Kyle Austin | Singer/Songwriter - Melodies N' Memories: Music Media

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Speaker 1 (02:01):
I love it.
It sounds good.
I just see you using the chattonight.
JC is watching and on.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Hey JC, I stole your job.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
It used to be right in your seat for the longest
time, so that's pretty cool.
Thanks for hanging out with usfor a little bit tonight, man.
It's good seeing you all aswell, so we definitely miss you.
But hey, look who forgot toturn off her cell phone.
She's putting on a rookie moveover here too already.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
I have never done that I know right.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
So you got a little guy over there too that wants to
talk to you.
I think, okay, all right, guys,we'll take her off from it.
But hey, i am very excitedWe're going to bring on Science
Guest.
We waited a little bit to havehim on.
I met Kyle a couple of yearsago.
It's been a while, but I'm likedude.
I want to see how he developsbecause he's a badass dude, like
the minute I first heard him.
Our friend, hunter Thomas Mouse, introduced me to him a little

(02:50):
while back And I was like dude,this voice is something
different.
The song writing is somethingdifferent.
I'm so excited to have him on.
So tonight we are going towelcome on Kyle Austin for
episode 168, a Kansas nativewith a passion for traditional
country music passed down fromhis grandfather Growing up, kyle
found his escape in themelodies of country music greats
And literally know that musicwould soon become his career in
lifelong passion.
For Kyle, music is not justabout performing and making a

(03:13):
living, but rather a way of lifethat you define who he is today
.
It's in his blood, it's in hissoul and it's in the stories he
tells for his lyrics.
We are going to discuss themelodies and memories that make
up his journey.
We're going to welcome Kyle on,kyle.
Can you hear me, kyle?
I think you're muted, still onthe board, so you got to give me
a minute.
She ran upstairs.

(03:34):
All right, buddy, can we hearyou?

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Can you hear me All?
right, there you are.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Awesome, so yeah.
So we had a little unexpectedvisitor down here and she only
had her upstairs and she leftthe board unattended.
Look at that Rookie movetonight, buddy.
Welcome man.
I'm so excited to finally haveyou.
I know you've been travelingand I'm glad you were able to
make it home tonight.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
By the skin of my teeth.
man, Where are you?
coming in from New Jersey.
There was a barefoot countrymusic festival up there.
Nice.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Me and a buddy went up there and we played like
riders around and stuffsurrounding the I think I saw a
couple of people that are upthere that was just attending it
and stuff.
It looked pretty cool.
Man, definitely.
Hell.
Yeah, dude, fresh off the planegetting ready for a nice little
fun night tonight.
So I'm excited.
Yeah, so first thing, learningfrom you, i never knew you were
from Kansas And that was awesomebecause we've had Hunter on,

(04:32):
we've had Travis Marvin on, iforgot who else?
I did not know Kansas was sorich in the music world like
that.
Like we're having so manypeople now that I'm kind of
forming a circle.
Tell me how it was growing upin Kansas, man, kind of like who
the influences were, kind ofyour first musical memory, all
that stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Sure.
So yeah, we had music all thetime in my family.
My grandpa wrote songs, playedguitar and used in a band with
his wife, my grandmother.
She was the drummer, and it'sactually because he was supposed
to go play a show But a weekbefore the drummer the drummer

(05:15):
bowed out so he couldn't do it.
So he told his wife that sheneeded to learn how to play
drums.
So she learned how to playdrums and they sang and played
drums together.
But yeah, we grew up with musicall the time.
Everybody in my family sings orplays an instrument or does
anything.
If we had family dinners allthe time and we all sat around

(05:37):
the dinner table at my grandpa'shouse and there's always
guitars being passed around orsongs being sung, Yeah, so It
was in your blood, man frombirth, pretty much.
Yeah, it really was.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
What was it like?
kind of like the music youremember here.
Do you remember like anyspecific artist or anything?
You're like man who was this oranything like that?

Speaker 2 (06:02):
I had this thought the other day because somebody
brought up a song and I was likethat might be one of the first
songs I remember Besides GrendyCounty Auction.
It was oh goodness, why don'tyou kiss, kiss this?

Speaker 1 (06:22):
I still can't remember who it was Aaron Tippin
, that might have been the first, like I think it's Aaron Tippin
.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
I think it's Aaron Tippin.
Yeah, that was Aaron Tippin.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, that's right, aaron Tippin.
Yeah.
Yeah, Keith Whitley as well.
We had a CD changer and the Ithink a Keith Whitley CD was
stuck inside it that we couldn'tget out, so it was played all
the time.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
All right, all right, cool man.
Do you remember your firstconcert experience, man?
the first person you ever sawlive that you actually remember
taking anything away from?

Speaker 2 (06:54):
The first concert I ever went to was actually a rock
concert.
My brother was a big rock guyand he's my older brother, so
you know you always want to be.
You know your older brother,he's the coolest person in the
world.
So we went to a I think it was.
Their name is Red.
Okay, it's kind of like.

(07:15):
Have you heard of BreakingBenjamin?

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, it's like they're in the same realm.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Okay, no, i see Yeah, where was it?

Speaker 2 (07:22):
at.
It was in Dodge City.
We don't have a lot of concertvenues back there.
I feel like it's better nowthan it was back then, But yeah,
it was in Dodge City, which islike an hour hour and a half
away from my house.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
What part of Kansas did you grow up in?

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Southwestern, we're Southwestern Kansas.
we're real close to theOklahoma border and real close
to the Colorado border.
I always tell people this we'reso close to the Colorado border
that when our bars shut down at1.30, we'd have somebody drive
us over to the one, to the nexttown over, because it was on
mountain time That works out.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
That's awesome, nice dude.
Yeah, it was awesome justmeeting so many people now from
Kansas and be like because, likeyou know, we hear of like your
different areas that are likereally rich in music and muscle
shoals and stuff like that.
But, dude, kansas is in NorthCarolina is another one, but
Kansas is brewing some musiciansout there.
I'm telling you because we'vehad a couple.
like I said, travis and Hunterhad been awesome.

(08:20):
There was one guy that Iremember seeing in the Power
Light District.
he was a firefighter, noe Palma, i think it was Amur.
Yes, we know that guy or not,but he was another one.
I remember like I gotta havehim on the show sometime.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, yeah, he's great, It's wild man.
I've met a lot of people outhere in Nashville that are from
Kansas and it's so funny how weall flock to each other, because
I feel like you know,especially in Nashville,
somebody's like, oh yeah, thisperson's from North Carolina Oh
cool, that's great.
And then it's like somebodyelse is from North Carolina.

(08:51):
They're it's like almost thesame reaction, like oh cool,
that's cool.
And then it's like somebody'sfrom Kansas, it's like I gotta
meet this guy.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yeah, i feel that.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Ashley Ray.
She was another one.
She's a songwriter in Nashville.
That's from Kansas.
She's a big J-Hawk fan.
You know who she is at all,ashley Ray.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
I think I've met her at Live Oak once and we were
both like hey, i heard you fromKansas.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, this is my role .

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, dude, she's a hell of a songwriter One of my
favorites there in Nashville,but, dude, definitely so.
We talked a little bit aboutyour whole family was playing,
but mainly your grandfather.
I was kind of reading a littlebit about them.
My grandfather was someone thatI leaned on a lot, but he was
one of your biggest influenceswith music.
Dude, tell me a little bitabout when you started playing.
He used to bring you to nursinghomes.
Tell me a little about this.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah.
So we would do two things.
We play once a week.
So, first off, he got me a.
I got, i got a guitar for my10th birthday from my parents.
It was a first act.
It had like an amplifier builtinto it.
It was.
You know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Is that the one with the colors on the fretboard that
you knew where to put yourfingers out?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, it has to be something like that.
But I got that and my grandpawas really traditional country,
like you know.
he was like you know, we can't.
we can't play Garth Brooksbecause that's rock and roll now
, son.
So but yeah, he didn't.
I don't think he liked that.
I got an electric guitar withan amp built into it.

(10:21):
So he got me an acoustic guitarthat he he gave me acoustic
guitar and a pillow sack.
He was like all right, youcarry that guitar around on that
pillow sack And you know, if itdoesn't get damaged we'll get
you a nice one, we'll get you anew one.
And yeah, we never did.
I played that forever Awesome.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
But we, yeah, every Wednesday we'd go play a
different nursing home in thearea within like an hour and a
half or so.
We just go play traditionalcountry music for those folks
for like two, three hours.
And then we also did a as apart of this thing called Kansas
Old Time Fiddlers, pickers andSingers And it's this.

(11:04):
I think they're called charters, but like there's certain
groups throughout Kansas andevery second Sunday of every
month we would host this thingin our like event building.
I don't know what it's called,but you know it'd be like a
potluck.
You'd have to sign up and paylike a fee just to keep the

(11:25):
thing running.
It was like a real small fee.
It's probably like $10 a monthor something like that.
But yeah, we do that everysecond Sunday and it would be
just as big jam session where awhole bunch of people that were
a part of Kansas Old TimeFiddlers, pickers and Singers
would show up and play And thenwe'd use take turns singing and
playing on each other's songsand it was just a big jam

(11:47):
session.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
So, yeah, that's awesome man.
So he was also a songwriter too.
Is that the first kind of tasteyou got in with songwriting too
, Or when did songwriting reallycome Cause, dude, that's
something that I honestly was soimpressed with when I first met
you as your songwriter.
It was just, yeah, your lyricswere just unreal, just
unrealized world, and I wasblown away.
So where did it start?
Did it start with yourgrandfather, or where?

Speaker 2 (12:08):
did your start.
Yeah, yeah, he pushed a lot ofhimself musically.
He wanted me to kind of followin his footsteps.
So you know we'd play.
he'd show me like songs and belike this is country, and then
he would show me like a songthat I thought sound similar to

(12:31):
be like this is rock and roll.
Okay, but he wrote songs and hewas a great songwriter And I
was always so impressed with.
You know, we'd go play theseshows and people would come up
and they'd request a song.
And they'd go up to him andthey'd request like one of his

(12:52):
songs.
They'd be like do that song, ilove that song.
And I was like I want, like Ilove that.
I love that they want to hearhis music.
I was like I want somebody towant to hear my music, and so he
, we would sit down, we try andwrite some stuff together, or
you know, back then I was like13.
So I was like He was like whatyou know, like, let's write a

(13:14):
song.
What kind of song do you wantto write And be like?
you know about this girl fromclass that I see, better Locker,
and you know, like I said, he'sall about like traditional
country music.
He's like.
OK, I think we can work withthat maybe.
So you know, I probably end upwriting those ones on my own,
But yeah, So I just loved thathe, people, people always

(13:38):
requested his music and it wasmore than one song and they
wanted to hear it all the timeAnd that that really inspired me
to.
I really like I grabbed aholdof that, like I loved that.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Oh man, was there any song errors that you looked up
to?
Did you kind of used to get thelittle CD books or the set
books and look to see who wrotesongs and everything else, any
names that kept popping up foryou?

Speaker 2 (14:03):
I didn't.
It's weird, it's real weird.
I always use this excuse, or Ihave at least for this.
Last week I was in New Jerseyand every time somebody would
ask me a question that I didn'tknow the answer to like.
Somebody was like hey, do youlike shrimp for seafood?
And I was like I'm from Kansas,like we don't have oceans, so

(14:24):
that I think that's my going tobe.
My answer for this too is likeThere was just there wasn't like
a lot, like there wasn't likemusic stores or you know, like
all you could really get CD wisewas from, was from like Walmart
And that was it, and that was30 miles away in a different
town And so, yeah, we didn'tnecessarily listen to.

(14:50):
I think my thought process backwhen I was that young was these
people that are singing thesesongs wrote these songs.
I didn't realize until waylater that That's not the case.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
I thought I felt too grown up man.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
It was until I thought.
That's what I always thought.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, until I got into high school and started
looking.
And then I always I had thecassettes because I was, of
course.
I went to high school in thenineties but I had the cassettes
out and I was looking and allof a sudden, in parentheses,
wherever I read the title of thesong was these other names.
I'm like, who are these otherpeople?
And we don't really have theinternet to Google that and
stuff.
But I found later found outthose are songwriter names, like
oh, who's a songwriter?
What's a songwriter?
I just thought, whoever the,the band was, if it says

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Metallica, it was Metallica thatwas writing all the songs or
whatever, right, this, whatever,so I never knew there was other
parties.
So it was kind of cool, likekind of learning about that And
I like that kind of how yourgrandfather was a writer and
that you finally got intowriting with him.
Now, when you write to, even tothis day, do you prefer
co-writes?
Are you rather write byyourself?
Does it just depend on the songor the mood?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
It depends on the song and the mood.
Usually, if I, if I, if I comeup with a lyric or like a melody
or a hook or even just a songtitle, that as soon as I think
of it I have like, oh, thisshould go right before it and
that'll make it make sense, iusually either start building a

(16:10):
song there on accident and I'mlike I have a chorus, i got to
write this out now, and then Iwrite the song, or I come up
with an idea like a song titleor lyric or something like that,
and I I write that in my notes,as most national writers do.
And then if, if, if thatdoesn't really happen, i'll
either take it to people and seeif they're like, oh, that's a

(16:33):
good idea, we should dosomething with that.
And if they don't like it, icome back and I try and flush
out how to make it work, becauseI really think it's a good idea
.
And then I'll write like achorus or I'll, you know, i'll
find a way to better present myidea than just like two words,
you know, and then I'll show upwith that And, you know, since I
have a fully fledged chorus, assoon as I pitch it to you know

(16:56):
other other writers if they likeit.
That's when I'm like okay that,there we go.
That's what we needed was justthe jumpstart.
So sometimes I'll like halfwrite a song before I come in,
or sometimes I'll I'll justwrite it by myself on accident
in like 15 minutes or I don'tknow I'm I'm still figuring out
the co-writing thing, because Ididn't do it a lot for a long

(17:18):
time, like I did it like a fewtimes with my grandpa and we
never really came up with much.
And then I've written by myselfsince then, until I moved to
Nashville.
I was like, oh yeah, we can allwrite, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
So did you meet?
I know I met you through ahundred.
Did you meet Hunter once yougot to Nashville or did you meet
him in Kansas first?

Speaker 2 (17:37):
So before I moved we were both in goodness Lake of
the Ozarks, missouri, okay, andhe was there for some like
bachelor party and I was therebecause I was opening up for
this band at a place calledCaptain Ron's down there And I
got up and played, i got done.
Next band was playing.

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I was sitting there and Iwatched Hunter walk up to this
guy and I didn't really knowwhat was going on.
But they both took off theirshirts and uh, and then swapped
And then he put on the shirt andhe like turned and started to
come to the bar and I saw it wasa bushlight shirt And I love
bushlight, i talk about it allthe time.

(18:18):
But uh, i was like, dude,congratulations on the upgrade,
like whatever shirt that was,congratulations on, you know,
going home with that, with abushlight shirt.
He did well, he thought it wasfunny.
And then we talked a little bitand, uh, i told him I was you
know, i played before and he waslike, oh, do you write music or
have anything else?

(18:38):
I said yes, he's like I'mactually from Nashville.
I was like, oh, that's wild.
So we looked each other up andthen, on our separate ways home,
we each listened to eachother's albums and then
immediately we're like dude, ilove your music.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Oh that's cool, that's cool.
And we never, we just I wasalways curious to make you guys.
You guys honestly clicktogether and honestly you guys
put I know you just put a songout together Also, but ever
since I've seen you guystogether in like the same rounds
and everything else, you guyshave always clicked.
I love that.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Oh, yeah, We're just uh, we're silly idiots.
I tell people all the time likewe click really well with the
dad jokes and um, just trying tomake people laugh all the time
and our music styles are verysimilar.
So, yeah, it's uh, Hunter'sbecoming one of my best friends
down here And, um, yeah, I'mgrateful to have met him because
he's got me a lot of doors andintroduced me to a lot of people

(19:30):
and showed me around and it'sbeen great.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Oh yeah, dude, you get.
I guess he gets bounce off wall, and so do you have any else in
your songwriting circle, or doyou have any dream code rights
that you kind of would like tohave?

Speaker 2 (19:42):
I don't know, man, i'm, i'm so, so I've only been
in Nashville.
I'm coming up on two years inAugust.
Yeah, and I, uh, i, i'm stillfiguring out who's who and um,
you know even the co-writingscene.
Like, i have my groups and Itry and branch out, but I don't

(20:03):
know writers very well, or Idon't.
I'm too afraid, you know, to belike Hey, do you want to write?
It's just because I, you know Ihaven't done it that much, but,
um, yeah, i, i love the guys Iwrite with.
I'd like to do, i'd like to getlike a Kansas group, maybe this

(20:23):
is.
I came up with this on the spot.
So, uh, like a group of Kansaswriters and they do like a
writers retreat And I think soI've seen somebody do that.
I think I've seen somebody dothat, like from Kansas do that
already.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
So this is Ron, so I'm writing stuff for writers
retreats.
So for people that don't knowwhat that is, i think it's
phenomenal.
It's where a group of writerswould go.
They just kind of try to turnoff the cell phones, lock
themselves away and see whatthey come up with, spend a
couple of days out in the woods,whatever.
Uh, how many of you have beenon it?
You've, or what's been yourfavorite one?
you've actually been on or done?

Speaker 2 (20:56):
I have not been on a writers retreat yet Really.
Uh, I've gone to Key WestFlorida.
I don't think that counts.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
We done there for writers, uh, for songwriters
fest Yeah.
Nice dude, nice.
Well, we're gonna have to getyou on a writers retreat
sometime then, for sure.
Oh yeah, because honestlythat's where I've shared some of
the greatest songs have camefrom, and everything, cause you
guys just honestly have nothingelse to do.
And who do we talk to?
Adam Hambrick?
We talked to him.
He was on one where he came outand was on his own and wrote

(21:25):
this incredible song.
I'm like dude, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
I've heard a really cool story that got me
interested in them, where theydid a writer's retreat and they
were all um challenged to writea song but use a cartoon
character's name in the chorusor in the hook.
And then there it was like achallenge to see if you could
come up with the best song, andI was like that sounds awesome.
That's cool Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
That'd be awesome.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
So I know we're jumping around, but I want to
throw it back a little bit.
Back to high school, did yourbrother you talked about older
brothers and drummer.
You guys moved out to LawrenceKansas to go to KU.
Tell me what brought you from,cause you're growing up.
Your grandfather taught you thecountry, but now you're in a
pop punk band.
Tell me how you went fromcountry to pop punk And then,
honestly, how did you go back toyour roots, from being a hard

(22:13):
punk or band?

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, it was.
Uh, it was just like I said,like my first concert that I
ever went to was a rock concert.
And you know I always looked upto my brother and um thought he
was the coolest person in theworld And he loved that music,
cause he was a drummer andcountry's not really that fun
Traditional country is notreally that fun for a drummer So
, uh, he, uh he kind of fellinto the trap.

(22:37):
He kind of fell into that stuffAnd um, i was like trying to
tag along with him on hismusical journey And uh, we both
kind of came across some poppunk bands that their lyrics
were really interesting.
You could hear.
You know a lot of people'scomplaints about like metal and
stuff is you can't understandwhat they're saying, but um,

(22:59):
like it was really great vocals,um, like interesting melodies.
The guitars, like there wasjust so much going on.
The drums were crazy and soartistic, but the guitars were
also like fighting each otherwith, uh, with like licks and
but it sounded so good mashed upall together.

(23:21):
We just we both fell in lovewith it and we, uh we wanted to
give that a shot.
So we tried to um do a thingout there and uh, lawrence,
kansas, what we're in college,and we just played like local
bars and wrote songs and uh didthat.
But then I grew up playingcountry music and I always loved

(23:41):
country music and like it wasuh nagging at me that I wasn't
doing something with that.
And it's hard to go from, youknow, like, grow up doing
something and then leave thatand be like, why did I spend all
that time doing that If I'm notgoing to use it?
And so, um, i just I had thisfeeling.

(24:04):
I was like I need to go back towhere I started, because that's
what I learned, that's how,that's what I know.
And, um, i it was even in themiddle of doing, you know, pop
punk shows and writing songswith pop punk.
I was just I sat down and Istarted trying to try and write
country songs and wrote somestuff that I loved.
And I went back to like someEric church albums and I was

(24:26):
like I love these stuff, whydon't I listen to these more?
And so, yeah, i just fell, fellback into it.
And then, uh, everybody splitup and uh, graduated and went
off and did their jobs and moveback to my hometown or you know
whatever.
And so I was one of the onlyones left, um, and I tried to

(24:50):
get in playing like some barsand stuff, but I wasn't really
good at like finding where toplay or marketing myself very
well So it seems like even whenyou went and started playing a
pop punk, you didn't stray farfrom the singer songwriter type
aspect of things, because youstill were talking with the
lyrics and everything else.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
So it sounds like that's something that's always
talked to you.
It's funny cause, like onTikTok, they have these trends
now where they're slowing down,like Jimmy E world, the middle
and stuff, and you hear theselike pop punk songs that I grew
up with.
I'm like, oh shit, these lyricsare really dark.
We're deep.
Back then It's like it's crazybecause they are.
I mean, you saw these songsdown and started listening to
the lyrics.
They could be country songs AndI don't know what people talk
about.
Like the equals man They were.

(25:28):
They were considered rock forthe longest time, but those have
been country music songs thatthey've been playing for years,
i feel.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, i saw Muscadine bloodline.
They are doing Adam's song, ithink, by Blink 182.
And they did it as a like athing on TikTok, as a joke, and
then like they slowed it downand did the whole thing Like
made it country and everybody'slike.
Oh, my God, i love this, andnow they're putting it out Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
That's cool And that's man.
it's crazy how things happenlike that, man.
So so, after you came back, isthat when you started getting
into this construction work?
was that after the whole, aftercollege?

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah, everybody left And I was trying to figure out
what I was going to do with mylife because, you know, up until
then every show I played waseither at a nursing home for
free or at my in my hometown, atthat event venue for free or at
some college town bar where Igot paid in a shot of Jim Beam
in a PBR.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Mm, hmm.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
You know.
so I just I was like I don'tthink I can make money doing
this.
So I went into construction.
I started to learn that I wasreally good at it and did that
for a couple of years,apprentice for a while, and then
I started my own company outthere Nice man.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
So I heard it didn't end too too great man.
Well, what happened?
You had a little bit ofaccident and that kind of forced
you back into the music in away.
right, was that kind of aturning point in your career, do
you think?

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Oh, it absolutely was .
It was a.
It was terrible at the time,obviously, but at the same time
I'm so grateful it happened,because it it it was almost a
wake up call, i would.
I would say a wake up call, butit was more like I was.
I was trying to figure out whoI am and you know what I, what I

(27:25):
wanted to do.
Uh, i was on my way to a, a, aproject I always want to say a
show or a gig now but I'm on myway to a project And, um, it was
raining and my trailerhydroplane on the highway and
pulled me off the highway and Iwrecked and I broke my spine in

(27:47):
two places.
But yeah, i was on bed rest fora while.
I went and lived back in myhometown with my brother and, um
, i really like I couldn't doanything, i was just like laying
in bed.
We set up a TV so I could playvideo games, but you can only do
that for so long before you'relike, what if I don't have my
day?

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
So, um, i picked up a guitar and I downloaded a, um,
i downloaded a DAW or a digitalaudio workstation and I learned
to produce and I learned to, uhlike, make beats, or I just was
like experimenting And then Iwas like you know, i got all

(28:29):
this stuff.
Maybe I should learn some likevideo stuff, like I should post
some videos.
So I started posting videos andpeople were like, oh my gosh,
i'm so glad you did this cover,like that's awesome, i love this
.
I got a bunch of likes andshares and I was like, oh, this
is great, i should do this a lot, a lot more.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Do you think he'd still be doing construction to
this day if that?

Speaker 2 (28:52):
didn't happen, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Okay, that's how I was curious.
I've seen this situation acouple other times And it's
almost like you don't want tosay it was meant to happen,
because like something that,that, like that.
You don't want to say that, butit almost like it was, in a way
, because it had to kind of giveyou like dude music Still here,
like you got it, yeah, i giveit a shot and guess what brought
back out of it.
So it's kind of was then didyou go to Nashville after all

(29:15):
this happened, or when did youfinally make the jump to
Nashville?

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah.
So I in Kansas City I Went andwatched.
My dad told me about this show,these two people in Kansas City
and It's a Barb and RJ Rebel.
They were playing at a placecalled Sinclairs and Blue
Springs And he was like, come on, man, let's just let's go get a
beer, let's watch these twopeople.

(29:39):
I've watched them a bunch oftimes.
They play every Thursday.
Like let's just go check outsome live music.
I was like, okay, let's go.
So I went with him to the showAnd he was good friends with him
and he was like hey, my sonsings and plays guitar can sing.
Like, oh sure, yes, that's great.
So I got up and sang a song andas soon as I got done, the

(30:01):
owner came up and He was likehey, do you want to play next
week?
Like on a Wednesday, i'll giveyou 150 bucks.
Now I was like 150 dollars,what I'm gonna get paid to do
this.
So immediately I said yes andthat's whatever.
Like the wheels started turn.
I was like, okay, i can makemoney.
I can make me doing this.

(30:22):
So I started to try and likemarket myself to places and The
people at Sinclairs that cameand watched me all the time and
all the other venues I've playedthere Like you really need to
check out Nashville.
You need to go to Nashvillebecause I was writing songs and
I put out an album called Outlawand One of those songs I posted

(30:45):
on online.
I posted just the course of itand it was Outlaw.
And somebody from Nashvillefound it and shared it and was
like, oh this.
And Then she messaged me andsaid hey, i'm playing a writer's
round.
Do you want to come?
right, i run this writers round.
Do you want to come play it?

(31:05):
And I was like I don't knowwhat that is.
And she was like oh, it's thething where you get up and sing
songs that you wrote and Youtell the stories about it.
You'll play like three or foursongs that you wrote.
I was like cool.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
That sounds awesome.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Went and where she was.
She was like you know this thisweekend in in Nashville at this
place, and I was like, oh, i'mso far away from that and She's
okay, no worries.
And then I told my dad that andhe was like you gotta go, oh,
oh.
And so we got a playing ticketand Flew out there and I played

(31:42):
the writers round and I metpeople.
Luckily enough, i met a Guydown here's names Mikey, but I
met him on Instagram and then weplayed like some video games No
, frozen with a lot of peopleand he introduced me to people
and while we were hanging out,he was like you have to move,

(32:04):
just move.
Like don't think about it, justdo it move.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
We're muted.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, we're going in and out first.
As soon as happened our, forsome reason we love, we, our
connection was kind of Unstablefor a minute I don't know if
it's on our end.
I'm wondering.
If so, like I was gonna takethis next Uh to talk to you
about uh streaming a little bit.
I'm wondering if that's whatour kid had warned her if you
hopped in his room and startedstreaming.
No wait, when he does, thatkicks off.
But you started on a twitch man, and tell me a little bit about

(32:46):
how you think that opened youraudience when you kind of
started with twitch.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, that was really cool.
So I, i got lucky.
I started with twitch.
I was just, i was in Kansas andI was trying to think of ways
to promote myself and get mymusic out there and I Found that
there was a music community ontwitch and I did some like
research on it and I was like,oh, i could, i would love to do

(33:13):
this, i would like.
This is You know like I wastalking about.
I was trying to find places toplay music like, do shows and
make money.
I was like, oh, i get it aside,my hours, i'm gonna get aside
when my show is.
So I, i Got into that and theamount of Loyalty and friendship

(33:36):
, like everybody on twitch is sokind, at least in the music
community.
That's what I've dealt with.
But Everybody was like There's,there's things on there called
raids, where at the end of yourstream, whenever you're done,
you're like, okay, everybody,stick around, we're gonna take
my audience and we're all gonnago to this person's stream So
they can get all of my audience.

(33:57):
You guys can meet somebody newand it'll up their viewer count
and Like it's just, it's likesharing a post, basically, or
something similar to that, butit's just taking your audience
and then moving them all toanother person because you're
getting off anyways, and so themjust going.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, so everybody's so nice there and I get messages
constantly.
I haven't streamed for a whileJust because I moved and I'm
trying to figure out a new setup.
I just moved into a new placeand my setup is all here.
It's almost finished but, yeah,i still get messages from those
people and They all stream mymusic all the time and they're

(34:36):
all so incredibly nice.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
It's crazy kind of new twitch was like.
I never knew people were usingit for music.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
I always thought it was strictly gaming so did I,
and even when I went and I wentlike I gotta check this out.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
I've never had a twitch before, but, like when I
was researching for the show, iwent and checked out your old
twitch account and I'm like, oh,this is cool.
I saw like you're playing Callof Duty and everything else.
I was like, alright, well, thisis a good way to connect the
music in the gaming world,because you go on there and game
.
Well, hey, you should watch mytwitch stream tomorrow morning
when I'm having coffee in themorning.
Yeah and it was cool because youused to do them was every
morning for a couple hours.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
You do a stream yeah, it's called coffee chords in
country and I've made this Sodumb.
I try to make it as dumb as Icould, but I made this intro
that everybody fell in love withand The song was so dumb but I

(35:28):
did that.
And then I Realized I was likeyou know, i'm playing video
games anyways with my brother,like odds.
I have this streaming platformand I have these people that
want to watch.
I'll stream it, and So peoplewould watch that, just because,
like I said, i'm a silly idiotlike I make jokes and do dumb
stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
So that kept him entertained, though, man, you're
entertaining, so it reallyhelps the watch factor.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
And then I found out that streamers would play video
games together to try and helpboost their Their you know,
their, their viewer count.
And I did that with a couple ofmusicians one time And I was
like this is great, like this isa way to like, step away From
the music while still promotingpeople like it were still people

(36:16):
or whatever like, if you'reinterested in watching some
dummies Play video games, thatyou listen to their music so you
can learn more about them, youknow, yeah, like it was really
cool.
I love that.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, I love it.
My arc art sons nine.
He streams a fortnight onYouTube.
Right now He's been asking usabout twitch and I'm like all
right, we got to look into itand research it, Would you say
as a kid friendly.
Do our point platform.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
I.
I think there's a way to makeit kid friend.
Yeah, but there's, there's,there's on channels, that's what
it's called.
Whenever you go to somebody'sprofile on channels, they have
moderators, a bunch of them thatare usually watching the chat
and like deleting stuff or Youknow, making sure everything's

(37:03):
PG if that's that streamersthing, it's, it's.
It's kind of all over the place.
You got to know.
It's kind of like YouTubechannels, yeah, like you got.
You got to know who's the goodYouTube channels.
Yeah and who's that YouTubechannels and be like, okay, you
can watch these ones and that'sit, and that's like Streaming is
the same.
like I know this guy's good, iknow this guy's good, i know
this guy's good, like, you canwatch those ones.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
but he met him, a guy We're pretty good about
monitoring Yeah, he met him a 16year old in India.
That is like his him it.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
India play together, Yeah they love awesome but
they're good kids.
They're both good.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
So before we move on, we have a question in the chat
that they want to know whopicked you up from the airport
your first trip to Nashville?

Speaker 2 (37:46):
It was, oh, i bet I know who asked it to.
But I know who asked it It wasClaude Jacob.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
It was Claude he.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
I told him and he I think he was He was in Florida
and he was like I'm renting acar, i'll meet you there.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Oh, that's awesome, Yeah, and yeah, it was great.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
I I couldn't have done that weekend without him.
He he came and got me and hedrove me around and showed me
places, because he's he goesthere all the time, and he
rented a room for us to stay inbecause, like I didn't have any
money for any of that, i mightmy aunt Carrie.
I love her to death.
She paid for the plane ticketand Claude showed up and

(38:35):
Basically hosted me.
So yeah, i.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Yeah, i love that.
Your support system soundsphenomenal.
Yeah, i just gotta tell you Ijust be talking about all the
things your dad is telling youyou got to go and play to
Driving from Florida to pick youup from the airport.
All that man Just, i loveseeing that because, honestly,
with a sports he's somethinglike that You just you can't,
you can't lose man, you'realways, are gonna be a winner.
In the elder I saw it's badassdude, i love that.

(39:00):
So tell me a little bit beforewe wrap up.
I know we're running a littleover, but your first out
full-length album outlaw We.
I know we talked a little bitabout it, but do you produce
that?
you need to put all theinstruments on this.
Tell me about this, becausethat is just insane for anybody
to do that these days.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
So it was a.
It was during.
COVID, and you know I couldn'tplay shows.
I was trying to figure out waysto make money and I Decided I
was like I'm gonna put out analbum in 15 days.
So I wrote 10 songs andproduced 10 songs in that 15
days and I, you know youcouldn't reach out or you

(39:40):
couldn't go to a studio I atleast I didn't know how to,
because I was back in Kansas butI just I Learned how to produce
it myself, played all theinstruments on it, wrote the
songs, did it all in 10 days.
And then I was like you knowwhat, it doesn't matter if I
love it or hate it like this issomething I created and I got.

(40:00):
Um, i gotta put something outbecause I don't have anything.
So I just I put it out andeverybody, everybody that was
following me, loved it.
I have people still reaching meabout songs on there that they
love.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah that's gotta be like a world record.
Well, it's kind of you're doingyour own, like Eric church.
I locked himself away and dolike 30 songs in 30 days or
something like that.
It's not like you.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
That's something I mean.
That's something to be proud of.
The fact that you just did that.
That's incredible.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Thank you, i'm so proud of it and yeah, and like
I've grown, especially musicallyand with production and stuff,
and obviously I find flaws in it, but it's almost the thing that
makes it charming is, yeah, youknow how new I was to
everything.
I was just like I gotta dosomething.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
so So what does the rest of your year look like, man
?
Are you working on any newmusic to kind of get out there
for us?
Any shows come up that you want, you can, you're excited about.
But what is the rest of?
we're halfway done with italready, man.
It's gone quick, but the restof 2023, man.
What does it look like for you?

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yeah, this this year has been insane man I've been.
I'd like I said stop after NewJersey.
I've been traveling so much Andthat's been great.
I love that and I love goingout and playing my music for new
people.
I mean I do that all the timeon Broadway but it's different
because you can't really playyour music that often.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
That's struggle for you, man, we're, when you're
playing gigs where you can'tplay your own music.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
And not really if ever, but, like I like to make
sure everybody has a good timeAnd I'll play.
You know I love to play songspeople in here and I love to
play my favorite songs.
We do a lot of like 90s country, 80s country me and my band and
we.
Our thing is like we try andplay it as close to the record
as we can and We're always likeDoing stuff to like impress each

(41:50):
other.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
So I Get enough times where people were like hey, you
play one of your songs Yeahcool.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
I'm gonna do that So that's why I love having you,
like I know we talked a littlebit about having other writers
around here coming up And July9th, so that's why I love seeing
you in the writers aroundaspect to hear in your music
because, honestly, we talkedabout your lyrics.
But, yeah, go ahead and finishup with what you else you got
going on in 2023.
Oh that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
I have a show coming up, july 14th, i believe, with
Hunter of all people.
We're playing the GrandviewAmphitheater in Grandview,
missouri.
Together.
We're like co-headline that, andThat's the pretty much the only
thing I can think of withoutlooking at my calendar but, yeah
, i just have a lot of stuffpopping up, especially recently,

(42:35):
like, like, like this, andwriters rounds are happening a
lot more than they have in thelast You know two years that
I've been here.
I'm traveling so much.
All these people reach out togo play, so I'm excited just to
see where it goes, because it'sall happening as I'm going, you
know, as I'm going through it.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yeah, i love that.
Just watch you, girl.
Like I said, it's exciting.
The last two years I think it'sbeen about two years since we
first met, year first cameacross your music and just to
see The last, the growth overthe last two years you being a
Nashville now and everythingelse has just been phenomenal
Man, i cannot wait to see.
Thank you, what else you haveup your sleeve the rest of year,
next year and whatnot.
So it's me phenomenal dude.

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We pulled a couple cardsearlier.
I got got Degard cards here.
They're always fun.
They're I don't want to say I,you.
Last week I called them cardsagainst humanity.
I heard our gas go.
It's kind of like that, but thecar, the questions are a little
bit more sincere.
I would say but do you like toplan things out in detail or do

(44:03):
you like to be more spontaneous?

Speaker 2 (44:06):
I Don't, i don't know .
I'm such a mystery even tomyself.
I like I would probably saycontrolled chaos, where it's
like like, like, what time isthe chaos starting?
Like, hey, yeah, we're wingingit, but what time are we winging
it?
Yeah, like that's like me.
Yeah, like like I love, i love.

(44:27):
I love going into a situationnot knowing what I'm doing, or
like just traveling somewhereand being like, well, what are
we going to do?
Let's find out.
I love that, like the adventureof that.
But I'm also very like if we're, if I'm playing a show at eight
, i got to like be ready by sixand out the door, so on there an
hour and a half early to makesure like everything set up and
there's going to be no hiccups.

(44:48):
Like so I'm both, i would say,which doesn't make any sense at
all.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
But no, i do.
I have ADHD real bad, and I gotto say I'm both here because I
love the insipidness at times,but I have a to-do list for the
next two weeks laid out on anotebook, in front of me all the
time By line item Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
The thing is, if you, if you don't write those down,
because like ADHD, brain it'slike it'll be in and then out
your brain.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
I never did that Dang it.
It's kind of like this I putnotes in my phone too, like if I
remember something, like Oh, iremember for Christmas last year
, i'm like I need a Alexa forthe shower because I have an
idea.
I'm like I just got to say,alexa, put this down on a
notepad or something, but I lovethat.
So I was going to ask you to doa show, but I figured this
would kind of fall in the samecategory.
But if you could go back intime and give your nine year old

(45:34):
self one piece of advice, whatwould it be?
But it's the same thing, kindof like what's something you
wish you knew before you startedcreating music, cause you got
your first guitar what?
nine, 10 years old.
So if you could go back tomaybe a year before you got that
first guitar, man, and tellyourself something, what would
it?
what would you tell yourself?

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Uh, i would just tell you, i would tell myself you
can do it.
Like you get, like people gettold that all the time.
Like you know, if you put yourmind to it you can do it.
But but no, like you hear, youhear that so much, i think as a
kid, that it's just like okay,i've heard that before.
I don't know what that means.
Like you, you don't really knowwhat that means until You know

(46:11):
you're old enough to know betteror you're old enough to find
out And what.
Sometimes, when you're oldenough to find out, it's too
late, or you feel like it's toolate And I I just like I said I
never really knew I could getpaid to play music that I love,
even my own music, like I'dnever thought that was a thing

(46:33):
And so I didn't believe I could.
So I would go back and tellmyself you can like trust me,
i'm from the future.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Yeah, that's always like I always think about, like,
if I go back to my, my 14 yearold bedroom and tell myself
something like a year before myfirst concert, like this hey,
this is the path you, life,you're going to choose, Do this.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
Yeah, fuck it, just do it.
Yeah, start early.
Yeah, start early.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
I mean, this is, i mean you got to start early to
do it which you have, man, whichhas been a phenomenal watch.
Like I said, watch everything.
So this next section of thenight is kind of fun, man.
So I picked five songs thatit's kind of when I was
researching, to show thisresearch and show this kind of
pop out, or four songs.
Sorry, i said five seconds.
four songs, five seconds ofeach song.
Cool, first time you hear thesong.
This a melody or a memory youhave with this melody.

(47:18):
We're going to talk about it.
Hit the yellow one first.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
So, you hear any Johnny?

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Cash or walk the line , man.
Where does that take you whenyou hear that song?

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Man, that's.
That's all the music I played.
I was the.
I was the Johnny Cash guy onstage, um, cause that my grandpa
thought he was rock and rolltoo, but uh, i.
It takes me back to 13 manplaying.
Um, you know, i I did that song.
I would do a Jackson with, uh,my brother's now wife, but back

(47:56):
then she was just our neighborand family friend, like, uh, she
would come play music with usand her and I would get up and
sing that song, sing Jacksontogether.
That's cool.
Um, we, i learned all the, allthe Johnny Cash songs, so I
always like boy names too.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
That was my favorite.
Yeah, everybody loves.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
I do, i do.
I've been everywhere, yup,without the without a phone or
anything.
I learned it like back when Iwas 13.
And so everybody's always likedo the one where you say stuff
really fast.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
I would say that one part is stuck with you too.
Yeah, that's how.
uh, what was that?
one, one piece at a time.
That was another one where he'slike a 64 or whatever.
That one's crazy.
That's a fun one.
All right, you're going to likethis one.
I saw a cover of you doing thissong on YouTube.
uh, green, i had to throw somechurch in there.

(48:48):
dude, drink a little drink,smoke a little smoke.
man.
When you hear that song, wheredoes that take you?

Speaker 2 (48:53):
It takes me back to, um, take me back to high school.
Uh, i think the first, maybe itwas middle school.
It was either high school ormiddle school.
But I think the first Ericchurch song I heard was spring
steam And I was like I love that, this is country, but it sounds
indie.
So that just dove straight intothat album and like all of his

(49:18):
music that I could find And Iwas like I love this guy.
But I remember sitting on acouch with my friend, uh from my
hometown, uh, michael, we wereboth sitting there and spring
steam came on.
We're like this song is great.
So then we played it on repeatand by five, you know five
listens in a row.
We were screaming the, thechorus, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
That's kind of how I met Hunter too.
Everything behind us and if yousee, you can see on the camera
or not is Eric church stuff.
This is Gibson hummingbirdsthing behind my shoulder, but
like I went to a writer's roundand Hunter, i think, was wearing
an Eric church shirt And Iwalked up to him after I was
like, dude, you church fan goes,i'm a church choir member, dude
.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
We just sat there and talked forever.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
It was definitely hardcore, so it was really cool,
but I love that man becauseit's cool to see how many singer
songwriters these days Ericchurch has influenced you, cause
I feel like he's changed,changed the game and pay the
path for a singer songwritertoday that they're really just
starting to do their own musicagain, which I love.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Yeah, I told somebody this the other day.
The thing that I love aboutEric church is, like you know,
he's country to the bone butlike he'll do a.
He'll do a song like springscene That sounds like an indie
track, And then he'll do a songAnd the perfect I think the
perfect song for me to describeEric church, at least in my mind

(50:38):
, is cold one.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Because it's just so wacky and out there and then
like jumps into like a real fastthing, and it goes back to
being wacky with horns andsaxophones And it's like what is
this?

Speaker 4 (50:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
I love this, but I don't know what it is Like.
But it's still country Likeit's undeniably country, And
that's the thing I love aboutEric church is like you never
know what you're going to getAnd, but you know it's going to
be country.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
I heard you changed it all up again for this tour
that he's getting ready to kickoff this week.
I heard he's doing likedrinking my hand with like horns
and all this other stuff Springscenes, acoustic solo thing.
I'm like dude, this may be kindof cool, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Exactly.
You never know what you'regoing to get, so all right man.
This is another one you'll likethat yellow one.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Throw it back to that CD that was sucking that
changer over and over again.
So we hear I'm no stranger tothe rain man.
Where does that take you, KeithWhitley?

Speaker 2 (51:31):
It takes me to either sitting on my floor of my
sitting, on the floor of myliving room, with just that, you
know, that album played thatgreatest hits album that we had
second they're playing.
Or you know, if we weren'tplaying music, sitting around
the table for dinner and stuff,if we weren't playing music, we
had a channel on the TV behindus playing like a classic

(51:56):
country.
It's a classic country TVchannel station And the rule was
nobody could look at it.
But as soon as it came up, thefirst person to say who it was
and what the name of the songwas got it right.
And you know, if you got itwrong, you got ridiculed.
It was.
It was mainly between my dadand my grandpa.
They would sit there and belike, oh, that's old Keith

(52:16):
Whitley, Yep, They would, theywould be doing that.
So that takes me, that takes methere.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
I love that man.
All right, the last one, thegreen one.
I had to put this one in there.
So grandpa has never died.
Riley Green man, when you hearthat song, where does that take
you?
to the first time you've everheard that song, or just when
you hear that?

Speaker 2 (52:35):
I was.
I was in the thick of my musiccareer of love.
Sorry, i was on the thick ofstarting my music career,
because I think I put that outon.
I think I put that out on onYouTube.
I didn't cover that, but I yeahit takes, it takes me back to
that And I feel like that thatsong coming out at the time it

(52:57):
did whenever I was jumping rightback into country music and
being like I can do this.
I think that's that's verycoincidental, right, but it's it
takes me there.
It takes it takes me right backto whenever I was first
starting and like trying tofigure out how, how I was going
to do it, but I was going to doit my way and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
But yeah, love that man.
All right, man, we're going toput you on the hot seat real
quick.
I saw a question earlier.
Where was there at the roll up,jc put on there?
So we're going to kick the hotseat off of that.
But the first CD vinyl you everpurchased with your own money,
what was it?

Speaker 2 (53:35):
The first CD I ever got was Creed.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
It was the, the clay, the one with the clay guy on
Human clay.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
yeah, yeah, definitely All right.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Got that one and a Walkman at the same time And
then I think the first one Ibought right after that bowling
for soup, nice, all right.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
I love the range there.
That's cool.
Yeah, what's your happy place,man?
If you're kind of just want tochill for a little bit and just
kind of detune somewhere, whereare you going?

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Video games I I love.
To one I loved it like justlaunch myself into something,
like if it's cooking orsomething like that, but video
games I it's.
One is the only way I get tohang out with my brother, really
Like that's, that's, that's athing we get to do together
because we're, you know, ontotally different places in the

(54:25):
country, and like that's thetime that we get to hang out and
talk and be dumb and, you know,work, work towards a goal
together and stuff like that.
So I think I would say videogames you know, if I'm, if I'm
trying to escape.
I don't think about anythingelse, i just I'm having a good
time and you know I just haven'tfun with my brother.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
I love that We have, i figure, our boy is six year
old and nine year old.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
I hope they're.
They fit the same way, man,because I love this hearing that
.
So who has the best pizzayou've ever had?
dude.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
I would say there's a place in New Jersey They told
me all about New Jersey pizzaand there was a place in New
Jersey on the boardwalk in awildwood I'm trying to remember
all of the names, um, but therewas a place called a hotspot and
maybe, maybe it was because Iwas drunk, just maybe Yeah.

(55:25):
I mean my buddy that I went downthere with.
We ordered this giant pizza andwe ate all of it, except for
like a slice or two maybe, butit was huge, but it was so good
It was like I don't know howthey did it.
It was a little bit floppy, butthe crust was like had a crunch
with every bite.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
It was amazing, oh man, i love that We're going to.
I keep saying we're going tomake a list of this one day all
these pizza places.
We're going to have to hit uplike call it the Melody's
Memories Pizza Tour.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
Yeah, i love that.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
So what's the wallpaper on your phone?

Speaker 2 (55:57):
It's a painting from a guy.
His name is Mark Majore.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
He paints Wild West.
He lives in Talos, Texas, Ithink, or maybe it's New.
Mexico.
I don't know something downthere, but he goes out and he
does these photo shoots withthese real cowboys or Native
Americans that were in the areaand he does historically

(56:29):
accurate clothing and thelandscapes that he paints, like
the clouds are I don't even knowhow to explain how the clouds
look, but they're incredible andlike the foliage all around
these, like cowboys that arepainted in detail riding a horse
and like its muscles as it'smoving from one like terrain to

(56:49):
another terrain.
It's incredible.
That sounds awesome.
I'm going to check that out.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
What's a movie that can always make you laugh?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Grandma's Boy, dude I in high school I was like I'm
going to be, like I'm going tobe, like I'm going to be like,
oh man, i wasn't a good student.
But in high school I just gotlike one of those iPod touches
and found out you could uploadmovies.
I uploaded Grandma's Boy andevery day, instead of doing my

(57:21):
homework, i watched Grandma'sBoy for the class, and then I
can quote that movie front toback and I still will watch it.
I love it.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
I love that movie man .
Such a fun movie.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
And it's so silly that it's that movie, the one
movie that doesn't have AdamStamler in it.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Yeah, right, but he was a producer or it wasn't a
part of it in some way.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
It's the same crew but like Adam's not in it and
it's one of the main characteris a guy.
That's not usually one of themain characters.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
He's usually like a side character.
I love it.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
I like the drug dealer in that movie.
He gets a tiger.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
He has all the different stuff.
His name is Dante and he livesin Key West Florida.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Dude, I heard he just started like his own reggae
band too someone was talkingabout, We were just talking
about.
he does music and stuff too.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
He has like a writers round for the festival.
It's Dante's Pool Party.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Okay, i gotta check that out because someone's just
us to have him on the showsometime.
I gotta look at this guy andbring him on sometime.
That'd be badass.
What was your first job, yourfirst paying gig that you ever
had?
What was it?
What were you doing?

Speaker 2 (58:28):
I was.
I believe I was either walkingaround and putting door hangers
on doors for a riffing companyor I was on a shingling crew.
All right, two thanks.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Yeah, you always were working pretty hard.
Then, man, you had your ownconstruction company.
This is pretty nice, yeah, whatwas the oldest thing you own in
your home?
What's the oldest thing youhave?
Just look at that dB.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Um, it's probably a guitar.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Um, goodness, okay, It is a guitar.
I have a.
I think it's a 19, 79 or 1980.
It's a Stratocaster that myuncle found in a dumpster in a

(59:24):
hard case and he took it out andshowed it to my dad and my dad
was like I'll buy that.
I think I was maybe 11 or 12whenever I got that guitar.
But, um, he was like I'll buythat from like name a price.
I'll buy it from you.
And then he bought it from himand that was my first like real
electric guitar And I still haveit.

(59:46):
I've like changed out parts onit and it's my favorite guitar
One of my favorite guitars Ihave, for sure but I've changed
parts out on it, i've likecustomized it, but I also left,
um, i'll just show you here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
I always like this question, but we always we get
guitar because, honestly thoseguitars are.
I love hearing stories aboutolder guitars, man, because they
hold out so many memories.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
But, like, i played this all the time.
There's a.
There's a picture of mewhenever I was 11, i think me
with my grandpa, um, in thenewspaper and I was playing this
guitar, um, but yeah, i like Isanded it and I figured I was
going to do something with itAnd I was like you know what I
like the natural wood.
But I kept, i made sure to keeplike the band of the original

(01:00:32):
color, so it had like a piece ofthat, and then I branded this
is my grandpa's brand.
It was cool Yeah, i had his ownboots and um, cattle and
everything.
So I put his brand on myguitars.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
So that's cool, Dude.
he had his own brand like that.
It was on his boots.
That's cool And cattle dude,That's I gotta say.
Your grandfather was probably abadass.
Yeah, He was he was.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
He was sheriff of my hometown for 20 years and
there's just like there wasphotos of him in his house, just
like in his sheriff outfit,like on a horse and like yeah,
you had your own chief too, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Yeah, that's why we connected.
Man, i love that whole uh, eric, church vibe I get from you.
I love that though.
All right, man, what chore doyou not like doing around the
house?

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Um, I don't know.
I'm pretty good with chores.
Uh, folding laundry Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
That's like they're running, That's like the leading
answer, I think for most ofthat's mine, that's mine.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
I wash the dams, the things, i just want to fold them
.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Yeah, I think that's.
I think that's just a strugglefor everybody, because we all
have that like pile of clothes.
It's clean, but it's on thefloor and you're like I just
want to get rid of this, but Idon't want to do the work.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Right, i love that.
What was your favoritechildhood television show to
watch?

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Um, let's see Drake and Josh.
Oh, okay, I love Drake and Josh.
For some reason I was big into,uh, Danny Phantom.
All right It was like a, like acartoon show about a kid that
had supernatural powers, wherehe turned into a ghost.
Oh, i like that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
I remember that show Man they check that out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Kids might like that.
Yeah, I was like what, saluteyour shorts and stuff on
Nickelodeon.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
Sabrina Yeah right, that's the whole thing, oh boy
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Well, our last one, man, before we get you to maybe
play one for us before we letyou go for the night.
Uh, dude, what's something onyour bucket list?
Maybe a venue that you won'tplay, or maybe have a top 10, or
something you want to writewith, or what's something that
you want to accomplish, man,before you say it's been a day.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Um, i don't know, man , i'm doing it, i, i, i, like I
said when I, whenever I had that, i want to call it a wake up
call but, like I, i realized howmiserable I was doing work that
I decided was something I hadto do instead of something I
loved.
I didn't like doing it, andthen every day I was like, man,

(01:03:02):
is this what the rest of my lifeis going to be like?
And then that accident happened.
I got it back into music andevery ever since I moved back to
Kansas city and got that firstgig and started trying to figure
out how to make this work.
That's been all I could ask for.
Like I, i, i get to do this fora living and I write songs that

(01:03:24):
people listen to and also love,and I don't think there's
anything that beats that for me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Oh, okay, how many gigs a week do you think you're
playing right now?

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Um, I used to do like four to five, four, sometimes
three, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
And you keep grinding , good things are going to
happen.
Like I said, between your voice, your music, everything your
songwriting, everything togetherYou're you're one hell of a
package put together.
Thank you so much, and we arewe look forward to just watching
you grow and seeing where youtake this whole thing, man,
because, like I said, it's beenamazing ride the last couple of
years.
There we are, you're back.
Yeah, now.

(01:04:02):
Now we know last week was aflip, we had a guest.
Last week We're telling a ghoststory and all of our cameras
went out Really And we're like Itold you it was haunted, but
tonight days went out again buthe came back to rock quicker.
Well, buddy, before we let yougo I know we we ran over a lot
of time Can we get you to playone for us?
And the only thing we have tojust kind of tell us a little
story about it.

(01:04:23):
Yeah, Um I'll give you the stagereal quick.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
I saw you um, i saw you listen to this one and said
you liked it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
This is one that I like to do because usually,
whenever, whenever I, um, i takea, i let the uh, the musicians
take a break, whenever I'mplaying downtown, um, i do this
song and I preface it kind ofthe same way.
I'll preface it here in asecond, but usually this one I
can see, it connects with peopleand like there's sometimes

(01:04:56):
there's like old man crying oryou know somebody uh like teary
eyed, and people always come upand talk to me about it
afterwards.
But it's, it's my, it's a songthat I've written that I feel
like resonates with people a lot.
So, yeah, i like this one.
Um, it's a song I wrote, uh formy mom, right whenever I was

(01:05:21):
moving in Nashville two yearsago Now, coming up on two years
She started having some healthissues.
Um, we have some problems in myfamily and, uh, she, uh, she was
having some problems and Ididn't think it was the right
time.
But, um, you know she, shebelieved in me and I had a bunch

(01:05:46):
of people believe in me And soI moved out to Nashville and I
wrote this song for her becauseI want to let her know that, um,
you know, my hometown is 986miles away from Nashville.
So it's almost a thousand.
But even though I moved outhere, um, i was bringing her
with me.
So yeah, i wrote this one formy mom on this guitar.

(01:06:11):
That's a little outtuned.
But, mama, i know that I'vebeen gone for what seems like
far to home.

(01:06:31):
I've been out in every old townOnce at the one called home.
I'll make you worried, make youcry, make you full of sleepless
pants, keep you wondering if.
I'm all right on my own, Mama.

(01:06:52):
I feel your prayers.
They keep me moving on, butI'll be fine and I'll be strong.
I'll make them all sing alongand I'll keep you with me every
mile on this ride.
We'll see the lights, we'll seethe stars.

(01:07:15):
every year and every far And upon stage, I feel you right
there by my side.
Your lyric, every chord andevery song.
Just cheering me on, my buddysaid we'll miss you, man.

(01:07:48):
Will we ever see you again?
Remember me when you make itbig someday, man, how could I
forget?
all the times that we spentmaking memories, our whole coast

(01:08:08):
on my days.
And I'll just smile and sayyou'll be fine and you'll be
strong.
I'll make them all sing alongand I'll keep you with me every
mile on this ride.
I want you to know and I seemfar with every beer and every

(01:08:34):
bar And up on stage, i feel youright there by my side.
Every lyric, every chord andevery song just cheering me on.
My granddaddy always said keepyour side straight ahead.

(01:09:07):
You got country music deepwithin your soul.

Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
I'm in the crowds.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Don't try to find me, cause you won't, but I'll sing
along with every song that youwrote.
So I'll be fine and I'll bestrong.
I'll make them all sing alongand I keep you with me every

(01:09:38):
mile on this ride.
We'll see the lights, we'll seethe soars, every year and every
part, and up on the stage, ifeel you right there by my side.
Every lyric every chord andevery song I'll see you soon.

(01:10:03):
till then, you'll be watchingme while I'm gone.
Just cheering me on.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
I love that one.
I love that it's your mommybecause, honestly, my mom's my
biggest fan.
She's always has been, alwayswill be.
I'm my only child, so I can saythat, dude.
That's why I love YouTube.
I was researching the show onKim Cross, that song I was like
holy shit.
I don't know I've never heardthat one yet, because I don't
know if you've played it at awriter's round where I was at or
anything, but the first time Iheard it I was on YouTube.

(01:10:52):
I was just like holy shit, iwas blown away, dude.
So thank you for playing thatsong tonight, because that was
the one I was hoping you were.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
I love it.
Dude, we are so excited to haveyou on July 9th on the writer's
round.
Just super excited for thatround.
We're still putting it together, hopefully have the
announcement of the lineup herein our week or so.
But the guy our guest tomorrownight's coming on at Brian
Simpson also singer, songwriterin Nashville.
So now we're excited for it.
But, dude, tonight has beenamazing, just to sit down and
talk to you, hear your journey alittle bit.

(01:11:23):
Like I said, we've been friendsfor a couple of years just
haven't had this chance to kindof catch up like this And I'm
glad we waited.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Jillian and Aaron.
Thank you guys so much forhaving me on.
I was so excited, remember, youguys asked me to be on this.
I watched the episode that youdid with Hunter live and I was
like man, this is so cool Andyou guys put so much effort into
it and it really shows And it's, i think.
I think what you guys have isgreat.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
We love what you guys are doing.
man, Honestly, if we give youguys a little bit of a platform,
just kind of get the name outthere and let people just hear
you.
Man, we'll put a review outthere for you and help push as
much as we can.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Thank you, guys All right, buddy, we'll see you in
national couple weeks.
Man And you be good dude Andthank you so much for spending
some time with us tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Yeah, thank you guys.
so much again.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
All right, buddy, we'll talk to you.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
Take care, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
I was here.
I didn't want to let them gofor a second.

Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
There we go.
I was like I don't know whathappened.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
We just try to like.
All right, we're just kind oflike good night, Have a good one
, but man y'all thank you somuch tonight for tuning in, And
then they're reputting.

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
It was a great show.
We had a blast dude.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
I've been waiting.
We kind of talked about it abunch of times but a couple of
years ago a hundred times Milesand then just the Kyle, and I've
wanted to have him on the showthe last couple of seasons.
But I'm like let's just waitand see what he's doing Yeah.
Let him get his feet wet innational for a couple of years
And, honestly, we'll probablyhave him back on it soon, Oh for
sure.
Down the road, because he'sgoing to have even more to do
his journey, even more to astory to add to it.

(01:12:58):
Because he's so, so young inthis industry.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
Yeah, he's incredible , absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Can I wait, Can I wait, Can I wait?
So where's our?
we always throw back to ourpodcast questions and we like to
do that before you wrap up.
Where's our good one saying allright, here we go.
We kind of talked about mine,but do you like to plan things
out in detail or be spontaneous?

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
I mean, we kind of talked about that.
I like to, i like to plan, ilike to be spontaneous.
but I like to be spontaneouswith the plan.
I'm like Kyle.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
I can say that's me too.

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
I don't know, sometimes I just like whatever
roll with it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
You know, hey, you can't be, you can't plan
everything.
Yeah, you're a conundrum though.

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
There are days where you're like, nope, we cannot go
off script, And then there'sdays where you're like way off
script And I'm it's confusing.
You're not really sure whichAaron you're going to get that
day.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Call ADHD or bipolar.
See Jackson's doing something Ikeep.
I've been keeping hearing these.
I don't think he's streaming,but he's playing online.
He's playing his games.
He's going crazy up there.
I know it, I love it.
But yeah, so we kind of, beforewe wrap up, we, we had a busy
weekend, a busy week.
Yesterday It was Father's Day,Got the go to Six Flags, Great
America, And then the kids hadso much fun They want to go back

(01:14:05):
today for a couple hours andvery much.
I was like Kyle.
He got off a plane and ran homefor the thing.
I literally got off a rollercoaster and ran here real quick.
Make sure we got, we had enoughtime to get home, But I love it
.
But Saturday night we got to goand be a fan for once at a show
a show for a while.
We've been covering concertsfor the last couple of years now
and we really haven't gone toactually enjoy one and we got to

(01:14:28):
do that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
Well, that means we enjoy the shows we go to.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
I say that one, so we're working.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
I'm running on the camera.
You're taking notes for areview.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
We're doing things, This one we got to put our
phones away kind of do our thing.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
So who?

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
do we go see again?

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
My favorite, matchbox 20.
We saw Matchbox.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
So we bought these tickets like three years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
I think it was January 14, 2020.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
We bought these tickets and then COVID happened.
They kept pushing back, keptpushing back And finally, after
three years, they even talkedabout it a couple years, a
couple times, but they, theyfinally played the show and it's
awesome.
It was amazing.
I was kind of glad they theypushed it back because we got a
whole brand new album out ofthem, so I think that was pretty
cool.
They still saying all the hitsthat I can remember through a

(01:15:13):
couple of rare ones in there andI loved Like you don't get back
to good all the time and theythrew that in there.
That was pretty cool, yeah, sono, it was.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
It was a fantastic show.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
One of these days they're going to have they're
going to have like every 30 yearanniversary of the yourself and
someone like you album.
They're going to play the wholething front to back.
I'm sure we're going to have togo to that one, so I've got one
.
That's the album they goteverybody.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
It was so good, it was good.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
I almost wish I don't know.
I don't know We saw themtogether, but I saw them once
and for the whole tour they'redoing three AM acoustic piano,
just Rob Thomas and piano.
I wish I would go back and dothat because that was really
cool.
Yeah, i haven't seen them dothree AM acoustic like that for
a long time.
But yeah, man, hi, i wasreading Jason, jason, you know

(01:15:59):
you're going, but I agree withthat for sure, dude.
But hey, thank you guys allonce again for tuning in all the
comments tonight, everything Wereally appreciate.
We are live every Monday nightand doing these shows.
We are trying to wrap up thisseason, so we are doubling up.
Tomorrow night We'll be havinganother show with an outside
guest here in a minute And thennext week we have another couple
of shows.
We might have a special guestcoming on to end out.

(01:16:21):
We'll see what happens.
I'm still trying to work out adate.
Judy, i saw a matchbox 21fastball opened up for him And
that was like 99.
I got.

Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
I would love to see that one with train.
I would have been good too.
Yeah, i remember his matchbox20 fastball and I forgot.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
I won't say Goo Goo Dolls, but for who else is there
?
I don't know, but it was insaneBut yeah, so we'll be back
tomorrow night with anothersinger, songwriter, amazing one.
All this is going to wrap upWhat's?

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
up, buddy, i love you ?

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
I don't know.
There's another podcast outthere too.
Hunter has a really good onetoo.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
He does, he does.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
But hey, man, once again we were talking earlier.
thank you for introducing us toKyle, because it wasn't for you
, We never probably came acrossKyle's name.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
We love it And I love the story.
We love the story.
Your meeting Definitely had anupgrade with the bushlight shirt
.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
So that was pretty cool, but I love it.
But yeah, we will be back inNashville July 9th for another
amazing songwriter's round.
Kyle Austin's going to be there.
Tomorrow night's guest, brianSimpson's going to be another
one on the lineup.
We're still putting togethersome other names and we'll get
that out there.
But guys, like I said, as wecome to the end of another

(01:17:29):
amazing show, we reminded onceagain of the transformative
power of music and incrediblestories that can never read.
These notes and memories thatoften come to be it.
Today's, our tonight'sinterview with Kyle Austin, was
an absolute privilege and honorand we were incredibly grateful
for the gift of his music.
From his down home lyrics, hisauthentic sound.
Kyle has proven himself time andagain to be a force, or to be a

(01:17:50):
force to be reckoned with, inthe world of country music.
We have no doubt that he willcontinue to leave his mark on
the industry for years to come.
We know that the future isbright for Kyle and the
countless others who make theworld of music such as a vibrant
, magical place.
We can't wait to see whatincredible accomplishments, a
lot of head form, and thank youfor joining us tonight and we
hope you enjoy this episode asmuch as we did.
Don't forget to catch up oneverything you missed from

(01:18:10):
tonight and past episodes atMelodiesMemoriescom.
Like I said, tomorrow nightwe're going to be here with
another show, so you get back toback shows this week.
We can't wait.
We'll see you all then.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
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As we close the book on anotherchapter, remember music gives a
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