December 4, 2025 • 38 mins
In this episode, I go over some of the topics that were covered in the Danny Jones Podcast with Bart Sibrel. They are talking to an ex-Astro-Not Charlie Duke. He claims he walked on the moon, but Bart is a moon landing denier. You know what I think about the subject. Please give it a listen and let me know what you think.
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Hello, this is Kenny Williamson and welcome back to another
episode of Makila Zdek Chronicles.
It's been a few days since we had another podcast or a podcast
come out. So I thought it was about high
time we did another one. In this particular one I'm
talking about, I've been watching, I, I follow a guy on
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his e-mail list named Bart Sabrel.
If you've never heard of him, heis a guy who he's a moon landing
denier, OK. And I thought he was really
interesting a long time ago because I've, I've never
believed we went to the moon. OK, But before I became a
biblical cosmologist or a flat earther as some would say, you
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know, I thought, I thought Bart was right on.
Because what he does is he takesall of science of our so-called
fake science and he uses it against the people that are
doing it to prove that we didn'tgo to the moon.
Well, I mean, I I think he's right on.
The problem is, is he's using their science against them and
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their science in my opinion is fake.
So I don't believe we can get past the firmament.
OK, so we're not going into outer space and never have.
So it's a really interesting video because he'd sent out some
stuff on it saying that he was he lives off in another country
and he had to come back to the US, United States here to be on
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this podcast. Well, the podcast is a called
the Danny Jones podcast. OK, I'm not, I mean, I it's all
right. I'm not a big fan because I mean
this the guy that runs it, you know, he's kind of like, he
seems very he he doesn't seem toknow much about anything.
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It's always these really dumb questions and he's he's very
opinionated, but doesn't know anything.
So anyway, so he manages somehowthough, to get Bart Sabrel on
his podcast along with an ex astronaut named Charlie Duke.
OK, I've interviewed a couple oftimes Bart Sabrel on this
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podcast and Windows audio only. So I've talked to Bart a couple
times. I've talked to him on the phone
and you know, he he doesn't wantto have anything to do with Flat
Earth. OK, He's, he believes in outer
space. He believes it all, except he
doesn't believe we went to the moon.
So I think he's he's just barelyscratching the surface.
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OK. But I thought this was pretty
interesting because I was reading through lots of the
comments of all the people that had watched this video and, you
know, it's pretty, it's pretty obvious that 99% of the people
out there are completely, totally lost.
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That's pretty obvious. And so they're, they're mad at
Bart and they're mad at this Danny Jones guy for having this
astronaut on, because this astronaut, he supposedly, let's
see here, he supposedly walked on the moon.
He's supposedly the 10th person to walk on the moon.
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And he did this when he was in Apollo 16, the Apollo 16
program. He is now 90 years old.
So he came on and he was talkingall about it.
Well, you know, they're asking him questions and he doesn't
have any answers to any of them,most of them.
And so all the people are mad saying, you know, how dare you
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put a man like that. You know, he's, he's a brave
American hero. You know, he's, he's just, you
know, 'cause these people, of course, they think football
players are brave American heroes, right?
I mean, they think Hollywood movie stars are brave and
they're American heroes and they're fighting for us.
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No, they're not. They're devils, they're liars.
And it's Hollywood, OK, But mostof these people around here are
so lost, they don't have a clue.So they're really attacking Bart
Sabrel in, you know, in the comments, You know, how dare you
say this to a, a national hero. This guy's a national treasure
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in their eyes. So what we have, in my opinion,
is we have a guy up there who claims he walked on the moon,
which I don't believe that he did.
He's been claiming this for 50-6years.
And because he's claiming it andyou can go on Cartoon Network
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and see it that he's a, he's a national treasure.
He's a hero or he's a liar and adevil.
I don't know. He may be telling the truth in
his own mind and we'll talk about that in a second.
But some of these other so-called astronauts, you know
that Bart Sabrel tried to interview one of them being Neil
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Armstrong. You know they won't, they won't
even say they went to the moon. He he's like, hey, swear on the
Bible you went to the moon. They're like Nah.
And the 1 old Buzz Aldrin, you know, he went up to him and Buzz
Aldrin punched him. And that's, I think that's one
of his movies called Astronauts Gone Wild.
Pretty interesting. You can see all that by the way,
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Astronauts Gone Wild and a funnything happened on the way to the
moon. You can watch those videos for
free on his website and his website, issabrel.com, if you
want to go check that out. I think it's interesting.
It's really, it's really, reallyinteresting to me.
It's comical. It's comical to me because Bart
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believes we went that we did notgo to the moon, but he believes
in outer space. He does not believe biblical
cosmology whatsoever. And so he's arguing with people
who claimed to have went to space, which I don't believe
they did either. And they've got all these
excuses and all these things andit, it's unbelievable.
It's comical to me. And the other thing is comical,
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seems to me like is, you know, like I said, he, he believes
everything that NASA says exceptthat we went to the moon.
OK, so they start talking about Van Allen radiation belts that
are way out there. OK, Cuz a guy named Van Allen
discovered these belts of radiation supposedly deep in
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outer space. But supposedly you would have to
go through these belts to get tothe moon, right?
So you've got modern day astronauts, if you will.
You've got them all over online.You can Google this.
They're saying, you know, we can't get go back to the moon
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until we figure out how to get through this region of space.
This Van Allen radiation is so high that a person can't survive
going through it. And we have to figure this out
before we can get people into deep space.
This is something we have to figure out.
But they're like, well, didn't you figure this out back in
1969? I mean, you, you, you, you sent
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people to the moon five times. Supposedly you went right
through them. And so, you know, so Bart asks
Charlie Duke here, this old astronaut.
Well, how did you get through it?
He goes, well, I don't know anything about it.
You've never heard of the Van Allen radiation melts.
Oh, yeah, Yeah, I've heard of them.
But, you know, we just went. We just went right through it.
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And it's like, well, they claim they're 30,000 miles long.
How fast were you going? Oh, well, we were going, you
know, 20,000 miles an hour. OK, so it took you about an hour
and a half to get through them. According to the they claim
they're so strong because they've sent spaceships into it.
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See, that you'd never survive. It would just kill you.
It'd be like getting an X-ray for an hour and a half straight.
It would literally fry you. And so, you know, they're
arguing back and forth about this stuff.
So I don't believe the Van Allenradiation belts exist.
I think they're fake. Space is fake.
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You can't get past the firmament.
That's what I believe. But these guys here, they
believe you can. And one of these limiting
factors is these Van Allen radiation belts.
So, you know, Bart is talking about the length and the speed
and Charlie Duke comes in and hesays, hey, you know, I didn't
feel a thing. And so then, you know, Bart's
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like, well, of course you didn'tbecause you didn't go through
them. You you lied.
Oh no, I. Didn't I went to the moon?
I went to the moon. That's all.
You know, he repeats that several times.
The other thing that's funny in this in this video is another
thing this this Charlie Duke keeps repeating.
Is he like they'll they'll be talking about something like a
segment like let's talk about the Van Van Allen radiation
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belts Somewhere through this, this guy, he stops and he's
like, what exactly is the point of this discussion?
And so then Danny here, he well,here's what we're trying to do.
We're trying to do, you know, take blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah. So what are you saying?
I didn't go to the moon? Well, that's the consensus.
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That's what bar here is trying to say you know well.
I went. I went to the moon.
OK. So then they go to another
segment. OK, let's talk about, you know,
whatever else. The moon rocks.
What's the point of this discussion?
Well, we're trying to determine if the moon rocks are real
because, you know, you supposedly brought back moon
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rocks. These moon rocks were
distributed to people all over the world.
Well, one of the places over there, I think it's an Amsterdam
or the Netherlands over there somewhere, they decided to have
their moon rock validated and checked for insurance purposes
to get its value. So they had a scientist look at
it and come to find out it's a, it's not a rock at all.
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It was a piece of petrified wood.
So Bart points out at least one of your moon rocks that you
supposedly brought back are fake.
And so, you know, this Charlie Duke, he continues on to say,
well, you know, we, you know, wewent to the moon because we
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brought back moon rocks. He goes, I, I personally picked
up a couple £100 of moon rocks. So where do you think we got the
moon rocks from if we didn't go to the moon?
It's like, well, how do we know the moon rocks are real?
Well, I brought them back from the moon.
It's like, well, at least one place had theirs tested and then
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said to be fake. So why was theirs fake?
Well, I don't know. I don't know, 'cause I, I picked
him up right off the moon. I picked him up off the surface
of the moon, you know, and he's,he's got these stories, but he
doesn't recall anything technical.
Everything's like, I don't remember.
Of course he is 90, right? But so if you ask him anything,
you know, too in depth like theywere, I don't recall that.
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I don't know, I don't remember. But why are we having this
discussion? Well.
Because we're trying to determine if you went to the
moon. I went to the moon.
I've got moon rocks. I mean, I here's what I think
happened. I'll tell you in a second.
But anyway, so you know, every few minutes and the guy's like,
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what's the? Point of this discussion.
He can't. I don't know if he doesn't
remember or if that's a way of trying just to denial.
I'm not sure. So the astronaut goes on to say
that we have to accelerate to 25,000 miles an hour to get out
of Earth's atmosphere. OK, now 25,000 miles an hour.
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I've got videos of them testing like a rocket sled, like a
couple like 3000 miles an hour. And it's like, I mean, it goes
by you and it's, it's gone. It's like in the blink of an
eye, it's here and gone. And if you've ever watched just
Google it. Watch a space shuttle take off.
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It's going slow. It just and you can see with the
clouds. I mean you can verify by the
clouds. It's not moving very fast.
You you see a jet go through there.
It's like it's gone. This is like real slow and then
it starts turning, turning, turning, turning.
And then, you know, it finally goes out to the ocean is what it
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does. But they claim that it's that
that's 25,000 miles an hour. It's pretty obvious to tell that
it isn't. But anyway, so he says, you
know, we're we're having to accelerate 25,000 miles to get
out of this atmosphere. And then once we get out of the
atmosphere and we're headed to the moon, the gravity of the
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Earth is pulling us and slows usdown, down to 3000 miles an
hour. Like so in the Earth's
atmosphere where there is supposedly gravity, you're
traveling 25,000 miles an hour in the air.
OK, you know the air. But once you supposedly get out
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into outer space where there's avacuum, no wind resistance, no
air, no nothing, then somehow the Earth slows you down to
3000. I'm, I'm going to have to call
hogwash on that one. OK?
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Then he claims that about halfway to the moon, the the
moon's gravity starts sucking the spaceship to the moon, and
he says they have to turn the spaceship around backwards and
shoot the rocket off OK for 6 minutes to slow down, otherwise
they'll go all the way around the moon and go straight back
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home. That's a lot of gravity.
Think about that for a second. OK, think about that.
The moon, according to this astronaut who's been into outer
space right in, in his dreams, he says you get about halfway to
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the moon. And the gravity, the moon is so
strong it pulls the spaceship tothe moon.
And you know, supposedly the gravity of the moon is so great
it pulls the oceans up and that's how we get tides.
But it doesn't pull all oceans up.
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It seems like it it it only pulls up the great oceans, the
big ones, the ones that are all the way connected, but the
smaller ones, they don't have a tide at all.
The Great Lakes, which which areas big as some oceans, they
don't have a tide at all. Regular lakes, no tide, no tide
at all. Ponds, no tide.
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Swimming pools, no tide. Your coffee cup, no tide.
So you're telling me that the gravity of the moon is so
powerful, it pulls rocket ships to the moon, and it pulls oceans
up two or three feet all the wayhere on Earth, supposedly, But
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it doesn't affect lakes. It's not quite powerful enough
to pull the lake water up, but it can.
An ocean, a big one. Makes a lot of sense, don't it?
So yeah, there's a lot of fantasy going on with these
things. OK.
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So yeah. So yeah, 25,000 miles an hour.
But then somehow you slow down to 3000 and but then you speed
back up because of the moon. OK.
And, you know, they asked him all these detailed questions
about some stuff. He doesn't remember anything
hardly. He's old, right?
But he went to the moon. And then he'll stop you and say,
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what's the point of this discussion?
And then when they explain what they're saying, he'll say.
Well, I must have went to the moon I bought.
All the moon rocks back. I picked up a 25. # moon rock
myself. What about those moon rocks?
I picked up 200 lbs of moon rocks and one of them was 25
lbs. Like what did you ever, do you
ever see those moon rocks when you got back?
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Well, you know, I, they were in a, they were in a moon rock box,
a rock box and we weren't allowed to touch them anything
after that, you know, blah, blah, blah.
It's like, OK, well, somebody ended up giving one away and it
turned out to be fake. So then what they try to do is
they try to prove a chain of custody, say supposedly Neil
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Armstrong picked it up and then he brought it back.
And then NASA gave it to somebody and that person gave it
to the head honcho over here. Somewhere in the Netherlands,
they had it checked out and it'sfake.
So somewhere along in there, somebody slipped in a fake moon
rock, or they're all fake or younever went to the moon.
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How about that? So yeah, of course.
Then they go through the Van Allen radiation belts.
They go through all of that talking about how thick they are
and how, you know, we've got videos of Don Pettit talking
about trying to get through the Van Allen belts and another guy
talking about it and how we don't have the technology
anymore to get to the moon. You know, all of it was thrown
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away, but this guy here, he justsays, well, all I.
Know is I went to the moon, I went to the moon, I picked up
moon. Rocks.
Where? Where do you?
Think I got. Those moon rocks from so that I
mean, it's like a broken record.So then you know, he was asked
about why is it you think that like when Neil Armstrong and
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Buzz Aldrin and all them came back and they had their big
meeting, they all you know, they've got their heads down.
They won't hardly answer any questions.
One says he saw stars. The other says he didn't see any
stars. And, you know, and then they got
their head down. They're all real sad acting.
It's like, wouldn't you be really happy?
You're like the first man that ever walked on the moon.
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And now you're back and you're sitting on here.
You made it all the way back. And you're having a press
conference and it looks like, you know, your dog just died.
It looks like you're at a funeral.
And so this guy here, he's like,Oh yeah, you know, the moon and
stuff. It's just so great and all this
stuff and you want to spend moretime there.
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These guys got back and their whole attitudes were just
changed and he just did something to him mentally.
And, you know, Buzz became a outraging alcoholic and then
they got a divorce. And they're basically a lot of
spiral down into the alcohol, alcoholism, divorces, just you
name it. And you know, he relates that to
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the moon is just so wonderful down here, is just so
melancholy. You know, those are my words
that nothing compares to the moon right in outer space.
And for example, and this is where I was going with this
earlier, Neil Armstrong. Barsa Brill interviewed a bunch
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of people that knew Neil Armstrong before he went to the
moon, OK, and they said that he was a very laughable, lovable
guy. He was always a life of the
party. He played the piano.
People would gather around and he would sing and play the
piano. When he got back from this moon
trip, OK, they said he was like a completely different person.
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No more piano, no more interviews, no more life at the
party, completely secluded, justblah.
And of course, these others had other mental problems as well.
So here's what I think, OK. Oh, Charlie Duke here.
I mean, you watch the video, Youcan watch it.
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You have to pay to watch it all.He seems like an honest guy.
I mean, maybe he is telling the truth.
You know, he talks, he he repeats the same things over and
over and over like a script. OK, his proof is moon rocks.
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He doesn't remember anything else of any significance.
But his proof is in the moon rocks, even though at least one
is proven to be fake. But all he that doesn't look
like the moon rock he picked up,That's what he says.
So he didn't pick that one up. And so then when somebody
mentions Van Allen radiation belts, well, it didn't hurt him.
He don't know anything about it.So he I guess he should be dead
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then, but he's not. He clearly made it back with
moon rocks. So here's what I think.
Oh, a side note. One of the other things that was
mentioned is they're saying thatNASA, when you when you landed
either on the moon or back on Earth, before you can get out of
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the ship, they want you to go tosleep.
Take a nap. Just relax.
Relax, baby, relax. Hey, you just got to the moon,
Relax, take a nap, take a load off.
You just got home from the moon.Well, take you big boys.
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Just take yourselves a little nap, OK?
Don't worry, we'll wake you up you.
In fact, you'll be home in time for cornflakes.
OK, so think about this for a second.
You were in the military, which all these guys were.
They're supposedly pilots and test pilots, test piloting, top
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secret stuff. This guy here claims that when
he was in the military he had a top secret clearance.
Then he goes to some school likeHarvard or Yale.
OK, another spook type deal. OK you know whole bunch of
different cult type deals come out of there.
Like Skull and Bones gets involved in a space program
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which is clearly fake. Now, one of the things they have
to do is go to sleep. OK, How about this maybe, Oh,
Charlie Duke here, maybe he really believes what he's
saying. Maybe because, you know, what
other program was going along right along that same time as
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Apollo? It's a little program called MK
Ultra, where the CIA and others were experience were
experimenting with mind control,you know, with the Manchurian
Candidates. If you've never heard of that,
watch the movie, OK. And for example, in the movie
Manchurian Candidate, you know, they've got whatever his actor,
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big popular actor, he starts remembering, but it kind of goes
back and it shows you they've got all these military guys
sitting in a room and they feed him certain kinds of drugs that
does something to their mind. And they sit him down in a chair
and they play in these videos and they keep telling him this
stuff over and over and over. And this is what you did.
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This is what happened and by thetime it's all said and done,
they're like and so then years later they go to one of these
guys and they ask him what happened.
Oh, this, this, this and this sounds great.
They ask another guy what happened.
This, this, this and this exact same story.
Everybody they ask has got the same exact story.
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They all have the exact same details, but they can't remember
anything else. I'm starting to think some, you
know, maybe, maybe all, maybe these, maybe these astronauts,
OK, maybe they stuck them in a room somewhere and played them
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films, fake films of the moon and said, look, this is you.
You did that. You're walking on the moon.
You did this, you know, you did that, you know, what's that?
Something, you know, ground control to Major Tom, right?
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You know, Houston, we have a problem.
OK, Remember all that. Now go back to sleep and when
you wake up, you tell everybody that's exactly what happened,
OK? And then periodically we'll come
back and we'll say we'll get youin another room 'cause you know,
hey, you've got this top secret clearance and you've got, you
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know, so you need to come in every once in a while.
We need to kind of brief you again or debrief you.
Come on back in, take a, take a little nap.
Here you go. Go to sleep.
Now remember this, this, this and this.
All the other stuff he forgot that's technical.
Hey, somebody else did all that.All I know is this.
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So possibly this guy was an MK Ultra victim and he honestly
believes he went to the moon. He believes he picked up a 25 LB
rock and he picked up another 175 lbs of rocks because he says
he picked up 200 lbs of rocks. Maybe he believes it.
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And then as this, as this interview goes on, he kind of
glitches and he's like, what arewe doing here?
Again? What is the point of this
discussion? And he has to be reminded, oh,
oh, well, I went to the moon. Oh, I went to the moon.
I brought back the moon rocks and so it's like a broken record
through the whole entire thing and he I get maybe that's what
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it is. Maybe that's why O'Neill
Armstrong was a changed man supposedly.
You know, allegedly he go he before he goes he's he's happy
go lucky type guy after he gets his MK Ultra mind control
plugged in, then he comes back like a drone.
It's like, yes, I went to the moon.
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No, I didn't see any stars. Will you do an interview?
No, I don't do interviews other than that.
Have a nice day, you know, and then just disappear.
I don't know. That's what I think.
I think either these guys are devil liars.
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They're liars. They've been lying.
They were told to lie. Maybe they were threatened, you
know, maybe they were threatenedas well and said, hey, if you
don't tell these lies, we're going to kill you, kill your
family. That's why they look so
depressed and that's why they became Alcoholics.
That's why they got divorced. Just you name it, because
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they're being forced to tell a lie.
This guy here, I know he didn't,he didn't really act like he was
that way. So maybe he's maybe he by that
time because he was the 10th person on the moon, right?
Versus the other one was the first guy in the moon maybe by
the time they got up to the 10thtime, they had the MK Ultra deal
seamless and just just programmed them in a in a dark
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room somewhere and they come outsaying yeah, Oh yeah.
And they believe it. Maybe let's see here.
Yeah, that's, that's just about all the, all the notes that I
have on that. So it's a really interesting,
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interesting podcast, I think because I personally have talked
to Bart Sabrel, like I said, butmost of these people on here,
they they can't stand O Bart because he's questioning the
moon. And even if you're not a Flat
Earth guy, OK, a Flat Earth person, you still believe we
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went to the moon. I didn't know anybody to believe
that anymore. Even Joe Rogan even talks about
not going to the moon. He doesn't believe it.
I mean, but there are literally hundreds of people commenting on
this thing. They believe it hook, line and
sinker. They believe anything NASA says.
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And I mean anything. It's funny.
I'm I mean, it's sad in the factthat people are so stupid.
You know, you show some monkey suit jumping around up there.
You can see the wires, astronauts hanging from wires in
one. You can see a guy in the
background, you know, and he ducks down because you know,
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they're looking at a model. These are models.
OK, Everything about it's fake, but hey, you still have those
people out there that are die hard.
How dare you say we didn't go tothe moon?
You know, they weren't even alive back then.
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How dare you say it? You know.
It's the truth. It's God's truth.
And it's like it's called propaganda, OK, Hollywood
propaganda. And you fell for it.
And I understand. So did I, You know, I fell for
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the whole spinning water ball inouter space traveling at 66,600
miles an hour according to NASA.You know I believed it too, till
one day I woke up and was like, man, you know when Nasha sure
likes the number 666 an awful lot.
I wonder why? Oh, just a coincidence, boys and
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girls, just a coincidence. It's a total coincidence that a
institution, OK, I I dare I say scientific institution because
there's no science involved. A scientific institution, A
Satanic institution would alwaysuse the number 666 on
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everything. And a Christian will look at it
and go, huh, Wow, Founded by atheists, huh?
Yeah. Devil worshiping.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Get naked and worshiping the devil and praying to demons.
Oh, yeah. What are we asking the demons
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for? Oh, you know, shows how to build
rockets. That's scientific right there.
But OK. OK.
What's their favorite number? 666 on everything.
Oh, yeah, Everything. Everything that they faked.
They put A-666-ON it. I believe it.
Oh, I believe it's in. I I I want to believe it.
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It's like, do you? Don't you think that's a little
odd? Yeah.
Why? Well, I'm too brainwashed.
I'm too brainwashed to think about anything like that.
OK. I've got to get that football
game on. I've got to watch a grown man in
tights. That's what I've got to do.
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I have to do it. I have to know everything about
it. That is important.
Oh, and then I need to binge watch something on Netflix so I
don't have time to think about the shape of the Earth or
anything else for that matter. All I have time to think about
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is whatever is on the TV, television.
It tells me a vision. It teleports it right into my
brain. Television.
So that's, that's what they're all concerned with.
So, you know, are any of those people ever even going to watch
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this interview? Probably not.
But however, I would love to getBart Sabrel back on here again
with video this time. Of course, he's not going to
come here. But he I think he lives in
Thailand maybe. I can't even remember.
I'll have to, I'll have to look back.
And last time I talked to him, his Internet connection was
(33:16):
horrible. And so we had to do we had to do
voice only because his video wouldn't keep up as I mean, he
isn't a third world country, youknow what I mean?
I mean, I'm surprised he has Internet at all.
But anyway, having said all that, it's an interesting one.
I've never that one of the things I don't like about this
(33:38):
Danny Jones podcast is, hey, if you want to watch it, you have
to pay for it. You ain't getting nothing for
free. So everything is all about the
mighty dollar. You will have to pay for it to
hear it. I put my stuff out there for
free, OK, If if you want to makea donation, great.
(33:59):
If you want to watch it for free, great.
OK, I'm not asking. I'm not forcing people to pay
for anything. So anyway, but you know, these
guys are, I guess that's how they make their living.
I guess they set around they must because he's got all kinds
of big popular people on there all the time.
I don't know how they do it. I guess they do it.
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Of course, you know, we have a different level of podcast too.
I mean, mine is mine is a truther conspiracy.
I guess you'd say religious, spiritual Bible believing
podcast where his podcast is allabout, you know, I mean, most of
them, most of his guests on there are cussing like sailors.
(34:47):
You know, they, they say the F word and they take the Lord's
name in vain more times than I can count.
So of course they're going to bepopular because the devil wants
them popular. Of course he does.
It's a lot of it's vile filth. So of course you're going to
have everybody and their dog tune into it because of this
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tickling their ears. They're itching ears.
They're getting exactly what they're paying for, too.
Yeah. And that's why majority of the
people on here are so lost. You know, they're rooting for A
and, you know, for the atheist organization, NASA, that's who
they're rooting for. That's who we believe.
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You know, you mentioned God on any of this stuff.
They'll just laugh you off of it.
They're like, hell, you're an idiot.
You're a blooming idiot. How dare you mention something
like that? So you know, anyway, yeah, so
that's what we're left with on that one.
Let's see here. I think that's it for today.
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Hello, this is Kenny Williamson and welcome back to another
episode of Makila Zdek Chronicles.
It's been a few days since we had another podcast or a podcast
come out. So I thought it was about high
time we did another one. In this particular one I'm
talking about, I've been watching, I, I follow a guy on
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his e-mail list named Bart Sabrel.
If you've never heard of him, heis a guy who he's a moon landing
denier, OK. And I thought he was really
interesting a long time ago because I've, I've never
believed we went to the moon. OK, But before I became a
biblical cosmologist or a flat earther as some would say, you
(01:11):
know, I thought, I thought Bart was right on.
Because what he does is he takesall of science of our so-called
fake science and he uses it against the people that are
doing it to prove that we didn'tgo to the moon.
Well, I mean, I I think he's right on.
The problem is, is he's using their science against them and
(01:35):
their science in my opinion is fake.
So I don't believe we can get past the firmament.
OK, so we're not going into outer space and never have.
So it's a really interesting video because he'd sent out some
stuff on it saying that he was he lives off in another country
and he had to come back to the US, United States here to be on
(01:57):
this podcast. Well, the podcast is a called
the Danny Jones podcast. OK, I'm not, I mean, I it's all
right. I'm not a big fan because I mean
this the guy that runs it, you know, he's kind of like, he
seems very he he doesn't seem toknow much about anything.
(02:19):
It's always these really dumb questions and he's he's very
opinionated, but doesn't know anything.
So anyway, so he manages somehowthough, to get Bart Sabrel on
his podcast along with an ex astronaut named Charlie Duke.
OK, I've interviewed a couple oftimes Bart Sabrel on this
(02:42):
podcast and Windows audio only. So I've talked to Bart a couple
times. I've talked to him on the phone
and you know, he he doesn't wantto have anything to do with Flat
Earth. OK, He's, he believes in outer
space. He believes it all, except he
doesn't believe we went to the moon.
So I think he's he's just barelyscratching the surface.
(03:07):
OK. But I thought this was pretty
interesting because I was reading through lots of the
comments of all the people that had watched this video and, you
know, it's pretty, it's pretty obvious that 99% of the people
out there are completely, totally lost.
(03:27):
That's pretty obvious. And so they're, they're mad at
Bart and they're mad at this Danny Jones guy for having this
astronaut on, because this astronaut, he supposedly, let's
see here, he supposedly walked on the moon.
He's supposedly the 10th person to walk on the moon.
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And he did this when he was in Apollo 16, the Apollo 16
program. He is now 90 years old.
So he came on and he was talkingall about it.
Well, you know, they're asking him questions and he doesn't
have any answers to any of them,most of them.
And so all the people are mad saying, you know, how dare you
(04:09):
put a man like that. You know, he's, he's a brave
American hero. You know, he's, he's just, you
know, 'cause these people, of course, they think football
players are brave American heroes, right?
I mean, they think Hollywood movie stars are brave and
they're American heroes and they're fighting for us.
(04:33):
No, they're not. They're devils, they're liars.
And it's Hollywood, OK, But mostof these people around here are
so lost, they don't have a clue.So they're really attacking Bart
Sabrel in, you know, in the comments, You know, how dare you
say this to a, a national hero. This guy's a national treasure
(04:54):
in their eyes. So what we have, in my opinion,
is we have a guy up there who claims he walked on the moon,
which I don't believe that he did.
He's been claiming this for 50-6years.
And because he's claiming it andyou can go on Cartoon Network
(05:14):
and see it that he's a, he's a national treasure.
He's a hero or he's a liar and adevil.
I don't know. He may be telling the truth in
his own mind and we'll talk about that in a second.
But some of these other so-called astronauts, you know
that Bart Sabrel tried to interview one of them being Neil
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Armstrong. You know they won't, they won't
even say they went to the moon. He he's like, hey, swear on the
Bible you went to the moon. They're like Nah.
And the 1 old Buzz Aldrin, you know, he went up to him and Buzz
Aldrin punched him. And that's, I think that's one
of his movies called Astronauts Gone Wild.
Pretty interesting. You can see all that by the way,
(05:58):
Astronauts Gone Wild and a funnything happened on the way to the
moon. You can watch those videos for
free on his website and his website, issabrel.com, if you
want to go check that out. I think it's interesting.
It's really, it's really, reallyinteresting to me.
It's comical. It's comical to me because Bart
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believes we went that we did notgo to the moon, but he believes
in outer space. He does not believe biblical
cosmology whatsoever. And so he's arguing with people
who claimed to have went to space, which I don't believe
they did either. And they've got all these
excuses and all these things andit, it's unbelievable.
It's comical to me. And the other thing is comical,
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seems to me like is, you know, like I said, he, he believes
everything that NASA says exceptthat we went to the moon.
OK, so they start talking about Van Allen radiation belts that
are way out there. OK, Cuz a guy named Van Allen
discovered these belts of radiation supposedly deep in
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outer space. But supposedly you would have to
go through these belts to get tothe moon, right?
So you've got modern day astronauts, if you will.
You've got them all over online.You can Google this.
They're saying, you know, we can't get go back to the moon
(07:25):
until we figure out how to get through this region of space.
This Van Allen radiation is so high that a person can't survive
going through it. And we have to figure this out
before we can get people into deep space.
This is something we have to figure out.
But they're like, well, didn't you figure this out back in
1969? I mean, you, you, you, you sent
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people to the moon five times. Supposedly you went right
through them. And so, you know, so Bart asks
Charlie Duke here, this old astronaut.
Well, how did you get through it?
He goes, well, I don't know anything about it.
You've never heard of the Van Allen radiation melts.
Oh, yeah, Yeah, I've heard of them.
But, you know, we just went. We just went right through it.
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And it's like, well, they claim they're 30,000 miles long.
How fast were you going? Oh, well, we were going, you
know, 20,000 miles an hour. OK, so it took you about an hour
and a half to get through them. According to the they claim
they're so strong because they've sent spaceships into it.
(08:27):
See, that you'd never survive. It would just kill you.
It'd be like getting an X-ray for an hour and a half straight.
It would literally fry you. And so, you know, they're
arguing back and forth about this stuff.
So I don't believe the Van Allenradiation belts exist.
I think they're fake. Space is fake.
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You can't get past the firmament.
That's what I believe. But these guys here, they
believe you can. And one of these limiting
factors is these Van Allen radiation belts.
So, you know, Bart is talking about the length and the speed
and Charlie Duke comes in and hesays, hey, you know, I didn't
feel a thing. And so then, you know, Bart's
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like, well, of course you didn'tbecause you didn't go through
them. You you lied.
Oh no, I. Didn't I went to the moon?
I went to the moon. That's all.
You know, he repeats that several times.
The other thing that's funny in this in this video is another
thing this this Charlie Duke keeps repeating.
Is he like they'll they'll be talking about something like a
segment like let's talk about the Van Van Allen radiation
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belts Somewhere through this, this guy, he stops and he's
like, what exactly is the point of this discussion?
And so then Danny here, he well,here's what we're trying to do.
We're trying to do, you know, take blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah. So what are you saying?
I didn't go to the moon? Well, that's the consensus.
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That's what bar here is trying to say you know well.
I went. I went to the moon.
OK. So then they go to another
segment. OK, let's talk about, you know,
whatever else. The moon rocks.
What's the point of this discussion?
Well, we're trying to determine if the moon rocks are real
because, you know, you supposedly brought back moon
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rocks. These moon rocks were
distributed to people all over the world.
Well, one of the places over there, I think it's an Amsterdam
or the Netherlands over there somewhere, they decided to have
their moon rock validated and checked for insurance purposes
to get its value. So they had a scientist look at
it and come to find out it's a, it's not a rock at all.
(10:39):
It was a piece of petrified wood.
So Bart points out at least one of your moon rocks that you
supposedly brought back are fake.
And so, you know, this Charlie Duke, he continues on to say,
well, you know, we, you know, wewent to the moon because we
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brought back moon rocks. He goes, I, I personally picked
up a couple £100 of moon rocks. So where do you think we got the
moon rocks from if we didn't go to the moon?
It's like, well, how do we know the moon rocks are real?
Well, I brought them back from the moon.
It's like, well, at least one place had theirs tested and then
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said to be fake. So why was theirs fake?
Well, I don't know. I don't know, 'cause I, I picked
him up right off the moon. I picked him up off the surface
of the moon, you know, and he's,he's got these stories, but he
doesn't recall anything technical.
Everything's like, I don't remember.
Of course he is 90, right? But so if you ask him anything,
you know, too in depth like theywere, I don't recall that.
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I don't know, I don't remember. But why are we having this
discussion? Well.
Because we're trying to determine if you went to the
moon. I went to the moon.
I've got moon rocks. I mean, I here's what I think
happened. I'll tell you in a second.
But anyway, so you know, every few minutes and the guy's like,
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what's the? Point of this discussion.
He can't. I don't know if he doesn't
remember or if that's a way of trying just to denial.
I'm not sure. So the astronaut goes on to say
that we have to accelerate to 25,000 miles an hour to get out
of Earth's atmosphere. OK, now 25,000 miles an hour.
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I've got videos of them testing like a rocket sled, like a
couple like 3000 miles an hour. And it's like, I mean, it goes
by you and it's, it's gone. It's like in the blink of an
eye, it's here and gone. And if you've ever watched just
Google it. Watch a space shuttle take off.
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It's going slow. It just and you can see with the
clouds. I mean you can verify by the
clouds. It's not moving very fast.
You you see a jet go through there.
It's like it's gone. This is like real slow and then
it starts turning, turning, turning, turning.
And then, you know, it finally goes out to the ocean is what it
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does. But they claim that it's that
that's 25,000 miles an hour. It's pretty obvious to tell that
it isn't. But anyway, so he says, you
know, we're we're having to accelerate 25,000 miles to get
out of this atmosphere. And then once we get out of the
atmosphere and we're headed to the moon, the gravity of the
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Earth is pulling us and slows usdown, down to 3000 miles an
hour. Like so in the Earth's
atmosphere where there is supposedly gravity, you're
traveling 25,000 miles an hour in the air.
OK, you know the air. But once you supposedly get out
(14:02):
into outer space where there's avacuum, no wind resistance, no
air, no nothing, then somehow the Earth slows you down to
3000. I'm, I'm going to have to call
hogwash on that one. OK?
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Then he claims that about halfway to the moon, the the
moon's gravity starts sucking the spaceship to the moon, and
he says they have to turn the spaceship around backwards and
shoot the rocket off OK for 6 minutes to slow down, otherwise
they'll go all the way around the moon and go straight back
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home. That's a lot of gravity.
Think about that for a second. OK, think about that.
The moon, according to this astronaut who's been into outer
space right in, in his dreams, he says you get about halfway to
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the moon. And the gravity, the moon is so
strong it pulls the spaceship tothe moon.
And you know, supposedly the gravity of the moon is so great
it pulls the oceans up and that's how we get tides.
But it doesn't pull all oceans up.
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It seems like it it it only pulls up the great oceans, the
big ones, the ones that are all the way connected, but the
smaller ones, they don't have a tide at all.
The Great Lakes, which which areas big as some oceans, they
don't have a tide at all. Regular lakes, no tide, no tide
at all. Ponds, no tide.
(15:49):
Swimming pools, no tide. Your coffee cup, no tide.
So you're telling me that the gravity of the moon is so
powerful, it pulls rocket ships to the moon, and it pulls oceans
up two or three feet all the wayhere on Earth, supposedly, But
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it doesn't affect lakes. It's not quite powerful enough
to pull the lake water up, but it can.
An ocean, a big one. Makes a lot of sense, don't it?
So yeah, there's a lot of fantasy going on with these
things. OK.
(16:31):
So yeah. So yeah, 25,000 miles an hour.
But then somehow you slow down to 3000 and but then you speed
back up because of the moon. OK.
And, you know, they asked him all these detailed questions
about some stuff. He doesn't remember anything
hardly. He's old, right?
But he went to the moon. And then he'll stop you and say,
(16:53):
what's the point of this discussion?
And then when they explain what they're saying, he'll say.
Well, I must have went to the moon I bought.
All the moon rocks back. I picked up a 25. # moon rock
myself. What about those moon rocks?
I picked up 200 lbs of moon rocks and one of them was 25
lbs. Like what did you ever, do you
ever see those moon rocks when you got back?
(17:14):
Well, you know, I, they were in a, they were in a moon rock box,
a rock box and we weren't allowed to touch them anything
after that, you know, blah, blah, blah.
It's like, OK, well, somebody ended up giving one away and it
turned out to be fake. So then what they try to do is
they try to prove a chain of custody, say supposedly Neil
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Armstrong picked it up and then he brought it back.
And then NASA gave it to somebody and that person gave it
to the head honcho over here. Somewhere in the Netherlands,
they had it checked out and it'sfake.
So somewhere along in there, somebody slipped in a fake moon
rock, or they're all fake or younever went to the moon.
(17:59):
How about that? So yeah, of course.
Then they go through the Van Allen radiation belts.
They go through all of that talking about how thick they are
and how, you know, we've got videos of Don Pettit talking
about trying to get through the Van Allen belts and another guy
talking about it and how we don't have the technology
anymore to get to the moon. You know, all of it was thrown
(18:23):
away, but this guy here, he justsays, well, all I.
Know is I went to the moon, I went to the moon, I picked up
moon. Rocks.
Where? Where do you?
Think I got. Those moon rocks from so that I
mean, it's like a broken record.So then you know, he was asked
about why is it you think that like when Neil Armstrong and
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Buzz Aldrin and all them came back and they had their big
meeting, they all you know, they've got their heads down.
They won't hardly answer any questions.
One says he saw stars. The other says he didn't see any
stars. And, you know, and then they got
their head down. They're all real sad acting.
It's like, wouldn't you be really happy?
You're like the first man that ever walked on the moon.
(19:06):
And now you're back and you're sitting on here.
You made it all the way back. And you're having a press
conference and it looks like, you know, your dog just died.
It looks like you're at a funeral.
And so this guy here, he's like,Oh yeah, you know, the moon and
stuff. It's just so great and all this
stuff and you want to spend moretime there.
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These guys got back and their whole attitudes were just
changed and he just did something to him mentally.
And, you know, Buzz became a outraging alcoholic and then
they got a divorce. And they're basically a lot of
spiral down into the alcohol, alcoholism, divorces, just you
name it. And you know, he relates that to
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the moon is just so wonderful down here, is just so
melancholy. You know, those are my words
that nothing compares to the moon right in outer space.
And for example, and this is where I was going with this
earlier, Neil Armstrong. Barsa Brill interviewed a bunch
(20:12):
of people that knew Neil Armstrong before he went to the
moon, OK, and they said that he was a very laughable, lovable
guy. He was always a life of the
party. He played the piano.
People would gather around and he would sing and play the
piano. When he got back from this moon
trip, OK, they said he was like a completely different person.
(20:36):
No more piano, no more interviews, no more life at the
party, completely secluded, justblah.
And of course, these others had other mental problems as well.
So here's what I think, OK. Oh, Charlie Duke here.
I mean, you watch the video, Youcan watch it.
(20:56):
You have to pay to watch it all.He seems like an honest guy.
I mean, maybe he is telling the truth.
You know, he talks, he he repeats the same things over and
over and over like a script. OK, his proof is moon rocks.
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He doesn't remember anything else of any significance.
But his proof is in the moon rocks, even though at least one
is proven to be fake. But all he that doesn't look
like the moon rock he picked up,That's what he says.
So he didn't pick that one up. And so then when somebody
mentions Van Allen radiation belts, well, it didn't hurt him.
He don't know anything about it.So he I guess he should be dead
(21:39):
then, but he's not. He clearly made it back with
moon rocks. So here's what I think.
Oh, a side note. One of the other things that was
mentioned is they're saying thatNASA, when you when you landed
either on the moon or back on Earth, before you can get out of
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the ship, they want you to go tosleep.
Take a nap. Just relax.
Relax, baby, relax. Hey, you just got to the moon,
Relax, take a nap, take a load off.
You just got home from the moon.Well, take you big boys.
(22:26):
Just take yourselves a little nap, OK?
Don't worry, we'll wake you up you.
In fact, you'll be home in time for cornflakes.
OK, so think about this for a second.
You were in the military, which all these guys were.
They're supposedly pilots and test pilots, test piloting, top
(22:49):
secret stuff. This guy here claims that when
he was in the military he had a top secret clearance.
Then he goes to some school likeHarvard or Yale.
OK, another spook type deal. OK you know whole bunch of
different cult type deals come out of there.
Like Skull and Bones gets involved in a space program
(23:13):
which is clearly fake. Now, one of the things they have
to do is go to sleep. OK, How about this maybe, Oh,
Charlie Duke here, maybe he really believes what he's
saying. Maybe because, you know, what
other program was going along right along that same time as
(23:35):
Apollo? It's a little program called MK
Ultra, where the CIA and others were experience were
experimenting with mind control,you know, with the Manchurian
Candidates. If you've never heard of that,
watch the movie, OK. And for example, in the movie
Manchurian Candidate, you know, they've got whatever his actor,
(23:59):
big popular actor, he starts remembering, but it kind of goes
back and it shows you they've got all these military guys
sitting in a room and they feed him certain kinds of drugs that
does something to their mind. And they sit him down in a chair
and they play in these videos and they keep telling him this
stuff over and over and over. And this is what you did.
(24:20):
This is what happened and by thetime it's all said and done,
they're like and so then years later they go to one of these
guys and they ask him what happened.
Oh, this, this, this and this sounds great.
They ask another guy what happened.
This, this, this and this exact same story.
Everybody they ask has got the same exact story.
(24:42):
They all have the exact same details, but they can't remember
anything else. I'm starting to think some, you
know, maybe, maybe all, maybe these, maybe these astronauts,
OK, maybe they stuck them in a room somewhere and played them
(25:04):
films, fake films of the moon and said, look, this is you.
You did that. You're walking on the moon.
You did this, you know, you did that, you know, what's that?
Something, you know, ground control to Major Tom, right?
(25:25):
You know, Houston, we have a problem.
OK, Remember all that. Now go back to sleep and when
you wake up, you tell everybody that's exactly what happened,
OK? And then periodically we'll come
back and we'll say we'll get youin another room 'cause you know,
hey, you've got this top secret clearance and you've got, you
(25:46):
know, so you need to come in every once in a while.
We need to kind of brief you again or debrief you.
Come on back in, take a, take a little nap.
Here you go. Go to sleep.
Now remember this, this, this and this.
All the other stuff he forgot that's technical.
Hey, somebody else did all that.All I know is this.
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So possibly this guy was an MK Ultra victim and he honestly
believes he went to the moon. He believes he picked up a 25 LB
rock and he picked up another 175 lbs of rocks because he says
he picked up 200 lbs of rocks. Maybe he believes it.
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And then as this, as this interview goes on, he kind of
glitches and he's like, what arewe doing here?
Again? What is the point of this
discussion? And he has to be reminded, oh,
oh, well, I went to the moon. Oh, I went to the moon.
I brought back the moon rocks and so it's like a broken record
through the whole entire thing and he I get maybe that's what
(26:50):
it is. Maybe that's why O'Neill
Armstrong was a changed man supposedly.
You know, allegedly he go he before he goes he's he's happy
go lucky type guy after he gets his MK Ultra mind control
plugged in, then he comes back like a drone.
It's like, yes, I went to the moon.
(27:10):
No, I didn't see any stars. Will you do an interview?
No, I don't do interviews other than that.
Have a nice day, you know, and then just disappear.
I don't know. That's what I think.
I think either these guys are devil liars.
(27:31):
They're liars. They've been lying.
They were told to lie. Maybe they were threatened, you
know, maybe they were threatenedas well and said, hey, if you
don't tell these lies, we're going to kill you, kill your
family. That's why they look so
depressed and that's why they became Alcoholics.
That's why they got divorced. Just you name it, because
(27:52):
they're being forced to tell a lie.
This guy here, I know he didn't,he didn't really act like he was
that way. So maybe he's maybe he by that
time because he was the 10th person on the moon, right?
Versus the other one was the first guy in the moon maybe by
the time they got up to the 10thtime, they had the MK Ultra deal
seamless and just just programmed them in a in a dark
(28:13):
room somewhere and they come outsaying yeah, Oh yeah.
And they believe it. Maybe let's see here.
Yeah, that's, that's just about all the, all the notes that I
have on that. So it's a really interesting,
(28:33):
interesting podcast, I think because I personally have talked
to Bart Sabrel, like I said, butmost of these people on here,
they they can't stand O Bart because he's questioning the
moon. And even if you're not a Flat
Earth guy, OK, a Flat Earth person, you still believe we
(28:56):
went to the moon. I didn't know anybody to believe
that anymore. Even Joe Rogan even talks about
not going to the moon. He doesn't believe it.
I mean, but there are literally hundreds of people commenting on
this thing. They believe it hook, line and
sinker. They believe anything NASA says.
(29:18):
And I mean anything. It's funny.
I'm I mean, it's sad in the factthat people are so stupid.
You know, you show some monkey suit jumping around up there.
You can see the wires, astronauts hanging from wires in
one. You can see a guy in the
background, you know, and he ducks down because you know,
(29:41):
they're looking at a model. These are models.
OK, Everything about it's fake, but hey, you still have those
people out there that are die hard.
How dare you say we didn't go tothe moon?
You know, they weren't even alive back then.
(30:01):
How dare you say it? You know.
It's the truth. It's God's truth.
And it's like it's called propaganda, OK, Hollywood
propaganda. And you fell for it.
And I understand. So did I, You know, I fell for
(30:22):
the whole spinning water ball inouter space traveling at 66,600
miles an hour according to NASA.You know I believed it too, till
one day I woke up and was like, man, you know when Nasha sure
likes the number 666 an awful lot.
I wonder why? Oh, just a coincidence, boys and
(30:45):
girls, just a coincidence. It's a total coincidence that a
institution, OK, I I dare I say scientific institution because
there's no science involved. A scientific institution, A
Satanic institution would alwaysuse the number 666 on
(31:11):
everything. And a Christian will look at it
and go, huh, Wow, Founded by atheists, huh?
Yeah. Devil worshiping.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Get naked and worshiping the devil and praying to demons.
Oh, yeah. What are we asking the demons
(31:32):
for? Oh, you know, shows how to build
rockets. That's scientific right there.
But OK. OK.
What's their favorite number? 666 on everything.
Oh, yeah, Everything. Everything that they faked.
They put A-666-ON it. I believe it.
Oh, I believe it's in. I I I want to believe it.
(31:52):
It's like, do you? Don't you think that's a little
odd? Yeah.
Why? Well, I'm too brainwashed.
I'm too brainwashed to think about anything like that.
OK. I've got to get that football
game on. I've got to watch a grown man in
tights. That's what I've got to do.
(32:13):
I have to do it. I have to know everything about
it. That is important.
Oh, and then I need to binge watch something on Netflix so I
don't have time to think about the shape of the Earth or
anything else for that matter. All I have time to think about
(32:34):
is whatever is on the TV, television.
It tells me a vision. It teleports it right into my
brain. Television.
So that's, that's what they're all concerned with.
So, you know, are any of those people ever even going to watch
(32:54):
this interview? Probably not.
But however, I would love to getBart Sabrel back on here again
with video this time. Of course, he's not going to
come here. But he I think he lives in
Thailand maybe. I can't even remember.
I'll have to, I'll have to look back.
And last time I talked to him, his Internet connection was
(33:16):
horrible. And so we had to do we had to do
voice only because his video wouldn't keep up as I mean, he
isn't a third world country, youknow what I mean?
I mean, I'm surprised he has Internet at all.
But anyway, having said all that, it's an interesting one.
I've never that one of the things I don't like about this
(33:38):
Danny Jones podcast is, hey, if you want to watch it, you have
to pay for it. You ain't getting nothing for
free. So everything is all about the
mighty dollar. You will have to pay for it to
hear it. I put my stuff out there for
free, OK, If if you want to makea donation, great.
(33:59):
If you want to watch it for free, great.
OK, I'm not asking. I'm not forcing people to pay
for anything. So anyway, but you know, these
guys are, I guess that's how they make their living.
I guess they set around they must because he's got all kinds
of big popular people on there all the time.
I don't know how they do it. I guess they do it.
(34:23):
Of course, you know, we have a different level of podcast too.
I mean, mine is mine is a truther conspiracy.
I guess you'd say religious, spiritual Bible believing
podcast where his podcast is allabout, you know, I mean, most of
them, most of his guests on there are cussing like sailors.
(34:47):
You know, they, they say the F word and they take the Lord's
name in vain more times than I can count.
So of course they're going to bepopular because the devil wants
them popular. Of course he does.
It's a lot of it's vile filth. So of course you're going to
have everybody and their dog tune into it because of this
(35:10):
tickling their ears. They're itching ears.
They're getting exactly what they're paying for, too.
Yeah. And that's why majority of the
people on here are so lost. You know, they're rooting for A
and, you know, for the atheist organization, NASA, that's who
they're rooting for. That's who we believe.
(35:33):
You know, you mentioned God on any of this stuff.
They'll just laugh you off of it.
They're like, hell, you're an idiot.
You're a blooming idiot. How dare you mention something
like that? So you know, anyway, yeah, so
that's what we're left with on that one.
Let's see here. I think that's it for today.
(35:55):
Let me get this back over here. Any questions, comments,
concerns, go to. Hey, you can e-mail me
truthseekers2012@gmail.com. You can head on over to our
website itsflatbro.com or Truth Seekers ministry.org or
(36:21):
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time. Thanks for listening.
I hope you had a happy Thanksgiving.
(37:06):
It's pretty cold out here today.It's not snowing or anything,
but they said it could. So down here in Arkansas.
Hey, thanks for listening. And as always, you know, which I
try to tell people this, if if you're not saved right now, you
need to get saved before it's too late.
OK? You're just one heartbeat away.
(37:29):
OK? I know people that are like, oh,
blah, blah. It did the next day, boy.
I mean, just that quick. So anyway, based on all the
chemtrails and everything they're spraying around here, I
know lots of people that got sick all at the same time.
So coincidence again, right? Thanks for listening.
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Please tune back in again. We're going to keep the podcast
coming until we meet again. God bless you.
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