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Speaker 1 (01:57):
There you go, nailed
it.
Haven't done it in a few weeks.
You nailed it, no.
So I'm really excited fortonight's show.
I've been talking with Drew fora little bit now to get him on
the show, finally just talk tohim.
I love this guy's story.
I mean, he's local, not too faraway from grew up, not too far
from Nashville, so it'll bereally cool to sit down and
we'll talk with him.
So tonight we're going towelcome in Drew Green for
episode 165.
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Drew is a Tennessee native.
He's a son of a tree farmer anda dedicated family man.
His love of country music wassparked when he was sitting on a
tractor as a kid And since thenhe has dedicated long hours and
years of honing his craft as asinger songwriter.
Drew knows that it takes hardwork and dedication to stay
passionate about music, but forhim it's all worth it in the end
.
Drew is a shining example ofthe power of staying true to
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your passion and never giving up.
Tonight We are honored todiscuss the melodies and
memories that make up hisjourney.
We're going to bring Drew Greenon.
What's up, buddy, how you doing.
What's up, man?
Man, i'm so glad to have you on.
I know we've been talking for afew months now and I'm just
excited to because, like I said,i love your journey.
I can't wait to be able to talka little bit about it tonight,
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man.
So how you doing, and how's thebusy time of year right now for
you?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Dude, it's been crazy
right now, to be honest, but we
are surviving, we are thriving.
Man, it's been good.
We just got off the road.
I literally just landed likefour hours ago from Portland,
played with Sam Hunt thisweekend at the NASCAR race.
It was really cool.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
And just on the road
man, just on the road, a lot Man
it's good, though I meanespecially after a few years ago
, when no one who tours aregoing on is that.
I love to see how many toursare thriving this year.
Just see how many people arecoming out and it's crazy, man.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Everybody said last
year was going to be the year
you know, but I think this year.
Yeah, for me, for me it's thisyear for sure.
Like this year has just beengreat.
All the shows are like reallygreat.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
It's awesome.
So we like to kick the showback the same way every week and
just kind of get your earliestmusic memory.
man Kind of growing up, what doyou kind of remember?
just your parents listening to.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Alan Jackson My dad
was.
I think Alan Jackson's 1994album still and my dad's tape
deck, probably Because theearliest that I can remember is
Alan Jackson, brooks and Dunn.
My mom was a big fan of theMonkeys.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
You had some monkey
blood in you.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I knew all those
songs too.
I think my first CD was theMonkeys, but at the same time
Alan Jackson's probably my firstmemory of music.
I guess In my head.
I don't know if that's true ornot, but that's what I remember.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
So you grew up on a
tree farm right outside, about
90 minutes outside Nashville.
Did you used to visit Nashvillewhen you were younger, like
your parents taking you intotown or like this kind of
somewhere?
you just didn't really go.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
No man, i felt, you
know, i kind of feel like
everybody else that moved toNashville Really like even
though I didn't have to, likeyou know, pack my stuff up, but
it was like it was the firsttime I felt.
I remember being in Nashvillewas the first time I stepped
foot on stage at Tootsies.
So it was like I really I don'tremember any time as a kid
which we worked.
I grew up on a farm, so like Ifeel like we just worked my
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whole life.
But I don't remember ever goingto Nashville, which I'm sure I
did for something.
You know, like I'm like I'msure I went to Bridgestone and
saw something or I went to, butI just can't remember.
All I remember is like thefirst time being downtown I was
21.
I was like I just turned 21.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I think so, All right
.
So that brings us to kind ofour next question.
Do you remember your firstconcert on kind of what?
what kind of experience did youtake away from that?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
My first concert was
just Shanae 20 and Brooks and
Don, i think, and there was.
this had to be a long time agobecause they were planning where
I'm from, which is McMemville,which is a really small town,
and I can't imagine them evercoming there So like because it
was.
it's so small, so they had tobe just getting started.
So it had to be you know, early, you know, like 1990, probably.
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I was born in 88.
This was probably 1990, whichis a long time ago.
That's my first concert.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Hey, you're talking
my language.
I was born in 82.
So I know how that goes.
I was turned 40 last year, soyeah.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
But you tell me now
it's like wait, shanae 20 and
Brooks and Don did a concerttogether.
Like what?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, that's like an
awesome joke.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
It happened today.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
You know we have to
be like a stadium.
What happened today?
It was like the Civic Center in.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
McMemville, tennessee
, like 3000 people probably.
Maybe, maybe I can't imagine itbeing, i don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Did you think that,
man, that's kind of what I
wanted to do when you saw likeBrooks and Don up there and
stuff that first time?
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I was too young.
I was too young to say yes tothat, but I know I've had the
dream of wanting to do it sinceI was 12 is what I say.
But my mom says I could singbefore I could talk, so it's
like I've been singing my wholelife.
I think I sang like brand newman by Brooks and Don on my
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grandpa's deathbed.
I mean, i was singing.
I was singing since before Icould talk.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, Really, I mean.
So when did you first pick upyour guitar?
I mean, how did you, how didyou acquire your first guitar?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I was 13.
I was at the time I was goingto church.
I remember this guy named Wayneand my church who could play
every Creed song there was.
I thought that was the coolestthing in the world And he played
at church And I wanted to.
I was a singer, so I was all Iwant to sing in a church.
So I picked up a acoustic and Ilearned you know some licks
that way.
But then I started getting intogirls and started songwriting a
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little bit.
So I started, i started writingsongs for some girls And that's
kind of really what moved italong And I wound up joining a
like a rock band and high schoolAnd I was just.
I was just a rhythm guitarplayer.
I wasn't even a singer and waslike doing nothing.
Country at the time I waslistening to country And I'm
pretty eclectic.
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I like everything you know hiphop, rock.
At the time I was into Nirvana,you know, and some grunge, some
grunge stuff.
So it's like a.
I've been into everything, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I definitely was
researching a little bit for the
show.
I kind of learned that youstart playing at 13.
And that's kind of when I firststarted taking guitar lessons.
I don't play anymore, but Iremember like the first licks I
played was at Enorsan man byMetallica.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
That's everyone's top
five probably.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, i was playing
this old like strat that I was
playing, but it was cool because, like in high school, you
formed a garage band and whatkind of music were you guys
playing?
It was probably the creativeMetallica stuff where you guys
was jamming out.
Were you playing originals?
Cause you said you startedright around the same time.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
We were playing a lot
of Polo Mudd, which is crazy
because I just met WestScantland from Polo Mudd in the
airport last night, which waslike my I've seen.
I've seen Polo Mudd like 20times.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
So I'm like.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I'm like in the
airport, I don't get starstruck.
I mean I've met everybody incountry.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I've met a lot of
athletes, but like Peyton
Manning and West Scantland, andthere's been a few people that I
was just like I don't know whatto say to this guy right now
Like he don't know how much heimpacted my life growing up.
You know, like, like, as myteenage years were, polo Mudd.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
So I felt that way
when I met Aaron Lewis for the
first time.
I was a diehard stain guy.
I love stained And the firsttime I got to meet.
Aaron Lewis.
I was like dude, this guy's theshit dude Yeah, yeah, they're
in, they're in.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I saw them at
Starwood.
Oh yeah, they're in a bunch oftimes.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
So yeah, they used to
do at least play with Kid Rock
and those guys back in the day alot.
So that's cool, man.
So you started writing beforeyou wrote.
Did you have a journal poetry,anything like that?
Just kind of dabble a littlebit in writing before you start,
dove into songwriting.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Not really man.
I was kind of in, i was wantingto join that rock band and I
was kind of I looked up to thelead singer who wrote all their
songs.
I guess that's kind of where Igot the bug.
But I had only wrote maybe likefour songs before I started
doing it.
Okay, like professionally Iguess, like all the time you
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know, i guess like dedicating mysoul to it, but I hadn't wrote.
I didn't write that much And Ithink I only wrote about four
songs in high school.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, did you ever
look at like the liner notes and
see like the songwriter namesand stuff?
Did you ever have like anydream songwriters or just not
really knew that was a thing?
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yeah, i knew a little
bit Well, more so as I started
getting into it.
I was probably in college whenthis happened, but, like Craig
Wiseman and Brett James, who'smy publisher Some of the bucket
list guys who I've got to writewith now, which is crazy to say.
But you get, you know, you getjaded in Nashville chasing the
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dream so much you get wind updoing everything And it's like
but if you'd have told me I'dhave done that when I was 18, i
would have said you're crazy,you know.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
But Yeah, man, it was
like me, like I remember
looking in like mid 90s to seeCasey Botherd's name all the
time.
Like man, who is this guy?
This name just keeps popping upin these albums.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Everywhere.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And so this day, man,
that guy's wrote some of the
greatest songs, but he's one ofthe best out there.
Yeah, man, have you got achance to write with him at all,
or is he a bucket list?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I actually had a day.
I had a day planned with himand I had to cancel it because I
was.
I was in California or doingsome.
I was doing some of the art ofstuff you know, like that's.
That's the.
The hard part is I spent.
I spent probably six years fulltime just being a songwriter and
going through.
You know, you sign a publisherdeal and they put you through
all these motions of goingthrough writing with everyone
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and you wind up writing witheveryone.
But then the day came for mewhere it's like are you ready to
do the hardest thing?
And it was my.
For me it was so quick, but meit was like six years of
preparation.
But it was like, hey, do youwant to deal?
Okay, cool, here's your recordBam done.
Like, okay, you're busy, as,like you know, it's like a whole
new job, it's literally anentire new job that you just
added on to your full timesongwriting job.
(11:51):
And so I got to the point whereI had to stop songwriting.
Like last year I didn't.
I wrote probably half as muchas I did the past five years
before that.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
So was there a time
when you were maybe at a right
and just wasn't going well andyou guys all just had to screw
it?
We're going to go out and hangout and do something, and maybe
a song popped up that nightwhere you guys were just hanging
out.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Oh yeah, all the time
.
No, there's only been a fewtimes where it's been like a
really bad day.
You know like, well, we justdidn't.
I can.
I can count on one hand howmany times we've been like let's
just go home, boys.
You know like and maybe I can,i may be, only I can only think
of two times where it's beenlike we didn't get nothing, not
(12:35):
even a word.
You know like, there's been,there has been those, but in my
six or seven years of doing itlike full time that's only
happened about twice, two orthree times.
It's not anyone's fault, really.
I think, sometimes it's just inthe air that day.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Oh yeah, dude, i feel
that for sure.
So.
So you started playing.
We were talking a little bitabout college gigs.
You had the three or fouroriginal songs.
Along came the owner ofTootsies man.
How did all this come about?
Did he just catch you out outon a bout, or?
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Steve was at Steve's
manatee owns Tootsies, which I
didn't even know was.
I didn't even know what thatwas at the time.
I was probably my junior yearof college, which I wasn't
talking, i wasn't even 21,.
I was at a bar.
So I was.
I had a fake ID, probably I was.
I was with my fraternitybrothers.
We were probably playing liketrivia, eating wings, drinking
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beer, and this guy came in andhe wanted to hear live music.
And I knew the owner a littlebit, just enough to know, or he
was from my hometown, so he knewjust enough, cause I went to
college, you know, 30 minutesfrom where I was from anyway.
So I went to Tennessee Tech andCookville and he knew that I
had played a little bit.
So he asked me to come go playguitar and I got up there and
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I'd been drinking, just enoughto say, okay, i guess.
And I got up there.
I hadn't played in three years,you know, and at the top of
that I wasn't a singer.
I hadn't really sang in frontof anybody ever really I sing
all the time, but not like youknow actually.
And so I got up there and Isang some like Matchbox 20 and,
i think, some Alan Jackson andsome Goo Goo Dolls and whatever
I knew like just off plan.
(14:05):
I hadn't played.
I wasn't even that good atguitar to be on I still ain't
that good at guitar.
But I got up there and I playedand he came over to me and was
like man, i really want to giveyou a job If you're interested.
I thought it's like 1130 PM.
I thought he was, you know,three, six three, six, like.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
Just thought he was
like me, you know.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
And I'm like okay,
okay.
Yeah, you're gonna get to callat 9AM for my son.
You want, I want you to comeplay at Tutsis And I'm like all
right, And I got to call at 9, Iwon the next morning.
Like all the time He was like,can you come in today?
And I was like yeah, so I justdidn't go to class that day.
I just dropped everything I wasdoing right then and drove up to
Nashville and I walked intoTutsis for the first time.
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You know, i'm in my cowboyboots, i'm walking and I really
don't.
I'm thinking I'm going in foran interview to be, honest,
because he didn't tell meanything.
So I didn't practice, i didn'tlearn nothing, i didn't, i
didn't do nothing.
So, yeah, i walk in and thisold guy walks up to me and says
you ready, cowboy?
And they just threw me up onthe stage And next thing I know
(15:06):
I'm playing sweet home.
Alabama with full band at 11AMin the morning, messing it up?
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I think I messed it
up really bad and was like well,
i'm done there.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
They don't want
nothing to do with me.
You know, And somebody came byand requested good directions by
Billy, Billy Currington.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
I loved that song.
I remember singing it as a kidsitting on a tractor, you know,
like I knew I thought I knewevery word to it, but I pulled
it up on my phone just in case,you know, and I did a pretty
good job on that one.
Everybody, like you know,clapped and I got like three
more requests and they were likecan you?
you know, they kind of kickedme off the stage and asked me if
I could come back that night atsix And I can't believe they
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kept me.
you know, but I was like ohwell, i don't.
I know about four songs.
Can y'all give me like a setlist?
And they gave me a set list andI went out to my truck and I
sat there all day learningeverything And I so I sat there
for about you know, six, sixhours learning all the songs.
And I came back that night andsang with a.
I had a girl singer, so shekind of led that you know,
showed me the ropes of how to doeverything, run the tip jar,
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and I did that for about sixmonths and I wasn't making any
money because I was driving twohours every day, i wasn't going
to class, i was failingeverything.
I was failing everything youknow.
So I quit.
I quit music altogether and Istarted playing acoustic shows
at college, you know, at thelocal bars there.
I started getting this reallybig following, like really big,
(16:30):
and it was just like you know.
maybe I can do this.
I was the only country actingtown at the time.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Were you going to
college at?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Tennessee Tech,
cookville, and there was this
bar called Spankies and it wasright on campus, nice, and it
was like college night Andthat's when I got my first like
opportunity to play there andthe cops got called like three
times.
There's a line out the backpeople hanging like hanging off
the rafters.
It was absolutely insane And Iwas like.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
You know what I think
.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I'm, i can do this
for a living, you know, and
that's when, as soon as thathappened, you know, from like
about right then on, it's beenmy, you know, been my mission
and my goal, my main, my maindream, and which you know.
I worked at a bank for twoyears.
After that I got married andgot out of school, but at the
same time I was still doing alittle bit of this and a little
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bit of that And finally I quitthe bank and got right into
doing.
I went back to Tutsis and theyremembered me for some reason
And I got back in there and Istayed there for like four more
years And that's really where Igot my entertainment chops, i
guess when I started writing,and where it's where it really
started me.
I have a lot to Tutsis for, awhole lot Steve Smith did a
whole lot for me.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Hell yeah, man.
Okay, we, i have heard in thenotes you know I'm meeting
Hunter Phelps while working outthere And that's kind of where
you kind of sparked thatsomewhere in relationship with
him.
And you still it's right withhim till the stage, don't you Oh
?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
yeah, we're good
buddies.
I just talked to him like 30minutes ago.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Hell yeah, dude.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
But yeah, we, he, i
owe a lot to him too, man.
I mean he was, i was on stageand I was opening for him.
I played the six to 10 shiftand he played.
He was always working at thebank all day, going and then
singing from six to 10, drivinghome doing that all day for
about two years.
And then he heard a song that Iwrote for my wife and my guitar
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player string broke on the lastsong And he was like they're
like just play one acoustic.
So it was like a dead Tuesdaynight.
There was probably four peopleIt was probably four people And
I was playing and I just playedone that I wrote for my wife and
he asked me if I wrote it Andhe came to my, he drove all the
way out to lead in the next dayand wrote with me And we wrote
every day for like a yeartogether.
We were best friends man And hewas, you know, a little bit
ahead of me And he he signed adeal with Ashley Gorley, which
(18:38):
is, like you know, the biggestsongwriter of all time, and he's
just absolutely on fire as asongwriter right now.
I'm proud of him.
He's one of my best friends.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
So before you left
the bank too, you're a firm was
a big promotion of the bank,weren't you?
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Yeah, yeah, I just
got promoted to like manager and
trainer, Like I was going tohave my own branch.
You know, like in, it was likea nine month program where they
give you your own branch andyour own, you know, be the
manager of my own location orwhatnot, But I quit the next day
.
I just I had already beenthinking about it and I talked a
(19:16):
lot about it.
It was just on my heart, youknow, and I had to support it
too, so that was awesome.
It was everything, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
So that's one thing I
want to kind of touch on
because I wrote this down.
My wife here, she's a nurse,she's a nursing leadership.
You've been doing it for yearsAnd that's the reason why I get
kind of get to do photographyand do this And I worked at
dispensary during the day parttime.
But she lets me kind of chasemy dreams on the side too.
And it's been kind of coolbecause when I was reading and
researching this you kind ofwere in the same boat a little
(19:44):
bit.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Your wife's a nurse
practitioner.
She helped you, she made allthe money.
That's why I was kind ofkidding.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I wasn't really
saying that.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yeah, I'll be
straight up honest.
You made all the money and Ispent all the money.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
But like, even when
you were kind of doing some work
and you're getting some moneyand kind of working on touching
stuff, she's like you just kindof bank that money And that's
kind of I get my, i get tipswhere I work at part time.
I work at dispensary here inIllinois.
We're between or in Chicagoarea, so I work at dispensary
during the day and we get tipsout there And that's kind of
like my money to put back intowhat I do.
Like I do concert photographyand then do this podcast and
(20:17):
everything too.
So it's really cool that shelets me, she's flexible and lets
me do that And I'm kind of helpthe kids and do the dad thing
all day long too.
We have a six year old and nineyear old, so it's all.
It's an interesting day aroundhere.
Summer just started.
But dude, just going back tothat, i mean with her support
and everything, what do you?
(20:37):
what does that mean to you, man?
Speaker 4 (20:40):
I mean at the time I
was, I mean I probably took it
for a little more for grantedthan I do now, for sure.
But, dude, i mean it waseverything.
I would literally work at thebank all day And then, when I
quit the bank, i would writesongs all day and then sing
songs all night And I'd get homeat 3 30 in the morning and be
(21:01):
back at about 10 or 11 the nextmorning, and every single day,
seven days a week, not fiveevery day.
And every song that I wrote Iprobably demoed, because every
song I wrote I thought I wanted,you know, i thought was good
and I would spend the money on ademo.
So all the money I made atTussies went to beer and demos.
Really, because I mean becauseI was drinking it That's just
(21:24):
what I always say.
Like you know, it was providingme like the times to write
songs.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
And.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I just she was always
there, you know, working She
works harder than I do, which isI've never I can't imagine
anyone work harder than me Andshe does.
She's a hard worker And she'sbeen supportive of me the whole
way And it's been crazy causewe've been together for I guess
(21:49):
about 11 years now And wemarried right out of college And
it's been pretty crazy to seelike me grow, you know, and like
her support change as we getinto these final, like these
bigger like I just played in myfirst arena show last week with
Sam Hunt, you know like my firstlike sold out, like just, you
know, the biggest show thatsomeone in my platform gets to
(22:11):
play, pretty much, you know, andit's like and I got to bring
her with me And we had I knowI'm on the bus and like you know
, she's like it's her first timeon a tour bus, it's her first
time doing anything like me andmy seeing my whole crew meeting
my whole team And it's like itwas kind of really cool for me
for her to like seeing her facebe like wow, like holy shit,
like He's really doing it, thecrew is doing it, you know, Yeah
(22:32):
.
It was like it was the firstmoment for like it was really
good for us.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I'm sure you've had a
couple of moments like that too
where I'm going around.
I got to shoot shoot Luke Combsa couple of weeks ago in
Pittsburgh And that was kind ofcool man And that's huge.
So yeah, it was the big stadiumtour And I got to do the whole
work with his photographer andstuff and run around and do all
that And it was just, it wasamazing dude.
So it's cool to be able to dosome stuff, it pays off.
Yeah, so I love that man.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
It's just a team.
Just a team, just likeeverything else is.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
So in everything like
well, I kind of read about it,
She gave you pretty much a fiveyear, five years to make it in
10 year town man, She kind ofgave you a half year.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
I mean she was like
you got five years.
It wasn't like that.
It was like we both kind ofsaid I mean, five years is long
enough, right To have like anymusic success at all.
And boy, I'll cut, barely cutit.
Yeah, you're about four and ahalf months in.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
And then you got the
call what was it from Hardy that
bought Colorado, man, Florida,Georgia, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I was in the hospital
, like wearing my scrubs, like
literally.
My wife was about to have aC-section And I'm like going
into the room which I don't asmy first child, so I didn't even
know that my son was like 10minutes away from being born.
At the time I thought we had,you know, go through this
process, but no, she's like,like she's already getting
injected.
Like it's like, it's like rightnow It's quick, She's like yo,
(23:53):
what's up, man?
And he's like what are you doing?
I'm like I'm having a baby,what are you doing?
And he was like yo, floridaGeorgia line is going to cut
this song.
At the time Kid Rock and JasonAldean were gonna.
I had already got a call like acouple of weeks before that
from Hardy or 101 saying thatKid Rock and Jason Aldean were
(24:14):
going to cut it Like as a duo,and I was like that's just
killer.
You got to also remember at thetime I had probably wrote in
about 1500 to 2000 songsindependent, no publishing deal,
getting paid $0 to write anysong I've ever wrote in my
entire life.
And so I'm like wait, my firstcut's gonna be Aldean and Kid
(24:36):
Rock.
And he calls me I'm having ababy.
And he calls me.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
no, florida Georgia
line just took it, they're
cutting like 100%.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
I'm like and I'm like
the huge.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
FGL fam.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I love Tyler Hubbard.
He's one of my like he's, i'm a.
He inspired me a lot too as asongwriter.
He's one of the bestsongwriters in town.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
They started a whole
new genre of music, dude.
I feel like a whole new genreof music.
He writes like the best.
I mean he writes.
He's a hard worker man.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
They both are, And
they were they, just they
changed the world.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yep, they're amazing
songwriters or innovators.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
They changed a lot,
you know, and I'm like, holy
crap, all right, cool.
And then I'm like I got to goAnd I'm grabbing a baby.
And so it was like three weekslater they surprised me.
I was riding with Hunter andHardy comes walking across the
street drinking a beer And I'mlike what are you doing?
Like downtown, like Midtown,nashville, I'm like what are you
doing?
And he's like you're done, it'sabout to change brother.
(25:28):
And they took me over across thestreet And I got to watch Joy
Moy and the whole crew cutColorado and like the whole
thing which is really fullcircle now, because that was my
first cut, which led to me apublishing deal, which led to me
a record deal, and now I'm kindof working on my own little
album kind of thing, or not ahundred percent, sure you, how I
want, how I want to present it.
(25:48):
But I called Hardy like acouple of months ago and said,
you know, like I feel likeColorado was the thing that
started me.
Like it's kind of like my firstchild, in a way, it's like my
first baby, and I wanted to kindof go with me and Florida
Georgia line didn't single itI'm thinking about putting on my
record And Hardy was like man,you beat me to it.
(26:09):
I was thinking the same thing,and so we just went in together
and recorded it together, and soI'm going to put out Colorado
featuring Hardy, which is goingto be killer, you know, and I
haven't I don't think we've he'smentioned Hicks tapes, put it
on Hicks tapes, but I think I'mgoing to put it out myself on my
record If I can.
If I can't, that's cool too.
But he's the boss, probably.
(26:31):
You know he's farther alongthan me.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Whatever he, wants to
do.
That's awesome.
I love the Hicks tapes.
All you know is those man.
I'm a big fan of.
I'm a huge fan of Ashlyn Craftdude And that last one she had
on the last rocker was awesome.
So, all right man.
Well, yeah, dude, it's justcrazy Like those last 24 hours,
those 24 hours of your life,just how quick everything
changed.
And tell me a little bit,before we kind of move on, about
(26:55):
being a dad at the time,because we kind of went through
the same situation We got rushedinto the C section, i got put
scrubs on all this stuff.
I had no clue what was going on.
I was like you, i thought wehad some time And all of a
sudden next thing, i know I'm ina recovery room holding a baby
and I'm running where my wife is.
But tell me a little bit aboutjust like that situation for you
going through that for thefirst time, i mean it was by far
(27:19):
the craziest.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
I guess if you don't
believe in God or I'm not a
preacher by any means, but thatwas the first time I was like
wow, you know, like this isincredible, like we shoot.
It was like real quick.
You know, she had I forget whathad happened, but something
wrong happened And it was timeto, like, you know, quick C
section and it was just it was.
(27:45):
He was, like, you know, wrappedaround the core, all everything
that you hear in stories, thebad stuff, you know, all that
was like happened real quick onthe one and It was just a.
And the doctor like thosedoctors are amazing, you know,
it's just like.
I mean I guess they do it everyday between me.
I'm just like thank you so much, like all my hands and knees,
like thanking I'm, you know,like It's a, it's a, it's a
(28:06):
beautiful thing, for sure It wascrazy, it was intense, i feel
like.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
it was just like wow.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
God is.
Wow, he's over here looking me.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
She's like why you
guys talking about kind of like
this I'm like cuz like you,don't you never you didn't get
to see all that like what theguys went through.
Did you get to cut the cord toafterwards like they get.
(28:36):
Let you cut a little piece ofit.
Oh, yeah, yeah they let me cutit like they already had it,
like the tap or whatever.
But they let me cut like alittle piece of it.
I got to cut a little littlepiece and this and that I'm like
all right, that's cool, i'll dothat.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
It was crazy man It
was, it was awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
The second one, we
got the schedule.
It was a breeze.
We're in and we're out.
So, But becoming a dad is kindof kind of wanted to go into
this next segment.
A good old man dude.
That's kind of what led me toyou.
When I first heard that song Ikind of really dig, dug into
your backstory a little bit andstarted listening to you more of
(29:13):
your songwriting stuff.
I loved it, man.
But when I heard good old mandude, it just changed.
I quit drinking, be what.
Three and a half years now Iquit drinking and just kind of
changed myself up.
So when I heard that song I waslike damn dude, this is really.
It was hitting me.
So I'm sure I'm one of the manydads that probably reached out
to you this and that, but it hadover 21 million streams on
Spotify, dude.
It became a tiktok sensation.
(29:33):
I, when did you first see thatsong catching on?
like how did you like kind ofsee that kind of going viral
almost?
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Well, i knew when I
wrote it that it was really
special, and then it was gonnabe something Like in my heart it
was a number one.
The second, we started ridingit, like I'm like I think this
is no matter Who sings it, idon't give a shit who it is,
this is gonna be on, you know,the biggest of the biggest.
I knew that this was my momentand And uh, but really I guess,
(30:03):
to be honest, the second, likethe night after I posted it was
like the fuck was fucking insane.
I mean, like literally eighthours, and to me posting it,
there was already 23,000 peoplehad already used it in their
truck and the same doing thesame video that it may have like
put like Flashing the cameraover to their kid, like in like
like one line.
They didn't even heard the songyet.
(30:24):
It was literally just.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I got it.
It was a little section I.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Won't need to be a
little better if he's gonna want
to be like me.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
That's all.
They had one, one line, youknow, and that was just like six
million.
That's crazy which is forcountry, for in country.
That's like I don't think itmight be the record still, i
don't even know if it's onethat's been over that I'm sure.
I'm sure there is, but Therewas.
It was a moment, for sure andit was just like Okay, this is
(30:53):
the song, this is what we do,you know, and and this is still
kind of where, like, the recordlabels and everybody are like
kind of new To take, talk likewhat the hell are we doing?
It's why it was a Kind of I'mlike well, we need to be going
radio.
No, it's like, well, hold on,nobody knows who you are, you
know, let's say, let's justchill out.
It was a.
It was a weird moment for mebecause it was like a lot Just
(31:14):
beat every record at.
On that day.
I beat every record and countrymusic history, i think, on tick
tock and it was like, okay,cool, we're gonna be on the
radio tomorrow, right, andthat's just not how it works.
It was insane, really, and butmore importantly, the most
(31:35):
importantly, the people that'stouched and Which it was
unplanned you know like it wasjust a true story about me and
trying to.
I was, i Was just thinking aboutlittle things.
You know like me cutting backon dipping you know like, and me
Because I found one I rememberspecifically leave out being
(31:55):
like two year, like or You know,oh baby, and I left my dip out
and he got, you know, he gotinto, didn't open it, but he was
playing with me, i'm like whatthe hell am I doing?
Like me coming home from to usHe's at 3 30 in the morning,
like, and I had been, you know,been drinking a little bit or
whatever, just like little.
That's not a little thing, butI got, i'm saying me me
(32:15):
realizing that I need to changea little bit.
And then the second day that Iposted this song, i had probably
Realistically like 500 messagesfrom people that weren't in a
good place in their life and itwas like Just that one line, one
line, and they didn't evenheard the song.
And the one line I'm gettingmessages from guys that are in
(32:41):
prison.
Somehow they get their ticktalking in prison.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
That amazes me.
I've seen it.
I don't know how that happens.
That shocks me.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
People tell me
they're in prison.
You know, i've got.
I've got.
I've got 11 months left And Iknow the first thing I'm gonna
do when I come out It's gonna bea good dad, you know, whatever
just little messes like that.
That's like my dreams made, myjob is done.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I love that you wrote
it with Lee Stark.
I'm a huge fan of my boy too.
With LV Shane.
He was a part of that.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
They wrote that song
beautiful.
That's an old song.
Yeah, we had all.
We had all just started me, himand Russell and LV Yeah, there
was a LV's a monster to.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Russell's played a
couple of our writers rounds.
We do a nastro.
Live oak.
We love him to death.
Man, he's amazing.
So before we move on to our funpart of the night, i kind of
want to ask you a couple lastminute questions.
One is we're based betweenChicago Milwaukee And we share
(33:49):
some pictures while we'retalking tonight and a couple
came up of you kind of hangingout a little Little pool in the
basement of a venue.
So I wanted to ask you, kind oflike, when you went to the rave
man, what do you think of thatplace for the first time?
Oh, i'll go into the rave ofMilwaukee.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
It's cool.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
I'll be, I'll be
completely honest.
I didn't know much that muchabout it until you know coming
up to it.
You know, and I'd seen thatpicture of Who was Matt Miller.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, Mac Miller's
autographs on the pool.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I had seen that
picture before and I didn't put
two and two together Until I wasstanding in the pool like I'm
like oh my god, this is it, thisis the pool.
This is like and, dude, it'screepy.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Dude.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
I don't know, i don't
.
I'm not like a spook person.
My manager, like you know,chase's ghost and stuff.
I'm not.
I'm not like I don't get reallythat scared of that kind of
stuff.
I'm like you know, i've heardstories and and I've got some
ghost stories, but I don't, idon't know if I'm like a
full-blown believer, you know.
So it's like, but no, no, no,no, this pulls creepy.
Yeah, it's, it's got vibes init for sure, and they they got a
(34:52):
security guard that sits downin there and That's his job is
to just watch the pool.
I'm like, why are you watchingthe pool?
for there's nobody in here.
I'm like there's somethingfishy going on.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, we're another
few times.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Definitely.
It's definitely creepy, but thevenues kick ass.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
It's a cool venue
right.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
It's amazing What's
the old Rockets three or four?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
levels.
Yeah, I said that's the place.
I saw it like it was limpbiscuit Corn or no, let me have
a limp biscuit corn and kid rockall the same night in that
building in the ball.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
It was like 99 the
green rooms are still decorated
from when Prince came.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Streets and stuff
everywhere.
Yeah, i mean, you're like what?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
is going on like this
happened when he played here
like that's how rich this dudeis.
He had like like glow, like Idon't know.
I was just like blown away,like like it was another moment
where I'm like dude, like Thisis happening.
I'm in a van, i'm in a vanoutside, but This is really cool
in here.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
How was it playing
Joe's bar for your first time in
Chicago, i mean that place isso legendary dude.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Joe's was crazy.
It was coming right out of Kobe, so it was like a little bit, a
Little bit crazy on the outside, like on the outside of Joe's
you know, like you know, I wasworried about someone breaking
into the bus or something likeit was just it was a little
crazy at the time, but Joe's was, it was sold out.
I Never had, you know, deepdish pizza like that.
(36:16):
You know, i forget, i forgetwhat's the what's the best place
there?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
It's probably my
nighties.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Yeah, yeah, man, it
was insane.
Each piece weighs like 10pounds.
That's my favorite, i mean Iwas like okay, my life is
changed.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
What am?
Speaker 4 (36:34):
I doing.
I don't even need pizza anymorehere.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
The goal is to come
in the night before and eat it
the night before, so we don'teat it before you go on stage,
because your night's ruinedafter you eat that.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Yeah, but no, it was
just like the legendary as a, as
a songwriter, wanted to be anartist's whole life.
You know you hear about placesand that's one of the top 10
places you hear about.
You know it's by far, andthat's not just me, i'll speak
for every country artist in thein the business, for sure, that
they everyone's heard aboutJoe's and that's where, like,
that's where you cut your teeth,that's where, like, if you've
(37:04):
played it, joe's, you're on yourway up.
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, we live about
45 minutes from the Raven, 45
minutes from Joe's, so we'relike perfect in the middle.
We love it.
It's funny, the very next pitpicture I pulled up.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
The taco was really
really cool, man, i enjoyed.
That was my first time there.
I went to Al Capone's house Wehad okay, yeah, you know, we
haven't done that we, we shoulddo that.
Huge.
I'm a huge gangster like fan.
Like I got all like boardwalkEmpire, all the shows you know,
yeah, yeah, i'm a huge, i'm ahuge fan.
(37:40):
So I went to his house and likethis guy came across the street
.
He knew he kind of saw what wewere doing.
You know, i'm gonna you gottaremember, i'm not gonna nine-man
crew, so it's like a bunch ofwalking around with cameras.
Right, you know I'm dancing outfrom his house.
You know it's like like we'redefinitely something's going on.
And he was, he was, he wastelling us stories about.
You know, He was like he wouldwatch, he would watch his house
(38:03):
for him while he was gone doingstuff and like let he'd call him
And let him know when he couldcome back.
And all this crazy I was, itwas really cool.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I'm gonna along with
his manager.
I like the whole goats chasingthing.
Yeah, i got some cool storiestoo.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
That'd be awesome,
just like the history She had
such a strong history of, likeyou know.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I'm sure your manager
knows about, like the st
Valentine's Day massacre Andthat place was like one of the
most haunted areas in Chicagofor long time.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
My manager is Brett
James, who's the songwriter, so
you get him.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, Halloween show
started.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Get more.
He started, you know, get moreto When?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
oh, hardy has some
stories to.
Hardy was talking about some.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Kips got some crazy.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
It was his old house
that kept you so worried and
like the attic right.
Yeah, Yes, but when?
Speaker 4 (38:52):
they signed me.
When Corbin signed me that Ispent my last month in that
building and I've only got onestory That's like doesn't even
come close to some of theirstories like kip lived there,
Yeah.
I keep would wake up and hearlike someone sweeping the floors
, like a party going ondownstairs and walk downstairs
And there's nothing there.
Oh, thank you Good and but hewas, like you know, sent, from
(39:14):
what I've heard, that they saidthey're all friendly and stuff
You gotta let me tell a storyThat's like I'll let him talk
for me.
One time I was leaving and thebasement lot was on and I went
inside, ruby, set the key codeI'm downtown Nashville too, by
the way.
So it's like right behindwinners and losers on midtown
and I'll go down And I turnedthe lights off and I go back,
set the keypad again, lock thedoor.
(39:35):
It's like an old, old house,like Johnny Cash used to live
there.
Thank you, like so.
Well, we live and I get back inmy car, like my truck.
I get back in my truck and Ilook down the last round again.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, i've always
interesting.
There's always cool hearingdifferent things.
Man, like I'm really big on therhyming and like I've heard, oh
, so many stories about therhyming and I know you played
there.
It's kind of one of yourfavorite venues that you
mentioned about.
But, like I know I know there'ssome shit going on at the
rhyming dude.
Oh, there's some legends stillwalking that building for sure.
So well, man, we can sit hereand talk about this shit all
(40:18):
night.
What is the rest of your footfor you?
I know you got some derriestrecord dates.
Used it, some hand Sam Huntstuff.
What was 2023 look like for you?
a new music, anything you'reworking on that you could talk
about?
yeah, man.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
The touring stuff is
really going insanely well right
now.
We got CMA Fest this week andthen Carolina Country Music Fest
the Saturday and the next weekWe got two shows with the
derriest and barefoot countrymusic family, with just all the
festivals and I'm fortunateenough to be Invited back to
(40:49):
half of them and been getting toget to do this for a living is
just insane at this point, youknow, and Finally get finally
getting enough and having theright format and eight like CAA
has been incredible for me.
They've.
They've booked me with the besttime in Darius Rutgers, sam
Hunt, just a small little bitand that.
So that's going really good.
(41:10):
I do have a song coming out June16th called yep, so I've been
leaking a lot on The socials andstuff like that.
Really, it's probably one of myfavorite songs.
It's actually I didn't.
It was my first song in a longtime that I didn't.
I didn't write, which is crazybecause I wrote everything that
I put out, but Hunter Phelpswrote it.
It was my first pitch meetingand like for me as an artist and
(41:35):
they you know all thepublishers come in and show the
songs and I Heard his voice.
I mean, he's my best friend, sohard.
I was like why didn't he show methis before?
And I heard it and I was likeyep, and it's called yep and
it's, it's really, it's reallygood country.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
You should just
change like two lyrics.
Pitch it to him Now.
Throw me another one as aco-writer.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
I ain't that way.
I respect that.
Yeah, for sure.
I hear you do that, that'sawesome.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
But how different was
that for you to cut something
that was kind of a little bitoutside your your not outside
your thing, but just likeoutside your writing.
I mean, you didn't write it andyou say you cut everything.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
I mean I felt like I
wrote it.
Yeah, okay, Like we taught eachother how to ride a little bit.
Yeah, I mean more so him thanme, but like I just felt like it
was something we already did.
You know, my Maybe he did showit to me a long time ago.
I don't know.
But I knew that as soon as Iheard it I was like It's for me
and I Cut it and I'm excited, ican't wait, i cannot waste.
(42:34):
Like the best live song we haveto.
It's going over really good.
Everybody's screaming yep.
It's like it's it's, it'sgrowing, it's growing and it's
not even out yet.
So I'm excited, i'm reallyexcited to see where that goes,
and I've got so much musicproduced already and On top of
that I'm back to writing prettyhard and it's just we got, we
have a little so much musicready that I want to put out.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah, oh yeah, dude.
Well man, we can't wait.
We'll share the hell out of itAnd we may yep comes out, We'll
be pushing it all over places asmuch as we can dude.
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We pulled a couple cardsearlier.
The first one is do you haveany pre-show rituals or routines
before you had it on stage,anything that kind you got to do
before you head out?
Speaker 4 (43:46):
Well, we pray before
every show, and I drank a couple
beers and I Usually go off.
The only time I spend by myself, i'll probably go off and I'll
smoke one cigarette before Iplay, before I play, and What,
what said no singer ever.
But that's what.
That's what I do, that's myritual here.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Oh, yeah, man, Yeah,
you gotta take a few minutes for
yourself sometimes too, so loveit.
Our second was do you have, doyou did, any of your father's
hobbies or passions rub off onyou, and do you see any of yours
rubbing off on your kids?
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Oh, Man, i guess when
I say, when you say passion,
the first thing that comes tomind.
My dad was work.
I kind of I got into musicbecause my daddy was a
workaholic and I feel like heworked to me a little bit a lot
on the farm, not more thananybody else or anything.
I just I feel like that's whatkind of got me into music.
(44:40):
So I didn't have to, i didn't,i could play music, so I'd have
to work and Anyway, and that'swhat kind of Led me to the dream
.
And now that I'm chasing it I'mworking just as hard or harder
as he did and it's kind of likethat's that.
That shows me that I was.
You know, i maybe we're just toomuch alike.
That's why we didn't get alongthat well on the farm.
But uh, when it comes to mykids Not my Levi, not not sure
(45:05):
yet you know he likes rhyming.
He's always like rhyming,because I'm always running
around the house like rappingand singing.
He likes doing that.
So I'm like maybe he's got anend of my little bit, but I Mean
my dad hobbies when fishing.
I love, i love fishing, i loveNASCAR, i love every.
We all like the same thingsdrinking beer.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
I love that.
We're gonna play a couple gamesreal quick.
This first one is calledMelodies and Memories.
It's kind of funny because acouple of these songs we've
already kind of touched on.
But I'm gonna play four clipsof songs.
First, memory you have on it.
We'll talk about it for a quicksecond.
Okay, let me pull this up.
Um, hit to the yellow one first, and she, she don't know, she's
(45:49):
beautiful.
Sammy Kershaw, man, when youhear that sign, where's it take
you?
Speaker 4 (45:54):
I see a dusty road.
I see a dirt, a dirt roadbetween two, uh, green giants
covered in tree spiders, sittingon a cabal, a tractor, sitting
on a smoker boat, a tractor inthe middle of Tennessee in the
middle of day and just likeliterally covered in bugs and
just like Nasty, like just likedriving going like point three
(46:17):
miles an hour, just screaming atthe top of my lungs, looking
over my dad's like.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
I love that these are
all literally it.
These songs are all preloaded.
I know I've had these songsloaded for a probably month now
since we've been going back forthe show, so it's really wild
that this next song made it,because we've already kind of
what happened to you a coupledays ago.
Go ahead, hit the green one.
So blurry but old mud dude,when you hear that song, where's
(46:55):
it take you?
Speaker 4 (46:55):
I'm 16 years old and
A garage band playing it and
probably I was proud.
I listened to that freakingrecord and him so much man, as a
matter of fact, that My itmight be the municipal
auditorium watching him play toplaying it, playing it So, which
I saw them play so many times,it was so crazy.
(47:18):
I met him yesterday.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Yes, yeah, that's
awesome, That's crazy.
I got to see him out in Memphis.
They do Beale Street music festand puddle mode played it one
year and I got to see him asfreaking awesome dude.
All right, hey, green, this isgonna be a good one.
That's my number one, Yeah sowhere does that take you, man?
What was the first memory popsin your head of that song?
Speaker 4 (47:42):
Probably sit on a
boat like just.
I.
Heard that song so many timesin my life and saying that song
so many times my life.
I feel like that's been a partof me my whole life.
So I don't have a certainmemory, it's just like that's
just one of the to me.
One of the reasons I'm sittinghere talking like this is like
that's, like that's countrymusic in a shell to me, like
that's one of the best songs ofall time.
That's what and that's.
(48:03):
I'm just a huge Ellen Jacksonfan, like if there was one
artist I could do anything withor go anywhere.
I'm seeing him so many timesbut like He's just the, he's the
goat to me of all of allcountry artists like that I know
there's been.
Like I'm not like on paper thisor that or who's the best.
He is my favorite countryartist of all time.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
And I always will be
yeah, he's amazing.
That's how I feel about allthis.
Next song hit the yellow one,we'll do that one real quick.
So church centers, like I wasgoing through research and some
stuff, i saw these names pop upbut I was like, all right, these
would be good ones, buteverything, you see, i don't
know if you can see the trippingrun.
(48:42):
I love you can see the cameras,everything you see behind us
there, church stuff.
So we're huge Eric church fansand all been collecting stuff.
Speaker 4 (48:53):
No, i'll once again.
I don't think I was even 21year.
He was playing, like you know,before that song he was even out
.
I mean, it was this.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
It's probably like
2005.
He was playing lightning.
Speaker 4 (49:04):
He was playing
lightning Susie, before I even
played there, like, like beforeI mean I just started playing
there, you know, i just, i Don'tknow, that was crazy, i was
like So, I don't know.
I guess it wasn't 2005.
I guess it wasn't Tussies, idon't know downtown somewhere.
I'd been somewhere and seeingplay, maybe 10 roof, i don't
know.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Yeah, he played.
He played a thing at 10 roof,it was a.
It was a pub crawl is like, andthen across the street like
they're expending, played orsomething.
It was wild.
I remember that show the night.
Speaker 4 (49:33):
The night that I got
my job at Tussies whatever,
playing at that bar, some gotsome random guy who's one of my
best friends now is in JeremyMackie.
He works for FedEx and Google.
As my boy right there He would.
He would come what.
He came up to me and he saidyou sound good singing country,
you need to listen to this album.
And he handed me there, like ina bar or randomly hands me Eric
(49:53):
church album.
Why do you have Eric churchalbum in a bar?
now He's back to throwing dartsand I'm like Okay and I he let
me have it and I took it and IListened.
That that's probably the most.
That's probably the most recordlisten to record I've ever
listened to.
Ever.
I mean, that's what got me intolike full-blown song writing
was Eric church.
For sure I got sinners like metattooed on my forearm right
here.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
This is one of my
songs.
I love it.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
Have you ever seen
the?
Speaker 1 (50:16):
sinners like me video
, music video All right when it
ends.
It ends with like a sinnerslike me tattoo in the air.
That's my arm, okay, so you?
Speaker 4 (50:26):
ever go back and see
that that's me.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
That's my little
clean defense.
That's insane and that's Aaron.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
And that's Aaron.
Aaron would walk around sayinghe would, we would go stop and
we'd buy a stack of Eric churchCDs And he just hand them out to
random people.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
He did the same thing
, so I'm a hundred every
everywhere we went, he was.
I'm such a big fan.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
They're in the ACM,
sir, cmas, one of my last year,
like a year ago, i somehow gotinto his like private, like
private event party.
I don't know how I got in thereand it's like the biggest of
the like.
You know, morgan, it's me, himand Morgan wall and standing
there like, and I got my back tohim like in a way like I've
never met him.
You know, at the time I'd metMorgan a few times, so like that
(51:06):
guy was my man, morgan, and Igot before, but that was kind of
my end to Eric and I was like Italked to him for a second but
there was.
I wasn't supposed to be there,so I was, you know.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Right.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
It's fine over my
shoulders, actually his Gibson
hummingbird, his first one hehad on my hundred show.
He gave it to me on stage Andso cool.
There's a cigar burn on the topof it.
He used to walk out on stagewith a cigar and it burnt right
through the lacquer, the guitar.
There's a crack down the middle.
He's like tell me all thesestories after he gave it to me.
But it's a he all of his oldmusic videos and stuff.
That's actually his Gibsonhummingbirds sitting behind me,
(51:40):
so that's like my most prizedpossession.
But yeah, he's the man dude andhe's.
I feel like he changed a gamefor singer songwriters in the
town.
He's one of the biggest thereever was.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
I love that.
So I mean, we're gonna put youon the hot seat real quick.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
We're gonna put you
on the hot seat real quick.
Where it's ten quick questions,first answer that comes to mind
.
I think we already talked aboutthe first one the first CD or
vinyl you ever purchase 1994Ellen Jackson.
Yeah, where's your happy place,man?
Where do you like to go to justkind of chill for a little bit?
Speaker 4 (52:08):
Video games.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
Hell yeah, who has
the best pizza you ever had?
Speaker 4 (52:14):
What was that place
in Chicago?
Well, what's your wallpaper onyour phone?
Speaker 1 (52:21):
My kids, hell yeah.
What's the movie that you canalways make you laugh?
The mask, no, hell yeah.
What's your first?
what was your first job?
Speaker 4 (52:32):
Outside of the farm.
I guess a Walmart.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Oh boy, all right,
what's the oldest thing you own?
Speaker 4 (52:41):
That's a great
question, you know, i guess my
house.
No, i got, i got a banjo.
That was nice.
It was really like, i think,like 1916 or something like
whenever first starting to evenmake them or something It was.
It's like a I can't even play,i don't even know.
It's like not a real banjo,it's like the beginning step
(53:03):
phases.
It came from a guy, long storyshort, long story long So.
But I think that might be it.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
It's a good question.
Hell yeah, man, what chore doyou not like doing What?
Speaker 4 (53:17):
chore.
Yeah, dustin, hi, hey Dustin.
That's cool, mine's foldingclothes.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
I don't sound like
folding clothes.
I'll wash them, i won't foldthem.
Speaker 4 (53:27):
I'm not a big cook or
either.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
All right, i'll do
that every now and then, but
yeah, what was your favoritechildhood television show to
watch?
Speaker 4 (53:35):
Hmm, i Guess Batman.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
Oh yeah, all right,
and our last one for the
nightmare.
You got to play the rhyme andyou got to do some really cool
stuff so far in your career, butwhat's something that's still
in your bucket list, maybe likea venue or something that you
just want, still want to achievein the music industry?
Speaker 4 (53:58):
I still haven't
played the opera, which is
pretty Pretty up there.
That's like a, that's a like onthe countryside bucket list.
Red Rocks is the first one thatcame to my mind when you said
that Madison Square Gardenobviously was like what
everybody wants to play and Butfor me I get an actually, to be
(54:21):
honest, probably the bridge downarena.
It's like that's like the endgame.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
Yeah, we just watched
the jelly roll, a documentary
today and that was kind of likewhat he said, being from the
area and you're from not farfrom.
Yeah, 90 miles out of.
Nashville, that'd be for you todo, man, if you got to play
that bridge stone, do it?
Speaker 4 (54:39):
hell yeah, probably
the bridge stone out of all
those I just said.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Bridge down, yeah
we'll put down our whistle
places.
We gotta go if he plays abridge stone.
Speaker 4 (54:46):
We'll be there, dude,
we'll be, in the crowd cheering
you on.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
We'll be there.
so all right, man.
Well, before we let you go, doyou mind playing us one, playing
one out for Yeah man, i mean,you can play whatever you want.
If you want play, play thenewer one coming up or an older
one, it's whatever you choose,man.
Speaker 4 (55:10):
I'll probably just
play some good old man for you.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Hell yeah, dude, i
appreciate that.
I'll give you a statement.
Speaker 4 (55:17):
Yeah, you got that
all right.
Speaker 1 (55:20):
Yeah, yeah, we're
good.
Speaker 6 (55:26):
Cleaning up damn
dirty words that I say these
days.
Showing up church a lot more onsong, working on bad habit
breaking, coming back onCopenhagen, little ask, a little
more, breaking my Chevrolet,whatever it takes, cuz I gotta
(55:50):
get from God sitting in the backseat And I'm gonna need to be a
little better if he's gonnawant to be like me.
I'm just a good Boy trying tobe a good old man.
How do you learn it on the fly?
Trying to do the best I can Toraise him up right.
(56:13):
No, sir, yes man, good on boytrying to be good on me.
Yes, i am Gonna be a lot oflearning in between the missus
on that doorframe, and I don'tknow a lot about a lot.
(56:37):
But I know I can teach him afew things How to swim out of
fish, how to drive a stage, justlike my daddy taught me, and
he'll know how to say he saw Tosell me that for me.
Yeah, i'm just a good old boytrying to be a good old man.
(56:57):
How do you learn it on the fly?
Trying to do the best I can Toraise him up right.
Lord knows I am That's a goodold boy trying to be a good old
man?
Oh, i'm trying.
No, i'm trying.
Oh, i'm trying.
Oh, i'm trying.
(57:17):
No, i'm trying to be a good oldman.
I'm trying, i'm trying, oh, i'mtrying, i'm trying, kill me,
making a man out of him, justmaking a man out of me, making a
man out of him, so un-daily.
(57:38):
Another good old boy?
Yeah, just a good old boyTrying to be a good old man.
How'd he learn it?
on the fly, trying to do thebest I can Raising my bride.
Lord knows, i am A good old boyTrying to be a good old man.
(58:06):
Oh, i'm trying.
Oh, i'm trying.
Oh, i'm trying.
Oh, i'm trying to be a good oldman.
Good old man Trying to, i'mtrying, oh, i'm trying.
Oh, i'm trying to be a good oldman.
Speaker 3 (58:19):
Appreciate y'all That
was fantastic, that was awesome
man.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
Love that, Love that,
love that, love that man, do
you have any plans coming up toChicago-Milwaukee?
Are you anytime soon?
Not yet.
Speaker 4 (58:32):
Yeah, yeah, dude, I
got somewhere in Chicago Coming
up soon.
Cool.
I just don't, can't think ofthe days.
I think it's coming up realsoon.
Actually, I think it might belike two weeks.
Speaker 1 (58:41):
I'll have to keep an
eye on it.
Speaker 4 (58:43):
Well, look at your
schedule and check it out, man,
for sure I know I got, I know Igot July, the here just hold on
one second, Just stay put.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
I'm gonna say we
gotta go out and check you out
sometime soon.
Speaker 4 (58:54):
I got it right here.
It's supposed to have it righthere.
Well, maybe not, so here it is.
Here it is here it is.
I got it, got it, got it.
Alright, so I got, i got Ohio,we're all.
(59:19):
We're all.
What'd you say?
Speaker 1 (59:20):
Yeah, chicago or
Milwaukee anywhere, Or Wisconsin
, illinois, anything like thatcoming up.
Speaker 4 (59:26):
I got Chicago on the
Windy City smokeout.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
That's where it.
Is okay, nice dude, july 14thyeah, nice, alright that's a two
, that's a little.
Speaker 4 (59:33):
I got Carthage,
Illinois, I don't know where.
That is where we got the legacy.
I got a little headline giggerthere at the Legacy Theater.
Speaker 1 (59:41):
How'd they check that
out?
I don't know where, carthage.
I know Carthage college, that'sclose to the house.
But, dude, yeah, windy City's abadass dude, you're gonna love
that place.
It's like in the United Centerparking lot.
It's hot as hell, but you'llenjoy it.
They pick like a lot.
They pick the hottest weekendof the year every year.
Speaker 3 (59:59):
So But yeah it's
always a good fast.
Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
It's the same guy
that runs Joe's, that runs Windy
City And dude Ed is justphenomenal in Chicago.
He's a legend here and whathe's done for the city and for
country music Just amazing.
Oh for sure, Dude, thank you somuch for spending a little bit
of time with us, a lot of timeactually with us tonight, and
thank you so much for actuallyFor the show.
Dude, it's been a long timecoming.
(01:00:23):
I really appreciate this.
Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
It's been a great
talk with you.
Sorry, sorry, it took me solong to get with Joe Goddard.
Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
No you're busy, we
got it.
Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
I appreciate you all.
Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
I'm glad we wait.
Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
I think we got a good
show today.
We had a hell of a show.
Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
We had to sit down
and talk for a little bit.
We got to talk a lot about alot of cool things.
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
And we're so happy.
You're so busy.
That's great.
Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Busy is good Yeah
hell yeah, we don't mind that.
Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
Anything y'all need
from me.
So y'all hit me back up.
Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
We'll hit you up
sometime, man for sure.
Yeah, next time you get aheadline gig or anything, if you
ever need somebody to come outand take some photos or
something, let me know, holler.
So all right homie.
Dude, let me know, dude, I loveit.
Like I said, i just got toshoot Luke Holmes a couple weeks
ago.
We almost had Taylor last night, but we got review tickets for
Taylor instead of photos.
But we were trying to get somephoto passes for Taylor, cause
(01:01:07):
that would be killer.
Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
It'll come.
Man, that's the biggest of thebig, though I know we got to
wait for that one.
We're trying, we're trying.
Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
We got our toes in
last night, so we were happy.
Now let's get the foot in.
All right, buddy.
Well, thank you so much.
You have a great night.
Stay busy, dude.
We'll catch up on the roadsometime.
Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
All right man.
Thank y'all so much, God bless.
Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Thank you, glad we
waited to have a good show
tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
That was great.
He was so great.
He was so great.
I loved it.
We touched on a lot of coolsubjects I had to ask him about
the whole like through thatmoment.
Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
When you're a dad and
you're going through that first
C-section And you're likeyou're gonna put scrubs on,
You're gonna throw it in.
I know you got your own littlething going too, But like it's
scary, dude, It was very scary.
Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
That's why I wanted
to see what Your first time
being a dad.
Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
I wanted to see his
outcome on it too, and see how
it kind of was going.
It was probably going to be theexact same name.
I went through because theemotions are all over.
But then he gets thrown in andyou're getting Sonka by Ford.
It's shorter than like 10minutes before all this.
Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
It's like damn dude
Talk about craziness and one day
, yeah right, it reminds me ofDrew Parker.
Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Same thing happened
to Drew Parker.
He finally had a number one andbaby.
I think the same exact day.
Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
I love those stories
because I really feel like that
stuff is destined to happen.
Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
It's just meant to
happen for good people.
It's karma.
Good people Exactly.
So, yeah, that was a lot of funguys.
Thank you guys for tuning infor that one.
But hey, we always talk aboutDo we want to do a podcast
question Or do we just want totalk about the weekend.
We should start with theweekend?
Yeah, because the podcastquestions was like We have any
pre-show rituals?
Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
yeah, You have to
fill up my giant jug of water.
I fill up a nice pitcher of icewater.
Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
That's our pre-show
ritual.
Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
I turn off the heat.
Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
We heat our air.
Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
We hold our children
not to flush the toilet, to
flush the toilet.
Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Yes, So we do have
some pre-show rituals.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
We strategically
place them in quiet corners of
the house, so they're nothappening.
Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
They know for the
next hour.
Mom and dad's going downstairs.
Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
We need the house to
be quiet.
We keep your feet on carpet.
Yeah, so we have some pre-showrituals.
Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
But no, it was pretty
cool, like we were just kind of
talking with Drew a little bit.
So we've been doing The wholewebsite media thing for a little
bit now.
We love doing it.
We hope they end up As much aswe can.
It's a lot of fun.
We want to spread out a littlebit more Trying to grow.
We decided to reach out and seeif we could cover Taylor Swift
in Chicago.
We're like, hey, what are theygoing to say?
No, right, yeah, i mean that'swhat everybody says.
(01:03:38):
You got to try and see what youcan do And I put in for a photo
pass to see what happens.
And we ended up getting tworeview tickets And we got to go
last night to see the Ares tour,which was amazing, jillian
unfortunately Unfortunately.
For me?
no, she got to go two timesthis weekend Twice, two out of
the three.
She got to go Friday night andHave a little sweet, even a
(01:03:59):
little dessert cart Probably.
Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Unlimited food and
Desserts.
And.
You got the aerial view, andwhat was cool, though, for me is
I got two completely differentperspectives, so I was in the
box so I got to see Overall thecrowd And the stage And the
whole Active of the entire Event, you know.
(01:04:23):
And then last night we were Onthe floor.
Completely different Experience.
Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
I feel like We're
like Love and Rose dead center
And it was awesome to see Theshow was so great.
But it was cool Because at onepoint it looked like it was
snowing.
I don't remember this fromFriday night, i'm sure.
Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
It happened Friday
night.
I wasn't in it, I was in themiddle of it.
You can get those differentexperiences.
Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
No matter where you
are in that crowd.
I love about stadium shows, butI love about Taylor Swift shows
, and she's been doing that eversince We've been seeing her for
13 years, i think we weretalking about it.
So Jillian and I planned ourwedding Coming home from a
Taylor Swift concert one time.
Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
That is true.
Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Her and Kelly Bickler
.
I'll never forget that I tookmy dad to a Taylor Swift concert
one time And she comes outright down the aisle We're
sitting in, puts a microphoneRight next to my dad's seat And
starts singing.
I forgot what Sonnel was.
Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
I looked like a bunch
of creepy men.
Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Hey, you were
supposed to go, then I had last
minute.
Hey dad, you want to go seeTaylor?
I was working Just when she'sin small arenas.
The show was phenomenal.
If you could grab a ticket Andgo, i highly suggest getting it.
I know people are whatever.
I mean.
They love Taylor.
Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
They hate Taylor.
I shouldn't say you love her,or?
Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
hate her, Dude she is
.
Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
You can't deny the
level of professionalism And the
work that goes into that.
It's not a concert, it's afreaking production.
It's a high scale production,Everything I mean.
She blew me away last night Andyou can't deny her fans.
Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Dude, it's like a
cult.
A level of dedication It's likea freaking cult dude.
Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
It was incredible I
mean in a good way Like people
were Dressed to the nines Intheir sequins.
Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
And their ball gowns.
Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Dressed to the nines.
You stole that line from myreview.
Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Which we'll be coming
out later on the website.
Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
But I mean, i've
never seen so much glitter and
sequins In my entire life And itwas incredible to see People.
Nobody left their seats.
Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
I mean There was we
didn't even leave our seats.
Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
I didn't sit down.
Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
I said, i said for
the whole damn thing People
never sat down.
Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
People, it was.
I mean, people are just.
They sing every single word,every single song song, i mean.
The girl in next to me wasawesome.
She was there with her mom.
Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Well, the girl next
to me was there with her mom.
Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
It was all moms and
daughters or sisters or aunts
and nieces and Um.
Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
I was like one in a
hundred dudes.
I'm about yeah, but it.
Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
I mean just, it was
just incredible the The
dedication that her fans haveand the support that they have
for her.
Like you can't whether you loveher, you don't, it doesn't
matter.
You can't deny the dedicationthat they have 45 songs.
Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Three and a half
hours Well, three hours and 20
minutes.
45 songs.
Yeah, that's an Eric church set.
Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
That's incredible
used to be, and she and she
performed That whole time.
Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Covered that whole
stage.
Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
Oh, half of football
field at least was the length of
the stage.
It was incredible.
Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
She has about three
nights a week Each city friday,
saturday, sunday.
Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
I can't even imagine
I was tired walking to the stage
.
Which by the way was kind of anightmare leaving the concert,
which we kind of anticipated,though It was like hurting
cattle.
Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
It's how chicago
concert is, Oh it was awful.
Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
We walked almost or
probably a little over a mile.
Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Yeah, we kind of mr
Tranquil, we mr Tranquil.
Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
So we got our steps
in, but it was.
It was worth it.
It was a ton of fun.
We're exhausted today, but um,well worth it and super grateful
to to her team for letting usCover the show.
I mean, like we said, it wasone of the biggest shows we've
been able to cover so far andthe biggest We're super grateful
and hopefully.
Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Who's our next
biggest after her?
Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
We did Luke brian.
Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Yeah, look, brian,
jason isable jason is bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Look, brian.
Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Um yeah those are
good, but you know, whatever,
we're just super.
Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
I mean super humble,
super grateful, and it was a ton
of fun.
So Why are you smiling?
I?
Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
heard something in my
ears I was like who is that?
Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Did you hear that?
You heard voices.
I heard another voice.
Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
So totally off
subject.
And before we wrap up, anAaron's hearing voices.
Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
Y'all please send
help.
Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
I know there's
rambling right now, but um
october I totally have an ideafor a show After our talk with
jr Green and I.
we gotta do like a.
Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
I know.
I will the more and more likeremember how you wanted to do
like a singer-songwriter, goshow.
Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Yeah, dude, i told
you, I still think it would be
amazing.
I told you, you just gotta getsomebody to pick it up.
So if you guys don't know myother life not my other life a
few years ago I used to do a lotof paranormal stuff, which I
love.
I actually got the itch againand I talked with drew, just, it
was amazing stuff.
Uh, this is fun, man, like Idid it from one for the
adrenaline rush.
I mean jillian.
(01:09:25):
Not the adrenaline rush within10 minutes, though, and I had a
theater.
She's like nope, i'm out.
Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
I'm going.
I did so.
I support all of your hobbies.
I will immerse myself in yourhobbies, except for that one.
Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
I got no desire you,
you still dabbled, you were
there I sold merch and.
I, you slept in that hotel inIndiana.
Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
I did do that.
Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
That's our very last
event We had to.
Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
I did do that for
that as well, That's You know.
Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
I think, i think we
should have a ghost stories show
and bring on like Differentsinger-songwriters to tell their
favorite ghost stories.
That tells like a personalexperience I loved.
I'd love to hear some kitmores.
Okay, he talked a little bitwhen he's on bobby bones, but he
did a bobby cast with bobbybones a couple years back.
If you guys never heard it, yougotta go listen to it.
It's kitmore and bobby bones tosit down talking amazing,
(01:10:15):
amazing podcast.
But uh, they talk about thathouse and the attic of that
house and kitmore tells us acouple of ghost stories And I've
heard a few other things fromother songwriters about that
same place.
I'm like damn awesome.
So, all right, y'all, we, we'rerunning way over tonight, but
we, we had a blast because wehaven't done this in a few weeks
and If you're gonna see, we'regonna be like shotgun the next
(01:10:36):
like three or four weeks, uh.
So we got to make up what I say10 shows before july 9th.
So it's like in about fiveweeks We gotta make up 10 shows.
So we're gonna try to double uptwo shows a week.
Um, for the next couple weeksWe'll see what happens.
So that brings us to tomorrownight.
Tomorrow night We were gonnahave an amazing show and it's
actually probably one of myfirst full circle shows.
(01:10:58):
Maybe no, luis.
I guess luis for me will havebeen full circle show.
Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
But Yeah, jacob did.
We have Jacob on the show.
Mm-hmm Well, 11 years ago wouldbe full circle for my 30th
birthday.
Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
I was supposed to
have, i think, a 13 year old, 12
I don't know how old he was,maybe 14 year old kid come and
play and open up for luis brisonand um.
Jacob's evil and Somethinghappened.
His dad wouldn't let him comeum, probably because it was a
party with alcohol and rockbands and far away from home far
away from home, everything else.
(01:11:31):
But then a year or two later Hewas on doing some shows in
canoesha in chicago Same guy andwe actually opened up our home
and put him up for the night andfed him.
I still have a like i was Elvis, i think it was poster signed
to me and you both, um, i stillhave like 10 demo CDs and the
guy's name is graylin james Andhe's gonna be on the show
tomorrow night.
So it's really cool to be allconnected with graylin and talk
(01:11:52):
to him over the last 10, 12years of what he's been doing
and what he's been up to and,man, his story is gonna be
phenomenal tomorrow night, guys.
So please tune in tomorrownight another amazing show and
we cannot wait to see you guysthen.
So thank you guys, see youtomorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
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