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June 4, 2025 65 mins

In this episode, I read directly from an article published in Prophecy Watcher Magazine that attempts to persuade readers that the Earth is a spinning globe. I go point by point through their claims—debunking the deception, exposing the contradictions, and revealing the truth hidden behind the mainstream narrative. If you’ve ever wondered how far the globe lie reaches—even into Christian publications—don’t miss this breakdown. Open your Bible, open your mind, and let’s seek the truth together.


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(00:47):
Hello and welcome back to another episode of Mckills Deck
Chronicles. Today I'm going to be talking
just a little bit about some Flat Earth stuff.
OK. And the reason why is I have I
have a lot of people that listento the show that they TuneIn and

(01:10):
they like to send me mail and different things.
So I have a listener. I think he's a listener.
I'm not really sure. I don't know if he listens to
the podcast or not. Either way, his name is Ken and
he's from California. And he sends me these different
prophecy watchers, these magazines right here.

(01:32):
Now you see the article on this one here, right?
Is the earth really flat? OK.
And there's the there's your typical.
Now I say typical. Maybe it's atypical because see,
what they have is they have their little Flat Earth out
there with their Dome, which is,you know, similar to what a flat
earther believes. But they also have this thing

(01:54):
stuck out in outer space floating around, which is
clearly a fallacy. OK.
So I thought this was pretty interesting, a pretty
interesting read. You know, this is a Christian
magazine, and here's the article, OK?
And here's a guy that here's a guy that wrote it here.

(02:15):
His name is Mondo Gonzalez, OK? So what I'm going to do is
briefly kind of go over what they're printing in these
magazines, OK? Again, this is a, you know, this
is a Christian magazine, OK? And I've said this lots of times
before, and I want to explain this to you, OK?

(02:38):
This is my belief and this is how I'm going to explain it to
you if you don't understand it, OK, They, you, you can have a
Christian who has never read theBible, OK?
A Christian can have heard the gospel.
He can have heard the gospel message from somebody, from a
preacher, from anybody, and he can accept Jesus Christ and he

(03:00):
can get saved and he has eternal, eternal salvation.
OK, so you can be a Christian and have gotten saved and have
never picked up and read a Bible.
OK, you just you just followed what a another person told you
and you believed it, you did it and you got your free gift.

(03:22):
OK, that's one. Now you also can be a Christian
and you can you know, read your Bible or read part of the Bible
and not necessarily believe whatit says.
OK, so I call those non Bible believing Christians.

(03:46):
So what they did is they got saved so they believe that.
But then when they get into reading the Bible, they don't
believe it. They believe or very little of
it. OK, I guess they believe the
salvation message part but not much else.
And then you, what you have is what I consider myself is a
Bible believing Christian. OK, So what that means is you

(04:10):
read your Bible, you understand that it's God's perfect word.
And I don't mean a perverted Bible.
I'm talking about a King James Bible, OK?
One that has not omitted everything.
So you read your Bible and you believe your Bible.
Why? Because it's God's word and

(04:32):
that's what a Bible believing Christian does.
Now, I know lots of Christians and I believe they're probably
saved. You know, some of them aren't,
some of them are. And they claim to be Bible
believing Christians, but I don't believe that they are OK.

(04:55):
And the reason for that is the the Bible teaches certain
things, certain truths. It spells it out for you.
And these people, these Bible believing Christians, so-called,
they will read the same verse that I do and they say it means
something completely different or they will literally 100%

(05:20):
discount what it says, OK? And they'll say, hey, I don't
believe what it says. And here's why.
Because science, because man knows better.
Man discover this man said that.So what they do is they choose

(05:43):
man over God, OK? And that's what's going on here
in this deal right here. Now, this guy here, he may be a
Christian, he may be saved. He talks a little bit about
Jesus Christ, but he's clearly not a Bible believer.
And I can prove that by what he says.

(06:06):
OK. So you know, he goes on and and
right in the beginning, he starts talking about how, you
know, he's going to look up at the stars or he is looking up at
the stars in the sky himself with a telescope.
Great. That's great news.
Did did God create that? Absolutely.
He tells you when he created it.He tells you where he put it

(06:30):
right there in Genesis first page.
So looking up in the telescope, does that prove anything?
Absolutely not. All it proves is what the Bible
already says. God put the stars up there.
He put the moon, he put the sun.He tells you why he put them
there so you can navigate by them, so you can see the days,

(06:54):
the years, the months. They're all there for you to
see. Oh, by the way, they never
change. They've never changed and
they're never going to change. Now this guy here, he says
that's because we're spinning ina water ball in outer space.

(07:15):
So he makes some contradictions that even, you know, anybody
that knows anything if you, if you were to tell them that it
doesn't make any sense. But this, this guy here, he's a
man believer, not a Bible believer.
So he, he points out very quickly in this article that you

(07:35):
can't trust God's word. You know, you can't take it
literally. So in other words, he's one of
the guys that takes everything spiritually.
So let me explain something. When you do that real quick, OK?
When you take a verse in the Bible, and this is a rule of
thumb, OK, when you read your Bible and it tells you

(08:00):
something, you take it literally.
You take it literally every single time, unless there's
absolutely no way possible it could be literal.
And there are a few examples of that.
OK, so in other words, let's letlet's let's talk about a literal
Bible believer like myself. Whenever the Bible tells you

(08:24):
that there was a man named Noah and God came to him and told him
to build an ark and he told him what to build it out of.
And he told him the dimensions and he told him all about it.
OK, that's literal. The guy really built a boat.

(08:46):
There's no reason to spiritualize that.
You see what I'm saying? But there are so-called
Christians that come along and they spiritualize it.
Well, you know, Noah is a typology of, you know, there
wasn't really a flood or there might have been a local flood in
the area. But you know, you know that.

(09:07):
Just talk. You see what I'm saying?
They take literal word for word and they try to spiritualize it
into whatever they want it to mean.
So in other words, this guy and a lot of the others, they say,
listen, go read your Bible, but don't believe what it says.

(09:30):
I'll tell you what it says. So if it says God created the
moon and he, he created the sun and he tells you why, you know,
hey, I've got a telescope and I know better.
I know better than what God did because see, I've got a
telescope, OK, All you're seeingis God's creation.
I don't care if you look up there and you think you see

(09:52):
nebulas and galaxies, you can call it whatever you want.
God simply calls it stars and wandering stars.
That's what the Bible calls it. And he says that he created so
many that you can't number them.That means there's a whole lot.
God already told you that. So if you take your telescope
and you point it up into, you know, into the sky and you see

(10:15):
billions of stuff, well, of course you do.
Of course you do. God said that, that you can't
number it. Only he knows, not you, not man.
Man's never going to know. OK, so let's get started here.
One of the things this guy starts off with, and he says,
and I'm going to read this here to you, is that, and this is his

(10:37):
first, this is his first cop out, in my opinion.
This is all my opinion, by the way.
He says here, with the availability of the Internet,
specifically YouTube, there has been a resurgence of a belief in
the idea that the Earth is flat.Well, yeah, there is.

(11:04):
And do you want to know why? Because all the ancients,
Hebrews included, you're Jews, everybody taught that the earth
was flat. Do you know why they did that?
Because that's what the Bible teaches.
It's biblical. It's not, it's not made-up.

(11:25):
That's what the Bible teaches. All of your ancient, all of your
ancients all the way back, that's what they believed.
And they all have pictures of itto prove it.
And I don't have a picture here handy, but I, I've put it up
before. The Egyptians believed it.
The Hebrews could be all of them.
They all have a picture of the Dome, the Flat Earth, the whole
9 yards, Sheol or what they callhell underneath that.

(11:51):
That's what the Bible teaches. But now let's let's not believe
what the Bible teaches. Let's go with what NASA says.
You know, NASA, OK, the one thathas the serpent tongue as a
logo, the one that has the Satanist and devil worshippers
as their founders, like, you know, Crowley, the one that has

(12:14):
the Nazis as the ones that made the Rockets.
The ones, you know, the Nazis like Wernher von Braun, who
later on his deathbed told his secretary that it was all fake
and he made it up. Never mind that and the fact
that he actually has Psalm 19 onhis tombstone, which talks about

(12:38):
the firmament. OK, But according to this guy
here, the firmament doesn't exist.
So but he's going to tell you later on.
See, firmament could mean anything.
So we're going to, even though it's described in Job, we're
going to take it and we're goingto pretend it's something it's

(12:58):
not. And then we're going to start
throwing out other languages like Greek and Hebrew, and we're
going to say, now this means this in another Greek.
Let me tell you something any time, OK?
Number one, you have the perfectword of God in the King James
Bible already translated for you.

(13:20):
English is the is the language of the end times, OK?
That's just a fact. Everybody, everything, even the
FAA requires you to speak English.
OK, when the King James Bible iswritten, English was in its
pinnacle. It has since degraded.

(13:42):
OK, when the when the King JamesBible was printed, they knew
their stuff, OK, It was printed,it was translated.
They know what they're doing. There's a lot of translators
involved. We can go over all that in a
different podcast, but these guys, that's what they dedicated
many, many years to do it. OK, So now what we have is we

(14:06):
have people come out and we've got these new versions of Greek,
new versions of this and that, like Wescott and Hort, which
were known devils, OK, people who didn't like the Bible.
So they come in and they retranslate the Greek and they
translate it differently. And so then you've got a guy

(14:27):
like this come out and say, well, now you need to go to the
Greek. Well, which one?
There's only like 27 copies now.They just keep changing it.
You see, it's, it's like moving the goal post.
What you do is you have a perfect version in English
already. But you don't want to believe

(14:47):
that, see, because it will tell you that you're a Sinner, that
man's heart is continually evil all the time, that you're not a
Christian until you get saved. You're not a child of God until
the accept Jesus Christ, OK, It tells you where you're going to
go, how you're going to get there.
It tells you all about the future prophecies, OK, but see,

(15:11):
man doesn't like that because man wants to come in and they
want to say I'm God. I don't want to go on your
schedule. It's my schedule and I shouldn't
have to do what God says. I want to do what I want to do.
So if I want to, you know, commit adultery, that's fine.

(15:33):
I can do it. The Bible says not to just erase
it out, come up with another version.
Well, the Bible says not to do this, this, this and this.
So just just mark it all out andcome out with another version.
OK. And then we'll tell everybody
that this one's old man equated,you know, that that's what we're
doing here. So we're changing the words and

(15:55):
we're running back to the Greek in the Hebrew, a dead language.
OK, but which one are we runningback to?
The guys that translated the King James Bible, they knew all
this stuff already. They have the perfect
translation. So but what happens is is guys
like this and many under many others is they will run back to

(16:16):
that because they want to changewhat the Bible says every time.
So if you read the Bible and it tells you black is black and
white is white, pretty simple, right?
Well, you know, black in the Hebrew and the Greek and this.
So it really could have meant this.
It could have meant that. And so then they try to change

(16:37):
it because they don't want to admit what it just said.
So we have lots of that going on.
But this guy here says that because of YouTube and stuff,
you know, and people are starting to think the earth is
flat. Well, that's called truth.
People actually getting the truth out.
See a guy like this, he'd be really happy if you only listen

(16:59):
to him and the Catholic Church. That's what the Catholic Church
wanted. You can't have a Bible because
you're too dumb to understand it.
So we're going to keep it. You have to come to us to find
out anything about the Bible. And then what we're going to do
is we're going to tell you all kinds of lies so you can keep

(17:19):
doing stuff for us and giving usmoney.
And you really don't know. So then other people came along
like Tyndale and said, hey, you know, we need to have a Bible in
a regular person's hands so theycan understand the word of God.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. You go through us.
And so they, they proceeded to translate the Bible, of course.

(17:40):
And guess who you know, burned them at the stake?
Well, the Catholics, they don't,they don't want you having the
actual word of God. It got out anyway.
And then as soon as it came out,then we had all the satanic
perversions follow it. And they're up in the two
hundreds now. You know, if, if their first
translation after the King Jameswas so much better, their

(18:00):
improved version, why are we up to almost 200 of them now?
I just can't seem to get them right.
Or is it because it's a per version and it's all about this
right here. King James Bible is the only
Bible that doesn't have a copyright.
OK. And one of the guys that owns

(18:20):
the copyright to the NIV, the non inspired version, Well, he
also has a copyright to the Satanic Bible.
Just think about that for a minute.
OK, Tell me how we're doing God's, God's will.
OK, putting a copyright on it. So you can't copy it yourself or
so many words. Then you have to ask for

(18:41):
permission. And of course now with these
government copyrights, you know,they have to be changed a
minimum of 10% for another copyright.
So we're going to take God's word and we're going to put our
man made words in there to change it for a dollar so we can
put a copyright on it. Tell me all about it.

(19:04):
Yeah, try to convince me otherwise.
King James Bible is the only onethat's copyright free, which
makes sense. So this guy doesn't like the
fact that YouTube, you know, there's a resurgence belief in
Flat Earth. Why?
I don't know why he would care, but he does.

(19:24):
So let's see. So he goes on and he know he
throws a little bit of, he throws just a little bit of
Bible in here, you know, to try to muddy it up and say, well, as
I mentioned, deception is going to be rampant in the last days.
Not only did Jesus predict this,but Paul did in Second
Thessalonians. Yeah, Yeah, he did.
That's true. So but you're saying the Flat

(19:46):
Earth is the deception? Wow.
Are you a devil, a liar or just deceived or all, all the above?
I mean, I'm going to lean with devil until proven otherwise.
See, because what he's doing here is he's taking scripture

(20:08):
and he's throwing it out there saying, oh, it's going to mean,
you know, you're going to be deceived in the last days.
Really. What do they actually teach?
They don't teach Flat Earth anywhere.
They teach the globe. Every Hollywood movie teaches
the globe. Every Hollywood movie has a
globe. Most of their logos are a globe.

(20:29):
Every teacher in the United States of America, in probably
in the world teaches a globe. Everyone.
Every government agency teaches globe.
Everyone. Every government agency teaches
evolution. Everyone.
They teach that you're nobody. They teach that you came from a

(20:50):
monkey, from an amoeba. They teach, they teach a Big
Bang Theory. That's how the globe found what?
That's how the globe was formed.I mean, doesn't this cat here
know that? Doesn't he know that this water
ball spinning in outer space at 1000 miles an hour and going
around the sun at 66.6000 miles an hour and this whole thing

(21:11):
going through space at 500,000? Doesn't he know that happened
from The Big Bang, from evolution we got here from
evolution out of The Big Bang? This right here is from The Big
Bang? Doesn't he know that?
Hey, but don't you mention anything biblical.

(21:32):
What the Bible says the Bible says it's not spinning.
The Bible says it's stationary. OK, what does NASA say?
Oh, it's spinning. It's not stationary.
You go outside and look for yourself.
Don't you see it spinning? Oh, you don't.
Oh, well, you're not NASA. You're not NASA, so how would

(21:55):
you know? You're not government.
How would you know? Well, well, well, the Earth,
they said it's spinning at 1000 miles an hour.
Where's the wind? Where's the 1000 mile an hour
winds? Oh, well, atmosphere spinning at
the same speed. Wow.

(22:16):
So air is spinning at the same. It's it's a magic.
It's a magic trick. Well, you know, but a guy like
this, because that's the way Goddesigned it.
Why didn't God mention that in the Bible then?
Why did God say that it's stationary?
Why did God say that the sun andthe moon is what's moving around

(22:37):
the earth? Why did he say that?
Why did he say that in certain times in battles, whenever it
was prayed for, that he actuallymade the sun go the opposite
direction, Not the earth, the sun.
I guess he lied. Maybe God didn't understand.
Maybe the Holy Spirit who helped, you know, inspire the

(22:57):
words of God, you know, the spired book.
He must have been too stupid to understand.
You know, he's like, oh, I thought, I thought that it was
lucid when it was the Earth the whole time, even though I
created it, even though I'm all knowing, omnipresent, the whole
9 yards. Hey, but come on in, Mr. Mr.

(23:21):
Magazine, man, and tell me how I'm wrong and you're right
because you've got a telescope and you looked up at my
creation. Now all of a sudden you're going
to tell me that you're on a spinning water ball.
Prove it. Well, he can't.
All he wants to talk about is outer space and galaxies.
Well, yeah, there's there is a lot of stuff above our head that

(23:42):
doesn't mean anything about whatyou're standing on.
OK, lay down in your living roomfloor and look up at the light
bulb. OK.
Are you on a light bulb? No, you're on a floor.
A flat floor looking up at a light bulb.
OK, we're on a flat surface looking up at something.

(24:03):
Stars, wondering stars. You can call them galaxies if
you want. Doesn't matter what you call
them. You're looking at something that
God created and put in the firmament.
That's what the Bible says. And you can't number them.
But we're going to sit down hereand say, well, because that
looks like a circle up there. That looks like a globe or that
looks like this or it looks likethat, that that's what what we

(24:25):
must be on too. So we're going to make up a
bunch of fake numbers and print it.
And of course, it was all created not by God by accident.
So. So, yeah, deception is going to
run rampant in the last days, but I promise you, Flat Earth,

(24:45):
that's your deception. The world, OK, The globe,
Everybody on Earth believes the globe unless you're a flat
earther. OK, so what's being taught?
He acts like like this is the big.
This is not what's being taught.How could this be the deception?

(25:09):
It's not what he believes, but you know, hey, non Bible
believer, you know, OK, this is an interesting statement here.
OK, when it comes to the gospel there, there are those who are
unsaved really and scientific minded.

(25:33):
So OK, they have come to believethat the Bible teaches a Flat
Earth. Therefore the Bible is seen as
untrust. Untrustworthy.
So you believe NASA instead of the Bible?

(25:57):
You believe the junk that they put out astronauts on wires,
fake everything. You know, $73 million a day
budget for nothing. Boy, would you like to have this
guy as your preacher? Man, man, man, you believe.

(26:20):
Man, don't you dare believe whatthat Bible says.
That Bible's antiquated. Don't you know that I had a guy
tell me that here while back. I said he goes, Don't you know
that they know more now? Man's figured it all out.
Oh, they have. Man knows more than God now.
I'm glad you let me in on that little secret 'cause I don't.

(26:41):
I didn't. I didn't know it, I didn't
believe it. But I'm so glad you told me
that. That a whole bunch of filthy,
perverted atheists OK God deniers.
I'm so glad they know more than God himself.
I'm glad you told me that. I would have never believed it.

(27:06):
You've got to be kidding me. Take a look around Anyway, so
let's go on here. Let's see, let's see.
Therefore, this is his goal here.
His goal is to gather data whichshows the extensive nature of
God's expansive universe. Non biblical, which shows that

(27:31):
Flat Earth idea is not biblical nor does it match what we can
actually see and measure. Well, again, a liar, a devil,
they can't measure any of this stuff.
They don't know any of it. I've seen it time and time
again. They've got the top scientist
being interviewed. The the ones that are, you know,

(27:53):
the, the ones that are doing allthis stuff, you know, out in
outer space, they say that they're off.
Their numbers are off not by oneor two.
It's off by millions. It says they're off so far that
it's technically it's not even science anymore.
It's just a random guess. And I've got a clip where it
shows the guy talking about how far off they are.

(28:14):
And if you were off on that, on anything else, it would just, it
just be ridiculous. They aren't scientifically
accurately measuring anything. OK, That's what they'll tell you
they are. And then you turn around and
watch one of these astrologer guys on TV say that their
measurements are off by like notnot 10%, not 2% off by like 200

(28:39):
million percent. But then this guy here, he
wants, oh, they're right. So if they tell you this
distance, it's right now. No, it's not.
They're looking up into the firmament, all right, and
they're seeing stuff, so they'reguessing.
They see something and say, well, this one looks bigger, so

(28:59):
it must be closer. This one here looks smaller.
It must be further away. So what I'm going to do is I'm
going to take my logic here on Earth, and I'm going to say, oh,
look, I have two different things here, OK?
One's bigger, one's smaller. You see the cup The cup's
clearly bigger right than the can.

(29:23):
Oh, oh, oh, wait a second. The cans huge.
That can is huge. It's bigger than the cup.
Wait a second, wait a second. Is it?
Ah, it's not it's an illusion. So they'll look at something to
say. Oh, look at that.
It's big. Maybe it's just closer.

(29:47):
Well, you know, we, we can do this with you don't know.
You have no idea. You don't even know what you're
looking at, OK? All you know is what the Bible
has told you. Everything else is man made
nonsense, Nebulas, black holes, all that stuff.
None of us proving. None of us proving.
In fact, you can even talk. Listen to these scientists, OK?

(30:09):
Like Neil deGrasse Tyson. It's, it's all theory.
It's theory. It's not even, you can't even
see it with your own eyes. Well, it's, that's what it is
that we're sure of it. Trust us.
We're the government. Trust us.
There's no God. God didn't create any.
But now this guy, now he, he at least says God created it.

(30:34):
OK, that that's about, that's about all you're going to get
out of him. Everything else.
Yeah, he's a lie. So anyway, so you know, for a
guy, 'cause he goes on in here to say, you know, let's see.

(30:56):
Let's say he says I have dear friends who are believers in
Jesus. Good.
Maybe you should listen to him and that salvation can only be
found through him. Now that's a true statement.
OK, so at least he's not lying to you about your salvation.
OK, they have come yet. So in other words.

(31:18):
But these guys are stupid because they believe in their
Bible, yet they've come to believe that the Bible does
indeed teach a Flat Earth. That's because it does.
We should try reading it. You should try reading
something. Why don't you try reading this
where it shows you every verse in the Bible that proves Flat
Earth. Now, we couldn't do that.

(31:39):
We're too smart for that. We're not going to believe that
Bible no matter what. It's man.
OK, so their motives in promoting Flat Earth are based
on their conviction that this concept is biblical.

(32:01):
You mean a Christian? Actually, their motive is
biblical. They they want to teach you the
truth, what the Bible says. Oh what a bunch of idiots.
What a bunch of insane idiots. They read their Bible and they
believed it. Get out.

(32:26):
You actually believe your Bible?Don't believe your Bible.
Believe NASA. Believe your government.
You believe the government of North Korea?
OK, That's what you believe. You believe we came from a
monkey. You're nobody.

(32:46):
God didn't create you. Oh, wait a second, I'm going to
let you have that. God created you, but you can't
believe anything else. Anything else the Bible tells
you, throw it out. OK 'cause hey, you might get a
little too radical if you actually believe what the Bible

(33:07):
teaches and then claim you're a Christian.
Wow. So anyway, let's see, he says
they believe that Satan has deceived humanity in believing
that the earth is a globe. They have.
That's true. That's a true statement that
they're correct. You're the fool before not
believing it. OK.

(33:28):
It is a satanic agenda that's been in the since the beginning.
And in case this this clown heredoesn't understand, Satan does
everything opposite God says in the Bible that is flat.
So he says, no, it's round. God says that it's non, it's
stationary. No, it's not.
It's moving. God says the moon and the stars

(33:50):
go around like this in the firmament.
No, they don't. The earth goes around them in
outer space. Everything God says, Satan says
opposite. The Bible says in God's Word
that on the other side of the firmament is water.
Not outer space, not a vacuum, water.
It's called the great deep. God's throne sets upon many

(34:13):
waters like glass. Hey, throw all that out.
That's not what it means. What he meant to say is outer
space. OK, maybe he's out there
floating around Mars. You know, the rocket ships on
Mars. We're all going to get to Mars.

(34:34):
We've got helicopters floating around on Mars right now, flying
around. Oh, they're flying around in
Mars. They got a helicopter up there.
Now there's no air. There's no atmosphere that a
helicopter can fly. Now, they can't hear in the real
world, but in NASA's, you know, CGI world, Oh, absolutely.

(34:55):
We can fly helicopters, remote control, remote control, flying
helicopter remote control on Mars, you know, and we can take
pictures of Mars. Now, don't compare those two
pictures here on Earth, like over there on Devon Island,
where all, for some reason, the exact same pictures show up on

(35:19):
Devon Island, just a different color right here on Earth.
Hey, they're not lying to you, don't you?
But don't you dare believe God'sword.
You believe, man, OK. And not only that, you believe
the man that's the biggest liar.You pick the biggest corrupt,

(35:41):
most corrupt thing you can find,and that's the one you believe.
Don't you dare believe that Bible.
Don't you dare believe it. OK?
So he goes on, you know, he, he tries to throw a he tries to
throw something in here to make it sound like, you know, he's
not a NASA fanboy, which he is. OK.

(36:03):
I have no desire to fight with, speak evil of, nor be
condescending to my fellow believers.
Well, you're the one that's wrong, so maybe you ought to
take that into account. You don't believe your Bible.
So, you know, speak evil. Evil of.
I mean, hey, is it evil that you're a liar?
I mean, you're pushing the globein this magazine hard.

(36:26):
You don't have a stitch of proof.
Nothing. 0 All you have is what NASA told you.
Of course, you look up and you say, well, I see this stuff in
the sky that doesn't have anything to do with the Earth,
honey, OK. I don't care what you see in the
air. I don't see what you what you
care what? I care what you see in the
firmament. That doesn't have anything to do

(36:47):
with what you're right here. Right here on Earth.
Water doesn't bend. It always finds its level.
That's a fact, Jack, and you can't prove it.
Prove it, show me. You know, there are documents
out there from building canals and everything like the Suez

(37:08):
Canal. That thing is like 100 miles
long and it's perfectly level. Perfectly.
They even have where the government has written in there.
You will not use, you will not try to compensate for this
so-called curvature of the earth.
Do you know why you can't do that?
Because then you won't have anything level.
You would literally be digging ahole.

(37:31):
It doesn't work. OK.
That's why all the papers with with NASA, different NASA stuff,
all kinds of aeronautical papers.
And I've I've got copies of them.
Everything is tested with a non rotating Flat Earth.
They specify that in almost all their tests.
And then you have some guy come.Well, that's just because it's

(37:53):
easier. Do you know how stupid you sound
right now? You mean to tell me you're
developing a helicopter that's supposedly flying around on a
spinning water ball? And you're so smart, you and
NASA. I mean, you're the smartest
people on earth in your own mind.

(38:15):
And you have to use a flat, non rotating earth calculation to
get your helicopter to fly. You can't use the spinning
globe. Well, it's easier.
Why would you want it to be easier?
You would want it to be correct,not easier.

(38:36):
How would you design something to fly on a flat non rotating
level earth that's actually flying on a spinning water ball
in outer space? Why?
How would it work? OK, I'm going to design my
submarine to be used on in the grass in a grassy field.

(39:02):
That's how I'm going to design it.
It's like, are you going to be using it in the grassy field?
Oh, well, no, I'm going to be using it in the depth of the
ocean. Don't you think you maybe you
should design it for that, for the pressures of water, not
setting in a grassy field somewhere?
Well, I never thought of that. But see, it's hard to design A

(39:23):
submarine, you know, for use in the water.
There's too many variables. So let's design it as if it was
being used on dry land, in the field, in a grassy field.
Do you think it's going to work in the water then?
Probably not. You see the logic in that.
So all these different government agencies are
designing rockets, helicopters, airplanes, all kinds of stuff in

(39:49):
order in order for them to get them to work.
They designed them for a flat, non rotating Earth.
And it's in their documentation,it's in CIA.
You can Google it. It's all over.
I'll say, well, that's just because it's easier now.
Now if you want to design something to work like, like

(40:10):
supposedly this helicopter on Mars.
It looks just like a helicopter here on Earth, a remote control
helicopter. You know, it has the little, you
know, the rotors, which are wings like an airplane, they're
designed with a, a curve on the top because as the IT goes

(40:33):
through the air, the air on the top goes faster than the air on
the bottom, which decreases pressure, supposedly a pressure
decrease. Now you have a low pressure and
a high pressure. High pressure always seeks low
pressure according to physics. And so what's in between?
Well, there's a blade in between.
So of course, the low pressure up here, high pressure always

(40:54):
seeks low pressure. So the high pressure goes up and
pushes it up. That's theory of flight.
That's a theory of lift on an airplane.
So now we're building a helicopter's wing that looks the
same thing, a rotor, and it's flying on a planet that there is
no atmosphere, then there is no pressure.

(41:14):
There's no pressure difference. So how are we making it fly?
You designed it here on Earth, OK, to fly with a pressure
gradient, but you're putting it somewhere where there is no
pressure, but it's somehow it's still working.
What? It's a joke anyway.

(41:36):
Yeah, he, he goes on, you know, and talks about love and all
that stuff, you know, and Jesus is the Lord and Savior now.
You got that right. Jesus is our Lord and Savior,
you know, but I've got page after page after page of this
guy going over this stuff, you know?
Let's see. Too often Flat Earth proponents

(41:57):
spend most of their time being critical of pictures and
organizations and their opponents without actually
producing their own data or research.
Really. Well, there is a lot of data and
research out there that the curve is fake.
There's people out there with Nikon cameras, OK, filming Nikon
P900, Nikon P-1000, proving thatthere is no curvature.

(42:21):
It's fake. But this guy says it's real.
But you can prove it. And there's probably thousands
of videos out there where peoplejust like you and me can go by
the camera and set out there andfilm things hundreds of miles
away. That should be on the other side
of the earth, Hey, But we don't do our own research.
Now. You're a liar.

(42:42):
You're the deceived, or you're aliar.
I don't know which one. Maybe a devil, not sure.
So you know, and but we're beingcritical of pictures and
organizations. Can you, Matt?
This guy's the biggest NASA fanboy I've ever heard.

(43:02):
Don't be critical of anything. Believe everything the
government says. Don't have any discernment.
Believe everything the government says.
So if I show you a picture of this hanging on some wires, OK,
And you can see the wires, and Itell you this is a spaceship in

(43:22):
outer space with a fake background.
Don't you dare be critical of the fact this is clearly a fake.
You can see the wires. You can tell it's fake.
Don't you dare be critical of that.
Don't you dare be critical of NASA.
You believe everything they say.You believe it.

(43:44):
How dare you not believe it? How dare you look at NASA's live
footage that they produced whereyou see the the satellite going
up and you can see the string pulling it up.
How dare you be critical of that?
Believe it. Or the one where you can see the
guy in the background ducked down behind the satellite going

(44:07):
up on a string. It's a model on a soundstage
with a fake background. How dare you?
How dare you be critical of these pictures and of
organizations. If the government puts together
an organization and they call itNASA and they tell you came from

(44:28):
a monkey, don't you dare. Don't you dare criticize it.
Yeah, that's some good advice init.
Maybe, maybe we should take the advice of Elon Musk, the faker.
It looks. That means it's real.
If it's real, it looks fake. So I'm going to show you the
fakest image I can find, and you'd better believe it.

(44:51):
OK, it's fake, but it has to be,you know, it has to be fake.
But I mean, it looks fake, but it's real because because it's
so fake. Believe it.
The realer it is, the faker it looks.
Yeah, yeah. OK, let's see.

(45:17):
He goes on to say that these people that have degrees in
physical sciences and all this other stuff, blah, blah, blah,
they're just simply too many proofs and evidences of a
spherical Earth to entertain a Flat Earth.
Really. Again, you get your information
from NASA. You're getting information from
atheists who want you to believethere's no God.

(45:39):
Hey, but if you want to believe everything they say, do it.
I don't. I have a little more discernment
than that. OK?
These same people that are telling you that you're on a
spinning globe, they're also telling you that you better go
out and get medicine for diseaseyou don't have and you better do

(45:59):
it now. And they're also telling you to
do everything Hollywood does, aren't they?
Come to find out the same peopleare getting in the news today
because they're all pedophiles. Devil worspers, pedophiles, OK,

(46:19):
same people. Now they're telling you there's
more than two genders. There's not just male and
female. There's probably hundreds by
now. They're also telling you that,
you know, you can be whatever you want to be.
These are the same people who are telling you to take a child,
a baby three years old. And you know, if it's a boy born

(46:43):
a boy physically, which is science, right?
Biology one O 1 here and he picks up a baby doll because
he's a baby. He's a baby himself.
He picks up a baby doll. You better go take him in and
have his genitals chopped off. OK, Go, go have his penis cut

(47:04):
off and then start giving him female hormones because he's
really a girl. He's a child, a baby who picked
up a doll or whatever. And so let's, let's butcher
their body. And then later on in life when
they realize what's happened, they'll probably kill
themselves. So let's, let's promote

(47:26):
transgenderism and then watch these kids suffer their entire
lives after they've made or somebody else has made a really
bad decision for them, and then they kill themselves.
Same people, same ones promotingthe globe.
Same ones promoting NASA, Same ones promoting the whole 9 yards

(47:50):
transgender, the whole 9 yards. Same ones.
But let's not believe what the Bible says.
Let's believe what they say. You know, let's, let's make fun
of and cut down everybody who has questions because what the
government says doesn't line up.And let's get our name.
Of course we're in a magazine. That means we're important,

(48:12):
right? That means we're telling the
truth. We're in a magazine you have to
pay for. So it must be the truth must be
OK Oh, he goes on to say, you know, he's of course, you know,
he's been taking the camera out and he's been looking at the
stars, wonderful. You're looking at God's

(48:34):
creation, wonderful. You know what he found?
This is amazing right here. He found that this is a
consistent basis of photographing God's wonders.
At least he at least he gave Godtheir credit for it, right?
I mean, he's using NASA's systemof Big Bang accident, but he's
calling it God's wonder. Whatever.

(48:59):
Yeah, so let's see. And the predictability of the
motions of the stars, planets, moon and sun simply cannot match
a Flat Earth model. Guy's an idiot.
The guy must be a blooming idiot.
He'd have to be. The predictability of these
motions proves a Flat Earth. But he says the opposite.

(49:24):
Did you know they have in for centuries they have had the I'm
trying to think of the name of it.
The astrolabe literally has the moon and the stars, all that
stuff on it. And you can twist it in a
circle, by the way, it's flat and it's a circle.
It shows you every single it'll show you the moon phases,

(49:44):
everything from since the beginning till the end.
It never changes. They can predict it down to the
second practically based off of these astronomical stuff.
OK, it's flat, it's going in a circle and it's very
predictable. Except for the North Star.

(50:08):
It it's always in the same place, never moves.
It's the center. Everything moves around it.
The Georgia Guidestones proved it.
You know, we had a bunch of stuff about population, but had
a hole cut in it and you could get down and look through that
hole and always see the North Star.
Always from now on, since the beginning.
It never moves. Everything goes around it.

(50:29):
Of course they figured that out and they blew those dudes up,
didn't they? They don't want anybody knowing
that kind of stuff. This guy doesn't want anybody to
know. He never mentioned that in this
article. He never mentioned it one time.
You know why? Because it proves Flat Earth, it
proves that it is moving in a circle.

(50:51):
We're not moving. You see, here's what a lot of
people don't understand. You look at a star, and even the
pyramids are aligned with these different stars, and they come
back in alignment all the time, and they're always the same.
I think the pyramids are alignedwith Sirius, as they call it.

(51:13):
They're always the same. They're never changing.
OK, God said he why he put them there and they're there and they
never change. So Can you imagine you're on.
Well, let me let me grab this for you.
Let me show you something here real quick.
Here we go. I've got a globe right here.

(51:37):
This is not because I believe inthe globe.
By the way, you see this right here how it's spinning.
They teach you, OK, they're teaching you that this is
spinning like this at 1000 milesan hour.
Look at this picture. This, this is not it.

(51:57):
This is not 1000 miles an hour. This is probably only 10 or 15
miles an hour. OK, 1000 miles.
This is what they claim is happening right now, and you
can't feel it. You don't even know it.
Look, you're doing this, but when you look up in the sky, the
stars never change. They're not spinning.

(52:17):
Keep that in mind. You're the one spinning on this
globe, not the stars. But yet you can look up and see
them like he says. He even says it.
You look it up and they're predictable.
You can see them over and over and over.
They're always in the same place.
Exactly how is that possible? When you're on a spinning

(52:37):
bottle, you're spinning like that, 1000 miles an hour.
Not only that, the whole globe is supposedly going around the
sun at 66,600 miles an hour. What?
But you can see the same star inthe same place every night.
You can see the North Star 24 hours a day or whatever.

(53:00):
It never moved. It's always there.
And that proves you're on a globe now.
It proves you're on a flat plane.
It proves exactly I'll re situated here.
It proves exactly what the Biblesays.
But again, non Bible believer, you know, we've we've got us a
nice little glossy magazine here, but we're not Bible

(53:21):
believers, OK? We're out to sell magazines and
we knew this right here is the earth.
You see that? You see this cover?
They knew they'd sell a magazineright there.
That's why they did it, OK? They, they don't want to know

(53:43):
the truth. Anyway, He goes on, I'm going to
wrap this thing up here. But you know, he goes on to say
Christians who do scientific research.
I say, OK, this is our, this is a question.
Are there believing Christians who do scientific research and
work for NASA? Of course, of course they do.

(54:06):
These are solid, solid Christians, OK, who are trained
scientists and researchers who are using their interest in
calling to and they're calling to explore God's creation.
Are all people who work for NASAdeceiving liars?
Certainly not. OK Now, at the same time, he,

(54:29):
this is his words. At the same time, we recognize
that NASA does not promote A biblical worldview that boldly
acknowledges God as a creator. Boldly they don't acknowledge
anything about God as a creator.What do you mean boldly?
You see, you put that word in there and say, well, they they

(54:50):
don't, they don't advertise it boldly.
You know what Christian do you know of advertises Jesus Christ
boldly? Very few.
OK, if you if you talk about having a shirt that says Jesus
or showing up to a church for a Sunday meeting for an hour and

(55:12):
drinking coffees and lattes, is that boldly doing something for
Jesus? I say not so he says, oh,
they're not. You know, NASA doesn't promote A
biblical worldview that boldly acknowledges God.
You see the double talk devil you don't know.

(55:36):
They don't boldly do that because they don't do it at all.
In fact, it was on the news, it's been on X, that they banned
the word Jesus at NASA. You're not allowed to say it.
You can get fired. You cannot say the name Jesus
Christ. If you do get out, they're

(55:57):
devils. So now you're going to sit here
and tell me that we've got very strong, good Christians working
at NASA, promoting what NASA promotes, promoting the globe,
promoting evolution, promoting more than two sexes.
You're not allowed to say the word Jesus Christ.

(56:18):
But see, he, he won't, he won't tell you that on there, will he?
He just says, well, they're not boldly promoting.
They're not promoting God at all.
They're against God. They're atheists.
They don't believe in God. They believe in The Big Bang.
So don't, don't do your double talk.
Go ahead and put it like it is. NASA has banned Jesus Christ,
and that's been on the news. OK?

(56:42):
NASA's logo is a serpent's tongue.
OK? All of NASA's programs are named
after Pagan gods, OK? Everything they do is Pagan.
All their numbers are satanic. So don't sit here and tell me
there are good Christians working at NASA trying to teach

(57:04):
you something about what, how the Earth, you know, the
curvature of the Earth, you know, out of whatever is 66.6666
and how we've got the tilt of the Earth and you know, it's on
24.3 or 2423.4, so the remainderis 66.6.

(57:25):
And how we're traveling around the sun is 66,600 miles an hour.
And how I've got a piece of paper here.
Everything is 666 in it. Imagine that everything has got
the number of man, 666, the number of the beast.
But let's sit here and prop themup.

(57:47):
Your NASA fanboy. Yeah, yeah.
Hey, another interesting commentis repeated constantly, fanboy.
You're a NASA fanboy. You know, somebody says it's
repeated constantly. This NASA has admitted they use

(58:08):
computers or enhanced astronomical images, therefore
they're all fake. Yes, NASA has admitted that they
use CGI. And like the guy who came up
with the Globe deal, he says, well, yeah, we use CGI because
we have to, because there are noactual photographs.
There's never been any taken. They're using data from supposed

(58:33):
other stuff. And he said, I put it together
in something people are expecting to see.
Do you know why they're expecting?
Do you know why they're expecting to see?
This is because this is what's taught at school.
This is what's on every Hollywood, Hollywood movie made.
You can go start watching moviesand you'll see one of these

(58:53):
sitting in the background just about everywhere.
That's why that's why people expect to see that is because
that's what they're taught. It's called propaganda.
So he comes up with an image called the Blue Marble and they,
they, they act as if it's fact. You go look at at NASA's Blue
Marble images over the years. They're all completely

(59:15):
different. They're all completely
different. They're fake.
They're CGI. Show me something real.
Really. Of course, this guy goes on
about the Hubble telescope, and really, you believe there's a
telescope up there taking these pictures in outer space?
Really. Where is it?
Show it to me. Have you got a picture of it in

(59:36):
space? Of course you don't.
There are no pictures of any satellites in outer space.
Imagine that. But they're there.
Why? Because NASA says so.
OK, turn it around and take a picture of the people in
Australia upside down right now.Show me a ship sailing upside

(59:57):
down. Show me a ship selling on the
side in relation to me right nowwith your soak.
You can't do it. You won't do it.
It's never been. You want to know why?
Because it doesn't exist. Anyway, I could go on and on and
on. This guy's got, you know, all
kinds of stuff that I highlighted, but here we're

(01:00:18):
already in an hour but. You know, maybe I'll do a Part 2
to this thing because this guy goes on and on.
The thing is, is this guy that sent me these magazines, this
thing here, you know, he's got here Flat Earth letters, which
I'm going to check out. He's he's got all kinds of stuff
on this. These guys right here, you know,

(01:00:41):
they want to sell those magazines.
So they've got Flat Earth on there.
Why? Because people are interested in
it, not because they want to be deceived.
They want to know the truth. They already know the
government's not telling them the truth.
OK? That's, I mean, it doesn't take
much discernment to figure that out.

(01:01:01):
OK, get on X, get on the news. OK, You, you think the
government's telling you the truth, They're coming out now
saying, you know, that that Biden possibly was executed in
2020. Now Trump is saying it.
Now they're saying all that stuff was signed, was done by an
auto pen. He wasn't even around.
And the thing they've got standing up there, any fool can

(01:01:24):
see that's not the same man. OK, But I guess this guy's going
to say that too. I, I guarantee if you were to
ask this guy this, oh, Biden's real, how dare you say that's a
clone or a mask. Are you out of your mind?
You believe what the government says.
OK, If they put some puppet up there that clearly is not the

(01:01:44):
same man, how dare you go buy pictures?
Don't. Don't you question pictures and
organizations. You believe everything they say.
But don't you dare believe that Bible.
OK, we're supposedly Bible believers.
But don't you dare believe what that Bible says.

(01:02:06):
You need to believe what NASA says.
You need to leave what the government says.
I don't. I don't buy it, OK?
I think it's a joke. So anyway, I hope you enjoyed
this podcast. If you want, hey, leave a
comment. If you want to hear more about
this right here, you know, leaveme some comment.
If you think if you think I'm dead wrong, let me know.

(01:02:28):
I'm not going to be mad about it.
If you think I'm right, let me know.
We got comments on Spotify. Leave me a comment, send me an
e-mail, whatever. I can see the comments let me
know, but I just thought it was funny because, you know, I've
got people to send me this stuffand you know, I've got a
subscription to this now as a gift and I appreciate that.

(01:02:51):
And you know, they, it, it just amazes me how hard these
so-called Christian people, supposedly Bible believers, they
push hard to go against what that Bible says.
They don't like it. Why?
Why do you not just believe whatit says?

(01:03:12):
Because you saw something on a Hollywood movie?
Seriously. But it doesn't matter.
It's it's their, their mind is so brainwashed.
It doesn't matter what they say.It's like the guy from NASA,
Werner Werner Braun, Werner von Braun himself supposedly on his
deathbed said it's not true, it's all fake.

(01:03:36):
And he, and you know what else he said?
He said the last thing they're going to do is it's going to be
from space. They're going to claim there's
an attack from space. So we've got to fight off aliens
and it's all a lie. It's all fake.
He said that on his deathbed. And then he had, you know, a
somebody who supposedly wasn't aChristian, you know, has Psalm
19 put on there talking about the firmament.

(01:03:58):
But according to this guy over here, we don't know what the
firmament is. It's described in Joe.
But hey, you're too dumb to understand the Bible, and even
if you do understand the Bible or the Bible's wrong, you can't
take it literally. Hey, leave me a comment.
Let me know what you think. Thanks for listening.

(01:04:20):
Yeah, until we meet again, if you want to hear some more, let
me know. It's flatbro.com,
kennywilliamson.com. Check them out.
Let me know what you think untilwe meet again.
God bless you.
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