June 30, 2025 • 44 mins
In this episode, I answer an email from a listener on Annihilationism, which is the belief that once you die, you don't go to hell as an unsaved sinner, but instead just are destroyed with no pain or no repercussions for your sins in your lifetime. This is not Biblical doctrine, but rather lies taught by false teachers.
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Hello and welcome back to another episode of Mckills Death
Chronicles. As you know, my name is Kenny
Williamson and I am the host of said show.
So welcome back. As I like to say, welcome back,
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welcome back, welcome back, welcome back.
In case you don't know what showthat's off of, it's an old one.
Anyway, so we are back again. I've got one of my new shirts on
that I got from Conspiracy MusicGuru if you want to check that
guy out. And I play some of his songs
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once in a while and you can clearly see that it says hoax.
And we've got the space station,we've got the globe, we got the
moon Lander, and we've got satellites there.
Pretty neat. I believe that all that is a
hoax, by the way. So what we're going to talk
about today is I have recently been receiving, you know, lots
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of letters, communications from listeners and lots of people
have questions. And this guy here, he sent me
one and I've got it. I think he calls himself the KGB
guy. I think it's it's on his e-mail,
but he is he's wanting to talk about what's called
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annihilationism, if you have never heard of that.
So I'm going to go over what that is real quick.
But yeah, so we'll get right into it.
He sent me a letter or an e-mailand it says, hey, brother, hope
you're doing well. I was wondering if I could ask
you a question. I'm dealing with the subject of
annihilationism. OK.
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And I was wondering if you couldmake a video.
Here it is. Here's the video dealing with
this false teaching. I believe the Bible teaches
eternal consciousness torment. However, this teaching of
annihilationism is often taught by 7th day Adventists and
Jehovah Witnesses. And it is.
It says that it's now getting gaining traction in the
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evangelical evangelical circles.And even worse, some Bible
believers are starting to teach this now.
And they will say things like, you know, talk about Revelation
14 and Revelation 20 that don't apply to people, just applies to
the devil and the satanic Trinity and only people who take
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the mark of the beast anyway. And they go on and on.
And it says basically they're arguing that the first death is
your body, the second death is your soul.
And yeah, so that's basically that's what that is in
Christianity. The annihilationism is a belief
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that after the last judgment, soyou've got your White Throne
judgment, all damned humans and fallen angels, including Satan,
will be totally destroyed and their consciousness
extinguished. So what what we're trying to do
here is what these people are trying to do, OK, Is there
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trying to teach that you die andyou go to hell, OK, And you're
going to be in hell for. Well, obviously you don't get
resurrected. And I say resurrected.
I don't mean resurrected into some perfect body.
You don't get resurrected out ofhell until the White Throne
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Judgment, which is after the thousand year millennial reign
of Jesus Christ. So let's hypothetically pretend
that the Jacob's trouble or otherwise known by some people
as tribulation, the seven years of tribulation.
Let's say that happened right now and you're already dead.
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So you would be in hell for those seven years.
And then when Christ returns andstarts his millennial reign and
puts and puts heaven, heaven puts the devil in hell, you
would still be in hell for that thousand years.
And then once the 1000 years is up, Christ allows the devil to
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be taken out of hell and do someshenanigans for a short time.
We don't know how long that timeis.
I don't know if that's 100 years, 200 years, I don't know.
It doesn't. It doesn't, it doesn't specify,
but it's called Satan's little season.
So he's a let out for a little season.
You will still be in hell for that time.
And then when he decides Satan'slittle season's over and you
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know, he decides to do the WhiteThrone judgement after that.
So if you died today and went tohell and the seven-year
tribulation started next week, you would be dead in hell for at
least 1007 years, right? So if you died 300 years ago,
you know, and you're in hell, you got 300 years plus the seven
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years plus the thousand years. So that's kind of how that
works. Well, the Bible says after we're
at this white throne judgement scene, you get to come up before
God and the books are opened andyou get to judge you be you're
judged on your works. See, you're judged on your works
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because you never accepted the blood of Jesus Christ.
So now you have to go by your own merit, OK, which obviously
sucks or you wouldn't want to hell to begin with, right?
So you're going by your own merit, and you have to pay for
your sin now. And all your sins are recorded
in these books. So they're going to open the
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Lamb's Book of Life, which is the book that tells you whether
or not you were saved, whether or not you accepted Jesus Christ
as your personal Savior. Obviously your name is not in
that book or you would have never went to hell to begin
with. You see what I'm saying?
But there's always going to be those people, you know, the
people they're going to say, well, hey, hey, wait a second.
I was a pretty good old boy. I never, I never, I never really
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did anything wrong, but I went straight to hell.
I never got, I never got a trial.
I never got a trial. So I think I'm innocent.
So they get to come up before the White Throne judgement.
This is like a a hearing in a court.
And you get to present your caseof, you know, how good of a guy
you were. And then the books are opened
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and it shows how crappy of a guyyou were because that's what we
all are. We're all sinners.
And obviously it says at that point you're thrown into the
lake of fire. So is the devil, so is his
angels. OK, so let's see.
So he he mentioned in his letterhere Revelation 1411.
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So anyway, so just just to get that out of the way, that's
that's kind of how that whole system works.
So in Revelation 14, verse 11, it says in the smoke of the
torment ascendeth up forever andever.
OK, and they have no rest day ornight who worship the the beast
and his image and whoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Now that particular statement right there is referring to
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people who take the mark of the beast during the seven years of
Jacob's trouble or seven-year tribulation, whatever you want
to call it. King James Bible refers to it
seven years of Jacob's trouble, which is Israel's trouble.
OK, So he's saying that people are saying, well, that only
applies to these guys here. Now, OK, this right here is just
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letting you know that if you're alive during that seven years
and and you claim to be a Christian or whatever, you
didn't get raptured out, but here you are and you go ahead
and take that mark. Once you take that mark, you're
non redeemable. You can't be saved after that.
OK, so whoever takes that mark is going to hell just to let you
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know that. So then we go on to Revelation
2010 and it says, and the devil that deceived them was cast into
the lake of fire, OK, and brimstone, where the beast and
the false prophet are, because they'd already got thrown in
there. And she'll be tormented again
day and night, forever and ever.Now, I don't know if you see the
theme here. When you get into that lake of
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fire, it says that you are tormented forever.
OK, so that goes against the annihilation deal that says, oh,
you're just dead and you don't feel a thing.
OK, That's not that's not what the Bible says.
OK, So then we get to our White Throne judgment here, which is
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Revelation 20, verse 11. And this is what we're talking
about here. And it says, you know, and I saw
the great White Throne and him that said on it from whose face
the earth and heaven fled away, and there was found no place for
them. So here we are up in the water.
I guess used to it was taught there sitting around in outer
space. But God's throne is is on the
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water. So I'm sure they're in the
water. Says when I saw the dead small
and great, these are people who had died and went to hell.
OK, I saw the dead small and great stand before God.
And the books were opened, and another book was opened in this,
which is the book of life. And the dead were judged out of
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those things which were written in the books according to the
works. So now, yes, these people died
and their bodies died, but theirsouls went to hell.
Their bodies didn't go to hell. Now these people are standing
here again, and they're referredto as the dead people who had
died. And I guess they're referred to
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the dead like that because they didn't get resurrected into new
bodies to go into heaven. You know, they didn't get
raptured. They didn't get resurrected in
the rapture. So they're considered dead
because they're in hell. If you went to heaven, you're
not considered dead. So these people are dead and
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they just came up out of hell and they're getting judged.
OK. And it says in the sea gave up
the dead which were in it, and death and hell delivered up the
dead, which were in them. So obviously the people that are
in hell are considered dead, OK,because they're not in a they're
not in a new body. So they're dead, OK.
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And they were judged every man according to the works.
Well, let me know how that worksout for you, OK.
As soon as you stand up there inthe books open and it starts
going down your sins, you're cooked, OK?
You are going into that lake of fire.
You're going right out of the fryer pan, right into the fire,
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OK? You ain't getting away with
nothing. It's been written down.
If you don't think you're being watched by watchers and angels
and everything else, you're fooling yourself, OK?
God knows every single move you've ever made, and it doesn't
matter if the light switch was turned off or not, OK?
You're you're caught, you're going to stand up there and
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you're going to you're going to say hey, hey, hey, and they're
going to open up those books andthey're going to all the sins
you've committed and you're going to look like a fool
because you are a fool. OK?
You rejected the free gift of salvation.
So you're full and you're hell bound.
You just came out of hell and you're fixing to go right back
into some probably even worse. So Revelation 2014 and death and
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hell were cast into the lake of fire.
This is the second death. Now some people get hung up on
that saying we'll see. That's different because the
first death was your body. We are not concerned with your
body here. We're concerned with your soul.
OK, your body goes to the grave.Your soul is what's going to
hell. Your soul is either going to go
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to heaven or to hell. Now, eventually, if your soul is
in heaven, it says that God willresurrect your body.
But it's made into a perfect body.
It's not the same body like whatwe have now, because these are
old, sinful, fleshly bodies. Flesh and bone.
Bodies like this are not in heaven.
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OK, they may have something, butthey're a perfect some kind of
body. They're not like our bodies, you
know, like Jesus Christ body after he came back down from
heaven and talked to all his guys, you know, he can literally
walk through walls and appear inbuildings, appear, disappear.
We can't do that. So that is obviously something
different than what we have now.OK, So either way, so these
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people were in hell, they're considered dead.
They're goners, they're down there.
And now hell is going to be thrown into the lake of fire.
But it says the lake of fire is torment forever and ever, OK.
And so we go on to 15, verse 15.And who, whosoever was not found
written in the book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
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OK, now, Revelation 2118, talking about people who were
probably alive during this tribulation period, fearful,
unbelieving, abominable murderers, whoremongers,
sorcerers and idolaters and all liars shall have their part in
the lake of fire, which burneth with fire and brimstone, which
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is the second death. So you know, you were
resurrected or brought up out ofhell.
You're considered dead. And you, you've got a little
reprieve there because you're probably waiting in line to get
your judgement and then like, oh, you're still guilty.
So they throw you into the lake of fire.
So that would be your second time.
That's the second time you're dead.
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I mean, that's that's more or less what it's saying here.
OK, in math, in the course, we can go back to Matthew 2541.
This is 1 here it says, Then shall he say unto them on the
left hand. Of course, it's talking about
the goat, the sheep and the goatjudgement.
He separates them, ones on the left, ones on the right.
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The the ones that didn't accept Jesus are on the left, the ones
that did on the right for example.
And he says, then, then, then shall he say unto them, on the
left hand, Depart from me ye cursed into guess what,
everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
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So hell was originally prepared for the devil and his angels.
OK, And then they get thrown into the lake of fire
everlasting, it says, So there you go, that here, here's the,
you know, you're getting cast ineverlasting.
There's no reason to say that it's not everlasting.
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OK. And then Matthew 2546 says, And
these shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the
righteous in into life eternal. So what's saying here is your
soul is eternal. It's either going to eternally
be in heaven or it's going to eternally be in hell.
OK, So like like this guy said, you know, you've got preachers
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teaching this stuff. And what I wanted to do is I
thought it was really interesting because, you know,
I've, I'm fairly learned on the subject and I, I can say I can,
I can experience or have experienced a lot of that stuff
because my father was a Jehovah's Witness, OK.
And in talking with him, he, that's what he believed.
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He believed there is no hell that when you die, you go to the
grave and it's like you're asleep.
It's like you took a nap. And eventually you're going to
wake up to the White Throne judgement.
You'll just wake up and you're there.
And then you get to state your case to God.
And my dad honestly believed that he could slick talk God
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into allowing him going to heaven.
That was his second chance. See, he could commit any sin or
do anything he wanted now because when he died, he just
went to sleep. And then when he woke up, he
woke up to the White Throne judgement where he could say,
oh, no, wait a second, God, you know, I was born poor and I was
this and I was that. Oh, OK, well, let's just let you
slide right on through then. So he literally thought he was
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going to get a second chance at the White Throne judgment.
He didn't. He didn't have to do anything
with Jesus Christ. He didn't have to do that.
He didn't have to do anything, OK?
He could literally live like thedevil, reject Jesus Christ, OK,
Which is what Jehovah's Witnesses have done.
You know, they, they consider Jesus Christ Lucifer's brother,
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OK. And you know, that's what they
do in their new world, their NewWorld Translation Bible is
they've retranslated a bunch of stuff to fit their little
narrative that Jesus Christ is not the only begotten son of
God. He is an, an A God.
He's an additional God and he can just do whatever he wants,
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kind of like Lucifer. That's that's what they say.
So they're way out there. But anyway, so a lot of the
stuff that I have studied over the years is from Peter Ruckman,
who is dead of course. And I have a bunch of his books
up there. They're over there, all of his
Bible studies. And if a person really wants to
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get down to the nitty gritty andlearn the truth, let's say about
Revelation, this is his book right here, The Revelation of
Jesus Christ, written by Peter Ruckman.
And I have read this book multiple times and I have all
kinds of stuff highlighted in here.
But what I did is I went throughand found exactly what the KGB
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guy here is talking about. And Peter Ruckman already wrote
about it, you know, and he's waysmarter guy than I'll ever be.
And he's just tells you like it is in this book.
So I thought that I would just basically read these couple of
passages here that I have highlighted to help you
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understand what another big timeguy thought about this same
thing. And he tells you why.
He tells you exactly why you thequestion you're asking about
this, this is the answer. Let me read it to you, OK?
Now this is referring to Revelation 1411, you know, And
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it says in the smoke of their torment ascended up forever and
ever, OK? And they have no rest day or
night who worship the beast in his image and whoever received
with the mark of his name. OK.
Peter Ruckman said this is one of the clearest passages in the
New Testament on the eternal punishment of the lost in hell.
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It goes without saying that the majority of people in America do
not believe in a literal hell. And that's what these people are
doing here that he's talking about.
And this is for a very good reason, because they're going
there, OK? They're going there.
That's why they don't want to believe it.
The fact that preachers have quit preaching about hell is no
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sign that hell has become air conditioned or renovated or
redecorated. One of the tragedies tragedies
of this age is the fact that thepreaching of hell fire has gone
out of the pulpit. The time has come in America
when even Bible believing preachers are ashamed to preach
about literal everlasting burning in hell.
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They are so afraid of this truthit is, let's see it is
unreasonable, illogical or non intellectual and they think that
they will be branded as hillbillies, fanatics and hate
mongers if they speak of hell. OK.
And so they remain muzzled aboutit.
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This feeling in America is so common today that the statement
on hell has been taken out of the Apostles Creed, OK, where it
says Christ descended into hell.They've removed that.
OK, the 7th date. Now this is this is exactly what
the guy was asking in the in theletter.
So This is why I felt this was so definitely pertaining to it.
OK, so the 7th day Adventist andJehovah's Witnesses have decided
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that you are annihilated insteadof going to hell.
OK, The liberals, communist, Jehovah's Witnesses have all
decided that. And their their motto, he says,
is all is well, there ain't no hell.
So you there is no punishment for anything you've done.
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OK, let's say it says. Yet the grounds for rejecting A
literal hell are not found in the New Testament.
As a famous Greek scholar once said, he was misguided, but he
still knew his Greek. If anybody has quit believing in
a literal burning, everlasting hell, they have not ceased to
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believe on it on the grounds of the Greek New Testament.
I may add that they have not ceased to believe on it on the
grounds of the English New Testament either.
The English New Testament and the Greek New Testament teach a
literal burning, everlasting hell.
That's what the Bible teaches. OK, so let's go on here.
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This is such an unpopular doctrine and such a hated
doctrine and such an uncouth doctrine that the majority of
preachers in America have quit believing that it that it is
Bible doctrine. You will notice that the best
Bibles, and this is in air quotes here, the best Bibles
translated by the conservatives like the Amplified and the ASV
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refused to translate the world the word hell.
OK, they won't even translate the word hell anymore.
In fact, I mentioned that in oneof those Prophecy Seeker
magazines. They won't even mention hell in
there. They call it Hades.
They will not even say the word.Makes you wonder why, huh?
Well, I'm going to tell you why.It tells you why right here.
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OK, it says where they find the word hades in the Greek.
They leave it untranslated and transliterate it into hades,
which is not even a translation.So see Hades is a
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transliteration the new Bibles are afraid to translate.
So they will translate the Greekword uranos into heaven, yet
they will not translate the the Greek word hades into hell.
So what that means is, is in theGreek, it says Hades, and that's
translated into hell, into English.
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But what they do is they claim they're doing a translation, but
they don't translate that word. They leave it.
So they're leaving a Greek word instead of an English word.
They translate all the other Greek words, but they won't
translate the word hades becausethat's the word hell.
So they want you to say Hades. They don't want you to say hell
say because Hades is is lighter Hades is, you know, that's not
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that bad. Hell, that's bad.
But it actually the same word. So that's called a
transliteration when they actually say they're translating
something and then they leave the word in the original and
don't translate it, but they tell you they translated.
I don't understand that. But anyway, so so it says in
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plainer words, you have to be a Greek to go to hell because they
won't translate it out of Greek.OK, but if you're an Englishman,
you get to go to heaven because they will translate the word
heaven, but they won't translatethe word hell.
OK, so according to Peter Ruckman, this shows the true
attitude of the best modern translators towards God's word.
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I may say, without any fear of contradiction at the judgement
seat of Christ, that the best translations on the market today
are translated by men who do nothave enough reverence for the
Bible to put the left eye of a blind mosquito or to put it in
to put in the Yeah. In other words, they're not
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translating it. They don't want you to believe
in hell. OK.
And the reason for that is it says the majority of preachers
no longer preach about hell because they don't believe in
it. And they don't believe in it
because that's where they're headed.
They're headed to hell. OK, When you find a man busy
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renovating and air conditioning hell, you can be assured that
he's about to move in. So when they try to tell you
that Hell's no big deal and it'snot at turn, you know that
they're trying to renovate hell and as he says, they're trying
to air condition it. It's not that bad.
It's not hell. It's Hades.
It's not hell. It's just purgatory.
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But we can get you out of that for a fee, OK?
And don't worry, after that, you'll be annihilated.
You know you're not going to have to see anything after that,
so don't worry about it. Do whatever you want.
Do as thou wilt. You didn't get no real
punishment. Now, that's not what the Bible
teaches, but that's what these clowns teach.
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OK, so but we should examine thepassages in the New Testament
which say that hell is a literalplace burning with a literal
fire that never goes out, and that sinners who burn in it
never burn up, OK? For they have soulish bodies
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instead of physical bodies. Again, it's not your regular
body, it's your soul in there, OK?
And then like this other guy said, you know, some say that
the smoke goes up forever, but that doesn't mean the torment
goes up forever. But the Bible passage actually
says the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever.
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He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone.
So, and then of course, you know, in Revelation 21/8 when he
says one of the questions was, you know, they're they're going
to have their part in the lake of far, but that could be
something different. You know, just because they have
a part in there doesn't mean they're going to be burning.
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It says they shall have their part in the lake with burneth
with fire and brimstone. It does not say that they're
going to burn up in the fire. It says they are going to have
their part in it. The smoke of this lake, which
burns with fire and brimstone goes up forever and ever.
The people in it are tormented forever and ever.
The devil is in it and he's tormented forever and ever.
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OK. The beast and the false prophet
are in it and are tormented forever and ever.
The smoke of their torment goes up day and night, forever and
ever. They have no rest day or night,
forever or ever. It's very clear.
If you believe what you read in the Bible as you read it where
you find it, OK, then then you have to believe it because
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that's what the Bible teaches. But like he says, many people do
not believe that. They don't believe it.
They will not believe it and they cannot believe it for
various reasons. Most of the reasons are summed
up in one word, sin. That's that's the one word.
Peter Ruckman sums it all up. So the reason they're teaching
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this junk is because they're on their way to hell.
They did. They don't want to believe in
hell. They're, they're trying to
sugarcoat everything because I mean, obviously they're on their
way there. They wouldn't they, they
wouldn't be doing what they're doing.
For example, myself, I would tell you the Bible says God's
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words, says that there is a literal hell.
Hell will be cast into a lake offire, which is burning forever
and ever. In your torment, you'll be
tormented in this lake of fire forever and ever.
Now that's what the Bible says. That's not what I made-up.
OK? We can chapter and verse all
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that. That is what the Bible says, OK?
God's Word says that. So, you know, don't get mad at
me if I tell you what the Bible says, OK?
I believe what the Bible says and I believe that, you know, if
you're not saved, you're going to go to hell and you will
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eventually, you know, get your white throne judgement and then
you're going to be cast into thelake of fire because you would
have never went to hell to beginwith had you accepted Jesus
Christ. You see.
So you, you it's not escape. It's not, you're not getting an
escape like my dad thought. He thought, Oh yeah, I'm, I'm
going to, I'm going to get out of that.
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I won't have to mess with any ofit.
And then worst case scenario, oh, if they don't believe my
story, you know, I'll pitch him a big, big spiel here.
If they don't believe it, I'll just go to sleep forever.
It's like I'm going to dream, you know, I won't know anything.
I won't feel anything. So there's nothing to worry
about. And I saw a street preacher
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teaching that to somebody here. I saw a video where this lady,
she's really concerned about going to hell.
And the guys like, oh, you don'tbe concerned about that.
Oh, no. And she's like, well, why not?
Isn't it a literal place that you burn?
Oh, no, no, no, honey, all hell is is absent, mean absence from
God. So you're still alive.
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You're just fine. It's like you're it's like
you're in a little party deal. You know, you're hell.
You're either going to go to heaven or you're going to go to
hell. But hell is not a place of
torment or fire or burning. It's just life without God.
So imagine a bunch of people together living forever in a
place called hell. But you know, I mean, there's no
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fire, there's no burning. Now you won't get to see God
because God's in heaven, but youcould see all your buddies.
And you know, you guys can party, do whatever you want.
I mean, it's your life. Do whatever you want to do.
There's no punishment involved. So if you don't really want to
hang around with God and listen to this junk, you know, and have
to go by all these rules and regulations, then just hell is
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just absence, absence from God. Well, you don't you don't
believe in God anyway, do you? No, well, you're already absent
from him. So, so just go, no big deal.
That's that's what they're teaching these people instead of
saying, you know, the Bible saysthat it is eternal punishment
and damnation, screaming, yelling, burning type stuff,
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torment and you never burn up goes on forever and ever.
Let's see. They don't want to teach that
they they they won't even. And it's just like I just like I
said in the prophecy watchers deal.
OK, you're reading this good magazine here from a PhD, you
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know, in seminary, in cemetery. And they sit there and tell you,
Oh well, you know, Hades, you'reeither going to, when you die,
you're either going to paradise,you're going to go to Hades.
What is another one of these? The reason they don't want to
say anything about hell is because that's where they're
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going. You see, they want, they want to
spruce up hell, just like Peter Uckman says.
They want to air condition hell.They want to make sure it's not
that bad. Don't worry about it.
Just don't even worry about it instead of telling you the
truth. So I hope that this podcast here
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on this particular subject, I hope that it helps somebody and
I hope it helped the guy who sent me the e-mail.
I sure hope it did. So like I was saying, I just
checked real quick. The guy that sent me the emails
named Devin and he goes by the King James, the KGV guy.
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OK? So I hope that helped you, but
it's a very simply answer your question is these people like
Peter Ruckman said, they don't want to teach on this stuff
because they're on their way there.
And, you know, they they host Jeho's Witnesses.
They're so far out there. You know, they had to veer so
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far away from Scripture. They had to come up with their
own Bible, you know, so they rewrote it, called the New World
Translation to fit their little personal belief in their
narratives. And it's nothing what a regular
Bible teaches you. And The funny thing is, like the
King James, I should say, not a regular, the King James Bible,
the Authorized Version. You know, you go back and look
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at these Jehovah's Witnesses. You know, they're getting
everything out of the out of theWatchtower magazine and these
magazines, OK? And you do a little bit of
research and find out who started Jehovah's Witnesses.
I mean, it's a joke these, I mean, they've got these guys
that have bounced around from one thing to another and they
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basically start a cult and it's whatever they believe is is
whatever they teach, not necessarily what the Bible says
or anything like that. And people get bought into this
and the same as same in the 7th day Adventist, same as several
others. You know, they, you know that I
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don't know, it's so far out, youknow, that you could say God
came to me directly and he gave me some, you know, special
scrolls made out of gold. And I'm the only one that can
read them. And I can't even read them
unless I have some special glasses and, you know, some
special spectacles and I've got to use stones and throw stones,
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all kinds of stuff to read this.Nobody else can read it.
And it's a new revelation only Iknow.
Well, the Bible says, you know, the scriptures of no private
interpretation. It's put out there so everybody
can see it. Everybody can read it.
There is no secret. You can read the thing for
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yourself. That way you have no excuse.
OK, If Jesus shows up to some dude in the woods and gives him
some magical glasses that nobodyelse can see or anything, it's
up to him to do it. And, and it completely
contradicts what the Bible says.And now he's got a cult and you
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have to do what he says. I mean, come on, use your head.
I mean, you can do a Google search on these people that
started these little Colts like Jehovah's Witnesses and the
Mormons and the this and the that.
I mean, it's ridiculous. It goes against Scripture.
Get yourself a King James Bible and read it.
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OK? If you have any questions about
this stuff and if you want to know all about the Book of
Revelation and have to understand it better, I
recommend this book, which you can get online and you can get
from, I think it's called the Bible Baptist Bookstore or
something. It's the one that Peter
Ruckman's family, I guess, stillruns.
He used to own it or whatever. You can get it spiral bound like
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this one. You can get it other other ways.
You know, if you got any questions, I mean that this is
really good, but it goes over all that stuff and I don't know.
But anyway, Devin, this, you know, I basically recorded this
to help answer that question. I hope this answered your
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question. And I do believe that people are
teaching it incorrectly. And I believe that they are
there. They don't want, they don't want
to run off the money. That's that's another biggie is
you get these church buildings, OK, and they cost big money and
you get people in there and you know, they start telling you
about the ties. You have to pay 10% of your
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ties, which is not New Testamentby the way, but let's throw it
out there. So you'll pay your money.
So you know, if, if you're, if you're a millionaire or if you
make 500,000 a year and you actually pay your 10% and you're
in there at the church, Well, hey, that's big money.
Now we need that money to pay their salary, This guy's salary,
you know that coffee bar in the back that cost a lot of money.
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The mortgage on this $5,000,000 building.
Well, hey, you know, we got it. We got to have this $5,000,000
building. We we couldn't possibly have
church in something less. So we've got to have that money
coming in Now. It just so happens that these
big time people, a lot of them, not all, a lot of these people
paying these big ties, you know,they're, they're not saved.
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You know, they're out living like the devil.
They probably, some of them got their money from, you know,
nefarious means from probably cheating, stealing, lying,
murdering, who knows what. So they come in here and pay
this big money thinking it's they're like they're going to
pay God off. I'll just give them, you know,
I'll give the church quite a bitof my money and I'm pretty good.
And then but I don't want to hear about any of this stuff.
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And so the preacher starts talking about heaven and hell.
And also, you know, I don't wantto hear that.
So the preachers like, well, look, I can't run these guys off
because this is big money comingin.
So there's no way I can teach on, hell, forget that, OK, I
can't teach on, you know, sodomites, which is the King
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James Version for gay people, gay men, sodomites.
I, I can't treat you on that because I've got, you know, I've
got some, I've got a guy teaching Sunday school in the
back. He's trans.
So I, I definitely can't mentionany of that.
You know, let's see what else can I not mention?
I can't mention trans. I can't mention gay.
I can't mention, you know, we can't go talk about hell, really
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can't talk about this, Can't talk about that 'cause I'll run
all these people off. So out in the biggie, you know,
the real biggie, you can't, you can't even think about talking
about biblical cosmology. Oh no, you cannot.
No matter what and any church that I've been into that is that
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I've attended, you cannot go against Hollywood.
You can't go against NASA, you can't go against Biden.
You can't you can't go against what you see on the TVI mean
they'll show you a clone or somekind of a freak standing up
there and say there's there's Joe Biden right there.
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Looks nothing like what Joe Biden looked like 3 or 4 years
ago. You can see it's a clearly a
different man, OK, if it's even a man, any fool can see that.
But Hollywood says it's the realthing and CNN says it's the real
thing. So your church pastor is going
to tell you it's the real thing.If CNN, Hollywood and NASA tells
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you that you're hey, if they start trying to tell you you're
on Mars, you're going to have tobelieve it.
OK, And the and the pastor will go along with it.
They are not going to go againstanything hardly that you see on
TV unless they're you know, I'm maybe there's some out there.
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Majority of them will give you avery tickling of your ear type
sermon, nothing to offend in anyway.
It's all about feel good now, OK, We don't want to expose
anybody's sins, anybody's problems, because then people
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will get mad and they'll stop paying their money.
You see, that's this whole wholething with these big church
buildings, this, you know, constant vicious cycle, you
know, never ending. So I personally don't think you
can get a lot of truth from a big pastor at a big church
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because he will not run anybody off, you know?
And if you think listen to Joel Osteen is going to get you
somewhere, don't worry. He's never going to mention
heaven. Well, he might.
He'll mention heaven, but he is never going to mention hell.
Absolutely not. There's no such thing.
You're going to have your best life now, OK?
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That's his motto. So you listen to stuff like
that. Don't worry, you're going to be
in hell when you die so you get to see first hand.
So I would think about that if Iwere you.
Anyway, I'm going to try to cut this thing off.
I don't want to stay here for hours like I usually do.
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So I hope this helped. I hope to help somebody.
If you have any questions like that or want a podcast or hey,
send me an e-mail, you can get in touch with me through the
Truth Seekers website and through its flat Row website or
you can see me. You can send me an e-mail
directly at truthseekers2012@gmail.com.
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So thanks again for listening and please, if you're listening
on Spotify or YouTube, click thelike button.
If you want to subscribe, leave a comment, any of the above.
And I think that's it. Let's see if there's anything
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else. Go check out the websites.
It's flatbro.com, Truth seekers,ministry.org, or
kennywilliamson.com. And like I said, any questions,
shoot them to me. Thanks again for listening and
until we meet again, God bless you.
Well, it's supposed to be the ending.
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There it is.
Hello and welcome back to another episode of Mckills Death
Chronicles. As you know, my name is Kenny
Williamson and I am the host of said show.
So welcome back. As I like to say, welcome back,
(01:19):
welcome back, welcome back, welcome back.
In case you don't know what showthat's off of, it's an old one.
Anyway, so we are back again. I've got one of my new shirts on
that I got from Conspiracy MusicGuru if you want to check that
guy out. And I play some of his songs
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once in a while and you can clearly see that it says hoax.
And we've got the space station,we've got the globe, we got the
moon Lander, and we've got satellites there.
Pretty neat. I believe that all that is a
hoax, by the way. So what we're going to talk
about today is I have recently been receiving, you know, lots
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of letters, communications from listeners and lots of people
have questions. And this guy here, he sent me
one and I've got it. I think he calls himself the KGB
guy. I think it's it's on his e-mail,
but he is he's wanting to talk about what's called
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annihilationism, if you have never heard of that.
So I'm going to go over what that is real quick.
But yeah, so we'll get right into it.
He sent me a letter or an e-mailand it says, hey, brother, hope
you're doing well. I was wondering if I could ask
you a question. I'm dealing with the subject of
annihilationism. OK.
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And I was wondering if you couldmake a video.
Here it is. Here's the video dealing with
this false teaching. I believe the Bible teaches
eternal consciousness torment. However, this teaching of
annihilationism is often taught by 7th day Adventists and
Jehovah Witnesses. And it is.
It says that it's now getting gaining traction in the
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evangelical evangelical circles.And even worse, some Bible
believers are starting to teach this now.
And they will say things like, you know, talk about Revelation
14 and Revelation 20 that don't apply to people, just applies to
the devil and the satanic Trinity and only people who take
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the mark of the beast anyway. And they go on and on.
And it says basically they're arguing that the first death is
your body, the second death is your soul.
And yeah, so that's basically that's what that is in
Christianity. The annihilationism is a belief
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that after the last judgment, soyou've got your White Throne
judgment, all damned humans and fallen angels, including Satan,
will be totally destroyed and their consciousness
extinguished. So what what we're trying to do
here is what these people are trying to do, OK, Is there
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trying to teach that you die andyou go to hell, OK, And you're
going to be in hell for. Well, obviously you don't get
resurrected. And I say resurrected.
I don't mean resurrected into some perfect body.
You don't get resurrected out ofhell until the White Throne
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Judgment, which is after the thousand year millennial reign
of Jesus Christ. So let's hypothetically pretend
that the Jacob's trouble or otherwise known by some people
as tribulation, the seven years of tribulation.
Let's say that happened right now and you're already dead.
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So you would be in hell for those seven years.
And then when Christ returns andstarts his millennial reign and
puts and puts heaven, heaven puts the devil in hell, you
would still be in hell for that thousand years.
And then once the 1000 years is up, Christ allows the devil to
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be taken out of hell and do someshenanigans for a short time.
We don't know how long that timeis.
I don't know if that's 100 years, 200 years, I don't know.
It doesn't. It doesn't, it doesn't specify,
but it's called Satan's little season.
So he's a let out for a little season.
You will still be in hell for that time.
And then when he decides Satan'slittle season's over and you
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know, he decides to do the WhiteThrone judgement after that.
So if you died today and went tohell and the seven-year
tribulation started next week, you would be dead in hell for at
least 1007 years, right? So if you died 300 years ago,
you know, and you're in hell, you got 300 years plus the seven
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years plus the thousand years. So that's kind of how that
works. Well, the Bible says after we're
at this white throne judgement scene, you get to come up before
God and the books are opened andyou get to judge you be you're
judged on your works. See, you're judged on your works
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because you never accepted the blood of Jesus Christ.
So now you have to go by your own merit, OK, which obviously
sucks or you wouldn't want to hell to begin with, right?
So you're going by your own merit, and you have to pay for
your sin now. And all your sins are recorded
in these books. So they're going to open the
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Lamb's Book of Life, which is the book that tells you whether
or not you were saved, whether or not you accepted Jesus Christ
as your personal Savior. Obviously your name is not in
that book or you would have never went to hell to begin
with. You see what I'm saying?
But there's always going to be those people, you know, the
people they're going to say, well, hey, hey, wait a second.
I was a pretty good old boy. I never, I never, I never really
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did anything wrong, but I went straight to hell.
I never got, I never got a trial.
I never got a trial. So I think I'm innocent.
So they get to come up before the White Throne judgement.
This is like a a hearing in a court.
And you get to present your caseof, you know, how good of a guy
you were. And then the books are opened
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and it shows how crappy of a guyyou were because that's what we
all are. We're all sinners.
And obviously it says at that point you're thrown into the
lake of fire. So is the devil, so is his
angels. OK, so let's see.
So he he mentioned in his letterhere Revelation 1411.
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So anyway, so just just to get that out of the way, that's
that's kind of how that whole system works.
So in Revelation 14, verse 11, it says in the smoke of the
torment ascendeth up forever andever.
OK, and they have no rest day ornight who worship the the beast
and his image and whoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Now that particular statement right there is referring to
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people who take the mark of the beast during the seven years of
Jacob's trouble or seven-year tribulation, whatever you want
to call it. King James Bible refers to it
seven years of Jacob's trouble, which is Israel's trouble.
OK, So he's saying that people are saying, well, that only
applies to these guys here. Now, OK, this right here is just
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letting you know that if you're alive during that seven years
and and you claim to be a Christian or whatever, you
didn't get raptured out, but here you are and you go ahead
and take that mark. Once you take that mark, you're
non redeemable. You can't be saved after that.
OK, so whoever takes that mark is going to hell just to let you
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know that. So then we go on to Revelation
2010 and it says, and the devil that deceived them was cast into
the lake of fire, OK, and brimstone, where the beast and
the false prophet are, because they'd already got thrown in
there. And she'll be tormented again
day and night, forever and ever.Now, I don't know if you see the
theme here. When you get into that lake of
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fire, it says that you are tormented forever.
OK, so that goes against the annihilation deal that says, oh,
you're just dead and you don't feel a thing.
OK, That's not that's not what the Bible says.
OK, So then we get to our White Throne judgment here, which is
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Revelation 20, verse 11. And this is what we're talking
about here. And it says, you know, and I saw
the great White Throne and him that said on it from whose face
the earth and heaven fled away, and there was found no place for
them. So here we are up in the water.
I guess used to it was taught there sitting around in outer
space. But God's throne is is on the
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water. So I'm sure they're in the
water. Says when I saw the dead small
and great, these are people who had died and went to hell.
OK, I saw the dead small and great stand before God.
And the books were opened, and another book was opened in this,
which is the book of life. And the dead were judged out of
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those things which were written in the books according to the
works. So now, yes, these people died
and their bodies died, but theirsouls went to hell.
Their bodies didn't go to hell. Now these people are standing
here again, and they're referredto as the dead people who had
died. And I guess they're referred to
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the dead like that because they didn't get resurrected into new
bodies to go into heaven. You know, they didn't get
raptured. They didn't get resurrected in
the rapture. So they're considered dead
because they're in hell. If you went to heaven, you're
not considered dead. So these people are dead and
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they just came up out of hell and they're getting judged.
OK. And it says in the sea gave up
the dead which were in it, and death and hell delivered up the
dead, which were in them. So obviously the people that are
in hell are considered dead, OK,because they're not in a they're
not in a new body. So they're dead, OK.
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And they were judged every man according to the works.
Well, let me know how that worksout for you, OK.
As soon as you stand up there inthe books open and it starts
going down your sins, you're cooked, OK?
You are going into that lake of fire.
You're going right out of the fryer pan, right into the fire,
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OK? You ain't getting away with
nothing. It's been written down.
If you don't think you're being watched by watchers and angels
and everything else, you're fooling yourself, OK?
God knows every single move you've ever made, and it doesn't
matter if the light switch was turned off or not, OK?
You're you're caught, you're going to stand up there and
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you're going to you're going to say hey, hey, hey, and they're
going to open up those books andthey're going to all the sins
you've committed and you're going to look like a fool
because you are a fool. OK?
You rejected the free gift of salvation.
So you're full and you're hell bound.
You just came out of hell and you're fixing to go right back
into some probably even worse. So Revelation 2014 and death and
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hell were cast into the lake of fire.
This is the second death. Now some people get hung up on
that saying we'll see. That's different because the
first death was your body. We are not concerned with your
body here. We're concerned with your soul.
OK, your body goes to the grave.Your soul is what's going to
hell. Your soul is either going to go
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to heaven or to hell. Now, eventually, if your soul is
in heaven, it says that God willresurrect your body.
But it's made into a perfect body.
It's not the same body like whatwe have now, because these are
old, sinful, fleshly bodies. Flesh and bone.
Bodies like this are not in heaven.
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OK, they may have something, butthey're a perfect some kind of
body. They're not like our bodies, you
know, like Jesus Christ body after he came back down from
heaven and talked to all his guys, you know, he can literally
walk through walls and appear inbuildings, appear, disappear.
We can't do that. So that is obviously something
different than what we have now.OK, So either way, so these
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people were in hell, they're considered dead.
They're goners, they're down there.
And now hell is going to be thrown into the lake of fire.
But it says the lake of fire is torment forever and ever, OK.
And so we go on to 15, verse 15.And who, whosoever was not found
written in the book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
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OK, now, Revelation 2118, talking about people who were
probably alive during this tribulation period, fearful,
unbelieving, abominable murderers, whoremongers,
sorcerers and idolaters and all liars shall have their part in
the lake of fire, which burneth with fire and brimstone, which
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is the second death. So you know, you were
resurrected or brought up out ofhell.
You're considered dead. And you, you've got a little
reprieve there because you're probably waiting in line to get
your judgement and then like, oh, you're still guilty.
So they throw you into the lake of fire.
So that would be your second time.
That's the second time you're dead.
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I mean, that's that's more or less what it's saying here.
OK, in math, in the course, we can go back to Matthew 2541.
This is 1 here it says, Then shall he say unto them on the
left hand. Of course, it's talking about
the goat, the sheep and the goatjudgement.
He separates them, ones on the left, ones on the right.
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The the ones that didn't accept Jesus are on the left, the ones
that did on the right for example.
And he says, then, then, then shall he say unto them, on the
left hand, Depart from me ye cursed into guess what,
everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
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So hell was originally prepared for the devil and his angels.
OK, And then they get thrown into the lake of fire
everlasting, it says, So there you go, that here, here's the,
you know, you're getting cast ineverlasting.
There's no reason to say that it's not everlasting.
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OK. And then Matthew 2546 says, And
these shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the
righteous in into life eternal. So what's saying here is your
soul is eternal. It's either going to eternally
be in heaven or it's going to eternally be in hell.
OK, So like like this guy said, you know, you've got preachers
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teaching this stuff. And what I wanted to do is I
thought it was really interesting because, you know,
I've, I'm fairly learned on the subject and I, I can say I can,
I can experience or have experienced a lot of that stuff
because my father was a Jehovah's Witness, OK.
And in talking with him, he, that's what he believed.
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He believed there is no hell that when you die, you go to the
grave and it's like you're asleep.
It's like you took a nap. And eventually you're going to
wake up to the White Throne judgement.
You'll just wake up and you're there.
And then you get to state your case to God.
And my dad honestly believed that he could slick talk God
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into allowing him going to heaven.
That was his second chance. See, he could commit any sin or
do anything he wanted now because when he died, he just
went to sleep. And then when he woke up, he
woke up to the White Throne judgement where he could say,
oh, no, wait a second, God, you know, I was born poor and I was
this and I was that. Oh, OK, well, let's just let you
slide right on through then. So he literally thought he was
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going to get a second chance at the White Throne judgment.
He didn't. He didn't have to do anything
with Jesus Christ. He didn't have to do that.
He didn't have to do anything, OK?
He could literally live like thedevil, reject Jesus Christ, OK,
Which is what Jehovah's Witnesses have done.
You know, they, they consider Jesus Christ Lucifer's brother,
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OK. And you know, that's what they
do in their new world, their NewWorld Translation Bible is
they've retranslated a bunch of stuff to fit their little
narrative that Jesus Christ is not the only begotten son of
God. He is an, an A God.
He's an additional God and he can just do whatever he wants,
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kind of like Lucifer. That's that's what they say.
So they're way out there. But anyway, so a lot of the
stuff that I have studied over the years is from Peter Ruckman,
who is dead of course. And I have a bunch of his books
up there. They're over there, all of his
Bible studies. And if a person really wants to
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get down to the nitty gritty andlearn the truth, let's say about
Revelation, this is his book right here, The Revelation of
Jesus Christ, written by Peter Ruckman.
And I have read this book multiple times and I have all
kinds of stuff highlighted in here.
But what I did is I went throughand found exactly what the KGB
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guy here is talking about. And Peter Ruckman already wrote
about it, you know, and he's waysmarter guy than I'll ever be.
And he's just tells you like it is in this book.
So I thought that I would just basically read these couple of
passages here that I have highlighted to help you
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understand what another big timeguy thought about this same
thing. And he tells you why.
He tells you exactly why you thequestion you're asking about
this, this is the answer. Let me read it to you, OK?
Now this is referring to Revelation 1411, you know, And
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it says in the smoke of their torment ascended up forever and
ever, OK? And they have no rest day or
night who worship the beast in his image and whoever received
with the mark of his name. OK.
Peter Ruckman said this is one of the clearest passages in the
New Testament on the eternal punishment of the lost in hell.
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It goes without saying that the majority of people in America do
not believe in a literal hell. And that's what these people are
doing here that he's talking about.
And this is for a very good reason, because they're going
there, OK? They're going there.
That's why they don't want to believe it.
The fact that preachers have quit preaching about hell is no
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sign that hell has become air conditioned or renovated or
redecorated. One of the tragedies tragedies
of this age is the fact that thepreaching of hell fire has gone
out of the pulpit. The time has come in America
when even Bible believing preachers are ashamed to preach
about literal everlasting burning in hell.
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They are so afraid of this truthit is, let's see it is
unreasonable, illogical or non intellectual and they think that
they will be branded as hillbillies, fanatics and hate
mongers if they speak of hell. OK.
And so they remain muzzled aboutit.
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This feeling in America is so common today that the statement
on hell has been taken out of the Apostles Creed, OK, where it
says Christ descended into hell.They've removed that.
OK, the 7th date. Now this is this is exactly what
the guy was asking in the in theletter.
So This is why I felt this was so definitely pertaining to it.
OK, so the 7th day Adventist andJehovah's Witnesses have decided
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that you are annihilated insteadof going to hell.
OK, The liberals, communist, Jehovah's Witnesses have all
decided that. And their their motto, he says,
is all is well, there ain't no hell.
So you there is no punishment for anything you've done.
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OK, let's say it says. Yet the grounds for rejecting A
literal hell are not found in the New Testament.
As a famous Greek scholar once said, he was misguided, but he
still knew his Greek. If anybody has quit believing in
a literal burning, everlasting hell, they have not ceased to
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believe on it on the grounds of the Greek New Testament.
I may add that they have not ceased to believe on it on the
grounds of the English New Testament either.
The English New Testament and the Greek New Testament teach a
literal burning, everlasting hell.
That's what the Bible teaches. OK, so let's go on here.
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This is such an unpopular doctrine and such a hated
doctrine and such an uncouth doctrine that the majority of
preachers in America have quit believing that it that it is
Bible doctrine. You will notice that the best
Bibles, and this is in air quotes here, the best Bibles
translated by the conservatives like the Amplified and the ASV
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refused to translate the world the word hell.
OK, they won't even translate the word hell anymore.
In fact, I mentioned that in oneof those Prophecy Seeker
magazines. They won't even mention hell in
there. They call it Hades.
They will not even say the word.Makes you wonder why, huh?
Well, I'm going to tell you why.It tells you why right here.
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OK, it says where they find the word hades in the Greek.
They leave it untranslated and transliterate it into hades,
which is not even a translation.So see Hades is a
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transliteration the new Bibles are afraid to translate.
So they will translate the Greekword uranos into heaven, yet
they will not translate the the Greek word hades into hell.
So what that means is, is in theGreek, it says Hades, and that's
translated into hell, into English.
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But what they do is they claim they're doing a translation, but
they don't translate that word. They leave it.
So they're leaving a Greek word instead of an English word.
They translate all the other Greek words, but they won't
translate the word hades becausethat's the word hell.
So they want you to say Hades. They don't want you to say hell
say because Hades is is lighter Hades is, you know, that's not
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that bad. Hell, that's bad.
But it actually the same word. So that's called a
transliteration when they actually say they're translating
something and then they leave the word in the original and
don't translate it, but they tell you they translated.
I don't understand that. But anyway, so so it says in
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plainer words, you have to be a Greek to go to hell because they
won't translate it out of Greek.OK, but if you're an Englishman,
you get to go to heaven because they will translate the word
heaven, but they won't translatethe word hell.
OK, so according to Peter Ruckman, this shows the true
attitude of the best modern translators towards God's word.
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I may say, without any fear of contradiction at the judgement
seat of Christ, that the best translations on the market today
are translated by men who do nothave enough reverence for the
Bible to put the left eye of a blind mosquito or to put it in
to put in the Yeah. In other words, they're not
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translating it. They don't want you to believe
in hell. OK.
And the reason for that is it says the majority of preachers
no longer preach about hell because they don't believe in
it. And they don't believe in it
because that's where they're headed.
They're headed to hell. OK, When you find a man busy
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renovating and air conditioning hell, you can be assured that
he's about to move in. So when they try to tell you
that Hell's no big deal and it'snot at turn, you know that
they're trying to renovate hell and as he says, they're trying
to air condition it. It's not that bad.
It's not hell. It's Hades.
It's not hell. It's just purgatory.
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But we can get you out of that for a fee, OK?
And don't worry, after that, you'll be annihilated.
You know you're not going to have to see anything after that,
so don't worry about it. Do whatever you want.
Do as thou wilt. You didn't get no real
punishment. Now, that's not what the Bible
teaches, but that's what these clowns teach.
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OK, so but we should examine thepassages in the New Testament
which say that hell is a literalplace burning with a literal
fire that never goes out, and that sinners who burn in it
never burn up, OK? For they have soulish bodies
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instead of physical bodies. Again, it's not your regular
body, it's your soul in there, OK?
And then like this other guy said, you know, some say that
the smoke goes up forever, but that doesn't mean the torment
goes up forever. But the Bible passage actually
says the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever.
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He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone.
So, and then of course, you know, in Revelation 21/8 when he
says one of the questions was, you know, they're they're going
to have their part in the lake of far, but that could be
something different. You know, just because they have
a part in there doesn't mean they're going to be burning.
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It says they shall have their part in the lake with burneth
with fire and brimstone. It does not say that they're
going to burn up in the fire. It says they are going to have
their part in it. The smoke of this lake, which
burns with fire and brimstone goes up forever and ever.
The people in it are tormented forever and ever.
The devil is in it and he's tormented forever and ever.
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OK. The beast and the false prophet
are in it and are tormented forever and ever.
The smoke of their torment goes up day and night, forever and
ever. They have no rest day or night,
forever or ever. It's very clear.
If you believe what you read in the Bible as you read it where
you find it, OK, then then you have to believe it because
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that's what the Bible teaches. But like he says, many people do
not believe that. They don't believe it.
They will not believe it and they cannot believe it for
various reasons. Most of the reasons are summed
up in one word, sin. That's that's the one word.
Peter Ruckman sums it all up. So the reason they're teaching
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this junk is because they're on their way to hell.
They did. They don't want to believe in
hell. They're, they're trying to
sugarcoat everything because I mean, obviously they're on their
way there. They wouldn't they, they
wouldn't be doing what they're doing.
For example, myself, I would tell you the Bible says God's
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words, says that there is a literal hell.
Hell will be cast into a lake offire, which is burning forever
and ever. In your torment, you'll be
tormented in this lake of fire forever and ever.
Now that's what the Bible says. That's not what I made-up.
OK? We can chapter and verse all
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that. That is what the Bible says, OK?
God's Word says that. So, you know, don't get mad at
me if I tell you what the Bible says, OK?
I believe what the Bible says and I believe that, you know, if
you're not saved, you're going to go to hell and you will
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eventually, you know, get your white throne judgement and then
you're going to be cast into thelake of fire because you would
have never went to hell to beginwith had you accepted Jesus
Christ. You see.
So you, you it's not escape. It's not, you're not getting an
escape like my dad thought. He thought, Oh yeah, I'm, I'm
going to, I'm going to get out of that.
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I won't have to mess with any ofit.
And then worst case scenario, oh, if they don't believe my
story, you know, I'll pitch him a big, big spiel here.
If they don't believe it, I'll just go to sleep forever.
It's like I'm going to dream, you know, I won't know anything.
I won't feel anything. So there's nothing to worry
about. And I saw a street preacher
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teaching that to somebody here. I saw a video where this lady,
she's really concerned about going to hell.
And the guys like, oh, you don'tbe concerned about that.
Oh, no. And she's like, well, why not?
Isn't it a literal place that you burn?
Oh, no, no, no, honey, all hell is is absent, mean absence from
God. So you're still alive.
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You're just fine. It's like you're it's like
you're in a little party deal. You know, you're hell.
You're either going to go to heaven or you're going to go to
hell. But hell is not a place of
torment or fire or burning. It's just life without God.
So imagine a bunch of people together living forever in a
place called hell. But you know, I mean, there's no
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fire, there's no burning. Now you won't get to see God
because God's in heaven, but youcould see all your buddies.
And you know, you guys can party, do whatever you want.
I mean, it's your life. Do whatever you want to do.
There's no punishment involved. So if you don't really want to
hang around with God and listen to this junk, you know, and have
to go by all these rules and regulations, then just hell is
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just absence, absence from God. Well, you don't you don't
believe in God anyway, do you? No, well, you're already absent
from him. So, so just go, no big deal.
That's that's what they're teaching these people instead of
saying, you know, the Bible saysthat it is eternal punishment
and damnation, screaming, yelling, burning type stuff,
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torment and you never burn up goes on forever and ever.
Let's see. They don't want to teach that
they they they won't even. And it's just like I just like I
said in the prophecy watchers deal.
OK, you're reading this good magazine here from a PhD, you
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know, in seminary, in cemetery. And they sit there and tell you,
Oh well, you know, Hades, you'reeither going to, when you die,
you're either going to paradise,you're going to go to Hades.
What is another one of these? The reason they don't want to
say anything about hell is because that's where they're
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going. You see, they want, they want to
spruce up hell, just like Peter Uckman says.
They want to air condition hell.They want to make sure it's not
that bad. Don't worry about it.
Just don't even worry about it instead of telling you the
truth. So I hope that this podcast here
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on this particular subject, I hope that it helps somebody and
I hope it helped the guy who sent me the e-mail.
I sure hope it did. So like I was saying, I just
checked real quick. The guy that sent me the emails
named Devin and he goes by the King James, the KGV guy.
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OK? So I hope that helped you, but
it's a very simply answer your question is these people like
Peter Ruckman said, they don't want to teach on this stuff
because they're on their way there.
And, you know, they they host Jeho's Witnesses.
They're so far out there. You know, they had to veer so
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far away from Scripture. They had to come up with their
own Bible, you know, so they rewrote it, called the New World
Translation to fit their little personal belief in their
narratives. And it's nothing what a regular
Bible teaches you. And The funny thing is, like the
King James, I should say, not a regular, the King James Bible,
the Authorized Version. You know, you go back and look
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at these Jehovah's Witnesses. You know, they're getting
everything out of the out of theWatchtower magazine and these
magazines, OK? And you do a little bit of
research and find out who started Jehovah's Witnesses.
I mean, it's a joke these, I mean, they've got these guys
that have bounced around from one thing to another and they
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basically start a cult and it's whatever they believe is is
whatever they teach, not necessarily what the Bible says
or anything like that. And people get bought into this
and the same as same in the 7th day Adventist, same as several
others. You know, they, you know that I
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don't know, it's so far out, youknow, that you could say God
came to me directly and he gave me some, you know, special
scrolls made out of gold. And I'm the only one that can
read them. And I can't even read them
unless I have some special glasses and, you know, some
special spectacles and I've got to use stones and throw stones,
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all kinds of stuff to read this.Nobody else can read it.
And it's a new revelation only Iknow.
Well, the Bible says, you know, the scriptures of no private
interpretation. It's put out there so everybody
can see it. Everybody can read it.
There is no secret. You can read the thing for
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yourself. That way you have no excuse.
OK, If Jesus shows up to some dude in the woods and gives him
some magical glasses that nobodyelse can see or anything, it's
up to him to do it. And, and it completely
contradicts what the Bible says.And now he's got a cult and you
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have to do what he says. I mean, come on, use your head.
I mean, you can do a Google search on these people that
started these little Colts like Jehovah's Witnesses and the
Mormons and the this and the that.
I mean, it's ridiculous. It goes against Scripture.
Get yourself a King James Bible and read it.
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OK? If you have any questions about
this stuff and if you want to know all about the Book of
Revelation and have to understand it better, I
recommend this book, which you can get online and you can get
from, I think it's called the Bible Baptist Bookstore or
something. It's the one that Peter
Ruckman's family, I guess, stillruns.
He used to own it or whatever. You can get it spiral bound like
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this one. You can get it other other ways.
You know, if you got any questions, I mean that this is
really good, but it goes over all that stuff and I don't know.
But anyway, Devin, this, you know, I basically recorded this
to help answer that question. I hope this answered your
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question. And I do believe that people are
teaching it incorrectly. And I believe that they are
there. They don't want, they don't want
to run off the money. That's that's another biggie is
you get these church buildings, OK, and they cost big money and
you get people in there and you know, they start telling you
about the ties. You have to pay 10% of your
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ties, which is not New Testamentby the way, but let's throw it
out there. So you'll pay your money.
So you know, if, if you're, if you're a millionaire or if you
make 500,000 a year and you actually pay your 10% and you're
in there at the church, Well, hey, that's big money.
Now we need that money to pay their salary, This guy's salary,
you know that coffee bar in the back that cost a lot of money.
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The mortgage on this $5,000,000 building.
Well, hey, you know, we got it. We got to have this $5,000,000
building. We we couldn't possibly have
church in something less. So we've got to have that money
coming in Now. It just so happens that these
big time people, a lot of them, not all, a lot of these people
paying these big ties, you know,they're, they're not saved.
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You know, they're out living like the devil.
They probably, some of them got their money from, you know,
nefarious means from probably cheating, stealing, lying,
murdering, who knows what. So they come in here and pay
this big money thinking it's they're like they're going to
pay God off. I'll just give them, you know,
I'll give the church quite a bitof my money and I'm pretty good.
And then but I don't want to hear about any of this stuff.
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And so the preacher starts talking about heaven and hell.
And also, you know, I don't wantto hear that.
So the preachers like, well, look, I can't run these guys off
because this is big money comingin.
So there's no way I can teach on, hell, forget that, OK, I
can't teach on, you know, sodomites, which is the King
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James Version for gay people, gay men, sodomites.
I, I can't treat you on that because I've got, you know, I've
got some, I've got a guy teaching Sunday school in the
back. He's trans.
So I, I definitely can't mentionany of that.
You know, let's see what else can I not mention?
I can't mention trans. I can't mention gay.
I can't mention, you know, we can't go talk about hell, really
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can't talk about this, Can't talk about that 'cause I'll run
all these people off. So out in the biggie, you know,
the real biggie, you can't, you can't even think about talking
about biblical cosmology. Oh no, you cannot.
No matter what and any church that I've been into that is that
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I've attended, you cannot go against Hollywood.
You can't go against NASA, you can't go against Biden.
You can't you can't go against what you see on the TVI mean
they'll show you a clone or somekind of a freak standing up
there and say there's there's Joe Biden right there.
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Looks nothing like what Joe Biden looked like 3 or 4 years
ago. You can see it's a clearly a
different man, OK, if it's even a man, any fool can see that.
But Hollywood says it's the realthing and CNN says it's the real
thing. So your church pastor is going
to tell you it's the real thing.If CNN, Hollywood and NASA tells
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you that you're hey, if they start trying to tell you you're
on Mars, you're going to have tobelieve it.
OK, And the and the pastor will go along with it.
They are not going to go againstanything hardly that you see on
TV unless they're you know, I'm maybe there's some out there.
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Majority of them will give you avery tickling of your ear type
sermon, nothing to offend in anyway.
It's all about feel good now, OK, We don't want to expose
anybody's sins, anybody's problems, because then people
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will get mad and they'll stop paying their money.
You see, that's this whole wholething with these big church
buildings, this, you know, constant vicious cycle, you
know, never ending. So I personally don't think you
can get a lot of truth from a big pastor at a big church
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because he will not run anybody off, you know?
And if you think listen to Joel Osteen is going to get you
somewhere, don't worry. He's never going to mention
heaven. Well, he might.
He'll mention heaven, but he is never going to mention hell.
Absolutely not. There's no such thing.
You're going to have your best life now, OK?
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That's his motto. So you listen to stuff like
that. Don't worry, you're going to be
in hell when you die so you get to see first hand.
So I would think about that if Iwere you.
Anyway, I'm going to try to cut this thing off.
I don't want to stay here for hours like I usually do.
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So I hope this helped. I hope to help somebody.
If you have any questions like that or want a podcast or hey,
send me an e-mail, you can get in touch with me through the
Truth Seekers website and through its flat Row website or
you can see me. You can send me an e-mail
directly at truthseekers2012@gmail.com.
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So thanks again for listening and please, if you're listening
on Spotify or YouTube, click thelike button.
If you want to subscribe, leave a comment, any of the above.
And I think that's it. Let's see if there's anything
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else. Go check out the websites.
It's flatbro.com, Truth seekers,ministry.org, or
kennywilliamson.com. And like I said, any questions,
shoot them to me. Thanks again for listening and
until we meet again, God bless you.
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