March 5, 2025 • 47 mins
🎙️ The Watchers, Fallen Angels & the Book of Enoch – with Dr. Mark Farris 👁️🔥
In this fascinating episode, I sit down with Dr. Mark Farris to dive deep into the mysteries of the Watchers, the 200 Fallen Angels, and the Book of Enoch. Could ancient texts hold the key to understanding events that shaped our world?
🌍 Did the 200 fallen angels leave their mark on Earth—literally?
🪨 Are the 200 asteroid craters scattered across the planet the very places where they descended?
🏛️ And what about the mysterious pyramid in Kazakhstan with exactly 200 seats—coincidence or hidden knowledge?
We explore these mind-blowing connections, challenging mainstream history and uncovering what may be one of the greatest cover-ups in human history.
🔮 The truth is stranger than fiction. Are you ready to see the bigger picture?
📢 Listen now & decide for yourself!
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(00:44):
Hello, and welcome back to another episode of Mckillsdick
Chronicles. In today's episode, we're
talking again with the Doctor, Mark Faris, and we're going to
be talking a little bit about the watchers in the Book of
Enoch and Fallen Angels. And it's pretty interesting
because I was talking to Mark here the other day on the phone
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and he mentioned this and he hada lot of stuff put together that
I had never really thought about.
And start doing a little bit more research on some of the
documentation that you had sent over to me.
And I think that it's definitelyworth talking about the fallen
angels and how that works in with what's happening today.
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And who's because you know, one of the things you'll hear a lot
of people say is you'll always hear them say they, you know,
like the people controlling stuff.
You know, they don't want you toknow this.
And you, you've got these peoplethat are rich, let's say, and
they always seem to have the same orders to do stuff.
And they're always doing this stuff.
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And it's like, well, somebody's telling them to do this stuff
because there's no way they could do it on their own.
So who are they that's behind this?
And and you have the answer to that, don't you?
Well, I always think of it this way and when when I hear they,
because you hear that thrown around a lot and it and it
certainly does look like a, shall we say, a coordinated
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effort through throughout the earth in all countries.
You know, COVID was a big example of that, just how they
coordinated everything. You know, everybody was in
lockstep with it. And, and so when I, when I hear
the word, they, because that gets thrown around a lot, I
always think about the fallen angels as being kind of the, the
top of the heap for, for controlling this world.
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You know, of course, you know, our, you know, our, our top of
the heap is the most high God. But, but the fallen angels are,
are certainly a factor in what'shappening in this world today.
And I, I think that is the ultimate day behind it.
And, and then they have a, they have a host, you know, hierarchy
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among them and they have demons underneath them.
And we'll, and in this talk today, we'll get into a little
bit about where I believe demonscome from, because angels are
different than demons. They're, they're two separate
spiritual beings and a supernatural beings.
And so when, when I look at the big picture, I, I kind of put it
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together this way, you know, we,we all tend to go back and we
look and we say, well, what, what causes all this mess in the
world? Why, you know, why is it so
messed up? Why is there so much evil in the
world? Why is there so much sin in the
world? Why, why are things as bad as
they are and just seem to get worse over time?
And a lot of people go back to the Garden of Eden and they go,
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well, you know, that's because, you know, you know, Eve bit that
apple when she wasn't supposed to and, or bit that fruit when
she wasn't supposed to because God told them not to.
And then she gave it to Adam and, and he bit it too.
And so they rebelled. And so, OK, that's, that's part
of the answer. OK, Rebellion against God is
part of the answer. And, and God certainly judged
for that. You know, we see that in Genesis
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chapter 3, the the judgement on mankind for that.
But but there's, there's two other faults that that people
tend to maybe, shall we say, notthink about or or maybe don't
even know about. And so this these watchers, you
were just talking about the 200 watchers or, or another fall,
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shall we say a second fall. And I think it's just as
significant of an impact on the the, shall we say, the shape of
the world today as far as, you know, sin and evil.
And just with things being as bad as they are, that second
fall may have had as much or maybe even more of an impact on
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the the world then then that first fall did.
Because when these watchers camedown, we see this in Genesis
chapter 6 in our Bible. It talks about the sons of God
coming down and seeing that the daughters of men were beautiful
and they took them for wives. It says any that they wanted
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they chose and had, you know, sexual relationships with them
and had children with them. And these children were a hybrid
of angels and mankind. And and so they're called the
Nephilim and they say they were,you know, men of renown, men
that were able to do great featsand they were giants.
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Someone were, you know, very large in stature as well, and
very strong and, and, and had had abilities.
And, and so that fall was, was definitely significant.
And when these when these hybridrace was created, I, I think
that may have had as much to do with the great flood, you know,
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when God said, you know, the, the heart of man was just all
continuously evil. But I think we're also the gene
pool got corrupted by these angels coming down and, and
having sexual relationship with women and creating a hybrid, a
genetic hybrid that got that wasnot God's plan at all.
And so he destroyed, he destroyed them.
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And the Book of Enoch has some some great insights on to how
they were destroyed. And then also the great flood,
which was absolutely cleansed the earth and only only eight
people survived the great flood that was nowhere.
His wife, his three sons and their wives.
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But he also says it's interesting.
He says he's nephelon. We're we're around after the
great flood. Right.
So definitely around after. So even after the great flood,
we didn't get rid of them completely.
Right. Well, I'm going to share this
here so anybody can see this. So what you were talking about
here in Genesis, Genesis 61, youknow, and it says, and it came
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to pass when men begin to multiply on the face of the
earth and daughters were born into them, that the sons of God
saw the daughters of men, that they were fair and they took
them wives, all of which they chose.
OK And then we skip down here tosix, four.
And it says there were giants inthe earth in those days and also
and also after that. So we know they were there later
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when the sons of God came into the daughters of men and they
bear children to them. The same became mighty men which
were of old men of renowned. So these are the fallen angels
that you're referring to obviously.
And that is Scripture in the Bible in Genesis.
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Now when you add to that, you can add to in the book of Enoch,
which is not Canon, you know it.It is part of the Apocrypha,
which is in between the Old and New Testament in some Bibles and
omitted from all lots of others.But it actually breaks down very
similar in First Enoch and describes a little more depth if
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it's a if it's accurate to who these fallen angels actually
were and how many of them there were, right?
I mean, so it's showing here in the Book of Enoch that these
sons of God, which are interpreted obviously as angels,
you know, it came down, says thesame thing, but it goes on and
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says states that 200 angels referred to as the watchers were
the ones that were fallen. So according to the Book of
Enoch, we have around 200 of these angels that were basically
kicked out and fallen down to earth.
And they're the ones that start doing this thing with women and
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having these offspring, which were giants.
So. So that's where we obviously get
the 200 from, right? Absolutely.
And those 200 they they had leaders of those 200, they were
divided into groups of 10. And here's something to that is
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interesting is that in addition to these 200 having sexual
relationships with, with the daughters of men and creating a
hybrid offspring, you might, youmight say demigods, you know,
but we, we'll maybe get into that in this talk.
A little bit of how this ties ina little bit with the mythology,
with Greek mythology and Roman mythology.
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But they also gave mankind knowledge that was considered
forbidden knowledge. They, they taught them how to
use metals and make weapons. They taught women how to use
cosmetics and adorn their bodies.
And so, so these, this knowledgethat they gave mankind led to
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warfare, a lot of murder, killing, vanity with, you know,
with just, you know, using, using, making the body, you
know, just more attractive. And then in addition to those
kind of things that the knowledge they gave them, they
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also taught them about sorcery, astrology, divination, knowledge
of herbs and cutting of roots. And so they, they, they were
actually, they were teaching them witchcraft as well.
It's all right, you know, And sothis, this corruption, let's,
let's just think of it like the second fall, you know, So, so we
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go back to that concept of threefalls.
OK, So you got you got the Garden of Eden and then you got
these watchers coming down and, and having sex with women.
But also, you know, they lived with these women.
They lived among mankind. They were, they were able to
take human form and they they imparted a lot of forbidden
knowledge that led to a lot moresin in the world.
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We just like with that weapon making, you know, it basically
gave man the ability to kill, tokill at will.
And, and, and don't you know, wesure see that today.
I mean, that's, that's kind of never ended from that time on.
And you know, the, the weapons, they just get more and more
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sophisticated and they get, you know, they get more and more
accurate and, and more and more,shall we say, efficient at at
killing others. And so these these watchers, I
mean, they were, you know, they rebelled against God.
These, I think it's important tounderstand these, these were
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angels that chose to rebel against God.
So just as mankind rebelled against God, we have here, we
have 200 angels now. Now think about that.
I mean, these angels are in the presence of God.
I mean, you know, they're, they can, you know, go, you know, up
to the throne of God. I mean, they're, you know,
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they're supernatural, you know, they can get above the Dome,
they, the throne of God's on theDome, they can get, they can go
into the presence of and they, and they still chose to rebel.
You know, they, they decided to come down and to, you know, to
do what they wanted to do not, you know, not to do it God's
way, but to do it their way. And so, so God judged him for
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it. And, you know, he imprisoned
them and he said, you know, he, he wasn't, he didn't allow that
to happen. He recompensed them for for the
error of their ways. But the, you know, the, the
damage, the damage was done to mankind.
And I think that's probably as asignificant reason for the great
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flood, as there was just the evil in the world, is that the
gene pool had been corrupted. Right.
Well, that's one of the one of the theories when they talk
about Noah and they talk about, you know, he was perfect and
they're saying, you know, that that could mean that he's
perfect in his DNA, in his gene pool.
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So he had not, him and his family had not intermixed with
these demoniacs or whatever theyare, you know, from these
Nephilim, if you will, or giants.
But now when you say they're imprisoned, I know we have
verses in the Bible that shows that hell was created for the
devil and his angels. Now obviously those angels are
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these fallen angels that we're talking about.
So now, don't we, don't we thinknow based on some other
scriptures, you were telling me that these angels are actually,
they head over countries. So we have roughly 200 fallen
angels and we have roughly 200 countries that they could be
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over ruling them. Yeah, Yeah.
That's, that's a doubt that's leading into the to the third
fall. Let let me before we go there,
let's just cover when we look atthe, the, the book of Enoch, it
says with these angels that they're there was a group of
them that he bound them and he imprisoned them in a desolate
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place. It's like a subterranean place.
We, we, we might think of that as an abyss or Hades, because,
you know, no one's in hell yet. Hell was created for Satan and
his angels, but they're not there yet.
But the leader of these angels, he, he singled him out for the
harsher punishment and he put him in a pit in the, you know,
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subterranean pit. And he actually covered this one
with, with stones, sharp stones.And he is bound there until the
Day of Judgment to will, when he'll be thrown into hell, into
the fire. And so so the.
Enoch. This has been it's not the book
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of Enoch, yes, which the the book of Enoch is is not in our
Canon now in the Ethiopian Church.
It is Canon for the Ethiopian church that at least I think
about the 1st 30 chapters or so is, is Canon in their Bible and
has been, you know, for a long, you know, a long time.
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And so, but for us it's not. But even though it's not Canon
for us, I think I've, I've read the entire book multiple times
and it, it gives a lot of insight, a lot of it gives more
detail into our scriptures. And so I think I think we can
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gain some, some insight and, andsome better understanding of
what's going on behind the scenes by reading the Book of
Enoch and, and looking at what'shappening.
Because when, when you, when youlook at, you know what God says
in the Bible and then you look at the book of Enoch, it
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correlates together very well. It's just, it's just a lot more
detail. So at what point do we get these
fallen angels over the countriesthen?
OK, so let's let's go to Deuteronomy chapter 32, verse 8.
And, and just to give you a little background on this,
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everybody's familiar with the story of the Tower of Babel and
that they were trying to build atower to heaven to reach heaven.
And God came down and confused the languages and scattered the
nations at that point. And so it says in in Deuteronomy
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32, it says verse, this is verse8.
It says when the most high gave to the nations their
inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of
the peoples according to the number of the sons of God, sons
of God are those fault? Those are those are those
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angels. But at this point, when he did
this, I don't think these angelswere fallen.
I don't think these particular angels when God did this, when
he when he confused the languages at Babel, which we
believe there was about 70 nations, 70 different languages,
70 nations created these, these angels at this point, I don't
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think had fallen. I mean, God, God just gave them.
He said, OK, you don't want to follow me.
You know, you don't want to giveme your worship and, and, and
only your believing loyalty to me.
He said, so I'm going to turn you over and let my my sons of
God, my lesser angels created angels rule over you.
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And he and what he did was he hegave these nations, he gave an
Angel over each one. But for his portion, he says,
and verse 9 he says, but the Lord's portion is his people,
Jacob, his allotted heritage. That's the nation of Israel,
which we're grafted into as as believers in Jesus Christ, we
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are grafted into that nation. God's God's people.
We are God's people, part of hisnation, his heritage, because
Jesus came, you know, came and, and paved the way for us with
that. And but these angels were
actually given rule over these nations.
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And eventually what happened is that they decided they wanted to
be worshipped, that they decidedthat, you know, hey, this is
kind of nice being being top dogof a nation.
And you know what, I, I want them to worship me.
I want them to, you know, you know me, I'm the top dog.
And so over time, pride and arrogance consumed these angels.
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Again, these are these are God'screated angels, I mean, that
were able to go into the presence of God and they fail
this, this is the third fall. And so these angels fell, and
then God eventually just basically gets fed up with him.
And where we can see what God said to him, we can go to Psalm
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82. And here's what he says.
He says God standeth in the congregation of the mighty.
He judges, judgeth among the gods.
And he says to him, How long will ye judge unjustly?
And accept the persons of the wicked.
So he's saying, you know, why, why are you acting like this?
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He says, defend the poor and fatherless, do justice to the
afflicted and needy, deliver thepoor and needy, rid them out of
the hand of the wicked. So God's saying you're not doing
your job. You guys have you've fallen down
on the job and you're, you're doing a horrible job of it.
And he says, and he's talking about the people now.
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He says they know not neither will they understand.
They walk on in darkness. All the foundations of the earth
are out, of course. So he's just saying things, you
know, I put you in charge of these these 70 nations and
things are you, you're just dropthe ball.
Things are just gone. I mean, it's horrible what's
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happening. And then he says to them, he
says, I have said, ye are gods and all of you are children of
the Most High. He's talking to us, his angels
now that he put in charge of these nations.
He says, but ye shall die like men and fall like one of the
Princess. And it says, Arise, O God, judge
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the earth, for thou shalt inherit all nations.
So he's telling them that, you know, hey, you didn't you drop
the ball, You didn't do what youwere supposed to do.
And, and so think of this as thethird fall.
So, and so when you, when you look at it, and what's
interesting to me about this is that when you look at it, when
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I, when I look at the Greek mythology, the Roman mythology,
and I see this pantheon of gods and how they fight among
themselves. And there's hierarchy there.
And there's all this, you know, this pride and avarice and
jealousy and positioning for, you know, position.
I think of these, I think of these 70 angels that were given
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charge over the nations at Babeland that eventually they fell.
And like in, in our, in our myths, like the Greek myths and
Roman myths, this is the pantheon.
These are, these are the, the Pantheon's and then the demigods
that you see in, in these myths and these Greek and Roman myths
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would be the Nephilim, you know,these hybrids of angels and men.
And what's interesting to me is you'll see this like I'm, I'm,
I'm, I enjoy books that are historically based and in
ancient Japan, they, they, they call Japan the, the land of the
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gods. Now, why would they call it the
land of the gods? Because a fallen Angel ruled
over that. There were probably more than
one, there could have been multiple fallen angels.
And they believe that their leader in Japan, or you're going
back to the 1600s Japan now was divine that he was part God.
So you see even even in man's history that, you know, we got
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this mixing of the gods and humankind.
The, and there's, you know, our leader, our, our, our emperor of
Japan is divine. He's, he's got part God in him.
And we're the land of the gods. They called themselves the land
of the gods. So all of this kind of this, you
know, you start connecting the dots.
A lot of this stuff ties together.
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And it's interesting because when you look at our scripture,
it's, it's, it's in our scripture.
And as you start connecting the dots in the scripture, you start
seeing, oh, there, there's a lotgoing on.
There's a reason why the world'sso messed up.
It's because they, these fallen angels and, and the demons and,
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and the demons, I believe that the demons or the souls of these
Nephilim when they died, these demigods that was a hybrid
between angels and, and man and mankind of women.
I believe those souls when they departed, they become demons.
They can't be saved. They, they don't.
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It's just like we when we depart, we don't die.
Our soul and spirit lives on. We don't.
It's just, it's just where are we going to live?
None of us die. We just, we leave this physical
body, but we live on. Same with the Nephilim with
these hybrid beads, their, theirsoul and spirit departed, but
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they live on. And I think those are what
demons are. And I think they're in cahoots
with the fallen angels and they,they work together and then
sometimes they don't work together.
They battle each other, they jockey for position, they jockey
for power. They have arguments about who
the head head demon is, who the head fallen Angel is, who has
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control of this nation, who getsto what you know, that is what I
I see happening in the world today is that these nations
truly controlled by they and that they would be the fallen
angels and the demons and then the people or just they're
minions. You know, they're, they're
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minions of them and you know, they, they just, they've fallen
for various reasons, power, money, you know that just the
very, you know, just the sin nature of man.
It's just easy to, it seems easyto corrupt a lot of people.
And I think unless you have the,the Spirit of Jesus Christ
living in any of the Holy Spirit, unless you have that I,
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I, I think we, we, we can be corrupted very easily.
And, and it's, it's evident in the world today.
So, so the three falls, the Garden of Eden, the 200 coming
down, having sex with with womenand giving forbidden knowledge,
the second fall and then the third fall would be when he gave
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these angels charge over the nations and then they decided
they wanted to be worship. And that's that's where I kind
of see where the the Greek, the Greek and Roman pantheons come
from. Right.
Well, having to do with the 200,of course.
That is, again, that comes out of the Book of Enoch as far as
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the numbers are concerned. But what makes that seem like
that could be, you know, accurate is the fact that let's
say that they're over some of these nations.
Now you know that each, each oneof these fallen angels is
possibly the Prince or somethingover a nation.
We have almost 100, almost 200 nations, right, or 200 countries
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that they could possibly be over.
But whether they're all over, something is out of here or
there. But you know, they also we have,
and I have a picture of it here.We have let me find it.
And this is a theory that I've seen many, many times, and that
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is we have all over Earth. I was going to say the planet
Earth, but it's not a planet. All over Earth we have these
craters, and there's approximately 200 of these
craters that they've counted. And they claim these are from
asteroids or meteorites or whatever they're from.
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But the problem with saying an asteroid made these huge craters
is that there's no asteroid around, so they can't find the
asteroid that made the indentment that made the crater.
They can't find any residue of anything.
We just have these giant cratersall over the Earth and there's
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roughly 200 of them. So one of the things that I had
found is they're thinking when these 200 angels actually fell
to Earth, we literally mean we're thrown out and fell and
hit. And when they hit, they created
these craters. So I don't know if you if you've
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heard of that or if you you think that could be accurate.
I, I think it's a very interesting and like I said that
that number 200 is interesting because if you look at the, the
number of nations on the Earth, the US State Department says
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there's 198. So that's, that's right there at
600. And, you know, and Jesus talks
about that, you know, he saw, hesaw Satan being cast out of
heaven, you know, being flung tothe earth.
And you know, he fell, he felt like a Thunderbolt.
And he says, you know, he took athird of the angels with him.
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Now we don't know how many that is it a third could be a whole
lot. OK, you know, it's just a
percentage. We don't.
But he says, you know, his tail that the Dragon's tail swept 1/3
of the stars with him and the stars referring to these sons of
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God angels. So 1/3 chose to rebel with him.
So I, I tend to believe that that nations may have multiple
fallen angels directing them because, you know, fallen angels
can only be at one point at one time.
You know, they're not like God. You know, God knows everything
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all the time. He's, you know, he's omniscient,
he's omnipotent, you know, he's omnipresent.
He's, he knows it all but that. But these angels don't, even
though they're supernatural and they have a lot of power,
they're still limited. Now, now they might go to travel
quickly because you know, they are, they are Elohim.
They are supernatural spiritual beings.
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They, you know, they can take the form of a body, but they
don't, you know, they don't haveto.
And you know, so they can switchback and forth.
And so, you know, there could belike there are multiple fallen
angels and demons. We don't know how many demons
because we don't know how many Nephilim there was.
I mean, there could have been a lot of Nephilim.
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And so it's a, it's interesting too, tying into that with OK,
like the, the, the craters there.
I, and I've seen one of those craters out in Arizona and it,
it is impressive. You can tell something,
something impacted there. And I, I, you know, you look
down there, it's just a big, youknow, it's just a big crater.
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There's nothing there, you know,And so, you know, I, I think a,
a plausible explanation could be, you know, 11 of the, the
angels that were cast out of heaven were literally slung to
earth. And when they hit the earth,
they, they did make an impact. Because, you know, these are,
you know, these are supernaturalbeings.
They, they're very powerful and they, you know, they, they have
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abilities probably beyond our greatest imagination, you know,
for, for, for us, it would seem like they're able to do, you
know, magical things, but for them it's just normal stuff.
They just operate in, in multiple, multiple, you know,
dimensions, shall we say, multiple areas of power.
That's just normal for them. So yeah, that that 200, the 200
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and the 200 nations and then the200 fallen angels when in the
second, the second fall. And it is interesting when you
start connecting the dots, how how those numbers do do kind of
line up with each other. Well, on and then on top of
that, which is this picture thatI have here over there in
Kazakhstan, I think is how you pronounce it.
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You know, they've got a giant pyramid built over there, and in
the top of this pyramid is this room right here.
And it's some kind of a special meeting room.
They've designed that supposedlyfor religious purposes.
And it has 200 seats. And so people are saying that
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this thing here is built for those 200 fallen angels to meet,
whether they're meeting now or or they're planning to meet in
the future. Possibly, you know, when the
Antichrist is revealed, something like that that's
coming up, possibly when these these things can possibly reveal
themselves, then, you know, as what they are and they will have
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a place to go meet. And so they've got a pyramid
built and of course, you can seeit, you can see a whole lot more
pictures, but it's in Kazakhstan.
And I think that's really interesting because they've
mimicked it off of the pyramids over there in Egypt, which is
just full of, you know, Pagan writing.
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You know, the ones that have thehieroglyphics in them.
It's full of Pagan gods and all that stuff, which goes right
back to the pantheon. You know, these so-called
Egyptian gods they were worshipping apparently gave them
information on how to build and do things that, you know, they
can't even do now. Now that's.
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That's an interesting thing. And, and, and so now in the
future, we're still, you know, whether or not I believed it or,
you know, whether or not it's inthe Holy Bible, it's in this
book of Enoch right here. And somebody believes it.
I think because, you know, this book says 200.
We've got the 200 craters, we'vegot the 200 countries, and now
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we've got people building pyramids with 200 seats for a
future meeting. Well, you know, what's the
significance of 200? Well, obviously it's the 200
fallen angels. Now, if these fallen angels are
ruling this earth, you know, of course we know Satan is
ultimately, you know, he, he offered it to Jesus and said,
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Hey, you can have all this if you worship me.
So he's, he's the big dog. Everybody else is underneath
him, obviously. But you know, that's, that's how
these guys are coming up with this stuff.
I think all this technology and stuff, you know, I mean,
they're, they're coming out withtechnology and stuff like you
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wouldn't believe, like you were saying to commit war even, you
know, but I mean, it wasn't verylong ago.
I mean, I had, you know, before the iPhone, it, it, it wasn't
that long ago. It's like we had, you know, in
2000 something, we have an iPhone, the beginning of it.
Before that we have an analog phone.
Five years before that, you don't even have cell phones.
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They don't even exist. And then all of a sudden we've
got one in our hand that, you know, is, is doing everything.
So, but it's funny that a lot ofthis stuff goes back to the old
time like this, you know, when they want to build something
they think is awesome. They built a pyramid and we've
got these pyramids sitting around that have been there
45000 years supposedly. And supposedly the Egyptians
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built them, although nobody can prove how they built them or
anything like that. And so I think some of that
technology from those fallen angels, they're saying, hey,
here's how you do it. They supplied it or helped, and
they're still in power today. You know I.
Think you make a good, good point there.
And when you look at some of these structures around the,
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around the, the world, around the earth, like that, the, some
of the Aztecs that structures, the island of Malta, the
pyramids you mentioned, and there's multiple pyramids all
over the earth, by the way, they're everywhere.
And you, you look at these blocks and, and some of these
blocks, you know, they, they weigh, you know, 20 tons, 30
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tons, 40 tons. I mean, they're huge.
We don't have the technology to lay that kind of rock today with
that stone to, to move it. And, and so I think, I think
you're, you're, you're onto something there.
And, and I, I tend to lean in that direction too, that these
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structures, which we can't buildtoday, that the, the fallen
angels and maybe even the Nephilim, you know, these, these
demigods where, you know, we'll call them a hybrid of, of Angel
and man built these structures. And that's how they were built.
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They were built with, you know, technologies and strength that,
that we don't, we don't no longer, we don't possess, we
can't, we can't duplicate those structures today.
We, we look at them and we just go, there's no way that we
could, we could replicate that thing with the precision that
they did it with the, the massive stones that they laid.
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And so I, I, I fully, I fully believe that, yes, a lot of
these, so we say unexplained buildings, structures all around
the, the earth. And, and some of it's, I think
even, you know, being hidden from us because it'd just be so
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obvious that they let people seeit that, you know, like, I
always wonder what's beyond the ice wall.
You know, let's do that, right? They locked that down. 1959 is
when that treaty came about. And, you know, they can't agree
on much, but they can sure agreeon that, that, you know, nobody
gets to come down there unless we, we get to supervise you and
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tell you where you can go. But I think, I think these,
these structures, buildings, some of these fantastic
buildings we see around the earth that, that we can't build
today. We don't have the technology to
build it today. They're just so massive and
they're so the, it's so intricate.
Yeah, I, I think definitely thatthat that knowledge, that
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expertise to build that was from, from they, the fallen
angels and, and the, the demons,the Nephilim, if you will.
So I think that is a, is a more plausible explanation for some
of these unsolved mysteries. And we go, oh, we have no idea
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how they did this. Well, I, I, I think maybe we can
guess how they did it. And but you have to have a, you
have to have a supernatural, youhave to have a biblical approach
to it, shall we say, an unseen realm approach and realize that
the supernatural realm does exist.
It's very real and it's always been around and it it definitely
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impacts this world. And I think it explains a lot of
what's going on in many aspects of the nations around the earth
with all the drama you see and all the back and forth and, you
know, just the, just the, all the mess, all the killings, you
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know, which, you know, like the Ukraine mess, for instance.
I mean, it's, you know, seems like they love war and they want
to keep it on. I mean, just look how many
people in our government, you know, are just foaming at the
mouth to keep that war going. And we're, you know, we're the
ones keeping it going by giving money and so and weapons.
And so, yeah, it, it explains a lot when you start looking at it
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from a supernatural, the unseen realm point of view, you start
realizing that there were actually 3 falls, the Garden of
Eden, the, the Babble when God scattered the nations and, and
then when he gave, you know, the, the 200 came down and, and
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had and created hybrids. But but, but here's here's some
good news that I always keep in mind when Jesus came 2000 years
ago, when God incarnated as a fully man, fully God.
And created a way of salvation for us to be reconciled with him
by his blood, that if we choose to believe and have believing
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loyalty and just him each day wecan, we can be reconciled.
Basically, Jesus was going on the offensive there.
He was saying, I'm taking back all the nations, they're all
mine. I'm taking them all back.
And so for 2000 years we've beenin an offense, you know, when he
says the gates of hell shall notprevail against it, when he's
talking about his gospel, his revelation of him, you know that
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he's the rock. He is the rock.
He's our foundation stone. It that wasn't a defensive, the
gates of hell that, that, that wasn't talking to defense on the
gates of hell. That was offense that he's, he's
charging the gates of hell with his gospel, taking back the, the
nations, the people of the world.
So that's the good news. Each person can can choose this
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day to, to have just believing loyalty in Jesus and nothing
else that you know, him dying onthe cross to pay the price for
our sins. And if you choose that you will
be saved. And all you have to do is
continue to choose that every day.
It's just it's a it's a choice every day.
It's just him and him only. It's you had nothing to it.
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It's not a it's not being a goodperson.
It's not going to church. It's not given to the poor.
It's not praying a lot there. There's a it's not belonging to
a certain church. If you add anything to it, you
just negate it. The gospel.
You just, you just can't put it down.
It's Jesus and him only and whathe did on the cross for us and
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us choosing to believe it and put all of our faith in him.
So that's the good news is that even though all of this has
occurred, that it's it, it and it's, it's horrible the shape
that the world is in when you look around the earth and you
see what's going on, it's horrible.
But, but the good news is I takegreat comfort in the Psalms
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because if you read the Psalms, you know, there's 150 Psalms.
If you read the Psalms. Well, he lays it out.
He said, I'm, I'm, I'm going to,I won't take it all back.
He says, you know, and I, I willrecompense man in this life and
the one to come. So, so that can be real good
news for each of us that will berecompensed in this life and the
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one to come or or it could be some real bad news for some
people. Yeah, it can be real bad for
some people. Well, yeah, that can be real bad
for some people. But yeah, you're right.
You know, all this, you know, we've got, you know, Bible talks
about these angels falling, you know, regardless of how many
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fell and what they're doing and what they're planning,
obviously, you know, the Bible talks about what's going to
happen in the in the end, you know, Jesus is going to prevail.
He's going to come down and he'sgoing to, you know, Armageddon.
So I mean, so we're good. If if you're saved, you're good.
If you're not saved, you you're going to have problems.
I mean, you're going to, you probably get to meet some of
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those fallen angels right down there in the, in the pit, you
know, in hell. When they get cast down into
hell, you're going to get cast right down in there with them
because, you know, you're not saved.
But anyway, like I said, the good news is, is all it takes is
belief in Jesus Christ asking, you know, asking to admit you're
a Sinner and say, Hey, please save me and you're saved.
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I mean, that's, you know, faith,you know, grace, grace and faith
is all it takes. So that, that's good.
But anyway, we are just about out of time here.
So we've got we had about 45 minutes, we're up to 43.
So do you have any, any, any statements you'd like to closing
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statement or anything here to tell everybody on the way out?
Well, I think that's a good place to to end it is, you know,
to put put your focus on Jesus and believing loyalty in him
each day. It, that's the way it, it is
known is what I like to say. And so that to me, I take great
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comfort in it. And I, I, I just would hate to
be without that, without that saving grace with that
knowledge, knowing it's, it's not based on what I do.
It's, it's not, it's not becauseI deserve it.
And it's not that I merit it in any way or earn it, but it's,
it's his free gift to to me and to each of us, if we choose to
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believe it. And that for me, it, it comes
down to a choice. You have to, you have to choose.
And, and then if, if you, if youdo that, then you will be saved.
And so that I think that's a great place to wrap it up,
Kenny, and always enjoy talking to a fellow brother.
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God bless you. Yeah, I appreciate it.
Appreciate you coming on and yeah, we'll, we'll end it with
that. So if anybody on here he has any
questions or wants to get in contact with you, you can of
course get in contact with me and Truth seekers2012@gmail.com.
You can also go to either one ofthe websites we've got.
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It's flatbro.com and Truth Seekers ministry.org.
And so if you're interested in any more information or whatever
to shoot us over an e-mail and I'd be happy to answer it or
forward anything to Mark if you have any questions for him.
And of course, you can find us both on X and there's links to X
and Patreon and other stuff on those websites.
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So you can find us both on there.
And because we have a, this is available on the website too, if
you're interested in finding a little bit more about the Flat
Earth and the realm that we, we both agree we live on.
So you can find more informationon that on X as well.
So I think that's it. So if you guys have anybody has
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any questions or anything, just give us an e-mail and we'll be
happy to get back in touch with you.
So until then, thanks for listening and God bless you.
Hello, and welcome back to another episode of Mckillsdick
Chronicles. In today's episode, we're
talking again with the Doctor, Mark Faris, and we're going to
be talking a little bit about the watchers in the Book of
Enoch and Fallen Angels. And it's pretty interesting
because I was talking to Mark here the other day on the phone
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and he mentioned this and he hada lot of stuff put together that
I had never really thought about.
And start doing a little bit more research on some of the
documentation that you had sent over to me.
And I think that it's definitelyworth talking about the fallen
angels and how that works in with what's happening today.
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And who's because you know, one of the things you'll hear a lot
of people say is you'll always hear them say they, you know,
like the people controlling stuff.
You know, they don't want you toknow this.
And you, you've got these peoplethat are rich, let's say, and
they always seem to have the same orders to do stuff.
And they're always doing this stuff.
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And it's like, well, somebody's telling them to do this stuff
because there's no way they could do it on their own.
So who are they that's behind this?
And and you have the answer to that, don't you?
Well, I always think of it this way and when when I hear they,
because you hear that thrown around a lot and it and it
certainly does look like a, shall we say, a coordinated
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effort through throughout the earth in all countries.
You know, COVID was a big example of that, just how they
coordinated everything. You know, everybody was in
lockstep with it. And, and so when I, when I hear
the word, they, because that gets thrown around a lot, I
always think about the fallen angels as being kind of the, the
top of the heap for, for controlling this world.
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You know, of course, you know, our, you know, our, our top of
the heap is the most high God. But, but the fallen angels are,
are certainly a factor in what'shappening in this world today.
And I, I think that is the ultimate day behind it.
And, and then they have a, they have a host, you know, hierarchy
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among them and they have demons underneath them.
And we'll, and in this talk today, we'll get into a little
bit about where I believe demonscome from, because angels are
different than demons. They're, they're two separate
spiritual beings and a supernatural beings.
And so when, when I look at the big picture, I, I kind of put it
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together this way, you know, we,we all tend to go back and we
look and we say, well, what, what causes all this mess in the
world? Why, you know, why is it so
messed up? Why is there so much evil in the
world? Why is there so much sin in the
world? Why, why are things as bad as
they are and just seem to get worse over time?
And a lot of people go back to the Garden of Eden and they go,
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well, you know, that's because, you know, you know, Eve bit that
apple when she wasn't supposed to and, or bit that fruit when
she wasn't supposed to because God told them not to.
And then she gave it to Adam and, and he bit it too.
And so they rebelled. And so, OK, that's, that's part
of the answer. OK, Rebellion against God is
part of the answer. And, and God certainly judged
for that. You know, we see that in Genesis
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chapter 3, the the judgement on mankind for that.
But but there's, there's two other faults that that people
tend to maybe, shall we say, notthink about or or maybe don't
even know about. And so this these watchers, you
were just talking about the 200 watchers or, or another fall,
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shall we say a second fall. And I think it's just as
significant of an impact on the the, shall we say, the shape of
the world today as far as, you know, sin and evil.
And just with things being as bad as they are, that second
fall may have had as much or maybe even more of an impact on
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the the world then then that first fall did.
Because when these watchers camedown, we see this in Genesis
chapter 6 in our Bible. It talks about the sons of God
coming down and seeing that the daughters of men were beautiful
and they took them for wives. It says any that they wanted
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they chose and had, you know, sexual relationships with them
and had children with them. And these children were a hybrid
of angels and mankind. And and so they're called the
Nephilim and they say they were,you know, men of renown, men
that were able to do great featsand they were giants.
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Someone were, you know, very large in stature as well, and
very strong and, and, and had had abilities.
And, and so that fall was, was definitely significant.
And when these when these hybridrace was created, I, I think
that may have had as much to do with the great flood, you know,
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when God said, you know, the, the heart of man was just all
continuously evil. But I think we're also the gene
pool got corrupted by these angels coming down and, and
having sexual relationship with women and creating a hybrid, a
genetic hybrid that got that wasnot God's plan at all.
And so he destroyed, he destroyed them.
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And the Book of Enoch has some some great insights on to how
they were destroyed. And then also the great flood,
which was absolutely cleansed the earth and only only eight
people survived the great flood that was nowhere.
His wife, his three sons and their wives.
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But he also says it's interesting.
He says he's nephelon. We're we're around after the
great flood. Right.
So definitely around after. So even after the great flood,
we didn't get rid of them completely.
Right. Well, I'm going to share this
here so anybody can see this. So what you were talking about
here in Genesis, Genesis 61, youknow, and it says, and it came
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to pass when men begin to multiply on the face of the
earth and daughters were born into them, that the sons of God
saw the daughters of men, that they were fair and they took
them wives, all of which they chose.
OK And then we skip down here tosix, four.
And it says there were giants inthe earth in those days and also
and also after that. So we know they were there later
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when the sons of God came into the daughters of men and they
bear children to them. The same became mighty men which
were of old men of renowned. So these are the fallen angels
that you're referring to obviously.
And that is Scripture in the Bible in Genesis.
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Now when you add to that, you can add to in the book of Enoch,
which is not Canon, you know it.It is part of the Apocrypha,
which is in between the Old and New Testament in some Bibles and
omitted from all lots of others.But it actually breaks down very
similar in First Enoch and describes a little more depth if
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it's a if it's accurate to who these fallen angels actually
were and how many of them there were, right?
I mean, so it's showing here in the Book of Enoch that these
sons of God, which are interpreted obviously as angels,
you know, it came down, says thesame thing, but it goes on and
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says states that 200 angels referred to as the watchers were
the ones that were fallen. So according to the Book of
Enoch, we have around 200 of these angels that were basically
kicked out and fallen down to earth.
And they're the ones that start doing this thing with women and
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having these offspring, which were giants.
So. So that's where we obviously get
the 200 from, right? Absolutely.
And those 200 they they had leaders of those 200, they were
divided into groups of 10. And here's something to that is
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interesting is that in addition to these 200 having sexual
relationships with, with the daughters of men and creating a
hybrid offspring, you might, youmight say demigods, you know,
but we, we'll maybe get into that in this talk.
A little bit of how this ties ina little bit with the mythology,
with Greek mythology and Roman mythology.
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But they also gave mankind knowledge that was considered
forbidden knowledge. They, they taught them how to
use metals and make weapons. They taught women how to use
cosmetics and adorn their bodies.
And so, so these, this knowledgethat they gave mankind led to
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warfare, a lot of murder, killing, vanity with, you know,
with just, you know, using, using, making the body, you
know, just more attractive. And then in addition to those
kind of things that the knowledge they gave them, they
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also taught them about sorcery, astrology, divination, knowledge
of herbs and cutting of roots. And so they, they, they were
actually, they were teaching them witchcraft as well.
It's all right, you know, And sothis, this corruption, let's,
let's just think of it like the second fall, you know, So, so we
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go back to that concept of threefalls.
OK, So you got you got the Garden of Eden and then you got
these watchers coming down and, and having sex with women.
But also, you know, they lived with these women.
They lived among mankind. They were, they were able to
take human form and they they imparted a lot of forbidden
knowledge that led to a lot moresin in the world.
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We just like with that weapon making, you know, it basically
gave man the ability to kill, tokill at will.
And, and, and don't you know, wesure see that today.
I mean, that's, that's kind of never ended from that time on.
And you know, the, the weapons, they just get more and more
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sophisticated and they get, you know, they get more and more
accurate and, and more and more,shall we say, efficient at at
killing others. And so these these watchers, I
mean, they were, you know, they rebelled against God.
These, I think it's important tounderstand these, these were
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angels that chose to rebel against God.
So just as mankind rebelled against God, we have here, we
have 200 angels now. Now think about that.
I mean, these angels are in the presence of God.
I mean, you know, they're, they can, you know, go, you know, up
to the throne of God. I mean, they're, you know,
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they're supernatural, you know, they can get above the Dome,
they, the throne of God's on theDome, they can get, they can go
into the presence of and they, and they still chose to rebel.
You know, they, they decided to come down and to, you know, to
do what they wanted to do not, you know, not to do it God's
way, but to do it their way. And so, so God judged him for
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it. And, you know, he imprisoned
them and he said, you know, he, he wasn't, he didn't allow that
to happen. He recompensed them for for the
error of their ways. But the, you know, the, the
damage, the damage was done to mankind.
And I think that's probably as asignificant reason for the great
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flood, as there was just the evil in the world, is that the
gene pool had been corrupted. Right.
Well, that's one of the one of the theories when they talk
about Noah and they talk about, you know, he was perfect and
they're saying, you know, that that could mean that he's
perfect in his DNA, in his gene pool.
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So he had not, him and his family had not intermixed with
these demoniacs or whatever theyare, you know, from these
Nephilim, if you will, or giants.
But now when you say they're imprisoned, I know we have
verses in the Bible that shows that hell was created for the
devil and his angels. Now obviously those angels are
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these fallen angels that we're talking about.
So now, don't we, don't we thinknow based on some other
scriptures, you were telling me that these angels are actually,
they head over countries. So we have roughly 200 fallen
angels and we have roughly 200 countries that they could be
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over ruling them. Yeah, Yeah.
That's, that's a doubt that's leading into the to the third
fall. Let let me before we go there,
let's just cover when we look atthe, the, the book of Enoch, it
says with these angels that they're there was a group of
them that he bound them and he imprisoned them in a desolate
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place. It's like a subterranean place.
We, we, we might think of that as an abyss or Hades, because,
you know, no one's in hell yet. Hell was created for Satan and
his angels, but they're not there yet.
But the leader of these angels, he, he singled him out for the
harsher punishment and he put him in a pit in the, you know,
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subterranean pit. And he actually covered this one
with, with stones, sharp stones.And he is bound there until the
Day of Judgment to will, when he'll be thrown into hell, into
the fire. And so so the.
Enoch. This has been it's not the book
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of Enoch, yes, which the the book of Enoch is is not in our
Canon now in the Ethiopian Church.
It is Canon for the Ethiopian church that at least I think
about the 1st 30 chapters or so is, is Canon in their Bible and
has been, you know, for a long, you know, a long time.
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And so, but for us it's not. But even though it's not Canon
for us, I think I've, I've read the entire book multiple times
and it, it gives a lot of insight, a lot of it gives more
detail into our scriptures. And so I think I think we can
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gain some, some insight and, andsome better understanding of
what's going on behind the scenes by reading the Book of
Enoch and, and looking at what'shappening.
Because when, when you, when youlook at, you know what God says
in the Bible and then you look at the book of Enoch, it
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correlates together very well. It's just, it's just a lot more
detail. So at what point do we get these
fallen angels over the countriesthen?
OK, so let's let's go to Deuteronomy chapter 32, verse 8.
And, and just to give you a little background on this,
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everybody's familiar with the story of the Tower of Babel and
that they were trying to build atower to heaven to reach heaven.
And God came down and confused the languages and scattered the
nations at that point. And so it says in in Deuteronomy
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32, it says verse, this is verse8.
It says when the most high gave to the nations their
inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of
the peoples according to the number of the sons of God, sons
of God are those fault? Those are those are those
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angels. But at this point, when he did
this, I don't think these angelswere fallen.
I don't think these particular angels when God did this, when
he when he confused the languages at Babel, which we
believe there was about 70 nations, 70 different languages,
70 nations created these, these angels at this point, I don't
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think had fallen. I mean, God, God just gave them.
He said, OK, you don't want to follow me.
You know, you don't want to giveme your worship and, and, and
only your believing loyalty to me.
He said, so I'm going to turn you over and let my my sons of
God, my lesser angels created angels rule over you.
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And he and what he did was he hegave these nations, he gave an
Angel over each one. But for his portion, he says,
and verse 9 he says, but the Lord's portion is his people,
Jacob, his allotted heritage. That's the nation of Israel,
which we're grafted into as as believers in Jesus Christ, we
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are grafted into that nation. God's God's people.
We are God's people, part of hisnation, his heritage, because
Jesus came, you know, came and, and paved the way for us with
that. And but these angels were
actually given rule over these nations.
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And eventually what happened is that they decided they wanted to
be worshipped, that they decidedthat, you know, hey, this is
kind of nice being being top dogof a nation.
And you know what, I, I want them to worship me.
I want them to, you know, you know me, I'm the top dog.
And so over time, pride and arrogance consumed these angels.
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Again, these are these are God'screated angels, I mean, that
were able to go into the presence of God and they fail
this, this is the third fall. And so these angels fell, and
then God eventually just basically gets fed up with him.
And where we can see what God said to him, we can go to Psalm
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82. And here's what he says.
He says God standeth in the congregation of the mighty.
He judges, judgeth among the gods.
And he says to him, How long will ye judge unjustly?
And accept the persons of the wicked.
So he's saying, you know, why, why are you acting like this?
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He says, defend the poor and fatherless, do justice to the
afflicted and needy, deliver thepoor and needy, rid them out of
the hand of the wicked. So God's saying you're not doing
your job. You guys have you've fallen down
on the job and you're, you're doing a horrible job of it.
And he says, and he's talking about the people now.
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He says they know not neither will they understand.
They walk on in darkness. All the foundations of the earth
are out, of course. So he's just saying things, you
know, I put you in charge of these these 70 nations and
things are you, you're just dropthe ball.
Things are just gone. I mean, it's horrible what's
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happening. And then he says to them, he
says, I have said, ye are gods and all of you are children of
the Most High. He's talking to us, his angels
now that he put in charge of these nations.
He says, but ye shall die like men and fall like one of the
Princess. And it says, Arise, O God, judge
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the earth, for thou shalt inherit all nations.
So he's telling them that, you know, hey, you didn't you drop
the ball, You didn't do what youwere supposed to do.
And, and so think of this as thethird fall.
So, and so when you, when you look at it, and what's
interesting to me about this is that when you look at it, when
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I, when I look at the Greek mythology, the Roman mythology,
and I see this pantheon of gods and how they fight among
themselves. And there's hierarchy there.
And there's all this, you know, this pride and avarice and
jealousy and positioning for, you know, position.
I think of these, I think of these 70 angels that were given
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charge over the nations at Babeland that eventually they fell.
And like in, in our, in our myths, like the Greek myths and
Roman myths, this is the pantheon.
These are, these are the, the Pantheon's and then the demigods
that you see in, in these myths and these Greek and Roman myths
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would be the Nephilim, you know,these hybrids of angels and men.
And what's interesting to me is you'll see this like I'm, I'm,
I'm, I enjoy books that are historically based and in
ancient Japan, they, they, they call Japan the, the land of the
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gods. Now, why would they call it the
land of the gods? Because a fallen Angel ruled
over that. There were probably more than
one, there could have been multiple fallen angels.
And they believe that their leader in Japan, or you're going
back to the 1600s Japan now was divine that he was part God.
So you see even even in man's history that, you know, we got
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this mixing of the gods and humankind.
The, and there's, you know, our leader, our, our, our emperor of
Japan is divine. He's, he's got part God in him.
And we're the land of the gods. They called themselves the land
of the gods. So all of this kind of this, you
know, you start connecting the dots.
A lot of this stuff ties together.
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And it's interesting because when you look at our scripture,
it's, it's, it's in our scripture.
And as you start connecting the dots in the scripture, you start
seeing, oh, there, there's a lotgoing on.
There's a reason why the world'sso messed up.
It's because they, these fallen angels and, and the demons and,
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and the demons, I believe that the demons or the souls of these
Nephilim when they died, these demigods that was a hybrid
between angels and, and man and mankind of women.
I believe those souls when they departed, they become demons.
They can't be saved. They, they don't.
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It's just like we when we depart, we don't die.
Our soul and spirit lives on. We don't.
It's just, it's just where are we going to live?
None of us die. We just, we leave this physical
body, but we live on. Same with the Nephilim with
these hybrid beads, their, theirsoul and spirit departed, but
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they live on. And I think those are what
demons are. And I think they're in cahoots
with the fallen angels and they,they work together and then
sometimes they don't work together.
They battle each other, they jockey for position, they jockey
for power. They have arguments about who
the head head demon is, who the head fallen Angel is, who has
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control of this nation, who getsto what you know, that is what I
I see happening in the world today is that these nations
truly controlled by they and that they would be the fallen
angels and the demons and then the people or just they're
minions. You know, they're, they're
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minions of them and you know, they, they just, they've fallen
for various reasons, power, money, you know that just the
very, you know, just the sin nature of man.
It's just easy to, it seems easyto corrupt a lot of people.
And I think unless you have the,the Spirit of Jesus Christ
living in any of the Holy Spirit, unless you have that I,
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I, I think we, we, we can be corrupted very easily.
And, and it's, it's evident in the world today.
So, so the three falls, the Garden of Eden, the 200 coming
down, having sex with with womenand giving forbidden knowledge,
the second fall and then the third fall would be when he gave
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these angels charge over the nations and then they decided
they wanted to be worship. And that's that's where I kind
of see where the the Greek, the Greek and Roman pantheons come
from. Right.
Well, having to do with the 200,of course.
That is, again, that comes out of the Book of Enoch as far as
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the numbers are concerned. But what makes that seem like
that could be, you know, accurate is the fact that let's
say that they're over some of these nations.
Now you know that each, each oneof these fallen angels is
possibly the Prince or somethingover a nation.
We have almost 100, almost 200 nations, right, or 200 countries
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that they could possibly be over.
But whether they're all over, something is out of here or
there. But you know, they also we have,
and I have a picture of it here.We have let me find it.
And this is a theory that I've seen many, many times, and that
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is we have all over Earth. I was going to say the planet
Earth, but it's not a planet. All over Earth we have these
craters, and there's approximately 200 of these
craters that they've counted. And they claim these are from
asteroids or meteorites or whatever they're from.
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But the problem with saying an asteroid made these huge craters
is that there's no asteroid around, so they can't find the
asteroid that made the indentment that made the crater.
They can't find any residue of anything.
We just have these giant cratersall over the Earth and there's
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roughly 200 of them. So one of the things that I had
found is they're thinking when these 200 angels actually fell
to Earth, we literally mean we're thrown out and fell and
hit. And when they hit, they created
these craters. So I don't know if you if you've
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heard of that or if you you think that could be accurate.
I, I think it's a very interesting and like I said that
that number 200 is interesting because if you look at the, the
number of nations on the Earth, the US State Department says
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there's 198. So that's, that's right there at
600. And, you know, and Jesus talks
about that, you know, he saw, hesaw Satan being cast out of
heaven, you know, being flung tothe earth.
And you know, he fell, he felt like a Thunderbolt.
And he says, you know, he took athird of the angels with him.
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Now we don't know how many that is it a third could be a whole
lot. OK, you know, it's just a
percentage. We don't.
But he says, you know, his tail that the Dragon's tail swept 1/3
of the stars with him and the stars referring to these sons of
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God angels. So 1/3 chose to rebel with him.
So I, I tend to believe that that nations may have multiple
fallen angels directing them because, you know, fallen angels
can only be at one point at one time.
You know, they're not like God. You know, God knows everything
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all the time. He's, you know, he's omniscient,
he's omnipotent, you know, he's omnipresent.
He's, he knows it all but that. But these angels don't, even
though they're supernatural and they have a lot of power,
they're still limited. Now, now they might go to travel
quickly because you know, they are, they are Elohim.
They are supernatural spiritual beings.
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They, you know, they can take the form of a body, but they
don't, you know, they don't haveto.
And you know, so they can switchback and forth.
And so, you know, there could belike there are multiple fallen
angels and demons. We don't know how many demons
because we don't know how many Nephilim there was.
I mean, there could have been a lot of Nephilim.
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And so it's a, it's interesting too, tying into that with OK,
like the, the, the craters there.
I, and I've seen one of those craters out in Arizona and it,
it is impressive. You can tell something,
something impacted there. And I, I, you know, you look
down there, it's just a big, youknow, it's just a big crater.
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There's nothing there, you know,And so, you know, I, I think a,
a plausible explanation could be, you know, 11 of the, the
angels that were cast out of heaven were literally slung to
earth. And when they hit the earth,
they, they did make an impact. Because, you know, these are,
you know, these are supernaturalbeings.
They, they're very powerful and they, you know, they, they have
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abilities probably beyond our greatest imagination, you know,
for, for, for us, it would seem like they're able to do, you
know, magical things, but for them it's just normal stuff.
They just operate in, in multiple, multiple, you know,
dimensions, shall we say, multiple areas of power.
That's just normal for them. So yeah, that that 200, the 200
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and the 200 nations and then the200 fallen angels when in the
second, the second fall. And it is interesting when you
start connecting the dots, how how those numbers do do kind of
line up with each other. Well, on and then on top of
that, which is this picture thatI have here over there in
Kazakhstan, I think is how you pronounce it.
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You know, they've got a giant pyramid built over there, and in
the top of this pyramid is this room right here.
And it's some kind of a special meeting room.
They've designed that supposedlyfor religious purposes.
And it has 200 seats. And so people are saying that
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this thing here is built for those 200 fallen angels to meet,
whether they're meeting now or or they're planning to meet in
the future. Possibly, you know, when the
Antichrist is revealed, something like that that's
coming up, possibly when these these things can possibly reveal
themselves, then, you know, as what they are and they will have
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a place to go meet. And so they've got a pyramid
built and of course, you can seeit, you can see a whole lot more
pictures, but it's in Kazakhstan.
And I think that's really interesting because they've
mimicked it off of the pyramids over there in Egypt, which is
just full of, you know, Pagan writing.
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You know, the ones that have thehieroglyphics in them.
It's full of Pagan gods and all that stuff, which goes right
back to the pantheon. You know, these so-called
Egyptian gods they were worshipping apparently gave them
information on how to build and do things that, you know, they
can't even do now. Now that's.
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That's an interesting thing. And, and, and so now in the
future, we're still, you know, whether or not I believed it or,
you know, whether or not it's inthe Holy Bible, it's in this
book of Enoch right here. And somebody believes it.
I think because, you know, this book says 200.
We've got the 200 craters, we'vegot the 200 countries, and now
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we've got people building pyramids with 200 seats for a
future meeting. Well, you know, what's the
significance of 200? Well, obviously it's the 200
fallen angels. Now, if these fallen angels are
ruling this earth, you know, of course we know Satan is
ultimately, you know, he, he offered it to Jesus and said,
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Hey, you can have all this if you worship me.
So he's, he's the big dog. Everybody else is underneath
him, obviously. But you know, that's, that's how
these guys are coming up with this stuff.
I think all this technology and stuff, you know, I mean,
they're, they're coming out withtechnology and stuff like you
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wouldn't believe, like you were saying to commit war even, you
know, but I mean, it wasn't verylong ago.
I mean, I had, you know, before the iPhone, it, it, it wasn't
that long ago. It's like we had, you know, in
2000 something, we have an iPhone, the beginning of it.
Before that we have an analog phone.
Five years before that, you don't even have cell phones.
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They don't even exist. And then all of a sudden we've
got one in our hand that, you know, is, is doing everything.
So, but it's funny that a lot ofthis stuff goes back to the old
time like this, you know, when they want to build something
they think is awesome. They built a pyramid and we've
got these pyramids sitting around that have been there
45000 years supposedly. And supposedly the Egyptians
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built them, although nobody can prove how they built them or
anything like that. And so I think some of that
technology from those fallen angels, they're saying, hey,
here's how you do it. They supplied it or helped, and
they're still in power today. You know I.
Think you make a good, good point there.
And when you look at some of these structures around the,
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around the, the world, around the earth, like that, the, some
of the Aztecs that structures, the island of Malta, the
pyramids you mentioned, and there's multiple pyramids all
over the earth, by the way, they're everywhere.
And you, you look at these blocks and, and some of these
blocks, you know, they, they weigh, you know, 20 tons, 30
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tons, 40 tons. I mean, they're huge.
We don't have the technology to lay that kind of rock today with
that stone to, to move it. And, and so I think, I think
you're, you're, you're onto something there.
And, and I, I tend to lean in that direction too, that these
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structures, which we can't buildtoday, that the, the fallen
angels and maybe even the Nephilim, you know, these, these
demigods where, you know, we'll call them a hybrid of, of Angel
and man built these structures. And that's how they were built.
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They were built with, you know, technologies and strength that,
that we don't, we don't no longer, we don't possess, we
can't, we can't duplicate those structures today.
We, we look at them and we just go, there's no way that we
could, we could replicate that thing with the precision that
they did it with the, the massive stones that they laid.
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And so I, I, I fully, I fully believe that, yes, a lot of
these, so we say unexplained buildings, structures all around
the, the earth. And, and some of it's, I think
even, you know, being hidden from us because it'd just be so
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obvious that they let people seeit that, you know, like, I
always wonder what's beyond the ice wall.
You know, let's do that, right? They locked that down. 1959 is
when that treaty came about. And, you know, they can't agree
on much, but they can sure agreeon that, that, you know, nobody
gets to come down there unless we, we get to supervise you and
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tell you where you can go. But I think, I think these,
these structures, buildings, some of these fantastic
buildings we see around the earth that, that we can't build
today. We don't have the technology to
build it today. They're just so massive and
they're so the, it's so intricate.
Yeah, I, I think definitely thatthat that knowledge, that
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expertise to build that was from, from they, the fallen
angels and, and the, the demons,the Nephilim, if you will.
So I think that is a, is a more plausible explanation for some
of these unsolved mysteries. And we go, oh, we have no idea
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how they did this. Well, I, I, I think maybe we can
guess how they did it. And but you have to have a, you
have to have a supernatural, youhave to have a biblical approach
to it, shall we say, an unseen realm approach and realize that
the supernatural realm does exist.
It's very real and it's always been around and it it definitely
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impacts this world. And I think it explains a lot of
what's going on in many aspects of the nations around the earth
with all the drama you see and all the back and forth and, you
know, just the, just the, all the mess, all the killings, you
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know, which, you know, like the Ukraine mess, for instance.
I mean, it's, you know, seems like they love war and they want
to keep it on. I mean, just look how many
people in our government, you know, are just foaming at the
mouth to keep that war going. And we're, you know, we're the
ones keeping it going by giving money and so and weapons.
And so, yeah, it, it explains a lot when you start looking at it
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from a supernatural, the unseen realm point of view, you start
realizing that there were actually 3 falls, the Garden of
Eden, the, the Babble when God scattered the nations and, and
then when he gave, you know, the, the 200 came down and, and
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had and created hybrids. But but, but here's here's some
good news that I always keep in mind when Jesus came 2000 years
ago, when God incarnated as a fully man, fully God.
And created a way of salvation for us to be reconciled with him
by his blood, that if we choose to believe and have believing
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loyalty and just him each day wecan, we can be reconciled.
Basically, Jesus was going on the offensive there.
He was saying, I'm taking back all the nations, they're all
mine. I'm taking them all back.
And so for 2000 years we've beenin an offense, you know, when he
says the gates of hell shall notprevail against it, when he's
talking about his gospel, his revelation of him, you know that
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he's the rock. He is the rock.
He's our foundation stone. It that wasn't a defensive, the
gates of hell that, that, that wasn't talking to defense on the
gates of hell. That was offense that he's, he's
charging the gates of hell with his gospel, taking back the, the
nations, the people of the world.
So that's the good news. Each person can can choose this
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day to, to have just believing loyalty in Jesus and nothing
else that you know, him dying onthe cross to pay the price for
our sins. And if you choose that you will
be saved. And all you have to do is
continue to choose that every day.
It's just it's a it's a choice every day.
It's just him and him only. It's you had nothing to it.
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It's not a it's not being a goodperson.
It's not going to church. It's not given to the poor.
It's not praying a lot there. There's a it's not belonging to
a certain church. If you add anything to it, you
just negate it. The gospel.
You just, you just can't put it down.
It's Jesus and him only and whathe did on the cross for us and
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us choosing to believe it and put all of our faith in him.
So that's the good news is that even though all of this has
occurred, that it's it, it and it's, it's horrible the shape
that the world is in when you look around the earth and you
see what's going on, it's horrible.
But, but the good news is I takegreat comfort in the Psalms
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because if you read the Psalms, you know, there's 150 Psalms.
If you read the Psalms. Well, he lays it out.
He said, I'm, I'm, I'm going to,I won't take it all back.
He says, you know, and I, I willrecompense man in this life and
the one to come. So, so that can be real good
news for each of us that will berecompensed in this life and the
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one to come or or it could be some real bad news for some
people. Yeah, it can be real bad for
some people. Well, yeah, that can be real bad
for some people. But yeah, you're right.
You know, all this, you know, we've got, you know, Bible talks
about these angels falling, you know, regardless of how many
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fell and what they're doing and what they're planning,
obviously, you know, the Bible talks about what's going to
happen in the in the end, you know, Jesus is going to prevail.
He's going to come down and he'sgoing to, you know, Armageddon.
So I mean, so we're good. If if you're saved, you're good.
If you're not saved, you you're going to have problems.
I mean, you're going to, you probably get to meet some of
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those fallen angels right down there in the, in the pit, you
know, in hell. When they get cast down into
hell, you're going to get cast right down in there with them
because, you know, you're not saved.
But anyway, like I said, the good news is, is all it takes is
belief in Jesus Christ asking, you know, asking to admit you're
a Sinner and say, Hey, please save me and you're saved.
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I mean, that's, you know, faith,you know, grace, grace and faith
is all it takes. So that, that's good.
But anyway, we are just about out of time here.
So we've got we had about 45 minutes, we're up to 43.
So do you have any, any, any statements you'd like to closing
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statement or anything here to tell everybody on the way out?
Well, I think that's a good place to to end it is, you know,
to put put your focus on Jesus and believing loyalty in him
each day. It, that's the way it, it is
known is what I like to say. And so that to me, I take great
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comfort in it. And I, I, I just would hate to
be without that, without that saving grace with that
knowledge, knowing it's, it's not based on what I do.
It's, it's not, it's not becauseI deserve it.
And it's not that I merit it in any way or earn it, but it's,
it's his free gift to to me and to each of us, if we choose to
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believe it. And that for me, it, it comes
down to a choice. You have to, you have to choose.
And, and then if, if you, if youdo that, then you will be saved.
And so that I think that's a great place to wrap it up,
Kenny, and always enjoy talking to a fellow brother.
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God bless you. Yeah, I appreciate it.
Appreciate you coming on and yeah, we'll, we'll end it with
that. So if anybody on here he has any
questions or wants to get in contact with you, you can of
course get in contact with me and Truth seekers2012@gmail.com.
You can also go to either one ofthe websites we've got.
(45:29):
It's flatbro.com and Truth Seekers ministry.org.
And so if you're interested in any more information or whatever
to shoot us over an e-mail and I'd be happy to answer it or
forward anything to Mark if you have any questions for him.
And of course, you can find us both on X and there's links to X
and Patreon and other stuff on those websites.
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So you can find us both on there.
And because we have a, this is available on the website too, if
you're interested in finding a little bit more about the Flat
Earth and the realm that we, we both agree we live on.
So you can find more informationon that on X as well.
So I think that's it. So if you guys have anybody has
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any questions or anything, just give us an e-mail and we'll be
happy to get back in touch with you.
So until then, thanks for listening and God bless you.
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