December 19, 2025 • 48 mins
In this episode, I talk about the Omega Speedmaster wristwatch, the first watch allegedly to have been on the moon. I also cover moon rocks and moon dust.
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Hello, this is Kenny Williamson and welcome back to another
episode of Mckills Death Chronicles.
Today I wanted to talk a little bit about a subject that I'm
interested in. Of course, I'm interested in
lots of things. This is just one of the many,
and that is wristwatches. I've always liked wristwatches.
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I've always liked clocks. It's just something I've always
been into. If you watch and have been
watching my episodes, which lotsof you have, I talk a lot with
my hands. I have to move my hands a lot to
speak, apparently. That's what I've been told.
I've been told several times arelike, you know, you couldn't
even speak if you didn't move your hands.
If your hands were tied behind your back, you couldn't even
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speak. That's probably the case.
However, if you've seen seen thevideos and me moving my hands
around like I do, you probably noticed that I do wear a
wristwatch lots of the time. This is an automatic wristwatch
that I bought 1012 years ago in Tulsa, OK when I used to work
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over there. And it's an Omega.
If this was called an Omega planet Ocean and there's and,
and you may not have even heard of an Omega.
Some people have, some people haven't.
It's it's not a Rolex, it's an Omega.
But what I wanted to talk about with this Omega, which I thought
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was interesting. You see, I pay attention and I
watch these different watch shows and you know, they sell
Omegas and they work on them andRolexes and everything else,
every kind you can imagine, really expensive ones.
This is not that expensive, so it's interesting.
So what I wanted to tell you about this one is I think it's a
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funny story is also if you've been following the channel.
If not, that's fine. But if you have, you know that
it was, I think it was in October, I went to Dallas, TX to
a thing called Truther con, Truther con 2025.
Now, in that particular little thing that I went to is two or
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three days long, you know, they had all these different
speakers, Flat Earth, Dave was there.
Wits it gets it was there. It's a whole bunch of guys that
are into that kind of stuff was there.
And me, of course, I'm a truth seeker, so I was there.
So on the way back, I'm sitting at the airport and a guy sits
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next to me because we're waitingon the flight.
And his flight actually left before mine did.
And he was looking around and I'm just sitting here, you know,
like this. And my arms crossed, got my hand
on my bag. And he says, excuse me, Sir.
I said, yeah. He's like, is that, is that an
Omega watch you're wearing? And I'm like, yes, yes, it is.
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And So what model is that? I said, it's called a Seamaster
Planet Ocean. He asked if he could see it.
And he'd been sitting there a while, so I didn't figure he was
going to take off with it. So I took it off and I handed it
to him and he's like, yeah, I really like this watch.
I've been thinking about buying what he called a big boy watch.
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He said, I'm I'm wanting to get either an Omega or a Rolex or he
named off several others that I can't even pronounce the names
and I've never even heard of. And he said, yeah, I really, I
really, really like the omegas, he said.
However, he said I've got one reason I was going to get an
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Omega. He said, now I don't think I
want to know me anymore. I'm I'm not going to get one.
I don't like him anymore. And so why is that?
He said, well, it all has to do with their moon watch.
And I was like, of course, you know me, right?
I mean, you don't, you know, I'ma conspiracy theorist,
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obviously, which I don't believeis conspiracy.
I don't believe we went to the moon.
Everybody knows that. I don't believe you can get to
the moon. So to hear this from a total
stranger in an airport, he says that moon thing and I said, what
about it? He said, well, I don't believe
we ever went to the moon. It's like really you don't
believe we went to the moon To me, see, that's you don't hear
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that very often. Now, if I'm talking about it
with a a group of like minded individuals, then yes, I hear
about it. But a random stranger come up to
me and say at an airport and say, I don't believe we went to
the moon. To me, that's just over the top,
right. But it all started with a watch.
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And so he was like, yeah, he said I don't believe he went to
the moon. And he he explained that and he
said, you know, and Omega claimstheir watch was on the moon and
they have a moon watch. So I don't really want to have a
watch or even from a company that produces watches who claims
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they had a wristwatch on the moon when I know we didn't go to
the moon. So they're liars.
So of course I had to say, well now hold on a second.
I too believe that the moon landings are fake and I don't
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think that Omega as a company knew anything about it.
And now that this fake hoax has been going on for, you know,
30-40, fifty, 60 years, whateverit's been now from sixty, 1969
or whatever to now, you do the math.
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It's like I, you know, of coursethey still sell moon watch.
And the original moon watch supposedly had some kind of a
plastic lens that wouldn't breakand you can buy a new one.
Now they call the moon watch that has like a regular sapphire
crystal like this one because it's supposedly like a replica,
you know, one they went to the moon with.
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But you ain't going to the moon,so you don't need the special
crystal. You see what I mean?
A regular watch Crystal will suit you just fine.
So I thought it was really, really interesting.
So I said, well, you know, I'm amoon landing denier myself.
I don't believe it. Don't even believe we can get to
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the moon. But that's a whole nother, whole
nother issue. But you know, for baby steps,
right? Baby steps for these guys.
I don't believe we went to the moon, but I don't believe Omega
knew anything about it. In fact, that's what I want to
do this podcast on because I've got to thinking about that.
And that's been a while. You know, it's been a couple
months ago, but it came up again.
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Something else came up because I've been looking at some
watches and somebody mentioned the moon watch again.
I'm like, yeah, the moon watch. That's right.
So I thought I'd do a little digging and investigation
exactly what happened with this moon watch.
So here's the information that Ifound out.
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OK, so #1 right off the bat, Omega never claimed, hey, we've
got a moon watch. What happened was, is NASA
supposedly OK? And I'm sure this really
happened in the 60s. They start looking for a watch
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that their astronauts could takeon their space missions.
So this happened in the 60s and they were looking for a reliable
watch, or chronograph as they called it.
Supposedly they needed this thing for backup timing for
engine burns and fuel checks. They needed it for Eva timing,
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which is, you know, what is thatexcular extra vehicle activity?
A space walk, in other words, orany emergency procedures if the
electronics failed. Now keep in mind these moon
vehicles, they had all their computers added up together, had
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less computing power than like acalculator.
So these things are pathetic by today's standards, and I mean
pathetic. OK, so NASA decides that it
wants to buy commercial off of the shelf watches, not
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prototypes or nothing special orcustomized.
They wanted to have something that you could just go buy.
So NASA sends a guy out, an engineer named James Reagan,
according to the research, and he was tasked with buying a
bunch of different high end at the time watches and testing
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them. So this happened Sierra, you
know, 1964. So he goes out.
You have to excuse my I've got acough drop on my throat every
time I get every time I do a podcast, my throat locks up, it
seems like. So I've got a cough drop in my
mouth and it's moving all around.
So he anonymously purchase, purchases these different
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watches. He doesn't tell anybody what
he's doing, and he goes to a retail jewelry store of some
kind somewhere and he buys thesewatches.
Well, the list of the watches hebought was an Omega Speedmaster,
A Rolex Daytona, a Hamilton, andthere's other one called it, I
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don't even know how to pronounceit, something long, long lines,
Whittinger or Whittinger, something like that.
And he also purchased some otherones, but apparently they just
just, you know, disintegrated right off the bat.
So it was down to like these 4. So let's see here he, he gave
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these watches, these different tests, these brutal tests as
they called it. And so they had to be like in
plus 200°F for a couple of hours, 0°F repeatedly.
They had to be subjected to a near 0 pressure, which is
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supposedly space conditions. They had to pass different shock
and vibration test, like a high G acceleration and violent
vibration simulating rocket launches.
You know how violent those rockets get?
You know, the real slow and they, and then they go over,
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over, over, then down, down, down, right into the Bermuda
Triangle. You know those rockets.
Yeah, since they land in the Bermuda Triangle, I guess they
need to be waterproof too. So they also supposedly had to
be, you know, subject to 95% humidity for days, oxygen rich
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environments, you know, and all different pressures.
So according to this informationthat I found on Wikipedia and
NASA's website and Omega's website, supposedly all of these
watches failed except the Omega.It's the only one that took a
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licking and kept on taking if you've ever heard that before.
So the Rolex Daytona supposedly failed due to lubrication
breakdown and timing issues. This Longines Widener, however
you pronounce it, I have no clue.
It stopped under extreme heat. The Hamilton it could not handle
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shock or vibration, and the Omega Speedmaster it kept
running within spec. So in 1965 NASA officially
certified the Omega Speedmaster as flight qualified by NASA for
all manned space missions. So this is a again, this is a
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documented NASA designation. This is not a marketing slogan
by Omega. So at this point, Omega at all
these things are being tested. Apparently they don't even know
their watches being tested because it's got bottom, retail
bottom anonymously and he just tested them.
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So Omega has doesn't even know they've got them on the watch at
this point. So then before the Apollo, you
know, Apollo, the the Pagan Apollo, Apollyon, Satanic before
those missions, they had the Gemini missions which had us cut
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supposedly, allegedly space walks, docking maneuvers and
extended missions in space. And all of these astronauts that
were on these missions here, these Gemini missions, they were
wearing a Speedmaster, an Omega Speedmaster.
And according to them, the watchproved itself repeatedly in real
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space conditions. Now, that's according to NASA.
Now, if you ask me, I would say that's a bald faced lie.
I would say they never went to space and the watch has never
been in space. But according to NASA, the watch
was in outer space. Now that's the information that
Omega has to go on. You know, they're like everybody
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else. They're like, oh, you got an
Omega watch and it's in outer space.
Well, you know, they don't know.They're not out there to see it.
So then let's roll up to the Apollo and the Moon mission,
which was 1969. So Buzz Aldrin and Neil
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Armstrong both had Omega Speedmasters on and what they
did is they took off the strap the band like this one has, and
they had a long Velcro strap on it.
So they have a picture of Neil like in the moon thing and it's
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all wrapped around his wrist. See, because this thing is
supposed to go on the outside ofthe the, the moon suit, the
space suit, you know, and it's like this big around.
So this watch has to go around it.
So it's got this really long Velcro band.
So that's what they've got. So they've got them all wrapped
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around the wrist when they're wearing them.
Well, according to NASA's official story, Neil Armstrong
had one on and Buzz Aldrin had one on.
They both went out onto the moon.
Neil Armstrong went first. You know, he's the 11.
Small step for man, one giant leap, you know, you know, that
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whole look at me, I'm on the moon, but it looks like I'm on a
movie set, you know, filmed by Stan Stanley Kubrick, that whole
thing. So he, he hops out of the lunar
module, but guess what? He doesn't have his watch on.
It was left supposedly inside ofthe lunar module as a backup
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timer because the timer in the module had failed.
And it's funny because I saw a picture of this years ago.
I couldn't find it now, but it claimed that the timer in the
module was a Bulova. A Bulova, it had like a clock up
there and said bull of on it andit stopped.
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So it's like I don't guess they tested that one.
I guess they thought, well, it'll be it'll be inside the
lunar module, right. So and it's air conditioned and
heated basically like in an apartment complex.
Apparently an apartment on the moon, you know, so don't need to
be space certified. Will it quit?
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So he had to take his and strap it up for timing purposes.
OK. I mean, this is a good story.
Only two people that can cooperate this are the two, you
know, Masons that went to the moon.
OK, so Buzz then comes out and he has his on and there's
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pictures of it with him with it on a wristband and it's got a
watch face on it. And so he wore his Omega
Speedmaster during or on the lunar surface during Apollo 11.
So that officially made it the very first watch worn on the
moon. So according to them, Omega
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didn't officially claim they hada moon watch until after that
mission. Because before that, you see, it
was simply just a real is a, is a watch.
It's just a tool, you know, theydidn't actually realize.
Oh, my goodness, the guy's wearing it, you know, on the
moon. Now we've got a moon watch.
So there we have it. Yeah.
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So supposedly again, later on inApollo 13, which, you know, you
can watch from Hollywood, you know, with Tom Hanks.
We've got, we've got the all thepedophiles running around
pretending to be astronauts during the Apollo 13 mission,
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you know, and the onboard systems all failed and then the
astronauts used a Speedmaster totime a 14 second manual engine
burn to correct their trajectorysafely returning to Earth.
You know, like a like a like thetypical Hollywood fashion you
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get course that was Tom Hanks that did that.
But according to the thing I read in the movie, he's wearing
a Rolex in the movie. I I haven't paid attention.
I need to go check that out. But either way, according to
NASA, he was actually wearing anOmega Speedmaster.
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So NASA then credited the Speedmaster with playing a role
in saving the crew, and Omega later received a NASA Silver
Snoopy award, whatever that is, for this.
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So they got a little award from NASA about the Speedmaster.
OK, so. Let's go on to the next.
Oh, now what I have here is I have a picture.
If you can see this, let me see if I can get it up.
This is a picture of Buzz Aldrinin his moon Lander.
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And he has his, you know, he's wearing on his left arm.
Apparently he I wear mine on my right 'cause I'm left-handed,
you know, So he's got it there. You can see the strap.
It's all wound around. And there's a big picture on the
right here of what the watch looks like.
Also on that same hand, of course, you know, unless this
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thing's inverted somehow, he hasa, a ring on his finger right
there. And you can't see it on here.
But if you go to the NASA website, this is on their
pictures for Apollo. You can zoom in.
It's a lot better picture. And that ring is a Masonic ring
and it has a square and compass on it.
It's a gold ring with a red inlay with a gold square and
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compass with AG on it. So it's funny because I did a
little research to say, you know, was bald because I hear
that all the time. Was Buzz Aldrin and Mason.
Oh, there's no proof of that. He never admitted that.
I say, well, he's wearing a Masonic ring on his finger with
a square and compass. I know lots of people who used
to be Masons and that's the samering they're wearing.
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So, you know, I went on to AI and ask it some questions like,
oh, no, no, no. I was like, well, that isn't
that is the Masonic ring. No matter what you say, OK, you
can go see it for yourself. So anyway, there he is.
He's in his little lunar module or whatever he's supposedly in
and there he is. You know, he's practically bald.
What's funny is, is all the pictures of him today, you know,
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now that he's like 80 or 90, Well, he got nearly a full head
of hair. So I'm not sure why this when
these and we know he was supposedly like 30.
He's basically got a horrible receding hairline.
But today he's got hair there. So somehow he grew hair back.
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Not sure how that happened. Maybe I don't know, Maybe it's
through all those Van Allen radiation belts he went through.
You know, the radiation is sizzled his head a little bit
and his his hair miraculously grew back.
Not sure, Not sure how that happens.
How you see people, you know, it's kind of like Joe Biden.
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He's hardly have any hair in onepicture and the next picture
he's got a full head of hair. You know, it's like, wow, how do
these how do these rich politicians and astronauts, how
did the hair grow? Are they getting their hair
implanted or something? Maybe I don't know.
That's, that's a good question. Maybe we should look into that.
Anyway, so on to the next saga here about the moon watch.
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So let's go on to the next section here that I have.
OK, so we've established Omega'sa moon watch.
We've established how Omega became a moon watch.
Now what happened to the moon Watch, you ask?
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Well, it got lost. So here's the story of what
happened to the legendary Omega Moon.
Watch. Let's see it vanished.
So after Apollo 11, Buzz Aldrin's Speedmaster was given
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by him to the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum,
and this was going to be a part of the astronaut memorabilia
display. So multiple different accounts,
including Buzz says that he sent, I guess via mail, UPSUSPS,
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not sure, to the Smithsonian. So he mailed it off to him and
it never arrived. So it's widely believed that it
was either stolen or lost in transit.
And that was in the early early 1970s that this happened.
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Now this, this, this Smithsoniannow does have other Apollo era
speed masters, but Aldrin's moonsurface watch is still missing.
So, and, and here's what happened there.
Well, let me see here. What else?
What else do I have here? Right.
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We, we've already went over this.
Neil Armstrong's watch was left in the lunar module as a backup
timer. So Aldrin's often described as
the first watch actually actually worn on the moon
surface, making it one of the most historically valuable
wristwatches ever. And of course, it disappeared.
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Supposedly over the over the years, people have claimed to
have had that watch, but it turned out to be not the case.
So the other article I read here, which I don't see in front
of me, but I remember reading it, Buzz is interviewed, I think
it's in his book, and he's talking all about this and how
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he had sent it to him. And of course, it got lost, and
so it's never been found again. So he reported that.
And then at that point, NASA perks up and like, oh, well, we
need to recall all watches that we've put out there, any watch
that was in the Apollo program or has anything to do with the
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moon. We need it back.
So all of these other astronautswere forced to turn in their
watch or anything to do with this stuff.
Remember that? So they all had to turn it all
in. So now none of them have
anything. And in his little book that I
read this article that he was talking in, he said, you know,
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they were kind of griping and complaining about it.
They were upset that they had togive their watches back.
But NASA's like now those are our watches.
That's government property. So they had to return them.
That's the that's the story. So there you go.
There it is on Omega. Now, if you want to know my
thoughts on it, you already knowwhat my thoughts are.
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They never went to the moon. There's never been a wristwatch
on the moon and there never willbe because you can't get to the
moon. So that that sums that up now.
Now, do other people believe we went to the moon?
Of course they do. Did he really send the moon
watch or did he keep it or did somebody steal it?
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Don't know. You know, somebody probably
stole it, intercepted the package, was like, oh, he's
mailing this stuff off, you know, went through, you know,
went through the package. I don't know.
So they believe it and they think they've got a watch that
was on the moon. Now NASA comes back now and they
say, oh, we, we've got to have that stuff back.
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We have to have it back. Why do you think that is?
I have a theory. I have a theory about that.
I'm going to tell it to you right now because I know you
want to hear it, right. You see, this is not a matic
watch, OK? It's just a wristwatch.
I watch. I watch.
I watch different YouTube videoson watch repair, watch cleaning,
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just watches in general because,like I said, I like watches.
What I've noticed is you take a wristwatch.
These guys are pulling them apart and they're absolutely
filthy. So you've got to watch.
And like this one that hasn't been serviced in 10 years.
I'm sure if they opened it up and pulled the links off, it
would have all kinds of crud allup underneath it that you can't
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see right now and you can't get to until you turn, until you
open it up and all of a sudden it just falls out of everywhere.
So we know that's a fact. So imagine this same watch being
on the moon for a while now. According to NASA, the moon dust
up there is thick. It gets all over everything, it
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gets in everything, it covers everything.
You can't get it off. It just embeds itself in
everything. Supposedly got all in their
space suits and all. Can't get, can't get the stuff
off of you. Stains up the material 'cause it
gets in it and just stains it. You can't get it off.
So my theory is NASA was probably like, OK, we've we've
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lost our moon watch. We've lost one.
What if a watchmaker opens up this wristwatch and a bunch of
dust falls out? Moon dust.
Are you following me here? Moon dust.
And let's just say he gets a hankering to get it tested.
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And come to find out, it's not dust from the moon, but it's
dust from over here in the desert, you know, or it's not
dust from the moon. It's cement dust from the fake
stage that was set up for the fake Apollo moon landing.
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So we don't want anybody testingthe dust.
In other words, that dust can never be seen by anybody other
than us, so we need to get thosewatches back ASAP.
So then you're thinking to yourself, well, would that
really happen? Would they even care?
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Yes, they would. And here is how I know they
would because here is the next story.
Now, this doesn't have to do with a watch, but this does have
to do with moon dust. OK, and so let me get my article
pulled up here. So this came up on a podcast I
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listened to here while back withBart Sabrel.
Again, I'm I'm I've got an interview scheduled for him is
coming up. But so I'm going to mention this
to him. He mentioned, you know, about
how NASA did and how strict theyare with their moon dust and
moon rocks. You see, because supposedly
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these astronauts came back with over £800 of moon rocks.
Now, during this time, they gaveaway little pieces of these moon
rocks, like the marble size in these plaques to all these
different countries and they have them on display.
Keep in mind they don't look anything like the moon rocks
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that they show pictures of. They look completely different.
Well, one of these moon rocks that was given to a country, I
can't move the country. You can look it up.
They actually wanted to get theirs insured or something.
They took it out of the case andhad it tested and lo and behold,
guess what? I think it's Dutch, the Dutch
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government, Lo and behold, it's fake.
It's not even a moon rock from space.
If would you know what it was, It was a piece of petrified
wood. So NASA gave these people fake
moon rocks. One person, one company, 1
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government actually opened the thing up and tested it.
And guess what? It's not a rock from outer
space. It's not a rock from the moon.
It's from right here on Earth, and it's a piece of petrified
wood. That's all it was.
So why would they do that? Well, probably because they're
all fake, right? I mean, logically there is no
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such thing as a moon rock. So everything they gave out was
fake. So of course nobody's allowed to
see no normal. And in this podcast, the guys
are go, how would we know? We can't test these moon.
We need to get some moon rocks in here and test them.
That's never going to happen. There is no individual person
that has a brain in their head that's going to get to test
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anything. The only people that get a hold
of this stuff is other government people and people
that are in on this scam. If you ain't in on the scam,
you're not going to get to look at the thing except through a
piece of glass. You're never going to get to
touch it, let alone test it. So one of the things they
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mentioned that happened to do with these moon rocks was a
grandma. And I found the story and it's
real. There was a 70 year old woman
and basically the news story wasa grandma got busted for selling
a moon rock. So the lady's name was Joan
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Davis and she was an elderly California widow and she somehow
got caught up in the NASA Officeof Inspector General.
Didn't even know what existed after trying to sell a tiny
piece of lunar material embeddedin a lucite or acrylic
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paperweight. OK, so here's what happened.
Joan Davis, this old lady in hermid 70s, and this was in 2011.
She was described as a widow anda grandmother.
Her late husband's name was, let's see, what was his name?
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His name was Robert Davis and hehad worked on the Apollo
program, but he worked for NorthAmerican Rockwell.
So he was some kind of an engineer or scientist working on
the Apollo program. What he did is during this time
in Apollo, he acquired apparently legally, because this
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thing, he got it from NASA, fromthe Apollo program and it was a
paperweight. Like this big is a big, pretty
big paperweight and and it's clear like real heavy.
And in the very center of this thing, it had a teeny tiny
speck, smaller than a grain of rice.
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That teeny tiny speck was supposedly a speck of moon dust.
OK, I'm serious. Well, he brings this thing home
and has it for years until he dies.
And now she is pushing 80 year old widow who is, you know,
needs the money. She lives in California.
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I mean, look what's going on in California.
Of course you're going to need the money over there, right?
Taxes through the roof. I mean, God knows what's going
on over there. So of course you're going to
need the money. So she decides what her husband
had left it to her, gave it to her and she's like, well, I want
to get rid of this thing. So she listed it somewhere,
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probably on eBay and said, look,this is a teeny tiny speck of
moon dust came from the Apollo program.
My husband brought it home. I want to sell it.
So she was trying to sell it andapparently she had an offer from
a guy who offered her 1.7 million and she's like sold.
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So let's see here. So she wasn't really talking to
a real buyer. She was talking to an undercover
NASA guy. I mean, seriously, over a speck
of dust in trapped, sealed in a big thick piece of Lucite.
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So in other words, you ain't never getting it out.
OK. I mean, think about that picture
that. So let's see.
So they investigate this for months and they they, they come
up with an under undercover buying.
So they're going to buy it from her and they're undercover
agents. They're not real buyers.
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The meeting takes place at a Denny's.
So she meets the buyer of a moonspeck of moon dust at Denny's
and of course in Southern California, says it happened at
Lake Elsamore, Riverside County area, OK.
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And when she arrived with the Lucite Paperwhite paperweight
agents moved in and seized the item.
So this goes on to say she was not ultimately charged.
NASA experts supposedly later confirmed that the lunar
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material was authentic, but the prosecutors did not file
charges. Don't know why.
Maybe because, you know, she didn't steal it or anything.
She got it from her husband as agift, apparently.
No big deal. He walked right out of there
with it. However, now, as of now, and as
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of when that happened, all Apollo lunar samples are treated
as controlled government property.
Private sales are strictly prohibited.
In fact, any moon dust is treated as a national treasure,
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and it's a felony to have it. If you're not NASA, it's theirs.
So NASA says all moon dust and all moon rocks belong to them.
It's theirs. So here.
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Here we are folks. If you're a pushing an 80 year
old geriatric woman and you own a piece of a speck of moon dust,
don't you even dare think about trying to sell it.
Why? Because the federal agents will
Swatch you and you'll probably end up in prison for life now.
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She didn't, but surprised all over.
A speck of moon dust. Now they call it.
Whenever you read the articles, they keep calling it a moon
rock. A moon rock.
So you know, you're thinking of something this big, right?
You're thinking of something thesize of your fist.
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A rock. Oh, that's a big rock.
It's not, It's not a rock. It's smaller than a grain of
rice. Like a grain of sand.
A speck. If it was to fall on the floor,
it would be lost forever. It would be literally a piece of
dust blown away. So they actually conducted a
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sting and arrested somebody at Denny's for having a speck of
moon dust in a paperweight lucite where you can't even get
to it. Now why would they do that?
My theory is, which is the same as Bart Sabrails the theory.
Is they don't want even a chanceof anybody cracking that thing
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open in the future and taking that little speck of dust and
testing it and say that's just apiece of sand right here off the
floor that didn't come from the moon.
It's literally a piece of sand out of the driveway.
It's nothing. There's nothing special about
it. But see, somehow back in the
60s, this guy walked right out of NASA with it.
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It's no big deal. But see, back then, they had no
idea the Internet was even goingto exist.
They had no idea that people were going to be able to get
online and find out that it was a hoax.
They had no clue people could actually communicate about this
and listen to a podcast about the fake moon landings, you see.
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And then people might actually investigate it.
And people with way more stuff than they had back then can say,
oh, let me have that. I'll just take and test it right
under this microscope right here.
And I'll take they didn't think about that, so they didn't have
to worry about controlling it. They figured it'd just
disappear. Just a piece of sand, right?
Who cares? Well, now all of a sudden, a
piece of new, a piece of a moon dust comes up for sale on eBay.
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They're like, what? Somebody has some moon dust?
That's not us and not the Smithsonian.
Well, SWAT them, arrest them. I'm surprised they didn't just
shoot her. I'm surprised they didn't show
up with a SWAT team and just just spray the whole place with
bullets and kill everybody in the whole place.
I'm surprised that that sounds more like what they would do.
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So if they're that ridiculous over a speck of dust, is there
any wonder why they went and gotall the watches and anything
that went to the moon had to come back to them?
Is there any wonder 'cause they oh, a watch got lost?
What if it has a speck of moon dust on it or in it, embedded in
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the in the bezel or embedded in the band?
Somebody might test it. Somebody might realize where it
came from. So yes, that all that is a true
story, by the way. But just think about that for a
second. Supposedly people can go to
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Antarctica and the desert and all kinds of places, and
supposedly there are rocks from the moon, meteorites from the
moon, which are nothing more than supposedly something has
hit the moon and went poof and blew rocks up into the air.
And these rocks have made their way back down to Earth.
So apparently, if you pick up a moon rock from the ground, you
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can have it. But if you have a moon rock that
NASA picked up from the moon, well, you better not get caught
with it. Put it that way.
You're a felon. They'll probably put you in a
gulag somewhere and that you'll never be seen again.
Why? Because see, if you walk out
there. This is my opinion, by the way.
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This is my theory. If you're walking in Antarctica,
what, you can't get there anyway?
But let's pretend that you could, and you stumble upon a
moon rock from outer space and you pick it up and you're like,
I got me a moon rock, Got it right here.
Well, that's fine. Because see, if somebody tests
it and it turns out to be nothing more than petrified
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wood, they're going to say, well, of course, because you
picked it up down there in Antarctica and you don't know
anything about it. You see, you're an idiot.
So you didn't even pick up a moon rock.
You just thought you did. That's because you're an idiot.
Only NASA can pick up moon rocks.
Don't you know that? Don't you know only NASA can get
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this stuff done? Not you.
And you don't work for NASA. You're not a Mason, you don't
have a top secret clearance, so you're never going to get to see
a moon rock except in pictures. So obviously you pick up a moon
rock. They can say you didn't really
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pick up a moon Rock. You just thought you picked up a
moon rock. But if you have a moon rock that
came off the space shuttle, they're going to say, well, now
this one's real, see, because wepicked it up off the moon.
Now let's test it. Oh, no.
Oh, no. We test it and we tell you that
it's real. Everything goes through us.
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You know, that way we can control everything.
So we can literally you can. You can be looking at a rock out
of your driveway, but if we haveit in our hands, it could be a
moon rock. But you're never going to get to
know the difference you see. So they don't want the watch
floating around because it couldhave moon dust on it.
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Now that's my opinion. I don't know.
So I don't know you'd be the judge on that.
However, all this to say, I met a guy at the airport who no
longer wants an Omega watch because he thinks that the moon
landing is fake. Well, I mean, kudos for that.
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And but like I told him, I have an Omega and I believe it's
fake. Obviously, let's see, Omega
doesn't know that Omega has to go by the same information that
all these other people go by propaganda and they just assume
it's true and it doesn't hurt. I was like, hey, you know, if,
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if 50% of the population believes we went to the moon and
they were wearing an Omega when they did it, put it on the
website, hey, produce a moon watch.
Maybe somebody will buy it, markthat price up a little bit.
After all, it's a replica that went to the moon.
So maybe here in the near future, you know, we can, we can
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come up with one that went to Mars, maybe with Elon, maybe
Elon will take one to Mars, but he may not like Omega.
I don't know. He may be wearing a Timex for
all I know. Who knows?
Anyway, I just thought I'd throwthat thing out there.
Yeah, thanks for listening, by the way.
I just thought I'd throw that out there.
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I need to get another one, another podcast done.
And it was interesting. And I like moon rocks.
I like talking about moon rocks,like talking about wristwatches.
Like I said, I'm going to come up with another one with Bart
Sabrel here real soon. We're going to talk about his
interview he had with the astronaut.
You know, I think it's going to be good.
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I think he was MK Ultred. Another guy thinks he's MK
Ultred, but he may just be a liar.
You know, it's funny on these, on these astronauts, they're
well like like Buzz and all these others.
They're usually always Masons. A lot of times they're 33rd, 33°
Masons, which is the highest youcan get.
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It's an honorary title. So you can go up to 32, but then
you have to be promoted to 33. It's an honorary deal.
You can't just buy it. So in order to be that level and
have a top secret clearance, obviously you have to be able to
keep a secret. So you have to be very
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trustworthy with secrets or you will never reach it to begin
with. So it stands to reason that
these Apollo astronauts are all in the same club, the secret
keeping club. So they're either keeping the
secret of that, you know, you know they are, but there's a
chance they got MK altered at the same time.
I don't know for sure. But either way, let me know what
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you think. Leave a comment as always before
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meet again. God bless you.
Hello, this is Kenny Williamson and welcome back to another
episode of Mckills Death Chronicles.
Today I wanted to talk a little bit about a subject that I'm
interested in. Of course, I'm interested in
lots of things. This is just one of the many,
and that is wristwatches. I've always liked wristwatches.
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I've always liked clocks. It's just something I've always
been into. If you watch and have been
watching my episodes, which lotsof you have, I talk a lot with
my hands. I have to move my hands a lot to
speak, apparently. That's what I've been told.
I've been told several times arelike, you know, you couldn't
even speak if you didn't move your hands.
If your hands were tied behind your back, you couldn't even
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speak. That's probably the case.
However, if you've seen seen thevideos and me moving my hands
around like I do, you probably noticed that I do wear a
wristwatch lots of the time. This is an automatic wristwatch
that I bought 1012 years ago in Tulsa, OK when I used to work
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over there. And it's an Omega.
If this was called an Omega planet Ocean and there's and,
and you may not have even heard of an Omega.
Some people have, some people haven't.
It's it's not a Rolex, it's an Omega.
But what I wanted to talk about with this Omega, which I thought
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was interesting. You see, I pay attention and I
watch these different watch shows and you know, they sell
Omegas and they work on them andRolexes and everything else,
every kind you can imagine, really expensive ones.
This is not that expensive, so it's interesting.
So what I wanted to tell you about this one is I think it's a
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funny story is also if you've been following the channel.
If not, that's fine. But if you have, you know that
it was, I think it was in October, I went to Dallas, TX to
a thing called Truther con, Truther con 2025.
Now, in that particular little thing that I went to is two or
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three days long, you know, they had all these different
speakers, Flat Earth, Dave was there.
Wits it gets it was there. It's a whole bunch of guys that
are into that kind of stuff was there.
And me, of course, I'm a truth seeker, so I was there.
So on the way back, I'm sitting at the airport and a guy sits
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next to me because we're waitingon the flight.
And his flight actually left before mine did.
And he was looking around and I'm just sitting here, you know,
like this. And my arms crossed, got my hand
on my bag. And he says, excuse me, Sir.
I said, yeah. He's like, is that, is that an
Omega watch you're wearing? And I'm like, yes, yes, it is.
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And So what model is that? I said, it's called a Seamaster
Planet Ocean. He asked if he could see it.
And he'd been sitting there a while, so I didn't figure he was
going to take off with it. So I took it off and I handed it
to him and he's like, yeah, I really like this watch.
I've been thinking about buying what he called a big boy watch.
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He said, I'm I'm wanting to get either an Omega or a Rolex or he
named off several others that I can't even pronounce the names
and I've never even heard of. And he said, yeah, I really, I
really, really like the omegas, he said.
However, he said I've got one reason I was going to get an
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Omega. He said, now I don't think I
want to know me anymore. I'm I'm not going to get one.
I don't like him anymore. And so why is that?
He said, well, it all has to do with their moon watch.
And I was like, of course, you know me, right?
I mean, you don't, you know, I'ma conspiracy theorist,
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obviously, which I don't believeis conspiracy.
I don't believe we went to the moon.
Everybody knows that. I don't believe you can get to
the moon. So to hear this from a total
stranger in an airport, he says that moon thing and I said, what
about it? He said, well, I don't believe
we ever went to the moon. It's like really you don't
believe we went to the moon To me, see, that's you don't hear
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that very often. Now, if I'm talking about it
with a a group of like minded individuals, then yes, I hear
about it. But a random stranger come up to
me and say at an airport and say, I don't believe we went to
the moon. To me, that's just over the top,
right. But it all started with a watch.
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And so he was like, yeah, he said I don't believe he went to
the moon. And he he explained that and he
said, you know, and Omega claimstheir watch was on the moon and
they have a moon watch. So I don't really want to have a
watch or even from a company that produces watches who claims
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they had a wristwatch on the moon when I know we didn't go to
the moon. So they're liars.
So of course I had to say, well now hold on a second.
I too believe that the moon landings are fake and I don't
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think that Omega as a company knew anything about it.
And now that this fake hoax has been going on for, you know,
30-40, fifty, 60 years, whateverit's been now from sixty, 1969
or whatever to now, you do the math.
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It's like I, you know, of coursethey still sell moon watch.
And the original moon watch supposedly had some kind of a
plastic lens that wouldn't breakand you can buy a new one.
Now they call the moon watch that has like a regular sapphire
crystal like this one because it's supposedly like a replica,
you know, one they went to the moon with.
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But you ain't going to the moon,so you don't need the special
crystal. You see what I mean?
A regular watch Crystal will suit you just fine.
So I thought it was really, really interesting.
So I said, well, you know, I'm amoon landing denier myself.
I don't believe it. Don't even believe we can get to
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the moon. But that's a whole nother, whole
nother issue. But you know, for baby steps,
right? Baby steps for these guys.
I don't believe we went to the moon, but I don't believe Omega
knew anything about it. In fact, that's what I want to
do this podcast on because I've got to thinking about that.
And that's been a while. You know, it's been a couple
months ago, but it came up again.
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Something else came up because I've been looking at some
watches and somebody mentioned the moon watch again.
I'm like, yeah, the moon watch. That's right.
So I thought I'd do a little digging and investigation
exactly what happened with this moon watch.
So here's the information that Ifound out.
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OK, so #1 right off the bat, Omega never claimed, hey, we've
got a moon watch. What happened was, is NASA
supposedly OK? And I'm sure this really
happened in the 60s. They start looking for a watch
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that their astronauts could takeon their space missions.
So this happened in the 60s and they were looking for a reliable
watch, or chronograph as they called it.
Supposedly they needed this thing for backup timing for
engine burns and fuel checks. They needed it for Eva timing,
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which is, you know, what is thatexcular extra vehicle activity?
A space walk, in other words, orany emergency procedures if the
electronics failed. Now keep in mind these moon
vehicles, they had all their computers added up together, had
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less computing power than like acalculator.
So these things are pathetic by today's standards, and I mean
pathetic. OK, so NASA decides that it
wants to buy commercial off of the shelf watches, not
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prototypes or nothing special orcustomized.
They wanted to have something that you could just go buy.
So NASA sends a guy out, an engineer named James Reagan,
according to the research, and he was tasked with buying a
bunch of different high end at the time watches and testing
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them. So this happened Sierra, you
know, 1964. So he goes out.
You have to excuse my I've got acough drop on my throat every
time I get every time I do a podcast, my throat locks up, it
seems like. So I've got a cough drop in my
mouth and it's moving all around.
So he anonymously purchase, purchases these different
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watches. He doesn't tell anybody what
he's doing, and he goes to a retail jewelry store of some
kind somewhere and he buys thesewatches.
Well, the list of the watches hebought was an Omega Speedmaster,
A Rolex Daytona, a Hamilton, andthere's other one called it, I
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don't even know how to pronounceit, something long, long lines,
Whittinger or Whittinger, something like that.
And he also purchased some otherones, but apparently they just
just, you know, disintegrated right off the bat.
So it was down to like these 4. So let's see here he, he gave
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these watches, these different tests, these brutal tests as
they called it. And so they had to be like in
plus 200°F for a couple of hours, 0°F repeatedly.
They had to be subjected to a near 0 pressure, which is
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supposedly space conditions. They had to pass different shock
and vibration test, like a high G acceleration and violent
vibration simulating rocket launches.
You know how violent those rockets get?
You know, the real slow and they, and then they go over,
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over, over, then down, down, down, right into the Bermuda
Triangle. You know those rockets.
Yeah, since they land in the Bermuda Triangle, I guess they
need to be waterproof too. So they also supposedly had to
be, you know, subject to 95% humidity for days, oxygen rich
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environments, you know, and all different pressures.
So according to this informationthat I found on Wikipedia and
NASA's website and Omega's website, supposedly all of these
watches failed except the Omega.It's the only one that took a
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licking and kept on taking if you've ever heard that before.
So the Rolex Daytona supposedly failed due to lubrication
breakdown and timing issues. This Longines Widener, however
you pronounce it, I have no clue.
It stopped under extreme heat. The Hamilton it could not handle
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shock or vibration, and the Omega Speedmaster it kept
running within spec. So in 1965 NASA officially
certified the Omega Speedmaster as flight qualified by NASA for
all manned space missions. So this is a again, this is a
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documented NASA designation. This is not a marketing slogan
by Omega. So at this point, Omega at all
these things are being tested. Apparently they don't even know
their watches being tested because it's got bottom, retail
bottom anonymously and he just tested them.
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So Omega has doesn't even know they've got them on the watch at
this point. So then before the Apollo, you
know, Apollo, the the Pagan Apollo, Apollyon, Satanic before
those missions, they had the Gemini missions which had us cut
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supposedly, allegedly space walks, docking maneuvers and
extended missions in space. And all of these astronauts that
were on these missions here, these Gemini missions, they were
wearing a Speedmaster, an Omega Speedmaster.
And according to them, the watchproved itself repeatedly in real
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space conditions. Now, that's according to NASA.
Now, if you ask me, I would say that's a bald faced lie.
I would say they never went to space and the watch has never
been in space. But according to NASA, the watch
was in outer space. Now that's the information that
Omega has to go on. You know, they're like everybody
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else. They're like, oh, you got an
Omega watch and it's in outer space.
Well, you know, they don't know.They're not out there to see it.
So then let's roll up to the Apollo and the Moon mission,
which was 1969. So Buzz Aldrin and Neil
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Armstrong both had Omega Speedmasters on and what they
did is they took off the strap the band like this one has, and
they had a long Velcro strap on it.
So they have a picture of Neil like in the moon thing and it's
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all wrapped around his wrist. See, because this thing is
supposed to go on the outside ofthe the, the moon suit, the
space suit, you know, and it's like this big around.
So this watch has to go around it.
So it's got this really long Velcro band.
So that's what they've got. So they've got them all wrapped
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around the wrist when they're wearing them.
Well, according to NASA's official story, Neil Armstrong
had one on and Buzz Aldrin had one on.
They both went out onto the moon.
Neil Armstrong went first. You know, he's the 11.
Small step for man, one giant leap, you know, you know, that
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whole look at me, I'm on the moon, but it looks like I'm on a
movie set, you know, filmed by Stan Stanley Kubrick, that whole
thing. So he, he hops out of the lunar
module, but guess what? He doesn't have his watch on.
It was left supposedly inside ofthe lunar module as a backup
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timer because the timer in the module had failed.
And it's funny because I saw a picture of this years ago.
I couldn't find it now, but it claimed that the timer in the
module was a Bulova. A Bulova, it had like a clock up
there and said bull of on it andit stopped.
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So it's like I don't guess they tested that one.
I guess they thought, well, it'll be it'll be inside the
lunar module, right. So and it's air conditioned and
heated basically like in an apartment complex.
Apparently an apartment on the moon, you know, so don't need to
be space certified. Will it quit?
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So he had to take his and strap it up for timing purposes.
OK. I mean, this is a good story.
Only two people that can cooperate this are the two, you
know, Masons that went to the moon.
OK, so Buzz then comes out and he has his on and there's
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pictures of it with him with it on a wristband and it's got a
watch face on it. And so he wore his Omega
Speedmaster during or on the lunar surface during Apollo 11.
So that officially made it the very first watch worn on the
moon. So according to them, Omega
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didn't officially claim they hada moon watch until after that
mission. Because before that, you see, it
was simply just a real is a, is a watch.
It's just a tool, you know, theydidn't actually realize.
Oh, my goodness, the guy's wearing it, you know, on the
moon. Now we've got a moon watch.
So there we have it. Yeah.
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So supposedly again, later on inApollo 13, which, you know, you
can watch from Hollywood, you know, with Tom Hanks.
We've got, we've got the all thepedophiles running around
pretending to be astronauts during the Apollo 13 mission,
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you know, and the onboard systems all failed and then the
astronauts used a Speedmaster totime a 14 second manual engine
burn to correct their trajectorysafely returning to Earth.
You know, like a like a like thetypical Hollywood fashion you
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get course that was Tom Hanks that did that.
But according to the thing I read in the movie, he's wearing
a Rolex in the movie. I I haven't paid attention.
I need to go check that out. But either way, according to
NASA, he was actually wearing anOmega Speedmaster.
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So NASA then credited the Speedmaster with playing a role
in saving the crew, and Omega later received a NASA Silver
Snoopy award, whatever that is, for this.
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So they got a little award from NASA about the Speedmaster.
OK, so. Let's go on to the next.
Oh, now what I have here is I have a picture.
If you can see this, let me see if I can get it up.
This is a picture of Buzz Aldrinin his moon Lander.
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And he has his, you know, he's wearing on his left arm.
Apparently he I wear mine on my right 'cause I'm left-handed,
you know, So he's got it there. You can see the strap.
It's all wound around. And there's a big picture on the
right here of what the watch looks like.
Also on that same hand, of course, you know, unless this
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thing's inverted somehow, he hasa, a ring on his finger right
there. And you can't see it on here.
But if you go to the NASA website, this is on their
pictures for Apollo. You can zoom in.
It's a lot better picture. And that ring is a Masonic ring
and it has a square and compass on it.
It's a gold ring with a red inlay with a gold square and
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compass with AG on it. So it's funny because I did a
little research to say, you know, was bald because I hear
that all the time. Was Buzz Aldrin and Mason.
Oh, there's no proof of that. He never admitted that.
I say, well, he's wearing a Masonic ring on his finger with
a square and compass. I know lots of people who used
to be Masons and that's the samering they're wearing.
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So, you know, I went on to AI and ask it some questions like,
oh, no, no, no. I was like, well, that isn't
that is the Masonic ring. No matter what you say, OK, you
can go see it for yourself. So anyway, there he is.
He's in his little lunar module or whatever he's supposedly in
and there he is. You know, he's practically bald.
What's funny is, is all the pictures of him today, you know,
(21:59):
now that he's like 80 or 90, Well, he got nearly a full head
of hair. So I'm not sure why this when
these and we know he was supposedly like 30.
He's basically got a horrible receding hairline.
But today he's got hair there. So somehow he grew hair back.
(22:20):
Not sure how that happened. Maybe I don't know, Maybe it's
through all those Van Allen radiation belts he went through.
You know, the radiation is sizzled his head a little bit
and his his hair miraculously grew back.
Not sure, Not sure how that happens.
How you see people, you know, it's kind of like Joe Biden.
(22:41):
He's hardly have any hair in onepicture and the next picture
he's got a full head of hair. You know, it's like, wow, how do
these how do these rich politicians and astronauts, how
did the hair grow? Are they getting their hair
implanted or something? Maybe I don't know.
That's, that's a good question. Maybe we should look into that.
Anyway, so on to the next saga here about the moon watch.
(23:08):
So let's go on to the next section here that I have.
OK, so we've established Omega'sa moon watch.
We've established how Omega became a moon watch.
Now what happened to the moon Watch, you ask?
(23:29):
Well, it got lost. So here's the story of what
happened to the legendary Omega Moon.
Watch. Let's see it vanished.
So after Apollo 11, Buzz Aldrin's Speedmaster was given
(23:51):
by him to the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum,
and this was going to be a part of the astronaut memorabilia
display. So multiple different accounts,
including Buzz says that he sent, I guess via mail, UPSUSPS,
(24:15):
not sure, to the Smithsonian. So he mailed it off to him and
it never arrived. So it's widely believed that it
was either stolen or lost in transit.
And that was in the early early 1970s that this happened.
(24:36):
Now this, this, this Smithsoniannow does have other Apollo era
speed masters, but Aldrin's moonsurface watch is still missing.
So, and, and here's what happened there.
Well, let me see here. What else?
What else do I have here? Right.
(24:59):
We, we've already went over this.
Neil Armstrong's watch was left in the lunar module as a backup
timer. So Aldrin's often described as
the first watch actually actually worn on the moon
surface, making it one of the most historically valuable
wristwatches ever. And of course, it disappeared.
(25:20):
Supposedly over the over the years, people have claimed to
have had that watch, but it turned out to be not the case.
So the other article I read here, which I don't see in front
of me, but I remember reading it, Buzz is interviewed, I think
it's in his book, and he's talking all about this and how
(25:43):
he had sent it to him. And of course, it got lost, and
so it's never been found again. So he reported that.
And then at that point, NASA perks up and like, oh, well, we
need to recall all watches that we've put out there, any watch
that was in the Apollo program or has anything to do with the
(26:04):
moon. We need it back.
So all of these other astronautswere forced to turn in their
watch or anything to do with this stuff.
Remember that? So they all had to turn it all
in. So now none of them have
anything. And in his little book that I
read this article that he was talking in, he said, you know,
(26:27):
they were kind of griping and complaining about it.
They were upset that they had togive their watches back.
But NASA's like now those are our watches.
That's government property. So they had to return them.
That's the that's the story. So there you go.
There it is on Omega. Now, if you want to know my
thoughts on it, you already knowwhat my thoughts are.
(26:49):
They never went to the moon. There's never been a wristwatch
on the moon and there never willbe because you can't get to the
moon. So that that sums that up now.
Now, do other people believe we went to the moon?
Of course they do. Did he really send the moon
watch or did he keep it or did somebody steal it?
(27:10):
Don't know. You know, somebody probably
stole it, intercepted the package, was like, oh, he's
mailing this stuff off, you know, went through, you know,
went through the package. I don't know.
So they believe it and they think they've got a watch that
was on the moon. Now NASA comes back now and they
say, oh, we, we've got to have that stuff back.
(27:30):
We have to have it back. Why do you think that is?
I have a theory. I have a theory about that.
I'm going to tell it to you right now because I know you
want to hear it, right. You see, this is not a matic
watch, OK? It's just a wristwatch.
I watch. I watch.
I watch different YouTube videoson watch repair, watch cleaning,
(27:55):
just watches in general because,like I said, I like watches.
What I've noticed is you take a wristwatch.
These guys are pulling them apart and they're absolutely
filthy. So you've got to watch.
And like this one that hasn't been serviced in 10 years.
I'm sure if they opened it up and pulled the links off, it
would have all kinds of crud allup underneath it that you can't
(28:20):
see right now and you can't get to until you turn, until you
open it up and all of a sudden it just falls out of everywhere.
So we know that's a fact. So imagine this same watch being
on the moon for a while now. According to NASA, the moon dust
up there is thick. It gets all over everything, it
(28:43):
gets in everything, it covers everything.
You can't get it off. It just embeds itself in
everything. Supposedly got all in their
space suits and all. Can't get, can't get the stuff
off of you. Stains up the material 'cause it
gets in it and just stains it. You can't get it off.
So my theory is NASA was probably like, OK, we've we've
(29:09):
lost our moon watch. We've lost one.
What if a watchmaker opens up this wristwatch and a bunch of
dust falls out? Moon dust.
Are you following me here? Moon dust.
And let's just say he gets a hankering to get it tested.
(29:33):
And come to find out, it's not dust from the moon, but it's
dust from over here in the desert, you know, or it's not
dust from the moon. It's cement dust from the fake
stage that was set up for the fake Apollo moon landing.
(29:56):
So we don't want anybody testingthe dust.
In other words, that dust can never be seen by anybody other
than us, so we need to get thosewatches back ASAP.
So then you're thinking to yourself, well, would that
really happen? Would they even care?
(30:17):
Yes, they would. And here is how I know they
would because here is the next story.
Now, this doesn't have to do with a watch, but this does have
to do with moon dust. OK, and so let me get my article
pulled up here. So this came up on a podcast I
(30:46):
listened to here while back withBart Sabrel.
Again, I'm I'm I've got an interview scheduled for him is
coming up. But so I'm going to mention this
to him. He mentioned, you know, about
how NASA did and how strict theyare with their moon dust and
moon rocks. You see, because supposedly
(31:07):
these astronauts came back with over £800 of moon rocks.
Now, during this time, they gaveaway little pieces of these moon
rocks, like the marble size in these plaques to all these
different countries and they have them on display.
Keep in mind they don't look anything like the moon rocks
(31:27):
that they show pictures of. They look completely different.
Well, one of these moon rocks that was given to a country, I
can't move the country. You can look it up.
They actually wanted to get theirs insured or something.
They took it out of the case andhad it tested and lo and behold,
guess what? I think it's Dutch, the Dutch
(31:48):
government, Lo and behold, it's fake.
It's not even a moon rock from space.
If would you know what it was, It was a piece of petrified
wood. So NASA gave these people fake
moon rocks. One person, one company, 1
(32:08):
government actually opened the thing up and tested it.
And guess what? It's not a rock from outer
space. It's not a rock from the moon.
It's from right here on Earth, and it's a piece of petrified
wood. That's all it was.
So why would they do that? Well, probably because they're
all fake, right? I mean, logically there is no
(32:30):
such thing as a moon rock. So everything they gave out was
fake. So of course nobody's allowed to
see no normal. And in this podcast, the guys
are go, how would we know? We can't test these moon.
We need to get some moon rocks in here and test them.
That's never going to happen. There is no individual person
that has a brain in their head that's going to get to test
(32:53):
anything. The only people that get a hold
of this stuff is other government people and people
that are in on this scam. If you ain't in on the scam,
you're not going to get to look at the thing except through a
piece of glass. You're never going to get to
touch it, let alone test it. So one of the things they
(33:13):
mentioned that happened to do with these moon rocks was a
grandma. And I found the story and it's
real. There was a 70 year old woman
and basically the news story wasa grandma got busted for selling
a moon rock. So the lady's name was Joan
(33:36):
Davis and she was an elderly California widow and she somehow
got caught up in the NASA Officeof Inspector General.
Didn't even know what existed after trying to sell a tiny
piece of lunar material embeddedin a lucite or acrylic
(33:57):
paperweight. OK, so here's what happened.
Joan Davis, this old lady in hermid 70s, and this was in 2011.
She was described as a widow anda grandmother.
Her late husband's name was, let's see, what was his name?
(34:17):
His name was Robert Davis and hehad worked on the Apollo
program, but he worked for NorthAmerican Rockwell.
So he was some kind of an engineer or scientist working on
the Apollo program. What he did is during this time
in Apollo, he acquired apparently legally, because this
(34:42):
thing, he got it from NASA, fromthe Apollo program and it was a
paperweight. Like this big is a big, pretty
big paperweight and and it's clear like real heavy.
And in the very center of this thing, it had a teeny tiny
speck, smaller than a grain of rice.
(35:03):
That teeny tiny speck was supposedly a speck of moon dust.
OK, I'm serious. Well, he brings this thing home
and has it for years until he dies.
And now she is pushing 80 year old widow who is, you know,
needs the money. She lives in California.
(35:24):
I mean, look what's going on in California.
Of course you're going to need the money over there, right?
Taxes through the roof. I mean, God knows what's going
on over there. So of course you're going to
need the money. So she decides what her husband
had left it to her, gave it to her and she's like, well, I want
to get rid of this thing. So she listed it somewhere,
(35:44):
probably on eBay and said, look,this is a teeny tiny speck of
moon dust came from the Apollo program.
My husband brought it home. I want to sell it.
So she was trying to sell it andapparently she had an offer from
a guy who offered her 1.7 million and she's like sold.
(36:07):
So let's see here. So she wasn't really talking to
a real buyer. She was talking to an undercover
NASA guy. I mean, seriously, over a speck
of dust in trapped, sealed in a big thick piece of Lucite.
(36:32):
So in other words, you ain't never getting it out.
OK. I mean, think about that picture
that. So let's see.
So they investigate this for months and they they, they come
up with an under undercover buying.
So they're going to buy it from her and they're undercover
agents. They're not real buyers.
(36:56):
The meeting takes place at a Denny's.
So she meets the buyer of a moonspeck of moon dust at Denny's
and of course in Southern California, says it happened at
Lake Elsamore, Riverside County area, OK.
(37:16):
And when she arrived with the Lucite Paperwhite paperweight
agents moved in and seized the item.
So this goes on to say she was not ultimately charged.
NASA experts supposedly later confirmed that the lunar
(37:37):
material was authentic, but the prosecutors did not file
charges. Don't know why.
Maybe because, you know, she didn't steal it or anything.
She got it from her husband as agift, apparently.
No big deal. He walked right out of there
with it. However, now, as of now, and as
(37:58):
of when that happened, all Apollo lunar samples are treated
as controlled government property.
Private sales are strictly prohibited.
In fact, any moon dust is treated as a national treasure,
(38:19):
and it's a felony to have it. If you're not NASA, it's theirs.
So NASA says all moon dust and all moon rocks belong to them.
It's theirs. So here.
(38:39):
Here we are folks. If you're a pushing an 80 year
old geriatric woman and you own a piece of a speck of moon dust,
don't you even dare think about trying to sell it.
Why? Because the federal agents will
Swatch you and you'll probably end up in prison for life now.
(39:00):
She didn't, but surprised all over.
A speck of moon dust. Now they call it.
Whenever you read the articles, they keep calling it a moon
rock. A moon rock.
So you know, you're thinking of something this big, right?
You're thinking of something thesize of your fist.
(39:20):
A rock. Oh, that's a big rock.
It's not, It's not a rock. It's smaller than a grain of
rice. Like a grain of sand.
A speck. If it was to fall on the floor,
it would be lost forever. It would be literally a piece of
dust blown away. So they actually conducted a
(39:44):
sting and arrested somebody at Denny's for having a speck of
moon dust in a paperweight lucite where you can't even get
to it. Now why would they do that?
My theory is, which is the same as Bart Sabrails the theory.
Is they don't want even a chanceof anybody cracking that thing
(40:07):
open in the future and taking that little speck of dust and
testing it and say that's just apiece of sand right here off the
floor that didn't come from the moon.
It's literally a piece of sand out of the driveway.
It's nothing. There's nothing special about
it. But see, somehow back in the
60s, this guy walked right out of NASA with it.
(40:29):
It's no big deal. But see, back then, they had no
idea the Internet was even goingto exist.
They had no idea that people were going to be able to get
online and find out that it was a hoax.
They had no clue people could actually communicate about this
and listen to a podcast about the fake moon landings, you see.
(40:53):
And then people might actually investigate it.
And people with way more stuff than they had back then can say,
oh, let me have that. I'll just take and test it right
under this microscope right here.
And I'll take they didn't think about that, so they didn't have
to worry about controlling it. They figured it'd just
disappear. Just a piece of sand, right?
Who cares? Well, now all of a sudden, a
piece of new, a piece of a moon dust comes up for sale on eBay.
(41:19):
They're like, what? Somebody has some moon dust?
That's not us and not the Smithsonian.
Well, SWAT them, arrest them. I'm surprised they didn't just
shoot her. I'm surprised they didn't show
up with a SWAT team and just just spray the whole place with
bullets and kill everybody in the whole place.
I'm surprised that that sounds more like what they would do.
(41:43):
So if they're that ridiculous over a speck of dust, is there
any wonder why they went and gotall the watches and anything
that went to the moon had to come back to them?
Is there any wonder 'cause they oh, a watch got lost?
What if it has a speck of moon dust on it or in it, embedded in
(42:04):
the in the bezel or embedded in the band?
Somebody might test it. Somebody might realize where it
came from. So yes, that all that is a true
story, by the way. But just think about that for a
second. Supposedly people can go to
(42:30):
Antarctica and the desert and all kinds of places, and
supposedly there are rocks from the moon, meteorites from the
moon, which are nothing more than supposedly something has
hit the moon and went poof and blew rocks up into the air.
And these rocks have made their way back down to Earth.
So apparently, if you pick up a moon rock from the ground, you
(42:55):
can have it. But if you have a moon rock that
NASA picked up from the moon, well, you better not get caught
with it. Put it that way.
You're a felon. They'll probably put you in a
gulag somewhere and that you'll never be seen again.
Why? Because see, if you walk out
there. This is my opinion, by the way.
(43:17):
This is my theory. If you're walking in Antarctica,
what, you can't get there anyway?
But let's pretend that you could, and you stumble upon a
moon rock from outer space and you pick it up and you're like,
I got me a moon rock, Got it right here.
Well, that's fine. Because see, if somebody tests
it and it turns out to be nothing more than petrified
(43:37):
wood, they're going to say, well, of course, because you
picked it up down there in Antarctica and you don't know
anything about it. You see, you're an idiot.
So you didn't even pick up a moon rock.
You just thought you did. That's because you're an idiot.
Only NASA can pick up moon rocks.
Don't you know that? Don't you know only NASA can get
(44:00):
this stuff done? Not you.
And you don't work for NASA. You're not a Mason, you don't
have a top secret clearance, so you're never going to get to see
a moon rock except in pictures. So obviously you pick up a moon
rock. They can say you didn't really
(44:21):
pick up a moon Rock. You just thought you picked up a
moon rock. But if you have a moon rock that
came off the space shuttle, they're going to say, well, now
this one's real, see, because wepicked it up off the moon.
Now let's test it. Oh, no.
Oh, no. We test it and we tell you that
it's real. Everything goes through us.
(44:42):
You know, that way we can control everything.
So we can literally you can. You can be looking at a rock out
of your driveway, but if we haveit in our hands, it could be a
moon rock. But you're never going to get to
know the difference you see. So they don't want the watch
floating around because it couldhave moon dust on it.
(45:03):
Now that's my opinion. I don't know.
So I don't know you'd be the judge on that.
However, all this to say, I met a guy at the airport who no
longer wants an Omega watch because he thinks that the moon
landing is fake. Well, I mean, kudos for that.
(45:25):
And but like I told him, I have an Omega and I believe it's
fake. Obviously, let's see, Omega
doesn't know that Omega has to go by the same information that
all these other people go by propaganda and they just assume
it's true and it doesn't hurt. I was like, hey, you know, if,
(45:45):
if 50% of the population believes we went to the moon and
they were wearing an Omega when they did it, put it on the
website, hey, produce a moon watch.
Maybe somebody will buy it, markthat price up a little bit.
After all, it's a replica that went to the moon.
So maybe here in the near future, you know, we can, we can
(46:08):
come up with one that went to Mars, maybe with Elon, maybe
Elon will take one to Mars, but he may not like Omega.
I don't know. He may be wearing a Timex for
all I know. Who knows?
Anyway, I just thought I'd throwthat thing out there.
Yeah, thanks for listening, by the way.
I just thought I'd throw that out there.
(46:28):
I need to get another one, another podcast done.
And it was interesting. And I like moon rocks.
I like talking about moon rocks,like talking about wristwatches.
Like I said, I'm going to come up with another one with Bart
Sabrel here real soon. We're going to talk about his
interview he had with the astronaut.
You know, I think it's going to be good.
(46:49):
I think he was MK Ultred. Another guy thinks he's MK
Ultred, but he may just be a liar.
You know, it's funny on these, on these astronauts, they're
well like like Buzz and all these others.
They're usually always Masons. A lot of times they're 33rd, 33°
Masons, which is the highest youcan get.
(47:10):
It's an honorary title. So you can go up to 32, but then
you have to be promoted to 33. It's an honorary deal.
You can't just buy it. So in order to be that level and
have a top secret clearance, obviously you have to be able to
keep a secret. So you have to be very
(47:30):
trustworthy with secrets or you will never reach it to begin
with. So it stands to reason that
these Apollo astronauts are all in the same club, the secret
keeping club. So they're either keeping the
secret of that, you know, you know they are, but there's a
chance they got MK altered at the same time.
I don't know for sure. But either way, let me know what
(47:54):
you think. Leave a comment as always before
I get off of here real quick. There we go.
There's a Flat Earth Bible on Amazon if you want to check that
out. My kills Deck Chronicles by
Doctor Kenny Williamson on Spotify and all other podcast
platforms. By the way, there it is on
YouTube Kills Deck Ronald by Kenny Williamson, and I'm also
(48:18):
on Rumble. I'm also on Patreon.
I need to get a picture of that up there too.
Can't remember the name on that.I think it's the same thing.
Anyway, hey, thanks for listening.
You have any questions, comments, concerns, you can
e-mail me at truthseekers2012@gmail.com.
Check out it's flatbro.com. Check out Truth seekers
(48:41):
ministry.org. Thanks for listening until we
meet again. God bless you.
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