Bond Henry | Singer/Songwriter - Melodies N' Memories: Music Media

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Speaker 1 (01:59):
Ooh, look at that Nailed it.
They're good.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah, i feel like you changed the layout on me.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
No, The font.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Yeah, something threw my eyeballs off.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, i changed out the font on it.
That's funny, man.
You know what I just realized?
We come on here and go liveright at 7.
We kind of just BS talk alittle bit.
Welcome everybody.
I always edit that part out ofthe show every week The audio.
When you listen to it streaming, they hear you first Read all
that And then we just go rightinto the guest.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
I'm like we never really like intro us or talk
before that I'm like we're notchanging things up for our next
season.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
We're almost close to the end of the season.
All right, y'all, we areexcited for tonight.
This is going to be a fun one.
We've done a few.
This might be our fourth orfifth in-studio guest we've had,
so we brought in a local guyAKA in basement.
But I don't know if this guy'sgoing to be much local much
longer, because he's on the paththat I'm going to tell you big
things coming out of this guysoon.
So, tonight we are welcomingBond Henry for episode 167, an

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incredibly giftedsinger-songwriter hailing from
the Windy City, bond spent hisearly days strumming a guitar to
now being an establishedsinger-songwriter.
Bond Henry's dedication to thiscraft has been unwavering, with
a smooth and soulful voice thatresonates with audiences of all
ages.
His lyrics come straight fromthe heart and leave it lasting
impression.
He attributes success to hisstrong work ethic and commitment

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to his family, always puttingthem first in his life.
We are honored to discuss themelodies and memories tonight
that make up Bond's journey.
We're going to welcome on in.
Oh, you don't get a countdownbecause you're in studio.
Look at that.
Nobody's a guest.
Get a 3-2-1 on their screenbefore they come on.
You didn't get that becauseyou're here, dude.
Welcome man.
This is fun because we actuallycould look at you and actually

(03:38):
have a conversation I'm having ahard time looking at you.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
I'm just staring at all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
I got the show off the museum.
It's a little overwhelming rightGood thing he's a Cubs fan
because he liked the Cubs Wallstuff.
Yeah, it doesn't really flywith Socks fans.
sometimes We converted you over.
You were Socks.
But, dude, welcome on, we'reexcited to have you tonight.
man, i was trying to look.
I think it's been like twoyears now that we kind of first.

(04:06):
okay, you reached out onInstagram one time and we
started talking.
I came off to carols and shotone of your shows and yeah, it
was just impressive because,like you saw these three guys up
there and I could have swore Iwas seeing like a five-piece
band and what you guys wereplaying.
But it's only the three-piece.
I was like damn man, that's abig sound for these guys.
So I want to throw it back.
man, it's kind of growing up.
man, what was it being playedaround your house?

(04:27):
What was your inspirations at ayoung age?
Like your first music memory.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
So my dad's a musician.
He grew up in Tennessee andjust pretty much my entire life
all I've ever heard was JohnnyCash being played on acoustic
guitar, and so you know probablythe first I was thinking about
that I remember.
The first song that I rememberhim playing me was actually the

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song Green Green Grass of Homeby Porter Wagner.
That and Give My Love to Roseby Johnny Cash.
And I remember just being a kidand like those songs, i remember
how sad they were.
I used to like start cryingwhen I would hear them, like I
just thought it was like, likeit was like the end of the world
or something you know.

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And then like I think that justwhen you that, just pretty much
in my family, my aunt, shetaught me how to play guitar And
before she passed away shetaught me how to play guitar.
My uncle was like the numberone Elvis impersonator in the
world.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
That's cool.
We had an Elvis impersonator atour wedding.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
Was it Rick Sosito?

Speaker 4 (05:40):
I have no idea, but I would not be surprised We'll
have to pull out our weddingalbums.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
It was what 12 years ago He trained that guy to.
He was like his underling.
He passed the torch of beingElvis.
We got.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Mary in Bristol, wisconsin.
So if he covers southeastWisconsin, he's all in this area
.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Okay, very well put about I could have.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
I had been him Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
My grandmother was a songwriter.
She she was very, like you know, very poor and growing up, So
one of the things that she toldme she used to do was they would
, she would write songs and shewould go over to Nashville.
She worked in the Peabody hotel, but she would write songs, go
to Sun Studios, go to Nashvilleand sell them for nothing.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
You're telling me she's from Tupelo, right Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:24):
So, she was same street as Elvis lived on the
same street.
Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
So yeah.
So, like she claims I don'tknow how to, there's a bunch of
famous country songs that shehad written that she sold
because she was so broke.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
Yeah, wow.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
I don't know if it's true, but Yeah, you gotta do it.
That's what she claims.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
That's crazy.
So you born and raised inChicago, man, i love it.
You spent some time outside thecity, but what is this crazy
for you just growing up in thisarea, what was like kind of
Chicago for you like music wise?
Would you ever listen to a lotof Chicago music at all?
Yeah, like local stuff.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
I mean, i don't even like when I was younger I don't
even know what like to me likelocal, i didn't even really know
that.
it was like a scene really.
Yeah, like when I was young weused to go down in Memphis all
the time is where my sisterlived And my mom would take us
on to Beale Street and we wouldjust literally go stand on Beale
Street and listen to blue musictill two or three in the
morning.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, as like little kids, so Must be some Beale
Street.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
Yeah, So your aunt taught you how to play guitar.
how old were you?
I started playing when I wasvery, very small.
I mean, since I I don'tremember a time when I wasn't
playing it, and I still havethat guitar.
It's a Yamaha nylon stringguitar.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Nice, and you remember where she got it from.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
I have no idea.
She just brought it to me oneday and she gave it to me.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Cause.
that's cool.
My first one came from musicaround.
I'll never forget that, yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
I just remember they're like here's your guitar.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
That's awesome.
So how, how does she teach you?
I mean, was it YouTube videos,tableture books?
I mean, how, how did you learnguitar, like kind of what was
the methods?

Speaker 5 (07:52):
She.
Well, initially she would justcome over every day and she
would just sit and show me howto play just the chords.
Basically I learned playingchords first and then you know
more like not theory, but shewould show me, like she would
teach me, how to play you knowLed Zeppelin solos, like
stairway to heaven, stuff likethat, and you know, i learned a

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lot of that growing up And shepassed away.
I kind of stopped playing andthen when I got a little bit
older I started playing it moreand more, cause like my dad
would teach me how to play too,but he was just a, you know,
country strummer, he just playedchords and sing, so he didn't
really play any lead or anything.
But you know, obviously, goingto Beale Street I wanted to be a
blues soloist And then comingback to Chicago too.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
I mean Chicago's home of the blues.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Exactly In a way boys , it's like that's.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
I was just going to say that's where the blues
influence between Memphis andChicago.
Man, that's just that's homeFor sure.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
And I was, like you know, getting getting like a
fake ID I'd go to like buddyguys and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
So Kings and Mines blues.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
you know stuff like that, So that's cool.
They never really carded youanyways, yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
We used to live when we were in Mississippi.
We spent a lot of time inMemphis.
Man, there's a corner like BBKings over there and something
was always cool, Cause likethere'd be people playing the
street but they'd be so damngood.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
So many talented people just playing everywhere.
It's such great.
Half of them would be blind.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
I don't know why they are.
I don't know if that was athing, but no, I gotta say Half
of them, half of them.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
I'm just, you're always blind And they can play
like none other.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Get out.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
One of my favorite bands is North Mississippi All.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Stars.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Oh man.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
I've seen them live so many times, man, they just
they're they.
To me, i think they are thebest live band you can ever like
.
They're I mean they're.
You know they've been playingtogether their whole lives, or
brothers but like there is notighter band that I've ever seen
, they're good, they're justincredible And they're all over
the place.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
No matter where you look, festival wise or for years
, you will see North Mississippi, all Stars on that line of
somewhere, the North MississippiAll Star live at Bonnaroo album
.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
Oh my God, i remember I bought it on Beale Street
from this guy and he goes.
he goes.
if I sell you this album, youngone, don't come back to me when
you get a speeding ticket.
And I just laughed and I waslike, well, this is going to be
good.
I got a few You gotta be a goodone.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
There's a few speeding tickets on.
I'm like, okay, i got to slowit down a little bit.
We always like to ask to yourfirst concert experience that
you remember like kind of justlike who was it and what should
you kind of take away from justgoing there, if anything?

Speaker 5 (10:22):
So growing up, my uncle Jim Jimet.
He performed all the times likecounty, county fairs, state
fairs, and he actually played.
I remember the first time I sawthe Kentucky headhunters he
opened for them.
Oh okay, i saw them hit myuncle play with the Kentucky
headhunters.
I remember that.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Oh man, that's cool dude.
Did you know then?
did you say, hey, I want to dosomething like that, or did you
feel that at all?

Speaker 5 (10:46):
I always just like, just, I always wanted to do it,
but I just never thought I wouldever be that good.
Yeah, yeah, You know what Imean.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah , Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah.
I dabble with it a little bithere and there.
So, oh, all right, All right.
So talk about, yeah, talk abouta little bit about your uncle
man, because when I wasresearching for this show, he
kept humming up like your uncleJim.
This kept coming up, that name,and what kind of influence did
he have on you man?
What kind of guy was he?

Speaker 5 (11:13):
So my uncle, jimet, was like you know.
Like I said, he was an Elvisimpersonator, but he would have.
He's probably one of the peoplethat really showed me how to
write songs, because he wasalways writing songs And the
first time I ever recorded analbum I recorded five songs at a
studio And at the time the onlyreason I got to record him he
was recording this campaign.

(11:34):
He was also like a golf pro.
He was a golf hustler So hewould play golf against people
for money all the time, like hewas an incredible golfer, and so
he met all these like big wigsplaying golf.
And I remember he was recordinga campaign for Budweiser at the
time where it was like he wasgoing to take all these old

(11:55):
videos of like famous rock showson I was at Dick Clark right,
the Beatles and all that.
So I remember one of them washe was going to redo Only the
Lonely by Roy Orberson, but itwas going to be Only Budweiser.
And he did like 10 of these andthen he goes okay, there's an
hour left.
You guys go in there and recordfor the last hour, because his

(12:16):
friends that he used to playwith in this band called
Scramble.
They owned the studio And theyI think they were in that band
casting crowns that.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Christian band believed.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
One of the guys that he used to play with was in that
band.
Are they recorded there orsomething.
So it was like a really big,nice studio And we like there
was me, my cousin and my brotherAnd he's like all right, go in
there and record.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
That's all, yes, but he was.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
I mean like he was like a larger than life figure.
I mean, everywhere you went,everybody knew this guy, like he
knew everybody everywhere,always playing, like every time
we had a family party.
He's playing guitar, singingsongs.
He was.
You just go to his house.
He's like walking aroundwriting songs and making his
wife mad, singing about whatevershe's doing, which is what I do

(13:02):
today.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Did he try to look like Elvis too?
He was impersonating.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
He had to pay for a while and then I think he just
gave that up.
He just went with the, with the, with the bald head.
Oh, he got rid of that.
He went bald.
So he had to pay for a whileand then he went there, that's
awesome.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
I bet you probably have to go a little bit Elvis
music, though, no no I mean.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
I'm still convinced that his real father is Elvis
Presley because he looks justlike him And he well, he did
before he passed away.
He looked just like him andhe's.
I've never heard any.
But I was just literally at ablack party on Saturday.
I played, or a private event, Iplayed this, this, talking to
these women, and these olderwomen were like, yeah, I think
we know your uncle, for rememberhim from back in the day.
And I was like, yeah, I thinkhe's.

(13:46):
Like I've never heard anybodysing that close to Elvis in my
life, Like he's dead.
I mean dead on like singingwise.
I'm like maybe, maybe somethinghappened Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
It crossed paths somewhere.
What is it?

Speaker 5 (13:58):
What is that movie?
3000 Miles of Graceland?

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, So you have a favorite Elvis song Oh, I like
Mystery.
Train.
Okay, mine's always in theghetto just because it talks
about Chicago.
Yeah, that's a good one.
I like I go with the Indiegatobecause it talks about Chicago,
perfect.
So we talked a little bit aboutcash and who else kind of
shaped your music growing up?

(14:20):
Maybe in their high schoolyears?
Because when you start gettingto high school at least for me,
I listened to everything.
My parents, didn't want me tolisten to.
Yeah, i made sure I listened tothat.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I listened to all that good stuff But kind of like
when you got into a littleolder in life.
who were you listening to?

Speaker 5 (14:37):
When I was like younger, I was always all my
cousins.
I was always listening to likehip hop music.
Nice, All just straight.
I was like a big hip hop head.
I listened to everything Andlike I was a graffiti artist, I
would like break, dance and allthat stuff, Like I was just
fully into it, you know, andlike you said, I mean my parents
didn't listen to that, Buteveryone around me was.

(15:00):
So, you know, that's what Ipretty much listened to, you
know like.
And then as I got older, Istill listen to it.
But you know, I just I startedlistening back to more country
stuff Once I started reallyplaying guitar, seriously
playing shows, and a lot of myearly recordings are like kind
of like citizen cope stuff, LikeI had all the drum beats from

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like hip hop and then I playacoustic guitar over it.
So it's always there, Like youknow if you listen to one of my
songs, Night Train.
You could hear the 808s in thebackground.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Nice, so nice.
So who's this in this picturewith you and the guitar?

Speaker 5 (15:33):
So that's my Aunt Jeanie, right there.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
I found that picture I was like I have to use it.
That's a cool picture, that'sawesome.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
So, she's the one that would come over and teach
me how to play guitar.
She gave me that There'sanother one where I have a
little piano.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
I'll say you're young , they're playing, oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
And then she upgraded me to the Yamaha which I still
have.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Nice dude, i love that you were surrounded by
musical influences, you know,and that was such a part of your
upbringing.
I think that's super cool.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
I love that was an Aunt and Uncle too.
I don't think we've ever had itwhere an Aunt and Uncle was
kind of like the more dominantmusical family, because I mean I
always looked up to my uncle inWest.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
Virginia.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
We had him on the show here last summer or
something.
And then we had him on the showand I always looked up to him.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
He was big influence for you.
It was really cool.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
He was the one who got me into my first concert I
ever saw and everything else wasa kiss.
I was 27, I was 2DM young.
We had a kiss show, but atleast back then I was.
But they're a little differentnow.
They're a little more familyfriendly now, but hey, whatever.
So, dude, something that reallykind of like when I first heard
of you and started digging intoyou as your songwriting, it was
really unique.
It had a different style to it,I felt, and I really love just

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listening to a lot of your songs.
When did songwriting comearound for you?
Like, how old were you?
When did you start writing?
Did you write poetry orjournals or anything before that
?

Speaker 5 (16:48):
I say, probably the first thing I remember writing
was so I used to go to thisoutreach program in the city.
It was, like you know, one ofthose programs to make sure you
didn't join a gang like that.
I did that.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
Keep you up the street, Yeah it was like a keep
you up.
It was called Midtown and itwas a really good program.
I mean, i love the program.
I think that today I thinkevery kid should go to it,
because they did some reallycool stuff took us to concerts,
took us to the Symphony Hall butone of the things that they did
was they bring people in likeexperts, in like different
fields.
So one of the things that theydid was they made us write like

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poetry about whatever.
So one time we had to writethis poetry thing about our
families and I wrote this poemand all the parents were crying
at the thing that I wrote And Iwas like why are you?
crying.
What's going?
on This is just an assignmentthey gave me.
So then after that I was kindof like, oh, I'm actually pretty
good at this writing poetrything, Yeah, And I was like I'm

(17:45):
not doing that just throughouthigh school.
Just then I went to collegejust kept writing and pretty
much once I decided I wanted tostart doing songs and that was
it.
Like I started writing morestructured songs.
I always wrote journals andstuff like that, But then I was
like, okay, let me sit down andfigure out like how do you write
a song, kind of.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Thing.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
And then I was probably like 18, 19 years old
when I really started doing that.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Did you have any favorite song writers around
that time?
Did you ever look at the linernotes and CDs or sets or?

Speaker 5 (18:14):
anything like that.
You want to know.
It's funny when this is kind ofembarrassing.
But I remember when I was likereally getting the music, i
would read through the thing andI'm like, man, who is this
artist feet?
This guy is on every track.
And then I go, oh, that'sfeaturing.
This guy has got to be abillionaries, but he's on every

(18:35):
song I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
That's like what's that?

Speaker 2 (18:39):
DJ Khaled, another one, and another one.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
Who's this feet guy?
This guy is incredible.
I couldn't find him online, sothat's awesome, that's amazing,
but here's one of my favorites.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Oh yeah, he's fantastic, he's everywhere, he's
everywhere.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
Mainly honestly like just Listening to the Johnny.
Like I like, everything Ilisten to when I was a kid was
Johnny Cash.
So like I do, you could.
I mean, if you listen to my mysongs, most of them are like
stories and stuff like that.
That's what I mean connectivemusic and that's pretty much
storytellers.
That's pretty much where I juststarted writing stories really
is what I kind of figured, youknow, like, and that was the

(19:17):
easiest thing to do.
I wasn't really trying to Doanything really too Too clever,
you know.
And then, like, when I reallystarted getting into songwriting
, i remember the.
The one thing that I took stuckwith me was from Tom Petty and
he said don't bore us, get tothe chorus.
And You know he's like, you canwrite like, basically, if you

(19:37):
know how to write, you don'thave to write a thousand words.
You, if you understand words,you understand how to write a
song that had one word, has fivemeanings in the song, and then
that, like, you leave it openfor interpretation and everybody
can figure out what that songmeans to them.
I think that's the best way towrite a song.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Oh, absolutely.
I think you connect with morepeople that way too.
Yeah you know, and I, i lovethat.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Well, i mean like just talking about your song
right a little bit and it's justamazing.
But your lyrics are verypersonal and heartfelt and how
do you decide like kind of whatexperiences it takes songs from?
and if you ever had One way, itwas just really tough to write,
but you knew you had to writeit.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
Um, i Try to think like I Probably where you know
where the road is.
The last song I released,that's a pretty good, that's a
song.
There was like kind of like youknow, it's kind of about my
life and like all the thingsI've done and mistakes I've made
, and you know, i mean It's it'svery personal and I mean that's

(20:33):
to me that song is.
It's like sums up pretty muchmy journey to this point.
And You know, i think it's likea That was a hard one to really
like figure out.
What, like, what do I, whatparts of my life are important
enough to tell you like, hey,here's something I did that was

(20:55):
stupid.
Here's something I did likedon't you know what I mean?
like kind of like a cautionarytale, but like the story
continues.
Mm-hmm and I think that was ahard one to figure out what
parts to put in.
This thought, the song that Ijust did, that I'm releasing
soon Poor man's dollar, that'sanother one because it's about
my dad and just trying to figureout, like How do you, how do

(21:20):
you write a song about somebodythat's honest.
But you know, like in The endyou know you're trying to convey
like, what like in that songWhat did this person go through?
What are their experiencesThrough my, my eyes?
but obviously I don't know his,his side of the story.
I know my, like, what I've seenand all the things he's told me

(21:42):
.
You know what I mean.
So you get like a lot of it.
Just that song is to me likehe's told me all these stories
And this is basically what thestories he told me, the things
that he's done.
So it's kind of like I'm tryingto tell his story accurately,
honestly.
You know what I mean, notincriminate him in any way.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah, let's call it.
It's from your perspective toyou know from the way he told
the story to you and how youinterpreted that story, and
You're retelling his now, so Ithink that's a cool perspective,
yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
So when did you really start playing shows like
I don't about, like you shouldremember, like kind of your
first early his shows?

Speaker 5 (22:19):
Yeah, actually I do.
So I mean I always obviously myuncle's doing stuff, i would
sit in and play with them, but Inever got to play, you know,
like live or anything.
And I remember.
So I, when I first startedplaying, i I was like man, i was
very nervous about going tolike an open mic night.
I'm like I don't know, likeobviously people around you're
like, oh yeah, you're reallygood, you should go do it.

(22:41):
And Then so then I was likereally nervous, i'm like I don't
want to go to this, i'm notgonna do it.
Then one day my buddy He was ina band, a heavy metal band, of
all things He was he went toDePaul, it was called no fate
and he's he's actually a musicproducer now.
But he was like, hey, ouropening act dropped out.
Do you want to open for us?

(23:02):
Just do an acoustic show?
and I'm like all right.
So, like that was it, like Ididn't have an excuse at that
point.
I Showed up, played the show,then that was it.
And then, you know, i the, igot nothing but positive
feedback and then I was like allright, i can do this.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
I was gonna say how did an acoustic show go before a
heavy metal band?
I'm like that could be iffywith the crowd at times.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
It was good, because I played a lot of like old
country stuff Okay, and I thinkthere is a definitely an overlap
between Johnny Cash and MerleHaggard and stuff like that,
like a lot of the metal headsare like They listen to that.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
I think when cash released hurt changed the game a
lot too.
Yeah, he took a nice nail songand made it his own and dude.
It changed everything, i thinkthat was playing around.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
The time that I really started playing was about
right, right around there.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
It's like mid to late 90s or so.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
Yeah, it was like right, right 2005.
Okay so that was about.
I mean, that was like that songwas still popular.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah.
I remember that so yeah, i feellike that was like kind of one
of those turning points and likemusic, music Over the years was
when he put that song out.
I was just like, just thinkabout make sure your hair and
all that video dude.

Speaker 5 (24:03):
If you watch, do you watch that video?

Speaker 1 (24:05):
You're just like yeah , it was right before he died.
Yeah, that's what?
yeah.
That's a eerie video to watchso you have to play House of
Blues in Chicago, which I betyou that was a lot of fun.
Any other places you played inaround and you play our buddy
Dave Canavan's place at M Ryle afew times here and there, and
have you played out of wendycity yet?
Or no what was that?

(24:25):
What about wendy city?
was that one he has?
and to Brigleyville, oh.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Really Bill North.
Yeah, i've played there, playedWrigley North, i Mean.
I've played pretty much the met, everything we've done at all
the metro.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
I was playing the metro because that's like that
place has history.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
We played House of Blues, we played I think we
played martyrs, pretty much allthe mid-level places.
We've done it all.
They're all cool.
House of Blues I mean, probablymy favorite, just cuz that's a
big.
That's a big.
It was a big show.
The venue is just incredible.
Everything like the backstageis cool.
Yeah, you drive underneath thelower wacker to get in there.

(25:04):
Yeah craters, potholes on theground You like terrible,
crashing into it.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
It's terrible, but parking is terrible.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
They will be, there It's a cool venue.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Everything getting there is awful.
Yeah, we're shooting a rap show.
They're Thursdays.
Carol's is cool the one youcame to.
I like Carol's.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Carol's is cool.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Carol's is probably my favorite places right now and
I love Joe's don't get me wrong, but I think Dave and Ed it's
more intimate.
Change the game too.
But I like Carol's is cuz nomatter who's there, always has a
crop.
Yeah, um, they have so manylocals and regulars that show up
there.
I mean they're always bringingcrowd in that place, which is
awesome.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
I mean I told my uncle's playing there.
He's like Carol's, that placeis dangerous.
He's like we used to go inthere and brawl and fight people
there.
I'm like I don't think that'sthe same crowd, That's the only
man.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
No, we've heard stories about Carol's too.
when he told me that the firsttime I'm like wait what?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
They said chicken wire in front of the stage and
all that stuff, man That's justheard some crazy stories about
that place but now they cleanedit up.
It looks nice.
I love Isle and while I wasamazing He's got a little better
lighting, but that's always funman, he does get things there,
always had some good acts.
I wish he would do in oursongwriters event.
He did it the songwriters roundthere at one time.

(26:21):
Yeah, everybody was just tooDamn noisy.
I don't have to yell ateverybody.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
Was it Austin Edwards ?

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, I think I'm the fuck up.
What did?

Speaker 4 (26:33):
he really?
Yeah, i remember Dave shirt,sorry mine is the band
interrupting your conversation?

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Remember that shirt.
That was a cool shirt.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Actually the picture was showing is the you house of
blues man That's awesome dudeThat's cool shit.
I love that man.
Good for you, so is there anyshows you played over the years
that have been memorable.
And then, on the other side ofspectrum that you just said, i
cannot wait for this damn showto be over with.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
Yes, i played a show one time at Uncle Faddy's Okay.
So what happened was my one ofmy buddies, my old bass player,
my old band.
He was in another band beforeand they were called Main Street
Minority Okay, and they weredoing a charity event and so
they rented the place out Andthey didn't tell us was.

(27:17):
The charity event ended at likeeight o'clock and so they're
like, oh, you're gonna play itlike 830.
So we show up and There's thesepeople there.
They're like.
They're like, where are the?
what's that band called?
There's a cover band.
The setting is spasmatic.
Yeah they're an astral all thetime.
Yeah, I think that was the bandthere.
They were supposed to bescheduled to play or something,

(27:37):
and then they got canceledbecause there was like a
miscommunication, and so all thepeople were furious that we
were there.
They were just screaming at uslike, get off the stage.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
So they thought someone else was gonna be, there
.
They're like where are the?

Speaker 1 (27:48):
spasmatics.
They have a following, theyhave a cult following.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
Yeah, they were not happy, clearly they were pissed.
They weren't there We playedfor like 30 minutes and then the
owner was like listen, you guys, we're just gonna have the DJ
finish, like these people aregonna get nuts, so, so we just
left.
You still got paid, though,right, it was a no, because it
was supposed to be a charityevent Donated your time.

(28:12):
Even worse.
So he just packed up and gotout of there.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
It was like I had everybody so what's been your
most memorable show, like theone that you Say this has been?
I was at the top of my game.
The audience was into it.
What's been like the one you'vetaken with the best or the most
probably?

Speaker 5 (28:29):
I don't know, like probably my I would say probably
the first time we played.
House of Blues is probably mybiggest, biggest you know, most
memorable show, you know mostpeople, biggest stage, you know
best audio.
Pretty much, i think that wasprobably it, you know.
Do you see any concerts at thehouse?

Speaker 1 (28:46):
of blues before you played there, oh yeah, so it's
kind of like a full circle, yeah, yeah so I mean, i was like I
would always go to see concertsthere.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
I saw, i saw train there before Some of the Metro.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Oh, okay, i saw train , the Metro Well, i forgot
Splendor or somebody opened upfor them.
They're awesome, but that wascrazy like seeing with that
little ass place.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
I think we were talking about the other day.
Amory was like yeah, we openedfor train when they first with
swizzle tree.
They opened for train when theyfirst started like playing
around Chicago.
He's like yeah, we opened forthem when they before they
became huge.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
And that's cool.
You and I were talking aboutswizzle tree earlier, because
you've actually seen swizzletree before and you don't even
know it.
I yeah, when we first starteddating, we used to always go and
see Lucky Boys confusion allthe time and swizzle tree open
for Lucky Boys.
Okay, he knows, like all theguys from Lucky Boys too.
Oh sure, So we kind of had alittle full circle moment to
talking about Lucky Boys andswizzle tree, I mean.
I'm gonna invite Stu beyond theshow one these days, but I've

(29:40):
been waiting for a good time, sosee, cuz he always has good
stories to us.
I was like man, he's aninteresting dude.
I don't know you ever met himbefore.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
I never met him.
I met his brother, yeah Sarong.
Yeah, yeah, he he's.
He's actually just.
I just heard one of his songs.
He's doing like this new.
He's got a bunch of new songscoming out recently too that
were really cool.
He's dude, so he does that likealmost.
It all reminds me like systemof a down cuz he uses the.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Indian.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
You know the Raga's in there and it just it's very
different.
It's really cool though.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
I know well it's to be put a few few like Twist on a
couple Lucky Boys songs wouldsound like more of like Indian
music and stuff.
I love that.
Yeah some of those songs Masalawas one of them.
I remember that song.
That was one of my favorites.
So well, dude, we talked alittle bit about kind of just
like what you go to college for.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
I I got a bachelor's of science and a bachelor's of
art.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Cool.
Well, that's why I don't see ifyou had any other creative
outlets other than music.
But you talked about being agraffiti artist.
Now you had to school with art,so yeah tell me a little bit
about your artist side, yourdrawing side and stuff.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
Yeah, i mean, i used to.
I used to write graffiti backin the day, drawing stuff I
Really liked.
You know, i draw all the time.
Still I do.
I got like no, i got hundredsof sketch pads and I really like
doing like anime and stuff likethat.
That's pretty much.
I used to draw Probably everyday.

(31:08):
I used to get in trouble atschool because they would be
like why aren't you listening?
I'm like I'm not botheringanybody, i'm just sitting here
drawing comic books.
You're not paying attention tous.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
I figured you had like an artist side to you.
When I first saw one of yourguitars, you had all the
stickers all over.
I was like dude, this guy hassome stuff.
Oh yeah, there was a guylocally here.
He's always drawn his guitar.
I forgot his name but he alwayswould play at Genesee Theater
and all of his guitars He had hejust hand drew every like all
over and amazing artwork on.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
I wanted to do that, but I'm always like man if I
take the lacquer off the like,i'm always afraid I'm gonna mess
it up.
Yeah but I do have one guitar Igot actually from my uncle,
jomet.
It's a, and I remember when Itook it into the guitar They're
like I can't believe you didthis.
It's like a 1960 something,gibson SG jr And My uncle got
that.

(31:55):
He'd found it somewhere and hegave it to me some like garage
sale.
I sold him really 50 bucks andso he gave it to me.
Luther Dickinson signed it.
So what I did was I put a pieceof tape over where he signed it
And then I splatter painted thewhole thing like Jackson
Pollock style.
Yeah, and I have that guitar.
I really don't play it, but Ibecause it's they.

(32:16):
When I got it remade theycouldn't really like It.
It was really hard to find theoriginal hardware for it and
stuff like that, so it didn'tsound.
It doesn't really sound thatgreat, but it looks really cool.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
It's got a memory Yeah sure, so that's cool.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Definitely.
My dad has old guitars, like apiece of gone here.
See that guitar in their house.
That's a memorable guitar too,for sure.
So living in Chicago, we talkedyou're in Arizona, california,
for a little bit in Chicago.
Now You put a couple of ourriders rounds down in Nashville.
Do you have the itch at all?
Do you think you're gonna jumpship one day and call national

(32:52):
your home, or do you think thatyou can make make be happy
you're staying here in Chicago?

Speaker 5 (32:57):
No, i, i mean, my plan is to move to Tennessee
back, you know.
I mean, i think that, uh, it'sChicago's like a, it's like one
of those things, it's like it'llalways be, it'll always be
there, you know.
But I, you know, it's just hardbecause there's so much, it's
like you said, like there's onlylike three or four guys really

(33:17):
doing anything with the, withcountry music here.
And it's like more like it'smore like a destination for
bigger people.
So it's like hard to really,like you know, get your name out
there and stuff like that.
So hopefully in the next yearor two probably moved to
Nashville somewhere outside ofit, your songs and your style
fits Perfect for those ridersrounds.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
You know, if you play a couple of more of those right
arounds, your names can get outthere Early.
We'll let it slip right now,july 9th, we're back in
Nashville bonds with us.
So there you guys go.
That's the first artist weannounced for the line.
We have another writer's roundcoming up We're excited for.
But uh, dude, just seeing it asour last year It's been awesome
is to see the growth that we'vehad from the first one to
second one you're on, and thisis really cool.

(33:57):
Just hear your music, dude, iknow you're.
You're building a fan base, oneby one too, which is what you
got to do it these days, yep yepfor sure.
So that one person's going totell three more and keep my eyes
on saying to you guys talkabout the, the, the Eric church
concert with the in the parkinglot yeah, and I was like that's
pretty much.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
I played a.
We played a concert inWisconsin on the back of a semi
trailer.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
It is a road house, yeah, yeah.
So it's crazy.
That's the thing.
You just keep going and keepgoing and then three turns into
six, and then into 12, and theninto 24, and it just you just
keep going and it's.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
Two is like you have to be and I'm sure you you
interview so many people and youdeal with so many different
like, different, like artistsand stuff.
Like you remember thatexperience.
I, you know, like I rememberwhen I got that guitar signed by
Luther Dickinson, i was justlike he came out of his bus and
his brother.
They came, they talked to us,they signed it, they hung out.

(34:59):
It's like an hour.
We're just, we were justtalking music, that's it We're
talking about.
I was like you know Dicky bats,and he's like you gotta listen
to dick.
He was like giving me, we'relike going back and forth like
you got.
Like you gotta listen to Dickybats, sun's new band, like you
gotta listen to this and I'mlike, no, you gotta look like
and that's like.
You know, that's how you haveto.
People remember that kind ofstuff, you know, and like
sometimes some people are justyou know, i don't know They like

(35:23):
it's like you like hearing youtalk about Eric church.
Like to this day He's still thesame guy that, like you, could
just sit there and have a beerwith the guy and talk to him.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
That's like we're kind of just right before.
I saw in general before we wentlive, he kind of I mean the way
it looked.
He had a fan club party inNashville and it's Everybody on
Facebook and where else isthrown fits about it.
Because the way they ran thefan club party for him was they
ran it Through like a meetinggreet, like you would be going
to a show, so you, you went onhis website, you'd be like
you're applying for a meet andgreet.
And they said that way becauseit was easy.

(35:53):
It was easy to be able to drawhow many winners they had for
the show.
But then when everybody got theemail saying that they won the
fan club entry, it said me andgreet on it and they frat that,
take that wording out.
So everybody thought Eric wasshowing up to this fan club
party on Saturday.
They get there, they pay 150bucks, they get autographed
poster, a t-shirt, a koozie,maybe some free whiskey, some

(36:13):
free food and no, eric,everybody leaves and they're
pissed off.
We're like it says me and greet.
Well, in true church fashion,the way he's always been himself
, he comes out today, puts out astatement, says no, if you're
there, i'm sorry I misscommunication, but you come on
the tour.
We're not.
We can't give you tickets, butyou come on tour, i'll give you
me great Yeah.
So everybody that was at thisparty on Saturday, he's getting
a free meet right now, and it'sjust awesome, it's just cool, so

(36:36):
it's it's just a larger scale,but he's still trying to connect
with people.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
It's harder to do bigger.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
Imagine, you know, my god you saw a lot of rena's.
It's not.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
It's not easy to do stand outside the bus anymore,
you know you go outside, youstart a little riot.
I mean oh for sure, yeah, ican't even, i don't even you
ever see that video of Johnmayor.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
When he was like, he used to put the bear costume on
you know that and he walkedthrough the You ever saw that?
no, he would put a bear costumeon and he would walk through
the parking lot when people aretailgating and talk to People
and they'd have no idea.
No, was him, and he'd be likethis guy sucks, like why are you
watching this guy?
and people get mad and he'dtake the hat off.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
That's kind of how you got to do it.
That's a little bit I gottatell Eric church to do that next
time.
He had a wig on it wasn'tdouble down, it was whatever was
the center heart and soul tour.
There's a couple of him he wentand actually a couple friends
of mine that was on the show.
He would put a wig, an usherjacket on all this stuff and
went up in like the nose bleedsand gave people wristbands for a

(37:38):
pit, but they didn't notice him.
that first They saw was like anusher.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
I'll see that that's cool.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
And then he took off the wig and there's holy shit,
it's Eric church.
Yeah, he ran a couple peopledown parking lots in Green Bay
and said hey, you want sometickets or some pit tickets, and
he was Pretty good doing allthat stuff, so that was pretty
cool.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Yeah, um, but yeah, that's true.
Like to connect with people,like for people to can take the
time to connect to your music.
You have to connect with them.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Mm-hmm.
You know you have to try to givethem the opportunity to hear
who you are And that's kind oflike where this, this podcast,
was born, in a way, because westarted a little bit right
before 2020, before COVID hitand and then, all of a sudden,
shows were done, everything elsean artist, we're looking for
platforms.
They're like, alright, we needto go and do something.
And we had a platform to offerthem and we were just

(38:22):
interviewing fans of Eric Churchand we went into a
singer-songwriter podcast andwhich I love because we've had
some great guests on dude.
So, man, what does the rest ofthe year look like for you?
We're halfway through now.
We're in June.
What kind of shows you got?
come up, you release any.
You said you got to do Song.
Come now.
Tell us a little bit aboutwhat's going on for you.

Speaker 5 (38:38):
Um well, i'm gonna release This new song, poor
man's dollar battle ballot ofDon Lee.
Then I'm gonna record my nextsong, which is called girl dad.
I played it at the last writersround, which I know that's a
good song, because Adam Churchcame up to me and was like bro.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Yeah, yeah he like can't.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
He's like hey, hey, we got it.
We got to start workingtogether.
Yeah, so me and him connectedand he's like, yeah, you gotta
record that one And yeah.
So I mean I'm playing.
I've always got shows like,just like I get random texts Hey
, dave, text me there.
Hey, can you fill in?
So I just pop in.

(39:18):
I got a show at, i think, 24.
I got it at Smoke show inNaperville.
I'm playing there 27.
I'm playing like an afternoonshow.
It's someplace called OldRepublic in Elgin.
Okay, yeah, i've never heard ofit.
It looks really.
I saw online.
I was born in Elgin.
They got like a whole stage andeverything.

(39:38):
It's really cool.
I'm sure I'll be at the aisle.
I'm usually there once a month.
Hopefully more shows inNashville.
I'm trying to line up morestuff that week.
I was trying to do the wholeweek of July, further going into
the ninth, but I'll be therethe sixth, the seventh a thing,
it's like six, seven, eight,nine, hopefully.
Maybe I'll get something elsedown there.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
I see many other rounds right now.
Let's you know.

Speaker 5 (39:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
I'll try to reach out to some guys and be like hey,
You guys got anything going on.

Speaker 5 (40:02):
So I was gonna do this, i was gonna leave the
third, but Just schedulingconflict, i wasn't able to go
three, four or five.
So now we're just gonna go thesix, seven, eight, nine.
We got an Airbnb and Yeah, so Imean, but I'm always playing
around.
I mean you just if you followme online Bond Henry music or
bond Henry calm.
Most of my stuff I post onFacebook or Instagram.

(40:23):
You still use YouTube a lot.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
YouTube.
I don't I don't.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
Honestly, i really have no idea how to use you to.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
I'd know how to upload.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
I don't understand their social features on there
at all.
I don't even know clue whatthey're trying to do.
So I, you do.
I post videos on YouTube allthe time.
I do cover songs.
Whatever people send memessages Hey, you ever done this
?
I just I started doing thatbecause people would always ask
me They're like hey, I like theway you play that song better.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
So I started doing it and then it just started
snowballing.
I just keep doing them.
People send me messages all thetime Hey, we do this song, we
do that song, and then, yeah, ijust keep putting them out there
and Tic-tac, do you take that?
tick-tock.
Yeah, bond Henry music ontick-tock.
I do this I.
I mean, i post on whateversites it exists, pretty much
Twitter.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
So if you're scrolling through your personal
tick-tock, what side tick-tockdo you wind up on?

Speaker 5 (41:11):
Conspiracy theories.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
Mine's, mine chefs, mine's usually like mom, and
then I followed that conspiracytheory.
I've been following the aliensmusic.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
I told you 50,000 years ago, aliens came to that's
pretty much my Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
I tend to follow my buddy told me goes.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
Every time you log on he goes.
I'll be watching tick-tock, Hegoes.
He's like a contractor, He goes.
I get a construction videos Hegoes.
The minute you log on intick-tock.
Do you have you ever seen theon a knocky?
He goes.
I know you're online becausethose videos start getting sent
to my feet.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
I was like.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
Have you seen the on an hockey?

Speaker 1 (41:56):
That's real, it's really amazing, yeah, baby was
it Jackson was telling me aboutLogan Paul and all this?
What is that?
you tell me all these?

Speaker 4 (42:04):
aliens.
Oh, the aliens are coming inJune.
I'm selling you, selling you.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
I'm like, yeah, i don't know my dad.
My dad always thinks the aliensbuilt the pyramids.
He watched that.
Each alien, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
We went for.
This is just a short.
We went for our rehearsaldinner not rehearsal dinner
tasting for our wedding and weboth invited both of our parents
.
This was what 12 years agohowever, long ago we were
married and My parents had met,but not really like sat down and
had like a full meal orwhatever, and his dad talked
about aliens the entire time andhow aliens built the pyramids

(42:36):
and my parents were like who areyou?

Speaker 5 (42:40):
You need it.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Well, do it, we'll do a podcast.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
Me and your dad.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
My dad's a miracle of a national and on our way down.
We we had a listen to was a BobLazar on the Rogan.
Oh yeah, you had a watch there.
Listen to that.
All the way down We played ittwice.
I'm like all right.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
I don't listen to me He erased his records.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
I got the documents.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Don't tell me stories or days.
I was like all right, dad,let's do this, let's go find
them info warscom.
That's an art thing.
We're gonna wrap up here in midBut we're talking a little bit
before we went live aboutparanormal ghost hunting stuff
And I took my dad out, dude,like I went to a couple like
these old, like ancient Well itwas place was the Bel Air house
in West for Ohio, around OhioRiver by West Virginia, and I

(43:31):
took my dad there for a couplenights and, dude He swears he
had like a little girl whisperedhis ear Oh there's a this thing
here.
I'm tell these stories and thatwas like an earth.
And we were at family reunionin November at my cousin's house
on I'll wear my dad's Santatable down all these ghost
stories He witnessed and he feltlike dude, so awesome.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
Dude, i'll show you, i'll find it on my phone.
More done.
I used to play every Tuesdaynight at a place called
Dillinger's in the city Youshould be called toasted ox, and
it was loose seals before that.
Every person that's ever workedthere has said they've seen a
ghost.
It's haunted.
This girl used to work there.
She took a picture of herfriend sitting at the bar.
In the background of thepicture, inadvertently, there's

(44:13):
a woman wearing an Victorianpurple dress.
100% a specter.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
I've never believed in that.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
I've never believed it.
I saw that picture and I waslike holy shit, that's a ghost.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Dude, we're gonna have to do a big show in October
, cuz like.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
I think that would be fun.
It's a paranormal month.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
This is the second time or the second guest, like
three weeks We've done are likesuper cool.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Here's the thing not everybody talks about it, cuz
then they think that peoplethink they're like you know.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
So we had I think it was drew green on.
Was it triggering that wetalked about a couple weeks?

Speaker 4 (44:44):
I think so, and he was like super into it.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
So Kip Moore did a podcast with Bobby bones a
couple years ago and he had hisold house He was living in and
up in the attic.
He swore this place is haunted.
He'd be up in the attic writing.
He said it'd be like a wholeparty going on downstairs.
He'd go downstairs There'snothing like he'd her music,
dance and all this stuff.
Go downstairs and hear nothing.
I'm like, dude.
I'm like that's why I highlydie.
I can't ever get Kip Moorearound the show But, dude, they
have some stories out of himwould be badass.

(45:08):
I know like hardy's talkedabout some haunted stories and
stuff.
I was like we should do one ofthem.
When I was running around withparanormal team, i always want
to do a YouTube video or YouTubelike episode like a show where
I would grab like a countrysinger or a singer songwriter.
We go to these haunted placesand we gather we would explore
together.
And we haven't played musicinside the place too, cuz I
always thought music drew allthe spirits or energy or

(45:30):
whatever it is.
I always thought music drewthem out too.
So I was like man I'll get my.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
If you really want to do that, i'll get my buddy.
They got the guy.
I know it's a ghost hunter.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
Oh yeah, all we've got it, We've got all the other.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Show you the trailer I have outside.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
You got everything you need to go hunt you a ghost,
and I'll hang out at home whenI was a kid I thought there were
ghosts in my house.

Speaker 5 (45:50):
You know, like in a home alone there.
He's afraid to go in thebasement.
Yeah, I had this really creepybasement, and This will probably
tell you how my life was shaped.
I go, dad, there's, there's,there's ghosts in the basement.
I can't go down there and getthe laundry.
He goes, boy, you better godown there, you better be afraid
of what's alive up here.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
So That's funny, yeah there were.

Speaker 5 (46:15):
There was a terrifying experience, but we
got through it Okay.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
I'm sorry to say I know you say our houses haunted.
We're talking about ghosts.
We totally lost our feet.
I know, i know how you got yougetting this house has been
haunted.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
for how long we're sitting here telling ghost
stories And our whole systemjust went out?

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Yeah, you all see, y'all are watching whoever's out
there watching.
You guys saw it.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
We saw it on Facebook .
I got the feed right here.
Every camera just went out.
We just lost our signal, dude,i'm telling you.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
Well, my first thought was oh crap, did I not
pay the bill?
Oh, did we lose the internet.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
All right, so we're gonna leave it at that.
We're gonna move on to ourpowered by projects, our
sponsored part of the night.
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you felt super cool aboutwearing the school.

Speaker 5 (47:09):
Let's go to high school the first banter shirt.
You were like the high schoolhigh school I had a Kanye West
college dropout shirt.
I got that shirt when he firstblew up in Chicago and The
original grave on with the bearon it with the skyline.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
That's where some money.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
I think mine.
I was trying to think I sawthis card come up.
I was like, dude, i don't know.
I think mine was a gratefuldead Lithuania shirt.
Still have it in the crawlspace back here.
I have like a bin of shirts,but like a grateful dead
Lithuania special edition shirtor a grateful dead shirt.

Speaker 5 (47:42):
I had one too.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
Nice dude What what do you think I wanted?
that was like the glory.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Huh, i have that picture you in that Billy Ray
shirt.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
Yeah, Thank you, ricky hard.
He had the mullet andeverything in the red jacket.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 5 (47:57):
He was the man back then.
Oh dude.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
I'm gonna tell you there's.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
There's a picture right back there of us and Billy
Ray on the top shelf dude.
That's no uh it's Lil NoahCyrus back there too, dude.
In the mid 90s, late 90s, mymom was obsessed.
She took me to shows.
I probably seen Billy Ray everybit of a hundred times got to
know the guy real well There's acouple things coming down the
stairs to a Billy Ray that Ihave out here.
But dude was awesome and I wastelling you.
But if they want to go look atBilly Ray, look at after a key

(48:22):
breaking before Hannah Montana.
That was some of his best work,like trailer tears stuff, like
the words by heart.
Those are the best songs.
They'd never got anyrecognition.
Those songs like this was deadafter a key breaking and Miley
revived everything andEverything with the hell out
well, He did Old Town Road too.
Yeah, well, that's one screw up,sorry to say I mean the kids

(48:43):
liked it.
Yeah, that's a wild family,though, those guys.
Yeah, i liked it.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
He was the guy that did that, though.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, they're like of all people they were like.

Speaker 5 (48:50):
Well, this can't be on country radio.
There's no country singer on itand Billy Ray Cyrus I'm doing
it.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Raise the fan.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Catchy tune.
I was like, whatever, it's agood song.
It was catchy for the for thetime.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
You know, many times people ask me to play that song.
I'm like I honestly don't knowthat song.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
What's the strangest request you got other than Old
Town Road?

Speaker 5 (49:13):
Trying to think oh, on Saturday this lady wanted me
to play the Pina Colada song.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
She just kept yelling play Pina Colada song And I'm
like which one like Garth Brooksto Pina Colada?

Speaker 5 (49:25):
No, the other one, i Love it.
Dude, i'm like I don't knowthat song.
I'm sorry, she's like just tryit.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
How many free birds you get all the time free bird?
No, not really.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
But when I played the I don't do it to go, this guy
goes Oh, these actually reallycool.
Like 20 people.
They literally stayed the wholetime.
They just kept requesting songsand I'm like hey.
I would have said if I go, ifyou know, if you say a song and
I know it or I can even thinkthe melody, i'll play it.
I just look up the tab, i'llplay it.
This guy goes Hey, we're gonnago see Morgan Wallin, he goes

(49:54):
just play.
Last night by Morgan Wallin Isaid I don't know that song, he
goes Just played anyways and Idon't know how to play it at all
.
I can't.
I don't know the melody.
He goes just play the chordsand say the first part, and all
these, all these women at thistable will sing it.
I'm like, but what if theydon't?
He goes.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
I'll sing it.

Speaker 5 (50:14):
No, i was like no, no , no, no.
Then this then his friend goescan you play shinai at 20?
I go, honestly I don't know anyshinai.
So she goes, why don't you justlook it up and I'll sing it?
and I was like, can you sing?

Speaker 1 (50:25):
She's like kind of like maybe we won't do that as
well as shinai I can now thesedays anyways.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
Well, she probably thought she could sing at that
point and and the night.

Speaker 5 (50:34):
You know, I was like uh, how about we just?
so then I just played his act,brian song, and they all went
when ape Shit.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
So Dude, that guy's that talk about game changer is
that grinds.
Get changing the game man.
He's gonna be up in milwaukeehere We're gonna be out of town.
That I was gonna look at tryingto cover it, but now.
So our second card was and thisis a good one, man, um, do you
ever struggle with self doubtabout your music career or
abilities?
So how do you overcome that inorder to keep going?

Speaker 5 (50:57):
Uh, yeah, i mean it's .
It's tough because, uh, Like,right now I'm working on the
release in this song and it'slike, like we were talking about
earlier, i'm like what do Ineed to do to get to the next
level?
Like I don't think it's There's.
Especially when you play thesewriters around.
You see so many people outthere, they got so much talent,
they're so good at certainthings, and especially when you

(51:18):
know country music, like the waythings work out, like Sometimes
you're like hey, like willynelson, like well, we don't want
you to, we just want your songs.
We don't want to hear you sing,we, you suck.
And then like he's like no, idon't, i'm gonna, you know, and
he becomes willy nelson.
And it's tough because, like you, every time you I release a
song, i'm like I know the songis good because, like I, I play
like 10 songs.

(51:38):
Right, i'll write 10 songs andI'll go to my, my producer,
aimery, and I'm like, hey, whichare the best songs?
and he doesn't bullshit me,this song sucks, this song
That's, this song is good.
So we only pick the best songs.
And then it's like you put itout there and it's like, uh, you
got a thousand streams.
Like, oh great, you know.
And then it's like, what do youdo?
and then you know, i watchedthis video of uh t-paying the

(51:58):
other day And he's like talkingabout how he makes more money
off gaming than I have music.
But he was like when I wouldput out a single, he said he had
to put like A million dollarsinto marketing a single of his
own money.
And I'm like why don't I have?

Speaker 4 (52:11):
Yeah right.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Like and what's the return investment?

Speaker 5 (52:14):
Yeah, even if you did .

Speaker 4 (52:15):
What do you want to put that much into?

Speaker 5 (52:16):
and then, what do you get out of it?
You know so it's like It's justtough because, like you, you
know, like you want, it's likeyou do get that moment of doubt
because you're like, well, whatam I doing wrong that this guy?
it's not like Like what, thisguy did this.
How do I get there?
like Zach Bryant, right, likeyou put it.
I don't know the whole story.
I don't necessarily believethat he just happened to upload

(52:38):
a song on youtube and justhappened to get 10 million hits
and Yeah, like that's kind oflike crazy.
I don't know if that's reallywhat happened, but I feel like
he probably had some.
Somebody had a label that knewhim because he was always on
warner.
That's what this remember thatcontroversy He's signed with
warner.
They're like he's always beensigned with warner, like what
are you talking?
about.
But like you know what I mean,like they do, they do craft

(52:58):
these narratives and but it'slike you need to.
Like I was, i'm on thereearlier.
I'm like I don't know how to doany of that kind of stuff.
I don't know how to getsomebody to Do that.
So I think that's it's.
Every time I release a song I'mlike, oh shit, like I hope it's
good, like.
But you know, i mean, youreally just get to the point
where you just start realizinglike I just got to just keep
releasing them.
So I think I read this thingthat This anard virgin said you

(53:23):
have to release 33 songs beforeone song will break.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
That's what their average was per artist.
So like, if you're out therereleasing songs, think about
that.
You got to release 33 songs, sothat's three albums at least or
more.
Now I.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yeah, if you're more.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
Right, that's one album, crazy, you know.
So that's yeah.
I mean, there's always doubtand I you know, but you, you
just got to like.
Yeah, you just you, like.
When you get to a certain level, you know you're good, like you
, you're out here playing,you're out here in the game,
like, if you're in the game, you, you can play.
You know what I'm saying.
You're not on the sidelines,you're in a game.
It just got to keep playing andsee what happens.

(54:02):
I love it, man.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
It's great, that's cool Because, yeah you, you just
never know.
and that's the we're talkingabout earlier with podcast.
We've done 167 of them, but I'mjust gonna keep going and see
what happens.
You know, i mean one day onemight just hit and get a
thousand downloads or whatever,and then we go off from there.
But I do the same thing withphotos, dude, like a lot of the
photography idea.
I don't really charge for it atall right now because I feel

(54:25):
like once I can get enoughportfolio built up and get out
there, i'll be good, i'll begood to go and I'll be all right
.
I mean, in our year or so,start clicking, i feel.
But I still got work out.
You gotta keep grinding, youjust gotta keep working hard and
I just Don't give up.
And I think that was like kindof my dawnfall with a lot of
things too, like when I look atlike self doubt.
Self doubt is I tried a lot ofendeavors over the years But I
never stuck to anything, like atfive years, four or five years.

(54:47):
It didn't work out.
I moved on to something else.
That's why I'm like you knowwhat this one?
stick with for a little bit andtry out, because I love it.

Speaker 5 (54:53):
I'm, it's raw music and Hey, if I'm happy doing it,
that's all it matters and it'slike we're talking about
authenticity, like if you, youcan tell like there's certain
people, it's like you know,there's like, if you don't, if
you're not authentic about whatyou're doing, it's just so
obvious.
And like knowing you andobviously This place is

(55:13):
incredible.
So it's like I know, like whenI talk to you like you're, like
you love music You loveeverybody like it doesn't matter
what kind of like we're talkingabout Billy Ray Cyrus.
Yeah you know, like it's just,it comes off.
And it's like if you stick withit like I was telling you about
my cousin Like he's like, yeah,we just stuck with it.
And then that's saying, youknow, boom, we're there where we
want to be, but it's like youcan't give up.
You know, like I had came tothe crossroads of like I was

(55:36):
either gonna go to medicalschool or I was gonna keep
playing music, and so then I waslike, well, i'm not gonna do
that.
I don't want to go 300 thousanddollars in the debt right now.
And that's a true I'm like andyou know what, to be honest with
you, like, this is what I loveto do.
So I was like you know what?
I'm just gonna keep doing this.
Oh yeah, dude.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
You're good at you.
Yeah, good for you.

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Speaker 1 (56:19):
All right, we're gonna move on to our fun part of
the night.
We call this melodies andmemories.
I picked five songs that we'regonna pick and we're gonna see
if you have any connection withit.
I kind of made the first one alittle easier hit a yellow one,
i had it.
Man, you're Chicago boy.
And that's why I asked earlierI'm your cubs, right, i figured

(56:40):
you were, but do.
when you hear that song, wheredoes it take you?

Speaker 5 (56:43):
uh game seven World series.
I was there, i witnessed it.
I'm jealous.
Were you in that you were inthe.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
I was in the stadium.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
We were talking about the crew and I was like second
row upper deck.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
I was there.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
How and when did you score those tickets So?

Speaker 5 (57:02):
uh, literally, we were driving there and my cousin
my cousin and my best friend atthe time Um, we were like, hey,
we got to go to this game.
And So my buddy's like, hey, wegot to go.
We're like I call him up.
I'm like, hey, he's like, hey,he's a construction worker, he
goes, i call my boss, i'm notcoming in, let's go.
So, like my cousin picked us up, we just drove straight through

(57:23):
And on the way there, my cousinwas like here, take my credit
card, So he runs a company.
He's like, just, i don't give ashit what it costs, put it on
my credit card.
We're like all right, if you'repaying for the tickets, let's
go.
That's awesome.
Oh yeah, dude.
So I think they were it actuallywas funny because he went to
all seven games.
He paid six grand to go to game, six per ticket.
So he took his dad.

(57:43):
We only paid 50 hundred bucks aticket in cleveland.
I ain't bad, no, i were likedude for that.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
For that yeah, we're like, let's do it.
Yeah, I am going towrigglyville and doing the whole
thing and that was a fun night.
I do it all over again.
I do in a heartbeat.
It was just so many people downthere, just so wild and so
crazy, and it's everybody comingtogether and it was just Dude
that that I don't think I'veever felt that sick in my life
is.

Speaker 5 (58:09):
when he hit that home , run in the a thing, it bounced
off the camera.
Oh my god, i was like This isnot happening.
It was suspenseful that, andthen the rain delay.
I feel like this is not.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
It was meant to happen that way.
It was meant to keep it comesto the very end.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
We waited so long and like you're gonna wait a little
longer, yup, so that's cool.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
No, dude, it's really cool.
I hear that song, the samething.
It takes me back to That gameand all over again.
I just love that.
All right, go ahead and hit thegreen one, cover me up.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
No, you're enough.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Isabel, cover me up.
I had you this version.
when you hear it, where does ittake you?

Speaker 5 (58:50):
um, it takes me to uh my kitchen and uh me playing it
for my, uh my family, and thenuh yeah.
That's one of my wife'sfavorite songs, so I always play
that.
she always well.
She likes the Morgan Wallinversion And I like the uh isabel
version.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Oh yeah so I put it on my tiktok when we went to
cover it, isabel, by a year ago,and I put it on tiktok and to
you, it's such a battle.
Everybody thinks hardy wrotethat song for wallin.
Really, yeah, dude, and peopleare like no, isabel wrote that.
It's honestly one of my mostcommented videos I haven't
really people arguing.
Who wrote?

Speaker 5 (59:25):
actually, you know what I do.
I watched the video that, theone where he plays it at, uh,
austin city limits and peopleare just spamming the comments.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Morgan's better.
That's what we got people.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Yeah, casuals, we got to see him last year at the
salt shed.

Speaker 5 (59:38):
dude, how crazy is that as a venue now?
Oh yeah, i know my buddy.
Uh, he does the valet parkingthere.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Nice dude.
It was cool.
It was a cool event.
That's where I grew up, rightthere, okay, right on street
from the salt shed.
I grew up at uh.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
I grew up at north avenue and daemon, so I grew up
right there.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
So you guys don't know what we're talking about.
In chicago, if you ever drovedown 90 years, be able to build
in, says morton salt.
On the side Is the old saltbuilding they turned into a
concert hall bad ass.

Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
Dude, you know the building where they used to
paint Dennis rodman's head?
Yeah, i lived behind thatbuilding, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
I remember when I passed.
I'm like I wonder how manylayers of paint You could get to
you actually recently just saidthat we just had this
conversation about that.
He used to change his haircolor.
After a while They they're,they're painting it, and after a
while they would just put likeI think it was like billboarder,
like cardboard or something.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
Remember, they made them stop because the traffic
jam.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
They're like you can't do this.
Those are the days, man, ican't watch basketball anymore
because the bulls in the 90sspoiled me, dude.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
Yeah, i mean the, the greatest teams ever.
Yeah, what do you?
what do you watch now?
I mean it's like I watched thistonight the games on.
It's like it's actually prettygood series.
I just got tired of watchingthe bronbers stuff.
Curry ever.
Yeah, yeah, like uh.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
The warriors are just too good.
I had to be lost Kobe.
I think I was like my last hairwith basketball and I'm like,
yeah, i'm good.

Speaker 5 (01:00:51):
I said you know I met Kobe Bryant, Did you?
when I worked in LA, I ran apizza shop or Italian restaurant
.
I know I ran an Italianrestaurant owned by the Korean
mob.
Oh, that's fun And uh yeah, itwas really, actually, really fun
And uh but yeah, kobe came inafter one of the games they won
in the in the they beat.
Uh, what did they beat whenthey?
it was when they were in thechampionship run.

(01:01:12):
He came in after the game andate pizza, he's like hey, that's
crazy.
Yeah, like, we're like, why areyou eating pizza?
That's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Love it.
So most of these songs I pickedare, i think, ones that really
nice guy, by the way, i do.
I've heard, i've heard that.
I heard he's amazing, awesomeguy Yeah or amazing.
Um, yeah, but I never heardanything bad about the guy.
I always heard nothing but goodthings.
So, um, hit the yo.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
Oh sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
That one came in a little hard.
Riley green, grandpa's neverdie, man, when you hear that
song, where's it?

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
taking.
Uh, i think about.
You know, i did a cover of thatsong, um, yeah, i think it's.
It just reminds me of just.
It's a really powerful songbecause, uh, how many people do
you know that are just gone,that you, just, you never get

(01:02:04):
any time with them.
You know, because, like I neverhad any grand, i had one
grandparent.
I shouldn't say any, i only hadone grandparent growing up my
grandmother, my crazy Cherokeegrandmother, um, and she was
awesome, but she was, she wasnutty, so she's want to, you
know, play music with me and uh,but um, my grandfather passed
away before I was, uh born.

(01:02:26):
My other grandfather passedaway before I was born.
He was gassed in World War one.
He was old, old man, when he hadmy dad.
I don't know how, um, probablylike prostitution or something
um, but uh yeah.
So like I never had agrandfather, so like it
resonates with me like, yeah,it'd be cool if I actually could
talk to him, you know and likein my family, my grandfather

(01:02:46):
bond, which that's my name.
Bond.
I'm named after my grandfather.
That's cool.
Um, he's like the patron, likethe saint of the like.
Everyone's like, that's like mymom wouldn't even call me that
because she was when he passedaway.
She couldn't even like functionwithout him.
So it was like really hard,because everyone in my family's
name something bond like my.

(01:03:07):
My full name is donald bond,okay, and so I use my middle
name, just because I liked itbetter.
I do, um, and but like in myfamily with donald bond, joe
bond, gary bond, angeline bond,i mean like everyone names their
middle.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
Isn't their middle name?

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Our kids have their grandparents first name, so
that's pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
I was gonna be james bond, by the way, and then my
dad.
When my mom because I had ac-section my mom woke up and
there was, like donald bond.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
My mom was like I was gonna say did that call for?

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
like I could have been double o seven, my whole
life.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
That's cool.
You had some real street credRight.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
I was gonna ask you about your name.
I totally forgot to do thatduring the show.
So I'm glad we brought that up,dude, because that's awesome.
It's cool to know that thefamily history like that too.
Man, all right, hit the lastone, this last one.
Dude, i heard your cover ofthis and I was just blowing away
.
That's why I'm like I'mthrowing this in here.
Love this song, big one Whereare you going, dude?
when you hear that song,where's it?
Where's it taking you?

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
Um, i, when I hear that song, well, i think about
uh the wedding I put my buddy'swedding I played last year.
He loved ryan being him and hiswife, so I played uh, i played
uh that song and then I theycame out to uh Us.
What is it sunrise?
No no no, what the hell's namethat song?
I'm blinking on it.

(01:04:29):
Her favorite song, so they.
I played it for her to come outto the to the party.
But that just reminds me of ryanbeing him.
And then you know, uh, that's.
I just remember watching thatmovie, like all the time I
didn't watch that movie all thetime.
Yeah he loves jeff bridge is somuch.
Yeah dude, that's what my Ilove that movie It's so good.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
That was a good movie .
We should watch that movie withthe kids.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
I don't think the kids would.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
No, that's too slow for them but that's a good movie
though.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
So, and there's another song, trisak and sing it
from that movie.
But he covered effort.
Who's the guy that played thatmovie?
the younger guy?
Oh, colin Farrell.
No, no one, that was the opener.
All the time phone love withthat girl.
Was there?
the same movie?
I'm right thinking of adifferent movie.

Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
I think I'm gonna be thinking of a different movie.
Call it and in crazy heart.
Colin Farrell was the guy thatTook his songs and got famous
with him.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Yeah he wrote, and then he I'm thinking of country
strong Country, so that's whatI'm starting to think of.
country strong with timigra andguanis paltral.
I don't think I've seen thatThat's an our good one, um but
the best is uh, george, straight, that's pure country.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
God, you really did a second one of it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Yeah, but it was yeah , it was like one of those Or
we're not spoo's, but it wasn'tmine was um.

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
What was the movie about?
um, It was about a young girland guy.
It was a country movie.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
It's like every damn movie.

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
Oh my gosh, you guys.
It's um, it's a lot like purecountry.

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
Always is it with uh.
Layton meester, the girl fromgossip girl.
That's country strong.
Okay, that's country strong.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
I think I've seen that one, because there are
pictures right there on my wall.
I mean she's barely wearingclothes, but that's the that
lean mister in that pictureright there, and she was in
country strong with guanis Bythe way, i'm a big gossip girl
fan.

Speaker 5 (01:06:17):
Yeah, i used, to all right.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
I'm gonna find out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
I got my my actress wall over there with was that uh
liviowile lean mister and thenrob zombie's wife Sherry moon.
She's crazy dude, but she'sawesome.
Of course, ronnie rousey too.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
All right, I'll get back to you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
What are you?

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
give us some hints um she The guy, um she was like a
waitress, So it was like um, uh,open mic night And it's not the
one with lady gaga, right Nope.
No, this is from when I wasgrowing up, so this was had to
be in like 90s, 2000s, early um,and you're gonna kill me with

(01:07:02):
this now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Yeah, this is I can't move on.

Speaker 5 (01:07:05):
I have like a.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
I Figure this out, because we're gonna put them on
the hot seat.

Speaker 5 (01:07:11):
So, wait, she's a.
She's a waitress.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
I don't remember if she was a waitress, it was an
open mic night.
And then the guy they ended uplike getting married super young
The girl.
They were two girls, a blondeand then the brunette.
They were like girlfriends.
Um, come on, so is anybodywatching?
somebody help me.

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
It's not coyote ugly right.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
It's not coyote ugly, it's not country strong.
Come on name some countrymovies.
I know you guys, i don't knowman I.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
I was gonna try googling it real quick, but I
have no clue.
Like your country was that wasgeorge straight George.

Speaker 4 (01:07:49):
George straight.

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
Come on, somebody's got to know this.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
He died.
I feel like the guy, the mainactor, he was like a young
coyote ugly forever.

Speaker 5 (01:07:58):
My girl Sounds like a nicolas sparks book Nashville
the song.

Speaker 4 (01:08:06):
The title to the movie was the the title of a
song, a famous song.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
We're gonna have to figure it out.
Um, and let them know next weekwhen we do this show.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
She was like a beauty queen.
One of the girls was a beautyqueen, the other one was like a
waitress and the beauty queenlike wanted to be a country
singer and is that two meangirls?
No.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
I don't know, man, you have me going crazy over
this now because I cannot thinkof it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
I More wasting time.

Speaker 5 (01:08:40):
I guarantee you, like I know my wife sleeping right
now, she guarantee you thatshe's gonna watch this and go.
Oh, it's this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
It wasn't dropped that gorgeous, was it?
That's what came up.
I'm like dang country musicsinger Her movie and I can
picture it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
She had on like oh, she wore red cowgirl boots.
I'm almost positive.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
No, you're gonna let me know what we're gonna get it
What's everybody know later.
Are you ready?

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
All right, let's move on.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
hot seat, here We go and put that All right, dude.
So we're gonna kind of likewhat we just did with Mel's
memories.
I'll ask you a quick question.
First thing comes of mine.
We'll go, we'll try to do 60seconds, but we never make it
through ready.
Oh Yeah, i got playing first CDor vinyl you ever purchased.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
Mystical shake that ass.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
My mom threw it out the window when she heard the
unedited version that was likeme in the offspring Offspring CD
they had that stupid god,whatever in the middle of a song
I'd play as loud as I could atCD just appeared cry Where's
your, where's your happy place,man, where do you go to rocks?

Speaker 5 (01:09:41):
Relax.
Honestly, my happy place isjust I lay in my.
In my back room I have aplaypins up for my child and I
just like to watch her play.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Nice dude.

Speaker 5 (01:09:53):
Nice How old?

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
is she now one and a half?
No, i have just best time, yep.

Speaker 5 (01:09:56):
Best times are coming out.
They five years.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
They say terrible twos, but don't, don't listen to
a man, it's just terriblethrees, but Those twos are fun.
So you know, ours are six andnine.
Now, dude, like like the songsays, don't blink.
Like, literally, it goes quick.

Speaker 5 (01:10:10):
Who has the best pizza?

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Panino's, okay being from Chicago.
That's cool.
I was kind of curious whereyou're gonna go with that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
Where's the worst panino is that?
so the the one I go to is inthe park ridge All right, cool,
we got to check that out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
We're gonna build, like a pizza list, one of these,
a.
what's the wallpaper on yourphone?
My child, nice dude, all right.
What's the movie that alwaysmake you laugh?
I Just watched it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:32):
Role models.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Taste the beast.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
What was your first job?

Speaker 5 (01:10:42):
First job was doing construction for my uncle's
company.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
All right, what's your oldest thing you own?

Speaker 5 (01:10:47):
the oldest thing.
I own shit, probably my guitars.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
All right, cool.
What's one tour you don't likedoing all of?

Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
them.
I Hate washing dishes, but I doit anyways All right, all right
, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
What was your favorite childhood TV television
show?

Speaker 5 (01:11:08):
Oh, Man, probably X-Men and spider-man Animated
series, Oh yeah dude, i used tohave the cards or boy meets
world.
There we go.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Oh boy meets world.
What's the most on your bucketlist, man?
That's something that you wantto make sure you do, either in
the music industry or not, butsomething that's definitely is a
must.

Speaker 5 (01:11:25):
It's gonna happen.
I've manifested it,headlighting Brickley Field.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
We'll be there.
that happens, we'll be there.
Yep, we'll definitely be downthere on the floor, man, all
right?
Well, we're gonna get you toplay a song.
We got to do a little bit ofswitching of the cord real quick
and then we're gonna set up andwe'll We'll bring Jillian and
bond right back on it.
just, you got me for right nowwhere they switch chords.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
Well, hold on.
I found out the name of themovie and I have to tell you
that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
Oh no you got to bring bond up because I know you
guys know this movie.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
Tell me the actresses before you tell me the name.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
Sandra Bullock.
It was one of her earliestmovies, maybe not earliest movie
, sandra Bullock.
I mean to give you the rest ofthe actors River Phoenix, didn't
I say River Phoenix?
Maybe I said that in my head.
The thing called remember, cuzI said he died.
It's the thing called love.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Oh, the Tom Hanks movie.

Speaker 5 (01:12:18):
No that was uh.
I know.
I don't I know Okay, I don'tknow if I've seen this.

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
Yes, look at the.
Don't you remember this picture?

Speaker 5 (01:12:29):
Yes, I know that do you remember?
she sleeps with his boyfriendright.

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
Yeah, and then they get like in this big fight She,
like Sandra Bullock, is like abeauty queen But she wants to be
like a country singer and theother girl is just a waitress.
But she ends up that's it,samantha Mathis.
But then she can actuallyreally sing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
I don't know, I just thought about yeah what is it
son-in-law?

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
Yeah, i remember he was kind of the goofy guy, the
guy in the cat, and then theother guy was like the bad.
The River Phoenix was like thebad, you know, the bad boy.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:13:02):
I think I have seen.
I know I had to have seen itCuz my mom guarantee you she's.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
How old are you?

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
in 92 I was only 10 well, i was seven, but I didn't
say I was seven as well, Yeah.
I didn't say I watched it in 92.
I just said it was early 90s.

Speaker 5 (01:13:17):
I was watching major league probably No, we might
have to watch a movie.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
I don't think I've ever seen think I love do major
league was awesome Major league.
We think I'm, we would youthink We were?

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
kept some sleeves at this level, vaughn.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
I Could probably quote the whole movie for you,
though I was always the the onewhere they're peeling the piece
off of the.
She's like naked underneath,and they pull each piece off.
Every time they win a game,they pull these off of them like
the owner.

Speaker 5 (01:13:48):
Hey, bartender, joe boo needs a refilling.
He gets it with the bat, oractually I think remember at the
end where he swings it.
Yeah, he's got two strikes andWesley Sipes is like.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Should have got a live chicken.

Speaker 5 (01:14:01):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Man, that's an arm.
We got watch.
I don't know, charlie, she getsa little yeah we watch that
grown up.
We're supposed to but we watchevery night I know what you're
talking about now.
I think I was thinking the kidmovie no, yeah, rookie, the year
, the year, that's what I wasthinking but I know what you're

(01:14:25):
talking about with major league.
All right, i'm gonna take youguys off and let you guys switch
your chords and do that.
We're so.
This is.
I was kind of talking a littlebit about Doing it in studio and
having in studio guests.
I know we ran a little bit overtonight, guys, thank you for
keeping tuning in with us.
But, um, what's cool is?
I think tonight's performanceprobably be the best one we've

(01:14:45):
ever had, because we're gonnahave the clearest audio.
We have the guitar Was that?
I don't want to jinx it, butwell, we have the guitar,
everything being plugged in, andthat's why I'm right We'll take
a quick minute and do it.
So, yeah, i'm excited, how youdoing over there.
You have a microphone.
I can't.
I mean I could bring your backup.
You just muted now.
So, yeah, give us many guys andwe're gonna poor man's dollars

(01:15:10):
me an interesting one.
I'm excited.
Go ahead and well, sound checkit real quick, bring you back up
.
Yeah, so this is our first instudio that we've ever had where
they're playing live, becausewhen we had Trevor and Joey on,
they didn't play live.

Speaker 5 (01:15:33):
You got it in there.
No, can you hear it?

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
That's what she said.

Speaker 5 (01:15:36):
Sorry, how to say it?
Sorry You.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Why are you meeting me over there?
You're the power of the muclin.
Oh, i say we needed that for,like our marriage.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
Just hit the mute button.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
All right, buddy, the only thing I got with this you
gotta tell us like a little bitof the backstory.
I mean, i think we kind oftalked about it.
Tell us where the song camefrom again.

Speaker 5 (01:16:36):
All right.
So This song is called poorman's dollar, the ballad of
Donald Lee.
It's about my dad And if youlisten to the lyrics, it's
pretty much all the stories andall the speculation about the
things That he did or didn't doGovernment agencies he may have
worked for.
So my father grew up in anorphanage in Chattanooga,

(01:16:58):
tennessee, and I wrote this songbecause I said these arguments
with sociology professors aboutthis.
I Think that he is the Ex, thehow do I say it?
the epitome of the Americandream.
He grew up in an orphanage, nomoney, nothing, literally got

(01:17:18):
his way out of destitute poverty, taught himself how to read,
taught himself everything,self-made man, you know, and so
I just think that this is thekind of story we need to really
be Promoting nowadays.
We need to give people hope andwe really need to remind people
that you can make it out thereIf you really try and you really
work your ass off.
And that's what this song isabout, and it's about doing

(01:17:40):
crazy stuff.
You, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
I could tell you stories and I hope they help you
get by.
I don't mind helping now.
You don't mind sticking by myside, not gladly share some

(01:18:21):
mistakes if they help you.
Skip a few.
You won't never be on that highjust repeating what they teach
you in school Oh man darling, oh, oh man darling, oh, oh, fancy.

(01:18:54):
Oh man darling, oh hey, oh no,fancy School, the poor man's
dollars worth a little more.
Don't you be nobody's fool.

(01:19:14):
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Spin a week down in the coalmiles.
I thought well, they're thesame for me.

(01:19:37):
Head over to Nashville, startdriving those big old limousines
.
Maybe I'll sell some pills.
Feel the thrills.
Maybe I'll spread a little thatmountain do.
Maybe I'll fly a plane for theCIA on another day.

(01:20:01):
Maybe that's what I do.
Oh man darling, oh Man darling,oh, no, fancy car.

(01:20:23):
Oh man darling, i'll pay for nofancy School.
Oh man, dollars worth a littlemore.
Don't you be nobody's fool.
They call me a Billy and theycall me redneck.

(01:21:00):
I don't give a damn what youcall me, long as I can cast
their checks, because an animalis an animal.
Don't be fooled by the clothesthey wear.
You can have your high societysatellite.

(01:21:26):
Well, i'll take that money, ohman darling.
Oh, oh man darling, oh No.
Fancy car Oh man darling, i'llpay for those.

(01:21:55):
Fancy school.
Oh man darling, what a littlemore.
Won't you ever be?
nobody's fool, that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So now you got to tune in tohear the full version on the
streaming side, because thefirst like what?
20 seconds was muted.
Sorry, we're doing some sound.
And then next thing we know theFacebook doesn't have any audio
.
Good old Facebook, i'm gonnablame them.
All right, we're gonna mute thecameras real quick, switch the
audio cord.
Oh, my camera's not up there.

(01:22:31):
There we go.
All right, i'm back, guys,we're gonna switch the audio,
bring Jillian back on the micand wrap up a little bit.
But man, dude, what a song,dude, and like a we'll bring
bottom back and on and talkabout it.
But I kind of like it, becauseyou saw me earlier about Johnny
Cash and the storytelling.
That's just exactly what thatsong was.
The story telling with thatsong is amazing And also that's

(01:22:52):
what we're fans of a singer songor the storyteller and love it.
You know, look back in.
All right, slowly bringing themall back.
There we go Look at that, see,that wasn't even that bad.
We will it will switch out thecord and you okay.

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
Man dude.
Yeah, that was amazing, i wasfantastic, awesome dude.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
It's.
The story telling was cool.
I love how well, how youbrought your day like this kind
of brought your dad to life onthat song.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
Yeah, very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
That was awesome, Dude this is amazing.
I thank you so much for joiningus tonight and coming out here.
I'm glad so I just it was coolhaving having something local
and having him here in thestudio So much different being
able to talk to somebodyface-to-face, you know.
I think that's why we ran overto, because we were just like
we're like.
Talking.

Speaker 4 (01:23:40):
I mean everyone's great on the show, don't give up
.
But it is different havingsomebody in.
In I was enjoying having this.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
A face-to-face conversation is about different
things, everything, and we gotoff topic a few times, which is
great.
I loved it.
Let people know more about you,just as a being an artist on
two sides of the spectrum now.
So, and then everything else.
But, dude, thank you so muchAnd we won't wish you the best
man.
Dude, we cannot wait.
You're coming back down toNashville July 9th, point our
show.
We're excited for that, and ifyou live here in Chicago, keep

(01:24:09):
an eye off this guy And manNashville, watch out, he comes
down there.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
Be a force of reckoning, guys gotta watch out.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
All right?
Well, dude, we're gonna let yougo real quick and Jelena will
swap your finishes up.
Thanks again.
Any final words, man, before welet you go.

Speaker 5 (01:24:25):
Uh, thanks for having me and I can't wait to see you
guys in Nashville.

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
Yeah, dude, all right , yeah, Whoo that was fun, it
was fantastic, and we'll shareall of your socials.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
Yeah, everything.
If you check out the show notes, everything will be there.

Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
But man, i was able to find them on all the social
platforms, the socials orwhatever they call them social.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
We figured out that movie.
That was driving me crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:24:48):
Oh, I know.
I used to watch it a lot as alittle girl, which is probably
not even appropriate.

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
I bet you if I watch and be like, oh, i remember that
movie, oh for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
Um, we're gonna do to wrap this up tonight, because
normally we do.
We already talked about ourfirst ban show.

Speaker 4 (01:25:02):
We wore Yeah, we kind of already talked about our hot
seat question or um.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
I think she's just hot that question.
I think she's just pull arandom card and we just do that
to wrap it up tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
Oh, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
You don't like the one X.

Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
I like to filter the random question.
You know those decks.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
Give me one of those decks.
That's what we're gonna do, sowe're gonna.
Before we wrap up Jillian, ialways like kind of doing a
little one-off thing.

Speaker 4 (01:25:23):
I'll do it.
I want to do it because you'regonna, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Okay, you're gonna.
You're gonna filter through.
This is what this, these decks,are made for.
So we normally just randomlydraw two cards earlier in the
night and put them on here, butwe've never really just random
picked one, so we're gonna.
Okay, all right.
What was the strangest thingyou've ever seen in the middle

(01:25:46):
of the road?
I?
Don't even know man was thatdamn armadillo in Mississippi
that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:55):
I was gonna say I think it was rock hard That you
said that I've seen toilet waslike the first week.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
I really mississippi.
I ran over a damn armadillo.
Do I hit a bowling ball?

Speaker 4 (01:26:04):
Yeah, i've seen a toilet in the middle of the road
before, like I don't know if itfell off somebody's car truck.
Whatever, off the truck, allright.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:26:17):
Yeah, probably toilet .

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
Well, guys, it's me in our crazy week.
For us We're gonna be out andabout all weekend or all week.
Thursday night we're gonna bein Chicago at the house of blues
.
I'm actually gonna be coveringa rap show, so it'd be kind of
interesting and check that out.
Michael Manelli is the artistFriday night.
I think we're just gonna befans and go to a show We'll see.
I'm gonna go see Jordan Davis,i don't know.

(01:26:40):
We'll see what's going on withthat.
And then Saturday, where we hadit to, saturday, matchbox 20.
Her show so excited been waitingthree years for this show can
be excited We got to take itYeah.
I got tickets in what 2024matchbox 20 and oh, was it 2020?

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
Oh, three years we've been playing.
I was gonna tour in 2020 and.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
I got pushed back three freaking years.

Speaker 4 (01:27:03):
That's gotta be a record, don't you think I'm
curious?
actually, that's actually agood question.
I'm actually curious, like Forrescheduled shows, like for
actual ticket holders, not likecanceled tours and they're gonna
tour again next year, like youactually had a ticket, like how
long Has it been pushed out?
Do you even know where?
I hope you know where thetickets are.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
I'm so I'm taking master account.

Speaker 4 (01:27:26):
Let's hope so.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
That's another six row, so you're gonna pull.

Speaker 4 (01:27:30):
No, it's cuz it's inside.
We can't do a.
Pull a Taylor Swift and setoutside.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
No that's inside simoleen.
Yeah, we gotta drive down theQuad City.
So, yeah, well guys, as ourinterview with bond Henry comes
to a close, we can't help butfeel a sense of awe and a minor
admiration for this talentedsinger-songwriter.
His ability to express thecomplexity of human emotions
through his music is trulycaptivating.
From his powerful vocals, hispoetically or expan, henry is an

(01:27:55):
artist who is unapologeticallyhimself.
His journey in the musicindustry is a testament to the
power of passion, hard work, andwe can't wait to see where his
career takes him next.
Thank you, bond Henry, forsharing your music and your
story with us tonight, and weleft us inspired in all of your
town man.
Thank you guys for joining ustonight.
Everybody tuned in.
We hope you enjoyed theepisodes as much as we did.
Don't forget to catch up oneverything you missed from

(01:28:16):
tonight and past episodes overat melodies and memories comm.
And We'll be back next Mondaywith another amazing show, and
I'll tell you this.
This is our second artist thatwe were announcing for our July
9th Show in Nashville for ourrise round.
So we'll see you guys next week.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
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As we close the book on anotherchapter, remember music gives
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Next week, jillian and Aaronconnect more melodies and
memories with the fans andartists they love.

(01:28:54):
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