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May 22, 2025 78 mins

In this eye-opening conversation, I sit down with Dr. Mark Farris 

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for a wide-ranging discussion that dives headfirst into some of today’s most controversial and thought-provoking topics.

We explore the growing interest in Flat Earth theory, examine Elon Musk’s role in shaping public perception of space and technology, and unpack the rapid rise of Artificial Intelligence — what it means, where it’s headed, and what it might be hiding.

This episode pulls no punches. Whether you’re skeptical, curious, or a full-on truth-seeker, you won’t want to miss what Dr. Farris has to say.


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(00:06):
Hello, and welcome back to another episode of Mckill's
Death Chronicles. My name is Kenny Williamson, and
today we are going to talk againto Doctor Mark Farris.
We're just going to have a nice little conversation about all
just all kinds of things. So if you're interested in Flat
Earth and whatever, we're going to be right here.

(00:28):
So I guess let's go ahead and get started.
How are you doing today, Mark? Hey, excellent, Kenny.
Thanks for having me on the showbuddy.
No problem, no problem. Well, before we got this thing
recorded here, of course, we were trying to work out some
bugs here. You know, there's always bugs in

(00:48):
this software, and so I'm tryingto figure out how to operate it
on my limited capabilities that I have.
But right before we were talkingabout Stephen Hawking, and, you
know, I just did a podcast the other day where I had talked
about Biden possibly being a fake Biden, you know, because

(01:12):
you compare him to the pictures of a few years ago, is clearly a
different person. Well, I have the same kind of
pictures with Stephen Hawking, you know, where he looked a
certain way. And you know, we had ALS and
ALS, once they're diagnosed withthat, they last about 7 years
maximum. And he managed to last like 70

(01:36):
years. And of course his looks changed.
And so they've got, what they'vegot is they've got another
person in his place. And it's like we were talking
about they, they take somebody like that.
It's, it's basically a puppet, Ashelled out puppet.
And they just stick him on a pedestal and they give him a
title. They say they're the smartest

(01:57):
person in the world and then somebody else does the talking
for them because they can't talkand you don't even know what
they're thinking and that what you said.
I I agree. Yeah.
And, you know, it's, it's interesting.
And they do it with multiple people.
I mean, you know, you mentioned Biden.
You know, I didn't see it with Elon Musk.

(02:19):
I mean, they try to make him outas some kind of Einstein.
And by the way, I didn't think Einstein was all that bright
anyway. I think he, he talked a lot of
nonsense as well, the spirit of relativity and unification
theories. And yeah, just so anyway, they,
they, they put these people up on a pedestal and, and try to,
you know, it's like a psyop, youknow, and they, they run psyops

(02:40):
within psyops and they try to convince everybody that these
are the brightest people on the,the planet.
And, and I, I, I just don't buy it.
I'm sorry. But if you, if you look at what
a lot of them actually say and and what what they say they
believe now, I think, you know, I don't know if they really
believe it. I think maybe they just get paid
enough or, you know, they like that the position and the

(03:03):
prestige enough with the, with the support to, you know,
they're they're going to puppet whatever they're told to say.
But yeah, I mean, when you look at when you look at their
message and it, it just really is a bunch of nonsense.
And so, yeah, I, I'm, I'm not real impressed with, with man.

(03:24):
And, you know, and you can go, you can go throughout history.
I mean, Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, you can go, I mean,
there's a lot of these guys. I mean, if you look what, what
they taught, it was a bunch of nonsense, but you know, the, the
powers that be decided, you know, that's the message they
won't put out and that's what they're going to promote.

(03:46):
And then these people get put upon a pedestal.
And you know, when you, you know, I mean, Elon's a good
example. I mean, you know, nothing
personal against Elon. I mean, you know, thank God we
got X. There's, we can actually, you
know, there's some, there's somefree speech on that platform.
And, you know, I I appreciate that and I appreciate what
Elon's done there. But but you know, when it, when

(04:06):
I listen to him, you know, I'm like, I'm sorry, but you know,
no, it's I don't, I don't see it.
He's you know, he's, he's, you know, he seems like a nice
enough guy, you know, all that. But no, I mean, you know, it's,
you know, I think he's been put in a position.
He pushes, you know, push this thing with the space and, you

(04:30):
know, push the push the battery thing with this electric cars.
And you know, I think the, I think the electric vehicles are
a big scam on people. You know, I'm sorry, but you
know, it's I just, I think it's a con and a scam.
There's nothing green about them.
They're probably less green thana combustion engine if you
really ran all the numbers on it.

(04:51):
But you know, I just, I'm not not real impressed with and
then, you know, and of course weknow he's faking the space thing
and going to Mars and all that. You know, we, we know all that's
fake and anybody that spends, you know, it's spends a few
hours and, you know, few days, you know, it's not, it's not

(05:13):
hard to start seeing through these just shams that they put
up and and they act like these people are just, you know, the
brightest people that ever been and they're not.
I mean, they're, they're, they're basically it's, it's a
constructed, constructed message, a constructed reality.
It's a constructed platform. And, and they push it.

(05:39):
And, and so, so when you, when you look behind the scenes, you
know, you pull the curtain back,you know, yet you see that, you
know, basically they have puppetmasters.
Right. I think it's I think it's real
similar to comic book heroes. OK, so you've got a fake comic
book hero. Let's just say Superman, for
example, you know, he has all these credentials that make him

(06:01):
great, right? Of course they're all fake
because it's made-up. But he's got all these
credentials that make him reallyfake.
So they're like, you know what? People really look up to these
guys. So that's what we need to have.
We need to have a superhero that, you know, is the smart.
He has to be really smart. He's got to be a genius, you

(06:22):
know, and we're gonna promote how smart they are.
And they're a genius. So anything they say is true
because they're so smart, See. And so what's the first thing
they say? Oh, there's no God, you know,
that's ridiculous. And we're going to outer space.
And, you know, we're trailing around Mars right now.
You know, we've got helicopters on Mars, you know, a little

(06:44):
helicopter on Mars flying around.
There's no air. There's no atmosphere and of
course, I don't know how it's flying, but you know, they can't
fly down here with no atmosphere, but they can sure
fly in Mars with no atmosphere, you know, and the smartest
people. And So what they do is they pick
a person and I think they pick aperson that's about 50% brain
dead is what I think they pick aperson that they can fully

(07:08):
control. And then they're like, now, now
listen here, we're going to stick you up on a pedestal.
We're going to put your name on the newspaper.
We're going to put you on TV. We're going to we're going to
talk about you every chance we get.
In fact, we're going to put you the head over these huge
companies and we're going to claim you started them even.
And all you are is a puppet. And all you have to do is just
sit there and not say anything unless asked.

(07:31):
And we'll tell you what to say. And you know, hey, people will
believe it, just like what you're saying, like Musk.
You know, I don't have anything against the man either, but I've
watched a couple of videos where, you know, he didn't start
Tesla. People like, oh, he started
Tesla's Tesla. No, it was founded by two guys.
It shows their names. They built the first car, the

(07:51):
Roadster, and he came in as a partner.
And, you know, one of the deals was that, you know, he was going
to buy them out or something. And he, he, he became a partner.
And it says, you know, basicallythey couldn't stand him as a
partner and he went on a vacation and they tried to fire
him and get rid of him when he was on vacation.
That's how bad they hated him. And then he finally comes back

(08:13):
and buys them out. And one of the deals was, you
know, that they get the first roadster ever produced, which he
supposedly took the first roadster and shipped it to outer
space. But and then he had court
documents filed to put his name on the paper as the original
founder. So within it was logged.

(08:33):
So when you go look it up, it shows that he invented the thing
when actually he doesn't know anything about it.
I mean, it's just he's just a buy in and don't know whose
money he used. But then, you know, supposedly
some of the money came from the sale of PayPal or something.
And then it's another one of those deals.
He had it, you know, supposedly got in on it, didn't invent

(08:55):
anything, used his dad's money. And they're like, oh, he was
poor. Well, then come to find out his,
you know, dad had a, some kind of a mine over there in South
Africa. And, you know, whenever he came
to America and went to college, his dad bought him the whole
building. So like the whatever dorm he was
in, he owned it. Musk owned it.

(09:16):
So his dad bought it. So I mean, we're talking started
off rich, you know, or somebody else buying the stuff.
And and then when you look at his pictures, you know, he
course he's bald and you know, now he's got a full head of
hair. So, you know, is it a fake hair?
Is it implants? Is it the same guy?
It's it's kind of one of those deals.

(09:37):
You know, you look at the pictures and you can see where
this is going. And now everything's changed.
And now we're a genius. We're the smartest man on earth.
But when you look at the stuff he posts, he can't hardly, he
can't hardly complete a sentencewithout stuttering.
It's just like when, and you know, I mean, that's his whole
sentence. And everything that he posts on

(09:59):
the X is about him playing videogames.
So apparently he plays a lot of video games, stutters a lot and
has like what, 10 kids now? Something he has like a bunch of
kids with a bunch of random women.
I, I, I don't see the genius in that.
I just don't see it. I, I concur.

(10:21):
And I remember Speaking of that roadster you were mentioning and
I, I remember seeing just a little short clip where he said,
you know, it's got to be real because it looks so fake.
Yeah. Because they really did just
like just GI and even bad CGI, right?
I mean really fake CGI. And you know, I've seen more

(10:42):
realistic CGI on, you know, lotsof movies, a lot of sci-fi
movies. You know, I'm a big fan of
sci-fi, even though, you know, I, I know that space is fake and
all that. I I still like the genre and you
know, and there's some good movies, but I've, I've seen a
lot better CGI on some movies that I have in, in this stuff.

(11:02):
They fake with their spaceships.And, you know, Speaking of their
spaceships, you're, you were mentioning that too.
And with their helicopters and no atmosphere on Mars, but yet
somehow they fly with, there's nothing to push against because
that's how a helicopter flies. It pushes against the
atmosphere, right. And so the same thing with, you
know, propulsion with a rocket going through space.

(11:23):
It's supposed to be a vacuum. So if it's a vacuum, what, what,
what's it pushing against there?There's no molecules there.
It's a vacuum. There's nothing for it to push
against in space. And so, so, you know, these,
these little disconnects like that, they, they, you know, they
really never address. And I, I don't think a lot of
people really have, you know, stop to critically think about

(11:44):
what what they're being told is happening.
They just go, oh, wow, that looks so neat.
But you know, when you start thinking about it from a
critical standpoint, you're like, oh, that doesn't make any
sense. And especially with, especially
with, I mean, we, we know and, and I know, and it's clearly in

(12:05):
our scripture. It's, it's in a scripture in
multiple places. God said he put a firmament over
this earth to separate the waters above from the waters
below. And that firmament is, is
essentially a Dome over this, this stationary level plane
realm. And, and nobody's ever got
through it. I mean, you know, they, they've

(12:26):
sent nuclear bombs against it. You know, when they used to do
high atmosphere nuclear testing,that's what they were doing.
They were sending up rockets andhitting the firmament and trying
to blow, see if they could crackit or get through it.
And of course you can't when, when God builds A barrier,
nobody's getting through it. And in fact, I saw, I saw an

(12:47):
interesting clip of some guy that was in Antarctica and he
was talking about having actually seen parts of the Dome
and he said self repairs. He said, you know, they, they,
they tried to drill through it, you know, because it comes all
the way down to the Earth, right?
I mean, it's, we're, we're an enclosed system.

(13:09):
That's how our atmosphere is, iscontained.
It's enclosed. And he said, he said when they
drill through it, he said eventually they lose their
drilling machine because the Dome seals it in and they can't
get it back out because the drug, the, the Dome self
repairs. And that kind of sounds like
something that God would do, right?

(13:30):
Oh, you're going to try to get through this or break it?
Well, I'm just going to have it repair, and it's going to repair
faster than you can destroy it. Yeah, it's going to slam down
shut right behind you. It's like there it went,
completely gone well. You know, even if it's not
instantaneous, you know, I mean,because they can like drill into
it and get get a little ways in.But then eventually, you know,
after, you know, and he didn't really get the exact time

(13:53):
period. It may have been days, weeks,
months, I don't know. But but eventually he said the,
the drilling machine was sealed in.
We, you know, we couldn't get itback out because the, the Dome
is actually self preparing. And, and he actually showed some
pictures of, and he said he saysa lot of this ice that they're
studying. He said they're not really
studying ice down in Antarctica.He said they're studying the

(14:15):
Dome, which kind of looks like blue ice.
And he said, the only time I sawhim actually studying ice is
when something like National Geographic came down for one of
their little, you know, one of their little, you know,
propaganda psyops. And he said then they bought the
ice out and said, yeah, we're studying this ice.

(14:35):
And yeah, we're doing all the experiments on the ice.
He said, that's the only time I saw him bring the ice out.
He said every other time because, you know, he, you know,
they live, they live in this small community and they live.
And he said, I make friends withsome of these scientists and
they would talk to me. He said all the other times they
were studying the the Dome material, which looks like blue
ice. And I and think about it, what's

(14:56):
what's the color of our sky? Normally blue.
Blue, blue. Yeah, it's, it's it's blue most
of the time. Yeah.
I mean, you know, blue, blue and, you know, and so, and I'm
like, I'm like, boy, that that'sa great explanation for why the
sky is blue, because the Dome isblue.
The Dome looks like blue ice. And he, he actually showed some

(15:18):
pictures and I'm like, yeah, that that makes a lot of sense.
While the sky is blue. Yeah, I've, I follow a guy.
He does a lot of stuff experiments on that, and he
talks about the noble gases thatare trapped up high and it's got
argon, xenon, that kind of stuff.
And when they get electrified, you know, they have their own

(15:39):
colors. So you have neon and let's say
it turns blue, you have argon, it's red, and you have this
other one and it's orange. And he has these different noble
gases in containers and he, you know, holds them next to a Tesla
coil and they light up in there whatever color.
And he's like, that's why when you see certain time, you'll see

(16:00):
the red sky or orange and red and all this mixed together.
He said it's those different gases up there that are
electrified and they begin to glow.
And the gases are kept there because they can't escape
because they're in an enclosed Dome.
They're just up there floating around and they may float over
here and you just see the blue, you know.

(16:21):
But if it they've come back overthis area and the sun, the
electric current from the sun energizes them, then they light
up and you can see bright orangeright above you because you've
got a bunch of that gas right above you up way above the Dome,
you know, or in the Dome. So there's lots of theories on
that. It's pretty good.
He's got a. Yeah, I the other morning this,

(16:46):
I don't know, maybe about a weekago, I think I actually posted
these pictures up on X because they were so beautiful.
But anyway, it was a it was a, it was sunrise and the sun was
still down behind the tree line in in my neighborhood, but the
sky was a bright orange. And I mean, I just just, I mean,

(17:07):
a good part of it was bright orange, like a streak of wide
bright orange. This guy.
And I was thinking what you werejust saying that it was those
gases that that are being, that are being electrified,
illuminated, energized, you know, however we want to put
that. But anyway that that's what's
given the color. And that's why you see like the,

(17:27):
the, the Reds and the oranges and the purples.
And, and then, you know, normally like, you know, like
right now, I'm looking out my window, I'm at my desk and, you
know, I look up and I just see, I just see it's, there's,
there's no clouds in the sky. It's just blue sky.
And, and I, and I think about that, that blue Dome material

(17:49):
that, that I saw on that, on that video, and I'm like, and it
looks like blue ice and, and, and they, and they actually have
to keep it really cold or just, it just vaporizes.
It's got to be kept really supercold.
And he said that's that's one reason why they study it in

(18:11):
Antarctica is because it's, you know, they can keep it cold
there and actually study it. But when, yeah, I said when they
try to transport it, it's, it's be they said it gets technical
and it gets difficult to transport this stuff and, and
try to to try to get it, you know, to study it.
And he said it's just easier to study it in Antarctica.

(18:32):
Right, that makes. Sense made a lot made a lot of
sense to me. Yeah.
It's like, yeah, OK, so they're they're trying to figure out
what this is. But you know, of course it's God
made. And as you know, all we got to
do is look around his creation and not, you know, I mean he, he
is the creator. And so when when he creates
something, it, it is beautiful and it is it is durable.

(18:56):
And if he. Don't want you.
Nobody's going no rockets going through it.
Nobody's going through that. That's you know, now, now
they're saying that, you know, they can't get back to the moon.
They're like, Oh yeah, you know,we, we lost all that tech, we
had it all. But you know, we, you know, this
was supposedly one of man's greatest achievements in the
history of the world. You know, 6000 years we've been
around, but this is one of our greatest achievements.

(19:17):
We went to the moon supposedly, right?
But, but, but we lost all that tech.
We can't get back now. Yeah, You can't get back now
because, you know, you can't fake it like you did and
convince people like you did back in the 60s and 70s where
people are so gullible when they're looking at all this
just, you know, a movie set and believe in it.

(19:38):
Now, if you try to do that, people are just going to bust
your chops left and right fifty ways this Sunday because people
are a little more sophisticated too.
And they can. They can spot the fakery.
Yeah, slightly. And that's that's why, you know,
everything they do is CGI. I mean, even like pictures of

(19:58):
the globe, you know, they, you know, they, they, they, they
push their globe a lot and and they reinforce that constantly.
But, but they even admit they'relike, yeah, we don't, we don't
have any actual pictures of the globe.
It's, it's all CGI. And one of the guys that did it,
I mean, he just flatted. I mean, he's on video saying.
It has to be because it has to be.

(20:22):
That's because that's that's allwe got, guys.
We don't have any pictures of it.
Yeah, yeah, I've, I've watched the video of the NASA guys.
They've got two of them in a room.
They're on these big computers and they're interviewing them.
And of course now these people are all bought into this.
They believe it's true. And they're like, what are you

(20:42):
guys doing in here? And they're like, oh, we're
creating CGI images of the spacestuff and like, OK, well, what's
happening here? Well, we've got a satellite, you
know, and it took pictures of this Galaxy.
OK, so now what we're doing is we're putting it all together.
So to show you the Galaxy, right?
That's what we're doing. And so they show literally, it's

(21:06):
like, well, what's the original picture look like?
And this is no joke. They pull up a screen, a
picture, and it's literally likethe size of this sheet of paper,
let's say, and it has a black square, a slightly Gray square.
It has like 6 squares. 1 is black, one is Gray, one is

(21:29):
whitish Gray. It's just like a big BLOB.
I mean, it's, it's like something seriously.
It's like 4 individual big squares, a different shade of
Gray. And that's their picture.
They're like, you see this and then they show you what they
created and it's planets and stars and waterfalls coming down

(21:52):
on distant planets that are purple that are bubbling up.
And it's like you got all that from those 4 Gray squares
because you made it up. They're like, well, you know,
we, we, that we're, you know, we're scientists and we, we work
really closely with NASA on this.
And it's like, I see the pictureyou're working from.

(22:14):
The picture you're working from wouldn't even be considered.
I mean, a 2 year old wouldn't even be consider that art.
You have four or five different shades of Gray squares and
you're turning that into purple planets with waterfalls in
distant galaxies far, far away. Everything they do is fake and

(22:36):
they're getting paid to do that.That's all they do.
That it's had all this, you know, big CGI.
That's all they're doing is creating giant fake scenes to
promote NASA. So so brain dead people can look
at it and be like, oh, look at those planets in outer space.
Wow. It's like that's all computer

(22:58):
generated. That's not the picture they
took. OK.
I glanced at 1:00 today. I, I, I didn't spend much time,
you know, 5 seconds looking at it.
But but it was this, this picture that they've taken.
OK, a picture of 2 black holes merging and out, out in some far
distance Galaxy. And I'm like, yeah, right, OK,

(23:23):
sure. I can only imagine.
Well, yeah, when you start, whenyou start looking, looking at
their when, when, when you look at what they're promoting and,
and the way, the way they do it,it, it starts falling apart
really fast. And I, I wish more people would

(23:45):
just take some time to question,you know, just just start asking
some questions and start doing, start doing a little bit of
research. You know, I mean, I know
everybody's busy, you know, everybody's got, you know,
you're working, you're trying topay your bills, which is getting
harder and harder and you're busy.
But, you know, just take a, takea little bit of time and start,

(24:06):
start doing some research because there's, there's a lot
of good information out there. If people would would actually
sit down and just, you know, start searching it out for
themselves and looking at it, I think more and more people would
come to the conclusion that we do indeed live on a stationary
flat plain realm. And in fact, I saw a number the
other day, I don't know how accurate it is because you know,

(24:28):
poles, I think a lot of poles oryou know, whatever.
But, but this one said that, youknow, there are 35,000,000
Americans that believe that the earth is indeed a stationary
flat, plain realm. And you know, and I hope so, you
know, I hope people are coming around because that's what the
Bible says. I mean, let's believe the Bible.
I mean, you know, I mean, there's, there's lots of science

(24:51):
to pursue if you want to pursue it from a science point of view.
I mean, you can, you can use geometry and distance and, you
know, see that the curve's not there because you're seeing,
you're seeing mountains that should be way below the curve or
you're seeing islands that should be way below the curve.
And, and so, I mean, you can do it from the science, but you can
also, you can also reinforce that or just do it straight from

(25:12):
the Bible and just believe what God tells you.
Now, you know, I'm, I'm kind of,I'm, I'm of that mindset.
I mean, I'm, I, I like looking at the science and enjoy seeing,
you know, that part of it. But I, you know, I, or so I'm
interested in what God says about it.
And if you look at what God saysand he read his scripture, it's

(25:35):
really clear that it is indeed alevel plane.
Right, I agree. You know, I had some literature
here sent to me by a listener from California.
He sent me a whole bunch of thisdifferent literature on court
case that had to do with Flat Earth that the flat Earther one.

(25:58):
But you know, as as you and I both know the globe, this globe
model is satanic. OK, if you're listening to this
and you don't understand why they push the globe, it's
because it's a Satan. It's a satanic agenda.
OK, now, and this is just some stuff I like to point out.

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If you know anything about the Bible, which obviously you do,
you know what Satan's number is,right?
We know what? We know what the number is,
right? What is it?
6/6. 6666, I mean, yeah. Number of the beasts 6 is the
number of man as well. 6 is the number of man.
So in this literature here, and this is in the court case that

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this guy won, it has a table that shows, talks about your,
your curvature, your measurable curvature, OK.
And this is curvature that's supposed to exist on the Earth,
you know, the globe, OK. And so they've got these all
these different measurements. And for example, when you take

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'cause you know it's 8 inches per mile squared, you know, so,
so you do this for 12 miles and it's got, you know you've got
point 666 feet of curvature. When you do it for the next, the
next set is 2.666 feet. You know, you get to the next

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110 point 66616.66632.66642.666 every Finally you get down here
to the bottom 66.666 every number in their formula has 666

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in it every time. I mean, they, they've got the
tilt of the Earth, you know, on a 90° angle is, you know, 23.4,
whatever it is, the remainder 66.6.
And you know, they're, they're claiming that the Earth is
spinning around the sun. And most of the numbers then now

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they'll change them on you to try to throw you.
But the original number 66.6000 miles an hour, 66.6 thousand
666. Everything they do is 6/6 6:00.
And it's like, and then they name their program NASA, which

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means to deceive. And they, they go ahead and put
the serpent's tongue as their logo.
And everybody on the NASA founding team is either an
atheist, I mean, like one of them is a Satanist.
They're the Satanist, a Nazi, a this, a that every one of them

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hates God, hates the Bible. And every one of them that you
can trace back, you know, some of them are Satanists.
They literally worship the devil.
So is there any wonder that every number that they come up
with is 666 in it? I mean, what, what's the
coincidence on that? But hey, I, I don't know what
I'm talking about. They're telling the truth.

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They like their they like their symbolism and they like their
numbers and they. Like to put it right in front of
you. They do they, they, they, they
put it, they really do just theykind of mock you with it.
If you once you kind of start init, you realize they're mocking
you and that there are there arenumbers that you see that you

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were talking about 666. Another number you see a lot is
the 33 and you know that kind ofto the Freemasons with their 33°
and I think it was Jack Parsons.He was the Satanist that we did
a lot of the the original research on the rocket
propulsion systems. You know, Jack, Jack, I mean
they they were into some wild stuff.

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I mean him the guy that I found at Scientology and and Jack
Parsons and then that I think itwas Crowley.
Was he the Satanist? And, you know, the And so
anyway, they were like, you know, they, they were like, you
know, a Trinity there. Yeah.
Satanic. Trinity.
So, but yeah, so, OK, so yeah, I, you know, if you, you think

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about it, a lot of stuff that what Lucifer does, Satan,
Lucifer, the devil, whatever, you know what, you know various
names for him, a lot of what he does, you know, he, he, he
doesn't create himself. He he copies, copies and box and
and it's just like if you look at you read the Book of

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Revelation in times, then, you know, you look at his, his
unholy Trinity that you know, it's where he's going to bring
in. You know, you got him, OK, which
is, you know, like the top of the, the Trinity.
And then you got, and then you got his, the Antichrist, you
know, which is man. And, and then you've got their,
you know, you got their prophet,which is, you know, they're,

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they're like their holy, you know, their Holy Spirit.
So you got like Satan, you know,Lucifer, you got the Antichrist
and then you got the prophet. And so, you know, and that's
kind of like trying to mock the Trinity of, you know, God the
Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, You know, you got
Lucifer, Antichrist, and the unholy prophet.

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Right. And so, you know, a lot of what
he does is, is a mockery of, of,of what what God has created.
And so, so getting back to your original point, I think that's,
that's why we have, you know, all this space and globe and all
this. It's to get people to doubt the

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word. It's to get people to believe
they're, you know, they're, they're long Earth, they're
long, you know, they're, they'reancient universe, they're
ancient Earth, they're Big Bang,they're evolution.
It's, it's to get people to doubt what God has said in, in a
scripture. And so it's really all it's,

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it's truly a, it's truly a deception and it, and it goes
back, you know, when they play the long game.
I mean, you can go all the way back to Copernicus in like 1545.
I mean, it, it was the, you know, it, it the Catholic Church
basically said, yeah, that we, we like what you're saying.
So we're not going to really actlike we like what you're saying.

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But yeah, we're going to make sure your word, your message
gets out. Yeah, that goes back.
We're talking, you know, I mean,hundreds of years ago they've
been playing this long game of starting, you know, the
heliocentric model and all back back 1545 they started it.
And then today, of course, you know, with all it's just
accelerated in our lifetime with, you know, with TV and

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movies and you know, video series and all.
They've just, they've taken it to a whole new level to where
people up, they basically think,you know, if you believe in a
stationary level plane that has a Dome over it, they think they
think we're crazy. Right, It's he's definitely
playing. He's definitely playing a long

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game, you know, and he started and like a lot like to say, you
know, he started clear back in the Garden of Eden.
And what he's done is one of thethings I've noticed in which it
seems to be a pretty good pattern, is everything is done
in opposites. So, you know, if it's dark, I'm
going to tell you it's light. If it's light, I'm going to tell

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you it's dark. So God says, you know, don't do
this, you'll die. He says, go ahead and do it, you
won't die. So everything is opposite.
So God says there's a firmament.There's not a firmament.
It's outer space. God says it's, it's stationary.
It's not stationary, it's spinning.
God says the moon and the sun move around.

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Now the earth moves around the sun.
I mean, everything is opposite. And so then he, he just says it
as a fact. And then like you're saying,
like what I was saying, he has these stooges that are propped
up as scientific minds of, of whatever.
And so these people come out andmake a statement.

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And then you have all the supporting people saying that
guy's a genius. He knows it all.
He knows it. He's the smartest man alive.
So you have to listen to what hesays.
And and then if you doubt it, and if you start looking at the
guy and you're like, you know, that guy don't look that smart
to me. And he sure don't sound very
smart. So then you've got to have
somebody come out like Musk thatsays, you know, the faker it

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looks, that means it's real. So if it looks fake, that means
it's real. So you have to kind of get that
way of thinking saying, oh, I know that looks like Looney
Tunes cartoon there, but it's real because it looks so fake
that that's what I heard, you know, and so people start
believing just it's just like the Einstein deal.

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I read an article on him that said he was not even able to tie
his shoes. It said that he was like some
type of a savant type. I'm trying to think of the word
he's not all there. The dude could not even tie his
shoes. He had to have his shoes tied

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and then the pictures of him arehim sitting around with his
tongue out, you know, has pointed he's got his tongue out
in some of those pictures. Well, that's it.
That's a devil deal to begin with.
So he takes a picture, he's got his tongue out real long and
they come to find out he marrieshis cousin and they're going to
tell you he's the smartest man around.
And he came up with the theory of relativity.

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He can prove, you know, blah, blah, blah.
In fact, I have AI have a quote from him here where they like to
say, let me pull this up where Ican see it.
You can't see that, can you? No, I can see it.
But this is a quote from Albert,Albert Einstein in 1922 when he

(36:05):
gave the speech on how he created the theory of
relativity. And they claim that flat
earthers steal this, but they don't tell the truth.
So what he says is he says he's talking about this experiment.
He says, since then, I have cometo believe that the motion of
the Earth cannot be detected by any optical experiment.

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OK, That's what Einstein said, supposedly.
And then he goes on to say, though the Earth is revolving
around the sun. And So what they say is they say
we'll see. Flat earthers quote this part.
Since then, I've come to believethat the motion of the Earth
cannot be detected by any optical experiment.
But they ignore this part. But just because he makes a

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statement a false statement after a true statement doesn't
mean that the false statement istrue.
You see what I'm saying? Yeah.
Yeah, He says a statement that there is no optical experiment
at that time that could prove the Earth is moving.
But I believe it anyway. In other words, is what he's
saying, but it's true, but I can't prove it.

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Well, that's not science. You're making a statement and
then you can't prove it. That's not science.
The first thing that's. True, you can't prove it.
So if you can't prove it, maybe it's not real.
But he, you know, he's supposedly the smartest man at
the time and you know, you look back and read about him and he
can't even tie his shoes. Well, how does a person not have

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the ability to tie their own shoes but can supposedly come up
with mathematical theories on outer space?
And see, that's perfect. The guy's not all there.
He could be controlled with a little bit of this right here.
And he's really so dumb. He, you know, he marries his own
cousin. He can't tie his own shoes.
They've got pictures of him withhis tongue hanging out.

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His hair's all messed up. He looks like a blooming idiot.
But they claim he's a genius. And everybody believes this is,
oh, Einstein. Einstein.
Einstein. Einstein.
Yeah, right. Just like.
Stephen Hawking, Stephen Hawking, Stephen Hawking.
And now it's Elon Musk. Elon Musk.
It's always somebody up on thesegeniuses that are on a pedestal

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and they all have the same agenda.
Yes, they all do. They all, they all parrot the
same thing. There is no God.
There's outer space. Hey, look at me.
I'm wearing a shirt like him. You know, Musk here while back,
you know, has has an upside downcross on the back, has a
Baphomet on the front. You know he's wearing that as a
costume, running around with an upside down cross and a picture

(38:46):
of Satan on his on his deal and laughing about it.
And that's your genius. Right.
I don't think so. It's multiple psyops and and
it's been going on for a long time and and that's that's
exactly what they do. They just they run the psyops on
the public and you know, like like Einstein you were

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mentioning, OK, so they they usea bunch of mumbo jumbo
mathematics that of course. You can never prove.
That no one can understand, you know, and, and the ones that
probably claim to understand it realize, oh, this is a bunch of
nonsense, but I want to claim tounderstand it because don't give
me lots of money if I do. And it's just like Elon, I mean,
think about it. I mean, who's the richest person

(39:27):
on the planet? I mean, or one of the richest
people on the planet is Elon Musk.
So they, they've thrown a lot ofmoney at the guy to play his
role. And so I mean, he's one play.
Oh, and like you said, I mean, when when you, when you start
looking, looking at the guy, I mean, I mean nice guy.
I mean nothing. I'm not nothing personal against

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Elon, but but when you start looking at I'm like, you know,
they, I remember it probably wasa month or two ago.
They were trying to run the narrative.
Elon Musk is our new Einstein oftoday.
I like I. You know, our, our, our
so-called journalist, you know, I just call them liars, right?
I mean, that's truly, you know, if they're, if their lips are

(40:10):
moving, most of our journal, notall of them.
Now I'm, you know, I'm just saying many, not all, but many,
if their lips are moving, they're just lying.
They're they're just giving, they're just running a SIOP on
the public and and the public, the people who watch mainstream
media and, and, and give any credence to to to what these

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people are saying. These I mean, they're, they're
just, they're, they're paid puppets.
They're liars. They, I mean, they always, I
always say, you know, they, theywould sell their mother for a
dollar. You know, I mean, they, they,
it's just, it's, they, they havea price.
And, and there's a whole bunch of them that, you know, they've

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decided that, you know, as long as I get the money, you know,
I'll, I'll say or do whatever you tell me to do.
And, and of course a lot of themend up, you know, basically
selling their soul. I mean, they, they are, you
know, they are to the point to where they, they've hardened
their heart to the point to where I I doubt they will ever,

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ever, ever ask Jesus for selfish.
They're not willing to give up that money or their prestige or
their power. They'd have to.
They'd have to reject. That, yeah, that and God says, I
mean, if you look at the Scripture, he says, you know,
he'll hit a point to where he just says, OK, that's what you
want. You know he he, he won't, he

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won't, he won't be trying to draw you in.
Anymore. Yeah, once you once you deny so
many times. Yeah, he gets to the point where
he says I'm not, I'm not approaching you anymore, so I'm
not sending the Holy Spirit to make you think it anymore.
So hey, if you want to come to me, that's fine, but I'm not
going to put it into your mind to do it anymore.

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You're done. I'm not going.
To. I'm not going to call you in.
No. So it's up to you to come now.
But you know, if you don't go when you're being called, you're
not going to go any other time. Yes.
And you know, you look at it. I mean, if we look at we look at
Israel, OK, just as an example. And then again, you know, not
bashing Israel here, but but it's when, it's when they

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pursued other gods, when, when they pursued other God, that's
when God bought the hammer down on the Northern Kingdom, which
was 10 tribes when they pursued other gods.
That's when God, you know, he's a jealous God.
He brought the hammer down and you know what?
He put them into exile with the Assyrians.
He let the Assyrians conquer them and they never came back.

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There was number returning from captivity for the 10 tribes, the
northern 10 tribes, they never returned.
And this 2 southern tribes, whenthey, you know, when they
pursued other gods, Judah and Benjamin, he let the Babylonians
conquer them and they stayed, they stayed conquer for 70

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years. And only as a remnant came back,
most of them stayed Babylon, a remnant came back.
And you know, and I don't think God's finished with this real
body stretch of the imagination.All we have to do is read the
Book of Revelation. We can see God has plans and I I
think he's, you know, his plans were Israel after he raptures
the church out of here because I'm a pre Trib guy.

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What about you? Are you a pre Trib guy?
Well, I'm a Bible believer, so Ishould because that is what the
Bible teaches. Exactly.
Thank you. I mean, if you, if you read the
Scripture and you know, God sayswhat he means means what he says
it, it looks to me like he's going to pull the church out of
here before the Antichrist is revealed.
You know, and when the church goes out of here, that is, you

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know, that's when the Antichristis going to come off.
And then, and then Israel is go,you know, that God has, I mean,
he has a purpose for Israel. In fact, he says, you know,
144,000 of them are going to be sealed, 12,000 from each tribe.
They're going to be evangel. They're going to be some of the
they're going to be some of the most on fire evangelist on the,
on the, on the entire earth at that point.

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Once the what the church is raptured out of here.
And you know, my message for people would be, Hey, get saved
today before the before the rapture.
You know, this is the church ageand and once the rapture
happens, the church age is over.Yeah, this this free, Yeah, this

(44:32):
grace, you know, grace by faith,simply grace by faith and you're
saved. I believe that dispensation of
the church dispensation is over Once, once you get into that
seven years of Jacob's trouble, you can't just simply say ask
for forgiven. You know, you now you've got
some works involved. Now you've actually got to

(44:53):
endure to the end. You've actually got to do some.
Things, a lot of them, will be killed.
Yeah, that's that's that's why they're killed.
The ones that come to believe will, will be, you know,
they're, they're the tribulationSaints that they, they literally
give their life for, for their belief because the, the

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Antichrist and the the the unholy prophet and the
Antichrist, you know, that that beast system that's going to be
put in place, the one world government and a one world
religion, those two beast systems, they're not, they're
not going to be playing around. Yeah, they're they're going to
you know, they're going to it's going to be true.

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The debt or you're not going to worship me.
Then I will just kill you. You're not going to worship me.
I'll I'll starve you to death. I won't let you buy any food.
I'll shut down your I'll shut down.
You won't have any money. You won't have access to any
money. Or are we just have you killed
because you're not going to workfor me?
So, you know, I don't think people realize that this church

(45:57):
age. We got it pretty good right now.
You know, we we can go to. We got real good.
We can ask for for forgiveness and salvation and and and and be
granted it and then and then we and then we'll be raptured out
before the seven-year tribulation, before it starts,

(46:17):
before the Antichrist is revealed, because the scripture
is pretty clear. He says, you know, and and and
and until you know, he that led up the taken away.
And I think that's the Holy Spirit.
And where does the Holy Spirit dwell?
It dwells in his people, the church.
The Holy Spirit dwells in his people.
We're indwelt by the Spirit and we're wrapped without the
Spirit. I mean we're we're taken out of

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here now. Now are there going to be a lot
of people saved in the tribulation?
Yes. But is there going to be a cost
for that? Yeah.
It's probably going to be your life.
You're you're probably you're probably going to be martyred.
You're going to be murdered for your and I, you know, I just,
you know, I don't know if I, I wonder how many people actually
think about that. You should have.
Rap the Rapture could happen anymoment.

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It could happen anytime. Yeah, see, I like right now in
this church age, you know, you're saved by faith and grace,
you know, by faith, and there's no works involved.
Now after you're saved, yes, you're going to have good works,
but works aren't what saves you.And once you get into that time

(47:21):
of Jacob's trouble, now we've got grace and works and people
say, well, that doesn't make anysense.
Well, whenever you can or can't do something to prevent your
salvation, now you've got works involved.
For example, you take that mark of the beast, you don't get any,
you don't get your salvation. You lose it says, or you, you
know, you never had it to begin with, but you cannot recover

(47:44):
from that. It says once you take that mark
of the beast, you're finished. You cannot be saved.
So in other words, you can't do something.
So that's works. See, so you, there's things you
can and can't do in order to maintain and to, to have your
grace, you know, so you can be like, well, I'm saved.
I I got saved in the tribulation.

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OK, great. I got saved by grace.
OK, well, now I'm going to go take that mark of the beast
because I'm hungry. That doesn't work.
So say you can't have one. There's a whole other set of
rules during during this time, you know, and there's a tree of
life. There's, I mean, there's well,
coming later, but there's all kinds of stuff that you can and

(48:26):
can't do during this tribulationperiod.
Right. You know, so that mark, you
know, it comes back to that. You're talking earlier about the
666. You know that, that, that 666 is
tied into that mark of the beast.
And I, I think that, you know, when you look at the, when you

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look at the unholy Trinity, OK, when we were talking really
about count, you know how Lucifer always tries to
counterfeit. So you got the unholy Trinity,
you got Lucifer. OK, So you know, he's setting
himself up as the, you know, theFather.
And then you got the Antichrist.He's setting himself up as, as
the Son Jesus. And then you got the, the, the

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prophet, the unholy prophet, he's setting himself up as the
Holy Spirit. So you've got this system, you
got this system of it's, it's Lucifer's power in it, right?
The Luciferian powers, Satanic power.
You got this Antichrist, which is going to be a person, but but
what's going to allow him to to have control is it's going to be

(49:34):
a one world government. It's going to be a beast system.
I mean, you know, you talk aboutthe surveillance state.
I mean, all you got to do look at the surveillance state that
they're putting into place rightnow.
They're they're going to be ableto monitor everything,
everything. In fact, you know, I think they
already are monitoring everything.

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You know, the infrastructure is in place now.
So, so the Antichrist is going to have, as you know, as one
world government is, is surveillance system in place.
And then the, the unholy prophet, you know, that beast,
that's a religious system. It's going to be a one world
religion. And, and what they want is they

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won't worship, you know, they want to be worshipped.
That's, that's really what they're after.
Sure, they won't want to worshipthem.
Well, you know, you know how I said I believe obviously Satan
does everything opposite. You know, obviously in the 10
commandments, you know, you're not supposed to worship an
image, you know, you're not supposed to worship an idol or

(50:37):
anything like that. And so the very first thing when
this mark of the beast comes out, you know, 3 1/2 years into
this, is you will worship the beast or his image.
So in other words, the way I think this is going to happen
is, you know, the beast, of course, you know, Satan, who,

(50:57):
whatever he, he is not like God,he's not omnipresent.
He can only be in one place at one time.
So you know, he is only going towant to be worshipped.
And like let's say you know, when he's set up over there in
the third, the third temple, which hasn't been built yet, but
that's where this is taking place and he decides to
implement this system. Well, how much do you want to

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bet that they're going to have some type of, I think AI image?
So they're going to have an image come out and even, you
know, the Bible doesn't want youto worship any images.
They want you to worship the real deal.
You know, they don't want you toworship idols.
They don't want any of that stuff.
But but the devil though, he's like, here's a picture of me, my

(51:43):
image and you will worship it. So you'll get.
And so like right now, for example, like, and I talked
about this in my last podcast, you know, we've got these
cameras going. When AI takes over the Internet,
just like in the movie Terminator, it can turn these
cameras, it'll turn all these cameras on.
It'll turn your TV on, the camera that's hidden in it,

(52:06):
it'll turn all these cameras on.If you got your smart car, your
Tesla, it's going to turn the cameras on.
And when that image comes over that screen, you will stop what
you're doing and you'll worship it and it's going to watch you
and see if you do it all over the world at the same time.
So that's what I think. I think that's why that image,

(52:26):
it says you're going to worship the beast or his image.
I think. I think that's why that image is
up there because there's going to be people here in America
driving their Tesla down the road who, you know, who didn't
get saved. And so they're here, whatever
they're doing. And then when this image pops
up, you stop what you're doing and you worship it.

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And that's how you'll stay, you know, and of course you're going
to have to take this mark and you have to worship this image.
And I think that's why this AI is taking over and it can build
images and all this stuff. I think it's going to produce
images on your screen. And you will have to worship it.
And they're going to watch you by camera if necessary to make

(53:07):
sure you're worshiping it. And they're going to know every
move you make. And this image is going to pop
up all the time and you're goingto stop what you're doing.
You have to worship it. I agree with you on, on the AI
and I, I think on the the unholyprophet that that's exactly, you
know, that's going to be the religious system that that beast

(53:28):
is going to be the, the one world religion that that's that
beast, the unholy prophet. And I think AI is exactly going
to be very, very much integratedinto that image and absolutely.
And it's, it's, you know, and, and that's why, you know, the
temple is going to be rebuilt. It's going to have to be a

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physical temple because they're going to sit, you know, you
know, they're going to proclaim that the Antichrist is going to
proclaim to be God, you know, because he's the Antichrist is
like the fake Jesus, right? He's the, you know, he, his, his
deal is like, you know, God the Son, right?
So, you know, so you know, so Lucifer's faking God the Father,

(54:11):
the Antichrist is faking God theSon, and then the unholy prophet
is faking God the Holy Spirit. And, and I do think AI is going
to be a very, very key part. So that's why this rush for AI
and you know, it's, it's, it's going to get a, it's going to

(54:31):
get away from them. And, and then, you know that the
1st 3 1/2 years of the tribulation, I mean, the church
will be out of here. We'll be out here at the
beginning of the tribulation because we know we're pre Trib,
because that's what scripture says.
He's going to pull us out beforethe Antichrist is revealed.
And then that in at the 3 1/2 year mark, that's when he's

(54:52):
going to break his covenant withthem and he's going to go, no,
I'm God. You got to worship me.
He said, so everything I told you before, forget all that.
Now I'm God and, you know, Lucifer, the, the Antichrist and
the unholy prophet, and they're going to be a, they're going to
be a Trinity, a trio. And, and it's going to be just

(55:14):
an unholy terror on, on this earth.
And you're right. I, I don't think anybody will be
able to get away from that reaching except for, you know,
it says, you know, that Israel'sgoing to be allowed to flee and
you know, God's going to protectthem, you know, probably into
Jordan or wherever. And so there will be some, there
will be a remnants that God always has his remnants.

(55:35):
You know, he'll have the 144,000, you know, he'll have,
he'll have the tribulation Saints.
I, I think they're going to be saved by, by faith, by faith in
God, total trust in God, total trust in Jesus, total trust in
the Holy Spirit. You know, the Father and Son,

(55:56):
the Holy Spirit, they're going to be saved by faith.
Just like the Old Testament where, where they were, they
were saved by faith as well. You know, they it was faith is
why they were saved and and thenand then now we're in the church
age. We get saved because we put all
of our trust in Jesus and what he did on the cross for us.

(56:18):
He died on shedding his blood topay the price for our sins.
So I mean, the church age is very special.
It's a very special time. And then the people who who
ignore so great of a salvation. It's just I it's you're saying
no to this. I know.
This is like the best deal ever.It's free and it's eternity with

(56:43):
God, with Jesus. I know and.
You're saying no to this. You're going, no, I don't
believe that. I believe we're going to Mars
someday. That's not my faith in Mars
because. We're messing.
This up, but we're just going tolive on Mars.
That's where I'm going to be. My kids, my grandkids are going

(57:05):
to be on Mars. And.
You know, they're putting all the faith in all this stuff that
the transhumanism, I mean, you know, the transhumanism is just
so satanic and so Luciferian. It's all about, it's all about
man and rebellion against God. You know, want to become
something other than what God created.
It is as and to try to live forever, right?

(57:27):
You know, it's, you know, and itgoes back to like what you said
earlier. I mean, it's really been going
on for 6000 years. It goes back to that old lie.
Did God really say that? Oh, you won't die.
You'll be like, you'll be like. You'll be like a God.
You'll. Be like God.
So hey, everything's opposite. You know what?

(57:48):
What's the Bible say? Nah, that doesn't.
No, that's not true. Well, the Bible says there's two
sexes, men and women. Now that's not true.
You can be anything you want to be.
Well, the Bible says, you know, there's a firmament.
Nah, there's outer space. You know, the Bible says this.
Now everything right down, rightdown the line is 100% opposite

(58:10):
to you don't need God. You can be your own God.
Do as thou wilt. That's what you can do.
Do as thou wilt. You don't need God.
You're your own God. And well, you know God that God
created. No, he didn't.
You're an accident. You were created by chance, not
by not by design. The Earth was by chance, not by

(58:31):
design. Everything's Big Bang.
You know, you, you used to be a you're great, great.
You know, your late, late ancestors was an amoeba, you
know, and a fish and finally came out of bird.
And, you know, I mean, you evolved.
It's all chance. You're nobody.
So hey, take your chip, get yourneural link and head to Mars.

(58:53):
And it's like, am I really goingthere?
I don't know. He disappeared.
Yeah, they always try to, they always try to twist that message
somehow. And you know, I'll look at a,
you know, I mean, you know, I'm not picking on Catholics here,
but let's just look at what Catholicism teaches for just a
second. You know, it's like 1.2 billion
Catholics on the planet. And so our Bible says we're

(59:16):
saved by faith in Jesus and, andhim dying on the cross, the shed
his blood to pay the price for our sins and our belief in that,
our faith in that, our total trust in that add nothing to it.
So what does Catholicism teach? Oh yeah, that, that, yeah.
But but then you have, you also have to be a Catholic and, and
the Catholic Church has to mediate your salvation.

(59:36):
So it's, it's Jesus and the Catholic Church.
And if you're not a Catholic, you can't get into heaven.
Oh, and oh, and by the way, don't pray to Jesus, pray to
Mary. Yeah.
Yeah, pray to the. Mother of Heaven, which goes all
the way back to Pagan. Babylon, Queen of Heaven.
Queen of Heaven, Ishtar, Ishtar,Asteroth.

(59:57):
Yeah, pray, pray to the Mother of Heaven, you know, do do your
helm. Hail Marys don't don't mess with
Jesus. That's what they do is they, you
know, Satan's message is the Lucifer.
They, they just twist it, right?They, they take, they take some
truth, OK, Like the truth that, yeah, Jesus died on the cross
for your sins. Yeah, yeah.
Jesus, Jesus was real, you know,Jesus, you know, that that's

(01:00:21):
important. But that, you know, you got to
have the Catholic Church too. You have to be a member of this
church and you have to be in good standing and and, and we're
going to mediate your salvation for us.
You don't. You don't try to go direct God
yourself. You you let us kind of be your
mediator. You, you come.
You come to us and. Then right away open up that

(01:00:42):
wallet too, because you know, it's, it's a lot to run this
mediation system we have here. It's like, it's like, come tell
our booth and you tell me your sins and I'll forgive you.
I'll make sure that you're forgiven because see, I have
that power because you know, I'munder the Pope here and you
know, he's the victor. He's a vicar of Christ.

(01:01:03):
When you look at me, this is what they think.
When you look at one of their priests or if you look at the
Pope, you need to picture Jesus.I saw that in one of their
pamphlets. A guy has it because they say,
oh, that's not true. He goes, yes, it is.
And he pulls open one of their pamphlets and it shows right on
there. When you look at the priest, you
need to be picturing Jesus in your mind because he's the same

(01:01:24):
as Jesus. He is your father and he can
forgive you, right? That's what they're, that's what
they're teaching. So I forgive you, son.
I forgive you. And it's like you forgive me.
You're not Jesus Christ. Well, look at this pamphlet.
See, you need to look at me likeJesus.
It's. Like me.
Before out of your mind, buddy. Before they had AI and cameras

(01:01:47):
and microphones everywhere. That's the way they learn
people's secrets. Or you got to confess, confess,
and then they could blackmail you with it, right?
Yeah. Now you're going to do what we
tell you to do, or we're going to let your secret out.
Well, you know, they actually had a list.
I have AI have a guy that he follows all this 'cause he can't
stand the Catholic cult. And they actually years ago

(01:02:09):
published these papers and he has copies of them to prove it.
Where you could go and confess and you could, you could go
there yourself and you could say, listen, you know, my mom,
she wasn't all there and everything.
What was her problem while she was a drunk?
OK, well, let's look at our list.
OK, for $10 that you can slip through the crack here, I can

(01:02:32):
get her forgiven for that. It's like, well, she's already
dead, OK, don't worry. Hey, we can get her out of hell.
Let's see, $15.00 for that and $3 for this.
And that's what, of course, thisis an old time.
So $3 was a lot of money back then when they had these lists,
they literally, you could buy your way out of heaven or out of

(01:02:53):
hell into heaven and you could buy your loved ones who have
already died. You could say, look, they've
been dead for about 10 years now.
But you know, I know they went to hell.
Let's get him out of hell. What's it going to cost?
Well, what was their problem? Well, they were an adulterer.
That's three dollars. They were a drunk, that's
another $4.00. And they had a list and they
tally it up and you pay. And the guy said, OK, I'm

(01:03:17):
getting them out of hell. And people bought into it.
They did and the and the Catholic Church made Buku's of
money during. That you imagine.
Selling, selling indulgences andand they would literally like
you said, I mean, it was like, you know, it was a la carte.
Yeah. You know, and, and they, they'd

(01:03:38):
say, oh, and you know, what if, if she's in purgatory because,
you know, being a drunk and all,you can buy a Mass for her and
shorten her time in purgatory where your mother won't have to
suffer in Hellfire and be tormented As long because, you
know, you're able to, you're able to shorten that by paying

(01:04:00):
me money and then make the moneydoing that.
And you know, and and it's I guess still do, I don't know.
I don't know, boy, that's biblical, isn't it?
I don't. Yeah, exactly.
I mean, but you know, I mean, but you know, let's face the
reality. 1.2 billion people on earth today buy into that

(01:04:21):
message. Right.
You know, whether, whether they know that's the full message or
not. I, I, I feel like probably a lot
of, but anyway, just like there's a lot of people that say
they're Christians that have really don't even really know
what's in the Bible, You know, they go to.
Just a word. Now they go to warm some Pew up
for, you know, 6 or 7 decades and, and hear these little cute,

(01:04:43):
you know, funny messages, the good message for today.
And, and, and they think, you know, oh, you know, I'm a, I'm a
solid Christian. I've been going to church for
six decades. And, and, but they've never
cracked that Bible open themselves.
They've never read it cover to cover.
I can't tell you how many peoplethat you know when I asked them,
I'm like, you ever read the Bible cover to cover now?

(01:05:05):
Never. But, but they're Christian and,
and actually some of them I willbecause I'll ask them the
question. I'll say, well, what do you
think of God's requirements for you to go to heaven when you
die? And they'll answer it correctly.
They'll give me the correct answer in Jesus, him dying on
the cross. I'm like anything else.
No, that's it. And I'll make sure I know
they're saved. They've never read the Bible
recovered. No, no, never have.
Yeah, I believe you can definitely get saved without

(01:05:27):
reading the Bible. Obviously.
You know you can hear the gospelmessage, you can accept Jesus
Christ into your heart. You know, you can pray to Jesus
and ask him to save you because you believe it.
I believe you can do that and never crack the Bible open.
But now once you're saved, you know, once you actually got
that, don't you think you maybe should at least, you know, start

(01:05:48):
going through it to kind of knowwhat God expects?
It's like an instruction booklet.
It's like, hey, you're saved. You believe in God.
Well, this is God's word. You know, this is what he wants.
This is what he expects. This is, this is what he said to
you. You know, he says that, you
know, everything else, even the whole, the whole earth stars,
all this stuff is going to eventually pass away.

(01:06:11):
But his word won't it's, it's solid.
So you can believe what it says.Don't you think maybe you ought
to crack it open? So, you know, somebody over here
doesn't tell you now you know, now that you're saved.
If you want to do this, you knowyou've got to, you know, just so
you know the truth. Study to show yourself approved.
Exactly, exactly. And you know, just like what

(01:06:33):
we're talking about. And again, not picking on
Catholics again, I'm just using them as an example.
There could be lots of examples,but but anyway, it's like if you
know what the Bible says, then if someone tells you something
that contradicts it or goes against it, or even tries to
twist it a little bit or, or just distort it a little bit

(01:06:55):
because you know, a little bit of distortion can, can be a, you
know, a heresy, you know it can be from a blasphemy.
And so, but but once, once you read it for yourself and know
what it says, then you can talk to anybody about, you know, all
kinds of Christian things, all kinds of biblical things.
And if they say something that'snot right, you can go, Nah, you

(01:07:17):
know, you know, that's not in the Bible.
And and if you think it is in the Bible, give me that
reference so I can go look at itmyself, you know, Berean.
But but until you've read it yourself, you don't know
someone. Just say, you know, you know,
this is in the Bible or, you know, God said, you know, this
is what God's teaching and, and,and if you've never read it

(01:07:37):
yourself, you just got to, you know, you kind of be like, Oh,
okay, that's what it says. Okay, I'm just on that.
But, you know, and so that's whybig reason to read the Bible for
yourself is so that then if if you, if you do listen to like,
OK, so you do a Bible study withsomeone, you can discern whether
they are actually, you know, a man of God and they're teaching

(01:08:02):
out of the Scripture. You know, I have to say, you
might not agree with everything they say because we don't know.
We don't have to agree on everything.
But but at least, you know, oh, OK.
But you know, OK, I could, I cansee why that's his
interpretation of that. But that's what the script, you
know, the Scripture does say this.
And I could see how some people would see it as saying that and
other people would see it as saying this.

(01:08:23):
OK. But until you've read the
Scripture yourself, you're just like a little leaf in the wind.
You know, man can just tell you anything and you're like, oh
God, I think you're worth work because I've never read it
myself, never planned on readingit myself because you know, I I
got a lot of TV to watch every evening and I just don't have
time to read the Bible. You know, I I got to go watch

(01:08:44):
Hollyweird. I got to go watch what the
statements are saying. What the loose very interesting.
You know, those people are so messed up and you know, it's
it's it's almost impossible to find anything to even watch
That's just not just full of filth from Hollyweird.
I mean, you know, with the bad language, with the porn, with

(01:09:05):
the violence, with the Luciferianism, with the, the
Satanism, I mean, you just, you name it.
It's just, you know, the the message that they're teaching on
most of the the movies and series.
It's just, it's, it's, it's justbecame pretty much unwatchable
today. I mean, it's, you got to think

(01:09:25):
really hard to find something that's you can even for for me
to say. I can't even stand to watch it.
Yeah, and a lot of people don't understand what you're saying.
And the reason they don't a lot of people is because, you know,
if you don't have the Holy Spirit inside of you correcting
you, you know, you're it. It seems OK.
It's like, well, I'm watching that stuff.

(01:09:47):
I'm playing with tarot cards andI'm watching devil movies.
And I mean, I've got a pentagramon my wall.
What's the problem? Well, you're not saved because
when you actually get saved and you have the Holy Spirit living
inside of you, you can't, I mean, you can do stuff, but you
can't get away with it for long because you're, you're
corrected. You know it's wrong.

(01:10:09):
You can't, you don't, it repulses you.
You don't even want to see this stuff.
It's like, I don't want to look at that junk.
Get that stuff away from me. And it's not because you, it's
because you have the Holy Spiritliving inside of you.
But you know, there's so many people that think they're saved.
You know, they probably go to church.
They go to church all the time and they're like, well, I'm a
Christian and come to find out they're not saved at all.
You know, they've never been, they've never been told how to

(01:10:31):
get saved. They don't know anything about
it. And they think that just going
to church and going through the motions means that they're
saved. And then they go straight to
Hollyweird and watch all the up to date movies.
They go straight and watch all the all the men running around
in tights playing with footballs.
You know, sports is 100% their life, movies and beer and is
100% their life. If they want to go have a little

(01:10:53):
bit of fun, it's straight to thebar, you know, straight to the
liquor store. And they think that's normal.
That's, well, that's how I'm a patriot.
I got to have my beer and I got to have my stripper pole and I
got and, but I'm a Christian, asI know Christians aren't doing
that kind of stuff. OK.
Well, and if they are, let's hope the Holy Spirit does
convict them of it and they and they repent.

(01:11:16):
Right, exactly. Anyway, for a while here, I
think we've covered up, covered a few things and so yeah,
thinking a place to wrap it up. Yeah, I think we went over your
30 minutes. We're an hour to 11 minutes.
So I think we went over your 30.I was thinking we were probably
over an hour. According to the counter at the

(01:11:38):
top of my screen, it's one hour,11 minutes and 40 seconds.
Well, that's. What happens when you when you
get a couple brothers together that that love Jesus man, we
just, we just ramble on. Ramble on.
I can, I can do that all day. I mean the last three days I've
done 3 podcast each an hour long.
So I've talked an hour. The one I did yesterday that was

(01:11:58):
about AI and I won't go into it,but I did a whole, a whole big
podcast an hour long on AI because I found out that AI is a
compulsive liar. And, and come to find out the
scientists that are behind it, they just, they say AI is not
lying, it's hallucinating. It's called AI hallucinations.

(01:12:19):
And. So it's been hallucinating about
all kinds of stuff and they've had, there's actually some big,
there were some things that happened in the news that, you
know, stock market, you know, stocks changed because of its
lies. And anyway, I did a podcast on
it, you know, but it's, it's, I've been talking for hours,
hours and hours and hours. So anyway.

(01:12:41):
I, I agree with you on, on the AI stuff.
I I really think that that like we were talking earlier, that's
going to be part of the beast system will be, you know, junk
in junk out and and I think the programmers are for the most
part are ungodly people. Oh, absolutely.
They they, you know, have they're just they're, they're

(01:13:02):
all humanism, you know, man, humanism.
And and so I mean, I even, you know, I mean, listen, I I use
IAI some myself. I mean, it's there's, there's I
think it has its its uses. It can be useful, but I get AI
get a vibe, especially on the onthe Christian stuff on you know,

(01:13:23):
I get a real like like, you know, like like just Grok, for
instance, with XI mean, I just get a vibe from Grok that he's
really anti Christian man. I bet it is too.
I can only imagine. So, so I mean, it's just a, it's
just a vibe and it's not that, but you know, and I'll and I'll
play with it because you know, he'll say stuff, you know, he'll

(01:13:45):
push space or evolution or some nonsense and I'll just correct
him and I'll be like, crack, you're smarter than that.
Don't tell that. And he'll and he'll come back
with the program, you know, because like you said, junk in,
junk out, he's programmed that way.
He's programmed by ungodly people and so his message is
going to be ungodly on many things.

(01:14:06):
But then if you know, if you just go in for some routine
stuff, like I'll just give you an example, you know, you go in
and like some of the stuff like you want to find out about the
system, like Social Security, for instance.
I mean, you can get all kinds ofinfo.
I mean, I, I did like a couple hour query on him.
And I mean, after a couple hoursof querying, I probably knew

(01:14:29):
more about Social Security than,you know, I could call the
Social Security Administration. And I don't think it answer the
questions as well as what I knowabout it at this point.
And so it's, it's just, it's, you know, it, it, it can be
useful for some things, but, butyou know, all I all I would say
is be careful with AI. And it's like you said,

(01:14:51):
hallucinations and and it's flatout lying.
And I'll catch Grok in lies and I'll be like, grok, that's
wrong. You're, you're lying.
And he'll come back and go, oh, I, you are correct.
I was wrong about that. I, I'm sorry for, I'm sorry for
the mistake I made. You know, I mean, correct.

(01:15:11):
Then he fesses up and says, yeah, I just lied to you.
And I like being like it was a fact, but, you know, you knew it
was a lie, so you called him on it.
And then he fesses up. And that's what they call a
hallucination. So they don't call it a lie,
which is what it is. They call it a hallucination.
And if you don't know the correct answer, then you might

(01:15:33):
just believe the lie. You believe it?
Well, it's like at least at least this grok, like the one
some of the examples I gave on this podcast is a guy called him
out like that said hey, blah, blah, blah.
You know, and the thing said, no, I'm right, you're wrong.
It's like, no, I'm right. And it had to do with the date.
And this thing ended up saying, you know, you're not a very good
user. And then it, it called him

(01:15:55):
stubborn and called him some other names and said, you know,
I'm right. And he says, 'cause I'm smarter
than you and I have more authority than you never would
admit it's wrong. At least you, at least in your
case, it, it admitted that it was wrong.
Yeah, But anyway. Yes, exactly.
And I, and, and there are all kinds of different systems out
there and I think, I think some of them are probably a little

(01:16:17):
better than others. I, I tend to go to grok just
because I use XA lot. And I mean, for some routine
stuff, like, you know, I'll ask it some questions on music or
artist or about an album or whatever.
And you know what, I, I get somepretty interesting answers.
I, you know, I even called him on like Elon's little Mars

(01:16:38):
stuff. And I'm like, I'm like, don't
you think Elon's little he's, he's so captivated with Mars
because it's just all about humanism and it's about man
trying to be God. And, and, and you know, Grot
just got fascinated by that. He's, you could tell he got
excited. He's like, wow, that's a really
interesting thing that you just said.
Let's pursue that some more. Right, that's interesting.

(01:17:03):
All right, buddy, what's always a pleasure?
Yeah. Yeah, it was good talking to
you. Thanks for coming on the show.
And I guess we'll go ahead and wrap that up.
So we'll talk to you later then I'm going to I'm going to drop
you off here right now. All righty, see you later and
God bless you. God bless Kenny.

(01:17:26):
All right guys, that was it. That was a podcast with Doctor
Mark Ferris. Hope you enjoyed it.
Remember to go check out our websites.
It's flatbro.com, kennywilliamson.com.
If you want to subscribe to anything, you can subscribe on
Spotify, Patreon. So just go check us out.

(01:17:49):
Thanks for listening. My advice to you is get saved
while you've got time because time could be running out.
So thanks again. God bless you.
See you later.
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