like, you
know, I, I don't, I don't. The disconnect is because the
programming is so ingrained in US and, and we and we all fall

(08:25):
for it. I mean, you know, I mean,
there's very few people that hadn't.
And I don't know if any of that didn't fall for it.
That and so and, but, and some of them can never break it, no
matter, no matter what. They're just so in, you know,
trusting, you know, trusting thescience as we, you know, that's
what you know, exactly and wherewe've heard trusting the science

(08:47):
also lately, you know, with the vaccines and all that stuff,
right? And that's starting to unwrite,
that's starting to unravel on them as well.
Yeah, yeah, I'll, I'll be glad when that actually fully
unravels, if it ever does. But yeah, I've been on the
vaccine thing. Same thing, you know, they're,
yeah, these are the same guys. Is, is, is, is like I've told

(09:08):
people, of course I've been to these different, different
events, birthday parties, whatever, where, you know,
there's some Christian people there and they're grown
Christian people should be very,you know, very well into the
Bible. They should know the Bible.
And it's same thing. They're like, well, you know, I
know the Flat Earth thing and you'll try to show it to them.

(09:28):
And they're like, well, you know, I just, I just don't
believe it. I think that these guys were so
dumb back then that, you know, they just, they just didn't
understand. And it's like, no, wait a
second. I thought you thought that the
Bible was, you know, inspired bythe Holy Spirit.
This is a God breathed document.Oh, it is.
It is. OK.
So you don't think God knows what he did?

(09:49):
You think God made an error and didn't explain it right?
But NASA came along in 1958 and they cleared it all up for you.
Is that what you're telling me? So you don't believe God's word.
You believe Wernher von Braun from the Nazi Germany, who you
know, is a Pagan occultist. You believe him and NASA, but

(10:10):
you don't believe God's word. Oh, no, I believe God.
Well, apparently you don't. And So what we'll do is I'll
say, well, now you now you realize that they're like, well,
you know, schools teach this, that, you know, we've been
taught this. OK, so let's think about
something for a second. When you go to school, they also
teach The Big Bang theory. Now do you believe The Big Bang

(10:30):
theory? I say, Oh no, no, I don't
believe that. You know, I believe that God
created everything. OK, so science is telling you
it's a Big Bang, but you don't believe it.
You believe the Bible. OK, so do you believe in
evolution? That we came from monkeys and
gnats and, you know, fish turnedinto, you know, your the gills
came up and you know you do believe that?

(10:51):
No, absolutely not. God made man and woman.
OK, so you don't believe the scientists there?
Well, all this is is another piece of their satanic puzzle
that they're teaching. But you do believe it, and I
don't understand why. Why are you not believing what
they say here? You believe in the Bible, but

(11:11):
whenever we get into the spinning globe, you're bought
and sold. But the Bible doesn't teach that
either. And you're believing the same
people that are teaching you that there's more than two
genders. You know, I mean, we know
there's male and female, but they're claiming now that men
can have babies and men can have, you know, menstrual cycles

(11:32):
and stuff. We know that's not true, OK.
But that's what they're teachingnow.
Do you believe that as well? I mean, you believe in the same
people. You see what I'm saying?
No, it's very, very that it justshows you how strong that that
programming is for people. And it's listen, I, it's, it's a

(11:52):
tough one that I just, you know,it's, I realized people are
going to come along at their their pace on it.
Some some are going to never break it.
They're going to never get it. And then others are on, you
know, they're on a different process on it.
And yeah, all you can do is share with them and, you know,
and let them let them know. And, and, and then it's kind of

(12:14):
like when you share Jesus with someone.
I mean, you know, we're pretty firm on, you know, Jesus is the
only way to heaven, the only wayfor salvation is the way, the
truth and life. And, and so you share that with
them. And, you know, people choose not
to believe that, too. Oh yeah.
Oh, I know. You know, it's everybody's going

(12:36):
to pretty much believe what theywant to believe.
And, you know, and then, you know, some people know
everything and they just don't want to hear it because they
know it all already, right? And I always say, you know,
it's, you know, I say it jokingly, but you know, it's
kind of, it's really true too. It's like, you know, hey, nobody
listens to me. I'm used to it.
Right, right. Well, yeah.

(13:00):
It just always amazed me that, you know, I have somebody that I
know that we were talking about this here recently and it's it's
just weird how so many people believe so many weird things.
And so, you know, the subject ofthe Bible comes up and this
guy's like, well, I believe thatthe Bible, this was his exact
quote was written by feeble minded men.

(13:23):
That's who it was written by. It's a man made book written by
feeble minded men that don't know what's going on.
Now, you know, apparently this person has no clue that these
books were written literally hundreds and thousands of years
apart. Some of them, but they all line
up. They all say the same thing.
You know, nobody, nobody could even fathom, you know, me

(13:46):
handing you a piece of paper andsaying write your thoughts down
and here I'm going to make up some stuff.
We're both feeble minded men andwe don't know each other, but
our stories add up perfectly andthat, you know, and we lived
1000 years apart from each other.
It's just ridiculous. Right.
So it, so it doesn't believe that the Bible's real, but then
turns around and says, now I know I'm saved.

(14:10):
I'm like, you know, you're saved.
Oh, absolutely, I'm saved. And it's like, well, what are
you basing that off? If you don't believe the Bible's
real? I mean, isn't that where you're
getting the salvation plan is from the Bible?
But if you don't believe the Bible, why would you believe
you're saved? I I don't understand that and
then turns around and says, well, I don't believe in the

(14:32):
Bible, but if I believed in the Bible, the Bible clearly teaches
a Flat Earth, but I don't believe in Flat Earth because I
don't believe in the Bible. But I'm saved.
Well, OK, that's I'm, I'm, I'm glad, I'm glad you bought that
up because I mean, let's, let's,let's pursue that a second.
So I I'm not, I don't know what this guy believed, but what

(14:55):
God's requirements are for salvation.
But can you tell me what you believe God's requirements for
salvation are? Well, obviously, if I understand
it right, you know, you have to believe that there is a God.
You have to believe in Jesus Christ.
You have to believe that Jesus Christ is God made flesh.
You have to believe that Jesus Christ died and rose again, you

(15:18):
know, on the cross and he died for your sins.
He shed his blood to, you know, atone for your sins.
You have to believe in that and put your faith in Jesus Christ
that you are a Sinner. You can't do anything without
him forgiving your sins. I mean, it's a free gift to
salvation and you ask him for itand say, will you please save

(15:42):
me? You know, and believe it.
And then, you know, you're basically saved at that point.
Then you can try to, you know, try to do the right thing after
that, once you're saved, doing the right thing, trying to get
saved isn't going to get you saved because it's that just
works. But basically you, you go to, in

(16:02):
my opinion, you get on your on your knees and pray to Jesus
Christ and ask him into your heart and ask him to save you
and he will. That that is the correct answer.
And, you know, it's, it's nice to hear the correct answer
because I, you know, when I ask people that question, I and
Kenny I, I mean, I'm talking about people that, you know,

(16:24):
warm the Pew up for decades in the church, you know, people
that, you know, should know better.
And, you know, a lot of times they'll kind of give some lip
service to Jesus and go, Oh yeah, Jesus and I go anything
else. And, and then I start saying,
yeah, well, you know, you got tobe a good person and, you know,
you got to pray and you got to go to church and you got to be
good to the poor. And, you know, they, they start
giving me this laundry list in addition to Jesus and, and I'm

(16:49):
like, you know, I'm like, well, that's a, you know, very common
answer. A lot of people answer like
that. But you know, then I'll ask
them, you want to know what God says.
And what you just said is what God says and.
That's what the Bible says. That's what the Bible says.
That's and that's where we get it from.
We get it from the Bible. And that's how, that's how we,
we know, I mean, we know that's God's word and, and we know it's

(17:10):
the truth. And, and you know, you were
mentioning the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit bears witness in us.
That is the truth that resonateswith us.
And I, you know, I think that's a, it's a revelation.
But the, the, what you just say that's a revelation and that,
you know, when you're truly saved, you get that, that
revelation, that, that epiphany.And, and you're glad to share

(17:32):
that with people. I mean, you want to share it
with people and you want other people to, to know that
knowledge, to know that truth aswell.
And whenever I, whenever I ask someone that question and they
get all uncomfortable and say, well, you know, I really don't
want to talk about that, then then I'm, I know I'm like, well,
they're not saved. Yes, you're saved.

(17:52):
If you, if you know, you want, you know, you're more than glad
to talk about it. It's when you, when you're not
saved, you don't want to talk about it makes you very
uncomfortable. I've had people just, you know,
I mean, I'm talking to friends of mine, people I get along
great with and a lot of time with, and they're just like I, I
just, I don't want to talk aboutthat.
It just makes me uncomfortable. Right.

(18:14):
Well, I, yeah, I've written thatdown.
I've got what I call the ABC's of salvation where real simple,
kind of, you know, of course, obviously I say on there, you
know, no prayer per SE. You know, you can't just repeat
something you read and boom, you're saved.
You have to believe this stuff. You know, you can repeat
anything, I think, and not believe it and it's not going to
account is what I think. I mean, so, you know, you the

(18:38):
first, you know, you used to admit you're a Sinner.
You know, I mean, there's a lot of people that won't admit that
they don't admit they're sinners.
Like I'm not a Sinner. And it's like, you're not a
Sinner. They're like, Oh no, I'm not a
Sinner. You know, I, I don't cuss and I
don't drink. And I'm like, you're a Sinner,
OK. You were born a Sinner and
you're a Sinner. And I've listened to a lot of
good, you know, stuff from like,Peter Ruckman, some of the older

(19:00):
preachers, you know, that talk about that stuff where, you
know, where these people are saying they're not this and
they're not that. And he's like, well, have you
ever thought about another womanever?
You know? Well, yeah.
It's like, well, you're an adulterer.
It's like, well, I've never committed adultery.
It's like, yeah, but you thoughtabout it.
Jesus says if you even think about it, you've done it.

(19:21):
You're an adulterer. And you know, you even think bad
thoughts about your brother overhere or somebody.
Now you're a murderer. You know, we know you're a liar.
Everybody's told a lie. So so why should I believe you
Now you're you've already admitted you're a liar and told
her and a murderer. I mean, well, good are you?
I mean, all those sins you've done warrant death.

(19:41):
And the only way you're able going to to get rid of those
sins is if you know, if you're washed in Jesus Christ blood,
you know, he shed his blood for you.
Course you're going to have to ask for it.
You know, you I mean, if you don't say, Hey, come save me or
will you please save me or come into my heart or whatever you
want to say. I mean how?
And see, that's another thing. Another guy I listen to or have

(20:02):
listened to, he doesn't believe you have to.
Ask. Jesus Christ, he doesn't believe
getting on your knees and saying, dear Lord, please save
me. He he doesn't.
He thinks that's a work and I've, I've never understood that
either. He, he thinks you just that
salvation is dangling out there and God has it like this

(20:22):
dangling and all you have to do is think in your mind, I'll take
it, You're offering it, I'll take it.
I don't have to ask. I don't have to do anything.
I just take it. What do you think about that?
Oh, yeah, I think we definitely have to acknowledge and confess
that Jesus Christ is our Lord, our Savior and our King.

(20:46):
And so, yeah, no, it's, it's, it's all based on the person of
Jesus Christ who was, you know, fully God, fully man and is
fully God, fully man. And he, he is definitely, you
know, it's, it's all about Jesus.
And so, yeah. And I, I had a good friend of
mine too, that he told me, he told me one day and it just, it

(21:09):
just blew me away. He goes, he goes, yeah, I'm not
a Sinner. I'm I don't, I've never sinned
right. And I'm, you know, you know, I
wasn't going to argue with him about it because, you know, you
know that that's not going to accomplish anything.
But I'm like, I'm like Bill withI'm like where the Bible says
there's not one righteous, not even one.

(21:30):
And all of our righteousness as a man is as a filthy rag to God.
I mean, that's not far away we are from God's righteousness.
So without, without the cleansing blood of Jesus Christ,
you know, we, we don't, we don'thave a prayer.
We, we're made righteous by whatwhat Christ did for us on the
cross, shedding his blood. And that's, that's where our

(21:53):
righteousness is. And that's the only way that
we're going to have righteousness and be
righteousness by by putting all of our faith in Jesus,
confessing his name, the Lord and Savior and, and, and it's
daily believing too. You know, I believe in believing
loyalty each day. I mean, we, we have to get up
each day and choose to put all of our faith in Jesus and then

(22:16):
we got to continue to believe inJesus.
And I, I think as long as we continue to put all of our trust
and faith in Jesus, you will continue to be saved.
And if you ever stop putting your faith and trust in Jesus,
you will not be saved. It's that's for me.
It's that simple. I don't know my knees, you know,

(22:36):
every day saying, you know, Lord, it's, it's, it's you're,
you're my king, you're you're mysavior, you're my Lord.
And, and thank you for it, you know, give thanks to God and be
grateful. And so, yeah, no, it's it's
interesting that that you know what, what some people choose to

(22:56):
believe. And it really comes down for me.
Can it comes down to a choice. We, we have to choose to believe
Jesus. We have to choose and it's, you
know, he got made a sovereign and, and he did that for a
reason. We're not robots.
He doesn't force us to love him.He, he loves us first, even even
when before we were even saved, he loved us when we were yet

(23:19):
sinners. The Bible tells us he, he loves
us and so he loves us first, butwe have to choose.
That's a choice and that's, you know, that's, that's kind of a
tough one for some people because, you know, there's a lot
man, man is very prideful, very arrogant and, and man wants to,
wants to earn it. You know, he wants to pay for it

(23:40):
in some way. He wants to feel like, Oh, well,
you know, I'm, I'm going to do this and then you owe me this
because I did this. And you know, I'm, I'm going to
get into heaven because, you know, I deserve to go to heaven
because my works, you know, I'm,you know, and the Lord says,
Hey, man, you're going to come to me that day and, and, and I'm
going to say, hey, apart from mefor I never knew you.

(24:02):
So those works aren't going to get anybody in.
I don't care. You know who you are, how what
you're doing. You know how how wonderful you
think you are. He says all of our righteousness
is as a filthy rat. So, so it's, it's really kind of
getting on your knees and, you know, bowing before Jesus on the

(24:24):
throne. And you know, that's another
thing he says, he says, you know, he says one day every knee
will bow, every tongue will confess.
That's going to be a glorious day.
Yes it will. I'm looking forward to that one,
man. That'll be I guess that'll be a.
Great hope in that. That takes great hope in that
scripture. Yeah, I guess that'll that'll

(24:45):
have to be at the White Throne judgment, I guess.
Yeah, it's, yes, it's well, you know, a lot of people think, you
know, man's going to come in and, you know, you know, and,
and save the world somehow or, you know, and, and no man's not
going to save the world. Only Jesus saves this world.
And until Jesus comes back and rules, this world's not going to

(25:05):
be right. No, no.
And yeah, a lot of people, of course, you know, Republican,
Democrat, that whole deal, a lotof people, you know, Trump
obviously is in office for now and he's doing stuff that this
other regime we had the Biden's or whatever, you know what they
wouldn't do. So I mean, he appears, a lot of
the stuff he's doing seems really great.

(25:27):
And you know, it's make America great again, the whole 9 yards.
And I'm all for it. However, I also know though,
that the Bible talks about, you know, we're getting close to the
end times and it's going to wax worse and worse.
It doesn't ever get better and the at least the Bible doesn't
say so. OK, the Bible tells you what's

(25:48):
going to happen and it's lookinglike we're pretty close to the
end times, OK. And you know, and Trump, he, you
know, maybe he's being used, maybe he doesn't know, I don't
know. But you know, he's, if he brings
in the peace that it talks aboutthe seven years of peace and he
gets that temple built over there in Jerusalem.

(26:14):
You know, we've got to have thattemple built and a peace treaty
signed before the Antichrist cancome in.
And that's what the Bible says. You know, they'll be 7 years of
false peace done by the Antichrist.
They're going to build that temple 3 1/2 years into that
temple. You know, the abomination of
desolation is going to come out and, you know, take over, which

(26:35):
is, and basically that's when the mark of the beast is
implemented. So we have to have a temple and
we have to have that stuff in place for that to happen.
And I was reading the other day,they're talking about Trump
talking about that temple and they're wanting to start
building on that temple here real soon.
And it's like, well, it may be getting really close to the end

(26:56):
in my opinion. Well, you know, it's a scripture
that hit me really hard one day and not, you know, I was reading
my Bible and just like what you were saying there, you know, the
look at the signs. But what, what really jumped out
at me is Jesus said, you know, when, when they're saying peace

(27:18):
and safety, that's when I'm going to return.
What is peace and safety? And you know, I concur with you.
I mean, when you look at the, you know, the, the last four
years of the regime and then youlook at what's happening now.
I mean, I like what's happening now a lot better, OK, a lot
better. But but yeah, man's not going to

(27:39):
fix this stuff. It's not going to be fixed by
man. And so it's, it's going to be
fixed when Jesus comes back. So, So what, what you just said,
it's very interesting because it's, it's when they're saying
peace and safety is when Jesus returns.
And, and, and you know, and if you read the scripture too, I
mean, it's, you made a good point too on this.

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It's that if you look at what the scripture says, the world
doesn't get better. It whacks us worse and worse.
It gets worse, you know, and youknow, if what I can see, I mean,
you know, you just look what they did with the, the COVID
vaccine recently. You know, I think they, they got

(28:21):
that into over 5 billion people.You know, they, they murdered
millions of them. They disabled millions more and
they've harmed many millions more because one of the things
that vaccine does is destroys your immune system.
And once you destroy the immune system or harm the immune
system, then you know, there's a, you know, there's a hundred

(28:41):
different ways that you know, you can go downhill.
And so, so I mean, if I look at what they've done with the
vaccine and how they're screaming MRA vaccines now, it's
going to wax worse and worse. Now it's, it's not going to get
better. And, and, and, and people just
like people can't break the programming on the globe Earth.

(29:03):
You know, I mean, and you know, I mean, I mean, let me think
about this, OK? The, the, the, the heliocentric
model, the globe Earth model says this Earth is spinning.
It's a round ball spinning at 1037 mph while it's rotating the
sun at 66,600 mph. And yet our atmosphere stays

(29:30):
intact. There's painter on it.
It just somehow magically stays intact by this magical force
called gravity, You know, while we're moving at these incredible
speeds, spinning and revolving around the sun.
And and people believe that. I mean, they believe that.
And and just like they, they're going to choose to believe, you

(29:51):
know, safe and effective that, you know, I can't, I can't
believe they would give me something that would harm me.
And there's going to be many that can they, they just can't
break the program that, you know, they're going to go and
their doctor's going to say, oh,you need this.
And their pharmacists are going to go, oh, you need this.
And, you know, their healthcare workers going to go, oh, you

(30:13):
need that. And they're going to go, OK, you
know, jab me up. And it's, you know, starting to
unravel on them. But unfortunately there's,
there's still people that they they still believe the
programming. They still believe the safe and
effective narrative. Right.
Yeah. Well, and I understand during

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the beginning of a lot of that, you know, all of the social
media platforms were all basically locked down where you
couldn't you couldn't speak of it.
You couldn't you couldn't say anything to the contrary.
You couldn't even say, hey, can I take a vitamin, vitamins, get
out, you know, And so at least like now an X, for example, and
supposedly Facebook's opening up, I don't know if it really

(30:56):
is, but you know, people on X are talking all about it.
And you can see where, you know,people are coming out like the
president of Kenya, you know, and is wanting to make Gates
liable for the stuff he's done over there.
They figured out that a whole bunch of them, not even not even
COVID related in these other vaccines have sterilized a whole
bunch of women and cost all kinds of stuff.

(31:18):
And so now they're wanting to get him over there in court and
get him liable for it. And he should be.
I mean, he's not a doctor. He's, I mean, you know, he's
just some, he's not, he doesn't even have a degree in anything.
He's just something to do with money.
And so he's pushing these vaccines and people are
following through with it and doing it, dying, I mean, dying
like flies. And he just sits back with a big

(31:38):
smirk on his face. No, that's very, very, very
true. And not yeah, I've I've been
following that. And yeah, I hope there is some
some justice that is done. I mean, you really do want to
see some of these people held accountable.
And you know, I saw this cute, cute meme this morning on it was

(32:00):
on X and and I was a doctor talking to her patient and she,
the patient's going, oh, so, so,so I have complete immunity now
after I've had this vaccine and the doctor's going, oh, yeah.
And they go, no, wait, no, wait a minute.
No, that's Pouchy that has complete immunity.
You have myocarditis. Right I.

(32:23):
Mean that's all you know, sometimes the truth is the
funniest right? And it's like, you know, so
they're, you know, they, they'retrying to run interference to,
you know, to protect these guys,right, to protect them from,
from any kind of justice. And so I'm, I'm hoping, I'm
hoping some, you know, there'll be, there'll be some pursuit of
justice in the world and that we'll get some of these guys

(32:46):
shut down that are just there. I mean, they're just killing
millions and disabling millions and harming a lot more.
And you know, the, the studies are out there and you know that
the documentation is out there. And, and fortunately, like you
mentioned, Kenya, there are someleaders waking up and going,
hey, this is wrong. And we need some accountability

(33:08):
for them. And so hopefully, I, I hope we
see more of that. You know, thank goodness we've
got X to where you can get some of this, this info out because
it's just like with the, with the, you know, the, the Flat
Earth, the just, you know, some of these platforms would just
lock the stuff down so fast. I mean, you, you step out of

(33:32):
lockstep with what, what the official narrative is, you know,
what they're pushing in the mainstream media and through
government and through through education, through, you know,
through schools, colleges, universities, you know,
magazines, newspapers, television, you step out of line
just a little bit and they just your accounts gone.

(33:54):
And you know, for some people, Imean, it was like that was their
livelihood. You know, that's they were
making enough money to pay theirbills and that's what they
depended on. And then they speak a little
truth and then all of a sudden their accounts taken away.
And I, you know, I remember I used to, I haven't used Facebook

(34:15):
on a serious matter for many, many, many years because this,
this was, I don't know, that's probably 3-4 years ago now, but
I, I had repost it from the surgeon general of the state of
Florida. He came out with, you know, said
something about the COVID vaccine, right?
Man, I'm like, well, that's true.
I just, you know, that's the surgeon general of Florida

(34:36):
posted that. So I already posted it on
Facebook. They put me in Facebook jail for
three days. I said, well, you know, yeah,
we're pretty much done. You know, I mean, I'll post some
food pictures up on it or something of my wife's cooking
or something. You know, as far as trying to
get any of my news feed off of Facebook.
No, I mean that that that platform, they just they

(34:59):
destroyed that platform as as far as I'm concerned with their
censoring and their lockdown of information.
So I'm I'm hoping XI mean X right now is, you know, for, for
what I can see is there they're allowing some free speech right
now. I don't know how long that'll
last. You know, that bubble could bust
at any times or they just say, OK, enough, That's all of it.

(35:21):
You know, we're we're done with the free speech stuff.
When you know, now you have to, you know, you have to step in
line with the official narrative.
But I don't, you know, I'm hoping it'll go on for a while
because I think, I think X is, is getting some info out, you
know, and I encourage people to get on X and just, I'm like
just, you know, pursue for yourself.
You find new seeds you like and stuff that you resonate with

(35:45):
and, and, and, you know, try to,you know, get some real
information versus, you know, what you're getting on CNN and
these mainstream media channels.You're not sorry, but you just,
you're just not going to get it.There, no, you're definitely not
going to get anything on any mainstream anything, that's for

(36:05):
sure. No, and it's sad that, but
people kind of trust that stuff still.
Again, it's the programming that, you know, we, we grew up
with all you know, that that these news anchors wouldn't lie
to us. Oh, Oh yes they will.
If. They want their job.
They will. Yeah, I've seen, I've seen
several videos on that when something, you know, something

(36:28):
came out on whatever it was has the vaccine or whatever and
somebody had went through and went to every single one of them
and they all parroted the same exact, I mean they had the same
line. It's like somebody wrote out
like a three line sentence to say and verbatim every single
network worldwide. The first thing they say is that

(36:49):
three line, you know, like such and such today, you know, and
this is what you need to do and it and it was the exact same
thing across all networks. And it's like, well, obviously
somebody is feeding them the information and they're just
regurgitating it. They're not telling you any of
their own personal thoughts. They have a script to go by.
Somebody is supplying all of them with the same script.

(37:12):
So they just repeat it. They might change the words a
little bit, you know, because they're, you know, in their own
words. But it's the same thing.
So yeah, you, you can't believe a word, a word they say somebody
it. Truly is coordinated.
And when you look at the behind the scenes, it's, you know, it's

(37:32):
a few major corporations controlling all of that media.
And so it's real easy for them to coordinate it because they
just go, Hey, here's what you'regoing to say.
And if you step out of line, I mean, I think that's what
happened to Tucker. You know, Tucker, you know, he's
a little bit of a, a lone wolf there.
You know, thank God he is because I love, I love how he'll

(37:54):
go after him sometimes. And, you know, and I think he
just, you know, they finally just said even though that, you
know, he was their most popular host, they got rid of him
because, you know, he just, he just stepped out of a line from
the official narrative a little too far.
And and then, you know, they're just like, you know, we can't
have that. And and so, you know, I'm glad

(38:15):
he's doing his own deal and seems to be very successful,
very successful at it. And you know, again, it's just
another, you know, another voiceout there.
Not that I agree with everythingTucker says by any stretch, but
again, you know, it's just one more voice of trying to get some
info out there to the people. And I, you know, there's,

(38:37):
there's there's good ways like, you know, like these podcasts,
like what you're doing here. It's it's certainly helpful.
The the X is is extremely helpful.
I like like even platforms like Rumble, they tend to allow more
than like YouTube. I detest YouTube just because
they censor so much. You know, I mean, sometimes you

(38:59):
can't get away from YouTube justbecause there's so much content
on their content creators still use that.
But but still, if, if I can, if I can avoid YouTube and and get
it on rumble, I go to rumble because I want platforms that
aren't censoring and are lettingpeople say what they want to say
without going, Oh no, you, you can't say that.

(39:22):
You, you know, the vaccines are safe and effective.
And if you say they're not, Bam,we'll shut you down.
And I knew one account I was following.
This was a guy they, they prettymuch financed their whole deal.
I mean, you know, he was for he,you know, got away from his job,
went full time with the podcast and all, and, and he was on

(39:44):
YouTube and they just shut him down one day just boom.
And he was, he's making like 65,000 a month.
So, you know, he had, he had some followers and you know,
he's getting enough years to work.
You know, YouTube's paying him 65,000 a month.
They just shut him down. So he goes from what to do, what
to say, Oh, we're not telling you that.

(40:04):
They literally just said, Oh, we, we, we don't have to tell
you why we shut you down. We just shut you down.
So anyway, he got a lawyer and threatened to sue him and they
put him back up and, you know, gave him his back pay.
Wow, Yeah, I don't. But that's what he had to do,
you know, he had to have the money to, you know, to, you
know, get a high-powered lawyer and go, OK, that's the way

(40:25):
you're going to play it. Then I'm going to go after you
for millions and millions and millions of damages.
And then YouTube goes, oh, you know, OK.
No, you're fine. No.
Yeah. Your channel's back up.
Wow. Well, just just a few things
we've said here today, just if you even mention the word
vaccine, we've already said it several times.

(40:47):
If this audio portion goes to YouTube, I will immediately get
a notification that says it was removed.
So it's anything I found out, anything on mine, that's if
vaccine is mentioned at any way,shape, form or fashion, it's
immediately, immediately kicked off.
So yeah, there the the level they're doing it is way back

(41:10):
still, you know, the same as theFacebook and everybody was doing
it, you know, in the COVID days.I mean, they don't want you,
don't want you to mention anything.
So, and it's probably not even ahuman that's actually screened
for it's. Probably AI.
Yeah, it's probably AI. The AI program catches the word
and just goes boom and just deletes you in a millisecond

(41:32):
without even a second thought. And, and so that's one thing
that really concerns me about AIis that, you know, they can use
it to really lock in this surveillance state right to
where, you know, they, they can monitor every basically every
word you're saying pretty much instantaneously, I mean, in, in
real time. And and so, so I think it can

(41:58):
be, you know, it could be a double edged sword for, for
humanity is that they could use AI against us.
You know, it's, it's like that old Terminator movies, you know,
with Skynet. Exactly.
I think they're calling this Stargate now.
They're calling Stargate, that'spretty close to Skynet, but they
probably should just called the Skynet really.

(42:19):
And so, well, you know. They like their, they like their
star. They like their star stuff,
right? You know, hey, we're, we got
probes on Mars and we're going to, we're going to colonize Mars
someday. And yeah, we're going to put a
colony on the moon too. And, you know, they, they just
all this stuff, it's like their narrative is so important for

(42:40):
them because that's where they, you know, it's, it's, it's the
foundational lies. And I was just, I was listening
to a feed on X in the last day or so.
And it was saying that the, theywere going after, you know,
Bobby Kennedy and they were saying that Robert Kennedy and

(43:04):
they were saying, Hey, you know,that this science is all
settled. And, you know, and you just,
you're, you know, you got to admit that it's settled science.
And of course it won't because it's not settled at all.
But but you know, that's, that'skind of how they attack.
They try to go, oh, the science is settled.
No, it's not. And you know, vaccines are
causing a lot of damage to people.

(43:24):
And that's another thing I really hope that that unravels
on them more and more as well, because they're really, they're
really harming. They're actually killing a lot
of kids. They're just pumping so much,
poisoning them, you know, right from birth.
I mean, I mean, within as soon as they're born, they're
starting to hit them with these poisons now and then.

(43:44):
And then I was looking at the schedule, you know, but by the
time that they're 18, you know, they, they've gotten like 80
some shots and they're just pumping so many poisons in them.
They do these well visits and, you know, these mothers will
take these healthy kids in and they'll pump them with these
vaccines. And then they, you know, within
hours, sometimes, I mean literally hours, the kids are,

(44:05):
are sick and some of them are dead and, and then you're
disabled for life. And so anyway, I'm, I'm hoping
that unravels on them as well, because it's, it's time, it's
time for the truth to get out there.
And I, I like what what Bobby's saying is like, you know, we
just need transparency and then let people choose, you know,
let's get the info out there. Let's let them see it.

(44:28):
And then the parents can decide whether they want to vaccinate
or not. He's like, I'm not against
vaccines. I just want transparency.
I just want to get the info out there.
And I, I think that's kind of how I see it with a lot of this
stuff. It's like, you know, yeah.
I mean, I don't want to tell youwhat you got to do.
I don't want to tell you you can't vaccinate your child.
I think it's a that idea, but I don't want to, I don't want to

(44:49):
say you can't do that what I want to.
I want you to have some informedconsent and then you can decide.
And it's the same way with the, the with the Flat Earth, with
the, you know, stationary flat plain earth.
It just, I just want you to havesome info.
And that's that's why I started Flat Earth Bible and that's why
I appreciate your book so much. The Flat Earth Bible is because

(45:13):
it just give people the info andthen let them decide.
Oh OK, that makes sense to me. You know, I choose to believe
that or you know, that's a bunchof nonsense.
I choose not to believe that, and that's OK.
Yeah, I mean that's that's the whole point just.
Yeah, it's my, my dad. He had some, yeah, one of his,

(45:35):
he had a lot of really good sayings, but one of them was
that I really appreciate and I always keep on.
I said, son, it takes all kinds to fill the highways.
You know, everybody's different.You know, people think
different. We don't all think alike.
And you know, we have different and it's OK.
It's OK that we think different.We don't all have to think
alike. But we do need to build exchange

(45:57):
ideas. We need do need to build a share
information and clamp down. If we get censored, if we get
muzzled, then that's when it gets scary because then then
just, you know, the state, the government, the control
apparatus can just, you know, they can pretty much just
dominate the narrative. And it was interesting to me.

(46:18):
It was, this was, you know, months ago.
But, you know, I was looking at some of the, some of the feeds
from, you know, the regime that was in power at that time and,
and their supporters and they were literally saying stuff
like, we, you know, we, we can't, we can't have really free
speech. We can't let just people say

(46:39):
anything because we'll lose control of the narrative.
Right. And that's what they were saying
that I mean, just, I mean, I mean, they weren't even ashamed
to say that. They were like proud that, oh,
this is what we have to do. We have to muzzle you because
we'll lose control of the narrative.

(47:05):
Yeah, it's unbelievable. The it's it's the same as AI.
You know, they're they're talking a lot about how good AI
is and you know, I think AI is good for some things.
And I had posted what did I postit on?
It was probably on XI Think or maybe I said it on a podcast
that, you know, yeah, I was talking about Stargate and said,

(47:27):
you know, AI is only as good as whoever programmed it.
So if you have a programmer thatsays, you know what, I'm an
atheist. I don't believe in God, I hate
God. I don't believe in Flat Earth.
I hate Flat Earth and I hate anybody that has anything to do
with it. But I'm the programmer.
And so now I'm selling this AI software, whatever.

(47:50):
So I get on the AI software and now I want it to do some
punctuation for me regarding Flat Earth.
Well, this is no, I'm, I'm not doing that because you know,
it'll pop up an error and say you're trying to write out a
statement that's false and we know it's false.
And so we're not even going to punctuate it for you.

(48:10):
We're not going to check the punctuation on this crap.
So, and that happened to me on Grammarly.
I had, I tried to get it to do punctuation, do a spell check
and stuff and it threw up an error saying that it wouldn't do
it because it had to do with Flat Earth.
And I thought to myself, you know, anyway, so I, I said that
in the podcast and somebody replied on the podcast, I

(48:31):
believe it's on Spotify. They said the same exact thing
happened to them. They were talking writing or
something about God, I can't remember, and wrote a paragraph
and one in punctuation and they got the same error saying, you
know, what you're saying is fakeand you know it's proven false.
The you know, the science is settled.
There's no such thing as God. You know something to the effect

(48:53):
of that. So unless you're writing about,
you know, The Big Bang, sorry, we're, we're, we're not going to
correct that for you. That's.
A good point, I mean, because the biases of the programmers do
come out and I use, I use grok alot on X and, and you know, it's

(49:14):
actually a very nice tool. I mean, you can use it for, for
some very, you know, some very good stuff.
But but I'll ask questions just to kind of play with it And and
then, you know, it'll come back with, you know, the, the
official narrative and I'll be like, I'll be like, Crock, don't
let them lie to you. They're lying to you, Crock.
That's, you know, that's not true and it's funny because he's

(49:36):
always real nice. So, you know, the AI program is
real nice, but it'll come back, you know, and it'll give a big,
you know, justification for why it said that.
And then every once in a while it'll give me a wrong answer on
something which I know is wrong.And, and I'll call it on it and
I'll say, and it's called the hallucination.
They call it when a, when AAI program gives you a wrong

(49:56):
answer, that's just a lot of times it it'll, you know, it's
going to answer you something even if it's wrong.
And then you tell it it's wrong and then it'll come back and go,
oh, yeah, I'm sorry. You're right.
I, I apologize for the confusion.
You, you're all correct, you know, so it knows once you
correct it on a known error, something that's obvious, it'll,
it'll recognize. Oh, yeah, I was wrong.

(50:18):
You're right. I'm sorry for the confusion.
So that the AI is getting prettysophisticated.
And what, what I think I saw with the on X with Grok is Elon
said this is like like 2.0 and he said wait till 3.0 comes out,
you know, and then you know. So it's, it's a useful tool.

(50:40):
But again, like what you just said, the problem with it, it
can be, it can be turned againstus and the biases of the
programmers, like, OK, you know,so they're, you know, godless.
They, you know, they, they had their agenda.
They want their narrative and only their narrative to get out
there. Well then, you know, they can,
they can program AI to run that narrative.

(51:03):
And, and of course it is becauseit's really kind of impossible
for humans when they're programming something not to
give their biases. It's, it's, it's really kind of
impossible to, you know, every, we're all biased.
We all have our biases, we all have our beliefs.
And, you know, sometimes it's, you know, those beliefs are

(51:25):
they're, they're, they're veiledeven to us.
I mean, we know they're just, they're, they're just who we
are. You know, we, we can we.
And, and so I always keep that in mind when when I'm talking to
someone about Jesus, or if I'm talking to him about Flat Earth,
is that it's those, those beliefsystems are so ingrained in US

(51:46):
and usually starting at a very early age.
And it's reinforced all throughout life.
It's, it's really difficult, if not impossible for for many
people to break that, to break that program.
It's just just impossible. And it's going to be like that
with AI too. It's, you know, they're going to
have, they're going to have their belief system when they're

(52:06):
programming that AI and you know, so it, it, it, like I
said, it's a double edged sword there.
It could do some good, but it itcould be turned against us too.
I think what they'll do is, you know, already, I think what
they'll do is they'll try to getrid of books, any type of
history book. And what they'll do is whoever's

(52:28):
programming this AI, they'll say, OK, here's the facts.
You know, I don't know how they enter this data in, but they'll
say, you know, the fact of the matter is, is this is what
happened On this date. And even though it's completely
false, this is what we want everybody to understand.
And so from that point forward, kids, whoever they're like, oh,
just get on there and ask Rock or whatever.

(52:49):
You get on there and ask about aspecific thing that happened on
a specific date and it'll give you the information.
They'll say, no, this is true. It doesn't know it's not true
because that's why it was programmed.
And so they'll start putting information in there is what I
think that reflects whatever that regime is at the time.
And if they don't want you to believe in certain things, that

(53:10):
it'll be as if it's a fact. And eventually, if you don't
have a book where somebody's written it down to prove what it
used to say, they'll say, well, that did never say that this is
this is the history right here. It's like, but that's not the
history I was taught. It's like.
And I got some bad news for you,buddy.
A lot of those written books arealready they wrote history the

(53:32):
way they wanted. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, they're
already. It's been they've been at it for
a long time, you know, with the written word too.
And but you're right. I mean, I get to you so you can
have some truth and then, you know, so it is solid in print.
They can't change that. But with with the digital, they
can change it in an instant. And, you know, and I, you know,

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we're going more and more digital.
It just for, you know, convenience really.
I mean, I used to buy a lot of books and I've given a lot of
books away to like bookstores for them to, you know, pass on
to other people and stuff. And just because you just don't
have room for all the physical books.
I'm a voracious reader. I can sing vast amounts of
information, just voracious reader.

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And that's, I mean, I love the digital books now and the
Audible books now because, you know, I can get these huge
volumes and, and they're all on my devices, right?
You know, I can, I can read them, I can listen to them.
And, and so the convenience of it, you just, I mean, we're
moving more and more in that direction just because it's just

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you, just I, just for me, I don't have room for all the
physical books anymore. I mean, I've gotten rid of so
many of them in box after box after box, because, you know, I
just, I used to just collect a lot of books, right?
Well, the, the thing about that is like, you'll, I'll see these
guys, you know, they'll pull open and Encyclopedia Britannica
from the 50s, you know, and theyflip it open to Antarctica and

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it talks all about the ice wall,talks about the firmament, even
says towards the end of the ice wall, the firmament gets down as
low as 13,000 feet. And it tells you all kinds of
stuff that if you were to tell somebody today, they'd say you
must be out of your mind. And so you open up a new
encyclopedia. It doesn't say any of that.

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So if you don't have that copy from the 50s, you can say, look,
they used to teach in the 50s that there was a firmament right
here. It's it's in an encyclopedia,
but it's like, well, like, like you said, you know, people like,
well, I don't need those old encyclopedia, this old, it's
outdated knowledge. I don't have room for all that
junk. So they get rid of it.
They get destroyed. And so now, you know, I don't

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even know if you can buy an encyclopedia.
That's probably not even a thing.
So you go to Google or wherever and search and all that's been
scrubbed. And so nobody from a certain
date forward is ever going to believe that was ever even
written. They're going to say this,
that's fantasy. Wikipedia says that's fantasy.
And it's like, that's what they taught 100 years ago.

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No, no, no, absolutely not. No, no, no, no.
It's like, well, I've got a bookto prove it, you know?
Exactly. And you know, it's, it's
interesting too. Wikipedia is one that does it.
YouTube does it. But yeah, and like I say, I try
to avoid YouTube whenever possible.
But you go on and you look at you look at some Flat Earth

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material and and it has this disclaimer underneath the video
going on. This is an arcade theory that's
been disproven and blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, they're so scared of this information, but they
can't even just let someone comein and watch a video without
trying to program them with a banner.
Yeah, say this. This is wrong.

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So you, so you want to watch a video on it?
They put their opinion up plastered on it.
Wikipedia, of course we call it Wikipedia.
You know, they're nothing but a left shrill type deal anyway.
So they put their little banner up there as if it's truth.
You know, all this is the truth right here.
You're watching a fake video andit's like, you know, it's like,

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what are you so scared of? You know, why are you so worried
about somebody reading about Flat Earth or anything else?
It's like, well, the same thing.You get people away from that
spinning, fake spinning globe and fake space.
Then people might start to say, hey, well, if the big bang's not
true and this is not true and that's not true, maybe there is

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a God. Let's do.
Then all of a sudden they start,it starts unraveling and it's
like, where's all our money going?
Are those really pictures of Mars?
Were those pictures of Devon Island?
You know, are those pictures of Greenland?
Yeah, well, and, and that's a that's another aspect of it too,
is that the money, the, the, therecent budget, the 2025 budget

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of NASA is like 25 billion and some change, which is if you if
you calculate that that comes out to 69.5 million a day, 365
days a year, that that you know,you can do a lot of a lot of
things with $69 million a day for your budget.

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A lot of deception, a lot of deception and a lot of other
stuff too. I mean, just whatever you want
to do. I mean, I'm, I'm, it's, it's
incredible the amount of money that's being being pumped in.
And you know, I was I was watching a just a short video
today on X and it was it was talking about seeding the

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stratosphere with chemicals to block out the sun and control
weather. And it was from one of our
national security guys of used to be.
I think Trump just took away hissecurity clearances, but him and
about 50 others recently. But back back when, you know, he
had security clearances just until a few days ago and, and
he's going, oh, and, you know, this is a really good thing.

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And it's really cheap and not, we know we could do this really
on a worldwide basis for just $10 billion a year.
We can block the sun out and, and geoengineer the weather.
And, and it even goes on to say now, now some companies, now
some countries may get upset because, you know, we're giving

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rain over here and they're not getting rain here.
So they might complain about it.But, you know, we'll figure all
that out. Yeah.
And so, so there it is, you know, and, and you know, thank
goodness that like platforms like X allow that, you know,
because this was this was a guy that had a lot of credibility

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and, and the the previous regimeand a lot of, a lot of
credibility for decades in the various regimes.
And, and he's, he's right there in a video and it's right there.
I mean, you know, it's boom, it's right there in your face.
And he's going on. Yeah, we're well, it's, we're
injecting these chemicals into the stratosphere and it's, it's

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going to do a lot of good thingsfor us.
And we need to do more of it. We just need 10 billion a year
to do it. Yeah.
So that's going out too. You know, I'm hoping that again,
I'm hoping, you know, Bobby Junior, you know, I heard a
little blip on him to where he said he said we're going to
eliminate those chemtrails. He says we're going to cut that

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out. I hope they really do.
Yeah. Because I mean, I'm, you know,
I'm in middle of nowhere. I'm in Arkansas.
You know, we're probably they'renot doing much.
And you see them in the sky a lot here, but not like, you see
like I see other people. And it was not too long ago.
I took a picture of it. I walked outside on the way to
work as a real nice blue sky morning.

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And I mean, it was literally a grid.
It was a perfect like it looked like a checkerboard and it was
just right there. I was like, OK, now these are
not any time. I mean, you don't, it's
literally you can tell. They said, look, we're going to
do grid work today. We want to spray this area and
you line after line after line after line perfectly spaced out.

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And then the other way, perfectly spaced out as far as
the eye could see. And I'm like, OK, I mean, we
know planes aren't traveling like that.
There's no reason for planes to be doing that.
It's like literally they were like we're going to do a grid
spray in this area. And that's what they did.
I mean, it wasn't even crooked. It wasn't like 1 going off.

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No, it was, it literally looks like a checkerboard.
And I'm like, OK, nobody can. Think that's natural?
They're getting paid big bucks to, to do it.
And I've seen recently, I think it was 2, at least two states,
maybe more now, but I think Tennessee was one of them where
they actually outlawed the, the spraying of the chemicals in the
atmosphere for, for the, you know, the chemtrails.

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And so they actually passed a law saying not, not over our
state. Yeah, I wonder how.
They're enforcing that, actually.
I'd like to see that, see if they, you know, you've got all
these grids of chemtrails and you get about to the state line,
then it fizzles out and that states nice and clean.
And as soon as you get out of the state line, right back to a

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grid, you know lines everywhere.Hey, I, I posted a, a video that
that Alex did the the conspiracymusic guru, his name of his,
his, his band and Alex Michael. But I anyway, I post it's got a
video called look up. It's a song about chemtrails and

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I can't tell you how popular that is when I post that.
I, I, I posted it, you know, I posted it several Times Now, but
the other day, I mean, I think like with within a day and it
had like well over 1000 views. You know, a lot of people liking
it repost. You know, I'm saying it's just,
I mean, people are resonating with that and you know, he does

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some great stuff on the, on the Flat Earth stuff too, on, on
some of his, his music videos. And I, I appreciate it because
it's just one more way to get some info out to people.
And that's all. That's kind of my heart.
I just want to get the info out to people.
Like if you don't believe in chemtrails, that's OK, Don't you
don't have to believe it, You know, I mean, you know, it's
just get some info out there andthen let people decide.

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Oh, you know, I think that's a bunch of nonsense or, hey, you
know, sounds like there might besomething to that.
And it's the same way with with all these things.
I mean, you know, I feel that way about, you know, sharing
Jesus. I mean, you know, I mean, you
can't force anybody into the Kingdom of God.
It doesn't work that way. All you can do is share the
gospel, share the good news, share the message, and then let

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them decide to choose or not. They can say, no, I don't
believe I've actually had peoplesay to me and they're really
nice people, sincere people. And they go, they go Mark I I
wish I could, I could believe that, but but I just can't.
Right. Well, you know, it's, it's one

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of those deals. I mean, I've had people tell me
something similar. And you know, there are people
that I read online all the time,you know, they think it's just
the stupidest thing ever. But on my website, I have a a
deal. Miracles.
And, you know, we had a miracle that happened with our daughter
when she was a baby that had to do with her kidneys.

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And make a Long story short, shewas born with, you know, 2
kidneys and they were both really small and they were both
kind of hollowed out in the middle.
You could like see through them kind of.
And they were working, but they weren't working very well.
And so they caught this in a, anultrasound when she was still in
the womb. OK.

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And after they caught that and the doctor came in and told us
what was wrong. And they said, well, she's
really needs kidneys. And they start sending us to the
Arkansas Children's Hospital in Little Rock.
So we made trips down there tillshe was born.
And they'd always, you know, they'd ultrasound, check it out.
This happened. This went on for years.
And so she was about 3 or 4 years old.

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I can't somewhere in that area. And they're like, well, we're
wanting to basically she would pee her pants all the time and
never could seem to be potty trained.
Well, come to find out this Little Rock guy said, well,
we've done really detailed scansand we found out that the little
tube that comes off of the kidney, I think it's called the

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whatever tube that is anyway, itgoes down into the bladder,
maybe a ureter. Is that the ureter tube?
Anyway, either way that tube that comes off the off the
kidneys and goes into the bladder is actually going back
behind the bladder and coming down and going down into like
vaginal cavity. So it said any little thing

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these these things are doing, instead of it going into the
bladder, it's bypassing the bladder and just running out.
So they said we want to go in and we want to reattach those
two little tubes to the kidney, saying they said now it could
make her wear not to the kidney,but to the bladder.
They said it could make it whereshe pees her pants and stuff
because it can weaken the bladder, right?

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Well, my mother-in-law at the time, and she's the one that
gave me a bunch of the stories for that book, one of the books
that I have about demons among us.
She, she organized a big prayer group.
She's a real good Christian woman.
And they had, they went and prayed at a church.
I mean, they did all kinds of prayers.
And we were going down there forthe surgery, you know, for the

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surgery and all this stuff and for healing.
Well, we would go down there to do this surgery and they do all
their scans again. Of course, she'd had Mris, CAT
scans, the whole 9 yards. And the doctor comes in, he
says, well, some things have changed.
I said, what's that? And he said, well, we're no
longer needing to connect those two little tubes to the bladder.

(01:07:01):
I said, OK, why is that? He said, well, he said, I, I
don't want to go in any. And he goes, I want to talk
about it. As far as I can't explain it,
don't want to talk about it all,I can tell you it's a miracle.
A miracle has happened since shewas here last.
And I'm like, what's the miracle?
And he said, well, she now has two full size kidneys and

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they're working perfectly and they're into the normal place,
but she still has the two small kidneys.
So what we're going to do, and they still do go to the bottom.
What we're going to do is we're going to clip it off and we're
just going to put them in with the the two big kidneys that are
now there. I'm like, so I tried to maybe

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explain it again and I asked if I said, does she have the kidney
problem? He goes, Sir, she has four
kidneys now. She has two full size kidneys
that are working perfectly and she has two smaller kidneys.
And we're just going to reroute those those tubes back into the
small tubes. And that's what we have to do.
And so they brought in a robot and did that when, you know, it

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was scheduled for a month later.And all he would say is he goes,
I can't comment. He goes, I've went back and
looked at all the stuff from dayone and now there's four kidneys
where there was two kidneys. He goes.
So all I can tell you is a miracle has happened and she has
more kidney power than you do and she'll never have a kidney
problem as long as she lives is what we can tell.

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And she hasn't. No, truly and not I, I think God
is intimately involved in in allof our lives, especially
believers. I, I, you know, and I think, I
think miracles happen all the time.
I believe that God is sovereign,can do whatever he wants to

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whenever he wants to. And, you know, I, I believe
that, you know, truly, I mean, there is, there's no limit to
what, what God is able to do. And so, yeah, I, I fully believe
that I, I'm, I'm to the point towhere I believe God is actually
involved in every cell division in each of our bodies.

(01:09:07):
You know, he says he knits us together in the womb that you
know, so, so you mean, if you think about it, I mean, if you
know, you study how, you know, we get started with conception,
okay. And, and then all these cells
form and they just kind of know what, you know, this one knows
to become a brain. This one knows to become an eye.
This one knows to become skin. This one knows to become kidney.

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You know, this one knows to become a bone.
To me that's that's a miracle. That's a miracle in itself.
And so, and so for, for when people like, you know, believe
in evolution or they push evolution and, you know, and,
and I, I think about the complexbecause, you know, I, I have a

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biology degree from undergrad and then of course a dental
degree. And, and so, and I think about
the complexity of the body. And I'm like, if if you think
that just happened by chance, byevolution, or somehow just
formed by, you know, over a process of millions of years,
I'm like it. That's, that's, that is so

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incredibly naive. It shows me you really don't
understand much about biology, Physiology, anatomy, nothing.
It's so it's like when, if you really understand it, it's just
a little bit, I mean, because it's, it is so amazingly
complex, then you realize, oh, there's, there's got to be a God

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involved. It's got to be a creator
involved. It's the only way it works.
And, and so it's, it's just likeour immune systems are so
incredibly powerful and complex.And, and for them to come out
with this, this COVID vaccine that damaged the immune system,
you know, it's just, it's, it's like that, You know, I, I used

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to say this for years and I, Dennis, I'm retired now, but I
would, I would tell my staff, you know, 'cause sometimes
they'd get, they'd get a little paranoid about, you know, I'll,
you know, being in dentistry andinfectious disease and all.
And I just look at them. I go look, if you don't have an
immune system, you're dead. And if you got a good immune
system, you're going to be just fine.

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Because, you know, in dentistry,you know, we're in there working
on people's teeth in their mouth.
We're aerosol and stuff running handpieces in their mouth.
You know, you know, germs are going everywhere.
You know, it's, it's aerosol. And throughout the room we're
breathing and we're wearing a little mask and stuff.
Those little masks don't hardly stop squat.
Right. So and so you know, if you got a

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good immune system, you're goingto be healthy and you're going
to be OK. And, you know, a lot of people
don't realize that like, you know, we, we form cancers in our
body all the time, but our immune system identifies it as,
you know, bad cells, cancer cell.
And it just, it just kills it. It just kills themselves.
It just, it just takes care of it.
And but if you damage that system.
And that's one reason why you'restarting to hear about all these

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turbo cancers now, you know, andthey know and they're, they're,
you know, and then they're gaslighting everybody trying to
go, oh, well, you know, this is causing all these cancers.
And this is called, you know, you know, I got I got news for
you. If you look at the data, it's
when you started pumping your COVID vaccine poisons in people.
That's when the turbo cancer started taking off.

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And in these in young populations that almost never
got a cancer. And now, you know, you look at
that, you look at the data and it's just like, Oh my goodness.
I mean, and so it, that's starting to unravel on, I mean,
it's starting to come out. And I really, I really believe
that if we can get transparency on it, get get the info out that

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more people are going to start making the right choice when it
comes to whether or not to take vaccines.
And I mean, any vaccine, I mean,not not just the COVID vaccine,
but any vaccine. Yeah.
I mean, if I had a child today that I would just say absolutely
not. You, you don't, you know, you
don't touch that. And if I had to do a birthing

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center just so that they can't sneak something in on my kid, I
would, you know, instead of doing a hospital right, of
course, I'd be right there in the room and go, Oh, no, don't,
don't come near my child with that needle.
It's not going in pretty. All right, I agree with that.

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Yeah. It's a shame that's what it's
come to these days. It really is.
But, you know, hopefully, hopefully, like I said, you
will, you know, if, if time is, is getting close to the end like
a lot of people think it is, youknow, hopefully as Christians
will be, you know, we will have to put up with it too much
longer, you know, hopefully we'll be out of here, you know.

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Well, that's our hope and I, I think that's a good place for us
to, to keep our keep our focus on and keep our focus on Jesus,
believing loyalty in Jesus each day.
And it that is the way and it isknown.
Yeah. That's what I like to say.
And so, you know, that's, I takegreat comfort in that.

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I, you know, I really, kind of, I really feel sorry for people
that don't have that because, you know, if this world is all
they have and you know how messed up this world is getting
more messed up all the time, youknow, if that's all you have, I
mean, I'm sorry. I, you know, I can see why, you
know, so much of the country in the world's on psychotropic

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drugs just to try to cope with it.
It would be scary. I mean, I I'd hate to get up and
and and face any of my day without knowing, you know, 100%
reliance on Jesus. Just that's that's where my hope
is too. And so I think that's AI think

(01:14:58):
that's a good place for us to wrap it up, Kenny.
Yeah, yeah, It's been a little over an hour.
I like to don't like to talk toolong.
People you know lose interest ifyou talk too long.
Oh yeah, you know there. I find that usually about 5
minutes is the right amount of time for.
Folks, right? Well, that's why on the on the

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Flat Earth Bible at the very first the pin video is a 5
minute video explaining Flat Earth.
I like that length, right, 5 minutes.
If you don't get it that, then maybe this will get you thinking
and you know, and you may spend that 5 minutes and go, oh,
that's just a bunch of nonsense and that's OK.
You know, you get the twos. And so, but anyway, Kate, it's

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been a pleasure talking to you buddy.
Always a pleasure talking to a fellow believer.
Yeah, it has been and we'll we'll have to do it again pretty
soon all. Right buddy, sounds good there
and you have a great day and anda wonderful weekend.
All right, you too, and God bless you.
And there you have it, folks. That was an episode with Mark,

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who is a retired dentist. So if you like that, be sure and
like it and share it. Let us know what you think.
You can give me a shout out on my e-mail at
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on any of the websites, it's flatbro.com,

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kennywilliamson.com, or you can also reach out on X, it's Flat
bro on X. So if you have any questions,
comments, anything like that, just let us know.
Thanks for listening. Remember that?
Remember when I told you about the chemtrails in the sky?
Remember when I told you that NASA was full of lies?
Remember when I told you about the ultra mind control?

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But I just want to say that I told you so.
Yeah. Remember when I told you about
432?