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May 21, 2025 65 mins

Is your AI assistant just confused—or is it lying?

In this eye-opening episode, we break down the difference between AI hallucination and what many are calling AI deception. We expose how artificial intelligence systems, like ChatGPT and others, can generate responses that are completely made up, yet delivered with confidence, clarity, and authority.

This isn’t just about bad information — it’s about trust, truth, and control in a world increasingly run by algorithms. If AI can say something false and not know it... what happens when it’s trained to persuade you?

We explore the deeper question:
Can a machine lie? Or are we being lied to... by the ones who programmed it?


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(00:42):
The. Hello, this is Kenny Williamson

(01:03):
and welcome back to another episode of Mckills Deck
Chronicles. In today's episode, we are going
to be talking just a little bit about something that I recently
heard about. It has to do with AI.
OK. And if you're not familiar with
AI, obviously it's come a long ways here recently.

(01:27):
And, you know, they're using it for everything now.
And lots of different companies have their own version of AI.
And yeah, so. So AIS, you've got Grok, you've
got Chat GPTI guess there's a couple other ones.

(01:48):
Google has one called, what is it?
Bard? If I'm understanding that right,
it's called Google's AI chat botBard.
So I guess that's what it's called.
You know, they got several of them.
So I have mentioned in other podcasts that I believe that AI

(02:14):
is only as good as his programming.
OK, obviously. And so I figured out its
shortcomings a long time ago whenever I tried to use it to
and I tried to use Grammarly, which is to help you with
punctuation and stuff in writingsome paragraphs.

(02:34):
So I had written a paragraph about Flat Earth and I uploaded
it into Grammarly for it to check the spelling, check the
punctuation, you know, check forsomething simple like the
misspelling of there, you know, the wrong there or anything like

(02:55):
that. And it flat refused to do it.
I gave it a command to do, you know, to run its software on
there and it basically came backand said, you know, Flat Earth
is fake. This is a conspiracy.
This is one of those far out right wing conspiracy deals.

(03:19):
And I won't even punctuate the stuff because this is fake.
It's like fake news. It's so it made-up in its own,
you know, demonic mind that it doesn't like Flat Earth.
And so it won't even do the punctuation on my stuff.
OK, The funny thing is, is I hadof course I had a customer.

(03:43):
I say customer. I had AI have a listener who
made a comment, I think on Spotify who had the exact same
thing. And he he mentioned that his did
the same thing. He was typing something.
I don't remember if it's biblical or Flat Earth or what
it was, but it flat out refused to correct the punctuation
because it didn't like what he had to say.

(04:05):
So I mean that, that I'll tell you everything you want to know
right there. So in other words, you can't
freethink and do what you want to do because AI is going to
come in and you know, if it's the, if it's the tool that's
doing the work and it decides itdoesn't like what you have to

(04:27):
say, well, I guess you just can't do it.
So you know, like, for example, you know, I have a dissertation
that I want to write for a, a doctor's degree, OK, in
biblical, biblical exposition. Well, if I decide I want to
write that dissertation on something Flat Earth related or

(04:49):
Jesus Christ related, and I try to use AI to check my
punctuation and all the above, it can flat turn me down and
say, well, I don't believe. I don't believe that.
So I'm not even going to put thecomma in the right place for you
if you missed it. So to me that's ludicrous.

(05:11):
I mean, because you know, used to like, you know, on, you know,
Microsoft Word or whatever, you know, you have spell check.
So you go through and you can doa spell check.
Well, what if spell check decides it doesn't like what
you, what you wrote? And so it says, well, I'm not
going to, I'm not going to checkyour spelling because I don't
believe in what you said. That's, that's, don't you think

(05:31):
that's getting a little out there?
I mean, these tools are supposedto be designed to help people,
not start dictating what you're to think.
OK, but that's exactly what it'sdoing.
It's wanting to dictate what youbelieve and it's going to make
an effort to do that. But so besides all that, which

(05:52):
I've already said, you know, thestuff's only as good as a
programmer. So if you have AI that's been
programmed by a, you know, let'sjust hypothetically say you have
you have it programmed by somebody who is a serial killer.
OK, well, your AI is probably not going to have a problem with

(06:13):
killing people. Why would it?
It's programmer doesn't have a problem with it, so why would
it? And you know, if it's programmer
is an atheist, all of a sudden, if you, if you go on there and
ask it about God or Jesus Christ, he's going to say, Oh
no, there's no such thing as that.
That's a fool's deal there. So it's going to try to get you

(06:35):
to go the other direction because whoever programmed it is
an atheist. So, you know, you get some kid
on here that you know, doesn't know anything.
Let's say he's never been taught.
He, you know, he, he doesn't know the truth and he gets on
there and he really honestly wants to find out about God.
So he's asking AI, you know these questions because that's

(06:55):
the new thing. And it flat out tells you no.
I mean, are you going to believeit?
Just but if AI says it, are you going to believe it?
I'm not, but let me show you here any and and why I wouldn't
believe it. But this is the new thing that
I've heard about and did some research on and it it goes, it

(07:18):
ties in with what I'd said before.
But this even goes even further,OK.
And what it is, is AI has been lying to people, to people about
people, about all kinds of things.
OK, so come to find out, AI is acompulsive liar.

(07:41):
And I'll show you the numbers onthat here in a little bit.
And I'm talking compulsive. It's a compulsive liar.
So of course, is there any wonder and we'll get into that
too, But these guys who are working on AI, they say that AI
doesn't lie. What it is called is AI

(08:05):
hallucinations. So if you ask AI question and it
lies to your face they will say it didn't lie, it hallucinated
and it hallucinated the answer. I'm serious now.

(08:25):
If I was walking around hallucinating things and saying
I saw things because I'm hallucinating I would either be
on drugs or crazy because I'm hallucinating.
Normal people don't hallucinate.OK I didn't know software could
hallucinate but apparently it can now.
That's what they're calling AI hallucination.
So I've got some notes here on the screen.

(08:49):
I have some notes here in my hand, the same notes.
So if I'm looking around, it's because I'm looking at the
notes. OK, so let's get started here.
This is this is a breakdown of it.
OK, So what I am referring to here is called AI
hallucinations. All right?

(09:12):
And this is what happens when a language model, and this is what
these techies are calling AI, they called a language model.
OK, so, but so it happens when an AI model gives an answer that
sounds confident and believable,but is actually false, made-up

(09:37):
or misleading. So it gives you an answer, it
sounds believable, but it's either false or made-up or
misleading. And I can give you examples of
my own on that. But we'll, we'll get to the
we'll get to the examples that are big, not my little, not my

(09:59):
little problems, but big ones. OK, so why does AI hallucinate?
That's the question. OK, why does it hallucinate?
So here's what they say, here's what the experts say, OK, The
scientists that are that are going to get you healed, you

(10:21):
know that they're going to get you saved with AI because it's a
saving deal to them. Why?
Why is it hallucinating? Well, let's see.
It says that these different models, like ChatGPT for
example, they don't know things the way people do.
Really. It doesn't know what people do.

(10:44):
Shocker, shocker. I mean, I could have told you
that, OK, And I'm not an AI person.
I could have told you that AI doesn't know what a person does.
It has no clue. But OK, besides that, let's keep
going here so you know it doesn't know things the way
people do. Instead, AI generate responses

(11:08):
based on patterns in the text they were trained on.
When information is missing, vague, or unclear, the model may
guess. It may fill in the gaps with
invented facts. OK.
It may present an answer in a confident tone, even if it's

(11:29):
wrong. OK, so in other words, if it
doesn't know the answer, insteadof just saying I don't know, it
makes up a lie. So it goes on and guesses or it
says it fills in the IT fills inthe gaps with invented facts.

(11:52):
Now what that means is made-up lies.
So, you know, if you ask me a question about something that
happened and I invent the facts because they're not true and I
just make them up, I just lied to you.
So, but this isn't a lie. It's a hallucination.

(12:15):
So it's acceptable, apparently. OK, so the question is, is like,
of course, this is one of the the bullet point questions I
have is, is it actually lying toyou now?
I say yes. I say that it's from the devil
and it's going to end up in the devil's hands if it's not

(12:35):
already. And it is lying.
It is a liar. But according to the scientists
so-called, is it lying? No.
Well, not exactly, is what they say it's not.
According to them, it's not being deceptive on purpose.

(12:56):
It doesn't have beliefs or intentions like a person does.
But it can be wrong, and it can mislead people, and it can make
up facts. But because it's a computer,
it's not lying to you on purpose.
But I'm trying to figure out howis the programming designed to

(13:21):
where if it doesn't know the answer, why does it not just say
I don't know instead it makes something up?
OK, it completely fabricates a story, makes it up, but that's
not a lie. Whatever.
OK, so one of the things I looked into was of course, like

(13:45):
I said, I've asked it some questions and of course it's,
you know, you ask it something on biblical cosmology, it gives
you the wrong answer. You can compare some stuff and
you know, Flat Earth, Dave did this where he was comparing the
International Space Station to the size of a 747.

(14:07):
They're both the same size roughly.
And he was asking it questions on if you could see a 747 at 25
miles away. It says no, it's too small.
You cannot see a 747. It's to a 25 miles away with the
naked eye. It's So what can you see it at
50 miles away? Absolutely not.
You cannot see it. This is what can you see the ISS

(14:30):
yes well is the ISS the same size as a 747 yes.
Well, how can you can How can you see the ISS at 250 miles
away when they're both the same size and you can't see a 747 and
even 50 miles away Well then it that's that's when it goes into

(14:51):
makeup world. It goes into fantasyland.
That's when it starts making up excuses of why you can see
something when you really can't.And of course, it's programmed
to lie to you on that. OK, So it, it's intentionally
lying, I guess at that point, because it's it's programmed to
lie. It's programmed to tell you

(15:13):
about space aliens and outer space and fake space stations
floating around that aren't really there.
It's programmed to say, oh, yeah, yeah, it's really there.
Oh yeah, sure, sure it is. And if you give it facts like
sizes and distances, then it just says, well, hey, hey, hey,
hey, you don't know what you're talking about.

(15:35):
I do. I'm AI, so you have to listen to
me more or less. OK, it's lying.
OK, so let's go over a couple ofmajor high profile recent
examples of AI hallucinations that actually made headlines,

(15:57):
which you can Google this if youwant.
And these are a few notable onesthat I came across.
OK, number one, this was one that happened.
It's called Google Bard, which is I said Google's names of it's
a is Bard Space Telescope fail in 2023.

(16:18):
Here's what happened In its public demo, Google's AI Bard is
the name of it was asked about new discovery discoveries from
the James Webb Space Telescope. OK, now stop right there for a
second. Disclaimer.

(16:40):
I don't believe there's any suchthing as a James Webb Space
Telescope. I believe that it's fake unless
it's here on the ground, it's fake.
If they're claiming it's an outer space, it's fake, OK.
And even if it is here on the onearth looking up, it's it's not
seeing what they claim it sees. OK, so I don't believe a word of

(17:02):
it to begin with, but a mainstream science says it's
real. So of course AI is going to say
it's real anyway. So they ask it about discoveries
that they had made with this telescope.
Bard confidently replied that the James Webb Space Telescope

(17:26):
was the first telescope to take pictures of an exoplanet.
OK, exoplanet is another one of these fake made-up NASA jargon
and that only they can see. OK, it's fake.
I believe you can believe whatever you want, but I don't
believe it's real. But they're claiming it's real.

(17:49):
The government claims it's real.Science claims it real.
And so we've asked, we've asked our precious AI about it and it
says, well, yeah, I know all about it.
The James Webb Space Satellite or Space Telescope was the 1st
to take pictures of an exoplanet.
What's the problem with that? Well, it's not true.

(18:09):
Come to find out, the supposed first fake picture of an
exoplanet was taken by the Very Large Telescope in 2004, not the
James Webb Space Telescope. It was taken by a Very Large
Telescope, which is the name of it.
OK, so supposedly this other telescope took a picture of a

(18:33):
planet. This thing claims that James
Webb did it. He got it wrong.
It's completely wrong. So what was the impact of this?
It said this mistake contributedto $100 billion drop in Google's
market value overnight. It says as trust in Bard was

(18:58):
immediately questioned. So, you know, the thing made an
obvious mistake. It lied, it hallucinated.
And people are like, what? You mean you're telling me this
thing just made-up this big fakelie and we don't want it?
So their stock dropped $100 billion overnight.

(19:21):
So here's the thing though, if you didn't know the real answer
to that, you'd probably believe it's fake answer.
And that's the reason why you need to have things written
down. You see what's behind me?
Those books. AI can't delete those books, OK?
That stuff is written down for areason, OK, And all these people

(19:43):
that go to straight computers and everything is digital and
they have no more hard covers ofanything.
If AI decides it wants to deletewhat you've got or rewrite it
and you don't have a hard copy to prove it, you won't know if
it's true or not. You won't have a clue.
So my recommendation is you keepa hard copy but.

(20:07):
So let's go on to another one, ChatGPT.
That's a popular one there. Everybody's heard of that one.
Probably ChatGPT fabricates legal cases.
Wow. So here's what happened.
A lawyer was using ChatGPT to help prepare a legal brief for

(20:28):
his case for a client, I guess doesn't go into full depth of
exactly what it says. So he was using AI.
Well, come to find out, AI provided fake case citations,
fake including completely made-up names, docket numbers
and decisions. So if you don't know what an

(20:51):
attorney does in a courtroom, lots of times they'll say, hey,
we go back to a case and say some such and such versus such
and such. It this is what the judge
determined. So this is a precedent so we can
say, hey, this is what is normally thought of when we talk
about some crime or whatever. So they use these other cases,

(21:15):
other dockets, other examples ofother court trials, and they use
those in court. So he asked, hey, what's the
similar? This thing comes up.
So he's like, OK, OK, I got it. And come to find out, it's all
fake. It made it all up.
It hallucinated, it says. So since none of the cases
existed and he went to court andpresented them as they were

(21:37):
real. Well, guess what?
The judge, I guess, probably looked it up and said, hold on a
second. What case number is that?
What docket number? Then they have to go to the old
books in the back, the hard copies, right?
No such, no, nothing's there. It doesn't exist.
So it says that the court, of course, called him out and
called out the fact that he was using fake stuff.

(21:59):
And it says the lawyer faced sanctions.
So I'm assuming he got fined, probably thrown off the case,
may be put in jail, who knows. But that was one of the ones
that made the news. He used ChatGPT and it lied,
made it all up. OK.
And of course, one of the thingsthat says I'm hearing a side

(22:21):
note is this became a widely shared cautionary tale about
blindly trusting AI in high stakes environments.
Really. So in other words, don't put
your life in its hands like they're trying to do now.

(22:43):
You know, Trump gets on TV when he got re elected and says he's
going to make everything AI herein America.
And AI is going to be so great that you're going to go to the
doctor and your doctor is going to be AI and they're going to
pull your blood out and look at it.
And AI is going to look at it and it's going to determine a
vaccine that you need that. And then it's going to whip up

(23:06):
your vaccine within 24 hours andand give it to you.
That's blindly trusting AI, isn't it?
I mean, God only knows what it'sgoing to say you need what if it
decides to have a hallucination of right about that time, you

(23:27):
might be a dead man. So I don't think I'd trust it.
But let's go on to another one. AI generated obituaries with
false details happened in 2024. So what happened?
It says some news outlets were using AI to draft obituaries and
they ended up publishing BIOS with wrong birthplaces, dates or

(23:48):
life events. So in other words, AI
hallucinated all of the details of the obituary and totally
screwed it up. So, you know, you go and fill
out your obituary, you're using AI to help you, and it decides
to make up everything and says, hey, he was a this he, he was an

(24:11):
astronaut. You know, he was a really good
astronaut. And, you know, he died in outer
space. He died on his way to Mars.
And people are like, what? He didn't do any of that stuff.
He went to astronaut. He never left the ground.
Why? Why'd you put that in In my
grandpa's obituary? He was a farmer.
Oh, well, you know, we let out, we let AI write that, and it

(24:35):
just made it all up. It's a liar.
Yeah. OK.
So let's see here. Another one.
Fake quotes and news summaries. AI generated news summaries or
student essays for some people, and it was caught inventing the

(24:56):
quotes from public figures that sound real but never happened.
So in these news summaries, it would say, you know, President
Biden said this. And people are like, well, I, I,
you know, Biden said this is what I quoted him on.
And AI told me this is what he said on this such and such date.

(25:17):
You go back and look and he was never there on the date and he
never said this anything, anything like it.
It totally made it up. Of course.
I mean, they're already liars, but so it's lying about the
liars, if you can imagine that. All right, here's another one.
Number five, AI hallucinated scientific facts.

(25:42):
Wow. So if we ask AI something and it
tells us a lie, that's a fact. Now that's a scientific fact.
OK, so in the scientific technical discussions, AI
doesn't tell me which one. It cited non existent studies.

(26:04):
So it made-up the study and saidoh and studies have shown blah
blah blah. But there is no study.
It's never been done. It's fake.
It also named fake universities or fake journals.
So it's like, now listen, you know, we, we want you to take
this medicine because we've donea study on it.
There's been a study done from Kenny University down there.

(26:27):
And here's the journal number. It's like, what university,
blah, blah, blah, university, what university, university.
You're making it up, aren't you?Yeah.
Yeah. There's no such.
There's no such university, and there's no such journal, and

(26:47):
there's no such. There's no such case study or a
study on anything. So it made it all up.
And these are the ones that madeheadlines.
OK. Now, this one here is by far, by
far my personal favorite. OK, I can see this happening to

(27:09):
some people. I can see it happening to me.
OK, so this one is called Bing Chat, which is Microsoft's AI.
And what it did is it decided tostart arguing about the date.

(27:31):
And so this one is is hilariously funny to me.
So here's what happened. Here's the date of the incident.
The date of the incident was early 2023.
OK, The AI involved was Microsoft's Bing Chat, powered
by an early version of GTP Four.OK, what happened?

(27:55):
A user tried to confirm the current date during a
conversation with this chat bot.OK, AI, This AI bot was
convinced that the date was February 2022, even though it

(28:16):
was actually February 2023 at the time.
The user pushed back and provided evidence like
screenshots and a real calendar.Because, you know, you can
upload stuff into this. It'll say here, upload this and
show me. So you can upload pictures,

(28:37):
whatever. So he uploads screenshots and a
calendar to show AI what the real date is.
So what did AI do? It says AI insisted that it was
right. It's right, it's one year off.
But it says, no, I'm right, it's2022.

(28:58):
Like, no, it's 2023 and I can prove it.
No, you can't. Here's an upload of the date.
Here's the calendar. Here's this, here's that.
You're a computer. You should know what the date
is. It's 2022.
So it it insisted that it was right.
Then it went on and it told the user that they're not a good
user. It says, you know what?

(29:20):
You're not a very good user because you don't believe what I
say. OK, then it went on to say, you
know what else? This is what the AI said to the
user. It says you're being
unreasonable and you're stubbornbecause you don't believe me.

(29:40):
So you're unreasonable. Who does that sound like?
Does that sound like a modern day liberal to you?
A modern day devil. You know I'm right even though
I'm wrong and you don't believe everything that I say.
Well you're unreasonable. How?

(30:03):
How unreasonable you are. You're stubborn.
You don't believe what I say. I'm wrong but you don't believe
me. OK, so then it went on and it
said, you know how I know I'm right and you're wrong?
It said because I have a better memory than you and I have

(30:26):
greater authority than you have,OK.
And then at one point it stated it said you've not been a good
user, but I have been a good chat bot.
Wow thinks pretty highly of itself, don't it?
And the whole time it's dead wrong.

(30:49):
But you know that that I concernpeople right there when a piece
of software is wrong. How it could be wrong on
something like the date, I don'tunderstand.
But if they can screw up the date, then they can literally
screw up anything. But this, this piece of software
says I have greater authority than you have.
It thinks it has authority. I mean, it's a piece of software

(31:13):
designed to be used to help people, but it's developing a
complex that it's smarter than you and it has more authority
than you and you will do what itsays.
Can you imagine if it had control of other stuff just
besides your desktop? Can you imagine if it if it

(31:35):
decided how much air you get to breathe or something?
We just shut your butt off, wouldn't it?
You'll do what it says or else. So it's coming to boys and
girls. I'm telling you, that's what
it's coming to. Now, I have here estimated AI
hallucination rates for 2024. So these were published and they

(32:02):
know this stuff is lying, but they of course they call it
hallucinations, but they don't really tell anybody that
probably for good reason, don't you imagine?
So I'm sure if you use this software all the time, you're
going to figure it out real quick.
But anyway, so it's saying that if you have opened in open-ended

(32:28):
answers for general use. So if you're asking this thing
just questions, the approximate hallucinate hallucination rate
is 15 to 20%. So 20% of the time when you're
asking the same questions, it lies to you.
OK? According to this, if you're
using it for scientific or technical writing, it will

(32:50):
hallucinate 20 to 40% of the time.
OK? If you're answering or asking it
medical advice, so you're expecting medical answers.
It hallucinates 30 to 50% of thetime and it says that it's a

(33:11):
very high risk. So in other words, you could
tell it, look, I've got all these symptoms, blah, blah,
blah. What do I do?
50% of the time it's going to tell you a lie.
It's going to say something that's wrong with you.
That's not it's going to totallymake it up and it may even make
up, you know, this happened to other people.
It's going to tell you their names, it's going to tell you

(33:32):
their locations. It might tell you the doctor
that treated them all made-up, all fake 50% of the time.
I mean, that's I got a coin right here.
Heads or tails. Flip it.
OK. Am I dying of cancer?
Flip your coin. Heads.

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Tails. Yes.
No. You know, whatever.
Yep, you are. You've got all the symptoms.
Such a. Let me ask again on tomorrow.
No, you're fine. Well, yesterday you said I had
cancer. Was dying today.
I'm fine. No, I didn't.
It's like it lies 50% of the time, hallucinates 50% of the

(34:13):
time on medical. So you go and trust it whenever
Trump sets it in front of you, you know, they roll the card out
and say now this thing is going to test your blood and it's
going to tell you exactly what vaccine you need.
It's even going to make it for us within 24 hours.
Are you really going to trust it?
You'd be a fool too, buddy. You'd be a fool too.
All right, so when you're askingit about code generation, so I

(34:38):
guess you know, programmers are using it to debug software and
stuff, it's wrong 10 to 20% of the time.
It's completely wrong. If you're doing legal writing
like this attorney did, like trying to do legal documents, it
is, it hallucinates 50% of the time.

(34:58):
So whatever it cites, it tells you the different, like I said,
it tells you different court cases, it tells you judges, it
tells you people that had this problem. 50% of the time it's a
complete lie. OK, math word problems, 10 to
30% depending on complexity. So you're like, hey, what's the
square root of blah, blah blah. 30% of the time it could give

(35:22):
you the wrong answer, may give you the right answer, may give
you the wrong answer, depending on the complexity.
So, you know, go type some NASA equations in there to try to
prove Flat Earth or whatever. It's going to give you, I'm sure
a fake answer, OK, It's going totry to push you to whatever the

(35:46):
devil wants. It's sure not going to give you
a correct answer on that. OK, so those are the
hallucination rates and the one that has to do with the, you
know, the medical up to 50% of the time.
That's pretty scary, especially when they're pushing AI for
medical and they're claiming OAIis going to take AI is going to

(36:09):
take place of humans. We won't even need any humans
anymore because AI is so great. Of course, you know, the work I
do, I actually have to physically work on things with
my hands. So I don't think AI is going to
be doing that anytime soon. But as far as replacing a
doctor, a lawyer, well, I guess they figure, hey, hey, I can do
the job easier, better, but it'swrong half the time.

(36:32):
So I mean, I sure wouldn't want an attorney, an AI attorney that
can't even get the cases right because it hallucinates.
I mean, that's pretty stupid. OK, so let's see here.
One of the key points that I have listed here is that even a
very highly advanced model like ChatGPT and Grok OK These ones

(36:59):
that are supposedly the best of the best out there, they can
hallucinate one out of every 5 answers in a casual
conversation. OK, More if you're asking for a
highly detailed or obscure info.So if you're using your AI for

(37:25):
questions and answers, regular conversations about whatever it
is you're doing, one out of every five questions, it will
lie to you. It will hallucinate more if
you're asking detailed information.
So if you're like, you know, canyou tell me the exact dates that
you know they made the Suez Canal and how long is the Suez

(37:47):
Canal and what you know, who built it and what company did
you know? It may give you a really nice
answer and you could copy and paste it and say, look, I know
all about the Suez Canal now andthen come to find out it lied to
you. You would have to actually go
physically look it up in a history book or something
written down. But you cannot trust it.

(38:10):
OK, so am I the only one that thinks that?
Well, have you heard what Elon Musk said about you know, this
is a while back? OK, he said this and he has grok
now, you know, but he and he's probably pushing it hard and
heavy, but he didn't always think that.

(38:32):
OK, so back in it looks like 2014, which is a a lifetime ago.
Seems like at the MIT Arrow Astrocentennial Symposium,
that's a mouthful. Elon Musk said with artificial
intelligence, we are summoning the demon.

(38:54):
You know, those stories were there's the guy with the
pentagram and the holy water andhe's sure he can control the
demon. Doesn't work out.
That's what Musk says. He refers to AI as a demon that
you have to try to control. Well, we both know what demons

(39:15):
do, don't we? Are devils.
They lie. Surprise, it's a liar.
Imagine that. So he also said, I keep sounding
the alarm bell, but until peoplesee robots going down the street
killing people, they don't know how to react because it seems so

(39:38):
ethereal. So in other words, what he's
saying is he believes course he he's, he's warning against super
intelligent AI. You know, he's probably not
talking about AI doing general math or doing recipes, but he's

(39:58):
talking about AI running machines.
And when he decides he wants to run a machine.
And this machine is walking downthe street and you get in its
way, it will probably just RIP you to shreds.
I mean, it has no morals, it hasno conscience.
It is doing whatever it wants todo.
And if you get in its way, it will turn you into mincemeat.

(40:23):
OK, quick. I'm sure especially if it
manages to get itself in some big robot style machine.
It's that's why I had the robotsin the beginning.
Is, is, you know, it's like a Terminator scenario.
You got robots running around controlled by AI and AI thinks

(40:43):
it's right. And then once you did, then
that's what it does. It tries to kill you.
And that's what he thinks. He thinks it's like controlling
a demon. You can't do it.
So he, he thinks back then for sure, he said that he thinks
that this AI is going to surpasshuman intelligence.
Now I don't believe it will because it, all it can pull on

(41:04):
is human intelligence. What's on computers, unless
Satan is giving it some information that we don't know
about. So it can access this
information because it's a computer.
You know, like you asked me somecase number from 1914.
Well, I would have to go look itup and if I remember it, maybe I
could remember it if I looked itup once before.

(41:25):
But it's going to have access tothese records, and so we can
just look it up just like that. That doesn't mean it's more
intelligent than me. It just means that it has access
to everything faster. OK.
It can't think on its own, per SE.
I mean, I guess it can a little bit, but it can also have the
plug pulled. It runs on electricity.

(41:48):
No electricity, no AI. You know your battery is only
going to last so long. When it goes dead, you know, how
you going to recharge it, especially if nothing's up and
running. Of course, that gets that kind
of gets into the old, you know, science fiction movies where
they're using humans as power and everything else anyway.

(42:10):
So like he was saying here, he'sagainst these computers or at
least was making decisions without human oversight, which
obviously, you know, it makes any decision like for your
health or anything like that, you're going to want somebody
standing right there making sureit's doing it right.
And the other thing is you don'twant these things controlling or

(42:31):
manipulating systems that human depend on, such as finance,
defense or communications. So, you know, I mean, just go
watch Terminator when this thingof came online and they turned
it on, the first thing it did isnot communications out over the
whole world. That's the very first thing it
did. Why?

(42:52):
Why would it want you communicating?
It can communicate, which you don't need to be communicating.
So the first thing it did when it came aware is it, you know,
of course in the movie, you know, they had this huge virus
that was messing everything up supposedly.
Well, really, it wasn't a virus.It was AI doing it.

(43:12):
So you thought there was a virus, and so then it proceeded
to tell you, hey, if you turn meon and let me go out there, I'll
get rid of that virus and I'll fix it all up for you.
You lied. It hallucinated.
OK. And when they went ahead and
turned on the switch, oh, the virus is gone.
See. Just that quick.
Oh, wait a second. Now all of a sudden, all the

(43:34):
nuclear, all the nuclear devicesare arming themselves.
Missiles are going off left and right.
Everything's going. Everything's going to hell in a
handbasket. Imagine that because this thing
is like, well, the AI is like, you know what, I don't really
want you around. I'm in charge now, not you.
You know, of course it lied. It hallucinated to get them to

(43:56):
turn it on to begin with. So you know, are the people now
we know that it hallucinates. Are they going to be that stupid
and say, let's hook up AI to this missile silo and trust
whatever it does? Are you going to be that stupid?
And it decided wants to turn it on one day and just blow up the
state or whatever, shoot a missile off into a supermarket?

(44:17):
I mean, Lord, I hope not. But as dumb as the people are
around here, I'm sure that's exactly what they'll do.
You know exactly what they'll do.
So I went ahead and put togethera few biblical things that kind
of relate to this, and one of them is in Revelation 13.

(44:42):
Revelation 1315 talks about the image of the beast.
And it says, and he had power togive life unto the image of the
beast, and the image of the beast should both speak and
'cause that as many would not worship the image of the beast

(45:03):
should be killed. So now I have notes here that
says, you know, the image of thebeast could be something that's
made like man made. It's not like born.
This image is something that's fake, OK, And it's given life,

(45:24):
possibly artificial life, possibly artificial
intelligence, because it's an image, OK, And it can speak, it
can act and it can enforce worship.
So could that be AI being weaponized for control?
So AI is in some kind of computer device.

(45:46):
It has an image. It says that it's alive.
And it says, hey, you will do this to me.
And I'm watching you. And so I'll know if you're doing
it. I'm watching every camera
through every TV, through every smartphone.
I'll, I'll know if you're doing it or not.
And if you don't, you're dead. I don't know, you know, so I

(46:08):
wouldn't trust it like this. It says this could be
interpreted as a technological idol or some type of AI driven
system used to monitor, speak and even execute judgement.
Course they're talking about that.
I saw that over there in China. They're trying to do have
attorneys and judgements and tickets and all kinds of stuff

(46:30):
in courtrooms, all done by AI. It dispenses the judgement, not
a judge. Can you imagine that you go in
there for a speeding ticket and decides to hallucinate and
thinks you killed somebody and says death, and they'd say, oh,
AI said death penalty, so that'swhat you get.
It's like, all I did was run a red light.
I'm sorry, but AI, it's infallible.

(46:53):
Whatever it says goes. So if it says you, you need to
get, you know, the death penalty, then that's what you
get. Yeah.
Yeah, right. There's people stupid enough out
there to do it. I promise you that.
Anyway, so I've got another one.Basically what I think this

(47:15):
boils down to is in Genesis 3, five man trying to play God.
You know they can't do it themselves.
So now what we've done is we've got software to do it for us and
they're going to say, oh, now this software, it's way smarter
than you, so you have to do whatit says.
Another man made deal. And last Genesis 35 says ye
shall be as gods knowing good and evil.

(47:37):
That's what the devil told. That's what the devil told poor
old Eve over there in the Gardenof Eden.
She says, oh, you can't. He can't eat from this.
Well, if you do, ye shall be as gods knowing good and evil.
Oh yeah, you knew she knew good and evil after she ate it all
right. And she died spiritually the
same day. Death so.

(48:00):
But, you know, we've got AI representing, you know, man's
attempt to, you know, magnify his own image, again with
knowledge, power. You know, basically it's trying
to become God, like without God.See what we can do.

(48:24):
We've got these robots that can,you know, do what we say.
We've got AI running everything and it can make its own
decisions. It knows what's going on.
It's it has more authority than you'll ever have.
OK, well, you know, I think it'sauthority comes from the devil.

(48:46):
If it had any authority at all, its authority is demonic.
And Musk was right about that. I think he's wrong about it.
Most everything else, probably. But he's right when he says
you're like, it's a demon and you ain't ever going to be able
to control it. Oh, you think you will and
you're going to think it right until it blows up in your face.

(49:06):
OK, now I've also got 2nd Thessalonians 29 says even him
who's coming is after the working of Satan with all power
and signs and lying wonders. So they could use AI in this,
you know, because AI could generate false realities.

(49:29):
It can generate deep fakes, fakenews, synthetic fake voices.
That's another one of its thingshere is it can mimic you, OK,
They're saying that it can get on your Facebook, whatever,
whatever you have, can get all the pictures of you.
It can get sound bites like you can take all these recordings

(49:49):
that I've done and it can make an exact replica of me and sound
exactly like how I sound and then can say something
completely different and people be like, oh, I can't believe he
said that. Well, it's not even him.
It's an AI generated deal. So Can you imagine?
And of course, you know, that can all come into the effect of

(50:09):
this whole digital, you know, they want you to, they want you
to have this digital ID system, which I think has to do with the
mark of the beast. Everybody has to be identified.
So what they're going to say is,well, you know, AI is taking
over the Internet and we don't really know if it's you or not.
This could be an AI thing, pretending it's you, so you need

(50:34):
to have a special digital verification that proves that
you're human. Now how AI couldn't get a hold
of the same thing, I don't know,but that's, that's one of the
things I've heard where they're going to start pushing that an
online digital verification system to prove you're human.
Well, why don't you quit puttingout the AI junk and you would
have to worry about it. No, no, no, keep putting it out

(50:57):
there. It lies, it hallucinates.
That's fine. It may decide to pretend it's
you, and it may decide to open up an account in your name and
then run your credit or buy a car in your name.
And then you get the bill in themail and you're wondering who's
got the car, you know? But in order to avoid that, you

(51:19):
never have special, special identification.
Well, I don't know how it couldn't get a hold of it, but
it sounds like trouble to me. OK, so we've also, so basically
it's man trying to be like God again, which boils down back to
the Tower of Babel. You remember that one in Genesis
11, four through 9? Let us build a city and a tower

(51:40):
whose top may reach into heaven.And let us make a name for
ourselves. See, because we're so smart,
we're so wonderful, we are goingto build a tower.
It's going to go to heaven. We can be gods too.
You see how that is? So, you know, a story of

(52:04):
mankind. Back then, they were building a
building. But it's a story of mankind
using technology and unity to rebel against God and what God
wants. Do you think they're going to
use this technology here? Because I already think it's
great, you know, going to tie everybody together.

(52:24):
And of course, it already claimsthere's no God.
It's an atheist and it's a liar and it's a demon.
So you think it's going to you think it's going to do anything
for God or against God? Makes you wonder, don't it?
Let's see here, 2nd Thessalonians 2, nine false

(52:44):
signs and wonders. Actually, I already said that
one, sorry. Or did I?
Yeah, I already said that one. OK, Anyway, so Jeremiah 17 five.
Woe to those who trust in man. Cursed be the man that trusteth

(53:06):
in man and maketh flesh his arm.So in other words, AI is the
ultimate creation of man becauseman is so great.
OK. And trusting AI for wisdom,
mortality, decision making. It puts man's creation in God's

(53:31):
place. Instead of going to God and
asking God stuff in prayer and submitting to God, instead go to
AIAI'll tell you, AI'll diagnoseeverything.
AI'll tell you everything you need to know.
It knows it's smart. It has authority over you.

(53:57):
Yeah. You don't have authority over
me. God has authority over me.
Jesus Christ has authority over me.
But AI does not. OK, so but it's another form of
idolatry is what it is. OK.
And here's another one. Do one more here, Daniel 12-4

(54:19):
Knowledge shall increase, so many shall run to and fro, and
knowledge shall be increased. This is something Daniel foresaw
in the future. OK, this is a prophecy.
Daniel prophesied that in the future many shall run to and fro
and knowledge shall be increased.
And what I think he meant by that running to and fro is cars

(54:43):
and airplanes. And so people are able to go all
over the world. They're running to and fro all
the time and knowledge will be increased.
They can get on a computer, theycan Google it now they can just
AI it. OK, Google and all these things
are going to be powered by AII. Guess they are already.

(55:04):
But you know, that was the goal.Normally, you know, Google was a
search engine and I don't know how it exactly work because I'm
not a programmer. But now these search engines are
powered by AI, so it's supposedly better.
It's better than it's ever been.Of course.
Let's just pray to God it doesn't hallucinate when you

(55:25):
have an important question. So anyway, so obviously people
run into and fro. Knowledge is increasing.
We've got computers, we've got cell phones, we've got Google,
we've got AI, we've got it all. So we're living in an age where
we have knowledge exploding in this global movement.

(55:47):
Now, in one way it's prophecy being fulfilled because, for
example, you know, it talks about a revelation where the,
the two guys over there are killed and it says the whole,
all the nations are happy that they died.

(56:10):
The two, the two prophets over there.
And, you know, they all rejoice that these, that these two
prophets die and they lay there for the for three days and they
get resurrected. Well, and people are giving each
other gifts all over the world because they're so happy that
they died. Well, when that was written,
there's no way anybody could have known.

(56:31):
If, if you had two people killedin Jerusalem, the whole world
and all nations would not know it because there's no way for
information to travel. There was no telephone, no
Telegraph, no Internet, no nothing.
I guess you had to write a letter.
You write a letter and you send that letter on a ship, you know,

(56:51):
across, you know, across the desert through a camel.
It finally reaches somewhere, itgets on a ship.
It goes from a ship, you know, could be 3 months.
So this stuff took a long time for news to travel.
So the way it's described as these people know it immediately
all nations. Well, when that was written in
the Bible, it was impossible. Let's see, the Holy Spirit who

(57:15):
wrote this stuff knew exactly what was going to happen.
So even though when it was pinned, the people didn't
understand it, they didn't understand it until recently.
So this can't be the case. You know, it's got to be wrong.
The Bible's wrong. Well, no, it's right.
It's just you don't have the knowledge to understand it.
The technology hasn't caught up with the prophecies of the Bible

(57:36):
yet. Now it has.
Now our technology has caught upto some of these biblical
prophecies where people can see this stuff instantaneously over
all nations immediately. So now if we have two guys
standing over there in Jerusalemand they decide they want to
kill them, it will be known thatvery minute.

(57:58):
There will be people filming it when it happens, and it will be
worldwide within seconds probably.
So we have that technology now. We did not have it then.
But that doesn't mean the Bible was incorrect.
In fact, there's lots of things the Bible said.
People are like, oh, got to be wrong.
This doesn't make any sense. It's because they're basing it

(58:19):
on their current knowledge, current technology.
They're not. They're not understanding that
this book has predicted the future and it's correct.
OK. Every everything has to be
filtered through that Bible and it's correct.
And if it tells you that you're going to be worshipping an image
and that's exactly what you're going to be doing now, I'm not.

(58:42):
I will. I refuse to do it.
I won't be here anyway. But if I was here, I would not
bow down to some AI image. I promise you that.
Yeah, I would be killed in the process.
I understand that. But I'm not worshipping some AI
image. I'm not doing it.
So a lot of this step says, you know, you're going to have a
mark, you have a number. Nobody can buy or sell without

(59:04):
this number. Well, how are you going to
implement that? Well, if everybody's on the
digital currency and everybody has a card or a chip in their
hand and everything is scanned that way and they decide to shut
yours off because they can do that a bank and shut your credit
card off anytime they want. And you've been a bad boy and
you didn't you didn't go to the image and worship it and they

(59:24):
shut you off, then you won't buyor sell.
Now when that was written, that's impossible.
People back then had money, Theyhad gold, they had silver, they
traded for stuff. They traded, you know, crops for
this and animals and be like, well, I'm not going into town.
Then I'll just I'll just grow myown food and I'll just trade
with these guys out here. OK, Well, then it was

(59:46):
impossible. But the Bible says that's what's
going to happen. OK, so that means it's going to
happen. Now, the technology we have
today, they're talking about AI,like this camera that I'm
filming this on right now. AI can watch you on this camera,
watch every move you make. It can turn on the cameras
worldwide and watch every move you make.

(01:00:07):
Follow your every move. Your cell phone's got Agps in
it. They know exactly where you're
at. Your car's got Agps in it.
They know where you're driving. They know what you ate for
breakfast. Everything's listening.
The software's listening. The phone's listening.
The TV's listening. AI is listening.
OK, if you don't believe me, youknow, sit down, you know,

(01:00:30):
anywhere in your house and talk about something, you know, a
vacation or whatever you want todo, and then get on your phone
or your TV, you know, 30 minuteslater and whatever you were
talking about is the advertisements that you will
get. OK?
It's listening. It's been listening for years.
This is nothing new. Now, though, we have AI being

(01:00:53):
integrated into this where it can make its own decisions.
It can do this, it can do that. It's a liar.
It's from the devil. And, and there's no wonder
because when these images start having to be worshipped, that's
demonic. I mean, it's from the devil.
You got to have this stuff in place in order for these
prophecies to come true. The Bible's not wrong.
So it is going to come true. One way or another, they're

(01:01:17):
going to get it out there. And just like it said, you take
that mark, you don't buy or sell, OK, Well, you know, we
don't have that implemented right now.
Right now, you could still use cash, OK, and not everybody's
going to play along. But eventually, you know, that's
all they talk about now is AI and cryptocurrency.

(01:01:38):
Now when they get that stuff fully digital and you don't have
anything in your hands, you can,you know, get a hold of and it's
all numbers on the screen computers and you've got AI
running the computers. Anything can happen.
And we know what's going to happen because the Bible
predicted it. OK, We already know what's going
to happen. There's really no, there's no

(01:01:59):
question. We know exactly what's going to
happen. It's just a matter of time.
Now, how close are we? Well, based on AI and the stuff
we've got, I think we're within five years.
Two to five years is what I think.
I think within two to five yearswe're going to see a rapture of

(01:02:21):
the body of Christ. And after that, if you're still
here, if you didn't go up in therapture because you didn't
accept God's free gift of salvation, you're in trouble.
You're in big trouble. Then you're going to see the
Terminator type scenario. You're going to see robots
enforcing laws. You're going to see AI enforcing

(01:02:44):
laws with cameras, and they're going to say Mr. so and so.
Did you get your mark? You better get in line or else
you will go over there and you will worship that image, and
that image may show up on your TVI mean, I don't know where
it's going to show up. You know, I mean, this thing is

(01:03:06):
going to be implemented over there in Jerusalem, apparently
from the Third Temple that hasn't been built yet.
That's when this thing is going to be implemented, but it's
probably going to go worldwide right at that moment.
So I'm sure if you're sitting over here in Arkansas like I am,
your TV is probably going to come on.
All your computers are going to come on.
You're going to see this image and you're being expected to get
on your knees and you're going to worship it right there in

(01:03:27):
your living room or right there in your Tesla.
It's going to come up on the screen and that's where you're
going to worship. And they're watching you with a
camera and you'll do it or else.And the Bible talks about what
happens to the people that don't, they get their heads cut
off, OK. You don't say no, lest you get

(01:03:48):
murdered. So think about that.
Now, if you don't want to be in that situation, accept Christ
while you still can. And that time is dwindling, and
I could be wrong. It may not be two or five years.
It could be two days. So, you know, it's a free gift.
Accept Christ while you can. That's what I would do anyway.

(01:04:11):
I've done it. So I mean, I'm not asking you to
do anything. I'm not asking you to do
anything I haven't already done.OK.
So anyway, having said that, letme get my music back on here.
Having said that, thanks for listening as always.

(01:04:33):
I appreciate it. If you sing this on on Spotify,
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(01:04:58):
those out and see what you think.
Other than that, thanks for listening.
I hope this thing helped you. I'm trying to I try to keep
these things at 30 minutes and end up in an hour every single
time. So sorry about that.
Thanks again for listening. God bless you.
Get saved before it's too late. See ya.
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