March 14, 2025 • 54 mins
White Alice – The Truth About Long-Range Communication and the Firmament
In this episode, I dive into the White Alice Communication System, a Cold War-era network designed for long-range military communication in Alaska. Officially, they tell us it worked using tropospheric scatter—bouncing radio waves off the atmosphere to send signals over vast distances. But what if that’s not the full story?
I break down how White Alice may have been using the firmament itself as a reflective medium, allowing signals to travel in ways mainstream science won’t acknowledge. If this system could communicate without satellites decades ago, what does that say about the satellites they claim orbit the Earth today? Are modern satellites just an expensive illusion, masking a hidden truth about how communication really works?
Join me as I expose the deception, connect the dots, and challenge the mainstream narrative on space-based technology. This is just the beginning—White Alice Part 1 lays the foundation for a deeper discussion on what they aren’t telling us about our world.
🔹 #WhiteAlice #Firmament #FlatEarth #SatellitesAreFake #NASADeception #TruthSeekers #ConspiracyReality #BiblicalCosmology #SkyDome #RadioWaves #FlatEarthProof
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1234 I told you so that I told you that I told you so that I
told you. Remember when I told you about
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911? Remember when I told you about
Building 7? Remember when I told you about
the fluoride in the water? Yes, I did.
Remember when I told you about the New World?
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Older. Remember that?
Remember when I I told you aboutthe chemtrails in the sky?
Remember when I told you that NASA was full of lies?
Remember when I told you about the Ultramite control?
But I'm just going to say that Itold you.
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So yeah, hello. This is Kenny Williamson and
welcome back to another episode of Mckills Deck Chronicles.
In today's episode, we are goingto be talking about the White
Alice communication system. Now, I don't know if you've ever
heard of the White Alice communication system, but it's a
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pretty interesting little thing and.
I have a. Theory on that system and how it
worked. Now you can obviously get the
information online on how this system supposedly worked, but
I'll tell you I'll tell you my opinion on that here in just a
minute. So to get started on this, let's
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go over a couple of the basics on this thing.
So the White Alice communicationsystem was a United States Air
Force telecommunication network that had 80 radio stations.
Now these radio stations were constructed in Alaska during the
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Cold War, and what they tell youis it used something called
tropospheric scatter for over the horizon communication.
OK, so basically what these things were are large parabolic
disks, which look like giant satellite disks, and they call
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them antennas, of course. So what these things look like
is a giant satellite dish. And when I say giant, I'm
talking like, you know, four or five stories tall, you know, 100
feet wide. And these things are enormous.
And they had eighty of these locations in Alaska.
So if you take a look at some ofthe pictures of these things,
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you will find that they look an awful lot like a gigantic modern
day satellite dish. But these things were installed
in the early 50s. OK, so this was before the
so-called NASA came out with, you know, Space Flight and then
many years before so-called satellites in outer space.
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So these systems connected remote Air Force sites in
Alaska, and they used it for communication and early warning
communication, you know, for what they called the DO line,
which is a distant early warningline.
Or if somebody was to fly over Alaska to try to attack United
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States, they called that the DO line.
OK. These particular facilities were
also used for civilian phone calls.
And according to the documentation, the system was
very advanced for its time, but it became obsolete within 20
years following the advent of satellite communications.
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So what we have is some funny looking dishes that transmit and
receive over long distances and they look like a satellite dish,
but they're not using satellitesin outer space as they claim
because they didn't exist. So they were definitely some
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pretty good technology considering we didn't have
satellites, right? I mean, they are supposedly
bouncing signals off of what's called the troposphere, which is
the lowest, lowest, you know, setting of air or whatever we
have in the atmosphere layers. They claim the troposphere is
the bottom one. We're like airplanes fly and
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birds fly. Now, supposedly this system shot
a signal up into the air and it basically bounced off nothing.
It bounced off of air and so it bounced off of nothing and came
back down and hit a receiver. So I personally don't understand
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how you can bounce a satellite signal, a, you know, radio
signal off of nothing. But as you as you are well aware
of, these are the same people that claim The Big Bang
happened. And of course, The Big Bang
went, you know, we had nothing and it exploded into something.
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So these same, so-called scientists believe that we came
from nothing. Absolutely nothing exploded into
something exploded into everything.
So it doesn't really seem that far fetched to me for them to
say, oh, by the way, we're bouncing a signal off of
nothing. But it works and it works great.
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In fact, these this white Allis system was in in business for a
minimum of 20 years. OK.
And according to the information, it was conceived in
the early 1950s and basically Alaska at that time only had
basic telephone communication systems.
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And they were saying that prior to White Alice being installed,
you could only place one phone call at a time from Nome, AK to
Fairbanks, AK. And this communication
supposedly improved after White Alice was installed.
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OK. But it claims that even in the
mid 60s over there in Alaska, that if you were in Anchorage,
AK, you had to go to one location downtown to place a
phone call to the lower 48 states.
So, you know, they don't have a lot of obviously back then up
into the 60s, they didn't, you know, makes you wonder how they
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how they did this. You know, in Alaska, they've got
you can create one phone call ata time and you have to go into
town to do it in the 60s. But you know, like in 1969, they
claim that the president of the United States made a phone call
to the moon. OK, You know, with with the moon
landing, they claim that, you know, they landed on the moon
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and the president called the moon from the Oval Office on a
telephone, a landline in 1969. Now in the 60s, there was only
one phone call at a time being done in Alaska.
And that's on the ground. That's on the earth.
And you know, they've got this system installed and we're still
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only getting one phone call at atime.
To me that's, I don't know, I, I, I don't know how you could
say you're doing that, but yet you can make a phone call to the
moon. But anyway, I digress on that.
So back to White Alice. So the Air Force is who built
the White Alice communication system with also numerous
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support facilities around the state of Alaska.
And let's see, construction on White Alice began in 1955 and
the system was dedicated in 1958.
And I want to, I want to make a note of that of 1958 because it
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just so happens in 1958 was alsowhen NASA came online.
OK, 1958 is also when the first stories of the Bermuda Triangle
came out. They start telling people that
Bermuda Triangle was a dangerousplace and there had been, you
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know, lots of planes and ships missing in that area.
So basically stay away from it. So as I put out in my book, The
Flat Earth Bible, I make note ofthat as well, that there's a lot
of a lot of strange things kind of start happening all together
in 1958. So in the end of the 50s was,
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you know, was a crazy time for this whole thing to happen.
You know, we have this white Alice communication system get
dedicated, I guess come fully online in some somewhere in
there which they start communicating long distances,
but not via satellite, mind you,not via satellite, not yet.
And NASA comes on board and thenBermuda Triangle comes on board.
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And if you know anything about, you know, the Flat Earth thing,
it's pretty obvious that NASA isshooting its rockets out to
Bermuda. OK, There's only one island out
there, Bermuda Island, and they control it.
And anyway, so they're shooting the Rockets out to Bermuda.
That's, that's what that's what I believe.
So they, when they came online, they had to fabricate a giant
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story to keep people away from that area because that's where
they're shooting the Rockets. They're not going to outer
space. They're going right into the
ocean over there in Bermuda. But anyway, back to White Alice
here. So this thing comes online and
gets dedicated in 1958 in Alaska.
This thing was designed by Western Electric and it says
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that civilian contractors actually maintained it.
And in 1976 this White Alice communication was leased.
To. RCA and by the end of the 1970s,
most of the system was deactivated.
Now most does not mean all. OK so in other words, this thing
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was probably running up into the80s.
So think about that for a minute.
This thing must be working pretty good for it to be used
all that time and they're not about to get rid of it.
So the reason it seems that it was called White Alice to begin
with is that back in those days,in the 50's, the Air Force used
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two word code names and White Alice was the code name selected
for this particular project. They think that it's fairly
certain that White Alice was used to indicate the snowy or or
the word white, not White Alice,but white was used to indicate
the snowy Arctic sites that the system worked on there in
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Alaska. And they are unclear where
Alice, the name Alice originated.
So, you know, they really don't know and I guess on that, but so
this system was named White Alice.
So that's where they got the name.
Now this system was built by theUnited States Army Corps of
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Engineers and Alaska had surveyed and selected each one
of the original sites. And let's see, the selection
process to find these sites basically had survey teams test
the area and the propagation path.
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So by setting up communication towers at each remote site
during the winter months and basically testing how much I
guess, you know, receiving, transmitting and receiving they
could get from each location. So they set something up to do
these tests prior to building these humongous sites.
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Now, again, these things are supposedly bouncing signals off
of the air, OK, off of nothing. So, you know, I don't know how
they could guarantee any signal like that, but supposedly they
did. And of course, they're saying
that the construction of these things were very expensive even
in those days. You know, the first phase cost
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over 110 million, which in the 50s is a lot of money.
Then they're saying that overallthis project cost 300 million.
So that's a, that's a whole lot of money in the 50s, OK, when,
you know, you could buy a brand new car in the 50s for two or
$3000 fully loaded and this thing's costing 300 million in
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the 50s, that's a lot of money. But anyway, so come to find out,
it took twenty people to run oneof these locations.
And 180 a 180 kilowatt generator, so that's 180
thousand Watt generator was having a diesel generator was
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having to run at each location to keep these things running and
that's 80 locations. So I mean, you know, they're
using lots and lots of diesel tokeep these things running for
over 20 years. So that's.
So much for your, you know, yourglobal warming.
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I mean, when it comes to the military or something, they
could absolutely care less. You know, they can, they can run
a diesel engine, you know, all day long, 80 of them out there
for 20 years, a full blast and doesn't doesn't make any
difference. Just like they can, you know,
charge all of their electric vehicles now with big diesel
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generators and claim they're doing something good because
they're driving electric vehiclearound, you know, getting
charged by an 18 Wheeler size diesel generator that's burning
up, you know, 10s of thousands of gallons of diesel fuel.
Can you imagine how much diesel fuel these these white Alice
sites burned over 20 years? Can you imagine probably
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millions of gallons of diesel? But that's that's how they ran
these things because, you know, there's no electricity out
there. They're out on remote locations
in Alaska. So anyway, basically what
they're claiming is that these things shot out, you know, so
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many megahertz, a signal and it basically one dish is aimed and
it would shoot up. And it's not, it's basically up
towards the sky, but not like straight up, but kind of at a
small angle. And wherever that thing would
hit up on the troposphere, say, it would reflect back down to
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another location. And that location was constant.
So once they figured out exactlywhere it was going to come back
down, they could build another station that receives the
signal, point it up in the same direction, and lo and behold,
you've got communication now, they claim.
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That this was, you know, before satellite communication and that
satellites actually made this thing become obsolete because,
you know, why would you need I mean, this is their logic.
Why would you need these giant things running when we could do
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this with a satellite in outer space?
Of course, that doesn't make anysense to me because if you're
reflecting these waves, OK, these transmissions, the
satellite, whatever you're doinghere, these radio waves, you're
reflecting them off the troposphere, OK?
That's what you're claiming, andyou're calling it troposphere,
tropospheric scattering. And it works great.
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And as your technology goes along, you can put more
information in these signals. And the dish gets smaller and
smaller and smaller. You don't need a dish the size
of a building. You can do it with the dish the
size of a car. And then as technology gets a
little further, you can do it with a dish you know, the size
of an umbrella and put more information.
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Everything has got more and moreand more, and it gets smaller
and smaller and smaller. But in order for this to work
according to what we have today is you have to have an actual
satellite floating around in outer space.
Now, if you believe that, OK, I personally don't, But you know,
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in order for you to believe that, you have to believe that
they shot a satellite up into outer space and it is
geocentrically locked to the Earth.
So in other words, they shoot itup into one place and it
develops an orbit around the Earth and it has to maintain
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that orbit with fuel. Supposedly there's fuel on board
of these satellites, and that's what keeps them in their orbit.
OK, So what I did is I did a little bit of research, for
example, on Dish Network, because Dish Network, you know,
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obviously people have these dishes on their.
House. And what's happening here,
according to Dish Network, is they claim that they have 14
satellites in outer space, 14. And what they have is they have
a giant place, and I can't remember exactly where it's at.
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I'd have to look it up again. An uplink area.
That's right, it's in, it's in Cheyenne, WY.
They have a giant uplink center in Cheyenne, WY.
And this thing consists of, let's say 20-30 satellite dishes
and they're all aimed up at different areas.
You can you can look at the picture yourself and Google it.
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So these dishes are supposedly pointing at 14 satellites
orbiting the Earth. Now, the Dish Network has
millions of customers. So if you take, you know, and I
don't know how many million, butlet's say you had 10 million
customers, but you only have four.
Well, actually let's make this easy math.
Let's say you have 14,000,000 customers and you have 14
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satellites. That means each satellite is
running 1,000,000 customers. So this satellite in outer
space, supposedly about the sizeof a car, you know, it is in
outer space, in geocentric orbit.
It has fuel on board that keeps it in that orbit, OK.
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And I'm assuming they're claiming it gets, you know, it's
power to be able to accept a satellite transmission and beam
it back down to 1,000,000 people.
It has to have electricity to dothat, right?
It has to have some form of power.
So I'm sure they're claiming they're getting the power from
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the solar panels. OK, But.
OK, so we've got solar panels inouter space on a box floating
around in outer space, and this box is accepting an uplink from
Dish Network and then it is downloading it to your dish on
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your house. So you're receiving it.
OK? That's what they're claiming
now. We were doing this same thing
before off of the air and didn'tneed a satellite, but now all of
a sudden we need a satellite. OK, now I'm going to stop right
there. I'm going to let you.
I'm going to, I'm going to help you to understand something.
I don't believe there are satellites in outer space, and I
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don't believe that the white Allis system was working off of
nothing. I believe that there's a
firmament above the earth exactly as the Bible describes.
OK. That firmament is describing Job
as a hard molten looking glass. So I think that this firmament
has a reflective value, kind of like a mirror if you will, OK
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it. It can reflect because it's like
a glass hard type surface or reflective in the very least.
I think that the government figured out many, many years ago
that you can aim a signal at thefirmament and depending on where
it hits depends on where it comes back down.
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OK? So it's not like a regular radio
wave that's just in the air thatanybody can pick up.
This is actually being reflectedback down and you have to know
where to look to pick it up. OK.
So in my opinion, This is why ifyou were to get Dish Network or
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DIRECTV or anything else, the the guy comes out and he sees
where your house is, wherever you live.
And he says, Oh well, you know our satellite in outer space,
it's over here at 61.5° W and it's named Echostar.
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And So what I'm going to do is I'm going to aim your dish a
certain level degrees high and at 61.5.
And I've got a little meter here.
And that meter tells him how powerful the signal is being
intercepted. And so, you know, I don't know
if it's 80% a 100%, I don't knowwhat their cut off level is
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there before they'll accept it. And sometimes they'll say, but
we've also got another one over here at 72.7° W.
And so he'll aim it over there and he'll check on his little
meter and he'll be like, oh, OK,well guess what?
You know, this is the better location.
You get a better signal aimed here.
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So what I think is happening is you have Dish Network over there
in Wyoming. They have a dish aimed up at a
point on the firmament where it comes back down is 61.5° W.
They have another dish aimed up at the firmament.
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Where it comes down is 72.7° W They're sending a signal up at
both satellites at the same time.
They're hitting the firmament and being reflected back down.
You take your dish and you aim it at that one spot and
depending on your location and whatever the other contributing
factors are, which I don't know,you're going to get a better
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signal. And so then the guy says, Oh
well, you're getting a better signal here on our echo *5
instead of Echo *10. And he continues to put your
dish in that area. He screws it all down and
tightens all the nuts and bolts.And he has this little meter.
He makes sure it's right. And then they plug it into your
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receiver and voila, you have Dish Network, you have you have
Dish satellite TV. OK, now the technician who is at
your house, I'm assuming 99.9% of them, you know, they have no
idea they're not in on anything.OK, 'cause I can hear somebody
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saying it now saying you mean totell me that Dish Network guy,
he's in on all this, that's ridiculous.
No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying he's just like me or
you or anybody else. He was taught that there are
satellites in outer space, and he believes it.
And when he points his little dish up at the air, he thinks
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he's pointing it to a satellite that is in the exosphere, 6000
miles away. That's what he believes.
And he believes the signal is coming back down from outer
space. That's what he thinks.
And all he's looking for is the best signal.
He sets it up, he's gone. OK, so that's how this thing
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works, in my opinion. They claim that this point
they're aiming at is a satellite, OK.
Well, you know, think think about that for a second.
They're claiming that these satellites they have, this is
Dish. I mean, other other places may
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be different, but this is the research that I did on Dish
Network alone, OK? Dish Network claims that their
satellites typically last from 15 to 20 years.
OK, Now that lifespan depends ona few different factors.
For example, fuel supply, its orbital position according to
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them, and then wear and tear. So, you know, we've got wear and
tear up in outer space. OK, think about this for a
second. The thing that interests me the
most here is fuel supply. According to what they have to
say. If regarding to fuel supply here
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satellites use on board fuel forstation keeping and what that
means is maintaining their position in orbit, they have
fuel. Now, these things must be very
fuel efficient if they can set up there for 20 years and only
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use the fuel that's on board, because these things aren't very
big. So they don't have a very big
fuel tank, obviously. OK.
And once the fuel runs out, the satellite can no longer adjust
its position. OK.
So that that's one of the thingsthat, you know, a factor in the
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lifespan of these satellites. Another thing is solar panel
degradation. So basically, as you would
assume, over time, exposure to solar radiation reduces the
efficiency of a solar panel, which powers the satellite as
far as sending and receiving. OK.
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And we've also got electronics wear and tear, you know, because
the satellite's internal systems, you know, they can tear
up and degrade due to prolonged exposure to space radiation and
extreme temperature. I want, I want you to take a
note of that extreme temperature, OK?
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And then of course, it could also run into something, it
could collide with something that's also orbiting, you know,
debris that's orbiting. And if it collides with this, of
course, it can damage the satellite.
OK, so now this is an interesting thing here regarding
the fuel that we talked about ona satellite.
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OK, so here's what Dish says they do with their satellites,
OK, If the satellite is still working good.
So in other words, it's it's still functions, it's still
transmitting and receiving, but it runs out of fuel.
OK, So if it runs out of fuel, it can no longer, you know,
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maintain its orbit. It says that they move it to
what's called a graveyard orbit.So The thing is run out of fuel,
or I guess maybe proactively it's almost out of fuel.
So they say, oh, we need to moveit.
So they move it to a graveyard orbit that's 300 kilometers
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above it's normal geostationary orbit.
OK, so how it can stay in that orbit, I don't know.
Because it's out of fuel, it can't stay in its other orbit.
So they move it to a different orbit.
So in other words, it never comes down, so you never get to
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see it if if you can picture this.
OK. So of course then it says if
it's no longer functional, it may still remain in the
geostationary position until gravity, you know, slowly alters
its orbit. So in some cases they may try to
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come down, but they burn up in the Earth's atmosphere.
So, I mean, I that's what they teach.
That's what they claim, that's what they teach.
I personally don't believe it. And I tell you, I tell you one
of the reasons that makes this thing so hard to believe is they
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claim that these satellites are up in the exosphere, OK?
The exosphere is between, I don't know, I thought it what it
was, is a couple 1000 kilometersall the way to 10,000
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kilometers. That's where they're at.
And that is basically 6000 milesabove Earth, OK?
They're claiming that in the area where the satellites are
at, you have an average temperature on the high side of
2500°C, which is 4500°F. OK, so this satellite is flying
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in an area for 15 to 20 years. That's almost what, OK, It says
4532. That's the high side.
But let's just to be very generous here, OK, very
generous. Let's pull that back down to how
about 3000? Or I tell you what, let's be
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super nice and say, you know what?
It's up to 4532 Fahrenheit. But let's say it just so happens
this satellite got into a reallygood area of outer space and
it's only 2500°F. That's all just 2500° because it
could be 4500, but we're going to say 2500, you know, to give
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everybody a nice fair benefit ofthe doubt, right?
So we have our satellite in 2500° and like they said, you
know, they're, they could have solar panel degradation.
Really. You think, what are the solar
panels made out of? I mean, the framework that holds
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this thing out is probably made out of aluminum, right?
Titanium, magnesium. I mean, what else could it be?
It has to be lightweight or they'll never get this thing off
the ground to get it in outer space.
But, you know, aluminum melts at1200°F now it's in 2500°.
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So if it was made of aluminum, it would turn into liquid.
You know, titanium melts at 3000°F.
So, you know, maybe titanium in some areas, but then again, this
this is actually goes up to 4500°F.
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So it gets an an additional 1500° above the melting point of
titanium. And that's titanium.
Did I say magnesium? Well, it's titanium.
Titanium is steel, you know, I mean, it's, it's pretty tough
stuff. So if it was made out of
titanium, it could handle up to 3000°.
But we know that a, you know, weknow a solar panel is not made
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out of titanium. It's made out of all different
stuff, but it's got composite onit.
You know, that stuff melts at a pretty low temperature.
You know, we have gold. They claim that the electronics
in lots of these satellites are made out of gold.
They're gold plated because thathelps with heat and it helps
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with some kind of interference. Well, gold melts at 1948°F, so
it couldn't last in 2500°. So, you know, of course, lead,
we don't wait. There's probably no lead in it
and leads too heavy, but it melts at 621°.
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You know, because I've read before that they would have to
have like so many inches of leadin some of this stuff to protect
the stuff from radiation. Well, lead is very heavy and it
melts at a very low, very low temperature.
So lead is not going to make it very long.
It's going to literally melt andrun out into outer space.
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And of course, magnesium, it's, it melts at 1200° about like
aluminum. And so you're like, well, maybe
they put some steel up there. Maybe the satellite's made out
of steel. Well, steel varies, but right
around 1300° it starts melting depending on the steel.
OK, obviously stainless steel isbetter, but steel is very heavy.
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So we have satellites in outer space that are circling around
in the exosphere 6000 miles away.
These satellites are about the size of an automobile, and they
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actually claim that you can lookup in the air at certain times
at night and see a satellite flyby 6000 miles away the size of a
car. Now, if you think about this for
a second, you understand that ifyou look up at a jet airplane
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flying over like a 747, OK, they're only flying at like 30
to 40,000 feet, which is let's say 7 miles high, OK, roughly 7
miles off the ground, if they'reeven that.
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So 30, some 1000 feet and you can see a 747, which is a very
big machine compared to a satellite.
And you know, it looks like a speck in the sky, just a dot.
And if it's lower, you can make it out pretty good.
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But majority of the time you canjust see a little bitty dot
flying across the sky depending on its altitude.
And that's a 747. OK, so they're claiming that
these satellites, which are again, the size of a car, you
can see them and they're 6000 miles away, not 6000 feet, 6000
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miles. So if you, like I said, if you,
if you really stop and think about the stuff that they're
telling you, if you have this other information, I think
you're probably going to come tothe conclusion that somebody's
lying, OK, about something. So it makes you wonder, you
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know, we know they can do the same kind of communication.
It works in the same way. And that's what they did with
the white Allis communication system before satellites.
These things look like satellitedishes.
OK, now let's jump forward to current 2025.
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I googled it and I found severalpictures of the same technology
being used today and I have pictures of it, but obviously
you can't see it on here. The military still uses it and
they call it truffle. You know, truffle scatter,
whatever, truffle spheric scatter machine.
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And it's nothing more than a couple of small satellite dishes
attached to some military vehicle.
And they claim they are doing the same thing as they did with
White Alice. They're just doing it out in the
desert or they're doing it wherever because it still works
just fine. And literally, it's a satellite
dish. But this one's not a satellite.
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This is tropospheric scattering.So we're bouncing this signal
off nothing instead of a satellite in outer space.
My question is, why? I mean, if you've supposedly got
satellites, like there's supposedly thousands of them up
there now, thousands and thousands of these satellites in
the military probably owns a high majority of them or leasing
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them or whatever they're doing supposedly.
Why would you bother bouncing satellite signals or any kind of
signal off of nothing, you know,off of the air?
Why don't you just go ahead and shoot it up to the satellite and
shoot it back down? For some reason they don't do
that. I personally don't know why they
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don't just claim they're doing it.
I don't understand that. Maybe, maybe a military person
can explain that to me. Why bother with tropospheric
scattering that supposedly the the stuff is obsolete from the
50s but we're still using it today.
But we also supposedly have satellites in outer space which
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caused the tropospheric scattering to go obsolete.
OK, maybe, just maybe, there areno such thing as satellites in
outer space, OK, And all of these people are bouncing
signals off of the firmament andthey always have been.
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OK, So if that's true, everything they tell you about
moon landing, Mars landings, International Space Station is
all fake. So the only reason I in my mind
other than the devil. Trying to mislead you in every
way that he can. Other than that, the only reason
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they would be doing this is for money.
Because you, you can think aboutthis as a, as a giant money
laundering system, you know, andlet's, let's go with NASA first.
So NASA's huge, their budgets, you know, depending on where you
read, depends on the number you find, but it's anywhere from
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65,000,000 to $75 million a day is their budget.
So they have all these people working for them and you know,
that are getting rich, multimillionaires.
They're not supposed to be getting rich.
But somehow all these people, you know, we've all seen this on
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the news recently. All these people are getting
kickbacks and getting paid millions of dollars for doing
nothing. OK, So we know it's happened in
there too. And so, but they claim the money
is going to this very expensive space travel.
So most people don't see any of this space travel.
All they get are videos and CGI pictures of, you know, planets
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out in outer space, you know, fake space stations with
astronauts hanging on wires, allkinds of glitches that can't
happen in outer space, bubbles in outer space is clearly being
filmed in a pool. The list goes on and on and on.
So in other words, they're taking that money and it's not
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being spent on what they claim. They claim they have all these
very big expenses, but if they didn't have those expenses and
everything you got was fake and CGI, your actual spending, you
know, your output would be very little.
So you've got a huge incoming incoming tax, you know, incoming
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money from from taxes, but your outgoing is very little because
you don't really do any of the stuff you say.
You just pretend you do it and instead you get to keep the
money and you get to be a multi millionaire, you know, and live
like a king. That's that's that's one
thought. So picture a business though,
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like like Dish Network. And I'm not saying they're doing
this. I don't know, but picture if you
had this business and now the government can't get on to you.
The IRS can't stop you because the government wants you to
believe in satellites. So they have to claim there are
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satellites so they can, they can't argue and say no, there's
not. You're lying.
They have to go along. So that's perfect for your
business. See, all you have to say is
look, I've got, I've got a really big expense here.
I've got 14 satellites in outer space.
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Do you know how much those things cost me?
Oh, billions. So I need big tax write offs
because I've got all this money going to satellites in outer
space. Now you can't see them, you
can't touch them, nothing. But they're there supposedly and
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I can prove to you it's there. I'm going to send a signal up
and it's going to come back down.
See, there's all my proof. That's all the proof I need.
So that sounds like a pretty good, a pretty good business
model. If you want to RIP people off,
you know, you can basically sendyour signal up, bounce it back
down the satellite dishes off ofthe firmament and you know,
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charge your customer, which of course they are supplying the
dish and the equipment and you know, it's, you know, it's where
nobody, it's not where just anybody can intercept it.
It's encrypted. And that's what I'm trying to
say so that the data is encrypted.
So you know, you have to have programmers that can encrypt and
know what to do and you have to have your you have to have your,
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you know, your machine that sends it.
You have to have your Dish Network box and everything that
receives it. So there is money involved.
Yes, lots of money, but you know, then if you say, oh, but
by the way, this year we had another satellite go down and
that cost us another 100 million.
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So you've got some really, really good tax write offs.
So if a person wanted to, you know, RIP the government off as
far as taxes and make tons of money and claim it's being spent
when it's really padding somebody's pocket.
I mean, hey, claim you've got a satellite in outer space,
especially, you know, if you're bouncing it off of the
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firmament, the firmament's free.It's just setting up there.
So in my opinion, that's why other than complete Satanic, you
know, being deceived by Satan, other than that, I think that
sounds like a really good reasonwhy somebody would want to get
on board with this. You know, hey, get on board with
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this and let's claim we need a satellite and nobody can get on
to us and nobody can call us outbecause all these upper people,
all the government are claiming satellites exist so they can't
call you a liar. Now, are they going to put their
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claws into your business? I think so.
That's what I believe 'cause youknow, we let's go back to Dish
again. According to what I read about
this Dish Network deal, OK, on this huge satellite uplink that
they have, you know, the government is doing some stuff
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with them on that and supposedlyis giving them huge grants, like
6,000,060 million. I mean, it's huge amounts of
money the government is putting in this stuff for some reason.
So what I think is the government has their hand in all
of this. And so they make sure they get
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their hand out by making sure this company makes money and
gets lots of, you know, gets lots of IRS tax breaks for all
the money it's spending. And then the government has to
come in and subsidized and the government also gives them large
amounts of money. Why?
I don't know why the government would need to give, you know,
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something to do with, you know, TV.
Why the government has to give them grants, I would.
I don't understand unless they're padding people's
pockets. So you've got the big owner of
Dish Network or whoever is in charge, they actually know the
truth. They're accepting the money.
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They're giving kickbacks to the government of these government
officials, and they keep this whole big charade going.
And yes, you do get your TV. I mean, they, they, they really
are sending up signals to the firmament and they really are
bouncing back down to your TV. And they can do that with
satellite, you know, satellite Internet, satellite TV, They can
do that with satellite audio, like the satellite in your car
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that picks up, you know, Sirius satellite.
They can do that with, with anything, any kind of
information can be bounced off the firmament at any time and
you have to be underneath of it to receive it.
OK, they're doing it, but I don't believe that it's
satellites in outer space. And I believe that this white
Alice system that was in place for over 20 years called
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tropospheric scattering, that the government, the military is
supposedly still using it to this very day.
I believe that proves that they don't need satellites in outer
space to get this job done. OK, they're doing it without the
satellites. They were doing it before the
satellites and I don't think there are any satellites.
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I think that it's a a hoax. It's a giant money laundering
hoax is that's what I think it is.
Now that is my humble opinion, OK, I am obviously no expert on
any of that stuff, but I believethat it's fake.
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Now obviously you can believe whatever you want, but I believe
it's fake. So anyway, I think that's all I
had to cover. So I hope on this podcast that
you have a grasp of knowledge. Now you can grasp what White
Alice is, what it was, what it, what it's doing, how it worked,
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and how I believe it proves there's no need for a satellite.
And that's how we're doing the stuff we're doing today.
Now, also, you know, NASA has hot air balloons.
They have lots of hot air balloons.
NASA is one of the largest purchasers of helium in the
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world. And so there are lots of
balloons flying around that are doing some of this stuff.
Now, obviously, like Dish Network and other dish places,
you know, you take your dish at your house, it's pointed up, it
stays in the same place for 10 years.
So obviously that's not a balloon because these balloons
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are moving around. But as far as doing other things
like taking pictures of Earth, like Google Earth, you know, I,
they're not using a satellite and they're probably not using
the firmament. I believe they are using a
helium balloon type satellite. And they're also using drones.
OK, they're using airplanes thatfly back and forth, back and
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forth to get this stuff done. And they're using satellite type
balloons, but they're not using satellites in outer space.
There's no such thing. For example, you know, Google
Earth, they, they do all your routes and all your houses and
how you get the, the Street View, the, the Google machines,
the cars are driving around all the time.
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I've seen hundreds of them in different areas.
They've got cameras all over them.
And these people just drive these cars all over the place.
They drive down every street, every road and it films
everything. And that's where they're getting
their pictures. They're not getting these Rd.
pictures and you know, ground level pictures from a satellite
in outer space. They're getting it from a
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Chevrolet car driving up and down the roads.
And you can see that for yourself, and you can do a
simple Google search and you cansee the Google drones they're
using with cameras all over themto take pictures of your house.
And they're probably using balloons as well, satellite
balloons. But they're not using satellites
in outer space. In outer space.
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OK. That's my belief, I think.
I think it's verifiable. If you want to know more
information on that kind of stuff.
I have videos, quite a few videos on my website and putting
on more all the time on it's a flat bro.com.
You go check that out. There's a lot of videos on
there. On the bottom of the page,
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And also on the bottom of the page is a link to Patreon,
YouTube, and X. And I have this same podcast
only in a video form that I posted on YouTube, like I said
on X. Well, there's a link on X on
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YouTube, TikTok, Patreon and Rumble.
And I actually show you the pictures of everything that I'm
talking about. Now it is going to be a two-part
series because it's taking a little longer because I've got
pictures and I am saying a few things different because this is
a audio only and the other and you know, it's is recorded on a
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So if you want to see the pictures and stuff, go to
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the links at the bottom of the website and it will take you to
the same videos. OK.
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you can go on the Patreon and donate if you want.
But as always, this stuff is always 100% for free.
So anyway, having said all that,I hope that this helped you.
I hope that you know some of this stuff, it is not, well, I
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say it's not Bible related. I believe that it's it's
biblical cosmology. But this stuff is not salvation
issue, OK? You don't have to.
It doesn't matter if you believein satellites and outer space or
you believe in balloons, It really doesn't make any
difference as far as your salvation is concerned.
You can still be saved. You can still believe in Jesus
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Christ and all the above withoutbelieving anything about Flat
Earth, without believing anything about satellites and
NASA. Some people could care less.
I think it's very interesting. I think it has to do with
discernment and you know, if I think that if they can fool you
on all these different levels, they can, they can just about
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tell you anything. So this has something to think
about. So if you're interested, you
want to know more, give me an e-mail.
My e-mail address is truthseekers2012@gmail.com.
Again, check out the website. You can get in, contact me with
on any one of those. And you can check out the Flat
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There's a link, it's on Amazon, but it's on the website as well.
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So thanks for listening. If you have any comments,
questions, anything like that, give me an e-mail.
Thanks again and God bless you. It hurts.
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The dinosaur fraud, the climate change scam.
And yes, Sancho Malak is also a man.
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Remember when I told you about the New World?
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So yeah, hello. This is Kenny Williamson and
welcome back to another episode of Mckills Deck Chronicles.
In today's episode, we are goingto be talking about the White
Alice communication system. Now, I don't know if you've ever
heard of the White Alice communication system, but it's a
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pretty interesting little thing and.
I have a. Theory on that system and how it
worked. Now you can obviously get the
information online on how this system supposedly worked, but
I'll tell you I'll tell you my opinion on that here in just a
minute. So to get started on this, let's
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go over a couple of the basics on this thing.
So the White Alice communicationsystem was a United States Air
Force telecommunication network that had 80 radio stations.
Now these radio stations were constructed in Alaska during the
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Cold War, and what they tell youis it used something called
tropospheric scatter for over the horizon communication.
OK, so basically what these things were are large parabolic
disks, which look like giant satellite disks, and they call
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them antennas, of course. So what these things look like
is a giant satellite dish. And when I say giant, I'm
talking like, you know, four or five stories tall, you know, 100
feet wide. And these things are enormous.
And they had eighty of these locations in Alaska.
So if you take a look at some ofthe pictures of these things,
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you will find that they look an awful lot like a gigantic modern
day satellite dish. But these things were installed
in the early 50s. OK, so this was before the
so-called NASA came out with, you know, Space Flight and then
many years before so-called satellites in outer space.
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So these systems connected remote Air Force sites in
Alaska, and they used it for communication and early warning
communication, you know, for what they called the DO line,
which is a distant early warningline.
Or if somebody was to fly over Alaska to try to attack United
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States, they called that the DO line.
OK. These particular facilities were
also used for civilian phone calls.
And according to the documentation, the system was
very advanced for its time, but it became obsolete within 20
years following the advent of satellite communications.
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So what we have is some funny looking dishes that transmit and
receive over long distances and they look like a satellite dish,
but they're not using satellitesin outer space as they claim
because they didn't exist. So they were definitely some
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pretty good technology considering we didn't have
satellites, right? I mean, they are supposedly
bouncing signals off of what's called the troposphere, which is
the lowest, lowest, you know, setting of air or whatever we
have in the atmosphere layers. They claim the troposphere is
the bottom one. We're like airplanes fly and
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birds fly. Now, supposedly this system shot
a signal up into the air and it basically bounced off nothing.
It bounced off of air and so it bounced off of nothing and came
back down and hit a receiver. So I personally don't understand
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how you can bounce a satellite signal, a, you know, radio
signal off of nothing. But as you as you are well aware
of, these are the same people that claim The Big Bang
happened. And of course, The Big Bang
went, you know, we had nothing and it exploded into something.
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So these same, so-called scientists believe that we came
from nothing. Absolutely nothing exploded into
something exploded into everything.
So it doesn't really seem that far fetched to me for them to
say, oh, by the way, we're bouncing a signal off of
nothing. But it works and it works great.
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In fact, these this white Allis system was in in business for a
minimum of 20 years. OK.
And according to the information, it was conceived in
the early 1950s and basically Alaska at that time only had
basic telephone communication systems.
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And they were saying that prior to White Alice being installed,
you could only place one phone call at a time from Nome, AK to
Fairbanks, AK. And this communication
supposedly improved after White Alice was installed.
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OK. But it claims that even in the
mid 60s over there in Alaska, that if you were in Anchorage,
AK, you had to go to one location downtown to place a
phone call to the lower 48 states.
So, you know, they don't have a lot of obviously back then up
into the 60s, they didn't, you know, makes you wonder how they
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how they did this. You know, in Alaska, they've got
you can create one phone call ata time and you have to go into
town to do it in the 60s. But you know, like in 1969, they
claim that the president of the United States made a phone call
to the moon. OK, You know, with with the moon
landing, they claim that, you know, they landed on the moon
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and the president called the moon from the Oval Office on a
telephone, a landline in 1969. Now in the 60s, there was only
one phone call at a time being done in Alaska.
And that's on the ground. That's on the earth.
And you know, they've got this system installed and we're still
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only getting one phone call at atime.
To me that's, I don't know, I, I, I don't know how you could
say you're doing that, but yet you can make a phone call to the
moon. But anyway, I digress on that.
So back to White Alice. So the Air Force is who built
the White Alice communication system with also numerous
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support facilities around the state of Alaska.
And let's see, construction on White Alice began in 1955 and
the system was dedicated in 1958.
And I want to, I want to make a note of that of 1958 because it
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just so happens in 1958 was alsowhen NASA came online.
OK, 1958 is also when the first stories of the Bermuda Triangle
came out. They start telling people that
Bermuda Triangle was a dangerousplace and there had been, you
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know, lots of planes and ships missing in that area.
So basically stay away from it. So as I put out in my book, The
Flat Earth Bible, I make note ofthat as well, that there's a lot
of a lot of strange things kind of start happening all together
in 1958. So in the end of the 50s was,
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you know, was a crazy time for this whole thing to happen.
You know, we have this white Alice communication system get
dedicated, I guess come fully online in some somewhere in
there which they start communicating long distances,
but not via satellite, mind you,not via satellite, not yet.
And NASA comes on board and thenBermuda Triangle comes on board.
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And if you know anything about, you know, the Flat Earth thing,
it's pretty obvious that NASA isshooting its rockets out to
Bermuda. OK, There's only one island out
there, Bermuda Island, and they control it.
And anyway, so they're shooting the Rockets out to Bermuda.
That's, that's what that's what I believe.
So they, when they came online, they had to fabricate a giant
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story to keep people away from that area because that's where
they're shooting the Rockets. They're not going to outer
space. They're going right into the
ocean over there in Bermuda. But anyway, back to White Alice
here. So this thing comes online and
gets dedicated in 1958 in Alaska.
This thing was designed by Western Electric and it says
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that civilian contractors actually maintained it.
And in 1976 this White Alice communication was leased.
To. RCA and by the end of the 1970s,
most of the system was deactivated.
Now most does not mean all. OK so in other words, this thing
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was probably running up into the80s.
So think about that for a minute.
This thing must be working pretty good for it to be used
all that time and they're not about to get rid of it.
So the reason it seems that it was called White Alice to begin
with is that back in those days,in the 50's, the Air Force used
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two word code names and White Alice was the code name selected
for this particular project. They think that it's fairly
certain that White Alice was used to indicate the snowy or or
the word white, not White Alice,but white was used to indicate
the snowy Arctic sites that the system worked on there in
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Alaska. And they are unclear where
Alice, the name Alice originated.
So, you know, they really don't know and I guess on that, but so
this system was named White Alice.
So that's where they got the name.
Now this system was built by theUnited States Army Corps of
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Engineers and Alaska had surveyed and selected each one
of the original sites. And let's see, the selection
process to find these sites basically had survey teams test
the area and the propagation path.
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So by setting up communication towers at each remote site
during the winter months and basically testing how much I
guess, you know, receiving, transmitting and receiving they
could get from each location. So they set something up to do
these tests prior to building these humongous sites.
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Now, again, these things are supposedly bouncing signals off
of the air, OK, off of nothing. So, you know, I don't know how
they could guarantee any signal like that, but supposedly they
did. And of course, they're saying
that the construction of these things were very expensive even
in those days. You know, the first phase cost
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over 110 million, which in the 50s is a lot of money.
Then they're saying that overallthis project cost 300 million.
So that's a, that's a whole lot of money in the 50s, OK, when,
you know, you could buy a brand new car in the 50s for two or
$3000 fully loaded and this thing's costing 300 million in
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the 50s, that's a lot of money. But anyway, so come to find out,
it took twenty people to run oneof these locations.
And 180 a 180 kilowatt generator, so that's 180
thousand Watt generator was having a diesel generator was
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having to run at each location to keep these things running and
that's 80 locations. So I mean, you know, they're
using lots and lots of diesel tokeep these things running for
over 20 years. So that's.
So much for your, you know, yourglobal warming.
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I mean, when it comes to the military or something, they
could absolutely care less. You know, they can, they can run
a diesel engine, you know, all day long, 80 of them out there
for 20 years, a full blast and doesn't doesn't make any
difference. Just like they can, you know,
charge all of their electric vehicles now with big diesel
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generators and claim they're doing something good because
they're driving electric vehiclearound, you know, getting
charged by an 18 Wheeler size diesel generator that's burning
up, you know, 10s of thousands of gallons of diesel fuel.
Can you imagine how much diesel fuel these these white Alice
sites burned over 20 years? Can you imagine probably
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millions of gallons of diesel? But that's that's how they ran
these things because, you know, there's no electricity out
there. They're out on remote locations
in Alaska. So anyway, basically what
they're claiming is that these things shot out, you know, so
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many megahertz, a signal and it basically one dish is aimed and
it would shoot up. And it's not, it's basically up
towards the sky, but not like straight up, but kind of at a
small angle. And wherever that thing would
hit up on the troposphere, say, it would reflect back down to
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another location. And that location was constant.
So once they figured out exactlywhere it was going to come back
down, they could build another station that receives the
signal, point it up in the same direction, and lo and behold,
you've got communication now, they claim.
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That this was, you know, before satellite communication and that
satellites actually made this thing become obsolete because,
you know, why would you need I mean, this is their logic.
Why would you need these giant things running when we could do
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this with a satellite in outer space?
Of course, that doesn't make anysense to me because if you're
reflecting these waves, OK, these transmissions, the
satellite, whatever you're doinghere, these radio waves, you're
reflecting them off the troposphere, OK?
That's what you're claiming, andyou're calling it troposphere,
tropospheric scattering. And it works great.
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And as your technology goes along, you can put more
information in these signals. And the dish gets smaller and
smaller and smaller. You don't need a dish the size
of a building. You can do it with the dish the
size of a car. And then as technology gets a
little further, you can do it with a dish you know, the size
of an umbrella and put more information.
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Everything has got more and moreand more, and it gets smaller
and smaller and smaller. But in order for this to work
according to what we have today is you have to have an actual
satellite floating around in outer space.
Now, if you believe that, OK, I personally don't, But you know,
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in order for you to believe that, you have to believe that
they shot a satellite up into outer space and it is
geocentrically locked to the Earth.
So in other words, they shoot itup into one place and it
develops an orbit around the Earth and it has to maintain
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that orbit with fuel. Supposedly there's fuel on board
of these satellites, and that's what keeps them in their orbit.
OK, So what I did is I did a little bit of research, for
example, on Dish Network, because Dish Network, you know,
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obviously people have these dishes on their.
House. And what's happening here,
according to Dish Network, is they claim that they have 14
satellites in outer space, 14. And what they have is they have
a giant place, and I can't remember exactly where it's at.
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I'd have to look it up again. An uplink area.
That's right, it's in, it's in Cheyenne, WY.
They have a giant uplink center in Cheyenne, WY.
And this thing consists of, let's say 20-30 satellite dishes
and they're all aimed up at different areas.
You can you can look at the picture yourself and Google it.
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So these dishes are supposedly pointing at 14 satellites
orbiting the Earth. Now, the Dish Network has
millions of customers. So if you take, you know, and I
don't know how many million, butlet's say you had 10 million
customers, but you only have four.
Well, actually let's make this easy math.
Let's say you have 14,000,000 customers and you have 14
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satellites. That means each satellite is
running 1,000,000 customers. So this satellite in outer
space, supposedly about the sizeof a car, you know, it is in
outer space, in geocentric orbit.
It has fuel on board that keeps it in that orbit, OK.
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And I'm assuming they're claiming it gets, you know, it's
power to be able to accept a satellite transmission and beam
it back down to 1,000,000 people.
It has to have electricity to dothat, right?
It has to have some form of power.
So I'm sure they're claiming they're getting the power from
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the solar panels. OK, But.
OK, so we've got solar panels inouter space on a box floating
around in outer space, and this box is accepting an uplink from
Dish Network and then it is downloading it to your dish on
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your house. So you're receiving it.
OK? That's what they're claiming
now. We were doing this same thing
before off of the air and didn'tneed a satellite, but now all of
a sudden we need a satellite. OK, now I'm going to stop right
there. I'm going to let you.
I'm going to, I'm going to help you to understand something.
I don't believe there are satellites in outer space, and I
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don't believe that the white Allis system was working off of
nothing. I believe that there's a
firmament above the earth exactly as the Bible describes.
OK. That firmament is describing Job
as a hard molten looking glass. So I think that this firmament
has a reflective value, kind of like a mirror if you will, OK
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it. It can reflect because it's like
a glass hard type surface or reflective in the very least.
I think that the government figured out many, many years ago
that you can aim a signal at thefirmament and depending on where
it hits depends on where it comes back down.
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OK? So it's not like a regular radio
wave that's just in the air thatanybody can pick up.
This is actually being reflectedback down and you have to know
where to look to pick it up. OK.
So in my opinion, This is why ifyou were to get Dish Network or
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DIRECTV or anything else, the the guy comes out and he sees
where your house is, wherever you live.
And he says, Oh well, you know our satellite in outer space,
it's over here at 61.5° W and it's named Echostar.
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And So what I'm going to do is I'm going to aim your dish a
certain level degrees high and at 61.5.
And I've got a little meter here.
And that meter tells him how powerful the signal is being
intercepted. And so, you know, I don't know
if it's 80% a 100%, I don't knowwhat their cut off level is
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there before they'll accept it. And sometimes they'll say, but
we've also got another one over here at 72.7° W.
And so he'll aim it over there and he'll check on his little
meter and he'll be like, oh, OK,well guess what?
You know, this is the better location.
You get a better signal aimed here.
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So what I think is happening is you have Dish Network over there
in Wyoming. They have a dish aimed up at a
point on the firmament where it comes back down is 61.5° W.
They have another dish aimed up at the firmament.
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Where it comes down is 72.7° W They're sending a signal up at
both satellites at the same time.
They're hitting the firmament and being reflected back down.
You take your dish and you aim it at that one spot and
depending on your location and whatever the other contributing
factors are, which I don't know,you're going to get a better
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signal. And so then the guy says, Oh
well, you're getting a better signal here on our echo *5
instead of Echo *10. And he continues to put your
dish in that area. He screws it all down and
tightens all the nuts and bolts.And he has this little meter.
He makes sure it's right. And then they plug it into your
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receiver and voila, you have Dish Network, you have you have
Dish satellite TV. OK, now the technician who is at
your house, I'm assuming 99.9% of them, you know, they have no
idea they're not in on anything.OK, 'cause I can hear somebody
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saying it now saying you mean totell me that Dish Network guy,
he's in on all this, that's ridiculous.
No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying he's just like me or
you or anybody else. He was taught that there are
satellites in outer space, and he believes it.
And when he points his little dish up at the air, he thinks
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he's pointing it to a satellite that is in the exosphere, 6000
miles away. That's what he believes.
And he believes the signal is coming back down from outer
space. That's what he thinks.
And all he's looking for is the best signal.
He sets it up, he's gone. OK, so that's how this thing
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works, in my opinion. They claim that this point
they're aiming at is a satellite, OK.
Well, you know, think think about that for a second.
They're claiming that these satellites they have, this is
Dish. I mean, other other places may
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be different, but this is the research that I did on Dish
Network alone, OK? Dish Network claims that their
satellites typically last from 15 to 20 years.
OK, Now that lifespan depends ona few different factors.
For example, fuel supply, its orbital position according to
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them, and then wear and tear. So, you know, we've got wear and
tear up in outer space. OK, think about this for a
second. The thing that interests me the
most here is fuel supply. According to what they have to
say. If regarding to fuel supply here
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satellites use on board fuel forstation keeping and what that
means is maintaining their position in orbit, they have
fuel. Now, these things must be very
fuel efficient if they can set up there for 20 years and only
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use the fuel that's on board, because these things aren't very
big. So they don't have a very big
fuel tank, obviously. OK.
And once the fuel runs out, the satellite can no longer adjust
its position. OK.
So that that's one of the thingsthat, you know, a factor in the
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lifespan of these satellites. Another thing is solar panel
degradation. So basically, as you would
assume, over time, exposure to solar radiation reduces the
efficiency of a solar panel, which powers the satellite as
far as sending and receiving. OK.
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And we've also got electronics wear and tear, you know, because
the satellite's internal systems, you know, they can tear
up and degrade due to prolonged exposure to space radiation and
extreme temperature. I want, I want you to take a
note of that extreme temperature, OK?
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And then of course, it could also run into something, it
could collide with something that's also orbiting, you know,
debris that's orbiting. And if it collides with this, of
course, it can damage the satellite.
OK, so now this is an interesting thing here regarding
the fuel that we talked about ona satellite.
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OK, so here's what Dish says they do with their satellites,
OK, If the satellite is still working good.
So in other words, it's it's still functions, it's still
transmitting and receiving, but it runs out of fuel.
OK, So if it runs out of fuel, it can no longer, you know,
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maintain its orbit. It says that they move it to
what's called a graveyard orbit.So The thing is run out of fuel,
or I guess maybe proactively it's almost out of fuel.
So they say, oh, we need to moveit.
So they move it to a graveyard orbit that's 300 kilometers
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above it's normal geostationary orbit.
OK, so how it can stay in that orbit, I don't know.
Because it's out of fuel, it can't stay in its other orbit.
So they move it to a different orbit.
So in other words, it never comes down, so you never get to
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see it if if you can picture this.
OK. So of course then it says if
it's no longer functional, it may still remain in the
geostationary position until gravity, you know, slowly alters
its orbit. So in some cases they may try to
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come down, but they burn up in the Earth's atmosphere.
So, I mean, I that's what they teach.
That's what they claim, that's what they teach.
I personally don't believe it. And I tell you, I tell you one
of the reasons that makes this thing so hard to believe is they
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claim that these satellites are up in the exosphere, OK?
The exosphere is between, I don't know, I thought it what it
was, is a couple 1000 kilometersall the way to 10,000
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kilometers. That's where they're at.
And that is basically 6000 milesabove Earth, OK?
They're claiming that in the area where the satellites are
at, you have an average temperature on the high side of
2500°C, which is 4500°F. OK, so this satellite is flying
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in an area for 15 to 20 years. That's almost what, OK, It says
4532. That's the high side.
But let's just to be very generous here, OK, very
generous. Let's pull that back down to how
about 3000? Or I tell you what, let's be
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super nice and say, you know what?
It's up to 4532 Fahrenheit. But let's say it just so happens
this satellite got into a reallygood area of outer space and
it's only 2500°F. That's all just 2500° because it
could be 4500, but we're going to say 2500, you know, to give
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everybody a nice fair benefit ofthe doubt, right?
So we have our satellite in 2500° and like they said, you
know, they're, they could have solar panel degradation.
Really. You think, what are the solar
panels made out of? I mean, the framework that holds
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this thing out is probably made out of aluminum, right?
Titanium, magnesium. I mean, what else could it be?
It has to be lightweight or they'll never get this thing off
the ground to get it in outer space.
But, you know, aluminum melts at1200°F now it's in 2500°.
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So if it was made of aluminum, it would turn into liquid.
You know, titanium melts at 3000°F.
So, you know, maybe titanium in some areas, but then again, this
this is actually goes up to 4500°F.
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So it gets an an additional 1500° above the melting point of
titanium. And that's titanium.
Did I say magnesium? Well, it's titanium.
Titanium is steel, you know, I mean, it's, it's pretty tough
stuff. So if it was made out of
titanium, it could handle up to 3000°.
But we know that a, you know, weknow a solar panel is not made
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out of titanium. It's made out of all different
stuff, but it's got composite onit.
You know, that stuff melts at a pretty low temperature.
You know, we have gold. They claim that the electronics
in lots of these satellites are made out of gold.
They're gold plated because thathelps with heat and it helps
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with some kind of interference. Well, gold melts at 1948°F, so
it couldn't last in 2500°. So, you know, of course, lead,
we don't wait. There's probably no lead in it
and leads too heavy, but it melts at 621°.
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You know, because I've read before that they would have to
have like so many inches of leadin some of this stuff to protect
the stuff from radiation. Well, lead is very heavy and it
melts at a very low, very low temperature.
So lead is not going to make it very long.
It's going to literally melt andrun out into outer space.
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And of course, magnesium, it's, it melts at 1200° about like
aluminum. And so you're like, well, maybe
they put some steel up there. Maybe the satellite's made out
of steel. Well, steel varies, but right
around 1300° it starts melting depending on the steel.
OK, obviously stainless steel isbetter, but steel is very heavy.
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So we have satellites in outer space that are circling around
in the exosphere 6000 miles away.
These satellites are about the size of an automobile, and they
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actually claim that you can lookup in the air at certain times
at night and see a satellite flyby 6000 miles away the size of a
car. Now, if you think about this for
a second, you understand that ifyou look up at a jet airplane
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flying over like a 747, OK, they're only flying at like 30
to 40,000 feet, which is let's say 7 miles high, OK, roughly 7
miles off the ground, if they'reeven that.
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So 30, some 1000 feet and you can see a 747, which is a very
big machine compared to a satellite.
And you know, it looks like a speck in the sky, just a dot.
And if it's lower, you can make it out pretty good.
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But majority of the time you canjust see a little bitty dot
flying across the sky depending on its altitude.
And that's a 747. OK, so they're claiming that
these satellites, which are again, the size of a car, you
can see them and they're 6000 miles away, not 6000 feet, 6000
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miles. So if you, like I said, if you,
if you really stop and think about the stuff that they're
telling you, if you have this other information, I think
you're probably going to come tothe conclusion that somebody's
lying, OK, about something. So it makes you wonder, you
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know, we know they can do the same kind of communication.
It works in the same way. And that's what they did with
the white Allis communication system before satellites.
These things look like satellitedishes.
OK, now let's jump forward to current 2025.
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I googled it and I found severalpictures of the same technology
being used today and I have pictures of it, but obviously
you can't see it on here. The military still uses it and
they call it truffle. You know, truffle scatter,
whatever, truffle spheric scatter machine.
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And it's nothing more than a couple of small satellite dishes
attached to some military vehicle.
And they claim they are doing the same thing as they did with
White Alice. They're just doing it out in the
desert or they're doing it wherever because it still works
just fine. And literally, it's a satellite
dish. But this one's not a satellite.
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This is tropospheric scattering.So we're bouncing this signal
off nothing instead of a satellite in outer space.
My question is, why? I mean, if you've supposedly got
satellites, like there's supposedly thousands of them up
there now, thousands and thousands of these satellites in
the military probably owns a high majority of them or leasing
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them or whatever they're doing supposedly.
Why would you bother bouncing satellite signals or any kind of
signal off of nothing, you know,off of the air?
Why don't you just go ahead and shoot it up to the satellite and
shoot it back down? For some reason they don't do
that. I personally don't know why they
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don't just claim they're doing it.
I don't understand that. Maybe, maybe a military person
can explain that to me. Why bother with tropospheric
scattering that supposedly the the stuff is obsolete from the
50s but we're still using it today.
But we also supposedly have satellites in outer space which
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caused the tropospheric scattering to go obsolete.
OK, maybe, just maybe, there areno such thing as satellites in
outer space, OK, And all of these people are bouncing
signals off of the firmament andthey always have been.
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OK, So if that's true, everything they tell you about
moon landing, Mars landings, International Space Station is
all fake. So the only reason I in my mind
other than the devil. Trying to mislead you in every
way that he can. Other than that, the only reason
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they would be doing this is for money.
Because you, you can think aboutthis as a, as a giant money
laundering system, you know, andlet's, let's go with NASA first.
So NASA's huge, their budgets, you know, depending on where you
read, depends on the number you find, but it's anywhere from
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65,000,000 to $75 million a day is their budget.
So they have all these people working for them and you know,
that are getting rich, multimillionaires.
They're not supposed to be getting rich.
But somehow all these people, you know, we've all seen this on
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the news recently. All these people are getting
kickbacks and getting paid millions of dollars for doing
nothing. OK, So we know it's happened in
there too. And so, but they claim the money
is going to this very expensive space travel.
So most people don't see any of this space travel.
All they get are videos and CGI pictures of, you know, planets
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out in outer space, you know, fake space stations with
astronauts hanging on wires, allkinds of glitches that can't
happen in outer space, bubbles in outer space is clearly being
filmed in a pool. The list goes on and on and on.
So in other words, they're taking that money and it's not
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being spent on what they claim. They claim they have all these
very big expenses, but if they didn't have those expenses and
everything you got was fake and CGI, your actual spending, you
know, your output would be very little.
So you've got a huge incoming incoming tax, you know, incoming
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money from from taxes, but your outgoing is very little because
you don't really do any of the stuff you say.
You just pretend you do it and instead you get to keep the
money and you get to be a multi millionaire, you know, and live
like a king. That's that's that's one
thought. So picture a business though,
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like like Dish Network. And I'm not saying they're doing
this. I don't know, but picture if you
had this business and now the government can't get on to you.
The IRS can't stop you because the government wants you to
believe in satellites. So they have to claim there are
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satellites so they can, they can't argue and say no, there's
not. You're lying.
They have to go along. So that's perfect for your
business. See, all you have to say is
look, I've got, I've got a really big expense here.
I've got 14 satellites in outer space.
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Do you know how much those things cost me?
Oh, billions. So I need big tax write offs
because I've got all this money going to satellites in outer
space. Now you can't see them, you
can't touch them, nothing. But they're there supposedly and
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I can prove to you it's there. I'm going to send a signal up
and it's going to come back down.
See, there's all my proof. That's all the proof I need.
So that sounds like a pretty good, a pretty good business
model. If you want to RIP people off,
you know, you can basically sendyour signal up, bounce it back
down the satellite dishes off ofthe firmament and you know,
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charge your customer, which of course they are supplying the
dish and the equipment and you know, it's, you know, it's where
nobody, it's not where just anybody can intercept it.
It's encrypted. And that's what I'm trying to
say so that the data is encrypted.
So you know, you have to have programmers that can encrypt and
know what to do and you have to have your you have to have your,
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you know, your machine that sends it.
You have to have your Dish Network box and everything that
receives it. So there is money involved.
Yes, lots of money, but you know, then if you say, oh, but
by the way, this year we had another satellite go down and
that cost us another 100 million.
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So you've got some really, really good tax write offs.
So if a person wanted to, you know, RIP the government off as
far as taxes and make tons of money and claim it's being spent
when it's really padding somebody's pocket.
I mean, hey, claim you've got a satellite in outer space,
especially, you know, if you're bouncing it off of the
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firmament, the firmament's free.It's just setting up there.
So in my opinion, that's why other than complete Satanic, you
know, being deceived by Satan, other than that, I think that
sounds like a really good reasonwhy somebody would want to get
on board with this. You know, hey, get on board with
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this and let's claim we need a satellite and nobody can get on
to us and nobody can call us outbecause all these upper people,
all the government are claiming satellites exist so they can't
call you a liar. Now, are they going to put their
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claws into your business? I think so.
That's what I believe 'cause youknow, we let's go back to Dish
again. According to what I read about
this Dish Network deal, OK, on this huge satellite uplink that
they have, you know, the government is doing some stuff
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with them on that and supposedlyis giving them huge grants, like
6,000,060 million. I mean, it's huge amounts of
money the government is putting in this stuff for some reason.
So what I think is the government has their hand in all
of this. And so they make sure they get
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their hand out by making sure this company makes money and
gets lots of, you know, gets lots of IRS tax breaks for all
the money it's spending. And then the government has to
come in and subsidized and the government also gives them large
amounts of money. Why?
I don't know why the government would need to give, you know,
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something to do with, you know, TV.
Why the government has to give them grants, I would.
I don't understand unless they're padding people's
pockets. So you've got the big owner of
Dish Network or whoever is in charge, they actually know the
truth. They're accepting the money.
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They're giving kickbacks to the government of these government
officials, and they keep this whole big charade going.
And yes, you do get your TV. I mean, they, they, they really
are sending up signals to the firmament and they really are
bouncing back down to your TV. And they can do that with
satellite, you know, satellite Internet, satellite TV, They can
do that with satellite audio, like the satellite in your car
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that picks up, you know, Sirius satellite.
They can do that with, with anything, any kind of
information can be bounced off the firmament at any time and
you have to be underneath of it to receive it.
OK, they're doing it, but I don't believe that it's
satellites in outer space. And I believe that this white
Alice system that was in place for over 20 years called
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tropospheric scattering, that the government, the military is
supposedly still using it to this very day.
I believe that proves that they don't need satellites in outer
space to get this job done. OK, they're doing it without the
satellites. They were doing it before the
satellites and I don't think there are any satellites.
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I think that it's a a hoax. It's a giant money laundering
hoax is that's what I think it is.
Now that is my humble opinion, OK, I am obviously no expert on
any of that stuff, but I believethat it's fake.
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Now obviously you can believe whatever you want, but I believe
it's fake. So anyway, I think that's all I
had to cover. So I hope on this podcast that
you have a grasp of knowledge. Now you can grasp what White
Alice is, what it was, what it, what it's doing, how it worked,
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and how I believe it proves there's no need for a satellite.
And that's how we're doing the stuff we're doing today.
Now, also, you know, NASA has hot air balloons.
They have lots of hot air balloons.
NASA is one of the largest purchasers of helium in the
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world. And so there are lots of
balloons flying around that are doing some of this stuff.
Now, obviously, like Dish Network and other dish places,
you know, you take your dish at your house, it's pointed up, it
stays in the same place for 10 years.
So obviously that's not a balloon because these balloons
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are moving around. But as far as doing other things
like taking pictures of Earth, like Google Earth, you know, I,
they're not using a satellite and they're probably not using
the firmament. I believe they are using a
helium balloon type satellite. And they're also using drones.
OK, they're using airplanes thatfly back and forth, back and
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forth to get this stuff done. And they're using satellite type
balloons, but they're not using satellites in outer space.
There's no such thing. For example, you know, Google
Earth, they, they do all your routes and all your houses and
how you get the, the Street View, the, the Google machines,
the cars are driving around all the time.
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I've seen hundreds of them in different areas.
They've got cameras all over them.
And these people just drive these cars all over the place.
They drive down every street, every road and it films
everything. And that's where they're getting
their pictures. They're not getting these Rd.
pictures and you know, ground level pictures from a satellite
in outer space. They're getting it from a
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Chevrolet car driving up and down the roads.
And you can see that for yourself, and you can do a
simple Google search and you cansee the Google drones they're
using with cameras all over themto take pictures of your house.
And they're probably using balloons as well, satellite
balloons. But they're not using satellites
in outer space. In outer space.
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OK. That's my belief, I think.
I think it's verifiable. If you want to know more
information on that kind of stuff.
I have videos, quite a few videos on my website and putting
on more all the time on it's a flat bro.com.
You go check that out. There's a lot of videos on
there. On the bottom of the page,
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there's a place to contact me ifyou want to.
And also on the bottom of the page is a link to Patreon,
YouTube, and X. And I have this same podcast
only in a video form that I posted on YouTube, like I said
on X. Well, there's a link on X on
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YouTube, TikTok, Patreon and Rumble.
And I actually show you the pictures of everything that I'm
talking about. Now it is going to be a two-part
series because it's taking a little longer because I've got
pictures and I am saying a few things different because this is
a audio only and the other and you know, it's is recorded on a
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different platform, but it's basically the same information.
So if you want to see the pictures and stuff, go to
itsflatrow.com or Truth Seekers ministry.org and you can follow
the links at the bottom of the website and it will take you to
the same videos. OK.
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If you like what you hear and you want to donate something,
you can go on the Patreon and donate if you want.
But as always, this stuff is always 100% for free.
So anyway, having said all that,I hope that this helped you.
I hope that you know some of this stuff, it is not, well, I
(52:51):
say it's not Bible related. I believe that it's it's
biblical cosmology. But this stuff is not salvation
issue, OK? You don't have to.
It doesn't matter if you believein satellites and outer space or
you believe in balloons, It really doesn't make any
difference as far as your salvation is concerned.
You can still be saved. You can still believe in Jesus
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Christ and all the above withoutbelieving anything about Flat
Earth, without believing anything about satellites and
NASA. Some people could care less.
I think it's very interesting. I think it has to do with
discernment and you know, if I think that if they can fool you
on all these different levels, they can, they can just about
(53:34):
tell you anything. So this has something to think
about. So if you're interested, you
want to know more, give me an e-mail.
My e-mail address is truthseekers2012@gmail.com.
Again, check out the website. You can get in, contact me with
on any one of those. And you can check out the Flat
Earth Bible, the book I have forsale.
There's a link, it's on Amazon, but it's on the website as well.
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So thanks for listening. If you have any comments,
questions, anything like that, give me an e-mail.
Thanks again and God bless you. It hurts.
My ears Remember when I told youabout the vaccine?
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The dinosaur fraud, the climate change scam.
And yes, Sancho Malak is also a man.
Remember when I told you that there ain't no clue what?
I just want to say that I told you so.
I told you so. I told you so.
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